Third US drone strike in three days kills 15 in Pakistan
Yes, it seems like Obama likes his new TOY!

You know at some point this is to be considered TERRORISUM.....

Yep! Wonder how long before Iran uses OUR drone on US?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/world/middleeast/iran-shows-us-drone-on-tv-and-lodges-a-protest.html

Probably never, since it doesn't look like what is alleged to be our RQ-170 was armed.

Iran has their own UAV program; primitive but capable of ISR

Over a year ago there was on average one strike every 45 minutes by a General Atomics MQ-1 Predator or MQ-9 Reaper aerial assault vehicle firing Lockheed Martin AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-surface missiles at our enemies, and I think the pace has accelerated dramatically since then, so the idea that there has been only one US drone attack every three days is a bunch of nonsense . . .

I would not be surprised to learn that at present there is a US drone attack on our enemies every 15 minutes . . .

The fact of the matter is that as Commander-in-Chief, President Obama makes the difficult high-level decisions, and President Obama made the successful "Get 'er done!" decision that led directly to removing Osama bin Laden from the known universe for the betterment and enlightenment of others . . .

[NOTE: Technically, Osama bin Laden was not removed from the known universe, per se, since his corpse currently is at the Smithsonian Institute being plasticized using the techniques made popular by German artist Dr. Gunther Von Hagens, where when the plasticizing work is finished Osama bin Laden's plasticized corpse will be on display along side the plasticized corpses of Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun in the ultra secret war trophy room deep below the Pentagon, but so what . . . ]

President Obama is doing what the most skilled Commanders-in-Chief throughout the history of our great nation have done, which specifically is making the difficult high-level decisions and then getting out of the way so that the military and covert operations specialists can prosecute the war successfully . . .

It is an excellent strategy, and it works, really . . .

Really! :-)

I say they can kiss our butts. They made sure Osama Bin Laden was well hidden, and lived like a King. They hid our worst enemies, and now they're crying because instead of sending our soldiers in to die, we sit where it's safe raining down explosive death on them. As long as they continue to help our enemies, they are our enemies. You don't treat the ones who attacked us like ROYALTY!

If Pakistan would cooperate in doing the job themselves, there would be no conflict.

Obama's Kill List is expanding- 3 consecutive days of drone missile attacks in South and North Waziristan. Of note- the news agency releasing the latest US drone attack in North Waziristan-'2 drones targeted a house and as vehicle transporting militants in Mir Ali region pulverizing both' was issued by Xinhua news agency. Is US/Obama aware of the side effects of drone attacks on a sovereign nation's autonomous tribal areas without a declaration of war. There are consequences- not Pakistan and China are negotiating a Defense Agreement. Look before you leap is an old saying.

Why dont we just say it, we are at War with Pakistan..

so how long do you guys think it will be before we have killed the last terrorist?

These days the terrorists now are living in there own country you hear of shootings all the time in different countries, their own people popping out of no where shooting or bombing, happens everyday malls restaurants,bars on the street it will never be gone. Happens in Canada , USA too not really safe to go anywhere they tell a good story on crime rates going down like to know where.

And the liberals used to call reagan "ronnie rayguns"...maybe we should call this potus "barry the bomber"

Obama's Kill List is expanding-

Power is addicting...and can be blinding....at the same time.....

Over a year ago there was on average one strike every 45 minutes by a General Atomics MQ-1 Predator or MQ-9

That strikes me as improbable, at least over any sustained period. We simply don't have that many active CAPs and targets to make that viable. Do you have a source, out of curiosity?

I am happy Obama is continuing the drone program that Bush started and these scumbags are dying.

But I still don't trust Obama the because the campaign is more important that his job. He is not a leader, not a manager, he doeswhat he does for the election, he is a pure politician. he criticized Bush's policies of enhance interrogation (read Jose Rodriguez's book)during the campaign, and now freely executes terrorists who may have valuable information. Plus he can't capture them because he has nowhere to put them, because he wants to "close" Gitmo.

I commend Obama for continuing the policies and using the enhanced intelligence system tha tBush created by getting CIA and FBI and Military Intel to work together, but Obama has to stop saying "I did it" narcissism is a bad habit that he possesses.

Give Obama credit where credit is due. He's figured out that if you turn them to dust in their own country, you can (1) kill them, and (2) keep saying (without doing) that they should be tried in U.S. courts. The best of both worlds, as it were.

If killing chickens and smearing their blood on the whitehouse would get him reelected Obama would be on the phone to Tyson's.

Drones are his latest campaign gimmick, just like his claim that he "killed Bin Laden".

It looks like President Obama has become Judge, Jury, and Executioner. Why are these strikes not considered crimes against humanity? Where is the outrage?

Coyotehunter....

good call, I also like my nickname for him I have mentioned in the past. "hair trigger" obama for always wanting to "pass my bill, right away". I imagine that by the time obama is done he will have garnered many more nicknames.

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Svenolafson, because the media and obamas fan club thinks that he can do no wrong.

eric in oregon. - Obama is the politician who ran under the false banner of peace maker. Nobel should be asking for their peace prize back.

eric in oregon.

My only complaint is that these missiles keep missing Pakistani government buildings.

It looks like you and Dick Cheney have at least one thing in common.

Eric in oregon...

Show me the agreement between any sovereign nation and the US that authorizes such actions to take place beyond our borders and within theirs. Do you really think that this policy won't have consequences?

BTW, seems that you are the racist.

Gawd...there you go again, Eric...

No one has said anything derogatory against "lefties" but you couldn't help yourself, eh?

Gutless, ignorant, racist, teabaggers...funny how you treat 60% of the population who don't see the world the way you do...

Please stay in Oregon...we need to confine the likes of you to about 3 states...and I'll bet you know which ones they are, don't you? LOL

Note to President Obama: Leaking classified intelligence information, in an effort to make yourself look "Good" during this campaign, is reckless & puts American service personnel in peril. Besides, there is nothing you can do at this point to make yourself seem competent, much less "Good".

Pakistan must really be PO'd that they keep losing members of their Terrorist Intelligence agencies to US drones!

Keep bombing.

And WAAAAAAAAAAAGGHGH CRY CRY about the President. Bush rightfully approved drone strikes. Obama rightfuly approves them. The only people screaming about it are the ones with teething rings stuck in their mouths.

@can'ttakenomore....Hey Oregon is a great state, and would be a LOT better without the likes of Eric!!.

I'm just shocked at the double standard. Actually I'm not. This is typical of immature children.

HEY BALDENARIO , just because you write a bunch of technical crap in your comment , doesnt mean you can spit out bovine manure, I hope (pray) people can see this but it seems like you got people to "like" the crap you are typing. I dont comment often but you made me bravo for being a tabloid type of contributor.

cantakenomore, what makes you think I'm a leftie? My comment that we should be targeting Pakistani government buildings? L.O.L. While I didn't agree with many of Bush's policies he was still OUR president. That's where I have a problem. When the whining, bitching far right lunatics want a civil war between them and everyone who doesn't agree with them in lock step I have a problem. When the Tea party wacko's in Washington feel making sure America fails and it's citizens suffer is worth it to make sure Obama is a one term president I have a problem. That America's citizens suffering is simply collateral damage in the war against "That Black man in Our White House"is treasonous. It's people like yourself and the like minded in congress that are the enemies of our country.

where do you people think that the Pres has the time to authorize every strike you must be thinking your very smart to even type that crap, they have a flight-wing commander that can authorize the strike so even the commander of the forces doesnt have to authorize it , but they all back the strikes as well as I back their decision to run the war they seem fit, they are smarter about what they are doing than me and all of you.

Hey eric in oregon , you have great posts except for a few technical things but you are on a good track, dont let these idiots bother you with their replys

GO U.S.A.!!!

Only 1.4 billion more (total population of india,pakistan and afghanistan) supected militants/terrorrists to go then we can come home.

If you are an "innocent" civilian hiding with these or providing hiding spots for millitants then you are NOT INNOCENT in any way shape or form. President Bush said it and i agree...

YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US!!!! There is no middle ground. I also dont care if i have to violate 1.4 billion "INNOCENT" civillian whateverstan civillians to save just one american puppy,bird,ant or cockroach!

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA

eric in oregon.

Wow. No matter what Obama does it's wrong according to the gutless, racist, ignorant teabaggers.

Subsitute libretard in that sentence and you have the consensus of opinion of the flamer lowlife welfare sucking ignorant followers that parrot someone else but can't think for themselves. The POTUS is the one promoting class warfare and racism, read his books and you see the portrait of a dyed in the wool racist.

what will we do
when we're number two
and our debtor
becomes number one?

when our bill becomes due
and the fleecing is through
will "made in china" drones
make us terrorists on the run?

will we say there's no chivalry
in that kind of military?
or admit that "Do unto others"
has been done unto US?

You know this is a ridiculous war based on fear and propaganda. They are basically killing people, to kill them. If we had no troops over there in the first place, we wouldnt have to be sending drones. We've become the terrorists we fear so much.

Thanks Tommy. The snide remarks about the great state of Oregon and it's people shows I'm in an intellectual argument with the opposing side having no ammunition. Having voted Republican for years until Mr. Bush Jr came on the scene I can tell you I voted for the right longer than most of these fellows have been alive. Of all the presidents I have voted for there was never one that I agreed with 100% of the time, Mr. Obama included. I always have voted for who I felt was the best choice between two choices, period. We used to have compromise, that's how things get done. Starting with those scumbags Gingrich and Rove that started to change. Now it's gridlock , civil war if you will, thanks to the far, far, far right teabagging wacko's. They do not seem to understand the basic principals behind governance, and have unfortunately taken over one of our two major parties, one I can no longer affiliate myself with.

When the NATO forces were entering Kandahar in 2001, Pakis airlifted key al-Qaida, Taliban, ISI and others militants by back door from Kandahar.

This includes Mullah Omar, Osama and many including Haqqani militant network leaders.

Half of NATO forces deaths are due to Paki backstabbings even while acting as an ally.

These drone attacks are not enough.

Do carpet bombings of Paki militant areas and nuke areas or else just get out.

@randomreturn:

You wrote this:

That strikes me as improbable, at least over any sustained period. We simply don't have that many active CAPs and targets to make that viable. Do you have a source, out of curiosity?

There was some excellent data on this in the news early last year (2011), and I used it to make the initial estimate of one US drone attack every 45 minutes, but best wishes on finding the news report quickly, since stuff like this tends to disappear after a few hours, although it is on the web somewhere if you search diligently . . .

Nevertheless, this is a useful clue regarding the level of US drone activity in Pakistan in April 2010:

The drones, operated by the C.I.A., fly overhead sometimes four at a time, emitting a beelike hum virtually 24 hours a day, observing and tracking targets, then unleashing missiles on their quarry, they said.

[SOURCE: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/world/asia/05drones.html?ref=unmannedaerialvehicles ]

And it is useful to understand that the updated estimate I provided is not limited to Pakistan alone, since it is my best current estimate of total US drone activity against our enemies, which includes terrorists in considerably more countries than just Pakistan . . .

This is another bit of useful information:

According to The San Diego Union-Tribune article "Prowling for Profit," the Predator and Reaper generally cost $4 million to $12 million each. The U.S. Defense Appropriations FY2010 key investments included $489 million for 24 new Reaper drones.The upcoming U.S. Defense Appropriations FY2011 includes: $2.2 billion for procurement of Predator-class aircraft to increase the Combat Air Patrols (CAPs) available to deployed forces from 37 to 65 by 2013; and doubling procurement of the MQ-9 Reaper over the next few years.

[SOURCE: http://www.codepinkalert.org/article.php?id=5976 ]

Based on what I can determine from current news reports, there is a lot of US drone activity in Afghanistan and Yemen, and there are significant US drone activities in other places, really . . .

Really! :-)

P. S. Yet another fact is that drones are stellar weapons to use against terrorists!

Thanks

Hello folks, and we wonder why the world hates us. We on a yearly basis wreak havoc and devastation on a different country and in our hubris feel justified killing, displacing and maming millions of people.

Who died and made us the moral authority of the world. We are nothing but the enforcement arm for the Oil, Banking, and Corporate cartels. We are mercenary thugs nothing more and the world's people know it! Get out of line and we will give you American democracy and all its trimmings. If that's ok with you continue your support and suffer the karmic circumstances. We can run from our decisions, but not its consequences.

"Trust Verify"

Yes, I gave up a big traveling job, since I got tired of all the harassment at US airports, because as most you sitting here think we can just sit in a bunker and send off drones around the globe to kill people, and here use them for surveillance. The rest of the world is very tired of it, also when US demands special checks in the worlds airports if they have any US bound planes, just because you all think here we must convert Muslims to Christianity, and then create our own terrorism, even though we have over 10,000 different registered religions just in NY state.

The intellectuals on this globe are tired of it, and some are waiting to see how long it will take before China and India get to tell USA how to behave say 10 years from now, and possibly then can mind our own business.--Never mind if you are Rep or Dem--has nothing to do with it. Please try to see this globe from the moon, and you might finally see the big picture!

LostPoet,

Thank you!! I couldn't have said it better myself!!

We ARE doing unto Pakistan what they have done unto the US.

Oops- sorry, my bad- Pakistan, I mean, Al Qaida targetted innocent civilians in two large non-military towers, killing thousands with 2 airplanes. We are targeting those who directly threaten us and have publicly declared war on the US. I guess that makes us better. Of course, we could save ourselves a TON of time and effort- a few B-52's in the air loaded with MOABs and Thermobaric munitions should do the trick very nicely, whether the militants are hiding in cities or caves. They did declare war, remember, and wars get very messy. We COULD leave their cities in Ruins like the Allies & Nazis did to half of Europe not so long ago. But no- we are only targeting enemy commanders. Obama even nixed a plan to wipeout an entire AQ base- so we aren't even going after enemy soldiers, given them the chance to change their minds about what they're doing. Anyone from the Towers or the 3 aircraft given that chance on 9/11? Didn't think so.

Bundgaard-

"just because you all think here we must convert Muslims to Christianity"

Let me just say I'm against any form of ORGANIZED religion! BUT,I cant seem to find anywhere in the christian faith that says you must convert all muslim's. I can however find where muslims believe they should be the only religion in the world, and millitant muslims cry out DEATH TO ALL INFIDELS!

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!

Mr Oregon - a few things...

You said "Now it's gridlock , civil war if you will, thanks to the far, far, far right teabagging wacko's".

You do realize that by painting millions of Americans with your opinion you are by definition being a bigot?

The right could make exactly the same claims about the far far left, as they bully and assault people in Seattle, within the OWS movement, in Oakland and various other areas of the country.

This is HOW gridlock develops, by each side focusing on the rabid 1% in each party. It is my opinion that this is going to produce a 3rd party of moderates. Neither party is willing to move to the middle. Oh, there are photo-ops for propaganda when needed, but Harry Reid is no more moderate than Boehner. The only thing Reid has over Boehner is that his tan is natural.

If we as voters stop fighting with each other and insist our elected officials move to the center, things will change. As long as we give the immature little children (the rabid 1% of each party) too much attention, they will dominate. Ask any first grade teacher how they manage the childish and immature.

As for the drones, they bother me. They bother me because we cannot agree here in our own nation as to the morality of them, how do you think out enemies, which are numerous, will look at this behavior. When we are no longer the #1 economy (technically we are already not, as the EU together is a larger economy, although in much worse shape) we might find ourselves running from this new enemy in our own cities.

Reid doesn't even have the tan over Boehner; he is quite pale as characterizes the Democratic "undead" (him, Pelosi).

But I agree the drones are capable of creating big trouble. I have been assuming that we are only flying them into other countries sovereign air space with government permission or as part of joint military missions.

If they were ever to fly in U.S. airspace I expect that the U.S. government would inform it's own citizens!!

Why would India care what we are doing in Pakistan?

For every Muslim theocracy, or military dictatorship that condemns the U.S., you have an equal number of countries that support it.

We arent the merc's of the cabal as some of you may think.

Oh and Muslims, you are lucky that we didnt turn 10 of your largest cities into craters after 9/11. If some drone strikes in the mountainous region of the armpit of the world is the worst you suffer, I say you are getting off very lucky.

The Japanese had the same attitude as Muslims during World War II. Two glowing craters later and Japan is a world power.

Why?

Because archaic religious BS and society dont mix. There is a reason why most Muslims live in mud huts, and it has nothing to do with the U.S.

Peace.

This is mountain country, not the Arizona boarder, it takes few troops to close all the mountain roads.

Get it?

MUGTECH- Those drones can be used to take out the "few troops" along the passages too- they should consider themselves lucky we are not targeting the Paks.

The Pakistan government says the CIA drone campaign fuels anti-American sentiment in the country, and is counterproductive because of collateral damage.

I wonder what the excuse was for anti-American sentiment before we started using drones- anybody know?

The dhimmi must love this drone stuff- not quite the hope and change their savior Obama was alluding to before the election, I think! Gotta give O credit- he's ramped up the pace; must mean he knows something the dhimmi don't .

Drones are used in USA also

True, but that's largely irrelevant. It's like freaking out because the US Army and city police forces both use helicopters. There's a big difference between an Apache doing a gun run, and an unarmed police helo following a carjacking suspect.

Same thing with UAVs; we're not shooting people from UAVs that fly the Mexican border or that will be flying security for the DNC and RNC this summer; indeed, those UAVs aren't even armed.

Randomreturn, with the NDAA shouldn't your observation include the operative word "yet"?

No, because the NDAA has nothing whatsover to do with combat operations in the United States.

YET! Give it some time as an awful lot of americans love the land of the somewhat free, and the Fed. Gov. wants to beat us all into submission.

Pakis have been acting as if they are a big ally on war in Afghanistan.

Pakis have many faces.

One face asks for economic and military aid, permits supply routes and so on.

The other face diverts part of the aid to militants; maintains the militants battling NATO forces; and attacks and steals supplies.

They were claiming that they were not aware of Osama in their country and at the same time he was sheltered right near their military complexes.

It was naive to believe/trust them in the first place. Dump backstabbing Pakis big time.

your with us or against us choose wisely----

Starsailing, Are you trying to compare WW2 a our wars now? If you remember Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor. Did Pakastan attack us or Iraq or even Afganistan? 911 involved mostly Saudis and I didn't hear Washington declaring war on Saudi Arabia did you? If Japan had used the same tactics as was used on 911 you can be sure War on Japan would have gone to Congress. All of this will soon come back to haunt us. We are murdering innocent civilians everyday in our attempt to end terrorism. The only way to end it is to end our tyranny around the world.

I can't underestand how they can close the supply routes to us, but they say they can't eliminate all of the millitant training camps in their country because they are in very remote mountainous regions.

Just more double speaking with a forked tounge!

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA

Jackson,

Actually, yes, we were attacked- it may have been Saudis who execute the operation, but it was OBL that planned it and A-stan/P-stan that hid him while he did. And in Yemen, they and their civilians were attacked by AQAP. That's why the Yemeni's called us in. And Paki harbored and aided fugitives. It could have been a very different picture. Instead of risking US Spec Ops lives to verify that we a) Only took out OBL and b) Only took out OBL, we could have very easily sent a B-2 or two over head with a couple MOABs and made sure there was no escape leveling the whole city (and we STILL wouldn't have killed as many Paki's as they and OBL killed on 9/11). What did we do instead? Surgical strike, took out only armed occupants of the compound. Hell, we even left the women and children alive! They didn't. Still want to compare?

Jackson..............my point made is perfectly clear. The whole world knows that Pakistan has aided Bin Laden and his members since they escaped from Afghanistan. Do you continue to allow them to train, take over villages, etc while they plan for the next strike against the U.S. possibly killing thousands more, or do you take them out while they are deliberately hiding and using innocents as shields? The same people wish to cause unrest to topple Pakistan's gov. A super amount of intel was picked up with the killing of Bin Laden. The question is lose our innocents or theirs? Tibbets came right out and said he had no doubt what needed to be done and that it was the right decision...without me asking! He was asked that every day of his life. When a leader is faced with that decision.......one that our nation elected Him/Her to do....we hope he/she weighs all the correct options and does not put his own legacy (Bush..I want to be known as a war president because war presidents are remembered.)or put the war profiteers(like Cheney's company Haliburton)at the head of the agenda. So...our innocents...or the enemy's..? Obviously we want no innocent people to die.

WWII had issues that led the Japanese to make the decision for them to attack the U.S. Check out how the U.S. put the Japanese against the wall by messing with their oil supplies.

Starsailing . . are you proposing that Obama invade Pakistan?? You are feisty!!

whiskey eye: Pakis imagine that they are too smart.

So minority Pakis are "with us" and majority are "against us."

Not as many as on 9/11.

That's right "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" with that logic before long we'll all be blind and toothless.

How many guilty terrorists still want you dead?

anona- Do you let a rabid dog bite you, then shoot it? HMF- right on. Besides, they were collaborators.

BOB- we all don't really know - why don't you go over and start counting? You can fill us imperialists in on the number when you get back.

Might wanna buy funeral insurance before you go though, just in case the peace-loving Al-Queda boys have differant ideas about your visit.

Oh, brother......

I don;t recall any of the 911 terrorists coming from the mountains of Pakistan. But let's drop bombs on their houses when thier sleeping. We are the good guys. Makes us feel good !

There are no "innocent" civilians...read your history.

Coming to a city near you.

2,985 people died in 9/11

3,145 people in total were killed to date in drone attacks

830 being innocent civilians,175 being children

thats just the ones reported.so i guess for all you bloodthirsty bastards out there,we still have a lot more innocent people to tally up.do you really think they're over there because of terrorists?the government have their own agenda.even though you got soldiers who were actually over there,throwing their medals back at NATO in the streets,we should all just ignore it and continue to support this mission because the media told us to.they never lie,right?they HAVE to tell the truth.

No one is innocent in war except children....period! If you mix your pea-brained, anally PC garbage into our war strategy then we lose. That's the way it is. It's a good thing you are not a military leader. Nothing you can do or say will change the way we fight wars. NOTHING.

We actually work reasonably hard to avoid civilian casualties; military leadership disagrees with your assertions, Bringit

Under Obama, the CIA has killed more people than it has captured, mainly through drone missile strikes in Pakistan's tribal areas. At the same time, it has stopped trying to detain or interrogate suspects caught abroad, except those captured in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"The CIA is out of the detention and interrogation business," said a U.S. official who is familiar with intelligence operations but was not authorized to speak publicly...

reference - http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/10/world/la-fg-cia-interrogation-20110411

For a inter-active time line of all reported CIA drone strikes by "The Bureau of Investigative journalism." see http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/category/projects/drone-data/

CIA Drone Strikes in Pakistan 2004 – 2012

Total US strikes: 327
Obama strikes: 275
Total reported killed: 2,464-3,145
Civilians reported killed: 482-830
Children reported killed: 175
Total reported injured: 1,181-1,294

US Covert Action in Yemen 2001- 2012

Total confirmed US operations (all): 44-54
Total confirmed US drone strikes: 31-41
Possible additional US operations: 87-96
Possible additional US drone strikes: 49-55
Total reported killed (all): 317-826
Total civilians killed (all): 58-138
Children killed (all): 24

US Covert Action in Somalia 2007 – 2012

Total US strikes: 10-21
Total US drone strikes: 3-9
Total reported killed: 58-169
Civilians reported killed: 11-57
Children reported killed: 1-3

randomreturn,

The CIA also states they have killed ZERO civilians with their drones. Oh this is right, because Obama redefined what a civilian was. It must now not include children...

The US Military has already KILLED a Marine & Medic, with a drone. Even when the people on the ground were stating that the wrong area was being targeted. And the technical observer was questioning the target, the drone operator fired anyway...

omg youre retarded...do you think this is some gay little football game or something, you armchair coward/idiot? unbelievable.

Out of all the comments posted in this forum, THIS is the one that gets you riled up?? Seriously?

I believe it had the least amount of words to read which made it the obvious choice for the good doctor to respond to.

Stuff like this is an unfortunate consequence of combat. It's unfair and sucks. We should be careful as we have been, we should keep up the heat as we have been. No it's not a football game and it is not gay but it is a strategy. Dr Sebby sound like a young girl who just wants peace. Its nice to have all the answers before you realize you didn't. It's also unfortunate we have to grow up.

PARTIAL REPRINT - "Right now we can only EFFECTIVELY do this from the air using drone strikes. So Pakistan really only has itself to blame for these drone strikes and any unfortunate collateral damage which might occur to civilian populations." - RC

(This deadly cancer of terrorism MUST be addressed, or it stands to kill our entire world one day. I personally hope we will have more accurate weapons at our disposal one day (high powered aerial lasers) when it comes to destroying this deadly cancer known as terrorism.)

PS - I personally think X-ray lasers would be the most effective tool when it comes to combating this deadly cancer known as terrorism, before this deadly cancer has a chance to metastasize and eventually kill our entire world. But the technology of X-ray lasers is still a little ways away. - RC

(It is the outside offensive totalitarian ETs who covertly designed and installed these deadly viruses of the human mind into our world (the corrupt Abrahamic religions) over a period of several thousand Earth years, while repeatedly masquerading as Divinity toward mankind in the process of doing this, who are most responsible for this tragic deadly situation in our world. This offensive covert ET tampering with our world has already caused over a billion human deaths down through history, and it is designed to one day destroy our entire emerging human world. It is completely beyond me why the U.S. government is still aiding and abetting this longstanding ET conspiracy against our world by refusing to tell the world "The Truth" about these ETs. In any case, my conscience is clear because I have done so myself, even if no one in this world wants to believe me.) - Rick Carter

Well that sure went from a high to a low.

Since DrSebby was collapsed: I'll repost

If DrSebby had taken out all the "OMG" and "brainless," etc. comments would you all still be picking on his post. It seems that you can't counteract the "essence" of his meaning, only chastise his wording.

Who is attacking us? The US has currently 27 "police actions" around the world. We are killing people, many of them, if not most of them innocent civilians. I do not fear Pakistan simply because it is half a world away - now if we randomly decide that we hate Canadians and start bombing them for no reason, I'll be scared stiff.

Our soldiers shouldn't be over there in sovereign nations to begin with...if they weren't there, they wouldn't be attacked and I'm not worried about a flotilla of destroyers from the Middle East.

Sometimes diplomacy works...but with the - "nuke them all" crowd - I think Dr.Sebby chose to speak your language so you would understand what he was saying.

-deleted- posted in wrong place

WE put Karzi in power as our puppet.... I guess he's grown tired of having his strings pulled. Perhaps looking at children's corpses has made him change his mind about having the "benevolent" US bombs as an ally.

Nah. He will be voted out soon enough

He already has.Just last week I read an article on how they have been ok'd for use by police and other federal agencies.

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!

I wonder the same thing xsited1, but I believe the drones are operating here anyway. Despite campaign promises to scale back the Patriot Act and give us back some of our freedoms, granted in the Constitution.....the President has just signed into law that any American on American soil can be assassinated without Due Process or a Trial...."opps, a drone fell on your house."

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/12/constitutional-expert-president-obama-says-that-he-can-kill-you-on-his-own-discretion-he-can-jail-you-indefinitely-on-his-own-discretion.html

Cheney wanted to do that but Bush said no,Biden will say no.

Black Kettle that law was put in place right after 9/11 Obama was not pres. then.

And who will say no to President Romney? Or the one after him?

Age or sex of these people has absolutely nothing to do with weather or not they are innocent!

I have seen many photos of children walking around with AK-47's.

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!

denko95, why do you keep repeating that lie? I guess the saying is true, "if you repeat a lie long enough and loud enough it will become the truth". Get your head out of the sand!!! President Bush had cut the funds to the agency that was tasked with finding Bid Laden, President Obama turned around and increased that funding. They got briefed on where the military was on finding the sick turd Bin Laden, when they had what they thought was credible evidence they came to the President and informed him of where they thought Bin Laden was hiding. The President in turn looked at the scenarios that were put before him by the military minds that are there for just that purpose, picked the action he thought would work, and gave the order to kill Bin Laden.

I want you to PLEASE explain to me and all the other readers on this board, how this action could have been in the works before President Obama took office, and why in the hell it took so long to pull off? Get it? The killing of Bin Laden took place LAST YEAR, and that was HOW MANY YEARS after he took office????: HUH? HUH? HUH?????

Please put your tin foil hat to the side, back away from the kool-aid stand, and start thinking for yourself. It's not a hard thing to do really, you just open your mind and free thought starts to flow.

And yes President Obama gets big ups and lots of credit for the removal of one of the most hated men in this country!!!!!

Independent who voted for Ralph Nader!

Tired......... Well there you go! Voted for Nader? Shows to me you will fall for any line of crap. This discussion would not be happening if not for 911. Anybody that thinks another president would have done better or done differently is delusional. ALL presidents must rely on information given them by others, you know, the CIA, FBI and other countries counterparts. THAT information was given to the president and CONGRESS who VOTED to go to these wars. Back at ya! Quit blaming Bush and Cheny. It is obvious to me you know nothing about how government works.

Sorry Jim, but I felt that the Potus was not ready for the office yet and John McCain left me cold, but since I have been voting since I was 18 I saw no reason to "sit this one out". So sorry if my vote did not coincide with what you felt was appropriate, but there we go with the "right to vote and be counted".

Did you read and comprehend the post? Because I believe I said that there was NO way that the mission to kill OBL was initiated under Bush, not that intel from that administration did not pass on valuable information. The other thing is that it is FACT that the group that was tasked to find that turd had been underfunded, and you can find that in the news file interviews with Bush saying that finding OBL was not that important anymore. Did he or did he not say that? And where did I blame Bush or Dead eye Dick for anything? See that is the problem with you people, you make an assumption and twist what someone else has said to fit your own agenda.

As for what I know about Government. I know a hell of a lot more than you do and you can take that any way you chose. And as for 9/11 ...... I live and work in the DC area so I know ALL about that day, and unless your backside was here or in NY or Penn, you get to STFU!!!!!

You self serving, it's my way or the highway, buttwipe!!!

I agree. 1 American death ought to = 1000 dead whateverstani's!

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Terrorizing the terrorists? Oh, my God, how apropos! Gee, I wish I had thought of this myself. - RC

Perhaps up the yield on the warheads too...they are getting a pathetic return on investment to kill ratio.

I truly thank you from the most inner part of my heart and soul for your service to my/our country!!!!!!

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Racist much?

Get a grip Dude. It was the previous wars that give you the right to speak such non-sense.

We are still there because our enimies are there. We can take the fight to them over there or let them get strong and they will take the fight over here. Don't think so ............Sept 11 2001,......Dec. 7 1941, shall I go on? No one thought Germany coulod take over 2/3 of Europe in five years either. All it takes is money, motivation, and organization. So far they have two of the three.

We have security in place to deal with attacks. I know it's not 100% but there is no need for us to be there at all. We tell Pakistan if you find out your behind anything we come after you and follow up on our words. Your scare tactics are a fail. Enough with the military spending.

@ Mark-3941751

remember Sept 11th?? You obviously have no clue what went on because you're getting informed by a media who cares more about telling you a particular version of truth, -the one that suits their corporate interests, as opposed to reality. Take a real good look at the facts 911 (ajl.smugmug com/911) then comment.