It's official: Twitter kills the Queen's English

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Gyles Brandreth, a former MP who is a patron of the Queen's English Society, said the society's demise doesn't prove the death of proper English. "The Queen's English isn't under threat," he said.

Purportedly finding itself increasingly irrelevant in an age of 140-character Twitter speak and text abbreviations, the unofficial British guardian of proper English is calling it quits. OMG! #language


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The Queen's English Society, which has caviled at writers', politicians' and entertainers' "misuse" of the language for 40 years, is disbanding at the end of the month, its chairwoman, Rhea Williams, announced in a message to members, The Independent reported Monday.

(Befitting the organization's traditionalist bent, Williams insists on being called "chairman.")


Williams sent the notice after the society was able to muster only 22 people to attend its annual conference, which ended with no candidates' having stepped forward for chairman, vice chairman, administrator, webmaster or membership secretary.

The society — whose punctuation guide alone runs to more than 6,000 words — is famous for having taken on the language and speech of the most powerful and popular personalities. Those include BBC announcers, whom it has derided for speaking in their own local accents instead of the plummy English known among academics as Received Pronunciation.

Firmly taking sides in a disagreement that has helped to define modern linguistics studies, the society declares that "we prefer the prescriptive approach to the descriptive approach, as we do not want the language to lose its fine or major distinctions."

But "things change, people change," The Guardian quoted Williams has having said about her decision to announce the society's death. "People care about different things. If you look at lots of societies, lots of them are having problems."

British reports blamed the speed of modern communications.

The Guardian concluded that the society had "finally conceded it cannot survive in the era of textspeak and Twitter." The Daily Mail also blamed Twitter, but it added "contracted spellings and Americanisms" to the list of culprits.

In fact, the Queen's English Society has ruffled many feathers over the years with its Olympian pronouncements on the proper way to speak and write. It has particularly annoyed educators, whom it blames for fostering "permissive" approaches to teaching English, whether it is because they "are not able to correct poor English" or "do not have the time to do so."

Such attacks attract opposition, which is exemplified by the existence of Anti-Queen's English Society, a group founded by English academics to counter claims that "English-which-isn't-the-Queen's is culturally and intellectually lower." As its name implies, the A-QES opposes everything the Queen's English Society stands for, calling its members "archaic perpetuators of linguistic prejudice" and dismissing its research as "laughable."

The Queen's English Society rejects such criticism, contending that it "encourages rich and imaginative English where appropriate, as in poetry, drama, fiction and some non-fiction."

Gyles Brandreth, a former Conservative member of Parliament and broadcaster who is a patron of the society, suggested that such disagreements prove that many people still passionately care about English.

"The Queen's English isn't under threat," Brandreth told The Independent. "Her Majesty can sleep easy. The language is still in the good hands of all the people who speak good English."

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Bloody hell, I say!

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

Identifying one way of speaking and writing the "Queen's English" was all part of royalty's way of controlling the populace and creating a more concrete divide between the classes.

Now if only Brits would wake up and sweep the whole anachronistic system of royalty from their society, that would show more respect in themselves and recognition that people should have the right to choose their own leaders. Their continuing support of a birthline-imposed ruling class prevents them from returning the stolen royal wealth to whom it rightly belongs: the citizens.

I do acknowledge, though, that even Americans identify a self-imposed class system by viewing those not only with incorrect English as inferior, but also those who use strong Southern and Midwestern English in their speech. Ever since the day of CNN, it has become clearer that "educated" Americans are perceived as smarter and more successful if they speak West Coast-accented English like Anderson Cooper and Barack Obama.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

The royalty in the UK is only a figurehead.

They elect a Prime Minister just as we elect a President.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:36 PM EDT

This decay of the English language goes right along with the decay of morals, trust, and class (informal elegance of style, taste, and manner -- [moron!]) in our society. It is heart breaking that we are living in this subprime life this way. Real life is so much better.

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

I don't agree that our morals are decaying, but I do agree that very few people have any class any more.

    #1.4 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 1:34 AM EDT

    @Tina - while the Royalty is a figurehead, we don't elect a Prime Minister. We elect constituency Members of Parliament and the majority party (or, in the present case, parties) form a Government under the leadership of a Prime Minister (who must be an elected constituency MP) and is nearly always the party leader (I cannot think of an example to the contrary) and so throughout the whole 4 week election campaign the electorate know who they will get as PM depending on the party of the local MP for whom they vote.

    @amietamant - the Monarch is a figurehead (as has been mentioned) and has no actual power beyond ceremonial (which I contend have psychological importance) and hasn't for several centuries. Power rests in the elected Government. We cut a King's head off 350 years ago for trying to make himself above Parliament!

    Your most contentious assertions are based, I suspect, on certain misconceptions (which Forbes, I think it is, fall into as well). The 'stolen Royal wealth' presumably includes the Crown Jewels, the Royal Palaces, the Crown Estates, etc. However, the Monarch does not own the vast majority of these - they are owned by the State and held in trust by the Monarch for the Nation. (I doubt PM David Cameron would look very good in a crown.) Moreover, the Monarchy was practically bankrupt under the reign of Victoria leading to new arrangements for how they might self-sustain.

    The 'birth-line imposed ruling class' only works if you ignore the deviations and breaks in lineage particularly upon the death of Elizabeth I - which lead to a somewhat distant relative James I/VI (King of Scotland) becoming King of England which led to the eventual Union of England & Wales and Scotland. And 'ruling' works only if you genuinely believe any power rests in the Monarch. The current Queen's surname should actually be Saxe-Coburg-Gotha from her German forebears (Victoria's mother and husband). Not so strangely, they changed their somewhat Germanic name to Windsor when WWI looked inevitable so they could disassociate themselves from their war-preferring cousin Kaiser Wilhelm II.

    What is odious, and far lesser known, is that around a quarter of all the land in Britain is owned by the directly-descended families of the couple of hundred nobles who invaded in 1066 - you can tell them from their names like de Lacey, de Burgh or Fitzgerald. They have no direct political power but wealth and the attendant power that can confer. While the Monarch's power and wealth has waned (and they're mainly German) these Norman French have passed their wealth and power unchecked from generation to generation for the best part of a millenia.

    The only way to deal with this would be to seize their estates and redistribute their wealth and something tells me that this would not go down too well with many American commenters.

    On the actual article subject (!): I have found that the collapsing standards in spoken English are fine in face to face contact but have (and are having) a direct effect on written English where people are spelling things as they pronounce them. Combine this with 'txt spk' and I end up getting emails from people which are incomprehensible, barely literate gibberish. Given that the sole pupose of language is to communicate facts, thoughts, emotions and ideas letting standards slip is somewhat self-defeating and allows those rich enough to afford a good education to dominate those who are left inarticulate and unable to express their contrary opinion to those in power.

    By the way, could this be the daftest Americanism creeping into British English: 'Fedz'. As in FBI. As in American FBI. As in FBI that Britain doesn't have, has never had and is unlikely to ever have. Madness.

      #1.5 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 4:16 PM EDT
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      La-di-da!!

      • 1 vote
      Reply#2 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

      I find this most disturbing. While I do not always get it right, I strive to use proper English at all times. It is my belief that the ever growing practice of text messaging, tweeting, and the use of abbreviations in every day speech is changing our grammar, usage and syntax, permanently,and for the worst. This is another symptom of morons storming the citadels of knowledge,erudition,and elucidation.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#3 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

      Same here Joe. Some of the mistakes I see my fellow college class mates and even instructors make sometimes make me cringe. I cannot count the number of times I have seen class members use the letter 'u' instead of 'you'. Sometimes the instructors make grammatical mistakes but not spelling ones.

      I definitely think Twitter and Facebook should be lifting their character limits. Both are not needed and just force everyone to try and come up with decipherable ways of spelling things with acronyms and abbreviations.

      • 5 votes
      #3.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

      I watched a young girl at a light that took a few changes before we got through. She would put the cell to text up and down up and down oblivious to her surroundings. Then I got a little ahead of her and saw her Camary totally caved in on the front. Looked like repeats with different color paint. That is a OMG fur shr :(

      I could care less how dumbed down the new generations are just don't kill anyone with your mindless texting while driving.....

      • 5 votes
      #3.2 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

      I agree. While I think the way that language evolves and changes is a wonderful thing, I worry about this trend. It reminds me too much of Idiocracy...

      • 3 votes
      #3.3 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 6:18 PM EDT
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      Sad day. I had never heard of the society, but I wonder if people will even be able to communicate once all standards are gone.

        Reply#4 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 5:59 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarA Bowl A Barvia Facebook

        Joe Amato, you clearly have no understanding of how language functions. Language is an evolving system. The only way it freezes is if it becomes a dead language. Good luck trying to stop it.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#5 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

        It's not bad either if people strive to conserve a language just as it has been taught to us. Languages today have become bastardized and, while some words have been incorporated by our daily lives, others are simply made up. I'm a native Spanish speaker and everyday I'm disappointed when I hear people not speaking it correctly. You are right in that every language constantly evolves, but by doing so the original form is lost. Having a society that strives to protect the original form of the language (or at least not be as open to changes) does nothing wrong and, in my opinion, demonstrate a passion for the art of language itself.

        • 1 vote
        #5.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 6:08 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarA Bowl A Barvia Facebook

        I understand your point of view. But even Spanish is a "bastardization" of Vulgar Latin. We need these societies for the standardization of languages. I have a passion for the art of language as well, however as a linguist, I'm more interested in the description of language and not the prescription of it. To each his own.

        • 1 vote
        #5.2 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

        True, language evolves. But we really need someone to hold fast in defense of proper ussage, otherwise the effective communication of ideas will suffer. I cringe when I see someone has written "I would of" when "I would've" is indicated by the context, or when "your" is used in place of "you're." A breif review of the comments to any article such as this one will reveal the sloppy usage and sloppy thinking of those writing the comments. I have no doubt that my own writing could be improved. I am willing to be corrected. I won't defend my own sloppiness.

        • 3 votes
        #5.3 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

        @ Joe s, and you weren't confused by it, so it was effective, the problem with people defending language is that it's usually mental illness rather than anything productive and they often don't even know the rules they're trying to enforce.

        Your and you're are typos, and the more people I see whining about it the more of them I make because I get sick of all the whining about minor typos by people who need medication.

        Ultimately, it's a type of bullying and I for one would be grateful to see all those people shut up and let the rest of us get back to business. I rarely see any grammar corrections where they're desperately needed, as in where the meaning isn't clear. I always see them on pedantic things like failing to include the oxford comma or misspelling there.

        Language does evolve, but many of the most cherished grammar rules haven't been true in at least 500 years. Splitting infinitives, dangling participles, ain't, the use of they for the singular third person are all things that are perfectly acceptable when used properly. And for the most part you can find examples going back hundreds of years.

        I teach English and it makes me sad to see how thoroughly incompetent the defenders of the English language are when they don't even know the rules they're defending.

          #5.4 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

          Frank, if you are an English teacher, do you tolerate "minor typos" on your students' papers? If you do, shame on you. Typos, misspellings, misplaced modifiers, and other common mistakes that are nade on scholarly essays or other academic work is inexcusable. While I get your point about people getting all bent out of shape over minor typos in forums like this, I still believe that it shows a lack of caring about what one writes when these mistakes are allowed to proliferate. Even this forum has spell checker. People should use it. If they don't, then I don't think I can be blamed for thinking them either lazy or just plain stupid.

            #5.5 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:25 PM EDT

            I agree with Joe S.

            We have to have SOME standards.

            • 1 vote
            #5.6 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:34 PM EDT
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            Comment author avatarA Bowl A Barvia Facebook

            Never mind. After seeing more of the comments, it turns out MANY of MSNBC's readers don't understand language. Pity.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#6 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

            We understand language, we just don't want to be forced to say:
            "Dude's swagger is gr8, brb g2g buy some bling" rather than something along the lines of "The gentleman is attractive. I will be right back, I have to buy some jewelry" in civil, formal, conversation. It's fine for vulgar shorthand, but not for anything outside of that context.

            • 3 votes
            #6.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

            Don't worry MP it won't be long before everyone just reverts back to grunting and pointing their clubs at whatever it is they are talking about to get the point across. Look at what's happened in just shy of twenty years. Imagine the rate of this de-evolution continuing another 20 or 30 years...people will be back to blowing pigment across their hands on cave walls. LOL.

            • 1 vote
            #6.2 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:38 PM EDT
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            Here's the part that I find interesting- Americans and our purported "ugliness" are, once again, taking a part in the blame. What is one reason for the demise of this Society? Americanism. Why is their benevolent language changing? Americanisms.

            I noticed they don't have a Society in the UK to protect the heritage of their German language. As a matter of fact, I never hear folks from the UK speaking fluent German. I wonder who they have to thank for that.

            Call us the next time you get yourself in a bind. I'm sure we'll help. Until then, we'll stay ugly.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#7 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

            I didn't see anything in the article that blamed Americans or Americanism for the disinterest in keeping the society together. Not really sure where you are getting that from and your post comes off as bitter. Did you know someone who suggested that Americans are to blame for the demise of proper English? It seems, according to this article, that the society was more focused on English speakers within the UK not on American speakers of the language.

              #7.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

              Just an FYI, people in the UK speak English, not German. While the present dynasty in the monarchy is of German ancestry, they no longer speak German. As a matter of fact, George V changed the name of the dynasty from Saxe-Coburg-Gothe to Windsor because they didn't want to be perceived as being German. My grandfather was German, but that doesn't make me German.

                #7.2 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                Al Czervik, that is an extremely arrogant & ignorant point of view, and you aren't doing the rest of the American population any favours regarding worldwide opinion with that viewpoint.

                Great Britain were able to successfully defend their own lands from Nazi invasion during WW2 without help from anyone from the USA (perhaps Canadians & exiled Europeans may have been on hand to lend assistance?) however it's true that the USA contributed in the offensive at the western front. Yes, the USA were pivotal, but you must get your facts right.

                The suggestion that Britain would be speaking German if it weren't for the USA is downright insulting.

                • 1 vote
                #7.3 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:55 PM EDT

                @Deb P. - in part, Al is referring to the fact that the people in the UK don't speak German because we entered WWII and helped "save the world" from Hitler and the Nazis. What people like Al don't mention is that we entered the war because Pearl Harbor was attacked, not out of the goodness of our hearts to help the UK. Pearl Harbor provided an excuse for Roosevelt to enter the war, but since anti-war sentiment was very high, who knows what would have happened if the Japanese hadn't decided to drag us into it militarily? To hear people like Al tell it though, we entered WWII simply because Britain needed us. They "forget" Pearl Harbor and also ignore the fact that Britain fought valiantly for 2 years, losing thousands of military and civilian lives and surviving The Blitz, before we showed up.

                My brother used to live in London and thought he was being very clever when he'd comment to Brits about our showing up in WWII to "save their bacon." Until one day, a Brit more clever than my brother responded "Yes, you helped a great deal, and we appreciate it. But if it happens again, it would be nice if you showed up on time. Otherwise, the next time you guys want to invade some country in the Middle East and look for fictitious WMDs, you can do it without us."

                • 1 vote
                #7.4 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 9:17 PM EDT

                Al,

                It is actually the other way around. American English is the English that was spoken during those times in Britain, or closer to it. The Queen's English is fairly new in comparison.

                  #7.5 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 1:09 AM EDT

                  The Americans had a role in defeating the Germans and her allies during WWII but we certainly did not do it by ourselves, as people like to think.
                  The Russians played a big part in defeating the Germans.
                  They were our allies back then.

                  • 1 vote
                  #7.6 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 1:39 AM EDT
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                  Canceled due to lack of interest.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#8 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 7:02 PM EDT

                  The "Queen's English" is an elitist notion that a small and prejudicial group of snobs (the "aristocracy") is superior to the peasants and the proof is their codified language. It's time that such outmoded and racist thinking be assigned to the dust bin of history. "Proper grammar" and the pronunciations cited in the Oxford Dictionary, while protecting English from the depredations of extreme linguistic barbarians, have their roots in establishing this dwindling group of snobs as superior and worthy of adulation.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#9 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 7:02 PM EDT

                  Good riddance, I hate "Grammar Nazis".. There is no one way to communicate. If the other person understands you, that's all that matters. If you can make it more interesting, all the better. Thats why "slang" is popular..

                  Rigid conformists are what make the world a miserable place. They spend too much time worrying about everyone else's business, and finger pointing, instead of minding their own.

                    Reply#10 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

                    So what you are saying is why teach grammar at all?

                    That makes no sense.

                    • 1 vote
                    #10.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:38 PM EDT
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                    "The Queen's English isn't under threat," Brandreth told The Independent. "Her Majesty can sleep easy. The language is still in the good hands of all the people who speak good English."

                    The language is still in the good hands of all the people who speak English well.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#11 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

                    Hehe. :)

                      #11.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 12:56 PM EDT
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                      I still cannot understand an Englishman.

                        Reply#12 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                        What is text, twitter and tweet english? Since I don't use them I guess I'll have to read the book. Gosh, I always thought lol stood for loser online.

                        Peace

                          Reply#13 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 7:47 PM EDT

                          Now who's going to correct our grammar, pronunciation and punctuation? Struth, I say, Struth!

                            Reply#14 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

                            Certainly not our children's teachers. Most are ignoramuses.

                              #14.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:15 PM EDT

                              Because they have been allowed to get away with being ignoramuses, Blamo.

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                              #14.2 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:29 PM EDT
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                              Twitter kills brain cells.

                                Reply#15 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:30 PM EDT

                                Only if you end up talking like that. Otherwise you just have to turn a few off while making your tweet. Actually it takes some creativity to come up with ways to shorten words but still make them recognizable but that is one good thing about the Human brain. Even if a word is scrambled most people can identify what that word is. If there is a type most people can see the context of the sentence and understand what the originator of that type actually meant.

                                But you are right, talking or typing like the way you tweet all of the time is a sign of brain damage in some cases and laziness in most.

                                  #15.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 1:13 AM EDT
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                                  The Queen's English has been dead for a long time. It is just now being buried. I understand that language is not static, but unless there is some kind of standardization, how will anyone be able to communicate? Correct spelling and grammar matters. What if people wrote their resumes using only "Twitter" acronyms and other texting nonsense? I have thrown resumes that have been sent to me in the trash because they were filled with typos and mistakes in grammar. My thought process is that if you don't care enough to make your resume look professional, then I don't need to hire you.

                                  I also understand how language has been used to perpetuate the class system in Britain, and from that perspective, I'm glad to see it go, although I'm sure Professor Henry Higgins would b having apoplexy.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#16 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                                  Hear hear!!

                                    #16.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:39 PM EDT
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                                    I Like CHEESE!!

                                      Reply#17 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

                                      Errors rife in books, web sites, and instructors - and here you call the chairman "chairwoman" because you wish to make a point.

                                        Reply#18 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 8:46 PM EDT

                                        So, if she insists on being called a 'chairman' why don't you call her a chairman instead of a chairwoman? After all the articles MSNBC has published obliging some transgendered individual who insists on being referred to by whatever pronoun suits his/her/its fancy, when the same request is made for a traditionalist reason you blatantly refuse, then brag about your superiority in such matters by emphasizing the snub in paragraph 3.

                                        Whether it is the correct etymology or not, I tend to treat the 'man' in such cases in the Germanic sense, where 'man' means 'one' (as in someone, anyone, 'one ought not to...', etc). I have to agree with Rhea: chairwoman is a PC bastardization of a perfectly functional word. The modified form doesn't fix anything because it remains gender-specific. If you think that 'chairman' is sexist, then you can choose to move on and simply treat 'chairman' as gender neutral. If that is too traditional for your enlightened sensibilities, make up a gender-neutral word instead of treating gender as a central issue when it is completely irrelevant, such as in this article. Instead of replacing one gender-bound word (in your opinion, not mine) with another like 'chairwoman', why not free yourself from any gender consideration at all and call it a chairone, chairit, [I'm stressed, does QES support the serial comma?] or simply chairsitter instead?

                                        By the way, the first syllable in this word is also highly offensive to other forms of furniture. Stools, bean bags, and other backless pelvic support mechanisms should be outraged for being treated in such a demeaning fashion.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#19 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

                                        Blah, you British people just need to learn to speak American.

                                          Reply#20 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:20 PM EDT

                                          I have 2 elementary school age children who are learning to read and write. They always ask why we have silent letters and different meanings/pronunciations for the same word. I have to tell them that I honestly don't know. Tradition I guess. Seems like a lot of wasted time learning how to spell words 'wrong' . Let's ditch the queen's English and follow the wave of the future. Think of the annual savings of ink, time, paper, memory space, and kids frustration with learning this antiquated spelling system. They could be learning much more important things than learning to spell 'in code'.

                                            Reply#21 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:41 PM EDT

                                            .....let me guess Dennis....not much of a speller???????

                                              #21.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:50 PM EDT

                                              That's irrelevant, "doc," but I think we still need to adhere to some basic "spelling" principles so that we can all understand each other. Unregulated language will just lead to an outburst of different styles and before we know it, we're all speaking different languages. In your house and on twitter you can do whatever you like, but in professional writing we definitely need to follow rules.

                                                #21.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 5:24 AM EDT
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                                                Just another dying cult voicing a lonely, desperate cry for help before they're gone for good. No biggie...

                                                  Reply#22 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

                                                  I dislike when people say "I was like..." instead of "I said".

                                                    Reply#23 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:54 PM EDT

                                                    I'm all for standards and using accurate grammar and/or vocabulary, but will anyone really miss The Queen's English? And who decided the Queen's English was the standard bear of the English language? What about Shakespeare's English, thou arts, thees, thous, thines? Or maybe Old English. If it was good enough for Beowulf (or the Anglo-Saxon that wrote it), it should be good enough for the rest of us.
                                                    Latin is a bastardization of Latin? Caesar must be peeved. How does one say 'peeved' in Latin? Do we hear about the Tzar's Russian? Or the Kaiser's German? No.

                                                    When you hold hard and fast to 'rules' that will forever grow and change, then you run the risk of obsolescence.

                                                      Reply#24 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 12:37 AM EDT

                                                      I don't think Twitter, Facebook, and texting are really the problem here. The problem is people can't distinguish when to use proper grammar and when it is ok to short-hand it. In my junior english class, there were students that thought short-handing the word "people" to "ppl" was ok, and they would use "ppl" in research papers. Disgraceful!

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