China tells US Embassy to stop reporting Beijing pollution

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In this file image from 2010, a man walks on a pedestrian overpass on a hazy day at Beijing's Central Business District.

BEIJING - A senior Chinese official demanded on Tuesday that foreign embassies stop issuing air pollution readings, saying it was against the law and diplomatic conventions, in pointed criticism of a closely watched U.S. Embassy index.

The level of air pollution in China's heaving capital varies, depending on the wind, but a cocktail of smokestack emissions, vehicle exhaust, dust and aerosols often blankets the city in a pungent, beige shroud for days on end.


Many residents dismiss the common official readings of "slight" pollution in Beijing as grossly under-stated.

The U.S. Embassy posts hourly air-quality data on its popular Twitter feed, the U.S.-funded Voice of America explains. Using data from a monitoring point on the embassy roof, the feed was set up in 2009 following widespread complaints that official government readings were understating pollution levels in the smog-filled capital city, the VoA reported.

While China tightened air pollution monitoring standards in January, the official reading and the U.S. Embassy reading can often be far apart.

Chinese experts have criticized the single U.S. Embassy monitoring point as "unscientific".

Deputy Environment Minister Wu Xiaoqing went a step further, saying such readings were illegal and should stop, though he did not directly name the United States.

Chinese are growing more outspoken about the "fog," now accurately calling it "smog," covering cities like Beijing.

"According to the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations ... foreign diplomats are required to respect and follow local laws and cannot interfere in internal affairs," Wu told a news conference.

"China's air quality monitoring and information release involve the public interest and are up to the government. Foreign consulates in China taking it on themselves to monitor air quality and release the information online not only goes against the spirit of the Vienna Convention ... it also contravenes relevant environmental protection rules."

The U.S. Embassy acknowledges on its website that its equipment cannot be relied upon for general monitoring, saying "citywide analysis cannot be done ... on data from a lone machine".

Embassy officials were not immediately available for comment on Wu's criticism.

Wu said China's air quality standards were drawn up in consultation with the World Health Organisation and "accorded with the present situation in our country".

Despite his criticism, Wu acknowledged that China's air quality and overall environmental situation remained precarious, with more than one tenth of monitored rivers rated severely polluted, for example.

Wu said the government was studying a long-mooted environment tax on polluting industries, though he did not give a timetable for when it might come into effect nor give details of how the tax might work.

"We need to make sure that certain companies are fulfilling their environmental obligations," he added. The tax "will ensure companies bear a corresponding cost for the damage and pollution their emissions cause". 

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They are a country that could care less about human rights, or the environment. China is a communist regime with deplorable human rights issues, always has been and forseeably always will be. They dont care if their citizens are exposed to toxic air, they dont care if the rest of the world has to deal with their disregard for environmental issues. They kill prison inmates so that they can sell their organs on the black market. They kill people for looking wrong. It doesnt matter there. Remember that 3 year old that got ran over not once but twice and sat there bleeding to death in the street for a long long long time with dozens of people walking past the child not even bothering to look. They dont care. Its their government not the people mind you, but they dont care and they will never care. They sensor everything, the government lies to the people more than ours does and thats really saying something since our government hasnt been truthfull in a couple decades. All that aside, since we owe china trillions of dollars I dont suppose its really a good idea to sit there and do @!$%# to piss them off, they very well could try to collect and we dont have any way to pay it back. If they invaded there really wouldnt be much hope, all our technology isnt really that much farther along than theirs and they have nearly 2 Billion people to throw at us and trust me they wouldnt care about the casualties they have plenty more to replace them with. We cant treat the chinese the way we do the rest of the world, we shouldnt treat the rest of the world the way we do but thats an other topic. We are their bitch and we will stay that way untill the wealthy idiots in government quit trying to do everything in their power to make this country a tool for the top wealthy individuals in this country to make more money. So long as they keep the policies they have been doing since Bush started making tax cuts for this that and everything else related to the wealthy. China will own us untill greed and corruption leave the government, and since you have no chance to see a candidate that isnt deep in the pockets of some corporation some where that day wont come untill either total economic collapse, rebellion, or an invasion happens. So good luck america we are doomed, our great country has been usurped by greedy and evil individuals and we all pretty much just have to sit around and take this ride. Is worse than a lot of people will let themselves realize and its definitely worse than any of the so called News agencies will ever report.

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Reply#27 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:34 AM EDT

Don't forget the powered baby corpse aphrodisiacs.

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#27.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:27 AM EDT
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Well the solution to this problem is an easy one....might as well bomb them.

    Reply#28 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:39 AM EDT

    China saying pollution isn't that bad is like O'Bama saying the economy is getting better. minions

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    Reply#29 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:39 AM EDT

    Jack..good one!

      #29.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:16 AM EDT
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      China has been slowly creating some very severe social, ecological, political and economic time bombs for itself. Pollution is just one of them I expect that China may find itself in the grips of an economic crisis within the next 2 years, which will be followed by a political upheaval.

      The ecological issues they are creating for themselves will play out over decades.

      What price progress?

        Reply#30 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:40 AM EDT

        China is trying to tell "OUR FREE PRESS" what to report? Interesting twist here.

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        Reply#31 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:48 AM EDT

        It would be an interesting twist if that was what the story was about.

        Guess you'd have to read the article to know that though.

          #31.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:16 AM EDT

          Actually, they are trying to tell the U.S. Embassy in Beijing what information it can legally gather and then disseminate.

          I don't doubt that Beijing and other major Chinese cities make Pittsburg of the 1920s look like up state Vermont. But I have to wonder why we are making such a point of gathering and publicizing data on China's ecology. I'm sure we'd resent it if the Chinese Embassy in Washington D.C. started gathering and sharing figures on crime in that city.

          It seems to constitute a diplomatic faux pas.

            #31.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:16 AM EDT
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            Your right China why should we buy your dangerous products to support your unhealthy workers that are stealing jobs for the USA, we don't care if you are killing your people by pollution but until China figures out a way to keep that foul air under glass it goes public, why because the whole world suffers!

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            Reply#32 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:52 AM EDT

            Sorry DEn , read a little more facts. China is not stealing jobs from the US. US manufacturers, especially the Greedy ones that have to pay American lobbyists, they are voluntarily giving China Work while putting US citizens out of work and on the unemployment and welfare lines; in my opinion they are traitors to our own people and country. Buy MADE IN THE USA products first. That is the only way to Get American manufacturers to notice. buy made in the USA.

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            #32.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:15 AM EDT

            the fact is the MADE IN THE USA products don't have anymore quality than those made in China...still crap and you pay more

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            #32.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 4:39 PM EDT
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            A World economy is what all the sheep have been told they need! Our "green president" has willingly and knowingly gone along with outsourcing to Communist China ( as the Texan did before him) and is fully aware of the pollution and human rights problems there, but like the hip-hop, rock star, he is, his only goal is his re-election act.

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            Reply#33 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:53 AM EDT

            First of all the US Embassy is US territory and not subject to Chinese laws so they can monitor to their hearts content. Finally, as a farmer, the Chinese have and are now sending contaminated food to the US. If they stop polluting the food they send us maybe we will stop monitoring their air. All you folks out there who are concerned about what you eat, do not eat Chinese honey. My understanding is, it is contaminated with lead and antibiotics. The antibiotics are used on their bees, and the lead comes from their storage containers. Neither are good for you.

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            Reply#34 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:58 AM EDT

            Simply refer this matter to the U.N. for resolution, and abide by whatever the U.N. says. Simple, no? - RC

              Reply#35 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:59 AM EDT

              (The U.N. is intended to be the proper forum for resolving international disputes.) - RC

                #35.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:05 AM EDT

                Yes, Rick, the UN has such a stellar record on solving international disputes. Why hasn't anyone thought of that before? I see a Nobel Prize for peace in your future, Rick!

                  #35.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 2:50 PM EDT
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                  Tell you what US, why not pay back the trillion or so dollars you owe China. Maybe then they can use that money to reduce pollution. While you're at it consider helping Los Angeles clean up the smog.

                  More important though is look at your own standards for pollution.

                    Reply#36 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:02 AM EDT

                    You really have no concept how debt works, do you? lol

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                    #36.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:23 AM EDT
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                    awww poor china, they have it so hard. F them.

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                    Reply#37 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:03 AM EDT

                    Well said China, BUT foreign countries want to know why their diplomats are turning gray from lack of oxygen and dying of lung disease...

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                    Reply#38 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:08 AM EDT

                    With about 2/3rd's world's population living there who care's if a lot of them pass away from lung disease. They can stand to loose a couple billion people. Not only that, they filter most of their pollutants out of the air by breathing in that crap. . . kinda like human air filters for the rest of us. Their solving one of their biggest problems overpopulation by using these new human controls.

                      Reply#39 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:09 AM EDT

                      That would work if we could put a big bubble over China, but alas, they're spewing poison into the air that the world breathes and poisoning the waters that the world drinks.

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                      #39.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:22 AM EDT
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                      This is communism in action: don't fix the problem, just suppress the information or attempt to intimidate the people reporting the data. Communism is why China will never attain real greatness. It is a teeming ant hill that will eventually collapse in on itself. The veneer or Modernism that it projects is a facade, most of its teeming billions still have a standard of living akin to the 1920's if that. If you think there is a gap between the haves and have nots in the West, in China it isn't measured in difference in annual salary, but in how many decades ones standard of living is behind another.

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                      Reply#40 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:11 AM EDT

                      Yeah, they should do it the civilized way -

                      Deny science, set up think tanks to dispute the facts and staff them with paid off scientists that will say anything for money, accuse anyone that thinks different of being unamerican, and run an automaton for leader that will work diligently to remove any safeguards for the little guy to protect big business interests.

                        #40.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:20 AM EDT
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                        Little red gnats.

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                        Reply#41 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:18 AM EDT

                        If the US had required US based companies now manufacturing in China to meet our EPA guidelines, there wouldn't be a problem.

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                        Reply#42 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:20 AM EDT

                        I think the US is giving travelers a fare choice. They need to know the air is poison before making the trip.

                          Reply#43 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:22 AM EDT

                          It's gonna look like that in Detroit pretty soon.

                            Reply#44 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:31 AM EDT

                            Why? There aren't any factories there. There aren't even any people there.

                              #44.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:44 AM EDT

                              Tim W.....James is right, the Chinese Communist Govt....owns a lot of the manufacturing real estate there now. See you tube video" Global Motors" about GM

                                #44.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:01 AM EDT

                                Careful. Using facts won't change the Republicant's minds....

                                  #44.3 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:32 AM EDT
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                                  Illegal??????? Are the leaders of China seriously that insane and self conscious? It is neither illegal nor is it interfering with "China's internal affairs" as they always like to toss out. It is a service to US citizens, just as any alert or warning that China may issue to its citizens while they are abroad.

                                  The leaders are just ticked off because they don't want negative truths to ever come to light in China. They changed the sensitivity of their meters and their reported levels rose, then they had the bright idea of moving their monitoring stations to remote areas and making them mobile - "magically" their figures dropped.

                                  All you have to do is consider the quote of "...with more than one tenth of monitored rivers rated severely polluted, for example." Well, that's like saying 1/10th of the ocean is wet - SURE it is, but so is the other 90%. Their monitoring must be 90% in unpopulated areas and 10% in populated areas. Show me a river in a populated area of China that is not severely polluted, and I will show you a pink zebra.

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                                  Reply#45 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:32 AM EDT

                                  All the eastern people groups lie their head off and think it saves face. All they do is show their ass. Of course we know that our government will take up the slack and send them billions of dollars to help them clean up the air. If that does not work then just tighten up on the people of the US and make them live cleaner and it will all be OK. Just ask Obama and the groupie.

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                                  Reply#46 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:34 AM EDT

                                  Who is bull @!$%#ting who? we know china ignores what we say, we draw up the standards to make our selves feel good while china goes about their polluted way laughing at us while they make money,we lose money an we are not just doing this with china. The people that we elected are trying to pull the wool over our eye's by saying to us that we are cracking down on china to control their pollution when in reality it is futile to even try. china is now saying to the U.S. stop reporting as such. How is this possible, bad politics is how.

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                                  Reply#47 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:34 AM EDT

                                  Just remember that when you plug in that florescent light bulb that is so "green" and wonder why it is that they are only made in China!

                                  You do also realize that along the western coast of the US, they can identify just which Chinese province the pollution is coming from that is landing in the United States.

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                                  Reply#48 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:38 AM EDT

                                  If China keeps making these ridiculous demands, I believe we should refuse to borrow any more money from them.

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                                  Reply#49 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:40 AM EDT

                                  If you don't like the quality of their air stay away. As has already been said what they do with their air is none of our business.

                                    Reply#50 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:40 AM EDT

                                    That was a genius remark.

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                                    #50.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:46 AM EDT

                                    I intend to stay away. The air quality report from our embassy helped my decision.

                                      #50.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 9:03 AM EDT
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                                      If our leaders had any integrity or courage they would tell the Chinese government to kiss our butts. We have become a society of wimps. Instead we will put on the clean air glasses, and ear plugs.

                                      Hear no evil, see no evil.

                                      Bye the way the Chinese government can kiss my big fat butt. Take your toxic toys, foods, and other crap manufactured and shove it up your nasty rear ends. I would imagine that the amount of money we have borrowed from the Chinese is significant enough now that if we decided to default on those loans it could really mess up their economic future just as much as ours. If they desire to have a market to sell their goods too, and companies to keep their people employed, it might be a good idea that they close their pie hole and quit whining like little babies.

                                      This is a country that produces more counterfeit product, commits more corporate espionage, and is more corrupt than the United States Federal Government. It is hard to believe that any country could hold the distinction of lacking integrity compared to Washington DC. You all know that every politician in DC will be sucking up to the Chinese leaders and I do not get it. Look at history, when Hong Kong was given back to China it only took a few months before they decided to become a capitalist communist country. Chinese people love gambling, porn, alcohol, and western decadent life style too much to even think about trying to overthrow the United States. We could wipe out our entire debt problem by supplying prostitutes to the Chinese government leaders. They are ripe for picking. We have managed to get them drunk on money and that is the end to communism. Unfortunately, there seems to be a large portion of our society that thinks communism is cool. But as my daddy said you can't fix stupid.

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                                      Reply#51 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:40 AM EDT

                                      Better check where that computer of yours was made. And your TV, your stove, your microwave, your can opener, your alarm clock, your watch, your clothes, your...

                                        #51.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:47 AM EDT
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