It never ceases to amaze me how some people will turn to violence when their political positions are not strong enough to defend and advance through dialog with ones they disagree with. Violence only exposes how weak a person really is and / or their knowledge of their position.

Sounds like Kasdiaris took a page out of the Louisiana GOP handbook. If at first you don't succeed just beat somebody up. Maybe break some fingers, punch a woman in the face or lynch an elderly man with a fake hip. There are all sorts of options available.

Afghanistan West?

Golden Dawn said in a statement on its website that Kasidiaris had been provoked

This is the really scary part. This is the official party reply. ......She made me hit her, sound familiar ladies?

The right wing, dragging us back to the 'good ole days' where men were men and women kept their mouths shut or got beaten.

Watch the video. It is shocking. The aggressor is the looser, obviously.

His political leanings make no difference. The fact is he's a damn coward. Any man who would hit a woman, and not out of self defense, is a punk b!tch who obviously needs a good ass-whooping.

I have to agree. You only hit someone if you can't provide a sufficient enough argument to counter theirs and/or your own current viewpoint is too weak to stand on its own. When that happens you get frustrated and lash out. This guy is a buffoon, it doesn't bode well for him or his party that they support his decision to resort to violence by saying he was 'provoked'. Denying it's Neo-Nazi huh? Actions speak louder then words in this case. He must have really been upset that a woman could show him up.

He is a dirty dog

The people of Greece simply DO NOT PAY THEIR TAXES.

AND suffer no repercussions.....NOTHING, no FINES, no jail, no ARRESTS,

Alverant, you forget that the Dems have done the same thing with targets on people. How selective of a memory you choose to have. Now let's look at the threats against a Rep because he won the recall vote. Yeah, those Dems sure are peaceful people, they even slap the loser. So you can try to use spoon fed propoganda, or you can use facts and reality. I hope you choose the second option instead of your current choice.

Are you serious? Some Occupy kids just tried to blow up an Interstate bridge in Cleveland! Right here in America, not some dump like Greece. Give me a break.

Two words: Occupy Oakland. And you want to talk about threats from the Left? How about the New Black Panthers putting their thugs outside polling places and placing bounties on the head of George Zimmerman, White-Hispanic. If you want to go back farther, how about the Bolshevik Revolution, Stalin's collectivization of agriculture and liquidation of the Kulaks. Mao's Great Leap Forward (sounds like an Obama campaign slogan) was another one. Pol Pot was another Leftist who slaughtered thousands. Shall I continue? There are right-wing monsters as well, with Hitler at the top of the list, don't get me wrong, but to suggest that the political left is lilly white and has no blood on its hands demonstrates either your ignorance of history or willful, ideologically motivated blindness.

Please stop lying.

And read.

If this guy is a representative of the right wing, then Castro is a member of the left. Aside from hyperbole, which should be an obvious jab and not a serious thinking person's thought, you are comparing facism to conservatism.

Which is funny, but then don't go crying when liberals are compared to Kim Jong Il.

Note, I do it to make fun of parties. But I don't seriously believe an obviously abusive man in Greece who is a member of the FACIST party hitting a woman in the COMMUNIST party has ANYTHING to do with the right and the left in America.

But if you do, then may I recommend you go back to reading your Mein Kampf or Chinese Communist Manifesto. Because if you believe that communism and facism are representative of the right and left, then call yourself what you are.

Golden Dawn? Reminds me of "Asian Dawn" from Diehard. What a lowlife.

Are you joking? The logic of your answer Michael Capone, is similar to the reply from the Golden Dawn Party in justifying the physical attack by its spokesperson on a female political rival. "He was provoked." In both cases (your reply and Kasidiaris' reply) the reply is not only completely wrong, but strengthens the opposing sides position. In the case of taxes due to the government, it is not sufficient to protest that the wages are too low. The other taxpayers are also dealing with the same wages, yet making their payments as required. The taxes are also lower because the wages are lower. So you seem to actually confirm what imrightnotyou said in the first place. The people of Greece seem to have developed a very serious attitude of entitlement, expecting to receive without giving anything back.

Slap the whole darn bunch of them..... it still won't fix anything.

sam adams is a trroll who promotes violence against women and other rightist violence against citizens by belittling the violence with a joke .

Oh, I love the idea of "Punch a Leftist Day" :-)

Sort of like Punch and Judy but for adults.

It's never good to hit anyone 8) especially a woman unless you are being attacked.....I have absolutely no respect for this commie but she shouldn't have been hit that's unacceptable.

Like I had said, Al, and you are right. But seriously, a facist hit a communist. We are talking two, WAY BEYOND left and right groups here.

Alverant

MD, if his political leanings make no difference then maybe you can tell me about actual a similar event from the political left.

My point was to make it clear that my disgust for his actions has nothing to do with his political leanings. I wouldn't care if they said he was a member of the evil clown party. What he did deserves him a really good ass whooping. I have nothing but antipathy for any man who would strike a woman if it is not in self defense.

First get it straight that both are lefties. Commies and fascists are left philosophies. I know you've lapped up the crap US academia feeds you but think of this. If US conservative philosophy is extended it reaches libertarian philosophy. If that is extended you get to anarchy or no / absent government. If you expand US liberal philosophy, you get to socialism. Marx wrote socialism is a necessary stop on they way to communism...communism is the kissing cousin of fascism. Telling people how to live and making them comply = commies, fascists, and US liberalism. So use your head and not the terms stuffed into your head for political gain. I'm not saying conservatism leads to anarchy but if you keep cranking up the philosophy; conservatism, libertarian, anarchy. Liberal, socialism, communism / fascist. Why people refer to communism and fascists as 'right' makes no sense. US right looks for less government not more. I know it's easy to make the point some US Christians lean fascist. Perhaps. But I as a conservative (and Christian) would gladly get all 2nd amendment on any religious group trying to force their religion on US (including my own). Also anyone trying to literally force their religion on other US citizens or institutions is by definition not constitutional conservative.

Derek-381097

If this guy is a representative of the right wing, then Castro is a member of the left. Aside from hyperbole, which should be an obvious jab and not a serious thinking person's thought, you are comparing facism to conservatism.

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini
I don't know, sounds like the conservative agenda to me.

I think Derek is correct here. This really isn't comparable to the US situation (despite how we here in the US love to make everything about us). This is a Fascist a true right wing extremist lashing out. I mean its a Fascist honestly nothing he does should be shocking to anyone. To be a Fascist is to be an "out" lunatic and (to my knowledge) I don't recall anyone in Washington being to that extreme yet. And the woman who is the victim here is a Communist while she did nothing to deserve the attack and indeed nobly attempted to help a fellow panelist, she isn't representative of ANYONE in the US government.

In the US we have Democrats (center-right) and Republicans (center-right to right). We as citizens love to indulge in expanding the nuances of the US parties but they're practically identical compared the range of political choices in Europe.

Some Occupy kids just tried to blow up an Interstate bridge in Cleveland!

Erm, that wasn't Occupy kids. That was the FBI. The FBI plotted the act, recruited help, and procured the materials... then arrested the people they recruited.

http://rt.com/usa/news/cleveland-fbi-bomb-may-433/

At the end of the day, all the US Americans on here are missing the point by talking about Republicans and Democrats... both are right-wing, with the Republicans slightly more right, yet neither are quite as right as Golden Dawn. There isn't a major leftist party in the United States.

Greece where men are men and sheep are scared.

Ask how many Jewish corporations 'merged' with Adolph? Facists don't merge they hostile take over. They may allow private ownership of companies but that company is not freely running its business.

Ya Alan. Like you or I could just be minding our business and the phone rings and next thing you know I'm arrested for a bombing plot that I volunteered for but was tricked into? Under what circumstance could you be tricked into entering a bomb plot? For me there are no circumstances.

Well, Ol_Doc. You go on there and believe Mussolini. And call that credible. I'm sure you'll agree then, when someone quotes Mao and says that is the American liberal agenda. Right? Sure.

@ ray-2135361. Wrong on so many levels. But its ok, the people who happen to "spoodfeed us" know more about politics then you. Communism is far left, Fascism is far right.

I was thinking the same thing Ray (in your answer to Alan's comment). How can anybody seriously claim 'entrapment'? Wife: "It was entrapment because an FBI agent answered my ad for a hitman to kill my husband!" LOL. How can you get 'entrapped' into blowing up a bridge? If somebody came to me with explosives and asked me to blow up a bridge, I'd like to think I had the morals and the intelligence to say no. Alan can think the way he likes to think, but intelligent people know that these a$$holes were already predisposed (that means 'wanted to') to blowing up that bridge, and luckily involved the FBI when they tried to get explosives.

Gotta love apologists! He probably believes the party line; "Our guy was provoked!"

Equality will never be reached as long as violence against women is reacted to and seen as markedly different than violence against men. You are the problem, and women seem to want to have their cake and eat it too.

Oh come on people...she had it coming..she stood up and put ther hands on him first. She got what she asked for...good jop dude!

Yes, a good jop indeed. Seriously though, I'm not shocked because they already elected neo-nazis and communists.

Funny, it's the left wing that's violent over here yet somehow that is never mentioned. MSDNC, all Obama all the time.

OMG Can you imagine what this guy is like in private when there are no cameras around. He swung at her 4 times, clocked her twice. Who cares about who's right or left. It ceased to be a political issue with political sides when it became a issue of assault. And Sam Adams - he didn't just throw a glass of water at a woman, he violently attacked a woman with his fists.

"AreYouBuyingThis?" we will assume you're being sarcastic.

... MSNBC you gotta love'm ... they always give it away when they lie. This story begins with conservative throws water in the face of woman ... no info on what led up to that point.

But to MSNBC credit they did says, several paragraphes later, the woman was from the Greek Dawn political party a Goose Stepping Hiel Hilter Saluteing Nazi Fascist Socialist Commi Pig Party ... must be friends of Obama

Seig Hiel Der Furher Obama

Glad I don't need a Greek man to defend me. He just backs off and lets him her.

I would hope that y'all are intelligent enough to realize and not brainwashed to the point that you can't admit that there are good and bad people in both of our political parties. Both have nut cases. Both have politicians that have broken laws. Both have politicians that have cheated on their spouses. Both have enough skeletons to supply all the medical universities in this country w/ skeletons. This is not an issue of right or left; it's a senseless, violent attack by one person on another person because that person didn't agree you. And that's just wrong.

Michael Capone What are you talking about? They are in this problem because they didn't and still don't pay their taxes. From the rich to the poor and in between.

@ beelzebubb; MSNBC you gotta love'm ... they always give it away when they lie. This story begins with conservative throws water in the face of woman ... no info on what led up to that point.

But to MSNBC credit they did says, several paragraphes later, the woman was from the Greek Dawn political party a Goose Stepping Hiel Hilter Saluteing Nazi Fascist Socialist Commi Pig Party ... must be friends of Obama

Seig Hiel Der Furher Obama

I am shocked and dismayed that MSNBC allows people this dumb to post here at all! The GUY was from the Greek Dawn party, the woman, who he threw water in the face of, was from the 'leftist party' (polar opposite, hence the argument) and the woman he punched (four times) was from the Communist Party (she came to the defense of the first woman). No Greek (so-called) 'men' came to either woman's aid.

Please, if you can't read, don't comment, because your opinion will be worthless!

Just think, these lunatics are making the laws over there. And I bet that if the common folk get out of line, they are going to get worse than a few slaps or some water poured on them. Good luck with that common greek folks

All over Europe, and especially in Greece, the right-wingers and their budget cuts have been demonstrated to be massive failures and have made the situation much much worse. Social democrats and various left-wingers are coming in everywhere except Germany and France (who started the mess in the first place and still insist that everyone play by their rules or they will take "their" euro and go home.) In Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal, Italy, The Netherlands, Belgium, Britain and other countries voters are saying that it is okay if France and Germany leave as long as they take the right wingers with them as punishment.

Translation: "YOU LIE!!"

I think that Beelzebubb would be the typical republican voter presently. It seems there is a segment in any population that would be considered the "low information" voter and I feel the Republicans have the majority of those voters.

Oh ROFLLL, Markle. Low informations voters are Republicans??? That is TOOOO funny!

What it comes down to is whether you're a democrat, republican, fascist, communist, anarchist, whatever... if you behave like this idiot you not only shouldn't have ANY power to make decisions, but you should be thrown into a jail cell with a large man who will hit you back. We miss the reality when we start debating ideology.

TO: Re@son@ble in MD who wrote:

"His political leanings make no difference..."

Why not, that's what he was fighting about, because he wanted his way and obviously refused to accept any disagreement. Had it not been about his "political leanings" and their political differences, he probably wouldn't have beat her up.

It certainly makes a big difference to me because that guy is a lot like the far right here too, who have not only made threats but have actually shot some Dems, stalled our Economic Recovery, and threatened civil war if they don't get their way.

Maybe the meaning is lost on those who tend to turn a blind eye at all things they don't want to face, but it's not lost on the woman who got her but kicked by a man over a politicial disagreement.

Obama/Biden 2012

You have that right marklepew, a recent Yale University study showed that Fox Viewers were the least informed news viewers and NPR's were the most informed, when asked 10 questions regarding domestic and international current events Fox viewers got only 1 out of 10 correct which was considerably less that those respondents that watched no news at all.

And here's why.....

14 ways Fox spreads misinformation.

1. Panic Mongering. This goes one step beyond simple fear mongering. With
panic mongering, there is never a break from the fear. The idea is to terrify
and terrorize the audience during every waking moment. From Muslims to swine flu
to recession to homosexuals to immigrants to the rapture itself, the belief over
at Fox seems to be that if your fight-or-flight reflexes aren't activated, you
aren't alive. This of course raises the question: why terrorize your own
audience? Because it is the fastest way to bypasses the rational brain. In other
words, when people are afraid, they don't think rationally. And when they can't
think rationally, they'll believe anything.

2. Character Assassination/Ad
Hominem. Fox does not like to waste time debating the idea. Instead, they prefer
a quicker route to dispensing with their opponents: go after the person's
credibility, motives, intelligence, character, or, if necessary, sanity. No
category of character assassination is off the table and no offense is beneath
them. Fox and like-minded media figures also use ad hominem attacks not just
against individuals, but entire categories of people in an effort to discredit
the ideas of every person who is seen to fall into that category, e.g.
"liberals," "hippies," "progressives" etc. This form of argument - if it can be
called that - leaves no room for genuine debate over ideas, so by definition, it
is undemocratic. Not to mention just plain crass.

3.
Projection/Flipping. This one is frustrating for the viewer who is trying to
actually follow the argument. It involves taking whatever underhanded tactic
you're using and then accusing your opponent of doing it to you first. We see
this frequently in the immigration discussion, where anti-racists are accused of
racism, or in the climate change debate, where those who argue for human causes
of the phenomenon are accused of not having science or facts on their side. It's
often called upon when the media host finds themselves on the ropes in the
debate.

4. Rewriting History. This is another way of saying that
propagandists make the facts fit their worldview. The Downing Street Memos on
the Iraq war were a classic example of this on a massive scale, but it happens
daily and over smaller issues as well. A recent case in point is Palin's
mangling of the Paul Revere ride, which Fox reporters have bent over backward to
validate. Why lie about the historical facts, even when they can be demonstrated
to be false? Well, because dogmatic minds actually find it easier to reject
reality than to update their viewpoints. They will literally rewrite history if
it serves their interests. And they'll often speak with such authority that the
casual viewer will be tempted to question what they knew as fact.

5.
Scapegoating/Othering. This works best when people feel insecure or scared. It's
technically a form of both fear mongering and diversion, but it is so pervasive
that it deserves its own category. The simple idea is that if you can find a
group to blame for social or economic problems, you can then go on to a) justify
violence/dehumanization of them, and b) subvert responsibility for any harm that
may befall them as a result.

6. Conflating Violence With Power and
Opposition to Violence With Weakness. This is more of what I'd call a
"meta-frame" (a deeply held belief) than a media technique, but it is manifested
in the ways news is reported constantly. For example, terms like "show of
strength" are often used to describe acts of repression, such as those by the
Iranian regime against the protesters in the summer of 2009. There are several
concerning consequences of this form of conflation. First, it has the potential
to make people feel falsely emboldened by shows of force - it can turn wars into
sporting events. Secondly, especially in the context of American politics,
displays of violence - whether manifested in war or debates about the Second
Amendment - are seen as noble and (in an especially surreal irony) moral.
Violence become synonymous with power, patriotism and piety.

7. Bullying.
This is a favorite technique of several Fox commentators. That it continues to
be employed demonstrates that it seems to have some efficacy. Bullying and
yelling works best on people who come to the conversation with a lack of
confidence, either in themselves or their grasp of the subject being discussed.
The bully exploits this lack of confidence by berating the guest into submission
or compliance. Often, less self-possessed people will feel shame and anxiety
when being berated and the quickest way to end the immediate discomfort is to
cede authority to the bully. The bully is then able to interpret that as a
"win."

8. Confusion. As with the preceding technique, this one works best
on an audience that is less confident and self-possessed. The idea is to
deliberately confuse the argument, but insist that the logic is airtight and
imply that anyone who disagrees is either too dumb or too fanatical to follow
along. Less independent minds will interpret the confusion technique as a form
of sophisticated thinking, thereby giving the user's claims veracity in the
viewer's mind.

9. Populism. This is especially popular in election years.
The speakers identifies themselves as one of "the people" and the target of
their ire as an enemy of the people. The opponent is always "elitist" or a
"bureaucrat" or a "government insider" or some other category that is not the
people. The idea is to make the opponent harder to relate to and harder to
empathize with. It often goes hand in hand with scapegoating. A common logical
fallacy with populism bias when used by the right is that accused "elitists" are
almost always liberals - a category of political actors who, by definition,
advocate for non-elite groups.

10. Invoking the Christian God. This is
similar to othering and populism. With morality politics, the idea is to declare
yourself and your allies as patriots, Christians and "real Americans" (those are
inseparable categories in this line of thinking) and anyone who challenges them
as not. Basically, God loves Fox and Republicans and America. And hates taxes
and anyone who doesn't love those other three things. Because the speaker has
been benedicted by God to speak on behalf of all Americans, any challenge is
perceived as immoral. It's a cheap and easy technique used by all totalitarian
entities from states to cults.

11. Saturation. There are three components
to effective saturation: being repetitive, being ubiquitous and being
consistent. The message must be repeated cover and over, it must be everywhere
and it must be shared across commentators: e.g. "Saddam has WMD." Veracity and
hard data have no relationship to the efficacy of saturation. There is a
psychological effect of being exposed to the same message over and over,
regardless of whether it's true or if it even makes sense, e.g., "Barack Obama
wasn't born in the United States." If something is said enough times, by enough
people, many will come to accept it as truth. Another example is Fox's own
slogan of "Fair and Balanced."

12. Disparaging Education. There is an
emerging and disturbing lack of reverence for education and intellectualism in
many mainstream media discourses. In fact, in some circles (e.g. Fox), higher
education is often disparaged as elitist. Having a university credential is
perceived by these folks as not a sign of credibility, but of a lack of it. In
fact, among some commentators, evidence of intellectual prowess is treated
snidely and as anti-American. Education and other evidence of being trained in
critical thinking are direct threats to a hive-mind mentality, which is why they
are so viscerally demeaned.

13. Guilt by Association. This is a favorite
of Glenn Beck and Andrew Breitbart, both of whom have used it to decimate the
careers and lives of many good people. Here's how it works: if your cousin's
college roommate's uncle's ex-wife attended a dinner party back in 1984 with
Gorbachev's niece's ex-boyfriend's sister, then you, by extension are a
communist set on destroying America. Period.

14. Diversion. This is
where, when on the ropes, the media commentator suddenly takes the debate in a
weird but predictable direction to avoid accountability. This is the point in
the discussion where most Fox anchors start comparing the opponent to Saul
Alinsky or invoking ACORN or Media Matters, in a desperate attempt to win
through guilt by association. Or they'll talk about wanting to focus on "moving
forward," as though by analyzing the current state of things or God forbid, how
we got to this state of things, you have no regard for the future. Any attempt
to bring the discussion back to the issue at hand will likely be called
deflection, an ironic use of the technique of projection/flipping.

This guy is garbage and needs to be hunted down and punished for what he did to both women.

TO: Futureshock2012 who wrote:

"What it comes down to is whether you're a democrat, republican, fascist, communist, anarchist, whatever... if you behave like this idiot you not only shouldn't have ANY power to make decisions, but you should be thrown into a jail cell with a large man who will hit you back. We miss the reality when we start debating ideology."

The FACT remains that ONLY Right Wing Wackos behave that way, this guy is one them, so was everybody who shot someone in the face on a hunting trip (D. Cheney); the guy who shot the Dem Congresswoman, and all the rest of the violent wackos around the world, ALL RIGHT WING WACKOS.

Can you name even ONE Democrat who resulted to violence over his/her political differences? NO.

Obama/Biden 2012

No American Girl, the only people who act like this are jerks. Democrats and or Republican can be jerks. How stupid you statement is.

OUT with Obama

Wasn't it a rightwing judge in Wisconsin that choked a Liberal female judge? wasn't it a rightwing congressman from the south somewhere who said he hunted and killed liberals at his private whites only hunting camp? isn't the right wing wackos on here right now that are advocating having "punch a leftist day"?

TO: Haroldwolf who wrote:

"Oh, I love the idea of "Punch a Leftist Day" :-)..."

That's funny to you? No wonder "right wing wacko" caught on.

Obama/Biden 2012

Out with Deborah! A fascist twit is a fascist twit, whatever the hairdo.

The right wing ah()le in the vid will probably get a job offer from Rand Paul. Three or four slaps and punches are so much more cinematic that stepping on a woman's face.

Thank you JimD. Your message, is all misspelled in the most important places. I'll just stick around and see if you can learn to spell better later.

I'm not a Republican. I'm a listener, I listen to the facts and then vote accordingly. There is no one to vote for this term either.

Our with Obama

Deborah:

Your message, is all misspelled in the most important places. I'll just stick around and see if you can learn to spell better later.

Our with Obama

People in glass houses, and all that.

You also didn't need a comma after "message" in the first quot, but I'll let you off with that as it's not spelling, but punctuation/grammar.

I do believe she just got challenged to a duel.

The only difference between this guy and members of our own republican party is this guys suit is taylored.

I honestly think that we're not far from violence here. Watch the eruption of violence if Zimmerman gets acquited. The MSM has fanned the racial flames and purposefully misrepresented the Martin kid as a cherub. His Facebook posts and school suspension records belie a totally different persona. It'll be like Rodney King all over again. That's why I have a concealed carry permit. When the mob tries to pull me out of my vehicle, a dozen of them are going to be very, very surprised. Too, when conservatives stop the free lunches that deadbeats have been living on for generations, there will also be rioting. Those people have developed such an entitlement mentality, that they'll loot whatever's in sight. Lock and load folks.

Sounds like our Tea Party brethren.... hot head, disrespectful....

"Alverant you want several examples of violence with democrats. Just watch any episode of cops. I would bet my life they are almost 90% democrats"

Kind of like Hitler was a "Christian".

I don't know why you people call those on the right aggressive. Just because they blow up abortion clinics, shoot doctors, blow up federal buildings, talk about using the second amendment rights to settle arguments, strongly defend black child shooter Zimmerman, etc. doesn't mean anything. It's all leftist propaganda.

Alverant you want several examples of violence with democrats. Just watch any episode of cops. I would bet my life they are almost 90% democrats

The difference is the fact those are not politically motivated on top of that you don't even know if they have a political preference since you are type casting. You have domestic violence and crime from all sides of the political spectrum.

Hah, and I didn't realize I missed the e off quote till it was too late to edit!

Ray 213****, you seem very confused about the difference between Socialism, on the extreme left of the political spectrum and Fascism on the extreme right. They are antitheses of each other.

Communism, a branch of Socialism, is a socioeconomic structure based on the social movement and political ideology that advocates the need to abolish class structure calling for a common control of the property.
Fascism is a political ideology revolving around the concept of authoritarian nationalism, which advocates the need to organize a nation based on the corporatist perspectives and values. “As far as the political inclination is concerned, it is regarded to be on the extreme right in the left-right political spectrum.” This radical ideology was propounded by Mussolini.
Nazism is a particular form of fascism. Nazism is anti-Communistic and is opposed to democracy. However, there are some differences between Nazism and Fascism. Nazi is an abbreviation of Nationalism. The Nazi government was racist and only wanted certain people, that is the German white race, to help accomplish their goal.
The National Socialist Movement that propelled Hitler into power only used the word “socialist” to gain popular vote during the severe recession of the time. Once in power, Hitler revealed a staunch Nationalist intent to eradicate the Jewish race and any other non-Aryan peoples he deemed impure. Nationalism and Fascism could not be further from Socialism and Communism. Many of the French Resistance spent years in concentration camps for turning to communism. When the Russian Armies pushed the Nazis back into Berlin, there was no mercy shown between the two political extremes.

No one is rich or poor in a communist system. Whereas, when Hitler was released from prison in 1924, he had the equivalent of $15 in his pocket; by the early 1940’s he and Goring had accumulated vast personal fortunes in gold and artwork. A significant difference in philosophies.
To call anyone a Socialist and a Fascist makes absolutely no sense.

Communism vs fascism http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-communism-and-fascism/

Seriously, what did they think was gonna happen when they got neo-Nazi's and Commies together on the same talk show?

I'll say this though, more people would follow politics if there was more of this sort of misbehavior. That's not a good thing. . .but you know it's true.

Belfast Lad said:

"No one is rich or poor in a communist system."

Perhaps not in a theoretical communist system. But then, no one has ever acheived a theoretical communist system. Human nature and ambition keep getting in the way, and you end up with facism/dictatorship in the guise of communism. In the versions of communism seen so far in this world, there certainly ARE rich and poor. The vast majority being poor, and the communist party leaders (and those connected to them) being rich.

American politics is boring. Greek Politics is Juicy.

TO: Debora-389330 who wrote:

"No American Girl, the only people who act like this are jerks. Democrats and or Republican can be jerks..."

The story isn't about "jerks" it's about politicians and what right wing politicians do when they have political differences, but it doesn't surprise me when "lie and deny" Republicans do anything and everything to deny responsibility for who and what they are.

Now show me even ONE story where any Democrat pummels somebody for disagreeing with them.

My guess is you never even read the article.

Obama/Biden 2012

Don't confuse the European far right with the American far right. Both ends of the European spectrum are big government, big entitlement, big spending and big control.... Communist vs. Fascist.

The American far right is small Constitutional government, which is hardly big government.

Way to propagandize there, MSNBC.

a woman and a liberal who speaks her mind - why not just put a big target sign on her forehead?? Nazis, Taliban, Tea Party: take your pick - they'll all take us back to the middle ages....

Fed Up "Too, when conservatives stop the free lunches that deadbeats have been living on for generations, there will also be rioting"

the sad thing is, you dont realize MOST of them are white conservatives in the south.

statistics are important, but so are total numbers...and whites on welfare outnumber blacks on welfare, and MANY of them are republicans.

stop the medicare gravy train too...and you'll see white republican rage like never before.

*Edited to add - and this actually would never happen, because Walmart would go bankrupt, and they would NEVER let politicians let that happen.

you do realize, those welfare checks go SOMEWHERE right? and business profit off of it...right?

furthermore, republicans are all talk and no action - they would NEVER actually do what you want them to do. they just pander to folks like you, then when elected do nothing - and YOU stop paying attention, and then a democrat gets elected, and the right starts howling again...ignoring that for the time THEY had control THEY did nothing.

I think George Bush's 8 years PROVE this.

heynow "The American far right is small Constitutional government, which is hardly big government."

I think those people consider themselves LIBERTARIANS, not republicans.

But even still, small constitutional govt isnt possible - it becomes the wild west. in theory, it sounds great. in practice, well...see all 3rd world countries - those are "small govts" and the nation is suffering for it.

how do you start a business, when anyone could roll up and rob you and there's no police force to stop them, hunt them down, or hold them accountable?

show me a nation that operates "small govt" and is successful - and i'll consider it.

until then, it's pure theory.

Yashmak, you are exactly right!

The communist socioeconomic structure works really well until the dictator rises to the top: Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Belfast "No one is rich or poor in a communist system"

I am a left leaner, but this is just flat out ignorant. Have you not studied history?

Thats how it's peddled, but thats NEVER how it pans out. You can look at quite a few communist nations in existance today and see that to be clear as day.

What you say is akin to someone who supports pure capitalism as saying "In a Capitalist nation, you're only poor if you choose to be" - and thats not even REMOTELY close to accurate.

Kids dont chose to be poor, they are born into it - and often times, struggle MIGHTLY to escape it. Whereas, kids born into wealth in a pure capitalist society have the fastest track to remain wealthy, with very little work - doors simply open for the, whereas it seems doors always close on the poor.

True, a poor person CAN make it in a capitalist society, the odds just arent that great.

And the reality is, if EVERYONE did what needed to be done to "get rich" in a capitalist society, it couldnt work. People HAVE to be poor in order for others to be filty rich.

it's why you always here republicans say that you cant take from the rich and give to the poor, because then everyone is poor...translation: they hoard all the marbles and now it, it's on you to do as they do or shut the heck up.

I dont want to live in a pure capitalist society or a pure communist/socialist society.

I prefer a hi-bred, where hard work and innovation are rewarded, but not to the gross point that it currently is. NO ONE can work so hard or be so innovative as to EARN billions of dollars. PERIOD.

our current problems are 100% about wealth inequality, and the super rich believing just because they have more doesnt mean they should pay more...f that.

they want to live in and prosper off an advanced society, they just dont want to support it. REALITY.

who would you rather be - the person making $15K and paying 0 taxes...or the person making 1 billion and paying 50% taxes?

Oh but that billionare republican will cry til the cows come home about that poor person not "paying their fair share". unreal.

ray-2135361, if you are getting your information from your brain, it is defective. If you are getting your information from Fux Spews, you are making a mistake so large everything is defective.

Today's Republicans are neo-fascists. Read Mussolini's definitions: you'll find one that fits most of them with absolute perfection.

Hitler's version was called National Socialism for the same reason that Republican liars run as Democrats in various state primaries: to confuse people who can't read.

Jessica, you are right on the money. It's so simple yet as the Bush administration announced, "reality is irrelevant. We make our own reality."

Mittsy, the latest incarnation of counter-reality, lies every time he opens his mouth; the guy even lies about what he said he believed last week, last month, or last year. Even when he said it in front of a video camera.

Looks more like to me that the woman to his left was poking bears with sticks.

She shouldn't have swatted a pissed off man with a paper.

Yeah, that's an awesome excuse to beat up on an old woman. What the @!$%# are you on, champ?

He is a coward, just like the Greek guy who struck that woman. Right wing neo-fascists are all the same.

This is sort of like the caning of Charles Sumner who had the nerve to oppose SLAVERY back before the Civil War. Wonder who's side the Teabags would be on for that one too????

@American Girl-724855

I don't know how Greek politics work. I don't think it's comparable to American politics. I saw the video, and it made my blood boil. What he did was wrong, and if I happened to have been there he would have found himself looking up at the ceiling. And it wouldn't have mattered what political affiliation he had. He had no right to strike her! Repeatedly! I guess you can say I take personal issue with any male (not a man at all) who would strike a woman or child for any reason other than true self defense.

No this story is about an IDIOT who has no self control. I see a lot of that in politics. Lies, stealing, now physical abuse. The thing that bothers me is that there is a man getting 3 swings in at a woman and only one man is moving fast enough to even try to stop him.

You all see politics, I see abuse. But then again the violence on TV has got so many people use to abuse that you don't even register that. You just look at YOUR political views on things.

I don't like Democrats or Republicans. They are all a bunch of self centered egotistical pains in the butt. No one seems to care about their country any more just some party affiliation.

Jessica: My remark was in reference to socio-economic systems - not history. You and Yashmak are absolutely correct in that the manifesto never works because of absolute power corrupting absolutely.

However, if you were to do a little poli-sci research instead of accusing me of not doing my homework, the communist system intends to be stateless with everyone being equal in wealth. Doomed to failure from the start!

Could the other "males" at the table moved any slower to help the poor lady out??? I don't think so!!! Growing up with sisters the first lesson I remember my Dad teaching me was a man NEVER EVER hits a woman. THE SECOND LESSON I LEARNED IS DON'T PISS THE LADY'S OFF. SOME OF THEM WILL KICK YOUR A$$!!! The dude is a PUNK AND A COWARD!!!

Sadly, his supporters are of the same mindset. At least it's nice to know that the United States isn't the only country with radical right nutcases seeking public office.

Kinda like the radical right nutcase that slapped Tom Barrett for conceding too early...Oh wait, she was a supporter so she gets a pass so as not to dirty our reputation of being "tolerant" and "loving". Its only the right that acts that way...

Shooting doctors, blowing up clinnics, beating gays to death. Damn dirty liberals.

I would hope that y'all are intelligent enough to realize and not brainwashed to the point that you can't admit that there are good and bad people in both of our political parties. Both have nut cases. Both have politicians that have broken laws. Both have politicians that have cheated on their spouses. Both have enough skeletons to supply all the medical universities in this country w/ skeletons. This is not an issue of right or left; it's a senseless, violent attack by one person on another person because that person didn't agree you. And that's just wrong.

Did you actually *watch* the video? Here's what happened:

1. He tosses a glass of water at the woman across the table.

2. The woman next to him hits him first.

3. He hits her back.

4. Back and forth commences.

He struck out at a woman that had hit *him* unprovoked. She was not otherwise initially involved. So, yes, he was provoked and yes, she did invite the attack. Did he behave poorly? Yes. Everyone involved did. But, do not place the blame solely on the man, because he's a man and he hit a woman.

@ B, I think you are giving these people on here way to much credit and insight bud. I am constantly amazed at the idiots on these comment threads who tow party lines (from both parties) and continue to try and act like their party is better than the other and have provided none of the problems that currently afflict us......it is like reading 1984.

Diaphanein it actually looks like she swung at him with a towel or something but missed then he hit her.

2. The woman next to him hits him first.

3. He hits her back.

4. Back and forth commences.

He struck out at a woman that had hit *him* unprovoked. She was not otherwise initially involved. So, yes, he was provoked and yes, she did invite the attack. Did he behave poorly? Yes. Everyone involved did. But, do not place the blame solely on the man, because he's a man and he hit a woman.

She took a swipe at him with a newspaper, the same kind of thing you might do if your kid did something out of order and you happened to have a newspaper to hand.

He then tried to hit her in the face a number of times.

Not quite the same, is it?

In fact, it kind of looks like she tried to knock something out of his hand. Perhaps something else he was going to throw at the other woman he had already thrown water at?

Even if she did hit him first it doesn't matter because throwing water in someones face is an assault and she looked like she was trying to keep him away from her when she swung at him.

diaphanein said "2. The woman next to him hits him first."

You're lying. Much like mittsy and other republikkkans, you are lying about something everyone can see. She brushed at him with a newspaper - and that newspaper wasn't even rolled up. It would not have injured a fly. He in return slapped her in the face, punched her in the face, and slapped her again in the face.

As so often happens here and elsewhere, we have another demonstration that right wingers lie all the time about everything, no matter what.

Excuse me, look at the Tea Party vs the Occupy WS and tell me which is more civil.

i think ows up-risings only started when they began to give the tea party '' THE GREEN LIGHT '' , and encriminating ows by giving them '' THE RED LIGHT '' !!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW GO FIGURE '' CHICKEN '' !!!!!!

alle, OWS has been more civil. At least they don't have to make things up for their outrage. A teabagger threatened my life because I dared to ask him for proof behind his claims. You don't get that with OWS.

Hmm...where did we see the news articles about windows being smashed, people being raped and murdered, fighting with police, and many other things? Oh yeah, it was the OWS. All you have Alverant is your words, I have multiple news articles backing up the violence of the OWS. Let me show you how easy it is to do what you did.

I walked by an OWS park and had knives and guns pulled on me because I was going to work. They were pissed that I bothered to work for my money and said I should join them by quiting my job and asking for free hand-outs.

pzphiml,

I remember the tea party types showing up to rallys with assault rifles. I also feel you lie like a rug when saying the OWS pulled guns and knives on you. You'd have to go home to change your pants if it was true.

@ Alverant - When asking an OWS representative about some of thier claims I was told "No one who thinks like you do should even have the right to exist!" I hadn't even stated anything I believe, just asked about the philosophy behind thiers.

"You don't get that with OWS". Yeah. Right. LIAR!

Allegroman - Occupy is peacful, they only respond in kind when being oppressed by the facist right.

OWS demonstrations had a few jerks who broke windows and set fires. Tea Party rallies had a few jerks who carried guns and racist signs. Let's not judge a movement by the few jerks who just want to make trouble and divide us. If we look at the messages behind each group we'll discover the have more in common than they differ!

JRR you stand to be a wealthy man. As I understand it any proof of what you say about TP and racist signs = big cash reward. Yet to be collected because all that is crap and made up. Zero truth and zero proof. The only racist violence occurred when lefties beat down a black tea party guy.

People, in all fairness you get overzealous nutjobs on BOTH sides. Fortunately, they're the minority, but they also happen to be very loud, obnoxious, and therefore very noticeable groups. Reality is somewhere in between and where most of us fall. Painting the opposition in broad generalizations as if every one of them is an ignorant, violent twit is neither true nor fair. The Limbaughs and Olbermanns of this world have done us no favors and serve only to divide us. They are, consciously or not, doing evil and the wisest thing we can do would be to sift their words carefully and objectively or ignore them outright, but in any case make every effort to educate ourselves and form our own opinions. In nowise should we adopt their brand of hatred or blindly spew their rhetoric. There are some of you who genuinely hold your political beliefs like a grudge, "The other side is evil. They've wronged me somehow..." Last I checked, we're all Americans, so let's can the paranoid victim malarkey, shall we?

@Alverant

alle, OWS has been more civil.

LOL! HAD been more civil, in the very beginning, maybe. But that is long gone, only the fruitcakes are left and they are anything but civil.

At least they don't have to make things up for their outrage. A teabagger threatened my life because I dared to ask him for proof behind his claims. You don't get that with OWS.

Right, because with OWS you'd be shouted down by the mob before you'd even get the chance to ask your question.

Yes, JRR, that 99% of the Tea party just ruins it for ALL the rest of them.

damn straight.. i love beating the living hell out of liberals .. it is a blast.. i like to punch them in the face as hard as i can just for the fun of it .. they are so stupid they don't even fight back..

Remember the Tea Party will take this country back with ballots or bullets. What states are moving forward with voter suppression? Also, remember the lady with her head stepped on after being pushed to the ground? The Tea Party/Republicans advocate violence all the time.

tony tyler, try that with me. I'll make you my bitch.

@ roosterface- Occupy is more civil than the tea buggers. Period.

tilly tyler would prove the case against the right, but it is an armless legless homunculus that types with a round rubber thing it holds in its mouth.

Ray, there are a few racists in the TP, I've met some of them. To claim they don't exist is based on your desire to believe that the "liberal media" is lying to you. If you think about, this proves that they do exist and you're one them.

@slightlyold

Remember the Tea Party will take this country back with ballots or bullets. What states are moving forward with voter suppression? Also, remember the lady with her head stepped on after being pushed to the ground? The Tea Party/Republicans advocate violence all the time.

All the time? You've got two examples, one was hyperbole the other was provoked. Meanwhile OWS has literally caused millions of dollars of damage in various cities across the country. OWS show up to "protest" wearing gas masks and carrying shields. Robberies, rapes, vandalism, didn't see ANY of that happening at Tea Party rallies. The idea that the Tea Party is more violent than OWS is beyond laughable. Anyone trying to make that case has their blinders pulled so tight they've started to cut off circulation to their brain.

Alverant

alle, OWS has been more civil. At least they don't have to make things up for their outrage. A teabagger threatened my life because I dared to ask him for proof behind his claims. You don't get that with OWS.

Unbelieveable the blinders you must be wearing to think this statement is in any way true Alverant.

Did the Tea Party make up the rapid expansion of government during Obama's term? No. Did they make up the even faster expansion of spending? No. Did they make up the cronyism that puts even the Bush years to shame? No. Did they make up the large, and lasting unpopularity of Obamacare? No. Did they make up general dissatisfaction with the status quo in Washington DC? No.

These are the pillars of the Tea Party movement, and none of those things are made up. What WAS made up, was early NYT reports that the Tea Party was racist, poorly educated, etc. etc. It was later shown that none of this was true, that in fact the Tea Party was more highly educated than the average American, was more likely to be employed, and that almost every case the charges or racism were either unsupported by any objective evidence, or had in fact been staged by folks attempting to discredit the Tea Party.

Moreover, the Tea Party left its protest venues cleaner than when they arrived. It was not marked by drug use, or occurrences of sexual assault. The same cannot be said of the OWS folks. Oh, and no one associated with the Tea Party ever planned to blow up a public bridge, defecated on a police car, broke out the windows of local businesses, or prevented wage earners from reaching their jobs.

Your version of 'more civil' must come from the topsy-turvey reverso-dictionary. Oh wait, your single-case anecdotal evidence sweeps aside ALL OF THE ABOVE.

Here is a photograph of one of the founders of the Tea Party taken at a rally. The photograph nicely illustrates the hateful political ideology upon which this failed political movement was founded:

http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader

OWS protesters are morons. Their protests are very unorganized and always end up in violence. Tea party protests are organized and NOT violent. You don't see Tea Party protesters breaking windows, setting fires, or raping people. Also, Tea Party protesters at least have the courtesy of taking a shower before they protest, unlike the OWS protesters who smell like crap.

Teabaggers are idiots and cowards. They don't even know where Greece is or that it's a country!!! (they think it's "grease" and get all confused....)

Then it's the failed ideology of the Tea Party that smells, not the pampered racists who embrace it, right, Random?

"not the pampered racists who embrace it"

Why do you Liberals always say Republicans are racist? Hermain Cain is a Republican, so how can he be a racist against himself?

Random,

Herman Cain: theyz always some chickens that'll support good ole Col. Saunders (so to speak). Theyz think theyz'll get special treatment or something...

randomdummy wrote about OWS: "Their protests are very unorganized and always end up in violence."

You seem to have no contact with reality. Does anyone believe anything you say or write? Does your wife/girlfriend/boyfriend/same sex partner?

@ Sailcat - that pic is not even a tenth of it. By accident, during the election of '08 I got on a tea bagger mailing list. The endless slew of racist pictures and racist jokes about Obama was sickening - sa_mbo, jungle bunny, witch doctor, spear chucker, and of course the n-word - any racist image or phrase you have ever seen or heard they had turned into their own private "campaign literature."

Any one who claims the "Tea Party" is made up of principled, small government patriots is lying. It is made up of remnants of the KKK, the John Birch Society, the Knights of the White Camelia, and various other hysterically racist hate groups who have been solidly Republikkkan since the civil rights laws of the mid-sixties.

"randomdummy"

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you talk like a 13 year old?

randomdummy,

Because most people can read more than one word at a sitting.

@Sailcat-2064101

Yeah check out this clown and tell us all its the Tea Party that are ignorant racists

WeIStheTeaParty-Herman Cain: theyz always some chickens that'll support good ole Col. Saunders (so to speak). Theyz think theyz'll get special treatment or something...

Please do click on his screen name and check out his other posts.

"Why do you Liberals always say Republicans are racist?"

Because the framers of your hateful political ideology are public racists, as the photo to which I posted a link attests. To spell it out for you, the picture shows Dale Robertson, one of the main founders of the blighted Tea Party movement hold a sign with the N word painted on it. Dale also is the operator of TeaParty.org, the main on-line organ of the movement. Since he is a leader of a hateful, intolerant, greedy, bigoted movement, it stands to reason the followers of that movement embrace those filthy principles.

http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader

@Sailcat-2064101

Because the framers of your hateful political ideology are public racists, as the photo to which I posted a link attests. To spell it out for you, the picture shows Dale Robertson, one of the main founders of the blighted Tea Party movement hold a sign with the N word painted on

You better sit down before you get dizzy from all that spinning. The sign says-Congress=slaveowners Taxpayers=(N-word). He's not using that word to reference anyones race so claiming that just using the word makes someone a racist is a bit of a stretch. Clearly it was a poor choice of words since "slaves" would have gotten the point across but it was clearly chosen to get as much attention as possible, which it obviously did since people are still talking about it 3 years later.

Tea Party vs OWS in terms of civility can be summed up in one simple question. If you're walking down the street with your child and you come upon a protest, which group is more likely to make you decide to turn around and walk the other way? The answer is obvious even if some here won't be honest and admit it.

The fact that your hero can use a racial epithet to make an irrelevant point highlights his utter disregard to his personal racism and poor character. Furthermore, the fact that you are so eager to defend him indicates you share his hateful, ignorant principles. Not that anyone would be surprised, of course. Integrity and moral courage are not principles embraced by Republicans, sadly.

Backcountry164

we are with you brother... great minds think alike I'm a guessin.. Hey maybe wez related... are you all from down south???

@Sailcat-2064101

He's not my hero, I'd never even heard of him before. I'm not defending him, what he said was stupid. I agree with the Tea Party message of fiscal responsibility and smaller government because I'm a libertarian and held that philosophy all through the Bush years when the republicans were more than willing to increase both spending and the size of government. Aside from that I have nothing in common with Tea Party types nor do I especially care for them, far too many bible-thumpers for my taste.

My comments here are based on one thing, I find it fcking disgusting how so many liberals throw out the race card in an effort to discredit those whom they disagree with. The idea that you only hate the Tea Party because you think they are racist is beyond laughable. If you have such a problem with that sort of ignorance why not say something to your asinine buddy WeIStheTeaParty? You hate the Tea Party so you pick out isolated incidents by isolated individuals and you use them to paint the whole group as something disgusting. You calling out anyone for being a racist is the ultimate in hypocrisy because what you do is every bit as bad. Racism is disgusting because it is based hatred, just like your comments about the Tea Party. Hate is hate whether it is based on the race of another or their philosophy.

Oh here come all the "macho" guys with their threats!

He is Greece's version of the US republican party.

Greece's right wing nutjobs attack a woman and the party's response is "she made him do it".

Our right wing nutjob party attacks woman's rights and will never apologize for it.

Their right wing nutjob party says the Holocaust never happened, contrary to overwhelming evidence that it did.

Our right wing nutjob party says global warming is a myth, despite evidence that is so overwhelming insurance companies and our own military account for it.

I guess the lesson here is no matter where in the world you are, right wingers are a delusional woman hating group of nutjobs.

Try actually watching the video.

The woman in orange (that that MSNBC vaguely defines as a "leftist party member") is screaming at the guy across the table. We don't know WHAT she says because MSNBC (conveniently) doesn't provide a translation for THAT part. Whatever it is that she said got the response she seemed to be seeking.

Then, the fat Communist Party woman seated next to the guy takes a swing at him and comes after him.

I think I'll reserve judgement until I can see video of the ENTIRE incident with translations of ALL the comments made.

Notice the woman, that was screaming at the guy, and the others sitting across the table watching calmly and without expression. It seems to be a table full of Leftists provoking a confrontation. You know, kind of like Obama told his union thugs to go to Tea Party rallys and "confront them".

It's a typical left-wing tactic; get several "fellow travelers" together with a single person of the opposing party and try to provoke a reaction that can be used as propaganda.

It could have been a CNN "panel discussion".

Foolishness, so you think there is an excuse for hitting a woman without being physically provoked? Provide an example of when hitting a woman who has not physically harmed you in any way is okay.

foolishness (your name fits you): "The woman in orange (that that MSNBC vaguely defines as a "leftist party member") is screaming at the guy across the table"

So all you need do is yell at me--and it's ok for me to hit you? Hmmmm... C'mon!! You're advocating for behavior of children--not adults. Grow up!!!

To anyone interested, someone from Greece transcribed the audio though it may not be 100% correct as another person from Greece noted that additional slanders were missing from the Nazi dude. Go to YouTube and plug this in /watch?v=GFmroBsfGRY.

She probably deserved to be popped! You know many women hide behind the rule of "no one hits a woman" - so they think they have free reign to hit, be rude and provoke action because they won't be tagged! Well - Surprise Fat Mamma!

@Segdirb and @foolishness abounds,

you is one of us (unless yur some sort of foriner)

foolishness, you are lying. Look at it again. Or, a charitable interpretation, learn what words mean - maybe you simply don't know how to describe what you see in any way that is remotely accurate.

Wolf ~~ I think you said it all when you said, 'What a brave LITTLE man...' Anyone that formally had any respect for this 'little man'is most likely not feeling that right now. Seems to me that he's a coward, and really not fit to hold any kind of office, since it doesn't look as if he possess any kind of problem solving or negotiation skills, nor does it look like he has tolerance for those who have different views from himself. He's a dinosaur, and needs to be put out to pasture. After he's charged and sentenced with assault, of course.

I dunno. He is such a fascist hero. You can see all the positive responses from fascists here. Real American Fascists. Who call themselves 'we the people,' insulting every decent American in the process. They should call themselves "we the vicious, violent, bigoted, mass murdering filth."

Riiggghhhtt, was it a right wing intolerant that slapped Tom Barrett in the face? or does she just fall under a different standard? We can all "tolerate" a slap in the face to Tom Barrett because she was of the same poitical leaning...Everyone knows the left doesn't "do" violence. Violence exists the same in both extremisms.

The GOP is taking careful notes from Greece's far-right party on ways to advance their war on women.

Or is it the other way around??

The Democratic party cannot be held responsible for the actions of little old ladies... let alone anyone be held responsible for them... So yes, different standard.

allegroman, it's not even close, Occupy by miles.

@fenix But the American Republican party can be held responsible for the actions of a Greek radical? Violence happens on both sides of the spectrum, your acceptance and double standard of it because one was a "little old lady"...well, I got nothing.(BTW, she didn't look that old to me) Violence isn't acceptable PERIOD!

Why is it that any discussion on here always turns into an American Republican right vs. democratic left diatribe?

I have no idea Angela but it's like a boring broken record. But some people have nothing original to say.

Riiggghhhtt, was it a right wing intolerant that slapped Tom Barrett in the face?

At least she asked him if it was ok first......

It's a psychological issue Angela. Some people are so hopelessly polarized left or right, they simply cannot help but project the views of a few extremists on to the entire group, not realizing how it puts them in the same category as those they condemn.

Amused: I see what you did there...well done sir

Why is it that any discussion on here always turns into an American Republican right vs. democratic left diatribe?

Because no one listens to the 'other side'. I think we need a Realist party that understands and shares values with both sides. Both have some very good points, but the press and the fanatics are only interested in the bad.

@HK-G3 - post 1.14 that was more than 2 words. Are you in politics?

:)

The essential difference between the Tea Party and OWS is one of how they view this country, its Constitution, and its institutions.

The Tea Party has no respect for country, the Constitution or the country's institutions. They want everyone chucked out and start all over again. The Tea Party supports over 400 Constitutional amendments --- OVER 400! The Tea Party only sees destruction of the current country, constitution, and institutions and a subsequent re-birth of some mythical taxless political eden as the only way to proceed. They simply think that everything that is not associated with them individually is broken.

OWS, on the other hand has respect for country, the Constitution and the country's institutions. They are not campaigning to have anyone chucked out of office or any institutions destroyed or any groups of people disenfranchised. OWS is about accountability. They want to keep the same politicians and Constitution and institutions and banks and corporations --- just make them accountable to the law and to society. They want politicians to be held accountable when they take "campaign donations" and pretend that it is not bribery. They want government to be held accountable when there is waste. They want the government and the military to be accountable when Iraq and Afghanistan were attacked in retaliation for a Saudi-Arabian destruction of the WTC on 9/11. They want bankers to give enough back to society that growth continues and a rising tide floats all boats. They are okay with corporations having "personhood" and unlimited anonymous campaign contributions as long as the government is also prepared to imprison or execute executives that cause harm to individuals comparable to the penalty an individual would have for the same degree of harm. OWS is about "no more free passes."

They want the government and the military to be accountable

Hold the government accountable. The military, or at least the average soldier, are just following orders, which is not optional for them.

OWS is about "no more free passes.

You mean no more free passes for the wealthy and the politicians. They don't consider a lot of welfare or illegal immigrants sucking us dry 'free passes'? It should apply to all, not just the ones they don't like. But, just like every party, they only see what they don't like, or don't agree with, or what doesn't affect them.

I could make a case if she is attacking you with a knife or similar...but it is certainly hard to argue with that many exclamation points.

I agree, it isn't right to hit a women, except in the occasion that she is injuring you in an unprovoked attack. And I don't mean little slaps and crap. I mean like biting into your arm (like happened to me). P.S. My ex was psycho.

Would it be acceptable to hit (or kill) a woman soldier in a combat situation? Would it be acceptable to hit a woman if you were also a woman? Would it be acceptable to hit a woman if the target were a transgendered woman, and she tried to steal your husband? Would it be acceptable to hit a woman if it would save the life of a child? What if there is only a 10% chance it would save a life of a child? What if you are at a sado-masochist convention and a woman requests to be punched in the face? What if you are a baby of 8 months, and punch your older sister in the face, without knowing social norms?

p.s. all ex's are psycho.

We don't have any of those scenarios in this case though, do we? It was a political debate forum & the attack was unprovoked.

Well, would it be acceptable to hit a man? Just asking....

To me, he should be hitting NO ONE!

Just seeing the still picture, it doesn't appear anyone else has had time to react yet.

NO HITTING period!!! end of story!!!

Wow you are very strongly socially conditioned.

Women are equal, in every way.

Nobody should be hitting anyone but the fact one person is male and the other is female is irrelevant.

tim: social conditioning has value. second, women are not equal. Who told you they were the same thing as a man? Next time you date a woman, try substituting a man and tell me they are equal. They are physically and mentally different. I am not saying they are inferior. I am saying they are different. Like a banana is different from a hole in the ground. Neither is intrinsically better or worse. They have different gifts to offer.

Yeah, cause we ALLLL know left wing wackos never do this kinda stuff...Tom Barrett's slap in the face must have been a right wing plant...

riiggghhhttt........... it was a WOMAN doing the slapping on Barrett, not the other way around. And I seriously doubt you would disagree with her sentiment. So which is it? Did you intentionally make an disingenuous response? Or are you just ignorant of the facts?

Ignorant of the facts? Someone slapped someone else, that's pretty clear. In both cases it is wrong, gender has nothing to do with the commission of a violent act, nor does political leanings. Violence is incited on both sides of the political spectrum. The insinuation that HIS violence was because HE was "right wing" is what is "Disingenuous". Radicals on both sides of the spectrum commit violence, to sweep one under the rug because it was a "woman doing the slapping" is truly disingenuous.

riiggghhhtt, wrong. An old lady in a crowd slapping a male politician is the same thing? Talk about disingenuous, or just plain stupid. The article states he hit her Hard, and his parties response was that she made him do it, much like you are making excuses here. Same right wing clap trap coming out of the mouths of right wing wackos here trying to deflect what happened. You should be ashamed of yourself, even though that's obviously not possible.

riiggghhhtt...give up dude. You'll never get them to capitulate.

It's like the old joke about the rich guy who walks up to a woman at the bar and asks her if she will sleep with him for a million dollars. She ponders for a second and then says, "Well, for a million bucks, I guess so". Then he asks if she will sleep with him for ten dollars, to which she rares back, slaps him, and says in a very angry voice, "What kind of woman do you think I am?". The man replies, "We've already established that."

hs321,

What do you call the guy who offered the money for a sex act?...............a republican perhaps? Does that make him better than the prostitute? Poor argument and it shows the relative shallow thinking of the typical pubbie

riight: You can't argue with a lib, they don't understand logic or reason. Thats probably why the guy smacked her. (not advisable) Lib's (commies) have to open their flies in order to see if it is night or day.

Marklepew -- it's just an old, not very good joke.

By all means Eric in OR, please point out the excuses I am making here...I would like to point out the excuse you made that the MAN hit the WOMAN HARD, but the (not so) old supporter didn't hit Tom Barrett very hard so that must be better.

Is that because in your sexist little mind you think that women are not capable of inflicting as much harm on a man? I guess you think of women as the weaker sex and they must be protected from men. Tom's supporter couldn't have hurt him, after all she is just a weak woman.

You should be ashamed.

TIRED (you must be exhausted) "Lib's (commies) have to open their flies in order to see if it is night or day"

What the heck has a fly got to do with the time of day? Not very logical or reasonable. Please go back to bed and get some much needed rest, ok?

marklepew...the guy is of course a scumbag, the therefore probably a democrat on John Edwards level....

Uh, no, I don't really believe only democrats use prostitutes. Only an idiot would believe that only one party behaves such.

By the way, I'm an independent. Go feed your rabbit.

Hs321,

I knew we would get along well. We have only known each other for one day and already you are organising a party. I am not sure where in Tennessee you live but if I did live close by, I would definitely be up for that.

BTW....did you ever get to see the articles about David Vitter(R) hiring hookers to spank him while wearing diapers?

Yes, shame there was no video. Video or it didn't happen!

Shame there was no video? Oh excuse the news people for not pandering to your disgusting and sick desire to see a woman slapped. Pathetic. If I don't see it it didn't happen! Another person who thinks the world begins and ends with him.

Video is right here for all to see beginning @ 0:35

Since the Vine keeps deleting the link, just copy this:

Entertv.gr: Η επίθεση του Ηλία Κασιδιάρη στη Λ. Κανέλλη

Go to YouTube and paste it into the search engine. It'll take you directly to the video.

ohhhhh nice one

Nah, he probably learned it from the typical, radical left wing woman that slapped Tom Barrett in the face after he lost his election.

riiggghhhtt

I saw that too. That was un-cool. She looked a little disturbed, mentally I mean.

Riiggghhht....... thanks for highlighting the difference between the "right" and the "left".

Left wingers NEVER slap WOMEN. Right wingers make a sport of it.

John, thanks for pointing out, or highlighting the double standard of radicals!

Violence is OK as long as a left wing WOMAN is committing the act.

This is very similar to the ongoing Republican war on women! Coincidence?..... I don't think so!

riiggghhhtt:

Do we care if left wingers slap other left wingers? Let them eat their own.

Every person I know has been taught by age Three that's it's not OK for a man to hit a woman, what part of that did you not learn? But that's alright riiggghhhtt, just keep making an absolute fool out of yourself, at least you're amusing!

I'd rather have a man slap me than legally require me to put something in my vagina.

I'd like a little proof of violence from the Tea Party. For the left here it's Occupy Cleveland with their attempted bombing, the SEIU St. Louis w/ it's racial beating of a black conservative, voter intimidation and death bounties by the New Black Panthers, the nonunion electrical contracter that was shot at in Ohio last year by union protesters, the Occupiers' Moltov Cocktails at the Trade Center in Portland................

Oh yeah, in Greece, how about the bankers that were burned alive last year by leftist protesters? At least they would never slap that woman, just burn her alive!

You do know that there has NEVER been an arrest of a Tea Party member at one of their rallys, right?

The ONLY arrests ever made at those events were of union thugs that assaulted people while obeying Obama's order to "go and confront them".

Compare that to the THOUSANDS of arrests at the Democratically-sponsored OWS demonstrations.

The OWS organization is being run by the Institute for Policy Studies, funded by (surprise, surprise) George Soros and is operating out of offices in Washington DC that are paid for by the Service Employees International Union headed by Mary K. Henry.

Both Soros and Henry are FREQUENT visitors to the Obama White House. That place is going to need a THOROUGH fumigation and disinfecting once the vermin are run out of there in November.

The Leftists on here are just using the one of the tactics recommended by their spiritual leader, the self-proclaimed Marxist, Saul Alinsky - accuse your opponent of doing what you, yourself, are doing.

Eric in OR, Every person I know has been taught by age Three that's it's not OK to hit ANYONE. Its called voilence, doesnt matter how HARD they hit, it is still violence. Violence on another human is still violence. I do not subscribe to the sexist view you have that somehow men violating a woman is more of a crime than a woman violating a man.

Newsflash Eric, women are capable of as much as men. Try to understand that your sexist, old school view of women needing the protection of a man or more protection than a man, doesn't really fly in today's modern world.

I will keep making a fool out of myself by adhering to the philosiphy that violence against another human is unacceptable. But, please try to open your mind to the fact that women don't need to fall back on your old sexist attitude of "men don't hit women". Women are as capable as men in all they do. Violence committed by women should not be overlooked because of sexist standards like yours.

Riiggghht: Yes, but when the man outweighs the woman exponentially--it's like Mohammed Ali beating up a bantam weight--doesn't happen in professional boxing--shouldn't happen between genders.

Actually I don't believe in people hitting each other -- no matter their gender -- and I include professional boxing in this category. Just my humble opinion...

Riiggghhht, in today's modern world women are still the weaker sex physically, been that way forever. Unless the woman has done something to herself to no longer be considered female like taking testosterone to the point of becoming a man this will always be the way things are. What part of biology do you not understand, besides everything?

Well Riiggghhht, I'm looking forward to your pontificating when the next article comes out about say...the wage gap between women and men. But then, maybe you won't be so much for gender equality then.

Humans are a dimorphic species, men in general are physically stronger than women. But that does not negate riiggghhht's argument in anyway. No one has the right to hit anyone else except in self defense and if they do, it's wrong, period.

Eric, interesting to see your political loyalties lie so deep that you are willing to defend violence against other humans. I assure you my understanding of biology far exceeds your understranding of political neutrality and open mindedness.

Pragmatist, why would you make a broad and outlandish assumption about my thoughts on wage gap and gender equality when you have no clue what my gender, race or thoughts are? I suppose you have based your posting on an ASSumption... or it was simply a way to try to "bait" someone into an off-subject distraction.

That sounds better then a sammich...which I believe she forgot to bring him....hence the slap

stonepipe

Remeber that Cagney movie where he smashes the grapefruit in his girlfreinds face?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grapefruit-james_cagney-mae_clark21a.jpg

Again peole, don't get worked up. He was a criminal with no morals in the movie. I did not write the script.

Yes wichasha, I find it funny to watch old movies and see how "real men" were to act and all the subtle and not so subtle propaganda that went on. It is like "Mystery Science 3000" at my place. Really funny show if you have not seen it. Have a great day.

yeah remember it's a wonderful life. Same same we have not evolved we have regressed to a softer society

or in Airplane where they lined up to slap some sense into a hysterical woman. Heck even Nuns were in that line.

AND he SLAPPED another woman.... are you fricken clueless about the whole point of this article so NOT detailminded? Geeeez get a clue...the article is about him slapping a woman.

yeah, he did get her wet. then he slapped the other lady. major fail for greece.

She said let me get mine and make it hurt

lol good one. I have known several greeks...very fiery tempers

Isn't it funny how the closer you get to the Middle East, the more irrational people get. Greece is a great example.

yet another reference to Saddam Hussein- recipient of republican support

Yup, he ain't seen "Bitch Slapped" yet. Wait till he's in prison, that's when the real bitch slapping will start. See how tough he is then, Haaaa.!