Good plan to give rebels who hate us with a passion weapons to use against us when this is over.

If we intervene, those who take over accuse us of being imperialists. If we don't, the world accuses us of being complacent. Be careful what ou wish for. This type of thing in arab states usually ends up with the igrates that we help swearing to destroy us.

If "someone" could arrange for the Russian ship carrying these weapons to haxerdentally capsize and sink an hour or so after docking - that would be someone's SEAL magic.

Hey, zipperthecat, why give those morons anything? Let them kill each other, that is much cheaper than getting involved in something that is not our concern!

Think about it.

MSNBC - why continue to write about that stuff over there? Who cares. Let the brother Muslims deal with their Islam pig heads.

It's about time that we stop getting involved with problems that aren't ours. Let the Russians sort it out. We have more than enough problems here at home. Over the past decade more than enough blood and money have been wasted.

Good idea! The Russians can return the favor by arming the Taliban with the same!

Let the alawite/Shiites kill the sunnis

Let the sunnis kill the alawite/Shiites

Who wins?......

The rest of the damn world wins! that's who wins.

Afghanistan began as a proxy war between Russia and America. We supplied arms to the Mujahadeen and to the Taliban in order to fight for independence. They turned against thier supplier. It's a better option to rely on the neighbors of Syria, such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Lebanon or Iran.

I sympathize with the plight of the supressed, but another proxy war will not be a benefit to anybody. Russia has intervened on behalf of the Assad regime. Let them be the bad guys, the spoilers, the killers, the kufr.

Even if America supplied the weapons to topple the regime, there's no garantee America would benefit, or gain an ally.

Tunisia is the next smoking volcano.

Hey folks, quit worrying about everyone else and lets get our own house in order. The last time I checked Syria, Pakistan, Haiti, Russia, and the list goes on were not our friends. Why not concentrate on solving problems like foreclosures, social security, the economy, jobs, and the list goes on and on! You want to do something, put our people back to work and back in their homes. Feed the hungry we have here in the USA.

Typical of our gov't. When we give weapons and support to "Freedom Fighters" it's all good, but when another country gives weapons to help in anothers defense they are evil. And what did clinton say? Oh yea dispicable was her term. She is without a doubt the biggest hypocrite in Washington. Just another example of our fearless leaders saying "Do as I say not as I do"

Russia is dictating our policy on Syria, Missle Shield,, military force in europe, etc. anyway so I guess if they want to support the Syrian govenment we need to let them. As Obama said, of course I am paraphrasing, we can support you further once I get re-elected.

Sam2468, do you not know, or do you not care, that almost everyone in the military, along with almost every veteran is immensely insulted by your remarks? If we were such sissies, as you suggest, then why do the Al Qaeda pukes hide instead of coming out to fight like real warriors? Do the match, Sam!

almost as evil as we are,but they still have a long way to go to catch us.

Tsk. The only 'business' currently flourishing over here is the weapons business. France sold a few munitions to Libya, Iran, Iraq and any other customer out there with the money. Ditto the US. How many fighters did the US sell to the Saudis? Climbing on a high horse here? Didn't Obama tell Putin to 'wait until the elections were over?' Now, what was Putin expecting from Obama? Interesting that Obama wants to disarm America, basically leaving countries expecting a missile shield, like Poland, to suck air.

Careful Miss Hillary, the saber you're rattling isn't directed at a small nation with a small army. Libya is currently holding a few UN international court members hostage, wonder why? Seems the new 'government' in Libya isn't doing so well, even after all the arms and tomahawks sent over to rid the country of an evil dictator. Using civilians as shields? Which side? Seems the 'rebels' are doing it, ditto the government. The atrocities committed, no real proof as to who did them.

Syria is a civil war, don't take sides and secretly sell weapons to the highest bidder, a story as old as the hills. Civilians, the innocent, the children, those are always the unfortunates, caught up in something not of their making and paying the highest price.

Just think if Romney was President, he would bomb Russia and start World War III, all in the name of making a profit for his buddies!

It would be interesting to hear from Romney about what he would do.

Romney and republicans have a plan to defuse the Syria situation...more tax breaks for the rich, kill Social Security and Medicare instead! Then attack The Cayman Islands and declare it Romney land, home of repub offshore accounts.

Hillary Clinton said Tuesday could escalate the conflict "quite dramatically."

We should just let the Russians get involved WITHOUT US MINDING THEIR BUSINESS. We already have enough rods on the fire. Can't we just keep out of this one, please? We know that there are children being killed, but there are many people in bad shape around the globe. Please look how many people died last night in this country because of violence. Guns ring a bell? Alabama rings a bell? We can't "save" everybody to suit political ambitions.

How about all the troops scattered around the world? Isn't that enough for you Mrs. Clinton? Are you willing to send Chelsea Clinton to War -in uniform, that is, not as "the press"?

We have people in this country that needs help Mrs. Clinton. Get your nose out of other people's business and help your own fellow Americans.

This is good news for Russian strong man Rootin' Tootin' Putin and Syrian thug "Head" Bashir Assad, bad news for everyone else !!

Well... truth time -

The state department doesn't have problems with dictators since they have propped and supported countless ones Pakistan, Panama, Philipines, Indonesia, Chile, Liberia, Iraq, and funnily enough Saudi Arabia! The very Saudi that sent 911 terrorists to US.

I guess the crime that Asad is commiting is that he is NOT an American propped dictator and hence not buying American Arms. He is in bed with Russia and China buying their Arms. Now how dare he? (Sarcasm!)

Who Cares 8)

I saw a mentally challenged homeless man with a shopping cart hungry and tired and suffering on the streets 8( We need to help Americans right about now 8) don't you think it's time we take care of our own problems.....

Quit sticking are damn noses in foreign affairs that do not concern us.

unless the threat is damn close and coming for us then we need concentrate on AMERICA.

zipperthecat,

"We should give the rebels 30,000 RPG's and 300,000 rounds."

Or some Stinger missiles to shoot the helicopters down. Didn't we do that when the Russians invaded Afghanistan?

Well now here we go getting dragged in another war. Happens all the time.

We should buy up some man portable surface to air missiles on the open market and give them to the rebels.

That's an incredibly stupid idea. Every one of those things we find on the black market is and should be seized and destroyed.

Russia is evil. We should give the rebels 30,000 RPG's and 300,000 rounds

Oh Please! Since when are we the "Mother Theresa"nation that cares about the well being of others?

How soon we forget that we have killed many thousands of people in the name of God oil.

Russia along with China -- two of the council’s five permanent members

And that is why the UN has no teeth! There should be no permanent members or least deny the veto rights on the permanent members. Majority rules.

and

Good idea! The Russians can return the favor by arming the Taliban with the same!

What the hell do you think they are fighting with now? USA made M-4s, M-16s, M-60s, SAWs, Vipers?

China and Russia voted to do nothing at the U.N.'s meeting on Syria's unrest ....

Now let them deal with it ....

If "someone" could arrange for the Russian ship carrying these weapons to haxerdentally capsize and sink an hour or so after docking - that would be someone's SEAL magic.

I think there's a certain Italian cruise ship captain looking for work...

We should give the rebels 30,000 RPG's and 300,000 rounds.

I suspect this is exactly what the Russians are going to do.

“Russia sending gunships to Syria”

So what, let them! There is nothing we can do about it. Furthermore, who is to say who can and who can’t?

You're right, we shouldn't get involved. Maybe I should declare war with Republicans and start using their kids as a human shield. Think that might give them a change of heart? Want to know what the real problem with our country is? People should start being human, before being Americans or whichever political party you give your allegiance too. (I'm an independent, I'm not a whore for either propaganda machine.)

Guess Russia's finding out just how two faced these people are. This is only a slap in the face, just wait for the bite on the butt to come. And it will.

Oh no! Looks like Obama will have to hit the Reset, the Reset, Reset button!!! Boy he "Rocks" at foreign policy!

PJ, sarcasm or not, you probably aren't far off.

We can all agree Assad is an A.H.! So are a lot of others out there.... lets put our home in order before we can resume the position of the World's Policeman!

It is a shame , President Reagan put the Russian on their knees , but for Obama was too much, he has to apologize to the world for be too great , for be a dominant country , for be the leaders of the world. He mus be proud, we lost the respect from othercountries, we are the paper tiger. We are not leaders in the world anymore, we are just a followers. I guess for the left , the ones that love leak confidential information , regardless if they damage our national security it is ok. Very patriotic.

This is how world wars are started. The little guys cause the big guys to join in. When this occurs we all lose.

Guess who armed and trained the Taliban and look who is fighting them now.

Watch on You Tube..... RUSSIA and the gathering of nations to Armageddon.

and you will understand what is going on

I think it's WAY past time for the Nobel committee to take back obama's peace prize.

These War Mongers in D.C. need to be put on trial for treason. They are putting the American people in danger, costing us and our children's children vasts amount of wealth for only the benefit of a few (mainly ammunition companies). This is leading to another World War.

Obama is too busy flying to fundraisers (156 to date!)to give a rats a$$ what happens in Syria right now. His focus is on staying in power and blaming Bush. We are not in a position to help more folks that will turn around tomorrow and burn Uncle Sam in effigy. Like someone else said, let us put our own house in order first... it's the debt and jobs... that is the priority, but it may already be too late to fix our economic crisis because Obama is doing nothing but raising money for the next 5 months... oh and he wants to raise that debt limit too! Aren't we lucky to have such great leadership? Not funny!

Romney and republicans have a plan to defuse the Syria situation...more tax breaks for the rich, kill Social Security and Medicare instead! Then attack The Cayman Islands and declare it Romney land, home of repub offshore accounts.

Mr. Axelrod, this is a lie...but please do not place me your 'kill list'.

we did this to ourselves by empowering china, thank richard nixon and the repubs

oh, and thank yourself everytime you buy a china made product, go walmart

I like how the argument seems to be "Let's not get involved in anyone's business," but it seems OK to allow the Russians to get involved. Hmmmmm.

wonder miked-332794, where were you when bush took surplus and created debt?

You guys got it all wrong. There's much less in it for Russia about politics, and more about profits. Pure business. They want to sell helicopters (and other weaponry, too) to keep their industry from disintegration, which almost happened in mid-1990s. I bet if Clinton (or rather her boss Obama) offered better price to beat Assad's offer, they could get the choppers. Moreover, the Pentagon really could use these choppers, they are just as good as Apache and Black Hawk, if not better, and cheaper to buy and maintain. Though the unions assembling Apache and Black Hawk would be very unhappy seeing their money going to Russian workers instead. What's more important, the Congressmen and Senators representing them would be even less happy, regardless of party affiliation. So the idea to buy Russian helicopters will not fly politically, and Russians would sell them to somebody else who is willing to buy - Chavez, the Chinese, or, in this case, Assad.

America sold Saudi Arabia 60 BILLION in weapons last year. The biggest arms deal in US history...

this is no news...a few helicopters...big deal... Hilary beats the war drums...

IRESPOND-2315268

Russia is evil. We should give the rebels 30,000 RPG's and 300,000 rounds

Oh Please! Since when are we the "Mother Theresa"nation that cares about the well being of others?

How soon we forget that we have killed many thousands of people in the name of God oil.

I agree with your statement in full. We "admit" that 60,000 Iraqi innocents died in our quest for some insane world domination. Now, we want to start another Cold War, as if we're not screwing up so badly that other countries hate us. 50% of our discretionary spending goes to defense and I can't remember the last time that we used our military as "Defense." Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan--we are the aggressors. We're broke and we keep spending on screwing with other nations, as if we have some right.

Obama is staying out and clean like we should be doing! It would be nice to see what mitt would do. And yes it's about time that SS and Medicare gets killed and save america from debt. Time for change and that is how it need to be done

to ZipperHead: Russia is evil?? what do you call US with the Bushes running around scott free after human rights violations, war crimes and what those people did to Our American Economy and the republicanCrimeCartel'sSoldierRommel who will most certainly start a new and very profitable war with iran and/or Syria. Do not judge lest YOU be judged.

Oskar-1391552, Regan was not trying to finish off two wars, and then trying to take on Russia. We damn had better do some light trending in foreign countries. Obama is not a yes man but he knows he should be polite and respectful in dealing with Russia and China, too. We are not the only powerful country now, Russia and China also have power. You probably forgot that China owns us thanks to Bush. No Regan never would have borrowed money from China to fund two wars, while steady lowering taxes for the wealthy but Bush was not Reagan. you missed why we are in such a mess now. Oh I forgot, we blame everything on Obama don't we??? Your admiration for Regan is great, butI seriously doubt that Lt. Col. Oliver North would feel the same, he is the person that was blamed for the weapons sold to the contras that Reagan claimed to know nothing about. Of course that was a lie, he gave the orders for him to sell the weapons to the terrorists. Lt. Col. North was discharged from the service and his career was over, but Regan remained cleaned and respected. A lot of us servicemen felt bad for Olive North because the military was his life but you have to save the President. Of course had that been President Obama he would have taken the blame and we would have called for an impeachment. You know the drill I'm sure..

It really sucks to be Syrian these days, but since the rebels align with Iran, It's them they must get help from. If the UN wants to interfere on humanitarian grounds I'd support that, but not fighting Iran's war for them. That would just be stupid. Bottom line: It's not our fight.

Zipperhead: Who makes RPG's and it's ammo?? We're to buy from who? to supply who? to fight who's interests??

Were going to buy Chinese & Russian weapons to fight Chinese & Russian interests. I'm sure they'd give us a great deal.

Hello folks, Syria is not Libya. Waging an all-out war against
Syria is a further step towards WWIII. People who support a UN or NATO
intervention in Syria are by extension in favor of World War III.

We are broke, our allies are broke but yet we can somehow come up
with the taxpayer funding to invade another country? Now why is that? Middle
class and the poor get the bill for the war and the rich get richer for funding
and supplying all the materials used in war. Not only do they (Halliburton,
Bechtel, GE, Northrop Grumman, etc.) benefit from the armaments but from the
rebuilding of the cities and buildings they bomb. It’s a “win win” situation for
the purveyors of war and everybody else loses and yet you have the sheeple
buying into the propaganda they use to incite support for war.

In the past year, Syria has seen a massive infusion of arms and
terrorists from outside its borders. At the same time, the U.S. has attempted to manipulate world public opinion and exploit the chaos it unleashed in Syria.

The U.S., NATO, Saudi Arabia, and Israel continue to stir up
trouble in Syria to get a larger war going in the region. The U.S. and their
allies have openly admitted to funding the rebels. They are not only supplying
armaments they are supplying U.S. paid mercenaries.

Reports of another “false flag” are
surfacing that opposition rebels are planning to use chemical weapons and then
blame the atrocity on Assad’s regime. Rebels attempted to stage a similar
‘false flag’ recently when British Channel 4 reporter Alex Thomson was
purposefully led by rebels into a trap
whereby it was hoped he would be killed by government troops and his death used
as a propaganda stunt.

Washington’s goal is to build up an
international consensus to carry out a larger military operation against the
Assad government under the cover of a “humanitarian intervention.” So far, that
consensus has been lacking because the case for a military solution is based on
total lies and U.S.-Israeli war propaganda, much of which has been repudiated
by evidence gathered by independent journalists and eye witnesses on the ground
in Syria.

According to Veterans Today:

“There is no question this is a Washington-orchestrated war. It is
a low-level war to the extent that NATO has not gotten directly involved. But
it is exactly what happened in Libya last year. An insurgency began; Washington
orchestrated it; insurgents were recruited; they were funded; they were armed;
they were US special forces, British special forces, CIA, MI6, Qatari special
forces. They are in Syria now; they are directing these massacres, these
killings. They are funding, they are training; they are picking targets; they
are leading these dead squad games to places like Houla [and] Takiba. They are
picking up who to slaughter. They go after pro-Assad loyalists.

You always have to ask, when terrible incidents occur, whether it
is car bombings, whether it is massacres of civilians, cui bono, who benefits?
Assad gets nothing from this. Only the opposition gains. Assad is the victim.
The victim is being blamed for the perpetrator’s crimes. But again make no
mistake. The nexus of this struggle emanates from Washington, doesn’t matter
whether it is Obama, [former US President] George Bush or anybody else. Syria,
and other regional countries, have been targeted for regime change for years,
at least a decade. It was only the question when each one would come up.
Syria’s turn came up and violence has been raging since early last year.”

Folks this has been per-planned for a while, Syria has been on the
list for a long time and now their time has come up. Do you really want another
unnecessary war? Do you want your children fighting for another corporate war?
I keep adding General Clark’s admonition of America’s plan to take over the Middle
East because it is playing itself out right in front of the world! This isn’t a
necessary war!

General
Wesley Clark: "America will take out 7 countries in 5 years"

According to Former NATO supreme allied commander, former
presidential candidate and 4 star US General Wesley Clark that they had
received a memo that America is going to take out 7 countries in the Middle
East starting with Iraq, Libya, Syria Lebanon Sudan, Somalia, and finally Iran.
It is amazing that even if it is taking longer than originally planned, how
these things that were planned years ago are being achieved in front of our
eyes.

Folks, haven’t we spread enough blood shed and death around the world? This
isn’t a necessary war!

Scar

You are aware that there are RPGs and AKs and other Russian weapons made outside China and Russia, right? That guy who shot at the White House a few months back was using an AK-47 made in Romania.

Liberals are so pathetic, we feed our kids into obesity and they turn their heads in the face of thousands of children being killed and raped. They try to justify their lack of compassion for these children by comparing them to a homeless man, who through choices of his own more than likely got that way and opportunity to change his situation is around every corner. They sing kumbaia and tout world peace, but they aren't willing to actually DO anything about it. As much as you squeal about the Iraqi war, it is what gave them a seed of democracy, allowed them to vote, and started the Arab Spring Obama loves to take credit for. Idiots.

Wow what a disgrace.Clinton sitting there with the Israeli Flag shown front and center and the American Flag shown barely off to the side.But what do you expect from this Administration.If these same Activist/Freedom fighters were attacking Israel or another Country on our friendly list they would be labeled Terrorist by the Administration.But seeing how it's Syria and who is on our ***t list they are activist.The hypocrisy is so evident that it smells to no end.Wake up people to the fraud our Government levels at those Countries which it wants to take over in the name of Democracy.

Dude from all this you now have us wanting to take over Syria.Jesus you must be a Republican,what we want is for the current govt. to stop slaughtering thei own people.For countries like Russia to stop supporting this because they are their last ally in the region.

Yes Mike, lets name just about every former Soviet state as well. But they are not made in NJ. or TN U.S.A right?? It was never a US weapon.

As stated in the article this is basically a civil war. We should stay out of it. We would be in violation of international law of which we were the chief orchestrator () and have larger concerns at home. There would be little benefit to the US in terms of policy or economics in being involved there. We should mind our own business on this one and try to fix our own problems.

Let Russia, zipperthecats and others get involved in whichever side they want.

Shiites vs Sunni battles are not our concerns. We should not get involved in mad Islamic hell holes.

Why is it when Russia sends military supplies to an aggressive nation we call it terrible, evil, etc. but when we do it (supplying Israel with weapons to attack a people crammed into a strip of desolate land that have bottles and rocks to fight with) it's called aiding in freedom? Sorry, I just don't see the difference.

They did not kill saddam hussein for his attrocities as you say, they killed him because he wanted to sell his oil and get paid with other foreign currencies and not with dollars !

You are very ignorant ! American right wing politicians DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR LIFE !!!

50 MILLION AMERICANS ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD HEALTH CARE, 50 000 ARE DYING EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD HEALTH CARE... DON'T YOU THINK THAT IS NOT A CRIME TO LET THEM DIE when they could be saved if your country had universal health care ??? YOUR RIGHT WING POLITICIANS ARE CRIMINALS ! Republicans are killing their own people and that is a fact !

Do you know how your country is viewed by the rest of the world ?? we say of america that it is the country of medical misery !

Easily solved. Wait for the helo's to be delivered, then the UN declares all of Syria a no-fly zone.

Chris from Yucaipa...(#1.71)..."Easily solved. Wait for the helo's to be delivered, then the UN declares all of Syria a no-fly zone"

Oh yeah ??.....and who, pray-tell, will enforce the No-Fly Zone ????.......Norway, Kenya ??

And China and the Soviet Union will vote for that now, when they won't even condemn Assad ??

Interesting Note: ....The U.S. is buying the same gunships from the same Soviet Union Company supplying Syria, only we are giving them to Afghanistan....Sweet Deal for the Soviets !!

What say you Hillary, about that ???

Of course the make up less pant suit woman is now beating the drums of war against Syria. She is as evil and conniving a politician as is her Slick Willie husband and her fatuous boss Barry Hussein Obama Jr (if that is his name) .

She would love to see a war start about the middle of September so the mu latto could declare a national emergency and thereby cancel of delay the national election thus denying Americans the right to vote. He with her help will suspend elections and force America into a war that cannot be won and into debt from which we cannot recover.

Thus sinking into oblivion with all of the other third world nations. Anyone recall USSR turning into Russia, Uzbekistan etc.?

Hail to the pant suit woman for her diligence and deference to Alinsky (the subject of her thesis) and Obama the one who would subject us to tyranny and mediocrity.

Josh Brogan....(#1.73).....And I have to add to that....Have you noticed Hillary's new hairdo and wardrobe ??

Hair pulled back as tight as can be, giving her slanty eyes and her new pantsuits look like they came right out of The Chairman Mao Collection....

Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates:

"Any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should 'have his head examined,' as General [Douglas] MacArthur so delicately put it."

I haven't heard Sec. Clinton beating any war drums. She is condemning what is going on in Syria as she should and working diplomatically to end this carnage. No one in this administration is even hinting we should enter this conflict. Anyone who thinks we should get involved in yet another middle east war should tell their reps to raise taxes and then go to the nearest recruiting station along with their sons and daughters and sign up so they can put their lives and money where their mout it.) Diplomatic and economic pressures are being brought to bear but these kinds of actions can not be taken unilaterally and be effective. International coalitions must be created to bring pressure from many sides. That takes time and (something that Americans are terrible at) patience and finesse.

And for the sexists who are judging her performance based on her hairstyle, make-up and wardrobe - grow up. You would never judge a man by that criteria and in fact would laud him for paying so much attention to his job and working so hard that he doesn't even think about how he looks.

Josh Brogan - FOr a guy that can't read you certainly have a bunch of opibnions. Hilary is not callling to escalate the conflict; she's onserving that sending helicop[ter gunships represent an escalation of the conflict. DOn't worrry about the reading thing tooo much. If you ever learned how to read it might endanger your hatred for the President. Have a nice hate!

...put their lives and money where their mouth is.

"REVOKE" Russia's veto power in the UN.........and do it now....and "SUSPEND" China's, veto powers .....and everyone thinks it is America that starts the wars, there was a discussion this weekend that the US has started all these wars.......please google or bing, what ever "How many wars has America started"..........I answered "ONE".......against England called the "Revoulutionary War".....we spent the whole weekend looking at every source we could find.......again I was proven right...""ONE"....getting tired of all these posts from people who listen to the MEDIA, instead of learning facts....

You do realize we gave the Mujahideen in Afghanistan hundreds of stinger missiles in the early eighties and not one of those ended up in your "Black market". Nice knee jerk reaction though. Next...LOL

I didn't realize that because it's a lie. There are dozens of them still out there.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_gist/2001/10/stingers_stingers_whos_got_the_stingers.html

Mike in Delray

And her style of dress has anything to do with this entire article? Grow up.

Lets just create a new type of soldier called a stormtrooper and tell them to just kill everyone that isnt us so that we own the world!!!!!11one one one /endstupidity...

Note: I actually though this would look funnier in all caps but apparently newsvine doesnt let you do that :/

The Russians are being accused unfairly. This is just the Mi-24V Ecological Survey Version — Environmental research version. Not dangerous to anyone.

Scar,

It's business man!!   Where do you think the CIA got the AKs and RPGs to supply Osama and the mujahideen? Get real!! Business is different than politics!

Josh: "the make up less pant suit woman, etc"

WOW! As opposed the majority of make up less pant suit wearing men?

ItsAboutTime-3704531 ...(#1.81)..

"Mike in Delray

And her style of dress has anything to do with this entire article? Grow up."

Well we all know Hillary is a fashion leader....Her dressing like a Chi-Com....Maybe she knows something nobody else does.....Like, How to dress when we surrender to China because they own us....Perhaps she's be promised the Party Leader for the Chappaqua, NY Province ???.....Ever think of that ??? //sarc// ( If you didn't catch on the first time.)

If we REALLY wanted to make a difference we'd send in some AC-130H Spectre gunships along with the Russians helicopter gunships.

Hillary says sending the Gunships COULD escalate things dramatically? Kidding right, Hillary? All that money on that education tells you all that? Kids, stay in school. I never saw Hillary playing this puppet role.

And what do you suggest we do? Maybe invade every country that abuses it 's people? Ok, let's start with North Korea we'll let you take point.

We need to get out of the "World Police" business, we cant afford it and havent been able to for quite some time.

Umm, I think you missed Screm's point, Larry. She was stating that these kids are sold in Haiti but many, if not most, end up HERE in the U.S.A. Also, scores of children are being killed HERE in our own country as we speak. Where's the outrage about THAT?

Screw the rest of the world!!! Until you get your own house in order, quit trying to tell the the rest of the world what to do with theirs!!

If Willard gets in office, it will be U.S. boots on the ground. Count on it. I won't vote for Obama, but at least he shows a little constraint in foreign policy.

I may have to go with Ron Paul.

It's all politics! We curse those who abuse their own around the world, and turn our backs to those who commit horrid acts against children next door.

I say let the Russians and Chinese have at it for a while. Then lets see what happens next. If the U.N. gets involved guess who get to pick up the tab?

If this is something we get dragged into this, we need to let the military do what needs to be done. Not let this turn into a political war where someone like MacNamara tried to run an asian war from a cubicle in DC. Do what needs to be done and get out. Do not try to nbation build on the backs of the tax payers.

The truth is no nation not even the U.S can be a savior to mankind we maybe evil ourselves but maybe less so than others but you religious types that exhort we go to war against these other countries then show up at our soldiers burials saying vile things against them you should go to hell and fight your own damn wars.

Psychology 101- if you stand up to the bullies, they will back down. A strong leader that shows courage and confidence won't have to fight. One more reason I'm not voting for Obama- he exudes cowardice.

Can likes of you see only one side or all sides?

If atrocities and barbarism on girls, children and women are the criteria, then the most despotic, autocratic and bigoted Sunni Saudi ruler with his 5000 princes and princesses, Kuwaiti, UAE and other Arab League Sunni rulers and their rich sheiks are the biggest culprits in the history.

Through the Muslim immoral trafficking gangs, these barbarians have assembled all varieties of poor and helpless girls and women from all over the world in their harems and brothels.

If the US, Britain and others support such Sunni barbarians and beasts who treat girls and women as cheap sex slaves, then one can only conclude that Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists determine what to see, how to lecture and where and when to act.

OK. No attack helicopters for Haiti.

Um, how did an internal Syrian conflict (supported by Russia) suddenly become Israel's fault?

mossad is likely behind the current conflict by stirring up anti-Asad feeling and aid the rebels with offensive weapons. Only israel benefits from a destablized Syria.

Henrich von Dorf...put down the bong, you've had enough already. Besides that stuff really is bad for your lungs (try Brownies).

Henrich, Israel only benefits with regional stability.

you are blind..

american:

Syria supports Hamas in Lebanon . Hamas supports the Palestine conflicts.

Weaken Syria , you weaken Hamas. Thus , It could benefit Israel short term.

But the winners may not be exactly favorable to Israel after they win.

If they are players..it's a gamble.....

And that's exactly why it's in Israel's best interest to just stay out of Syria and let them kill each other.

Every day that Syrians spend fighting each other is the day they don't spend attacking Israel, supporting Iran, or helping any terrorist organizations blow something up in Europe or USA.

Can it be that what Hillary is saying is in fact a compliment to Russia for helping Syrinas stretch out their civil war?

BOB....Enough! Zionists....when anybody uses that word you're telling the world that you're anti-jewish, you're spewing bull@!$%#. Heinrich, WW2 is over and you lost. American 101st Airborne " Screaming Eagles " found your concentration camps. Adolph would have loved you!

Putin is going to cause trouble...count on it. All you Americans saying stay out, not your concern.....this is exactly what caused you to get involved in the two World Wars we had. Isolationism doesn't work. Your country doesn't need to be the world's policeman, but your country better be prepared for what's coming!

View from Canada

Actually, Zionism predates WW1 not WW2.

I support the United States. Not the country of my great grandfather (Ireland). Nor the Vatican where their religion resided.

Many people can't say the same. Religion + politics is a dangerous potion.

Canada is a wonderful country. But , I doubt they want their troops in Syria.

Can anyone trust what Hillarys, McCains, Romneys say?

Dear Rick-- I care less about what country the dead children are from than you do perhaps. Dead Palistinian children are just as horrific as dead Syrian ones. The only difference is, OUR country support the murderers of the Palestinian ones.

And what makes you think someone who is anti-Jewish is automatically spewing BS? Just because you don't like what they say doesn't mean it's b.s. I don't like what a lot of people say but it doesn't mean it's crap. That's just rude.

Way to go Rick. When the facts are against you, play the victim card and sob "anti semitism"

No, actually since the fall of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact... Russia has been in one military conflict. The U.S. and the ever expanding NATO regime has been the most aggressive coalition in Hot / Blood wars as well as regime changes.

Also, why is Russias interest any different than the U.S.?

For now. No matter whether we support them or not when it's settled they'll hate us.

It will ALWAYS come back to being directed at America. That is just how the savages operate.

America will always be blamed. I don't even know why we even care, if anything we do always backfires on us.

What can be better, Muslims killing Muslims, sounds good to me. They just need better ways to do it. As far as I am concerned the Russians can give the Syrians anything they want. In the end, no matter what, Assad will fail. But, there will be a lot of dead Muslims, and that is better than a life time supply of Everlasting Gobstoppers.

No we will still get the hatred we didnt do anything its our curse to be the worlds whipping boy till we finally mind our own business.

And if we just mind our business, we'll still be hated.

Reminiscent of WWII, how we thought it better to "mind our own business and let the French and English handle it." Until we sent some troops, planes, and supplies to England... until we got caught with our pants down by the Japanese... until we got drawn into the fight, whether we wanted to be in it or not...

We've been there and done that already. Why do we need to revisit that?

Muslims, especially Sunni Saudi sponsored Islamic militants like al-Qaida, MB and others love killing.

If they get infidels, they are after them as in Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria and other places.

If they don't have enough infidels to kill, they kill each other as in Syria, Pakistan and other Muslim nations.

It is better if they kill each other instead of all joining hands and turning against us.

It is better for Netayahos to have some patience and take the breathers given by them.

um, Terry...did you miss the part about the kids dying or that doesn't bother you? How come when someone says something negative about Israel everyone gets all up in arms (poor little helpless creatures, with all the latest in technological and nuclear warfare, fighting against people who are basically left in the Stone Age) but Muslims dying is always ok? What a stupid thing to say. I sure hope you use fool-proof birth control. Please don't breed.

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The big difference is Israel is not killing Americans by flying airplanes into buildings, Israel is not Killing Americans by kidnapping them and cutting their heads off while they scream into a camera, Israel is not killing Americans by having suicide bombers blowing themselves up. No other religious group has acted like this in 500 years. Bottom line: These damn Muslims are killing each other and I am ecstatic about it. We should just back off, get a bag of nacho chips and salsa with your favorite soda, watch it all on Al Jazeera, and Hillary should occasionally mention how horrendous it is and how they should stop these atrocities immediately.

Wrong, unlike America, Russia sells arms to anyone. Armageddon is just around the corner folks. The Bible says by interpretation that China and Russia will come together against the world. Obama is not as intelligent as he is given credit, the Russians are playing him and so is China.

You mean, np, that Russia might join with Israel against the Arabs...the same way that Russia joined the Arabs against Israel during the Six-Day War? That time, the entire left had to follow suit, even though it had adored Israel before. Now it might fall in love with Israel all over again. Wow, that would be something, all right. We know that the left can turn on a dime, so it should have no problem there.

Hind sight, we should have stayed out of that. We couldn't though, at that time the Soviets were our enemy and that was a sort of payback for Viet Nam. Now the US, China, and Russia have common interest in dealing with these Muslims and all three need to get together and figure that out.

Our government spent billions trying to track down unused stingers after russia left afganistan we were petrified they'd be used against commercial airliners. Hopefully we learned our lesson.

Giving them stingers is a horrible idea. They might save them up an use them against us or our allies.

Larry is exactly right. Those stingers may have kicked the Russian Hind Helicopters ass, but they are small and portable and just one of the damn things could take down a jumbo jet taking off from LAX or a dozen other airports. We don't need that crap.

True.

Wow, you are indeed a wizard among wizards. Do you have spare time to tutor us all, after hours?

Huh....guess no one told Romney the Cold War is over.

Actually russia invaded georgia in august, 2008 when bush was president three months before the election. McCain wouldn't have been a factor either way.

Obama has everything under control. HA

And don't worry, "it might take a little longer". HA

AND, "I will have more leverage after the election". HA ha ha.

Why you people think he is so great is beyond me.

Besides, HE is not killing off anyone.

The powers above him are.

He just got lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.

All of these policies were in place and are WAY over him, or ANY president.

The powers "above" him??

And who is that??

Hey Larry, that's my point. During his campaign, McCain blasted Obama for being weak on defense because Obama argued against getting involved in the Russia/Georgia tissy. Do you not remember McCain's famous "We are all Georgians today" statement? McCain was ready to commit US forces should he get elected.

Pay attention Larry!

You don't have the need to know.

And neither do I.

But it has been going on since the birth of America.

You REALLY don't believe that a possibly two term ANYBODY can trump people who have and will be in

government for 30 years or more now do you?

One real quick example of this (and one so many people like to harp on) is why did Obama REMODEL

Guantanamo Bay detention instead of closing it?

BECAUSE he was told it would NOT be closed.

Give me a break!! Obama has killed not one terrorist! Now if you want to speak to those that did, I would recommend you speak to the C.I.A, The U.S. Navy Seals, and the U.S. Airforce! Do you really believe that when they find one of these "Terrorist", that they stop everything and call Obama for permission? Obama usually finds out hours later and then tells the American people, "I killed a terrorist"! Obama is nothing more than a puppet of "Big Business"! He swore that he would get rid of the lobbyist in washington, he swore that government would have transparency. He will go down in history has the largest B.S.'er in American history! But, you keep telling yourself how great he is! Obama made good on one promise, CHANGE! Because, now thats all your dollar is worth....change!!

Willard doesn't have a clue. In foreign policy, Obama has done good job (though I won't vote for him.) But if Willard gets into office. oh my god, ladies and gentelmen. We don't want that to happen. He just doesn't have the mettle to do the thing in the best interest of U.S. LONG TERM! See, that's the key point.....LONG TERM!!!!!

Also, he was major draft dodger...read up on it. He has 5 sons....none have any military experience. He's an elitist.

Frankly - not quite. Romney did get missionary and student deferments (not uncommon) but he did have an actual draft number from the 1969 lottery - sorry if you are disappointed the war didn't last long enough for him to be drafted. As for his children, none of mine have joined the military either - you seem upset that he didn't force his children to join - only whack jobs force their kids into careers, seriously.

Viewer ready -

If i was on the battlefield and had to put my choice in either god or my assault rifle, i'd take my rifle. The battlefield is no place for god. All the prayers on the planet won't stop a howitzer round from decimating your ass.

Obama's foreign policy is superb. Slow and steady relaxed and controlled. Nothing too brash and slowly pulling ourselves back to America's needs, not the worlds. I've a feeling if we had a Republican president we'd be skipping troops all over the world still. Remember Bush's "stop loss" game? Yea.. Obama is bringing them home, all the Republican party could do was force rules for stop loss and re-circulate our troops.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

franklyorange where is obummers selective service card and what branch of Service was he in??? The US needs to WITHDRAW from the un and get away from these organizations that draw us into war under the premise of a new world order. The un is going to start WWIII and kill everyone that doesn't agree with them in the name of freedom.?!

gcooper if obummer is doing so great with our troops why is the suicide rate Higher than its ever been in history. Blame Bush eff you

Oh, and Cooper.

The troops are coming home to join YOU and I in the unemployment lines.

So are all of the military supply company employees.

And one wonders why suicide rates are up.

Great job Obama.

The sheep believe.

Obama was born in '61. The draft was stopped in '76.

Unless they were drafting 15 year old kids, Obama probably would not have had a selective service card.

You want WW3??

Wayne, have you been reading Romney or Rommel ?

Really smart wayne .. you send your toy airplanes to Moscow with their 5 lb payloads, and they will send you 10 or 12 thousand nukes ... more than enough to find you cowering in your trailer. And no, don't even say it .. everyone in the world knows patriot missiles don't work.

Lol @ jim, i vote for the Rommel chronicles..

Ah, yes we have fought the Russians and we have done it in Russia in 1918!

http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2002/winter/us-army-in-russia-1.html

But our schools teach history so bad you would never know that this happened!

did you read the article? Wilson sent troops to ensure American arms did not fall into the hands of Cossacks and evry other rebel band trying to get their hands of the merchandise..That is hardly a "Formal" declaration of war which what i was trying to get at..now if you said Wilson got together with Congress and drew up papers to go to war with Russia/Soviet Union then OK ya got me there..

maybe you should improve your reading comprehension before you judge my education level

Navy wasn't trying to judge you, just history of not being there. Must of worded it wrong...Go NAVY!

it's all good my man.....take it easy...but you are right about what is taught in some schools

The Russian hardware that you see all over the world is just leftovers from Cold War, Russian military just wanted to squeeze some use out of it, so they sold it to the highest bidder. That says nothing for where Russia stands politically.

Although, it looks unlikely that Syria could afford to buy weapons from Russia, but may be Iran picked up the check.

Lol or that we'd even come out and say it on national television if we had plans to. I can see the headlines now:

"Obama plans to send strike fighters and submarines to intercept Russian arms shipment. "

I'm glad we're sitting this one out. That sandbox over there is full of cat@!$%# and needs cleaning but we've got no business doing it.

Well said and too true.

Yuck. I'll bet your friends tell you how funny you are.

Sandusky just called to say he would meet you in the showers!

Every time Dick Cheney hears da word "Invasion"…..he gets a Boehner.

How is it you know this?

And supporting an ally as we do saudi arabia and did with the shah and should have done with mubarak. Hard to pretend an ayatollah in power in iran is better for us than the shah was or that the government in egypt wont be as bad.

And i saw bush shake putins hand and pat him on the shoulder some months after he invaded georgia, what's your point?

And Obama learned nothing from that experience, so like Obama's feckless naivety...the point is at the top of your head.

These are not "outlaws" these are citizens, and not just a handful.

Wake up.

And they all hate America.

Tom you have a HUGE COMMON SENCE infortunate many , many people call themselfs "patriots" lack of them (Walmart don't sell this product) because their are followers of Hollywood rules and the morbo media

couse we're cowards .

used to be poupulation control for those not privleged enough to "go to school" . as well as the manufackturers of cirtain things like bolts that hold on a helmet liner . as well as meny other things our last wars were not in fackt profitable for the colecktive as far as we all got jacked at the pump from 1.25 to 4.25 in the summer of 8 . there are other reasons to go to war to dissasociate a part of the general poupulous or insulate if you will to hav a military is to use a military . as we all know those less fortunate than us as not being able to have a collegge diploma means thier really stupider than us right there for should be culled from the heard of people and once they've got thier felonies one and all they will have no other choice but to work in carrer fields such as mowing the yard for those whom feel thier the elite of this society . as well as the more deaths on this side of ancesteral peoples (children of soldiers past) can be replaced by a larger income of an imigrant like say a hindu indian becouse arnt they more intitled to the reality that is america than those whose ancesters fought for it to begin with ????

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The US never sold Iraq weapons, Saddam used Russian aircraft and weapons.

We mostly gave Iraq piles of money but we did also supply them with some weaponry that was not US made.

Saddam was supplied with money and weapons by the US which he used against the Kurds in gas attacks and Iran. The Iraq/Iran war went on until there was a stalemate. Later, as America started to resist supplying him anything due to his treatment of the populace, Saddam turned to Russia and China using Iraqi oil as the currency.

This is fact, but the ignorants prefer close their eyes, our "friend" Sadam kill thousand of iranies, kurds, military, civil, womans and childrens, ONU, OTAN, HUMAN RIGHTS, ETC. don't said NOTHING bacause is "our boy "...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

guess he doesn't want anything with a made in the USA sticker on it coming back to bite him on his 6, you would think this would be a shock of a move, but it isnt..wonder if Holder has a few "items" left over that he can give as well

Obama should ask Turkey to send their stinger missiles to Syria.

And Russia and Iran should sell some RPG-11s to the Taliban. No more Apaches, Blackhawks, nor Chinooks. Payback for the 1980s would be hell.

Given their own problems with Islamist rebels the Russians have reason to sit back and let the US and Allies beat on the Taliban.

Obama had close to nothing input conserning this decision. It was Pentagons choice to buy russian MI's for Afgan use, and it was simply a matter of rational not politics. Afgan pilots used russian choppers for a long time, the pilots and mechanics would need a costly and time consuming re-training to be able to operate US made heli's. And more importantly, MI's are simply way cheaper, both in price per unit and in operational costs. It was just a practical decision on army's part...