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REUTERS/Dan Riedlhuber
Police investigate the scene of an armored-car robbery at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Friday.
Three people were killed and one is in critical condition after a shooting at the scene of an apparent armed robbery at the University of Alberta campus in Edmonton, Canada early Friday, according to reports.
“It was an apparent armed robbery of armored vehicle and or vehicles,” police spokesman Scott Pattison told the National Post of Canada.
“The university was quickly put into lockdown, it has its own protocols and it remains in lockdown now,” he said. “It’s a crime scene so students are required to stay remain in their dorms.”
Dan Riedlhuber/Reuters
Police investigate the scene of an armored-car robbery at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Friday.
No students were involved in the shooting, he added.
Pattison told CTV the victims are all thought to be employees of an armored vehicle security company. "The suspect and or suspects remain at large at this time," he told the station.
The shooting happened shortly after midnight in the Hub Mall area, which is a combination of student residences and shops, according to an Associated Press report.
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Unfortunately, I have nothing to say.
No, wait, how about them Yankees?
Oh, blow it out yer ass.
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History will not remember what we say here, but, cannot forget the deeds of those who died here.
When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
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you want the truth? you can't handle the truth
Douche.
At least he had more to say than "First!"...
Douche?
Touche!
Tragic, but I'm confused! Three people are dead,and one is them is critically dead. Is that different than being just plain dead?
Why is this international news? The caption is obviously intended to make it look like another college "campus shooting". Maybe we should ban colleges. They are obvioulsly places of greatest evil. :D
Why is this international news? Because it happened in Canada, a foreign country.
I think it's international news, because Canadians are a nice people and don't have guns. So it took four hours for the Oakland, Cali cops to get there...and hence, three dead. Or maybe not.
no it is those damn Canadains, first the cannibal guy now shootings, they get crazy wild, just joking, while not news in the US it is there cause they aren't crazy
Go back to school and improve your English.
So much for very strict gun control laws. Goes to show that when you take away the peoples right to have firearms, only the criminals will have them and you get killings like this.
Do you have any data to support that statement? For example, can you demonstrate that where guns are available, there are no murders?
I had a look, once upon a time, at the FBI stats for murder by weapon in the US, and it seems that the per capita rate of murder by firearm is greatest in the states that have liberal laws on gun ownership.
Could that be correct?
As far as I know, the Murder Capital of North America is Washington DC, where personal Handgun ownership was banned in 1975. That was recently repealed, however, as LEFTISTREPORTING says, it is pretty logically obvious that on the day in 1975 when everyone had to line up and hand over their guns, the only people in that line were law abiding citizens. The criminals kept their guns
Now, I'm not sure it necessarily follows that 'you get killings like this' because of restrictive gun laws, but clearly making additional law against gun ownership does not prevent criminals from getting & using guns, since the criminals don't obey those gun laws, any more than they obey the laws against robbing or murdering.
However, this is a tragedy. What a horrible thing for their friends and families to have to go through. Hopefully, these guys will be caught and convicted and will actually spend life in prison.
No, that is not correct-we are just better shots.
How does this have anything to do with gun control? The people who were shot were armed guards so its not like they didn't have the means to defend themselves with their magical guns that always keep the bad guys away (because that the reason why everyone should have one, right? so bad people don't hurt them?).
Yes, Canada has gun control laws. It just means that people who really want them go through the necessary channels to get them. It's the big bad government's way of trying to weed out irresponsible people from owning dangerous weapons. Does it always work? No, but the people who get caught with one illegally face the penalty. Bottom line is, if you want a gun for legal and upright reasons and have nothing to hide (ie a bad criminal background), you can have one. If you wanted to buy and drive a car have to register it and get a license because the government (who's job it is to ultimately protect the citizens..I know debatable) wants to know that you know how to use the car and are responsible for it. Its no different.
Leftistreporting - First off, I'm assuming that the victims, all employees of the Armored Car company were armed. They may also have been wearing bullet proof vests.
Doesn't seem to have helped much, does it?
Secondly, despite this shooting incident, Canada's murder rate remains a fraction of the U.S. rate, despite all of our "right to carry" laws. In Canada such a shooting incident is a rare occurrence. We have 1 or 2 of them every week in the U.S.A.
I've yet to hear anybody claim that tighter gun laws would prevent all gun-related crime, but I do believe it would cut down on the incidence level. Traffic laws do not prevent all accidents, but I expect that restricting road speed, punishing drunk driving severely and enforcing other rules of the road does prevent many traffic fatalities.
Todd, actually, according to 2010 statistics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate), the Murder Capital of the U.S. is New Orleans, LA, with a rate of 49.1 per 100,000 people, followed by St Louis, MO, Baltimore, MD, Detroit, MI, Newark, NJ, Oakland, CA, and then Washington D.C., with a rate of 21.9.
...and to save you the trouble of looking it up, Louisiana, Missouri and Michigan are all "Shall Issue" states with regard to concealed carry permits.
@dman-353357
And, Baltimore, New Jersey, California and DC have some of the strictest gun ownership prohibitions in the US.
AZ LIBERAL Rep. Gabby Giffords , a NRA member & supporter of gun rights was carrying a 9mm Glock in her purse when an idiot opened fire.... she was shot 1st & point blankly... then he turned the gun on 18 other people.... not one person carrying a weapon got a shot off or displayed their weapon.... that is the value of carrying a gun on your person for protection 19 people could NOT defend themselves in the short amount of time it took to commit the crime becuse there was NO OPPORTUNITY to do so .
It's easier to get guns through state or city limits than it is to get Mexicans through the border with Arizona. The fact that there are gun-related crimes in areas where there is control of gun ownership means absolutely nothing.
Ah, but that is also disputable. For example, how many crimes were committed by people with machine guns? Very few I can tell you. And why is that? Because it is verrrrrry difficult to get a machine gun. Why is it difficult to get a machine gun? Because in 1934 and again in 1968, the US passed legislation making it difficult to get a machine gun.
So, laws can have an effect. But they have to be good laws and they have to apply to everyone.
I'll just point once again, airdog, that the number 1 and number 2 cities are in states with 'Shall Issue' concealed carry laws states, which sort of gives the lie to the oft-repeated claims that relaxed gun laws represent some sort of magic panacea for violent crime.
Incidentally, Maryland and California are "may issue" states. There is only one remaining "no issue" state, Illinois. So I fail to see why you claim that Maryland or California have some of the strictest gun control laws.
Look at the violent crime rates in Canada vs the US. Those strict gun laws work and make nations first rate--which we are no longer.
According to Davey 526272, gun violence is the cause of LIBERALs writing laws,not conservatives. I'm going to save your "Davey" comment and spread the word whenever appropriate! Thanks!!!!
ha ha
Liberal gun laws are writ by pro gun types.
Mexico, Canada and Chicago prove that gun laws do not work, period.
To you, perhaps.
Canada's murder rate in 2010 was 1.62 per 100,000 inhabitants. The rate in the U.S. was 4.8.
In the countries of Western Europe, all of which have stricter gun laws than the U.S., here are the highest murder rates:
Here's the source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Mexico's gun laws are meaningless, as the police and civil authorities are completely compromised by the power of the drug cartels. Where laws are unenforced or unenforceable, it matters little what the laws forbid or allow.
Canada proves quite the opposite of what you're suggesting.
www . statcan . gc . ca/pub/85-002-x/2008002/article/10518-eng.htm
Firearm-related homicides in Canada in 2006: 0.58 per 100,000
Firearm-related homicides in the U.S. in 2006: 3.4 per 100,000
It's easier to get guns through state or city limits than it is to get Mexicans through the border with Arizona. The fact that there are gun-related crimes in areas where there is control of gun ownership means absolutely nothing.
@ dbag-353357
You haven't proven anything and you even cited wikipedia? lol... wow! That's pretty sad.. You using wikipedia as if it is a legitimate source for peer-reviewed facts/published facts from credible sources. As an academic, I would never cite anything from wikipedia because I would get laughed at.. Just as I'm doing to you right now.. :)
However, with you're ridiculous 'wiki-facts' (LOL@U); these facts, rather stats, do nothing to consider the greater picture and why it is homicide rates are higher elsewhere; higher in America compared to Canada. Did you ever think this is due to the socioeconomic conditions of those using firearms in homicide related incidents? Or the fact that America has 10 times the population of Canada?
What you've tried to prove is ridiculous at best and you've failed to consider all other factors pertaining to why homicide is higher in the States than Canada. It has nothing to do with gun laws, nothing at all. Except restrict law-abiding citizens ability (and should be a constitutional right) to protect oneself from threats of aggression. What good are any laws if you cannot defend yourself against an attacker with a firearm because of restrictive firearm regulations that criminalize law-abiding Citizens and protects the perpetrators.
Well, mikerroni, I at least cite some source for the claimed facts supporting my opinions. You offer only airy rhetoric, more suited to a junior highschool playground then an adult discussion.
Some of the other factors you cite "Or the fact that America has 10 times the population of Canada?" are irrelevant; statistical rates, as opposed to total counts factor out the impact of larger populations, or didn't you get that far in school?
You ignore too, that I cite not just the homicide rate in Canada, but also the rates in Western Europe, where gun laws are similarly strict.
You've apparently never considered that the very prevalence of guns in our society makes it far easier for criminals in the U.S.A. to arm themselves. Nor to you consider how seldom one hears of a law abiding citizen who, when confronted by a gun-wielding assailant, manages to beat him to the draw and prevent a crime from occurring.
The slain armored car guards in Alberta, were they not armed? Why did this not prevent the crime?
So, lol too. I'm always amused to see what mental gymnastics gun-rights advocates use to prove how more guns in our society makes us safer.
btw: you'll perhaps understand if I don't respond to your trolling tactic of addressing me as dbag-353357. I got over reacting to such pitiful tactics a long time ago.
Edmonton, Canada? Where is that exactly? Is that in Ontario? Kinda like Austin, USA? Always amazed at the lack of knowledge of US news networks and the geography of Canada. Its Edmonton, Alberta in Canada. Alberta being the province, Texas being the state, in the USA. (comparison)
And?
Just another conservative with an VITAL OPINION & a 4th grade diploma showing off his "higher education" Texas style .
...and for his information, TEXAS is a REPUBLIC and NOT a state !
@MIster Fids
Oh, I see, I didn't realize there were only 49 states, my bad. "an VITAL OPINION" by you seems to have rewritten history. You might want to get a "higher education" so you can comment on these sites without showing your lack of intelligence.
i thought the exact same thing. :) but they do it all the time. "the NHL riots in vancouver, canada." "the stage collapsed in toronto, canada." *rolls eyes*
I keeps a tellin ya gun control don't werk. 'speically when yer southern neighborino lets people buy as many as they want at will..more than enough to sell to those evil canadians
Quite a large university, established 106 years ago, with a current student population of about 36,000, in a fairly large city (by Canadian standards) of about 1.2 million metro population.
@ Rose Colored Glasses,
"The people who were shot were armed guards so its not like they didn't have the means to defend themselves with their magical guns that always keep the bad guys away (because that the reason why everyone should have one, right? so bad people don't hurt them?)." What is this crap? Satire? Pretty poor taste in comedy I dare say. Or are you another insolent noisemaker who likes hearing your views and opinions voiced? The matter of the fact is your views and opinions are irrelevant, trivial and ridiculous.
As for this quote, I present: How dare you make a lame brain assumption that because these armed guards had firearms they had a fair chance? This is not the case and contrary to the facts: 3 dead, 1 critically wounded; may have been an inside job (which makes perfect sense why 4 armed guards were shot: There defensive guard was done because they perceived no threat; including irate co-worker) - This fact here you should consider. 3 guards killed, 1 critically wounded; all four of them caught off guard. If it was a robbery the armed guards would have been able to return fire and react; but if a coworker shot them in the backs/back of the head, whatever. These armed guards DID NOT stand a chance, nor would they have believed a coworker was capable of such an act.
I propose a test: why don't you walk in front of me with your back turned to me from, say? 10 feet and you'll be provided a firearm but can only use it when a threat is detected. Albeit with me behind you, you at your most vulnerable. I would pull out any weapon and do away with you in similar manner to these armed guard who were caught off guard and executed; you wouldn't stand a chance.
Then you can tell me if you were given reasonable chance to defend yourself from an attack from behind; especially an attacker armed with a firearm right in close proximity to 3 coworkers and catching the 3 employees off guard; but they still had their firearms, right? It didn't do these guards any good when they were dead or dying, caught off guard and at their most vulnerable.
Perhaps you should think before you speak, as ignorance isn't an acceptable excuse for airing you're trap of a mouth with ridiculous opinions!
Condolences to our brothers and sisters "up north."
Apologies for my fellow Americans who turn everything into a socio-political dogfight.
The job armored truck drivers and guards perform each day all over the world is extremely dangerous to begin with, and like a military unit, a certain amount of trust in your fellow workers is absolutely required to ensure the job gets done safely. And just like happens in the military, people always die when someone you have to trust your life to has decided to become the enemy. It doesnt matter if you are armed or have a protective vest, if a team is busy with a task and having to watch out for any kind of threat from any direction at the same time, you are not going to be focusing on your coworkers. Thus if one does go bad it is unlikely enough time will be available to hear the first shot, discover its source, then act accordingly before the last shots are fired.
interesting that the majority of the comments are about gun control. this has nothing to do with gun laws in canada. this guy was greedy and violent. that's pretty much the extent of this story.
it also wasn't published because the media is trying to scare people about the dangers of campus life. the location was incidental to the crime. if it happened at a mall, this story would be just as important. this man shot four people in cold blood, and then ran away.