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Russia is sending armed troops to Syria amid escalating violence there, United States military officials told NBC News Friday, in a move certain to frustrate Western efforts to put pressure on the regime of President Bashir Assad.
Moscow has sent a ship carrying a small contingent of combat forces to guard Russia’s deep-water port and military base at the Syrian city of Tartus, the US officials said.
The U.S. officials also said Russia has not sent additional attack helicopters to the Syrian government, but replacement parts for the Russian helicopters the Syrians are already flying.
Days before President Barack Obama's meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, there has been a war of words between the U.S. and Syria's longtime military supplier. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.
It comes after the conflict was declared by France on Wednesday to be a full-blown civil war.
The head of the U.N. observers in Syria said Friday a recent spike in bloodshed is derailing the mission to monitor and defuse more than a year of violence and could prompt the unarmed force to pull out.
"Violence over the past 10 days has been intensifying willingly by the both parties, with losses on both sides and significant risks to our observers," Maj. Gen. Robert Mood told reporters in Damascus. "The escalating violence is now limiting our ability to observe, verify, report as well as assist in local dialogue and stability projects."
Tartus is one of Russia’s most strategically-important assets, giving it military access to the Mediterranean Sea.
Russia and China, both permanent members of the U.N. Security Council with veto power, frustrated attempts by key Western figures, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, to enforce a United Nations peace plan brokered by special envoy Kofi Annan.
Russia’s foreign minister Sergei Lavrov on Friday repeated Moscow's strong opposition to external interference in Syria, said it was not discussing plans for a Syrian political transformation following the exit of Assad.
At a news conference after talks with his Iraqi counterpart, Lavrov said he had seen reports saying U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland had suggested Washington and Moscow were discussing a post-Assad strategy in Syria.
"If that was really said then it's not true," Lavrov said. "Such discussions are not being held and cannot be held, because to decide for the Syrian people contradicts our position completely.
"We do not get involved in overthrowing regimes - neither through approval of unilateral actions by the U.N. Security Council nor by participation in any political plots."
Nuland was asked at a news conference on Thursday whether the United States and Russia were discussing a transition of power similar to that seen in Yemen last year, in which President Ali Abdullah Saleh was replaced by a deputy.
"We are continuing to talk about a post-Assad transition strategy in that context," she said.
Government forces in Syria have driven rebel fighters out of the town of Haffa near the Turkish border and are now allowing UN monitors to enter the area. NBC's Richard Engel reports.
Lavrov said any broad international talks on Syria must include Iran and must only address ways to create conditions for a political dialogue in Syria - not the content of that dialogue or preconditions such as Assad's exit.
Russia, which has come under increasing criticism from the West for arms deliveries to Syria, responded to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's allegations that attack helicopters were on the way from Russia to Syria.
In a statement on the Foreign Ministry website, Russia said it had made no new deliveries of military helicopters to Syria but under old contracts it had repaired helicopters sent to Syria "many years ago".
"There are no new deliveries of Russian military helicopters to Syria. All arms industry cooperation with Syria is limited to a transfer of defensive arms," the ministry said on its website.
"As regards helicopters, planned repairs of (helicopters) delivered to Syria many years ago were conducted earlier," it said. It did not say when they had been repaired or, if they were repaired in Russia, when they were returned to Syria.
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Syria's ambassador to Russia said on Thursday Russia had not sent new attack helicopters to Syria.
Russia says it is fulfilling existing contracts for air defense systems against external attacks. President Vladimir Putin, due to meet U.S. President Barack Obama next week, said the weapons Russia sends could not be used in civil conflicts.
A source close to Russia's arms exporting monopoly Rosoboronexport said Clinton's comments may have referred to helicopters sent to Russia in 2009 for repairs and which may be on the way back to Syria.
The source said on Wednesday at least nine Mi-25 helicopters were sent to Russia's Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad to be repaired by Oboronservis, owned by the Defense Ministry.
Russia delivered three different missile systems including Bastion anti-ship missile units and another anti-aircraft system to Syria last year.
At least two ships carrying Russian weapons have reportedly travelled to Syria since the beginning of the year, though possibly not on behalf of state arms exporter Rosoboronexport.
Reuters contributed to this report. Jim Miklaszewski is the chief Pentagon correspondent for NBC News.
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Way to go Mr. President. Russian troops in the Middle East.
Hopefully this will not be the beginning of a "bad thing". Hopefully, this will not enable and encourage an escalation of events there. Hopefully, Russia is ONLY looking to protect their port. Hopefully, the US will not be seen by the world as a weak nation who is clueless how to react and/or how not to react. "Hopefully" is what Obama ran on and is how the administration continues to operate.
But looking back in history, major wars were began because of "insignificant" events that as it turned out were initial steps toward huge problems.
Yep great news hopefully we can get all our troops back home and out and the Russians and Chinese can be the cops for awhile 8) hehe
Russia also entered Afghanistan and ... goes out with their tails between their legs ... leaving for the "bright" West a growing biggest problem than Russia had before ... No Russia, China and Iran make their own profit... An the worst: the extremist islamists are growing and infiltrating all over the world, not just in the middle east... They openly hate anyone that do not accept their own sick and distorted vision of the Koran and the Shariah laws.
@Big Al-369306: Don't fool yourself. You can even go and close yourself into a bunker... but the world where you and all of us live (or try to) will be conquered by those growing extremists movements infiltrating everywhere.
You are correct..obama has failed the US and Allies again. He is totally incompetent
Intelligence people still stand by the evidence and intel that stated Iraq had WMD's. Hussein was given 2 years to move out anything he deemed valuable and/or didn't want to get caught with. Syria was Iraq's and Hussein's "good buddy" at the time. Rumors abounded then that WMD's were being transferred to Syria while we were trying to build a UN coalition, and while we were EXTREMELY patient before entering Iraq. WMD's were not found in Iraq. I'll just put these FACTS out there and you can make of it what you will. Yes, these are facts the way I have worded the them wether you want to believe them or not.
You guys are nuts. The Russians have a vested interest in Syria and would not like to see their port rip to shreds. This has nothing to do with our president and everything to do with Russia protecting it's assets, but continue bitching about the president if it makes you feel better about yourself.
"Russia also entered Afghanistan and ... goes out with their tails between their legs..." excuse me, you mean bc of the weapons brilliant USA supplied to terrorist that they are dealing with them selfs now. Do you even know why russian entered Afghanistan in the first place? A school to educate women that the russians opened in one of the cities was raided by extremists, everyone one inside russians and afghans, women and children, were beheaded. USA on the other hand engages in full out war over weapons of mass destruction that never existed.
I agree with Stexan The WMD s were in Iraq but they had 2 years to hide them in the desert or move them to their "friendly" neighbors.
Rambo 7 will be out at the end of the summer..........
A few mines in the harbor at Tartus might level the playing field, provided they 'look' as if they originated in a former Eastern bloc munitions factory.
So then, what would Mitt do?
I'm waiting. And waiting. And waiting.
That's what I thought. Again, no constructive input from the wannabe King.
If our government was smart in the USA..we would think like Russia and China and agree with them..what will happen they will be reversing themselfs then..Russia and China nevers agrees with us no matter what its about..so we should try it just once ( maybe we did already and they fell for it..LOL).
I have never heard so many babies crying over Obama. Must be an election year.
Is it the same babies that cried about Romney when they wanted Santorum to win the election and totally ignored Ron Paul? Must be.
Must be the same babies who actually aren't conservative, but pretend they are, while reading their
BibleKoran.Anyway, back on topic. You can count on Russia and China to always debase themselves further than the West. If we bomb terrorists and accidentally kill civilians, or Isreal kills terrorists even if they are hiding behind civilians, China will just start arresting and killing its own civilians in secret, and en masse. Russia will give money to Syria to shoot babies in the head, and when that isn't enough, they will shoot them in the head themselves.
It is really brilliant, you know, how awesome Russia and China are. And all the people pissed about how we buy stuff from them are the first in line to support them when it comes to killing children. But go on and pretend you don't keep shopping at Walmart because you want to save a dollar.
And the world and America is such a stable, prosperous, and vibrant place today because Obama was elected. I can do mockery and sarcasm just as well as you. Problem is you base your ignorant comment on your personal feelings but absolutely none of it is provable or in any way based in reality or facts. On the other hand, Obama has a record, he has a history, and the results and effects are out there for ALL to see. You should quit now, because from this point forward you can only continue to make yourself more of a fool and blow-hard.
Which side is Russia on exactly? They've shunned Syrian government actions in the past yet they still have no problem sending replacement parts for their attack helicopters.
Total WTF moment.
Palin would have sent troops to the wrong country. We'd be attacking Madagascar right now.
STexan,
Nice. I do not think I have ever seen someone as mentally deficient as to declare that all of the World's problems were caused by Obama. That is a new personal high. You may have even just broken the Newsvine record for things blamed on Obama. Maybe you should send you a medal.
Obama never was the problem. The economy is the problem, the Global one for perspective. 2008 was a collapse in the inner workings of our economy; it was not a recession, it was not a depression, it was a collapse. Collapses are completely different from the two mentioned things and America had never had one prior to 2008. You do not just bounce back from a collapse as if it was nothing. You first have to figure out why the economy collapsed and then make changes to fix the problem.
That does not deal with rebuilding the economy though, that just keeps the economy from collapsing the same way again. So far nothing has changed, absolutely nothing. Banks did not get punished, the CEO's that pushed for selling loans were not convicted. The S&P was not audited nor investigated for why they rated the crap loans as AAA security status. No regulations on loans were put into place to stop people from taking up loans they cannot afford. Those in the Government that pushed for easy access to housing through loans were not even discussed, they should have faced hearings at the very least for perpetuating this catastrophe.
When our economy collapsed it sent out a shock wave that damage the Global economy. We play a big part in it and while not the biggest certainly enough that is our markets are sick we infect other economies tied to ours. This is why the Eurozone is doing as badly as it is. They would have still had problems right now but those problems were multiplied ten fold by what happened in 2008.
The uprisings in the Middle East, those were mostly caused by economic pressures on an powder keg that was all ready set to go off. The 2008 collapse triggered them sooner, even though it took two years. Greece is doing as badly as it is right now, as is Spain and maybe even Italy, because of 2008 and the far reaching affects it has had on the World's monetary systems. OWS, nothing else needs be said about that; it was a direct result of 2008.
No one party, no one Congress/Parliament member, no one President of any one nation knows how to fix this economy. In our country both sides are just using the same policies that partially led us to this trough. We need something that does not put people out of work, public or private sector, we need an idea that does not destroy services that the country needs now more then ever. We need an idea that does not discriminate against how wealthy you are, we need an idea where everyone contributes something to the answer. We need an idea that has rational and well thought out cuts to our spending, not one that has radical cuts that are just going to do more damage then good.
Even if we find this idea and implement it we must realize that this is not going to fix our economy right away, it will take yeas, maybe even a decade. There is a saying, hope for the best but expect the worst. This is something we should be using judiciously right now because if you do not, and you expect someone new to fix the problem right away you are just going to make yourself depressed when it does not happen.
This isn't about Obama...you dumb-asses
This is about everyone picking sides
Which side are you on!!!!!
Cause...here we go (wow we-go brought me another beer)
Hello folks, Syria is not Libya. Waging an all-out war against Syria is a further step towards WWIII. People who support a UN or NATO intervention in Syria are by extension in favor of World War III. The U.S. and Russia have been selling arms all around the world for decades.
We are broke, our allies are broke but yet we can somehow come up with the taxpayer funding to invade another country? Now why is that? Middle class and the poor get the bill for the war and the rich get richer for funding and supplying all the materials used in war. Not only do they (Halliburton, Bechtel, GE, Northrop Grumman, etc.) benefit from the armaments but from the rebuilding of the cities and buildings they bomb. It’s a “win win” situation for the purveyors of war and everybody else loses and yet you have the sheeple buying into the propaganda they use to incite support for war.
In the past year, Syria has seen a massive infusion of arms and terrorists from outside its borders. At the same time, the U.S. has attempted to manipulate world public opinion and exploit the chaos it unleashed in Syria.
The U.S., NATO, Saudi Arabia, and Israel continue to stir up trouble in Syria to get a larger war going in the region. The U.S. and their allies have openly admitted to funding the rebels. They are not only supplying armaments they are supplying U.S. paid mercenaries.
Reports of another “false flag” are surfacing that opposition rebels are planning to use chemical weapons and then blame the atrocity on Assad’s regime. Rebels attempted to stage a similar ‘false flag’ recently when British Channel 4 reporter Alex Thomson was purposefully led by rebels into a trap whereby it was hoped he would be killed by government troops and his death used as a propaganda stunt.
Washington’s goal is to build up an international consensus to carry out a larger military operation against the Assad government under the cover of a “humanitarian intervention.” So far, that consensus has been lacking because the case for a military solution is based on total lies and U.S.-Israeli war propaganda, much of which has been repudiated by evidence gathered by independent journalists and eye witnesses on the ground in Syria.
According to Veterans Today:
“There is no question this is a Washington-orchestrated war. It is a low-level war to the extent that NATO has not gotten directly involved. But it is exactly what happened in Libya last year. An insurgency began; Washington orchestrated it; insurgents were recruited; they were funded; they were armed; they were US special forces, British special forces, CIA, MI6, Qatari special forces. They are in Syria now; they are directing these massacres, these killings. They are funding, they are training; they are picking targets; they are leading these dead squad games to places like Houla [and] Takiba. They are picking up who to slaughter. They go after pro-Assad loyalists.
You always have to ask, when terrible incidents occur, whether it is car bombings, whether it is massacres of civilians, cui bono, who benefits? Assad gets nothing from this. Only the opposition gains. Assad is the victim. The victim is being blamed for the perpetrator’s crimes. But again make no mistake. The nexus of this struggle emanates from Washington, doesn’t matter whether it is Obama, [former US President] George Bush or anybody else. Syria, and other regional countries, have been targeted for regime change for years, at least a decade. It was only the question when each one would come up. Syria’s turn came up and violence has been raging since early last year.”
Folks this has been pre-planned for a while, Syria has been on the list for a long time and now their time has come up. Do you really want another unnecessary war? Do you want your children fighting for another corporate war? I keep adding General Clark’s admonition of America’s plan to take over the Middle East because it is playing itself out right in front of the world! This isn’t a necessary war!
General Wesley Clark: "America will take out 7 countries in 5 years"
According to Former NATO supreme allied commander, former presidential candidate and 4 star US General Wesley Clark that they had received a memo that America is going to take out 7 countries in the Middle East starting with Iraq, Libya, Syria Lebanon Sudan, Somalia, and finally Iran. It is amazing that even if it is taking longer than originally planned, how these things that were planned years ago are being achieved in front of our eyes.
Folks, haven’t we spread enough blood shed and death around the world? This isn’t a necessary war!
Is anybody stilll under the impresssion that the world checks with the U.S> before doiung anything. SOrrry, Jefff, I guess no one told you.
No matter what, we will never be friends with Muslims. They will never be able to trust them.
Jeff;
"Way to go Mr. President"? Do you mean to say it is President Obama's fault that Russian troops are in Syria?
Where have you been in the last forty years?
Prophecy Alert Ezekiel 38:1-5 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Son of man, set thy face against Gog(leader of Russin People), the land of Magog(southern Russia), the chief prince(ruler) of Meshech(Moscow) and Tubal(Tubolsk), and prophesy against him, And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal.
And I will turn thee back (Russia has been turned back to Communism they tried to be pro-west ever day now they become more Anti-west anti-Israel), and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: Persia (IRAN), Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
So Alan, your saying Russia actually has a chance to become a kind and compassionate society again after shedding the western warring corrupt ways, right?
In our short history we have bombed over 65 countries. We have been a country for about 236 years and have been at war for 215 of those years.
No Trust . . I think He is saying something about a (possible) Jewish interpretation of the Old Testament prophet Ezekiel. The comment seems to allude to Russian aims of aggression against the Jewish people's and/or state. I am not sure of the tie in through "Gog"
It is a very interesting comment. Perhaps I will show it to some family who are religious scholars. Hope you are enjoying the day, : )
if you have the time watch on You Tube ...... Russia and the gathering of nations to Armageddon.
Russia Communism ran from 1917-1991
Became a Capitalist state 1991-1999
Yeltsin Left Putin took over and they have Turned Back to their Communistic Ways 2000 onwards.
"I ask you to Forgive me for not fullfilling some hopes of those people who believed that we would be able to jump from the grey, stagnating, totalitarian past into a rich and civilised future in one go."
part of Yeltsin's resignation TV broadcast. Dec 31, 1999
Hello Truth&Logic, in another post you asked if I wan the 1% blogger. No I'm not but he did have similar ideas about the banksters. In any event I hope you are having a good day!
It's O.K. That was my teenage son; he likes to get on my account and "play", i.e. try to be part of the dialog, sometimes. Sorry for any offense!
Why exactly do we expect Russia to act differently than it has on Syria? Can we not see that Syria is a microcosm of Russia? For decades a strong ruler has governed both countries -- effectively denying citizens a say so in their government. If Russia helps fix this in Syria, it might have to fix it next at home. Why would Putin want to do that at when Syria has become a diversion at home where he needs to play up Russia's strength in the world? Better to stick with the old script and keep on raiding the offices of political opponents or drumming up bogus charges against businessmen. Forget Russia then. When the ground begins to shake below your feet, you stick with your friends. Though the steamroller of the Information Age is getting closer and closer to their nose, the Putins, the al-Assads and the Ayatollahs of this world are too drunk with power to get out of the way.
Stupid comment judging through zionist western eyes. I am always amazed at american's arrogance (and total ignorance) regarding this subject.
AMERICANS. STAY THE @!$%# OUT OF THIS. IT AINT YOUR USINESS !!!!
Wanna be helpful? Squeeze the israelis if you dare and correct the Palestinian tragedy which you are responsible for. The israeli morons are killing kids with american weapons and tanks and demolishing entire villages with CATERPILLAR bulldozers.
STOP all that @!$%# THEN come and talk about Syria. Otherwise, you guys are all zionist puppets repeating the israeli mantra which is " destroy and weaken every Arabic country there is. USING ANY EXCUSE ... (and steal their oil too).
Sooooo screw you all. Hope you all go broke ... very soon.
sounds like you missed your prozac today. lol i agree, we should stay out of the middle east. let them slaughter each other till there is a few left, then we'll deal with who's left. that would save a Huge amount of money that we could use on the people here at home.
the israelis are killing kids. yeah, right. i think its the other way around. good propaganda thou.
Gotta love Moscow. "We are strongly opposed to external interference in Syria! Here, Syria, have some weapons."
@conrad-185098
What does a civil war in syria have to do with jews?
If we could just get the rebels in Syria to vote for Obama in November, then he would be happy to protect them. All it takes is a vote in November to get protection. Its called protection money and anybody from Chicago knows about the Outfit and how it can be very useful for protection. Oh yeah, if they could unionize then they would get a no-show job from Obama too. Vote Democratic and all your problems are solved.
afl-cio
You are a clown puppet
AFL_CIO is a total ass clown
Obama is an ass clown.
if the historically coward French want to do something, then let them. but dont let them try to drag historically brave nations into making a mistake.
Russia sending a "small" contingent of troops to Syria, which the UN now admits is in a full fledged civil war - Anybody remember when Germany sent a small contingent to defend its intests in Spain during its civil war? Whole thing turned into a training/sales demonstration/field trial of weapons systems, a prelude to WWII. Do history repeat itself? Do a bear bleep in the woods?
The League of Nations was useless. The United Nations has become useless. Yes, history does repeat itself, eh?
How dare the russians counter act our Empire. The Syrians want to be free like us or is it they hate us for our freedoms. Our propaganda is so screwed up i forget what I'm supposed to believe.
So I just believe that the Criminal Jewish Bank cartel that this American empire by the US currency we let them create out of thin air. The potus and all most of our representitives work for a global agenda and not for "we the people"
Remember the USS Liberty?
Someday the arabs are gonna get sick of us killing them for Israel.
“Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce…and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate.” – President James Garfield, 2 weeks before his assassination.
Who controls the food supply controls the people;
who controls the energy can control continents;
who controls the money can control the world.
Henery Kissinger, 1973
First of all the Federal Reserve is an INDEPENTDANT Agency and that means basically that there is NO other agency of government which can OVERRULE actions that we take.
Don Alan Greenspan Organized Criminal Private Federal Reserve Chairman
It's not the Itailian Mafia calling the shots.
"TRUTH is the enemy of the STATE"
Paul Joseph Goebbels was a German politician and Reich Minister of Propaganda in Nazi Germany
Where are those WMD again? How about that Gulf of Tonkin? Operation Northwood? Hillary, those were new Russian Helicopters correct?
Is it time to raise the debt ceiling again the PRIVATE Cartel banks need more of our Interest payments
WAKE UP , the government and the Private Banking CARTEL are CONNING all of us for their benefit.
“Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with a seat missing, but it hurts.”
-Naked Gun
The Fed is an independent agency that the Government cannot control? Really? So the fact that the head of the Fed. serves at the pleasure and appointment of the President means what exactly?? Why is it that stupid people who resort to making up "facts" always seem to be Jew haters? Your own personal story is fine I don't need you to tell me about the others.
i think, not in the 1%, forgot to take his prozac today. lol
what i thought was funny. "someday the arabs are going to get sick of us killing all of them". lol and just exactly what, lol are they, going to, do about it. lol
thanks, i needed a good laugh, listening to him spew all that garbage propaganda was really funny. have a good day.
It fell on deaf ears
We're already busy. If the Russians want to jump in I don't see where it will make much difference since they've always been tight with the Syrians anyway. I'm tired of the whole world thinking that the U.S. can solve everyone's problems when we have plenty to deal with at home.
I agree we need to concentrate on America
Hillary keep your trap shut and move on to something more important.
Actually if you read a lot of the comments posted daily it would seem it is not the world asking for US help but the US thinking it can solve everyones problems.
obama has failed again as a leader. He doesn't have the balls to even challenge Russia's movements. obama has left the door open for Russia to take over Syria and control their country. Did the obama puppy run and hide??
If our country is going to survive we have to get rid of the most incompetent president we have ever had to endure
If America wants to survive, we need to keep our noses out of third-world sectarian clusterf@#&s.
Obama is doing the right thing: thinking before leaping in headfirst. Let the French and Russians get their hands caught in a meat-grinder, if they so wish.
john....you think obama is doing the right thing?? I disagree as he did not resign. He prefers to do nothing when it counts.
Kind of like Bush didn't resign after the disgraces of 9-11-01, the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the 2008 recession?
Brain dead fellow americans OBOMBER DOES NOT WORK FOR " We the People" just like Bush didn't. The next bozo won't either.
They work for the Banking Syndicate it does not matter who you vote for nothing will change this countrys government has been hijacked in the name of freedom and liberty. The only thing is it is their freedom and their liberty NOT OURS. Follow the Money its easy, it all leads to the 5 private banking familys.
Notinthe1% . . what do you propose then, that those 5 families be removed from power?? What exactly is your proposed solution?
vageorge is just upset because Obama won't start another war for Israel. It is time to stop letting Israelis and their Zionist friends in America, dictate US ME policies.
On a side note - Israel and her stooge American politicians and media clowns are now trying to get Jonathon Pollard released from prison. They are being led by Eliot Engle, Eric Cantor and Wolf Blitzer. A petition is being circulated in Congress to free Pollard, one of the worst traitors in American history.
Here is a link to the story.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/16/opinion/roland-martin-pollard/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
1% proposes you all grow some balls and take back control of your country instead of just complaining about it. Talk will only get you so far. If you continue on this path then you will be forever in debt and have lives used to fight pointless wars to protect their investments. Why not demand the fed bank be turned over to the state so you can elect who controls it.
Those 5 banking families should definitely be removed from power, by whatever means is necessary. Perhaps our military could be used for good.
Russia sure squeaked this one past the U.N.
Right on sparrow. They didn't wait for a security council approval or a veto from U S.
Why should we care what happens to Syria? who gives a @!$%# about them when we have huge problems back at home...
We need to focus on America and not some third world @!$%# hole.
You must mean hide our heads in the sand until the enemy walks up and takes us out. How incredibly stupid. You sound as ignorant as the one that has nearly destroyed our country...obama
Why must we stick are damn noses always in the @!$%# you sound a little scared that Syria is going to come attack us lol.. I say bring it on 8)
We have the Largest Army in the world ...hmm say 50 million households own Guns that's around 150 Million guns in Citizens hands, lol really think someone is going to just steam roll us.. Think for a minute 8) If they get through our military and police then they have to deal with us....
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
I agree with you on Obama definitively one of the Worst Presidents in our Nations History.
Actually Syria individually is not the concern. The concern is the instability in the Mideast. Egypt has disbanded their Parliament, Syria in civil war with the Russians taking sides, Afghanistan is suffering internal war, as Iraq, Pakistan, and others. Iran is hell bent to start a war. If allowed to continue and escalate then we just may be facing an international enemy as they join together. With either Russia or Iran leading them . Similar to the German beginning of WW II
We would smack down any Mideast country and Russia does not want War they are just bolstering protection for the base they have stationed...We would do the same exact thing.
Here is more info to calm your fears.
The FBI estimates that there are over 200 million privately-owned firearms in the US. If you add those owned by the military, law enforcement agencies and museums, there is probably about 1 gun per person in the country.
We can handle any conflict be it at home or abroad...
There are more guns than that ! Personally I would rather have the fight anywhere but on US soil.
The guns and heavy weaponry belonging to the local, state, and federal gov't forces are not yours. LOL. In the US, there is a 90 day supply of ammo available commercially on the Just in Time manufacturing supply schedule including EU imports. Your millions of members in a national homegrown militia are good for 6 months only. Then what? Foreign help? Buy smuggled ammo from the MX Cartels? Think it through Rambo.
BIG AL from Big MaC
Land your troops in Texas....Welcome but the Motto is...Don't mess with Texas
The big Russian bear is growling again.But when the leaders of Syria are indicted for crimes against humanity like their buddies in hezbollah are...they will just shrug their shoulders.With Iran..,Russia will step aside... And when the ayatollahs and the perverted Islamic revolution fall in Iran,after a multinational coalition attacks them,Syria will rise up and hand their leaders also.Meanwhile Russia is colaborating with massive murder and horrible crimes..They must be judged accordingly and most Arabs and Muslims in the mideast will do that.Soon Russia might have to send troops to protect its embassies in the mideastSeems like the horrible crimes and brutality of the Soviet Union has just been changed for the smaller but equally brutal Russian dictators!.
Bart
Lives lost is insignificant to profit
Does anyone else think we are blowing this a bit out of proportion? They are sending troops to protect their base. If there was a civil war in Saudi Arabia, do you not think we would send extra troops to our bases to protect them, assuming we did not want to get involved in other ways? Pretty sure we would.
That is all this seems like.
They supported the Syrians in every war with Israel and had a presence in Syria as well yet sent no troops. They view Obama as a weak, empty suit and this is their way of slapping his face in public. If you're comfortable with Russian troops in an area where 40% of the world's oil comes from you're probably unaware Russia has their own oil and a war in the Middle East, shutting off oil, while injurious to them, would absolutely kill America. As awful as Obama seems now, history is going to look back at his election as the defining point where America went from a successful nation hitting a speed bump, to a failed nothing like all prior empires. Obama's kinfolk in history would be Nero.
So now Russia is going in there and they are going to Putin all over them too.
What an ignorant, senseless comment
If it is found that Russian troops are getting involved in the Syrian conflict instead of simply protecting their base, then the US will have the green light to go ahead and help the rebels.
Im watching and seeing a return to fighting the Russians by Proxy. This time though, it might actually lead to full on global war. As unlikely as that seems now, just watch these stories vary carefully. It is when you start seeing Russia and the US increasingly taking pot shots publicly at each other, and when both nations start using obvious euphemisms for military deployments, that is when you know we are on a path to all out war.
Time to bring in the bombers! Drop some nukes now! This is an insult to the USA! Syria is US territory for chrissakes. Those commies are just pushing us too far.
If Obama won't take 'em on, Mitt will do the job and start WW3 and bring on the Endtimes as the Bible has prophesied. USA! USA!
Your membership at the nut house was just renewed
Been lost ever since Woodstock ended haven't you.
I was in the Army and in Asia when Woodstock occurred. Sure wish I hadn't missed it though!
OTL, I think you've pretty captured the theme of the posts from the many war lovers on this thread.
Yep! Dang Right!
Why we is got to show them Ruskies who's in charge of the world. And we ain't no how going to let the Commie send choppers while we sit on our hands. We got nukes. Got them B52s. Got them hi-tech stealth, too. And we aint afraid to use them.
Yep! We is going to show everybody that America wears only the white hat.
"....and the radioactive glare, gave proof through the night, that our cities were not there........"
Syria is U.S. territory? WHAT???
Everybody is freaking out about the russians....sounds like old times and a comfort to to know who the enemy really is...i miss those days. Now to reality...Russia and China are now friends...Russia knew that China was a growing power and threat, so Russia made overtures to the Chinese government and they had a summit. The result of that summit was closer co-operation on matters ranging from agriculture to security. So those of you thinking that Russia should be " smacked down " because American households have more guns than anybody else...don't forget China, the tiger of the east. China has the world's largest military...not the U.S.
I don't think the U.S. or NATO should get involved in Syria, but keep a very close eye on the situation...and prepare. Hope for the best...but expect the worst. Gog and Magog are coming!
Remember Clinton's claim about a "dramatic escalation" -- Russia sending helicopters to Syria? Where are the big headlines now that it turns out to be a lie.
Why all these headlines making people think RUSSIA is escalating the war? Isn't the media, the State Department, the CIA, and their friends in the "democratic" state of Saudi Arabia working overtime to promote a civil war with the aim of installing a puppet government of the oil speculators?
Day after day of war propaganda headlines to convince the American people to support ANOTHER war.
A few troops has a funny habit of turning into a lot of troops. But Russia has always had problems fighting far from there own border. Arm the rebels, let the people of Syria defend themselves and decide there own fate.
Americans do love a war when it's half a world away in someone else's neighborhood. Sick infatuation.
I have mixed emotions about this. It was only a few months ago that Bahrain was putting down unarmed demonstrators with a lot of bloodshed. However, we weren't about to lose basing rights for our ships in the Persian Gulf, so we did next to nothing. Just a mild rebuke. Concerning the French, well, they did most of the actual air interdiction of Libyan ground forces, thereby considerably aiding the rebels. I would describe the situation in Syria as not so much a civil war but a slaughter. I remember Reagan used B-1s and cruise missiles against Quaddafi's presidential palace and, by so doing, defused the situation for 20+ years. Equivalent action should probably have been taken against Assad by now.
Nicely outmaneuvered by the Russians. We will not risk a big-power confrontation over that sandbox.
You are right. We will wave our fists around the next few days, but that will be all we hear. Its done.
With obama as Dictator does anyone really believe what "our" government tells us?
Based on some palatable sources who recant Hillary's statement about the helicopters, I'm suspicious about the Russian troops to Syria statement. However, the statement was made by our defense dept. and I trust their validity more than any political sources.
soon russia will send their troops to protect their interest in cuba,venezuela,angola,and all other places close by to americans where they are protecting their interests,it is just rich people protecting their money,only poor people are in the armed forces so if they die rich people dont care,they just will make speeches.
don't get into this mess.
Blaming Obama for the Russians protecting their business and military assets is kind of pointless. And all you nut jobs talking about us causing WW3 by not helping out Syria are forgetting something very important. We won't be fighting China or any other major power. Unlike WW2, we all trade so much now thanks to globalization, that it's economic suicide to disrupt it. So quit claiming that the sky is falling and makea real argument for what ever points you're trying to prove.
So you feel we didn't trade globaly in 1940?
To the same extent? And with partners besides Europe? No, not really. Please prove me wrong though if you know something I don't though.
Of course not to the same extent, because we have much faster means now. But it was our export embargo on Japan that caused them to want to launch an attack on us. It wasn't just Europe we exported to.
I'm guessing that our military leaders do not want to get involved with Syria short of some CIA type monitoring. I also believe Russia and China do not want to get involved. But I am quite shure that why Russia and China are not on board with the UN actions is because they believe the west wants to take over and/or control Syria.
Putin and Obama get along really well and they will work something out.
I hope Russia will waste a lot of time, effort, troops, and trillions of Rubles there like we've done in other middle east hell holes.