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A photo from the Edmonton Police Service in Canada shows Travis Brandon Baumgartner, 21.
A man sought in a fatal armored-car robbery at the University of Alberta was arrested Saturday at a U.S. border crossing, police told Canadian media.
Edmonton police Sgt. Dave Reitzel said Travis Baumgartner, 21, was stopped at the crossing in Lynden, Wash., the CBC reported. The crossing is southeast of Vancouver, British Columbia, and north of Seattle.
Baumgartner had been sought since the four armored-car guards he was working with were shot at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Alberta, early Friday. Three of the guards were killed, one critically wounded. No students were involved, police said.
Police said that Baumgartner was alone in a Ford F-150 pickup when he was stopped and that they found money in the truck. Reuters reported that Mike Milne, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman in Seattle, said Baumgartner had a backpack with $334,000 in Canadian currency.
Reuter reported that Scott Pattison, a spokesman for the Edmonton Police Service, said no extradition proceedings were necessary because Baumgartner had been caught at the border. Customs officials said Baumgartner would be transferred to Canadian custody Saturday night.
Baumgartner has been charged with three counts of first-degree murder and one count of attempted murder. He and four other guards with G4S Cash Solutions were loading money into bank machines on the campus when the shooting occurred, police said. Michelle Shegelski , 26; Eddie Rejano, 39; and Brian Ilesic, 35, were killed, The Associated Press reported. Another guard was critically injured.
Baumgartner lived with his mother and step-sister in Sherwood Park, just east of Edmonton, the AP said.
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first, haha beaches!!
Gotta love immaturity
Oh My Congratulations!
He will have plenty of time to "mature" in the big house, if Canada does not have a death penalty.
I believe that "immaturity" crack was for Tommmmmy...and rightly so.
@tommmmmmy,well played sir....
Hey, Canada ----- Your laws do not allow you to execute this cold blooded murderer. However, you could put him absolute isolation, with no television, no radio, nothing to read, no visitors, able to converse with no other prisoners and house him in a 3' x 6' cell for the rest of his days. The lives of five families ruined by just plain greed. Senseless.
Not only was he greedy but I bet he was one spoiled brat! You will find that most of the people that are in prison were either spoiled rotten or abused, its usually one or the other.
Those Washington State and Victoria BC crossing check points are tough - he should have put his F-150 to use and did some off roadin'. That Lynden crossing at one time was known for stripping your car, then telling you they found nothing, then telling you to put it back together your self. At the Victoria Foot Ferry landing one of our "friends" got sent home (we were going to Vancouver to see Pink Floyd). Some Domestic thing on his record, dumbass Sneak Boy (our name from the Hood for this individual).
I thought impulse shoppers were bad - impulse robbers don't even get a refund policy.
Question #1; Premeditated or Impulse?
I have a feeling this was planned - but he did such a poor job of planning, that he probably can get away with saying he acted on impulse. Time to check the cell phone records and computer files... ummmm, disregard computer files and cell phone records, and nannies, and and and. It's not in Florida? Is Canada above or below Florida when it comes to verdicts - hard to be more outrageous than Fla.
Most of the people in prison have been abused. The spoiled brats usually have lawyers to get them off because they can afford them.
Brats? The job pays a dollar and a half an hour and it's a shame a lumper has to die for that. For all you aspiring stupid guards - just cut the seal, take the money, and reseal the bag.
So, for all you wonderful, enlightened, compassionate Canadians, don't you feel just great that you'll have to pay for this scumbags room and board for the next 50 or 60 years, rather than seeing him really pay for his crime with HIS life?
Hmmm... Clearly, this is a very evil person who deserves to die. In prison he will have hero status.
It will be interesting to see his outcome with the Canadian justice system.
In Texas, and many other states, he would die, in some states, sooner than in others.
For those carping that the death penalty is more expensive than life in prison... The average daily incarceration cost is about $93, all things considered. 30 years of that is a little over one million $$$$... !!
The quote from Forrest Gump comes to mind: "Stupid is as stupid does."
where do you live at Whistleberries? $93 bucks a day seems kind of high, you must live in California. In GA I've read it costs $45 bucks a day.
@disabledveteran - this is Canada, not only will he get television, something to read, unlimited visitors and other inmates to hang-around with, he will get to vote, sue to for inadequate treatment, and only due 5-6 years...welcome to Canadian justice.
What a great Ad for FORD F-150's - Thanks MSNBC. Keep the Corporations healthy so they can have more for the shareholder, and Politicians - less employees is my motto.
I'm still excited about Tommmmmy being first...way cool.
kraussk
They probably feel great that their tax dollars haven't been used to snuff out the life of any wrongly accused. In the U.S., since 1973, 129 people from 26 states have been released from death row as the result of subsequent evidence of innocence (not released on technicalities). So drop the smug, moral superiority attitude.
Want to see a list of names of the people that YOU would have murdered?
cence-list-those-freed-death-row (remove the space in "inno cence")
Of course you won't look.
Funny, big Tommmmmmmmmmmmmm.
NolanKnows: you know nothing. He may get tv and books but he won't get unlimited visitors, he certainly doesn't get to vote (where the @!$%# do you get that @!$%#), no lawsuits and 4-5 years? Maybe a book for yourself wouldn't be such a bad idea. Educate yourself a tiny bit.
DisabledVeteran, observer
With our murder rate, you wish to advise Canada on crime and punishment?
Seems to me that life in prision without parole is a much worse penalty than the death penalty.
Death is easy, life in prison isn't.
iust goes to show you you can run but you cant hide
Hi Folks - a point of interest in the Criminal Justice System:
1. In Punishment there are two "options" for deterrence from committing the crime - again by that person or by someone else in the general population
a. Specific Deterrence (i.e. Death Penalty) if used means that person will never commit a crime again. It also can be used as a general detrrence for the population who learn that the death penalty was used as punishment.
b. General Deterrence (i.e. Death Penalty, Life without Parole or even Life minimum of 25 years) means that the general population "learns and realizes" that they will not commit the crime because they do not want to lose their freedom thru incarceration/punishment such as was meted out to the criminal. Or commonly said: "don't do the crime if you can't do the time" quote from Baretta tv series in the 70s.
This is no movie ... this douchebag has affected many lives of his victims!
And doesn't the dummy realize that only the oil companies have the licence to take lives for greed ...
And did he think he could "sneak" across the border ..............
Stupidity run rampant!!!!
They "sneak" across the border ALL the time in the southern sector of the United States. Maybe he thought he just blend right here in the US.
He is a POS! The RCMP always gets their man! (always)
Even though Canada has to deal with this murderer...to bad they couldn't let Washington state take over the crime. Washington state has the death penalty and Canada doesn't.
no 1 could ever find me play n hide n seek.
& we all wanted to do the same to our coworkers @ some point.
Hey Steveo, maybe I'm a better person than I thought I was, because I have never, ever wanted to murder any of my co-workers, even ones that i despised. You say ALL people want to do this? Am I unique in this, have all of you wanted to murder your co-workers??
These posts bring out every crack-pot. When I think things can't get any worse . . . . . . . . . . . .. . it's now expected.
The total craziness of the incidents from around the world get absolutely INSANE [to be expected ???]
And the response from many people show such a LACK of character - an integrity - forget "intelligence" [who needs that these days !!]
I think the world's level of moral consciousness have preceded the earliest of cavemen based on the percetnage of remarks here! Even cavemen got into a rampage only when they needed to hunt & survive.
It might be a good idea that a lot more people should put their brains toward some 'exercise' - ummm , sort of like practicing "thinking"
Can THAT be expected??? IDK
wow...what's wrong with people? and to get caught at border crossing with money in hand. surely he was begging to get caught.
Why are these people so damn violent...
Look at it. There is a soulless organism. Never has it felt empathy. Never has it felt sorrow for any but itself. Not so much a sick mind as not really human, more an animal living on instinct and held back ONLY by those deterrents that it thinks it can't dodge. In other words, it's been trying to get away with ignorant self serving crap at the expense of others all its life. I have a hard time believing there were not MANY warning signs flashing like light house beacons in its background that would have disqualified it from that job. Really is a shame for those who died because either some one didn't do their job, or ignored the flashing warnings to do a friend or relative a favor by qualifying it for a job with more temptation than this creature of opportunity could ever pass up.
Scumbag....I know they won't hang him in Canada, but they should put him in some frozen hell near the arctic circle and let him rot.
Just set him down somewhere in the Arctic Circle and let him try to walk out past the polar bears.
I thought Canada was a frozen "hell" (however, technically speaking hell can't be frozen, brimstone and all that rubbish, eh?), but without quibbling, lets just agree he is already in a frozen hell.
Be sure to slather him in meat sauce first ...and put an apple in his mouth.
just to be technical... if frozen, he wouldn't rot either...maybe must get freezer burnt
More violence from Canada. Maybe the US should build a fence.
That works both ways. The first thing most criminals from the US do is try to make it up to Canada cause there is no death penalty. And dont be surprised if he gets a much lighter sentence than he would there. So it is pretty stupid of us to go there isnt it.
SHar-2704637 - Sorry, but I have been told that the death penalty is no deterrent in committing a violent crime so I guess it doesn't matter. Unless, of course, the death penalty is a deterrent and the people I've been listening to have been misinformed.
Correct xsited1, it is no deterrent. Not only that, those who whine about their tax dollars being used to house a prisoner for life need to do their research. It costs a whole lot more to give a prisoner the death sentence than it does to just give them life and let them rot in prison. People who think otherwise need to do their research! They don't think about the endless appeals, the cost of those appeals, the cost of transporting a prisoner from prison to court, etc. This is all info easily found on one's computer but most seem to be too lazy to look it up.
Allie, you are talking about people with such limited cranial ability that they would like the appeals process largely eliminated so that we can execute even more innocent people than we already do. Until it's a loved one of theirs who is falsely accused.
Allie
A lifer gets just about as many appeals, and depending on their age they could live 25 more years longer than an executed prisoner. It also depends on the state you're in. In Ca. it's extremely expensive for someone to be on death row, because they never get around to killing them. Not so in Tx. or Fla. and some of the other states.
No one can say for certain that the death penalty is or is not a deterrent. We will never know how many murders weren't committed because of the death penalty. On the other hand there are also those who are not deterred by the death penalty, because they don't think they will be caught.
The debate about which is cheaper, to fry someone or give them life is a stupid argument I feel. The only thing that makes it more expensive is the unending appeal process. Stiffen the rules of evidence, make prosecutors do a little work and make sure the case is air tight. So many DA are only trying to get notches in their guns for future political reasons. Stupid me, I've always thought that the reason we have courts is to find justice and apply the laws. The prosecutors should be just as interested in proving guilt as well as innocents or the other way around. Killers put in prison, still have the ability to kill. And, just because you're sent to prison doesn't mean you should have to be a gladiator.
Paul Harvey had a good line on punishment which I like. He said, "they didn't hang horse thieves as an example for other horse thieves, they hung them to keep them from stealing horses". I feel the same about killers. I think the evidence should be solid. No giving deals to co-defendants just to get them to testify. I have a really hard time with circumstantial evidence also. So many prosecutors convince the jury that 1 + 1 + 1 can equal 5 just because they get an expert and someone trying to same their own butt to say it is and that's circumstantial evidence of a crime. BS. No body, no witnesses, no solid beyond a reasonable doubt evidance and I say no death penalty.
Sad that people find it so easy to kill one another, but I think humans have it in our genes to all be killers, given the right conditions. It's just that being in socity has made the majority of the people have a nagging restraint keeping it in check. But, all of the debate go on and everyones right ever so often. Even a blind hog finds an accorn once in a while.
He ended threee lives - ruined another and destroyed his own. FOr money. WHat a jerk,
Oh I don't know ... I am real inclined to believe that a person who is executed will NOT be out in the general population to kill anyone again. So yeah the death penalty is a HUGH deterrent!
Exactly. The name of the game is crime and punishment. Being deterred from being involved in a future scenario of crime and punishment is really up to the next potential criminal and not the Peoples (the state's) business' at all.
Death penalty doesn't seem to be a deterrant because people who do things like this seem to think they're so smart, they'll never get caught. The golden ring in front of them is so much shinier than the long term golden life.
If I were guilty of a similar crime and faced either death or LWOP, I'd beg for death as soon as possible. I can't understand them wanting to stay there for many years knowing they'll never be free again. Not to mention spending the years with my conscience tormenting me for my actions. But, there again, you have to have a conscience and a soul to FEEL the guilt that such monster owns physically, never emotionally.
@Shar: One word: Extradition. This is how it works: Commit a capital crime in the US, flee to Canada, get caught, get sent back to the US. Canada does not grant asylum to murderers.
Hoodie, if you want to avoid execution, you run to Mexico. They absolutely WON'T extradite anyone until and unless the death penalty is off the table.
Of course there is also the option of simply NOT committing the crime in the first place.
I'm of the opinion that the only reason why the death penalty has become less of an effective deterrent is because of the manner in which it is applied. The Supreme Court has made the standard for application of the death penalty so strict that the prisoner will die of old age before the appeals process ends. A cold blooded murderer who was 2 weeks away from turning 18, and JOKED about being able to get away with it because he was a minor, had his sentenced reduced to life in prison without parole because of his age. A clinical idiot (low IQ) planned and then executed a kidnapping, robbery and murder had his sentence reduced because "his IQ is too low to understand the implications of his actions". I guess ignorance of the law is now an excuse. While there are a few cases in which innocent people have been convicted and sentenced to death, that number is dwarfed by the number of people who are injured or killed by repeat offenders annually. Want to make the death penalty a true deterrent? Make it mandatory with VERY limited appeals for violent repeat offenders. How can anyone truly believe that the world wouldn't be a better place if repeat offenders were simply strung up rather than sent to prisons with amenities that they don't have outside of prison? Perhaps the correct response is to return to prisons like the old Yuma Territorial prison. Look them away in cells 23 hours a day, or make them work to grow their own food and pay their other living expenses.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio spends less per prisoner than almost any other Sheriff in the US. That's why he's able to provide English as a Second Language classes, GED prep classes and counseling for those prisoners who want it. He doesn't waste money on amenities, he invests in in trying to rehabilitate those who can be saved.
He will probably get 10 years, since Cananda is so soft on Capital Crime -sigh-
Just because we actually honor our citizens' right to life as enshrined in our constitution doesn't mean we're soft on crime. A first degree murder conviction here yields an automatic life sentence without parole for 25 years, the judge can really only add to or strip the parole.
I guess seals don't fall under that "citizens' right to life", huh, EU?
You're generalizing, rbjk0174s, I've never supported the seal hunt; but it will continue for the foreseeable future because we have a conservative government with a hard on for hunting and an antipathy for wildlife and the environment in addition to a left wing opposition supportive of multiculturalism and thus willing to make apologist arguments for the savage and barbaric cultural traditions of the Inuit people.
First lets spell Canada correctly. And second check your facts about the Canadian legal system before you make yourself look foolish. Canada may not take part in the barbaric practice of Capital Punishment, They do have Life with out the possibility of parole for capital cases such as this one.
@rbjk0174s and @ Rick-2097667
With out a doubt, you two have the stupidest, most ignorant statements I read in a long time. Perhaps you could both travel a little farther from the trailer park. Taco bell and Piggly wiggling just aren't expanding your limited intelligence. Bravo for making Americans look like dumbazz pucks.
Barbaric practice? The death penalty is perhaps too humane. The worse punishment may be to let this guy rot in prison for 25 to life.
I am guessing you have not had a family member killed by some crazy moron or you would believe in capital punishment! What about the dead persons right to life? They no longer have a say so I guess they don't matter! We could be overrun with murders. I'm sure you believe in abortion but let the murderer go free! Hopefully in your neighborhood with all the pedophiles too!
Niece1964, no, I haven't, and you make it out like I support setting this guy free, I don't, I'd like to see him receive life without parole. Hypothetical what-ifs won't sway me on the subject of capital punishment; I will say that maybe if I had a murdered relative I could viscerally support it, but it wouldn't change the fact that if you support the death penalty, and one innocent person is, through the course of this so called justice, killed, than by the central tenet of your argument you too deserve to be killed, because you killed an innocent person. This is known as the capital punishment paradox.
And yes I'm 100% pro-choice, because we also have the right to security of the person in Canada, as per section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, meaning that the individual has control of their body, not the government.
NO CAPITAL Punishment! Put them in jail for LIFE! .... Where they can spend all their time planning to kill again!
Niece, I have had family members and friends murdered, and I am strongly opposed to the death penalty. It's been used to kill innocent people -- 2 in Texas, alone, that we know of. You want to be a blood-thirsty, anti-Christian person, that's your prerogative. But don't apply your warped logic to the rest of us.
niece, although I haven't had a family member killed I'd bet I would still disagree with you. Being in prison is not, as some seem to think, a picnic. I'd much rather see the murderer of a family member of mine sitting in a cell for the rest of his life, hopefully a very long life, than have him suffer just a few hours of panic at the thought of being put to death. Killing him would only end any possibility of the hell he might endure in prison. Sorry, I'd rather know he was having to watch his back for the rest of his miserable life.
I've had family members murdered, and I am against the death penalty unless it is requested by the condemned. I wish people would stop speaking on behalf of others and making assumptions.
I am against the death penalty for many reasons.
First, is because if someone was executed on my behalf, for my own retribution; and then later, after their execution they were found to be innocent- that would place the blood on my hands and on my conscience.
Secondly, it will not bring my loved ones back, it will not bring closure, it will not answer the basic question: why?
Finally, if the time comes that I ever did seek retribution- I would want it done myself by my own hands, in a manner of my choosing.
Have you?
What an absolutely cold calculating act for this person to commit against his fellow man. Just for purely greedy motives three men have lost their lives, their loved ones lives are shattered and another clings to life. Thank God they caught this killer. America doesn't need to gain any further reputation as a haven for those who are truly evil nor have them coming from Canada to walk in our midst.
We have more than enough scum coming in from the southern borders of Texas, Arizona and California.
Yeah, there's enough homegrown scum here already :)
LEGAL scum is better than illegal scum.
Really, rbjko174s? Being raped, robbed and murdered by a legal citizen is better than being raped, robbed, and murdered by an illegal?
Gee, I'm sure that's a great comfort to anyone who's been the victim of home grown scum.
Most cold blooded killers are white and between the age of 20 to 35, I wonder where the Mexicans fit into the profile ....
Ya we have enough of our own trying to cross in to Canada
sam........ piles of headless women and men found in Mexico, killed by the drug cartels ..... id say Mexicans fit into the profile.
You guys do realize that net immigration is zero lately? More people are leaving the US than coming in....
It's a good thing it didn't happen in Florida as he would be able to claim the 'stand your ground' defense. There were four of them & they had guns & he feared for his life.
Anto_capone, you think "net immigration is zero"? Where do you come up with this stuff?
1 million + immigrants were granted citizenship in 2011 alone. Where is this "net zero" BS? Do you think 1 million Americans LEFT the USA to even that out? Where is your data to back this up?
Inside job. Hope they update the story soon. Very little info at them moment.
They must've been so shocked to be attacked by one of their own. The betrayal is almost unimaginable.
What is really disgusting about this is, killing them was unnecessary.
When they say inside job, it's only referring to the fact that he was a guard w/ the company & worked w/ the people he slaughtered. All were working the same shift so he was w/ them in the armoured truck working & knowing what he was going to do when they arrived at that bank machine on the U of A campus. He shot 4 people execution style, killing 1 female & 2 male guards immediately & leaving the 4th guard clinging to his life in the hospital. All of his male co-workers were in their 30's w/ young families & the female only 26 yrs & just married 2 mos. ago. I worked for Loomis Armoured Services back in the 90's & had to pass 3 levels of psych. tests before I was hired. And that was only to work in the vault. I was not armed at work but I know that the guards that were armed in the trucks at that time, had even more stringent testing. Its very puzzeling to me how he got this job. He had only been working there for 5 mos... it is truly a cold blooded crime.
Seems he could of thought of a nonlethal means of subduing them. Taser? Something.
I guess I'm just not enough of a sociopath.
Yes, somebody seriously dropped the ball re his psych eval.
Gotta wonder what incredible fantasy people who do such things have in their head that would justify killing three people for money! Do they think they'll live happily ever after or something?! It's just insane...not like he wouldn't get caught eventually. Condolences to the families that have lost their loved ones.
what a dumbass. i live around pittsburgh, pa. and another idiot guard about the same age did the same thing except he only murdered 1 guy. he took $2.3 million and they caught him in florida 2 months later. for some 21 year old 50 or 60+ years in prison is really gonna suck. god must have loved stupid people, he made so many of them.
If he was caught with some of the money, he shouldnt be allowed to make the morning.
why can't they catch people at our southern boarders. i mean millions have slipped in????????????????????
Took the words right out of my mouth--this is news when this kind of crap happens on our southern border every second?
I see what you did there
They come in and vote as Democraps.
this guy was trying to go through the border crossing not through desert and hills in the middle of nowhere
A Canadian jew?
WTF? What does your comment mean?
Oh canada.....why? why?
How much did he get? I am glad they caught him. Saddness for the families of the guards. I hope they have a big fat insurance policy so the families are taken care of.
not likely. These are jobs with few benefits.
An ex cop here in Denver most likely did the same thing, killed several guards and stole a lot of money. Never had enough evidence to even take him to trial.
This is news??? This happens every second on our southern border!!!!
True, but on our southern border the border guards are Texans, so you can't expect much.
I can't tell for sure by the story, but if they caught him on the U.S. side, take 6 months to a year to turn him over like the canucks do to us.
Yes, let's spend the money to feed, house and provide medical care for their criminal. That'll teach 'em.
Maybe you should read the whole article before you look totally stupid. He was caught on the Canada side. It written in English so you may have a little trouble.
He *was* caught on the US side - in Lynden, Washington, at the border crossing. That's why the Canadian officer said that they didn't need an extradiction hearing - since the USA is simply denying him entry.
Article wasn't very clear on how everything worked, i had to read it about 5 times
You're still in Canada if you haven't been allowed into the US even if the border crossing is actually in the US. For instance; he could have come in by ferry from BC and not have to clear customs until he got to Seattle. ICE would put him on the next boat back north.
Hoodie-2290570,
So... I could physically be inside your house, but technically outside of it if you haven't given me permission to come in?
See how such thinking sounds utterly stupid?
As for not having to be extradited... well, that's a different story.
So they can catch illegals trying come in from the north of the border but not the south at least he was bringing money with him. Not asking for us to support him and his many kids.
Maybe he was a bored hockey fan? Whatever. What a dope. I hope that when he goes back that Canada has some Big Bubba's in their jail system. This boy needs a slow death.
They could always give him season tickets to the Maple-leafs and make him sit through the games until he kills himself....probably wouldn't make it past Christmas :D
Lol!
Guess he was going to sneak down the coast to get closer to Alcatraz. It's closed though. Visitors only.
It seems too me that this world is cracking at geometric rate with greed and selfishness. This might also explain why the world economy is falling. Just my speculation..but who am I just a Lost Soul..Lone Warrior.
lost soul,theres no reason to stay lost,you are right, the world has gone after everything but god,
Hooray for the Border Patrol. Now if the administration would just let our guys enforce the law on the southern border maybe we could put away some of the criminals coming over that border!!
lets see canadian justice will give him 20yrs and out by the time he's 40 for good behaviour.
dot com its funny you mentioned this. dhs has spent more money building up the northen border than the southern border. after fri we all know what he is trying to do. i loved it when he told that reporter no arguments like he is bonaparte. the little emperor in action lol. well after nov he will be exiled to elba in the chicago area. where we will still be spending keep him safe for life. democrats just cant stop spending other peoples money.
dotcom.....this admin has been enforcing the law on the southern border. illegals coming in are down and those getting caught are up.
nice try though.
Rob, they might buy that kool-aid in big NY, but here in the southwest, we know that there is little, if any control of the border from Mexico into the US, and it is because the administration wants it that way. Have they heard in New York yet about "Fast and Furious" ?? Enough said.
ignore the facts if you choose.
I would bet, that at times like this, there are a lot of people in Canada who wish that their country still had a death penalty. Too bad they will be supporting and hearing whiney stories about this character for the next 60 years or so as he rots in a cell...and the survivior, as well as those left behind by the ones who died, will never feel the relief of knowing that he will never have the chance to harm others in the same, or any other, fashion.
Dennis the tide is turning on the death penalty here in the US. While I have always had mixed emotions about it, I do feel in the end, we should be among the civilized countires of the world and not execute our fellow citizens. Prolly best we let the barbarian countries of the world have that one.
It's simple Rob in Warwick, every community in America should have the right to take out the garbage. Know what I mean?!
Damn....where do these people come from?? It is just such a foreign concept to me the lack of humanity these types of people have.
lets see if i murder my 3 co-workers, i bet can get away with a good chunk of cash???? Never mind the part about the likehood of getting away with it is minute, where is the humanity???
He's a psychopath and has no conscience, and thus, no remorse. If you add stupidity to the mix, you've got a very dangerous human being.
So much for peaceful, non-violent, no 2nd amendment socialist welfare state canada, don't tell me all the propaganda was a lie! This and their gayporn cannibals really make ya wanna think twice before spending any time or tourist dollars there, we really don't want to support the continuous devolution of their culture, they're in their weimar days as it is...
Canada is just like any other country in the world. Many of the tourist dollars that the U.S. receives come from Canadians (suprise!). I also wasn't aware there was a difference between a Bathsalt Cannibal and a Gayporn Cannibal, I had always thought the definition just meant 'A human who feeds on the flesh of other humans', but perhaps since you're American, it has a different meaning. Sick behavior is sick behavior, it doesn't matter what country the criminal comes from.
this has nothing to do w/politics
kuricen....for these angry right wing radicals......EVERYTHING is about politics.
seems like your the loser here tonite. hope you get hit by a voting booth!
canada isn't like any other country, it's the only large one without any national or cultural identity. The Quebecois hate the country and want out. The English canadians are totally saturated by American media (more canadians watch american football than the poorly rated stepsister canadian football) and suffer an inferiority complex with their big neighbor down south. Old fart canadians are obsessed with the queen and an empire that no longer exists and even when it did exist canada was considered nothing but a colonial backwater. The young ones all want to be American hipsters. There is no canadian culture. It's like a more boring North Dakota.