'Forest Boy' who hoaxed police was running from his troubles, friend says

A friend of "Forest Boy" Robin van Helsum, seen here, the Dutch man who hoaxed German authorities for nine months, has shed new light on the troubled background that may have led to his elaborate deceit in an interview with NBC News.

Robin van Helsum, the "Forest Boy" who hoaxed German authorities for nine months with a fantasy about living rough in the woods, was running away from a troubled background and financial concerns, a friend of his told NBC News.

Ray van Ravensberg, Robin's childhood friend, shed new light on the Dutchman whose story -- and supposed mystery identity -- flummoxed police in Berlin and attracted headlines around the world. 


Van Helsum's scam was exposed last week after he was identified by his stepmother in The Netherlands following the distribution of a police photograph. 

Van Ravensberg said van Helsum, who ran away from home in Hengelo, a Dutch town near the border with Germany in September, came from a broken home, did not get along with his stepmother and fought constantly with his father, who was very strict.

"He started to stop with school and stop with work, and the only thing he did was sitting on the computer and, yeah, just screwing around."

'Forest Boy' mystery solved: Man admits lies over identity

Van Ravensberg said van Helsum moved out of the house and went for "room training" -- a Dutch program in which teenagers with problems at home are put into a government care program and live with groups of people their own age from similar backgrounds -- a type of youth hostel.

But then van Helsum got into more trouble, becoming a loner, spending hours on the computer and arguing with the owners of the hostel because he could no longer pay his bills.

"His life was really complicated," van Ravensberg said as he struggled to explain his friend. "He doesn’t have anything like I do -- he doesn’t have parents who will cover [him] if [he's] in financial debt, like I do. [My parents] will help me, I can talk to them."

Van Ravensberg went on to explain that a young woman whom van Helsum dated a few times, perhaps for some financial help, became pregnant.

"First she said she was a few weeks pregnant, but she was already pregnant for a longer period of time, and he didnt want to have the child, and she wanted to keep it."

That might have been the turning point for van Helsum. Shortly afterward, he ran away, determined to escape and start a new life somewhere, somehow.

'Forest boy' mystery: Stumped German police release photo

Van Ravensberg said van Helsum is really smart and proved it by staying nine months in Germany without getting caught.

When he arrived in Germany, van Helsum told the police his name was Ray and he was a 17-year-old orphan -- that’s all he could remember.

The act was convincing. The Germans were intrigued by his story and provided him with care. The fantasy about living rough for five years in the German forests was so heart-rending that he became an international sensation. No one thought he could have made it up. But he did.

Van Ravensberg defended his old friend. "It started with his own life. He already had complications, and it became more and more -- financial, girlfriend, child and, yeah, his bucket was way too full.

"He just wanted to have a new bucket."

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"No one thought he could have made it up" - That's funny because I remember a few hundred, if not thousand people on here who called shenanigans.

  • 35 votes
#1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

Yeah that's what I was going to say. The part in the original story about how he had well kept fingernails, etc just screamed hoax.

  • 11 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

"he wanted to have a new bucket"

dont we all sometimes...puts a whole new perpsective on moms/dads who abandon their children.

they are simply irresponsible, selfish little pricks.

you create it, you should raise it. PERIOD.

  • 48 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:54 PM EDT

I feel bad for him if he truly had no good guidance in his youth. But if he was just stubborn and didn't OBEY his father as he should have, I suppose this is how he wanted to learn his life lessons - the HARD way.

  • 23 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

I'm sure the cops knew it too. But I'm glad they did the right thing by posting his picture everywhere trying to discover the truth. They did their job, if they would have just turned him away and told him to piss off, there's no way of knowing if he was telling the truth or not.

Kudos to the German cops.

  • 22 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

In the article it is stated that he had a complicated life because he had to pay bills. Over here we don't call that a "complicated" life, we just call it life. Also noted was that he decided to run away after his gf got pregnant and wanted the baby, but he didn't. I don't understand the sympathy for "Forest Boy." He doesn't want to pay bills or be responsible for his child. Such a hard life. I don't think anyone has faced that much hardship before. Sarcasm off.

  • 52 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

I said all along that this was a hoax. All they had to do was some simple blood work and they could have figured out certain immunizations that a "forest boy" would not have had. This douche needs to own his bucket and stop trying to pawn it off on the rest of us.

  • 17 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

Damn I am good! The very first time I ever heard this story was here about two weeks ago. Right from the start, I knew exactly what was up with this "forrest boy" character -- --well before the truth came out. It was a hoax --he was running away from a bad situation back @ home -- not getting a long with his step-mom -- taking advantage of social program and the kindness of others in Germany to get by. Don't know why the authorities took so long to catch on to this scam. I am by no means a "hard-ass' anti-social services kind of guy --Actaully I am very much for helping others who really need a little help --but this guy is no poor little kid --he is a grown man who was just a "playing' the people of Germany and running away from his own responsiblitie. This kind of hoax makes it bad for those who really need social programs.

  • 16 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

He sounds a lot like my ex, a lying brat who simply never wanted to grow up and be responsible.

I may be oversimplifying a bit. Some of the blame must be laid on the parents. Although we don't know his home life, it seems his parents never taught him even how to be responsible, which, poor or not, is something everyone should learn at one point.

  • 7 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

Marie -

Don't be too quick to blame the parents. My ex had a PhD. Her sister was a prostitute, junky, had felonious assault and thdft charges. My wife's sons are almost as disparate, one has no sense of responsibility nor any motivation at all. Some kids just don't learn.

You can guess which side of the genetics/environment argument I come down on.

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

In this world of entitlement taught to our kids, the young adults now, by schools, universities, TV, and Hollywood right now, parents haven't got a chance anymore! The kids turn on you, spit on the principles, values, and morals you have taught them and tell the parents to "F" off. The young adults in this generation aren't worth the love, time, effort, and money poured into them!

  • 6 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

So he's a liar, a loser and soon to be dead beat dad. This story was no story from the start!

  • 10 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

for the troll in me that says boo hoo...poor forest boy...send him back to the forest...he can hook up with robin hood and friar tuck...hope a floriduh face eater don't get him...

  • 2 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

yep, he had a lot of time to think up a story! What a disappointing outcome. Vacation over sonny ..... now get a job and be a responsible father!

  • 4 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

You're not a boy. You're suppose to act like a man. The world throws curve balls at alot of us every day. We don't go running off and making up stories to escape it. Grow up and deal with your responsibilities!

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

I have yet to hear any reason as to why the German police did not release his photo 8 months ago. I mean seriously?...they release the photo and within 48 hours they have his identity. What took so long?

  • 5 votes
#1.15 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

The best part of this story is that his friend has enough compassion to try and understand the guy rather than just ripping him apart ruthlessly for not being a self-made millionaire by age 16. I think it goes to show that parental care and love is actually quite powerful and important. Maybe he'll get the help he needs so he can pull his life together.

  • 5 votes
#1.16 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

Marie Haughey,

"He sounds a lot like my ex, a lying brat who simply never wanted to grow up and be responsible."

He also sounds a lot like me:

"becoming a loner, spending hours on the computer"

Except that I don't get in trouble.

  • 2 votes
#1.17 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

him and his baby moma... should fly to the U.S.to have the kid...so they can stay here and live off the system...SEE HE AIN'T THAT SMART OR HE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF IT JUST LIKE THE ILLEGALS DO EVERYDAY...what a dumas...

  • 6 votes
#1.18 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

SCREW IT ALL!!!! I WANT A NEW BUCKET!!!! What a concept! Lost my house, husband left me the kids all grew up and moved away. My life sucks! I want a new bucket!!!! Do I have to go to Germany? Maybe I could just go up to Canada and wander out of the woods dressed all raggedy like and tell em I was kidnapped by Bigfoot 10 years ago and just escaped! HOO HOO I have a plan!

  • 14 votes
#1.19 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

I do not feel sorry for this kid:1. He has disrespected his family they tried to discipline him and 2. he defide that, they decided ok we will put you with kids your age and maybe you will turn around and 3. he gets a girl pregnant (so she says); so he runs away until he finds someone else where he thinks the grass is greener. I think that no matter what we will always have these who want to deceive the public.

  • 1 vote
#1.20 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

This story portrays way too much sympathy for this young man. He came from a broken home and couldn't get along with his step mother, fought a lot with his father who was too strict. I have a feeling he didn't get along with his step mother because she was tired of supporting him, and he fought with his father because his father urged him to get off his butt and get a job. This young man looks to me like just another guy who didn't want to grow up and get a job and take care of himself or his responsibilities. We have people like him everywhere. I am really surprised at the gentle way this story is being handled. I am especially shocked that it took 8 or 9 months for German officials to release his photo and find out who he is rather than just pamper him and give him exactly what he was looking for all along.

  • 2 votes
#1.21 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:04 PM EDT

Mo-563393

You would need to have Bigfoot DNA in order for people to believe you. Then you can get a new bucket, but only if you have the DNA...

  • 1 vote
#1.22 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:28 PM EDT

so all he wants is to play on the computer ,screw around and not work . he wants someone to support him while he does what he pleases gee who wouldnt but that is not the way it is he a selfish little prick , a liar , con artist , and people wondered how he picked up on useing the computer so fast LOL I hope he gets arrested and has to pay back what the germans did for him . then forced to get a job and support the child he created . I knew from the start 9 months ago this could not have been true him being in the woods all those years . pretending he was younger then he was . and that pic of him tells it all with that smirk on his face .

  • 1 vote
#1.23 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:26 AM EDT

you guys! come on! where's your empathy? the kid's 17! male brains aren't fully mature till age 29! hell i'm pushing 40 (38 next month) and my life's still messy. nobody's perfect. and it sounds like his home life sucked. put yourself in his shoes like his friend did and stop being so judgemental. people who seem not to get love and attention in the proper way seek it out anyway they can. the publicity gave the kid that.

    #1.24 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:32 AM EDT

    He's not 17...he is 20.. and that's old enough to know that life is hard and we all have to deal with it... My home life was messy as well... but I cant use that as an excuse to be lazy and not take care of my responsibilities.. This man needs to pull his head out of his @$# and grow up!!

      #1.25 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:59 AM EDT
      Reply

      How is having a "strict dad" trouble? Would you rather have NO DAD at all? I only read EXCUSES for acting as a brat. He needs to learn from his mistakes by repaying with WORK the suffering of all those other people trying to get him "to feel better" . I do not read where he ever attempted to do ANYTHING, OTHER THAN JUST COMPLAIN.

      • 30 votes
      Reply#2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

      Apparently Dad wasn't strict enough.

      • 4 votes
      #2.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

      You have no idea what his life was like with a step-mother & 'strict' is many times another word for abusive. It seems as though he has no one who's cared about him Since he was very young. I wonder why so many people love to think the worst. They must all be such caring human(?) beings.I hope they never find themselves alone as a young teen with no family to care what happens to them.

      • 2 votes
      #2.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

      Sandusky was available back then.

        #2.3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:32 PM EDT
        Reply

        He was really smart. Yeah that's what all con men are until they get caught.

        • 25 votes
        Reply#3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

        he ain't that smart...he should have flew himself and baby moma to the U.S....and had the baby...like the illegals do...and lived off the system...

        • 3 votes
        #3.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:32 PM EDT
        Reply

        German authorities must be quite gullable, because I knew his story was BS the moment that I first heard it.

        • 11 votes
        Reply#4 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

        Woody -- I really don't believe the Germans seriously believed him, but since the guy was not talking, they simply had no other explanation. Poor baby (sarc), daddy was too strict? Dad probably wanted him to get a job or his act together instead of loafing and playing with the computer all day. Meanwhile, he had a nice holiday in Germany at the expense of the German govt.

        • 8 votes
        #4.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:08 PM EDT
        Reply

        The Germans believed Hitler, why not Forest Boy?

        • 19 votes
        Reply#5 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:16 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarOld Man-1218204Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        You don't have to be German to be suckered in by a politician. Just look at how many Americans believe Obama when he tells them how great he is.

        • 20 votes
        #5.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

        @Old Man: OR who think Mitt Romney care about anyone but rich foks like himself -- OR has a clue about what real working people have to do to get by in life (without Daddy's name & trust fund)...

        • 11 votes
        #5.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

        Old Man and Rob - You have both perfectly described each politician/candidate - Obama and Romney. Look what slugs we have to choose from to run our country! Bleh to both of them and all of them!

        • 11 votes
        #5.3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

        Most people with trust funds are democrats. Their parents were hard working republicans...

        • 9 votes
        #5.4 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

        good question, whatever happened to "we the people"? why can't we the people run our own country?! if we ran our country instead of politicians there would be no need for taxes as long as every able body did their part.

        • 2 votes
        #5.5 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

        @ MEGAN ADAMS,

        If you're saying that because of the KENNEDYS...I don't remember any of the elders being republican...or who might you be talking about? Don't be vague.

        • 1 vote
        #5.6 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

        I did not say that I like Romney. However, he is the lesser of two evils. At least Romney is a capitalist, not a socialist like Obama. If Obama gets another four years our economy will be totally destroyed. If you want historical proof that socialism does not work, look at Russia, China, and a few others.

        • 7 votes
        #5.7 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

        Scarletbirds: We are supposed to run the country....that's a Democracy; however, corporations and billionaires have the money to "buy" politicians that we don't have. Unfortunately, we have the best government money can buy.....unfortunately, it ain't the one we need or want or the one that will do anything for middle America.

        • 2 votes
        #5.8 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

        Oh, I didn't realize this was a political story...my mistake.

        • 1 vote
        #5.9 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

        The U.S. is NOT a democracy - it's a REPUBLIC.

        • 3 votes
        #5.10 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

        AllPeopleRights, Wrote:

        Old Man and Rob - You have both perfectly described each politician/candidate - Obama and Romney. Look what slugs we have to choose from to run our country! Bleh to both of them and all of them!

        Right on! We have no real choice, because either way we are screwed. But back to this little scammer, he should have to do community service or something to re-pay the German people!

        • 1 vote
        #5.11 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

        How did this become a political debate?

        • 3 votes
        #5.12 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

        USAFCOP,

        Everything on Newsvine eventually becomes a political debate, whether it has anything to do with politics or not.

        • 4 votes
        #5.13 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:54 PM EDT
        Reply

        Wait, this guy is really 20. That means he was probably 19 when he ran away...why didn't he just move out and tell his family to screw off if he didn't like them? What's the age of adulthood in the Netherlands, 21? For cryin out loud, just get a friggin job and move out, it's not hard!

        • 24 votes
        Reply#6 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

        I hear you, but this young adult only wanted to play video games from the sounds of it. When would he have time to get a job and move out? lol

        • 14 votes
        #6.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

        thats what I was thinking, "ran away from home" really?? I call that "leaving", unhappy with with whats going on? get a life, job, ect. or just go live in the forest off the land and when they find you tell them your a hermit and want to be left alone

        • 12 votes
        #6.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

        My job is making and playing video games. Don't see what's so bad about that. Some people sweep floors for a living and that's considered more honorable that being a video game programmer by some middle-aged women with five kids.

        • 8 votes
        #6.3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

        yes but you probably went to school for that , and that is Your profession, he didn't. He was only playing not working like you.

        • 16 votes
        #6.4 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

        I hope you were not referring to me zafada. Like happyjoy said, you are making a living out of it and good for you. I bet it is an awesom job and you support yourself by doing so. Forest boy on the other hand just wanted to play and have no responsiblity.

        You are correct. I am middle-aged. And I love games. No children. I do have a great job and contribute to society which is more than I can say for this young lad.

        Funny how you turned this story all about you and it wasn't. And I would keep your day job and not start guessing peoples ages, how many kids etc. on the internet because you are probably a better programmer/gamer than that.

        • 7 votes
        #6.5 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

        zafada - stick with video game making, you struggle at logical reasoning.

        there's a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE between making video games for a living, or even playing them (as a tester) for a living...and simply wasting your life away playing video games and doing NOTHING productive with your life.

        my mother WISHES video games were never invented, my father might have been some help around the house if they had been. he still wastes a good 2-3 hrs of his day playing games, meanwhile they are behind on their taxes, have a mountain of medical bills...and he cant be bothered to go through all the junk that fills his 2 garages and sell it on ebay or craigs list to pay down his debts.

        im not blaming video games, it's all on my dad....love him dearly, but this is hands down the absolute WORST thing about him.

        I cant imagine what his life would have been like if the games that exist now, existed when he was 16-18...I doubt he ever would have gotten anything that resembled a real job.

        *edited to add - that floor cleaner actually does something quite productive. you create a product that does the opposite, it sucks the productivity out of people. everyone needs to relax, but your profession isnt "honorable"...not even close.

        it might pay well, but not honorable. it doesnt have to be though, it's ENTERTAINMENT.

        • 14 votes
        #6.6 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:27 PM EDT

        I always get a chuckle at my buddy's dad, he spends a couple/few hours playing Call of Duty every other day, which I find sort of peculiar at his age. But after retiring from IBM after 40 years of service, I guess he's earned the right to do whatever the #$% he wants, lol.

        Not at all the case with this kid. He needs to know that society isn't going to support him playing video games. LOL what am I talking about, I don't support that behavior, but my government gives those people my money anyway!

        • 7 votes
        #6.7 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

        My 27 year old roommate is from the Netherlands. He has no sense of individual responsibility or respect for others. When he needs money for rent or to pay the bills daddy back home gives him everything. He "owes" his parents several thousand dollars but I know he'll never pay them back. He has a steady job here he just prefers to spend all his money on booze and entertainment like DVDs and video games. I know I can't generalize his behavior to the whole country but I see a trend. It's worrying that their young people have no desire to face up to adult responsibilities and stop relying on other people to solve their problems.

        • 8 votes
        #6.8 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

        Just because you know one spoiled Dutchman (which is one out of 15 million), you're considering that a trend? You can just go around the world and you'll definitely be able to find at least one just like him in every country.

        • 3 votes
        #6.9 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

        I agree with Susi-Oh just because you know one spoiled brat from the Netherlands doesn't mean they are all like that. You do not know what his agreement is with his parents and what they are willing to do for their child. Maybe they want to spoil him and don't care about getting paid back. There are many other young adults from the Netherlands living in Holland or around the world that support themselves.

        One or two people getting their way or not getting their way does not indicate in anyway that every young adult from that country is that way. Life in Europe is different than what we live here in North America we cannot speak on trending based off of what we see from a small group of people that we encounter ourselves.

        Might I say that I know many young adults which take care of themselves without the help of their parents and are doing well. I speak from experience as my entire extended family lives in the Netherlands and works very hard for everything they have.

          #6.10 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

          I agree with Susi-Oh just because you know one spoiled brat from the Netherlands doesn't mean they are all like that. You do not know what his agreement is with his parents and what they are willing to do for their child. Maybe they want to spoil him and don't care about getting paid back. There are many other young adults from the Netherlands living in Holland or around the world that support themselves.

          One or two people getting their way or not getting their way does not indicate in anyway that every young adult from that country is that way. Life in Europe is different than what we live here in North America we cannot speak on trending based off of what we see from a small group of people that we encounter ourselves.

          Might I say that I know many young adults which take care of themselves without the help of their parents and are doing well. I speak from experience as my entire extended family lives in the Netherlands and works very hard for everything they have.

            #6.11 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

            zafada_dynamic;

            Being a Video Game designer and playing such games, is your "job". The word is Job, whether it is sweeping floors or designing and trying out games. This "Forest Boy" is a different story!

            • 1 vote
            #6.12 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

            hope his baby mama...flys to the united states to have the kid...we need more people on the system...Thank you government people...especially obama...

              #6.13 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:18 PM EDT
              Reply

              Yeah I don't know anybody who read this and didn't immediately call BS. It was obviously a made up story, but it got the media some attention so they tried to convince everyone it was real.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#7 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

              Obviously this kid has depression/mental issues. He was in that youth hostel. He could have worked but 'chose' not to. He argued with the hostel owners for not having money to pay his way? Uhhhmmm, you're not in a position to argue - unless you feel you were owed something.

              • 9 votes
              Reply#8 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

              Depression/Mental Issues? That's the go to for everything. Kid has problems, must be the parents. A kid says he can't stand his dad, the dad must be abusive. A teenager says she isn't allowed to go out with friends, she "forgets" to mention UNTIL she raises her grades and does her chores without being reminded every 5 minutes. There's always an excuse, there's always someone to blame, there's always something! Ticks me off!!!

              The freaking kid doesn't have depression, he has histrionic personality disorder!!! HAHAHA

              • 3 votes
              #8.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:04 PM EDT
              Reply

              so he was lazy and wanted a free ride....

              had a strict dad? Boo to the Hoo

              • 19 votes
              Reply#9 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

              not a free ride - a new bucket!

              • 3 votes
              #9.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

              He can have a new bucket. But that doesn't mean his old bucket's going to just disappear!

              • 3 votes
              #9.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

              You want a "new bucket"??? Get a #$@&* job and buy yourself one!

              • 9 votes
              #9.3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

              Well said, Rob! And, to women and men of all ages, take care of any children you produce!

              • 5 votes
              #9.4 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

              there's a hole in the bucket...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBHdZj-qkeQ

              • 1 vote
              #9.5 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:36 PM EDT
              Reply

              Even though his story was "made up" is caused enough concern to publish is photo.

              By doing that, he has been located and hopefully no longer a bother to the German Police.

              Hopefully he will receive the mental help he needs.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#10 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

              or a pretty new bucket

              • 4 votes
              #10.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

              His most obvious issue is a lack of maturity. Mental help isn't going to accomplish much because that is not where the problem lies....

              • 1 vote
              #10.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

              he's a puss...

              • 1 vote
              #10.3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:47 PM EDT
              Reply

              His friend has condensed it to where even a moron should understand Forest Boy's motivation: "his bucket was way too full...he just wanted to have a new bucket."

              • 2 votes
              Reply#11 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

              perhaps a pretty blue one with a little shovel

              • 9 votes
              #11.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:20 PM EDT
              Reply

              This guy is just a bum who wants somebody, ANYBODY to support him so that he can do just what he wants and nothing more. It seems he was fine in the hostel as long as HE did not have to pay his own way.The using a girlfriend bit really backfired since she wanted support also. Two of a kind it seems. I hope the Germans, even though they were gullible, get some of the money back that they spent on him. The time and effort are, of course, gone for good. At least, with the wide spread notoriety, he won't be able to pull this scam again.

              • 9 votes
              Reply#12 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:44 PM EDT

              naw, the german police deserve nothing...they should have been able to see through that crap story from the start...or at the very least, been super suspect...that photo should have been shown 9 months ago when he was caught. lazy police work...period.

              • 3 votes
              #12.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:32 PM EDT
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              I have a friend who did the same thing, we worked together at a Ben & Jerry's and he got his girlfriend pregnant. Her Mexican father threatened to kill him so he bought a one way ticket to Hawaii and left the next day! I still get postcards from him every so often, he's making it out there some how! I'd LOVE for my 'bucket' to be Hawaii lol! He was pretty young then at 17, not that I think running away from your pregnant girlfriend is "OK" but who wants an angry gun wielding father chasing after you?

              • 2 votes
              Reply#13 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

              here's hoping the girl he knocked up was far more responsible than your friend

              • 12 votes
              #13.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

              Tamara - My sympathies to your friend's child.

              • 3 votes
              #13.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

              I don't blame the dad; he must have smelled deadbeat on that kid...but it does highlight an important point for this generation, one that might not be always 100% effective, but is better than the apparently undesirable alternative:

              Condoms. Buy them. (Or don't have sex with devoutly--hah, wait--incredibly hypocritical devout Catholic girls.)

              • 1 vote
              #13.3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:13 PM EDT

              There are plenty of loser bucket-heads in Honolulu sleeping in the parks, eating free meals, and stealing. All they need is a blanket and a shopping cart. That's their home. There is a loser zombie army of homeless beggars in Honolulu that are human garbage. "Got a spare dollar? I have diseases and can't work, alcoholism and drug addiction you know. Can't help myself."

              • 1 vote
              #13.4 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:20 PM EDT
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              Bunk him with the barefoot bandit.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#14 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

              and send him to the showers with sandusky...

                #14.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:42 PM EDT
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                Wow, not too much sympathy on this thread. You must have all been raised by such loving parents. (NOT)

                This boy obviously wasn't blessed with loving and patient parents, and actually by the attitude of these posts, I suspect most of you were raised by not too compassionate parents either.

                He is obviously depressed and making a lot of wrong decisions, then along comes his depressed young girlfriend, who decides to take advantage of his confusion. Oh, boy, child support and an easy ride for the next 18 years!

                And now the child coming into this world will most likely suffer from young, neurotic, bickering parents. Great.

                I hope the Netherlands has better mental health care than America or these kids are sadly doomed.

                • 8 votes
                Reply#15 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

                The thing is, he obviously just wanted to waste the day away doing nothing productive. The moment his dad would step up and be a parent and tell him that he needs to get a job, he ran away to a hostel and did the same thing there.

                This kid is a bum and nothing more.

                • 13 votes
                #15.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

                Shark - My parents were incredibly compassionate - as long as everybody pulled their own weight! My parents taught us honesty (this kid lies), integrity (this kid has none), responsibility (this kid doesn't want any), and assisting anyone who truly needs help. Loser, moochers, are not in the category of "needing help". So, just because you were raised by parents who just "give you everything" and made you an entitled human being, does not mean that parents who expect you to pull yourself up by the bootstraps are not compassionate people!

                You would have been LUCKY to have met my parents! Perhaps you would have learned a thing or two!

                • 4 votes
                #15.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

                Scenester, not making excuses for the kid, but really? Do you understand that depression commonly affects a person's motivation? I'm not exactly sure how it is in the Netherlands, but in some European countries it's common for kids up through their mid 20's to still reside at home. I don't see a bum here, I see a pretty troubled kid.

                • 1 vote
                #15.3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

                Oh my god, you sound like my daughter talking about her hoodlum friends. She told me, they're not bad, they just have issues. She also said, their parents don't care, they can smoke pot in front of them. So, I said, just remember that I care SOOO much that I'm willing to go to jail if need be. You so much as light a cigarette in front of me and you'll be eating drywall. She tells her friends I'm psycho strict...yeah, maybe I am by today's standards. I expect homework done and chores handled on time. No stickers for brushing her teeth either, not at 16! I paid $4,000.00 for braces and does she brush her teeth? No! Can I not take her to the dentist when her teeth are hurting? No, I'll have to pay through the butt because her deadbeat dad hasn't paid a penny in CS since 2008 and my husband makes too much money for her to go on healthy families and her dad won't sign papers giving my husband shared custody in order to get her on his insurance. And pay I will but ask me if she cares? Ask me if she's appreciative? Ask me if she is well behaved? My answer is no to all of that. And so what if her dad is an absent dad, my dad, my brothers, my husband they all more than make up for his absence! Does she appreciate them , does she respect them? NO! Can you tell I'm a little ticked? Teenagers, they're horrible inventions.

                • 1 vote
                #15.4 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:17 PM EDT
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                Huh, so it's not just American kids. The world is doomed..... Well, OK, the world will be OK. It's the human race that's doomed....

                • 3 votes
                Reply#16 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                either way this youth is toubled and i feel sorry for him. i hope he gets the care he needs and good guidance and support.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#17 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

                I guess if we all took to the woods when things got tough the cities would be ghost towns! Time to grow up kiddo.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#18 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                Maybee it was the effen Haircut someone gave him! What Did they freakin do? Put a Bowl over his head? i would run away too! lol

                • 5 votes
                Reply#19 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

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                  #19.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:17 PM EDT
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                  I believed him. Dumb kid.

                    Reply#20 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                    Don't believe everything you read... and only half of what you see.

                    • 1 vote
                    #20.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

                    Damn freeloader. He would fit in well with the occupy protesters.

                      #20.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:08 PM EDT
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                      I will apologize ahead of time for anyone offended. My father died when I was 14, and my mother died the week after I turned 18. I got a job! I found a cheap apartment and I made my own way. No lying, no cheating, just work and built up a life for myself. Female, totally alone. Isn't his life difficult? Well, wah, wah, wah!

                      My brother, only 2 years old than I was, had 2 kids by the time he was 19. He worked, he married the woman he got pregnant, and he raised 2 boys. Well, wah, wah, wah, again for this young man.

                      Life is tough! Real life is tough! but, then you make it what you will. This kid is a loser looking for a hand-out. Wah, wah, wah! Sorry, I have no sympathy!

                      • 9 votes
                      Reply#21 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                      Who is going to manage his Farmville account if he gets a job? ;)

                      • 4 votes
                      #21.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:57 PM EDT
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                      This sounds too common today. My son just dropped class to the point of bieng kicked out of a pretty nice Ivy League college. Of course talking to him about it, it is my fault because I had him when I was 15, as stated in this nice video of his life:

                      He fails to mention that he went to an elite private school from 6th Grade until he graduated high school and never worked until he quit wrestling for college. All he did was sports and academics. Is this a new thing where this age group feels entitled to live for nothing? Last I checked, at least for most of us, living and freedom isn't free, given, or a god given right, otherwise we could get our nutrients from the sun. Also, regarding the statements about parents providing money when kids are in trouble. Yeah, I did in many cases, until I found out he was spending it on beer. My hard earned money so my son can play video games and drink, right!

                      • 9 votes
                      Reply#22 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

                      Hope the kid gets help. I sucks that @!$%# like this happens.

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#23 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                      How old are you kid? Shouldn't you be in school? You sound like my 16 yr old daughter.

                        #23.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                        I'm 45 and your an idiot.

                        • 4 votes
                        #23.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

                        Dude that is so awsome! Steven and Richard are the man! Where did you get tat avatar? Did you know that kid had the chicken pox when Richard shot that scene? Cute kid back then hottie now!

                        • 1 vote
                        #23.3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

                        O*EqualJDG,

                        When I first read your post I thought, "What the hell is he talking about? Who are Steven and Richard, and what do they have to do with anything mountainbike was saying?" Only after a little reflection did I realize you were talking about mountainbike's little picture.

                          #23.4 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:12 PM EDT

                          That is awsome, where did you get that avatar? Steven and Richard are the man! That kid had the chicken pox when Richard shot that scene. Cute kid then and and a hottie now!

                            #23.5 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:43 PM EDT
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                            Gotta say I have absolutely no sympathy for him and, in fact, I really hope they take some kind of legal action against him.

                            From the sound of things, this guy's friend really didn't do much to paint him as someone worthy of sympathy. He was a kid who didn't like his dad (no shocker, many boys don't like their dads, ever heard of Oedipus Complex?), he's a school drop-out, a job quitter, he got a girl pregnant and wanted to just up and abandon her, he even got thrown out of a government charity because he couldn't pay his bills. "He'd spend all day on the computer just screwing around."

                            There's a word for young adults like this: it's "loser". He ran away from life and ran away from his problems because apparently they were too much of a hassle. Life is only as complicated as you make it for yourself. Rather than take responsibility for his actions, he ran off to Germany and told a big lie.

                            Personally I liked this guy better when I was under the assumption that it was just some jackass kid playing a prank/hoax...with the "shocking" revelations of this friend, I just have no sympathy for him whatsoever.

                            I hope he gets deported back to his father who in turn sends him straight into the military. Sounds like this guy is in desperate need of training in discipline and respect.

                            • 7 votes
                            Reply#24 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                            You actually believe the Oedipus Complex is accurate? Gee, you need to think about what you are told. Pretty much anything Sigmund Freud (or shall I say, Fraud) is a bunch of hocus-pocus. In fact, that Sigmund Freud guy is a bigger fraud than this "forest boy".

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

                            "Anything Sigmund says." Forgot to put that in.

                              #24.2 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:05 PM EDT

                              Thanks rj 17 I thought i was missing some pertinent info here , but you confirmed my initial reaction, punk *** loser. No person on this planet should put another morsel of food or drop of water in his mouth until he takes responsibity for his life and the baby he helped make.

                                #24.3 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:38 PM EDT

                                @NFlames

                                So you're saying that no kid (boys, specifically) has ever grown up hating/resenting their father while in their teens? I know I did. I know this Forest Boy apparently did. I know my older brothers did. I know my best friend did. And I know at least 3 of my cousins did.

                                Granted, I won't say that's enough of a sample size to prove it, but it certainly does show a common trend developing.

                                But regardless of your beliefs in psychological theory, I have to ask why you'd bother trying to derail the conversation by attacking something in my post in a way that does nothing to contradict my point, rather it just spouts out that you don't believe in Freud.

                                  #24.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:19 AM EDT
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                                  It's OK kid, we all feel like our bucket is full sometimes....you will figure it out and put all of this behind you..your youth will be a great asset and you will look back on this as a great learning experience. And don;t forget to get a publisher or a psyhcology firm to take your story so you can make some $$:)....then you will be able to take of the things you tried to run from..it's all good...

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#25 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

                                  sarcasm has it's advantages

                                    #25.1 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:40 PM EDT
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