The U.S. military has recommended administrative punishments, but no criminal charges, for as many as seven troops involved in the burning of Muslim holy books at a NATO base in Afghanistan that sparked deadly clashes.
A military official told NBC News that a classified investigation into how service members burned copies of the Quran earlier this year is now complete.
The investigation made its way to the Pentagon a few days ago and is now in the hands of the service branch chiefs for review.
The investigative report recommends that U.S. Army soldiers and at least one U.S. Navy sailor receive the punishment -- likely a letter of reprimand or a drop in rank and pay -- for their roles in the book burnings.
As many as 12 service members were involved in the chain of events that led to the burning of the religious materials, the military official said, adding that more punishments could be coming.
At least one of the soldiers involved is an officer, the official told NBC News.
None of the names of the military members involved have been released.
The burning took place in February when several Qurans were thrown in the garbage and then sent to the burn pit for incineration. The actions set off days of violent riots throughout Afghanistan.
The incident tapped into anti-foreign sentiment fueled by a popular perception that foreign troops disrespect Afghan culture and Islam.
NATO later apologized for the burning of the holy texts.
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What every report on this happening fails to acknowledge is the FACT that these qurans were being used as communication between prisoners and were intelligence items. Once retrieved, they were burned. WTF is the problem with that.
That's what I just said earlier. I'm not surprised that the American people aren't aware of this fact. People, even my own family members, look at me like I have two heads when I correct them about this story. I believe 1/100 of the facts I get from the news outlets, because all the facts are skewed.
The argument that some these Qurans had been used by prisoners to communicate is meaningless. The prisoners no longer had the books, remember. They could have been placed on a pallet in the street with a Free Qurans sign on them and from a strategic standpoint probably would have made no difference by then. If they did still pose a real threat then whoever made the decision to turn them over to Afghans to burn needs an IQ check at a minimum.
what i read is that they were accidentally thrown in the trash. this was NOT a premeditated event where a group of soldiers got to together and decided to get their kicks by burning books
You Damn Politicians better get your act together,THE USA IS FREE,and just because you want another term in office,YOU BETTER DAMN WELL PRESERVE THE USA AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR<if you want to be slime balls and sell the USA out to get votes then You will have sold your soul and should be damned forever.No POLITICS AND YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE AND PUT IN PRISON FOR TREASON<FOR NOT UPHOLDING OUR CONSTITUTION
Punish those who started the war not those who are brave enough to put on a marked uniform and stand out as a true freedom fighter in face of the cowards who kill and maim thousands in the name of Alah! In the bible which has been burned there is a verse that says an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. I venture a few would agree. Leave the troops alone and go find those who blew up the Budda statues and punish them! Thousands of years of buddist culture blown up by sick weak little minded men hell bent on controlling women and keeping their people stupid! If they can blow up statues of budda they should not be crying about some paper and ink! There is a difference between replacable and that which is not. We cannot replace our unity in this country if our policy makers continue to favor what makes their re-election chances better or to save face in eye of the public or world. We owe nothing as a nation attacked by and that continues to harbor and cultivate further hatread of the free world! They can either get with the program and evolve, or they can put on a uniform and fight fair on the battle field otherwise they are nothing less than criminals and fugitives and need to be caught tried and exicuted! There is no such thing as I'm sorry in war, no the president will not allow this to occur and yet he will also not publicly admit there was no wrong. These are not Jews sent to the gas chambers these are books made from paper and no less sacred than a rosary or statue of budda, theirs is the religious war let Alah punish the infidels if he can!
P.S. I'm a liberal! How ya like me now?
What a joke- total smoke & mirrors side show
burning of Muslim holy books. IT IS ABOUT TIME BURN IT ALL THAT BOOK IS BULL CRAP BURN .........................IT ALL
We respect their religion (religious freedom) and the Muslim Brotherhod gets in power in Egypt and women's right go back a thousand years. We don't really want them to be in charge but now the military won't turn over power and the clown that was Mubarak's military right hand man claims victory. They are back at Arab Spring.
You know what. @!$%# all of your books. The stupid Bible the stupid Quran. What a bunch of useless arguing over some myths written 2000 years ago. Ever hear of an atheist fighting with an agnostic over a @!$%#ing worthless book full of fables?
Difference is, you can burn a bible in the USA and Christians will pray for you. Not chop off your stupid atheist arrogant head. The day you can peer into infinity and explain to me how there is no God in a way that makes any sense at all, I still won't care because I'm putting my hopes in a loving heavenly Father of all creation to rescue man from this pickle and raise me from the dead. Something your heartless expanding and contracting irrational meaningless and statically defiant universe cannot offer. I think what you believe is stupid.
It's in a christian dominated society you have the right to burn any book you want.
Nice try lumping Western Christians in with murdering Muslims and mega murdering atheist dictatorships.
Nice try categorizing the bible with the Koran, but if you don't understand the differnce, I'm not buying your estimation of my intelligence for believing that the writers of the bible were not liars.I have actually learned about it though, I wasn't educated by the discovery channel.
I cant believe that anyone would burn such a "good" book. We all know that the proper use would be as toilet paper.
The koran or quran isn't religious material. It's an assemblage of mistaken identification to the moon god Lah along with other pieces from other religions added in, as opposed to the sun god Ra for example. When Lah became the main deity {out of 259 other deities several thousand years ago (incidentally one for each day of the ancient calendar year)} it began to be called 'the god' or al-lah. That's why the crescent moon is always associated with allah. Lah the moon god had four daughters and are represented as stars with the crescent moon. Above, below, to the left but usually to the right. Two or even all four daughters might be shown with Lah but usually only one. Muhammad Ibn `Abd Allāh Ibn `Abd al-Muttalib, of course, didn't know that Lah was derived from a pagan belief in a moon god. Archeologists were only able to discover those polytheistic roots in the last century or so. So Muhammad basically plagarized a whole lot of things from the Old & New Testaments, sewing together bits & pieces, and the rest he invented out of his imagination. Obviously this god-moon god cannot in any sense be accorded a serious equal co-partnership when addressing God. God is real, His roots are real and Lah the moon god's are just a pagan misunderstanding from long ago. 3000 years ago anyone mentioning Lah would have understood the moon god was being referred to. But after 2400 years passed Muhammad mistakenly thought Lah or Allah was a term to be used when referring to the real God when in actuality it refers to Lah the moon god. And there isn't a moon god or sun god or earth god, fire god, river god, fish god etc. Al-ra,of course, would be the god , the sun god if it would have become the main deity and Muhammad still wouldn't have known the roots of Al-ra were pagan. And Al-ra would probably be represented with a little sun. I wonder how many children Al-ra would've had? Boys or girls?
Off your meds?
@ M.T.Bar - Interesting post, do you have more ?
All you do gooders who want to appease the muslim world need to take a hard look about what they are doing to honor our religious values. They think they have the best in the world and everyone who does not believe in their religion is stupid. They burn our flag and bomb our citizens and why don't the good muslims standup and speak out about the religious radical nuts in the islamic religion.
Punishment ?? I think they should be given a good conduct medal. The book of that cult requires the destruction of American society, our government, our Constitution, our values, our religeons or, in the alternative, pay them taxes or have your head cut off. Seems to have all of the essential elements of statutory robbery in the first degree. So I'm failing to see any need whatsoever of punishment. To bad our military leaders don't have the backbone to stand up to these evil animals. They knew about Major hassan and did not have the backbone to do anything about him.....
To punish any of these guys for following orders is a crime within itself. Sometimes I feel now our leadership are becoming cowards and kissing ass to those whom hate us. The ones that were giving us problems over this were those whom want us dead. They are the same ones that would betray us and behead our soldiers and fellow Americans...the same ones that would hang our troops...drag them through the street and set them on fire, the same ones that would torture our troops and display the torture to the world. I don't hate Muslims.......I hate the pigs that desire to treat us in this matter. The politicians and the military officials behind the punishment of these soldiers should resign their office and leave with shame and coward stamp on their forehead. We give these countries billions of dollars and we build streets, power plants, schools, hospitals, fresh water, security, train their military, feed them, house them, cloth them, arm them, help them set up a government, etc...etc...... while they look for things/ways to be hostile against us. The book burning was a accident/mistake.....a judgement call by the leaders there.......For all of you whom think a punishment of any kind to these solidiers are cowards, don't understand war are how tough it is, are maybe you are a brown nosing Obama Hussein Barrack fan whom is a disgrace as president and shouldn't be within 2000 miles of the White House "The Peoples House". Our leaders are not leading.....they have become whimps! I will speak it like it is, for it seems most people today are just to scared to speak the truth. When we as a people give our sons, daughters, blood, sweat, tears, aid and billions of dollars we should demand respect and serious good faith corporotion. If we can not at least get this we should pack up and get out taking our aid and billions with us. Our politicians need to get a strong message from the people.....the billions they spend do not belong to them........it belongs to the people and if you are not willing to spill your own blood...do not send our sons and daughters.................................................................Simon
WELL said John,Long live FREEDOM
Very well said..
These brave soldiers are true American hero's and deserve the Medal of Honor. When animals over there burn both the US and Israel flag it is OK, but a book that tells the world to hate anybody not like them, is burned they get upset. These people should learn how to get along in a civilized society which they will never belong in. We should withdraw our troops now and let them kill each other and dance and party when we see them killing off each other.
They do not like us so F them.
Giving a Medal of Honor for burning a book would be like giving a Nobel Prize for a third grade essay.
Larry
these men had balls to do what they did in the name of our country. The animals over there do not even have a third grade education.
Or receiving the Noble Prize for essentially doing nothing at all!
Ooops! Already been done in 2009!
1963
come into the real world. These brave soldiers put the life on the line and showed the arabs not to mess with the USA. Where were you during Vietnam, probably hiding under the bed afraid to be drafted. I was there, unless you know what war is about you should not say a f'n word about the brave US soldiers.
What have you done with your life besides complain. Our president will go down in history as one of the greatest presidents ever. Georgie and his main man Dick the Dick Chaney will go down as one of the worst.
Screw the Muslims, and their "holy scriptures".
I'd suggest wiping my A$$ with it prior to ignition.
I wonder if that ugly muslim mob in the Sudan got punished for shooting up a christian church and burning it to the ground. Or the pack that already shot and killed checkpoint guards in retaliation for this same thing. Or all the other attacks since then.
It doesn't say anywhere in the bible that you have to get your head chopped off, burned, sawed in half, raped, shot or any thing else Mohamed (p[ss be upon him) has planned for us infidels in order to please God.
This is no more than an enemy army that prostrates itself 5 time daily to the site of the profits (sic) great slaughter in the name of a god who was testified by jin. When will we dare call it a cult army? Even the papacy can't compare to this mess. Especially now that they are better behaved and their followers more literate. Islam is the same today as always.
Argue endlessly, submission in spite truth, convert or destroy and give 1/5 of the spoils right to the rock gods accountants. You can always tell when a people are under a cult. In every one, suicide becomes a better option than valuing your own life enough to seek peace. Think about it! Suicide for honor and paradise. We have seen it many times before, and they were all taught this notion by a holy god man. From Japan to Jim Jones, from Nimrod to Islam. Human sacrifice is valued, especially your own. That's what makes the west different, better, stronger. The only time we see sacrifice as worthy, is if to save another life.
These cult armies think nothing of marching slaves 1,000,000s at a time to certain death. No loss, fewer mouths.
Our society needs to get over it's self loathing and realize we DON'T HAVE TO BE JUDGED by the lunatics (quite literally moon nuts) who moon the west 5 times daily.
For myself, I refuse to be judged or commanded by them. I have entered into no agreement with them to be sensitive to them, they aren't to my beliefs and they are not worthy to teach me anything. I will not be categorized by them in any way, if I want to buy a copy of the Koran specifically for kindling or TP I will. I won't feel like I have done a bad or insensitive thing, because I hate it. I hate anything so full of lies, and calling for my death. I have good reasons and that don't make me bad at all, only informed and discerning.
It's not loving or wise to give sympathetic ground to your sworn enemies (they swore it). All it really is is signs of a guilty conscience.
This was a hugely unfortunate incident and I don't think our military should be punished for it - it was not an intentional act of disrespect as far as we know. That said remember we invaded and occupied THEIR country and burned their holy book on their home ground.
If Muslims, or Hindus or Buddists or whatever invaded and occupied the US and then burned bibles I'm pretty sure there would be hell to pay for it, from many of you on this string. Still in reality while this incident angered and insulted Muslims everywhere, approximately 99.9% of them didn't go on a rampage, didn't kill anyone, were rational and understood it was an accident. These are the people Obama apologized to as he should have. He was not apologizing to the radical Islamists who had taken to the streets.
Muslims have traveled thousands of miles to murder people who've insulted the prophet. Ten's of thousands rioted and people died because of a burned book. Do you really believe Christians, Buddists or Hindu's would react like that? Better for apologists to stop making excuses for Muslim behavior or someday you might be on the receiving end of their rage.
Christians based on history, yes. Buddists or Hindus not so much.
AS an ex military member I am ashamed of our current leaders and the administration. In case you are feeling proud for achieving the rank you have risen to - YOU SUCK!!!!!
I'm assuming careers will be destroyed over this BS? Great for morale, way to support the troops. Very sad.
I am not sure why the un is looking at punishing US Troops.
F--k Afghanistan and F--k the Quran. Burn all of it to the ground! Call it artistic license if anything and give those guys a medal!
If the afghans are stupid enough to riot over that, those books need to be burned.
Valerie Jade Salter
I take it Your a Muslim and dont like when the table is turned.I bet you would love to live under SHARIA law.I will tell you one thing now,That under SHARIA law what you posted and said ,No matter what you believe,You would be stoned to death.For the reason I say that Your name is Valerie,and as a woman you are not permitted to speak ever unless you get permission from a cleric.The name you gave ,i presume you are a Woman.Would you really want to live with no say at all?
Another stupid example that s**t rolls down hill.
kORANS ARE SOLD AT ALL bOOKSTORES ,burn time<buy and burn
HOLY — — — _! My father, grandfather, uncles, aunts, grandmother, etc. are rolling over in their graves. They fought to make this country what it was at one time. Some were caught and tortured, but they didn't sell out our country. No, we need to leave that to our yellow-bellied, piece of crap government officials that haven't served in any wars to say what goes! Thanks to people like Jane Fonda, Hilary Clinton, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, etc. these politicians would burn our flag to save their hides! They would — — — — their mothers to save their hides, that's because they haven't served our country in any way, shape or form.
Thanks to our government officials that are a bunch of cowards and don't want to make waves!!!!
So what you think of Romneys record? Since the last 2 presidents to enter into our 3 recent wars are republican you need to ask yourself if we're better off with a president who avoids wars or one who sends others to fight and die for their agendas.
"Though an early supporter of the Vietnam War, Romney avoided military service at the height of the fighting after high school by seeking and receiving four draft deferments, according to Selective Service records. They included college deferments and a 31-month stretch as a "minister of religion" in France, a classification for Mormon missionaries that the church at the time feared was being overused. The country was cutting troop levels by the time he became eligible for the draft, and his lottery number was not called"
Our government is so hypocritical. Of course, when the president is muslim , this issue is even more irritating. There was a story several weeks ago about 600 bibles being confiscated in Iraq because they didn't want them to "poison" the minds of the youth. They also burned a bunch of them. Isn't the Bible just as sacred to Americans as the Quran is to Muslims ? In this country, we respect freedom of religion. It was founded on that principle. In Iraq, they beat up and kill Christians. When Muslims take over a country, freedom of religion disappears. It's their way or the highway ! At the rate they are breeding, they will eventually take over Europe (they are already electing officials in some countries so how far away is it for them to take over a top spot ?) Once they are in control and have a voting majority, they can make any changes they want to. They are putting out 8 children per family on average and Americans average a little over 2 per family. At that rate, they will continue to gain ground and they don't have to bomb another single target. They will take over with sheer numbers. And, when your president bows to a Saudi King, what does that tell you ? Wake up and smell the reality.
It's more sacred because we are allowed to read it.
Bearcat1
I agree ,we have a bunch of cowards in office right now,and most muslim loving sharia law ass-holes,,The muslims can do what they want when they want.Then if we do anything to retaliate we are the scum.screw them all,burn the koran ,burn baby burn,and allah and mohamed kiss my ass