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Syrian President Bashar Assad is accompanied by his wife Asma while casting his vote during a referendum on a new constitution on Feb. 26 in in Damascus.
The U.S. and U.K. are considering letting Syria’s President Bashar Assad have immunity from prosecution if he agrees to relinquish power, according to reports.
The Guardian newspaper reported that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was aiming to convince former United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan to host a peace conference to discuss the idea further.
The paper said Yemen President Ali Saleh’s departure from power – in which he was given immunity from prosecution despite the killing of civilians – was seen as a potential model.
The Telegraph newspaper said Assad would be given safe passage to Switzerland to take part in the peace talks under the plan.
The paper said British officials believed it was “worth having a go” with the idea, but added that a well-placed British government source admitted it was a “very optimistic” scenario.
'Transitional process'
The plan was drawn up following bilateral talks between the U.S./U.K. and Russia at the G-20 meeting in Mexico, where the British source said Russian president Vladimir Putin had “indicated that they were not hooked on Assad staying in power indefinitely."
P.J. Crowley, former State Department spokesman, joins Andrea Mitchell Reports to talk about how US and Russia might work together to prevent a civil war in Syria.
“Of course they go on to say that it’s not up to the international community to decide. But those of us who had bilaterals with Putin thought there was just enough out of these meetings to make it worth pursuing the objective of negotiating some sort of transitional process in Syria,” the source added, according to The Telegraph.
The Telegraph said the official was asked if this might involve immunity for Assad. “It is hard to see a negotiated solution in which one of the participants agrees voluntarily to go to the International Criminal Court,” the source replied.
The paper said Western officials hoped the peace talks in Switzerland would take place in “the next few weeks.” The summit would be attended by Assad or other Syrian government officials, opposition figures, U.N. Security Council members, and other countries such as Turkey, Saudia Arabia and possibly Iran.
Former National Security Adviser for President Carter, Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski, joins Morning Joe to discuss the latest in Egypt, the G20 summit in Mexico, China's relationship with Russia and the impact it could have on the U.S. and Syria.
“The Russians argue that the Iranians should be invited,” the British source said, according to The Telegraph. “As far as we are concerned, the answer is no. We have no illusions: it could capsize just on whether Iran is invited or not, but it is worth a try given the gravity of events.”
Three Russian ships headed for Syria, US says
A U.K. Foreign Office said in an email sent to msnbc.com and other media that the British government was continuing “to do everything we can to bring an end to the violence in Syria.”
“If Assad accepts a political transition then there is a range of options that could be considered, but there is no new offer, and the longer the killing goes on, the fewer options Assad will have,” the statement said.
“The details of any transition need to be agreed, including with the Syrian opposition, and we will continue to collect evidence so there can be no expectation on the part of those killing that they can avoid justice and accountability,” it added.
However, a Foreign Office spokesman told msnbc.com that the U.K. would not be able to intervene if Assad was given a safe haven by another country.
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Damage and destruction litter a street in the battered city of Qusayr, southwest of Homs in western Syria, on Wednesday.
As the diplomats looked for a solution to the crisis, the death toll continued to mount Thursday.
Activists told The Associated Press that two people were killed during the shelling of rebel-held areas in the city of Homs.
PhotoBlog: Syrian army shells Homs and Qusayr
Oscar Fernandez-Taranco, the U.N. assistant secretary-general for political affairs, warned on Tuesday that time was running out for the current U.N.-backed peace process for Syria.
"The Secretary-General (Ban Ki-moon) remains gravely concerned about the intensification of violence and rising death toll, as well as continued human rights abuses and unmet humanitarian needs," Fernandez-Taranco said, according to Reuters.
UN suspends Syria monitoring due to rising violence
Ban said last month that at least 10,000 people have been killed in the Syria conflict, but U.N. diplomats say the actual number is likely much higher.
"The situation in Homs is particularly alarming," Fernandez-Taranco told the 15-nation Security Council during a discussion on the Middle East, Reuters reported. "The tragic human suffering from the escalating conflict calls for urgent and concerted efforts to avoid a full-scale civil war."
Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Why is it that evil murdering dictators for the most part get to just leave their country with millions or billions of their citizens dollars and live like a king in the "West" after we brand them a terrorist and say publicly they have slaughtered their citizens indiscriminately.
Because the West is more willing to take him in than to intervene in a country's civil war, or worse- to start WWIII.
If Assad gives up his power, would not just one of his brothers or supporters/Generals just take over. Would the Syrian situation be the same.
To fix the problem wouldn't the whole regimen have to be removed?
world war 3 will come from iran not syria
WW3 Will come from America, or whats left of it.
Why the West? Let Russia take care of him. After all they are the ones keeping him in power now. I am more worried about what and who will be in charge of Syria after his departure! I bet we never thought of that!
Shows how they take care of each other they are all crooks, baby killer, and a 23 yr old girl in the USA is in a stolen car and gets shot in the chest by law enforcement and dies and its all good, disgusted with the sheep more than the evil system
Didn't we go through this once before with the Shaw of Iran ????????
Send his sorry A@@ to Tibet , Mongolia , Siberia , or some other god forsaken place. Just keep him out of the U.S. We already have enough trouble with those people, why ask for more by bringing him here ???? To bad the French no longer have Devils Island .
bob
Fly him out, get to 30,000 feet, pilot, co-pilot step into "lounge" tell Assad So long, open door, jump, deploy parachutes, watch aircraft crash, problem solved.
It's been going on longer than that. When Nguyen Van Thieu fled South Vietnam in 1975, he took about as many millions of dollars with him as Juan Peron had when he fled Argentina in exile in 1955. Which proves the adage, "Thieu can live as cheaply as Juan."
Bring Assad to the US, NO! Like ERIC NY, remove the whole regime, I agree. But that would be difficult. WWIII starts in Iran, maybe, the whole place over there is a tinder box. Toss a coin. All the sides seam to have the same bottom line. Want to be in power and down with all other religions.
Love it, Bill. Stay cool on the front range.
Ophotfoot - In response to your question, it is probably because the USA has its paw in the Syrian cookie jar.
Ophotfoot
How likely do you think he is to just walk away after this has gone so far? He will not consider the offer. All the diplomats involved know that the chances of him taking this offer is slim to none.
Assad will never take that offer, just like Gadaffi - but i hope he ends up the same way the Libyan dictator did.
Good one Bill. :)
When are you idiots and our governments going to learn? Syria will end up just like Egypt or worse. Again who do you think these rebels are? When is Obama, Clinton and the Bilderberg Group going to mind their own business...Never because they think everyones business is their business.
Eric- NY, if Assad's built his government anything like Mubarak, then sadly yes. Immunity grants to dictators only make a real difference if the people get a chance to establish a new, improved, different government--if the new boss will just be same-as-old-boss, you only end up with a "Not Guilty" murderer at large in your country and a citizenry held hostage by another murderer.
I hope otherwise (that we won't need to rinse out the full regime) of course, but given their recent words at least he and his wife have to go.
The West intervening and giving Assad asylum is not a good idea. It will only anger the radicles Islamists further if the US plays a part in sheltering him as they see him as a criminal and will want him to be held responsible for crimes during his reign and for the killing of civiians during this uprising. This will be seen as another time the West is interfering with political affairs that we should stay out of.
It's power, pure and simple. For example: in the U.S> Dick Cheney manipulated the U.S. into a far more damaging conflict than Syria or Libya and was he dent to ROmania? No; he was rewarded with a new heart. IF a ticket to Switzerland is what tthis putz wants - give it to him and let one of his erstwhile countrymen take care up cleaning him up.
Leave him in there the left loves a good dictator.
The Shah of Iran, Marcos in the Philippines---now this guy? We are a haven for mass murderers.
Shiites vs Sunni battles in Syria and Iran are not our jobs.
Let the brave Sunni Saudis handle them with other Sunni Arab League members like Kuwait, Qatar, UAE and others.
Any how they sent their forces to Bahrain.
In Syria also their proxies like al-Qaida, MB are supporting Syrian rebels.
It is better to keep away or else there will be chaos like in Libya in the initial stages and then hardline anti-west Sunni extremists will take over!
Removal of Assad will end up ultimately inventing one more enemy of the west.
Well remove him and then what? Probably replaced with someone as bad or worse, they will hate us eitherway (though I'll try to be positive and hope not and think that a good thing will come of this, oh look pigs are flying??) Anyways if this helps the situation, fine I guess. Just don't let us get to involved in this. Furthermore don't let this POS into our country. Send him to Russia, but not before taking all his money and giving it back to the people of Syria. All he gets is a ticket and a new identity from there he is on his own, but again not in the US or UK, send his butt to Russia; a warm, secluded, relaxing place like Siberia would be best. I do admit I like the plane idea while the pilots jump out. Fine with me.
It is time
Dont bring him here. Let Russia or China set him up and let us side with the majority of the people of Syria and let China and Russia deal with their anger
If he trusts the "West" to keep their word, he's a bigger idiot than I thought. It's in his best interests to stay where he is and force them to come and get him. Let's see how Russia likes seeing their only warm water port in "Western" control.
Sunni Saudi Arabia and their Arab League sent a commission of their to monitor in Syria.
It was headed by a Sudanese Gen, who was accused of genocides of millions of Christians in Darfur.
It did not work out.
Then Saudis outsourced their dirty jobs to UN and its agencies through some of their US puppets. Look at the track record of Kofi Annan himself. He sold himself earlier cheap!!!
Here Hillary, McCains, Liebermanns and many are doing dirty jobs of Saudis and co just like Iraq.
Instead of worrying about economic mess at home most are worried about Syria and Iran.
For most of us it is austerity measures.
As a part of first austerity measure, let us first wind up that useless and corrupt liabilities UN and agencies.
All I'm going to say, is that if our gov't decides to offer him assylum along with giving him immunity, then he's not welcome in my own back yard. Or better yet, let him come on account that it would be easy to float a rumor that he's trying to "start trouble" in the neighborhood, with the intent that it would be left so a few street gangs could figure out who and where he is....
Hell, once they figure out who he is, even if they don't believe the rumors and carefully planted stories that could rile people up to deal with him extra-judicially, they might decide to pop his arse anyhow, when the authorities aren't looking :p That dog would deserve a gun shot to the head :p He best keep out of the US :d He might decide to visit Detroit also; I'm sure someone there might like to go a few boxing rounds with that murdering SOB... Hell, not even just cities, some people in the south also don't take too kindly to murderers (let along mass murderers), either.... In fact, I can't imagine many ordinary American's would want this murderous dog, anywhere near their own back yard....
Stay out of it, it's an Arab problem let them deal with their own.
Hey, Assad's wife is pretty hot.....I wouldn't mind doing her!
bob1, forget Tibet... They don't seem a bad people, and have their hands full dealing with China's dealings against the Tibetans, ever since their current government came to power in the 1950s. I wouldn't wish an Assad on them.
Take a Saturn 5 from the Smithsonian, have a very large football player throw Assad inside and launch the thing, headed to the moon. He shouldn't be able to pilot the thing, but just in case make sure the return module is no where in site, oh and no communications either, so he can't ask his friendly neighborhood Chinese for a rescue.... This way, we wouldn't even have to bury him on Earth :d But should Assad decide to get outside his little capsule there (sorry, we don't want to really send a space suite with him), should he decide to take a strole outside, he'll just end up spacing himself :p
Actually, come to think of it, this is one person, I would rather not share the Earth with... Too bad, we don't have a means to send some like this, elsewhere... But we'd have to colanize space first, before we could create a prison colony, to get rid of these types by sending em there :o
the situation is very serious; we have moved several air national guard units over to the area; rumors out of Washington, well placed rumors, says that Obama has given the go ahead to use American forces, to protect the people of Syria; Russia has warned that any use of Nato forces, will be met with Russian forces; Obama needs a new war to bring America to rally to him; this situation could easily lead to a all out war in the middle east, write, call send e-mails to Congress, stand down, we do not have a horse in this race.
What? Kill a few thousand of the little people and Hilliary wants to kiss his ass ! No way. This POS deserves to swing from the end of a rope like Hussien and have his body fed to pigs. Even the thought of this filth evading justice is repulsive.
i am not sure why we are so involve in remove him from power. we have yet to fix the economy, people are still losing their jobs. we take foreign affairs too personal, we will not have total control of this world as we plan, even with the backing of an island power like the british. we have the 15-nations gang that decide for the rest of the world. look how much money we provided every here to egypt, 1 billion in military aid, 600 million in emergence funds and more, and what do we have there. we helped remove its leader for 30 years while supporting him. israel on the other hands have nuclear weapon no country in the west even bother to bring to an end because it favors our mission for the middle east. when this whole thing falls so will these powerful countries. the french, germany, great britain, spain, ussr, greece, they all lose their powers. collective powers like the us, great britain, france will suffer similar fate if they continue in that path. removing foreign leaders from power just because we don't like them or their ideology as to stop, fueling conflict by arming rebels and backing thugs and murders to attack their country's goverment does not make us look good at all. I hope we stop our globalization of the world by trying to create one world goverment to govern every country. many people has lost their culture and who their are because of this globalization crap. we need to let people around the world to decide their fate, we don't need to set up puppet government every just have peace because we will never have peace as long as we are human, because we like to dominate the next man and every country wants to be as powerful as the next.
He's not gonna accept it. So we don't need to worry about it.
JohnBrowning, Yep, Assad better stay where he is, and you have the solution "Let's see how
Russia likes seeing their only warm water port in "Western" control" The Mediterranean is the
key. Now, more than ever, control of the Mediterranean means control of the world.
Well, John Browning, you are a cool hand ------as muttered Nastasya to Raskolnikov in
Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment
An iPad and 52 inch plasma - he'd be on the plane tomorrow. Maybe a few toys for the lady; the face looks a bit stiff.
This is not a good idea---let him stay where he is and reap what he sowed!
What i find very intrersting is that the West occupies and terrorizes countries as well! Bush (I voted for him, but now realize there were some crimes committed) is a war criminal as well as Cheney, but becasue these bullies are the superpower, we can get away with it? There is a civil war going on in America, yet we dont talk about it....However in Syria, we play like we care...merely propganda! We dont have any authority to tell a leader in another country what to do...and i know they mentioned that, but you know how the US works,...they'll go in and murder/assasinate him...or simply go start another war!
America simply want to place our own govt in place so we can steal their natural resources...its been in plan for years! Iraq, Iran, Syria.... If you look at these places on the map, we are occupying places with oil!!! That is all!
Hello folks, here we start the killing in Syria, provide the rebels (mercenaries) arm them to overthrow the current sovereign leader and in our magnanimity allow him a refuge. Is there no end to our graciousness, class and style? Boy do we have style. In our short history we have bombed over 65 countries. We have been a country for 236 years and have been at war for 215 years.
Why do you think all those people are dying in Syria? It’s because we want this strategic piece of land so that we can continue our “war on terror” and take over the resources of western Asia.
Syria is not Libya. Waging an all-out war against Syria is a further step towards WWIII. People who support a UN or NATO intervention in Syria are by extension in favor of World War III.
The ultimate goal is Iran and Syria is just a stumbling block. Ultimately Russia and China will not allow this.
We are broke, our allies are broke but yet we can somehow come up with the taxpayer funding to invade another country? Now why is that? Middle class and the poor get the bill for the war and the rich get richer for funding and supplying all the materials used in war. Not only do they (Halliburton, Bechtel, GE, Northrop Grumman, etc.) benefit from the armaments but from the rebuilding of the cities and buildings they bomb. It’s a “win win” situation for the purveyors of war and everybody else loses and yet you have the sheeple buying into the propaganda they use to incite support for war.
In the past year, Syria has seen a massive infusion of arms and terrorists from outside its borders. At the same time, the U.S. has attempted to manipulate world public opinion and exploit the chaos it unleashed in Syria.
The U.S., NATO, Saudi Arabia, and Israel continue to stir up trouble in Syria to get a larger war going in the region. The U.S. and their allies have openly admitted to funding the rebels. They are not only supplying armaments they are supplying U.S. paid mercenaries.
Reports of another “false flag” are surfacing that opposition rebels are planning to use chemical weapons and then blame the atrocity on Assad’s regime. Rebels attempted to stage a similar ‘false flag’ recently when British Channel 4 reporter Alex Thomson was purposefully led by rebels into a trap whereby it was hoped he would be killed by government troops and his death used as a propaganda stunt.
Washington’s goal is to build up an international consensus to carry out a larger military operation against the Assad government under the cover of a “humanitarian intervention.” So far, that consensus has been lacking because the case for a military solution is based on total lies and U.S.-Israeli war propaganda, much of which has been repudiated by evidence gathered by independent journalists and eye witnesses on the ground in Syria.
According to Veterans Today:
“There is no question this is a Washington-orchestrated war. It is a low-level war to the extent that NATO has not gotten directly involved. But it is exactly what happened in Libya last year. An insurgency began; Washington orchestrated it; insurgents were recruited; they were funded; they were armed; they were US special forces, British special forces, CIA, MI6, Qatari special forces. They are in Syria now; they are directing these massacres, these killings. They are funding, they are training; they are picking targets; they are leading these dead squad games to places like Houla [and] Takiba. They are picking up who to slaughter. They go after pro-Assad loyalists.
You always have to ask, when terrible incidents occur, whether it is car bombings, whether it is massacres of civilians, cui bono, who benefits? Assad gets nothing from this. Only the opposition gains. Assad is the victim. The victim is being blamed for the perpetrator’s crimes. But again make no mistake. The nexus of this struggle emanates from Washington, doesn’t matter whether it is Obama, [former US President] George Bush or anybody else. Syria, and other regional countries, have been targeted for regime change for years, at least a decade. It was only the question when each one would come up. Syria’s turn came up and violence has been raging since early last year.”
Folks this has been pre-planned for a while, Syria has been on the list for a long time and now their time has come up. Do you really want another unnecessary war? Do you want your children fighting for another corporate war? I keep adding General Clark’s admonition of America’s plan to take over the Middle East because it is playing itself out right in front of the world! This isn’t a necessary war!
General Wesley Clark: "America will take out 7 countries in 5 years"
According to Former NATO supreme allied commander, former presidential candidate and 4 star US General Wesley Clark that they had received a memo that America is going to take out 7 countries in the Middle East starting with Iraq, Libya, Syria Lebanon Sudan, Somalia, and finally Iran. It is amazing that even if it is taking longer than originally planned, how these things that were planned years ago are being achieved in front of our eyes.
Folks, haven’t we spread enough blood shed and death around the world? This isn’t a necessary war!
watch on You Tube... Arab Spring, Arab Winter......
looks at the rising tension of the arab nations in the middle east and how it relates to Bible Prophecy.
According to New York Times . a
secretoperation is going on, from agents of CIA to send weapons to Syrian rebels,said an official, thissecretoperative is done with thesecrethelp of the Government ot Turkey and our secrets allies from Emirate Arabs. This Secret Operation undercover will sent weapons also with thesecrethelpof the Islamic Brotherhood. The name of the informant is kept in secret to protect the life of the informant.denver bill 2"Thieu can live as cheaply as Juan."
Denver that is the best line I have ever read on the Vine - LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
The Immunity plan for Assad by the US and the UK is absolutely NUTS.
He should be hung if found. What do the tortured, slaughtered people of Syria think. Do they not have a voice as to where Assad should go, or murdered?
Would the United States or Great Britain give Immunity from Prosecution to HITLER?
Syrians will rise up, and more Chaos begins---against the 2nd Holocaust. He is a Dictator who should be tried in a War Crime Tribunal, just like the Nazi's.
Amen. Same should be done to George Bush too, right?
Have you seen his wife? Package deal bro. Get him here. Kill him quietly. Wife is now single.
Let Shiites and Sunnis kill each other!
Hillarys, McCains, Liebermann's can't take sides like in Iraq for long and decide the winner!
The US, British and many EU nations are economically crippled.
Their leaders can't divert too much attention from problems at home by pointing out Syria, Iran and so on!
Just keep miles away from these mad Islamic religious Nazis on a killing spree among themselves!
A negotiated outcome seems like the best possibility for all concerned.
Thank you for your input, Neville Chamberlain. We'll get back to you...
And to you for yours, Mr. Bush. There's nothing like a losing battle to brighten up one's day.
hang Assad by his wabbles till they pop off than shoot the scum.
“Americans hunger for equality. This has always been the case.”
Democracy has gathered around the flame of equality, to warm itself against the bitter night of injustice. As ravenous dogs, they have consumed freedoms comforts, and left these young ones to grow cold, and hungry.
AMERICAN YOUTH RECOVERY PROGRAM(AYRP)
On the front lines in work.
On the front lines in war. An American tradition since 1776.
As minors by law children do not have autonomy or the right to make decisi...ons on their own for themselves in any known jurisdiction of the world. Instead their adult masters, including parents, social workers, teachers, youth workers and others, are vested with that authority, depending on the circumstances. Some believe that this state of affairs gives children insufficient control over their own lives and causes them to be vulnerable. Louis Althusser has gone so far as describe this legal machinery, as it applies to children, as "repressive state apparatuses". Researchers have identified children as needing to be recognized as participants in society whose rights and responsibilities need to be recognized at all ages.[ Structures such as government policy have been held by some commentators to mask the ways adults abuse and exploit children. On this view, children are to be regarded as a minority group towards whom society needs to reconsider the way it behaves.
Benjamin Franklin was one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. Although his schooling ended when he was ten, Franklin was a leading polymath, author, printer, political theorist, politician, postmaster, scientist, musician, inventor, satirist, civic activist, statesman, and diplomat. As a scientist, he was a major figure in the American Enlightenment and the history of physics for his discoveries and theories regarding electricity. He invented the lightning rod, bifocals, the Franklin stove, a carriage odometer, and the glass 'harmonica'. He formed both the first public lending library in America and the first fire department in Pennsylvania.
Exploitation VS Wage Labor
EDUCATION
In 2010, American students rank 17th in education.
More than $500 billion is spent each year on primary and secondary education. Transporting students to and from school is a major concern for most school districts. School buses provide the largest mass transit program in the country; 8.8 billion trips per year. Non-school transit buses give 5.2 billion trips annually. School start times are computed with busing in mind. There are often three start times; for elementary, for middle/junior high, and for high school.
CHILD CUSTODY
Professor Ted Melhuish in his research of December 7, 2006 presents the case for additional government intervention in terms of "Rates of Return to Human Capital investment. The study concludes that every dollar invested in Child Protective Services produces a return of $7.16. The budget for Texas Department of Family Protection Services (DFPS) is 1.5 Billion alone.
On Nov.17, 2007, Senator (GA.) Nancy Schaefer stated in her report " I believe Child Protective Services nationwide has become corrupt and that the entire system is broken almost beyond repair. I am convinced parents and families should be warned of the dangers. The Department of Child Protective Services, known as the Department of Family and Children Service (DFCS) in Georgia and other titles in other states, has become a “protected empire” built on taking children and separating families for profit, built on tax dollars.
U.S. jobs are being outsourced, overseas at a 10:1 ratio. That’s our future, and yours. We have shared the strife, now isn't it time we shared in equal rights?
WAGE LABOR
Somewhere in history, someone put in the minds of Americans that a youth working is exploitation. When in fact a working youth is self-sufficient, guarded from exploitation. When the African American man was unable to earn a wage, was he not just as susceptible to exploitation as a child? When a woman was not allowed to vote in America, were not her rights also exploited? Every minor receiving equal rights, is eligible for employment, and capable of taxation. An organized force of child laborers, directly engages the outsourcing of jobs overseas, and will harnesses the cost effectiveness, of its domestic location. Giving a minor at the age of 10 to choose their own residence cuts (DFPS) budget in half, as well as a significant amount of savings in the education budget. The mass consumption of goods by children, with new earned capital, will create a environment that creates, and sustains production, and job growth. It produces positive results in prevention, and retrieval, of outsourced jobs, utilizing its advantage of domestic transportation costs. Growing personnel capable of running Americas future infrastructure in Industry.
In 1916, the NCLC and the National Consumers League successfully pressured the US Congress to pass the Keating-Owen Act, the first federal child labor law. However, the US Supreme Court struck down the law two years later in Hammer v. Dagenhart (1918), declaring that the law violated a child's right to contract his or her own labor.
@Derek, what's this got to do with Assad?
Must you continually post this manifesto for every non-associated story? Go read a Dickens novel and see the future of child labor according to your precepts. If I may add a quote of my own: "Communism is man's exploitation of man. Capitalism is just the opposite."
Derek, You're dreaming again. Go back to sleep or keep on track.
When Assad is out there will be a lot of killing of Jews, Alawites and Christians. Who will replace Assad? So much for "Arab Spring". Tough situation.
If atrocities and barbarism on girls, children and women and killings are the criteria, then the most despotic, autocratic and bigoted Sunni Saudi ruler with his 5000 princes and princesses, Kuwaiti, UAE and other Arab League Sunni rulers and their rich sheiks are the biggest culprits in the history.
Through the Muslim immoral trafficking gangs, these barbarians have assembled all varieties of poor and helpless girls and women from all over the world in their harems and brothels.
If the US, Britain and others support such Sunni barbarians and beasts who treat girls and women as cheap sex slaves, then one can only conclude that Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists determine what to see, how to lecture and where and when to act.
Rest like “human rights”, “killing of children and women”, “militants”, “terrorists”, “WMDs”, “chemical weapons” and so on are a pure hoax.
Similar hoaxes were played each time before Iraqi wars on directions of Saudi, oil companies and their lobbyists.
Now none of them are looking into Iraq, where at a million have been killed and devastated.
Twice are too much to tolerate.
Agree. You will only replace a bad situation with a worse one. Syrians are animals to begin with.
wow
we are natorious for being idiots
lets let another murderer go with a slap of the hands
and let him wonder around with maybe??
children i heard he treats them well
as shields
get your head out of you ass west
no room for this idiot here
only the earth cares to recieve such an idiot
take him down with his what ever it is oh ya
wife
apperantly shes as evil as him
stand by your side satan
Keith, so what is YOUR solution? Let the two factions keep fighting while the most vulnerable pay the price? (and both sides treat kids as shields.) Nope, I would negotiate some kind of deal where he GETS to leave, IF and only if, he convinces everyone in his family to go to. I would let him take a 'small amount of money' (say 5 million for each male adult family 'leader') so that no country has to support them, and to make it more likely that they will be willing. And then I'd pay for their plastic surgeon to have their appearance altered.
Kicker is, I doubt if any country would take him. (Chavez maybe?) And if he leaves, and does not take his family, there will be little change.
And sadder still is that even if he is SLAUGHTERED, chances are things will not be better in Syria.
Tribal militarism is the norm in that area, and I don't believe there IS a word for 'compromise' in Arabic.
Let this run it's course. We don't have a dog in this fight (we haven't had a dog in a lot of these fights actually) and certainly don't need to harbor this guy in the US. The Syrian people need to fix this themselves.
Do people not get it yet this system is designed to take care of their own its a different set of rules
Offer a vacation for his whole family...then blow up the plane...when you want to get rid of rats or cockroaches you have to kill them all or they just bred back...
I don't believe these countries are going to let this guy go scot free after all the killings he did. What is wrong with you stupid Politicians? Saddam was killed, wasn't he? So why not this murderer? America is getting dumber and dumber.
Not only Saddam lots of innocent people and children got killed and someone got away with that too all the thing that they hated Hitler for they are heading in the same direction
@arizonaron69, Saddam was tried, found guilty, and hung by the Iraqi People. Not Murdered. Although, I believe he was found hiding in a spider hole by US Forces that turned him in.
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I firmly believe that the Syrian people are responsible for resolving their own situation. However, if the 'simplest' solution is to get Assad out, then yes, give him asylum in the West. Think about it, if we get involved, it will cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money to 'force him out along with thousands more lost lives'. Its not the right solution, but it could be the 'best'.
You should say 'America people is getting dumber and dumber'
As long as there have been no domestic voices heard...divide and rob would be successful.
Greywater, your name is appropriate, wash water without solid substance.
Sadam kills his people and he is evil. Assad kills his people and he gets amnesty? must be the difference in spelling, there is an m missing. Hey Assad, i love what you've done with the place, :( Take note, When you let right wingers like Assad take over, that's what you get. Dead children. Globalization might not be so bad if all the greedy players would join forces in situations like this and save the people. but sadly they only join forces to control the resources and collect the money.
I could be wrong, (and it's really not worth going and looking) but I BELIEVE that the 'right winger' ASSAD did not 'take over'. Pretty sure he 'inherited'.
And the 'revolutionists are ALSO pretty 'right wing', they just are 'right wing' for THEIR side.
@george pauljohn. Assad is a leader of Syrian branch of a Baath party which is a socialist party at its core. In fact his father, from whome he inherited power, ran the contry along Soviet economic and social lines. Guess what that makes Assad. If you said a left winger than you are 100% correct. But realy, why would any one expect you to actually know what you talking about?!
george, keeping all the people poor and depending on the Govt. is leftest not rightwing
Wash D.C. has an international policeman foreign policy. We refuse to mind our own damm business. Look at the results, a 10 year war in Iraq and an ongoing 11 year war in Afganistan with no end in sight. These wars are being waged on borrowed money and taking america srtaight to bankruptcy. Our national debt is now 16.2 trillion dollars and the annual interest is 480 billion dollars. Israel has constistantly refused UN inspection for nuclear weapons and continues to build settlements under their zionist prime minister. Israel has dominated our foreign policy since the 1980's under Jimmy Carter and every president since. Iran is Israel's problem. We had our revoltionary war and Syria is having theirs. In the first 3 weekends in July, 18 people were killed and 110 wounded by gunfire in Chicago. In the USA there are 33,000 gangs with a total membership of 1,400,000. They are armed and they are criminal and out of control. This does not concern Wash D.C or Hilliary Clinton. P.S. Chicago has very strong gun control laws that have only succeeded in disarming the citizens. Where is Homeland Security in Chicago. I guess they are too busy making sure illegal aliens are not deported. Wash D.C. is usless and out of control.
What. No, no no no. After the mess we made of Iraq just to get rid of one man TEN YEARS after we started paying enough attention to figure out he was a mass murderer, we do not need to let another one of these tinpot Mideast tyrants walk. If we're going to play World Police then at least let's try to do a passably effective job of it. Send in a small team of elites, remove this butt's head, stick it on a pike, cover it with one Post-It note on for every innocent person he killed so that the smell won't bother anyone, and let him rot while they think about how to maybe put someone who ISN'T evil in charge this time, just for the sake of variety.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/247265.html
Natanyahoo and all Israhelli PMs as well as retiring Obama must seek immunity,not Bashar Al-Asad who has given life to Syria and its population!!...What a hell of LIES of The West!¬!¬!¬!¬!....lolllllz
1000s of proofs available. Have you not been satisfied of 9/11 event carried out by the Zionist?? Proper study laid by Pentagon to remove WTC and save the ass of drowning Zionist capabilities!! Yet turn blind eye on SYRIA??...Well The Most Powerful RUSSIA and CHINA are at Assad's side. Believe me, in this Syria events of masterminding CIA and MOSSAD will erase - wipe out - the Zionist Entity from the world's chapter. Go ON - Wage War, we all are waiting your SuperMan task!!
Lay off that afghani hash...and you do realize you just posted a news article from the Iranian news agency?? Thats heavily censored and the GOVERNMENT says what to post or the anchors are executed...please go back to watching your lies LOL.
You are a joke, I guess just some stupid collage student looking for attention.
Couldn't agree more.
Keith posts, "we are natorious for being idiots." He must be speaking solely of himself.
haskes, HA HA HA HA good one try the Arab comedy channel I'm sure you'll do well
Safe haven for a mass murderer? Would we have made that deal with Hitler?
offer him anything...put him on a plane...blow it out of the sky......
why dont you put yourself and your zionist killers into a plane when comes to beg for american taxpayers money transfer and blowwww!....lollz As Hitler MUST be saluted as he said that people are offended by my killing of zionists but leaving back a few people, and one day you will remember me as I did the right thing, but will be too late!!! Everyday, the whole world will be terrorised by them and mass murders will take place all over the world. Now, Salute HITLER, The Great!!
Hasake, trolling hour begins at 11:00 est.
Go, quickly, your goat is running off
haskes, please you're killing me HA HA HA push any handicapped people off of a ship lately
Amunity? He killed more people than Osama(Bush did on 9-11).
Obama has desroyed more lives than he did and he is still occupying our Oval Office
BWHA - You should learn to freaking spell before you attempt posting moronic statements.
His wife can stay at my place!
There is but one just solution to this despot and his wife. That is a hollow-point to each of their heads. Immunity is as laughable as the organization trying to make it happen.
NO WAY, This guy is no better than "Hitler or Sadom" He needs to fry! And God forgive if he's aloud to leave he'll do as the others and steal millions from he people. Just ask the Widows and fatherless children he'll leave behind! "Oh no matter He's been killing the wowan and children as well. The only passage he needs is a full safety and security Guard force to protect him all the way to the Hage! Oh made up of hand picked US Navy Seals and British OAS. Just so he won't get hurt or lost on the way!
We could be winners if we swapped Presidents
I wish you to touch hole buddies would get a direct connection with one another than you could do your childish rants to one another all day long. Trolls, hand me downs, don't even know your A** from a hole in the ground. If you were my Crumb grabbing Rug Rats I would show you the book of Child Psycalogy really works, when applied properly. You've been nowhere and have done nothing. In the words of your beloved Romney,"Tha's appolling, pathetic." Yeh, you sure do live up to your potential.
Spell check please!
I think I need a secret decoder ring to decipher 6dogs posting......I know he's trying to say something........but what?
Off topic, sorry.
Hey MSNBC, where's your story about Obama's Executive Privledge for Holder yesterday? Really?
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/war-is-a-racket-1/when-will-we-attack-syria.html
See? There are no comments made against the link you posted. Before they attacked you for the PressTV link?
So the brasschecktv link simply invisible to most people commenting here...guess why.
Thank You HASKES- so very true what RON PAUL said ,Thanks again for the link.
Hey Dave....This is a PMSnbc site, you don't really think they'd put anything that could cast a negative light on their emporer do you...listen to Morning Joe, those peope are so in love with "the skunk" that when he stops their noses go up his a$$....
Note: Obamas a skunk because hes half white, half black, and his policies STINK!
just like faux is the right wingnuts station of choice.
http://www.abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=323486
@haskes, so. George Washington in the Revolutionary War hired French soiliders as personal body guards because they were highly diciplened soldiers and their Sgt. became the first Drill Sargeant for the Army. He is credited with being the Grandfather of all Drill Sargeants today. Americans went to France and became soldiers and pilots long before the US went to WWI. Col Boyington formed the famed Flying Tigers to fight the Japanese over China before Pearl Harbor. All these people were paid to do what they did. We can go back to other countries all through out the ages and see this happening. People volunteering their swords for money. What you and this Turk are saying, you never heard of this happening before?
Oops the US of A do it again!
What a humanitarian state.
Sorry-someone crossed the greywater with the septic feed again.
He needs to be drawn and quartered, and his wife needs to be ass raped with a sandpaper covered baseball bat.
Amen to this comment about his wife. Why do people think they are so high and mighty and BETTER than anyone. After watching that baby boy die a slow death because of these people, I would love to see them mauled slowly by a gang of wild boars, I would have not one ounce of sympthy. Pieces of @!$%# is what they are. And what makes you think your life on this earth is so valuable and long ............???? I can not wait til they actually face the Lord above.................what will the answer be from them as to why they caused that baby boy to suffer so??????????????????
Very obvious you need a psychiatric doctor.
I'm not surprised.Most likely Hillary and her libs will offer him the same or better just like in the Chinese activist case. Money to start a new rich life, speaking engagements at prestigious universities, and a cushy life. Yes the liberal way of kissing ass. You can bet that our flower child power mongers will have something to do with this clown getting everything his satanic heart wants.
P.S a bullet in his head would be more productive.
Promise the Hellbound MUDERER Ass-Head anything. When agrees and surrenders control of Syria, give him and his accomplice wife to the first group of Rebels you see. End of Story.
He's a scumbag, and I hope someone kills him brutally!