This guy is revealed for what he is, again. He is not interested in some sort of legal, vetted, truth. What he is, is an enemy, and he allies himself with other enemies. Not out of some just cause. But because he is an angry, spiteful, partially delusional spoilt brat with a computer. So, you can see that when push comes to shove, he does exactly what any coward would do, instead of actually facing the music. Of course, all his bold talk is pure BS.

Derek, you are 100% wrong. He knows the playing field is tilted. You have been brainwashed to believe and support a murderous Gov't which is the biggest threat to life on earth. He has the guts, and hopefully some luck to speak truth to power. Giving up one's freedom and possibly life so that future generations may live in peace with one another is a noble cause.

Ask yourself why all of the Gov't actions are being declared "top secret" in the name of National security?Ask yourself why we need drones spying on us in the U.S?

Pretty soon there won't be any forums to share your opinion on the "news" because all news will be censored in the name of "National security".

Good luck with your bold talk about people who are actually willing to risk something to get the truth out.

As I have said before. Assange is a criminal, a liar, and now a craven coward trying everything he can to avoid justice. As Ecuador is aligned with Hugo Chavez and Venezuela, is this any surprise? I'm surprised Hugo himself did not openly jump on the band wagon!

Ed-NavDoc: Who are the criminals, liars, and cowards? Our whole Gov't now does whatever they please in the name of National security. False-flag events to further erode our constitutional rights.
It's funny how folks always like everything black and white so it is easy for them to "understand, accept, and then speak about it".
Why is it OK for one faction (the U.S. gov't) to kill innocents in countries that don't accept western corporations and banks on their soil, yet when someone catches the U.S. with their pants down, they are criminals, liars, and cowards?
Your view on the world, and how we should interact with our fellow humans seems to stop at the end of your nose.

I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. Have a good day.

I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. Have a good day.

Sorry for the duplication. Don't know how that happened.

Ed- We are entitled to our opinion except where the law is concerned. The U.S. gov't has clearly violated the constitution and international law.

As I said, people like everything black and white to feel better. The role our gov't plays in creating poverty, wars, and corporate abuses of national sovereignty is criminal.

@ Stone Mason . . . . You have got to be kidding.

What you stated has to be the worst excuse ever made for anyone ever accused of anything " Ever ". The man is a coward. If he has done nothing wrong like he says, he should face the charges and take his chances. What other place on earth would he have a better chance to draw attention to the issues then in a USA court room. Yet, this guy hides in a castle, and now an embassy.

Giving up one's freedom and possibly life so that future generations may live in peace with one another is a noble cause.

This is so laughable ! The only thing "Future generations" need to worry about are more self aggrandizing people like this in the world. I am sorry, but the fate of the world does not rest in this guy hands. . . . . . Thank God !

As far as this idiot statement . .

"actually willing to risk something to get the truth out."

What risk has this guy taken for anyone other then himself ? Everything thing this guy says and does is about one thing, Him.

Roger you are a fool. Keep believing all the propaganda. You are brainwashed.

The risk he took was his life being threatened to expose the truth about The U.S. gov't and military being murderers and consistently violating the constitution.

You are another example of people here wanting everything black and white so you can understand it and flap your jaw so you can feel good about your insignificant existence.

At some point, you need to ask yourself how many innocent people have to die so the U.S. gov't can continually take you constitutional rights away from you and lie to you the whole time. Meanwhile you sit at your keyboard and run your mouth about how great you are and what an idiot others are who clearly demonstrate that they are more informed than you. Good luck with your ignorant life. You deserve it.

Blind faith in your Gov't will get you killed - Bruce Springsteen

Stone Mason, are you an actual Mason? Just curious, no judgement.

Yes I am.

Firsts, Please quote where I said how great I am .. learn to read, perhaps learn to spell too. You are the one running your mouth, not me. Me brainwashed, hardly. You are the same type of idiot the story is about.

I did not ask that coward to risk anything for me. No one asked him to police the world. Julian Assange has no one to blame for his situation other then himself. This would all be a bit more news worthy if he was a USA citizen, but he is not. Why should I even care what he says or does. Talk about sitting at a computer, what does your hero do ? He hacks and cracks and then releases classified documents and makes value judgments from a desk in some unknown place, nice guy right ? Puts lives at risk by doing so, again... nice guy right ? When this guy pays taxes and has voting rights, then perhaps he can help decide for the rest of us what policy should be. But until then, he is no one to decide for me anything. He has no rights on my future or that of my kids and grandkids. To my knowledge he has never held an elected office and is generally known to be a bumbling fool as an ex-hacker, a lamer one hacker called him. In my mind you are worse then he is. The defender of the fool is more foolish. If you do not like our government , vote to change it. Having Julian Assange trying to do it for you makes you a coward too. Perhaps you have voted and it changed nothing . . . well guess what, that's how the system works... love it or leave it. There is nothing you or anyone can say that will change the fact the guy is a coward, get over it. And by the way, the only thing you demonstrate was not how informed you are sir, but how missed informed and jaded you are. Have a nice day :)

Roger, ever notice how frequently when someone is on the weak side of an argument or discussion, as with Stone Mason, the first thing they do is throw insults out when trying to get their point across

Roger, I've actually testified in front of the general assembly of my home state for labeling GMO's. I'm a farmer, stone mason, and grow my own food. I've traveled all over the world, and worked in other countries. I've constructed over thirty houses in my life, and am a former professional athlete. I've coached athletes who have won medals at the Olympics.

You sit and judge others without the facts. That's what made me say you think you are great. Your actions spoke it, not specifically the organization of your words.

"Perhaps learn to spell"? Grasping at straws now?

What is there really to say to someone who doesn't understand why he released the information that was actually given to him by someone in the U.S. military? Is it possible these people knowingly put themselves at risk so people could be aware of them and make their own conclusions?

Did George Washington ask for your opinion to fight the British so the founders could write the constitution and the bill of rights? How foolish you sound when you say I didn't ask him to do anything for me. with your logic, if you didn't ask for the constitution, you don't want it.

Most of the world doesn't want the U.S. to police the world. They do it to cover for the corporations forcing the poorer countries to give up ownership of their natural resources. Starting wars in countries like Syria, bombing civilians in the name of "freedom", etc etc.

Defender of the fool? You are the fool Roger. The lack of any facts in your argument makes it pretty obvious. I never said or implied Assagne was doing anything "for me", I just expressed my appreciation for ANYONE willing to stand up to Ultra-powerful organizations.

As for me being a coward, that's humorous. If you met me, the last thing you would call me is coward.

I noticed you haven't addressed the fact you don't know the international laws applying to this case yet you already have made your judgement. Please do. I can't wait to see how you squirm out of this one.

Actually Ed, I was using the same terminology as Roger when he judged Julian, without knowing the facts or the person. If you actually were interested in the conversation, you would respond to the facts I've provided and the lack of on your parts.

Sorry to disagree with you again Stone Mason, but I read the above statements very carefully and nowhere did I find that Roger called you a coward personally. He was referring solely to Assange. You, however insulted him and resorted to name calling.

As for being interested in the conversation, I will respond to facts when presented with such. So far you have provided only insults, conjecture, and innuendos. I have attempted to be polite with you thus far, however you seem to be bent on straddling or outright crossing the line on Newsvine COH violations regarding personal attacks. You might want to rethink your position on that.

Actually I have not come close. If you are a mod, whaaaa. I never said he called me a coward. He called Julian a coward. I stated that clearly. So how you missed that, i can only guess.

If you can't decipher what facts I've stated I would have to say you may want to check if you have a pulse.

The constitution has clearly been violated. It is illegal to start wars without congressional approval. That is a fact. I clearly stated several times the constitution has been violated. You have not responded. So, you are wrong. Avoiding facts is not a conversation. It is an exercise in burying your head in the sand.

I called him foolish. And yes he did call me a coward. Look harder. Clown.

Thank you for continuing to prove my point!

He's not a US citizen and he disclosed information given to him by a US military personal. So take his life? There are terrorist and news organizations world wide that disclose any information they can get their hands on regardless of what's classified. This guy coulda gone to whoever he wanted to get the information out there. Take Manning's head off for treason if that's what your all wanting is blood, but bring Assange here to trial and killing is wrong.

Ed-NavDoc: "I will respond with facts when presented with such"

Stone Mason: "It is illegal to start wars without congressional approval. That is a fact"

Ed-NavDoc: "Thank you for continuing to prove my point.

Ed-NavDoc, I am concerned for the state of your mental well-being in ways that I cannot describe.

Mr. Miller, please save your unwanted and unwarranted concern for someone who needs it. I don't. Then try carefully rereading the above posts.

I love stupidity, and here in America we sell it by the butt load. Would Sweden extradite him to the US? YES. Is having sex with 2 different women really a crime? NO. Just bogus charges so the US can get their hands on him, and show the world how we really feel about "Whistleblowers", inside the fine world of backstabbing Consular's in our Embassies around the world.

I love how you "Proud" Americans are shocked that he is a traitor for showing me (A former vet) that indeed our country lies to its people by telling me that a journalist was killed by terrorists, when the video that came out showed me that the terrorist that killed him, was in fact an Apache pilot, flying for (Wait for it) America. I am further shocked that you continue to fall for the B/S lie that we as a nation are not a bunch of hypocritical liars, which by the way, WE ARE! Free Assange, free Bradley Manning and let the truth be free. The only way we can free ourselves from the stupidity is by finding the truth, and it sure isn't going to come out of any politicians mouth.

QUOTE: "WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on Friday said he was ready for a life in Ecuador and said the country had been "quite supportive" of his bid for asylum"

One has to wonder what embarrassing information could be 'leaked' by Assange concerning Ecuadorian officials if they do not cooperate with him. He seems to know a great deal about them.

He made a deal with them never to post their dirty laundry. He picks and chooses his targets therefore revealing his bias.

Just Let him stay there forever. Ecuador straddles the equator. He will be burned over there.

Very well said Carl.

Ha! When we become the size of Belgium...perhaps when we dont have the baddass military? Perhaps when we stop paying the majority of the UN Peacekeeping budget...perhaps when we stop donating and providing aid, billions of taxpayers money, to other countries in need.

ALL GOVERNMENTS are corrupt...some more so than others. The US is not that bad...some issues, but I HAVE been around the world...several countries, modern and third world...be careful for what you ask for and let us do what we need for "national security." Not brainwashed...just realist. Some people need to get outside of their lil' bunker, city, state before commenting on this.

As for as ASSange goes...goodbye. Scared...Ecuador cant protect you either. Once you have a warrant on your head (which will come next if this rendevous doesnt work out)...we will get you no matter where. Your best bet IS to be sent to the US, face a court and most likely will be acquitted...and for what you have done deserves the harshest penalty. Truth and national security have to draw a line and cannot overlap. The two cannot coexist...things are done or are needed to be done to protect our children...apparently, some idiots still cannot grasp that concept.

Who cares what the US government does in relation to Afghan, etc. Haiti? who cares. What I care about is to stop sending these 3rd world countries billions of dollars when we should take care of our own people (not politicians) first.

Assange had his motives...truth (perhaps)...but he was getting paid too. Look deeper and you'll find out by who....

Peace!

First of all, it's Sweden, not Switzerland. Why won't England extradite him to the U.S.? Because England won't ever extradite someone if the country they are charged in has the death penalty and the charge may warrant the death penalty. Since the U.S. has already subpoenaed several people related to the case, but has been secretive about the charges, not even admitting they have charged him, you are actually witnessing real justice here.

As far as releasing information (irregardless is not a word by the way, although it is often used as one) that may hurt people, The U.S. gov't has no problem bombing innocent civilians in the name of "freedom", but when someone calls them on it they are criminals. What happened to "of the people, by the people, for the people?" Now it's the gov't, by the gov't, for the corporations".

How long until something like this(secret charges or no trial) happens to someone you know? If you pay attention to news outlets actually trying to report the news, you will see it's happening all over the U.S. to everyday people.

Finally, he has not been charged with a crime in SWEDEN, he is wanted just for questioning because they know they will never get a conviction. Two women came forward only after they were approached by U.S. aligned agents. No physical evidence. No witnesses.

Funny how easy it is to call someone a criminal when you know very little about the topic.

If this guy has not committed a crime, why does he act like he has. This guy is a complete and total coward. I hope we get him here in the USA. This guy stinks like a dirty Stone Mason !

Roger you have once again shown how ignorant you are. International law states that he does not have to answer to the U.S. You have made it clear that you don't know that. So keep running your mouth and showing what a fool you are.

No kidding he does not have to answer the U.S. .... But he does have to answer to the country that is trying to get him. Why has this coward not done that if he has nothing to hide as he claims. Rather then face the music, he hides like a coward in an embassy. Perhaps you should go take him milk and cookies.

It's politically motivated. Thus asylum in Ecuador. You have ignored the fact that the Swedish legal system has ye to charge him with anything. They want to question him. Once he is in Sweden, he will be extradited to the U.S. to face a kangaroo court. Read information on an English language but Swedish origin news site. It will give you a better understanding of what is really happening. But it's so much easier to judge without the facts, isn't it Roger?

Sorry about the Sweden/Switzerland gaff. I just read the article and manged to do that.

Still, stand by the rest.

Despite a bunch of chest thumping and outrageous statements by some in the USA, I am not really sure what we can charge him with since he is not an American citizen and he was not the one who actually took the information in the first place. Pretty positive that we are not going to be able to come up with any charge that will lead to a death sentence.

I do not like a lot of things about the Patriot Act and other measures getting passed. I go a long with the thought that those who give up freedom to obtain security do not deserve the former and will not obtain the latter.

There a legitimate reasons for governments to keep secrets. And so there are legitimate reasons to prosecute people who knowing tell such secrets. Not everything is a conspiracy by some one to gain control of the world. I am not a big fan of diplomacy and face saving crap that goes on, I think a little more bluntness and truth speaking would be nice, but it is not always possible. (Ever face the question "Honey, does this dress make me look fat?") A lot of the stuff put out was that sort of thing, blunt honest opinions of diplomats for other diplomats, governments, situations, that they would never have said publicly. I do not see any real public good coming for its revelation other than entertainment, and can see were it undermines our foreign policy. Some of it was of a much more serious nature and while you can truthfully argue that that information was important to release, it conversely also points out why it was not released.

I am not going to argue any specific piece of information that was released should of been or should not have been released. The flow was too great for that. There in lies my problem with its release. Those who released could not of vetted the information made any realistic determination of whether or not the cost of release would out weight the benefit. They could of cared less if thousands ended up dead or any other disaster occurred. They seem to me to just want to be big important people and be damn the cost. With that conclusion, my opinion, I want them to be prosecuted to the full extent possible.

Of course my opinion of Assange is influenced by my utter contempt for the gentleman who gave him the information.

I appreciate your response. I wish more people had contempt for all the killing being performed in the name of "freedom".

Ed, thank you for a very well written and thought out statement. Yours makes about the most sense as anything posted so far. In my opinion, Assange is guilty of violating this country's National Security Act whether he is a citizen of this country or not. He and his cohorts, specifically one Bradley Manning knowingly released classified documents that could potentially, if not actually, put U.S. military personal and civilians as well into extreme danger. We do not know and probably will not ever know whether their actions caused the deaths of American personnel. I state here and now that I do not agree with all that the U.S. government does, but I firmly believe that we do not need to know everything. I spent 20 years in the honorable service of my country as a U.S. Navy Hospital Corpsman and I cannot abide with Manning'spotentially treasonous acts knowing he may have had something to do with deaths of my fellow brothers and sisters in arms. As somebody who has survived two wars, I can tell you that I hate seeing killing and death and never wish to see another one. I have difficulty accepting that Assange acted out of altruism or the need to expose truth for truths sake. I firmly believe Assange to be a narcissistic megalomaniac. Those of you posting here who wish to damn me for my views, you are most welcome to do so as this is a forum for exchange of views and opinions that all are entitled to. Just bear in mind that all people's views and opinions are shaped by their past experiences in life. I do not know your experiences and you do not know mine. To all, a good day.

He should be bring to Sweden to confront the sexual accusations. Then, if he's proved innocent, he can go to Ecuador or wharever he wants. If not...

I do believe in the Swedish courts. Particularly when the whole world will be looking at such a trial.

Assange is a whistle blower, not a thief. he was given the information, he didn't steal it. The New Your Times published it, why are they not on trial??. It was all the filthy truth of your ugly, filthy government. You Americans just hide behind your 'God bothering' ways and think that God will save the day.The rape accusations filed in Sweden are politically motivated, if you understand what that means!!.

If you have ever seen the first file that Assange was given, you will see the blatant murder of innocent Iraqi's, in the illegal invasion of Iraq.

You are a power, but not for much longer, if you ever manage to get yourselves out of your war debts, I hope you have some change to help the one in six Americans living in dire poverty without medical insurance

, you are a sick pack of losers and can't accept the truth. Sweden has a right wing Government, a puppet of the US of A, your government is scared of the fitly, murderous truth becoming knowledge of it's past, present and future atrocities, it doesn't know when to stop, it is a diseased state.

IN GOD YOU TRUST, you have no one else to.

Sweden justice has no sign (or whatsoever) of the Catholic inquisitors.

But can you say the same for the U. S. after Sweden ships him out?

I live in the USA and I am not American, I would NEVER become an American, I come here for 6 months per year to make money and then go back to my wonderful country. I do charity work for the indigenous Americans who have been treated so badly, also the black Americans.

read your history books patriotic Girl.

OH, so you earn your money in the US but hate us and for which we stand? How about...can you say, hipocrite? Please? Cmon? Cross the border? French Canadian? lmao.

Stephen, this is one Native American who will gladly tell you please go back to your "wonderful country" and stay there. We don't need your help and we certainly do not need condescending attitudes like yours! Oh, and please do not let the turnstyle at the airport hit you in the rear end on the way out!

Patriotic chick, why do you hate America?

Why do you hate America, socomofo?

What, watching tinfoil hat shows on the History Channel?