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In this picture released by the Iranian Fars News Agency, a surface-to-surface missile is launched by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards in an undisclosed location in Iran on Tuesday, July 3, 2012. Note: The Associated Press has no way of independently verifying the content, location or date of this image.
DUBAI - Iran said on Tuesday it had successfully tested medium-range missiles capable of hitting Israel as a response to threats of attack, the latest move in a war of nerves with the West.
Israel says it could attack Iran if diplomacy fails to secure a halt to its disputed nuclear energy program. The United States also has military force as a possible option but has repeatedly encouraged the Israelis to be patient while new economic sanctions are implemented against Iran.
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The Islamic Republic announced the "Great Prophet 7" missile exercise on Sunday after a European embargo against Iranian crude oil purchases took full effect following another fruitless round of big power talks with Tehran.
Iran's official English-language Press TV said the Shahab 3 missile with a range of 1,300 km (800 miles) - able to reach Israel - was tested along with the shorter-range Shahab 1 and 2.
"The main aim of this drill is to demonstrate the Iranian nation's political resolve to defend vital values and national interests," Revolutionary Guards Deputy Commander Hossein Salami was quoted by Press TV as saying.
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He said the tests were in response to Iran's enemies who talk of a "military option being on the table".
On Sunday, Iran threatened to wipe Israel "off the face of the earth" if the Jewish state attacked it.
Analysts have challenged some of Iran's military assertions, saying it often exaggerates its capabilities.
Senior researcher Pieter Wezeman of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute said Iran's missiles were still relatively inaccurate and of limited use in conventional warfare. With conventional warheads, "their only utility is as a tool of terror and no more than that", he said by telephone.
He added, however, that they could be suitable for carrying nuclear warheads, especially the larger ones.
The International Institute for Strategic Studies, said in a 2010 report that all Tehran's ballistic missiles were "inherently capable of a nuclear payload", if Iran was able to make a small enough bomb.
Iran denies Western accusations that it is seeking to develop nuclear weapons capability. The world's No. 5 oil exporter maintains that it is enriching uranium only to generate more energy for a rapidly growing population.
Oil markets on edge
Iran has previously threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, through which more than a third of the world's seaborne oil trade passes, in response to increasingly harsh sanctions by the United States and its allies intended to force it to curb its nuclear research program.
Fars said dozens of missiles involved in this week's exercises had been aimed at simulated air bases, and that Iranian-built unmanned drones would be tested on Wednesday.
Iran repeated its claim to be reverse-engineering the sophisticated U.S. RQ-170 drone that it says it brought down during a spying mission last year.
"In this drone there are hundreds of technologies used, each of which are valuable to us in terms of operations, information and technicalities," General Amir Hajizadeh was quoted by the ISNA news agency as saying.
Wezeman said Iran had a large standing armed force, but that its weapons were generally outdated. "And those weapons only get older and older and they don't have access to new technology because they are under a United Nations arms embargo."
In his first comments since the European Union oil ban took force, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said sanctions would benefit Iran by lessening its dependence on crude exports.
"We must see the sanctions as an opportunity ... which can forever take out of the enemy's hands the ability to use oil as a weapon for sanctions," Fars news agency quoted him as saying.
Negotiations over Iran's nuclear program continued in Istanbul on Tuesday with a meeting of technical experts from Iran and six world powers.
The discussions follow a round of political talks in Moscow last month at which the sides failed to bridge differences or agree on a further round of talks at that level.
The experts have no mandate to strike agreements but the six powers - the United States, China, Britain, Germany, France and Russia - hope that by clarifying technical aspects of Tehran's work they can open way for more negotiations in the future.
Diplomats in Istanbul said discussions were "detailed" and would most likely be followed by a meeting between a senior negotiator from the European Union and Iran's deputy negotiator Ali Bagheri. Such a meeting could, at a later date, be a prelude to talks on a political level, diplomats have said.
"We hope Iran will seize the opportunity ... to show a willingness to take concrete steps to urgently meet the concerns of the international community," EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said ahead of the meeting. Ashton and her team represent the six powers in dealings with Iran.
As a priority, the powers want Iran to stop enriching uranium to levels close to weapons-grade, ship out any stockpile, and close a secret facility where such work is done.
Iran denies its program has a military dimension and wants relief from economic sanctions before it makes any concessions.
Call to shut oil lanes
On Monday, Iranian parliamentarians proposed a bill calling for Iran to try to stop tankers taking crude through the Strait of Hormuz to countries that support the sanctions.
However, the Iranian parliament is relatively weak, analysts say, and the proposal has no chance of becoming law unless sanctioned by Iran's clerical supreme leader.
That is seen as unlikely in the near term given that Western powers have said they would tolerate no closure of the Strait while Iranian leaders, wedded to strategic pragmatism for the sake of survival, have said they seek no war with anyone.
"It's a gesture at this stage," said independent British-based Iran analyst Reza Esfandiari.
"They want to emphasize that Iran can make life difficult for Europe and America. I think this is more of an attempt to offset falling crude prices. Financial markets are very sensitive to such talk."
On Tuesday, the price of Brent crude, which has been on a downward trend for the last three months, broke $100 for the first time since early June.
"A lot depends on nuclear talks," said Esfandiari. "If there's no progress and the initiative is deadlocked, then these kind of actions will intensify."
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The vile,wicked,bloodthirsty Muslims in Iran are going to keep fooling around until Israel wipes them off the map
"The vile, wicked, bloodthirsty Jews in Germany are going to keep fooling around until Europe wipes them off the map".....oh wrong century but I do believe this was the Nazi's convincing arguement.
"Iraq has weapons of mass destruction"...oh wrong war this was Bush and Cheney's lines for making personal fortunes for their friends and families.
Same old lines only in another place and another time all for personal gain, resource, and land stealing! Resulting in murders of hundreds of thousands or millions at a time but who is counting when you are killing other religions or nationalities. We learned nothing from WWII nor from Iraq.
Indeed DEB,
We've learned nothing form WWII. That's when Nazi Germany was behaving much like Iran behaves now, but East and West were ignoring it, each one hoping that Nazis will atack the other and not them.
Now, some people are just as percistent in ignoring Iran, hoping that they are a threat only to Israel and no one else.
I see Israel as the aggressor, and behaving more like the SS than anyone. Why is it that you cannot ever speak of Jews without Hitler coming up? Don't you think that's a bit odd? They were not the only people who ever suffered in the world. I am so sick of the pity card. They use it to get their way. It is really sickening. USS Liberty.
The fact that you try to compare Irael to SS and bring up a long dead conspiracy theory suggets that you are on of those who simply enjoys mentioning Hitler because you miss him.
In reality, it is very easy to speack of jews without Hitler coming up. Just try it some time.
No......it comes up EVERY time. I didn't start it. Look at every comment section of any article that has open comments. I am observing. You are a bigot, and an anti-Semite.
Keep denying the USS Liberty, it's OK. We know the truth. Conspiracy theory? Your brain is washed good. Those men died. It does not matter that it was 1967. Soul-less vultures.
You are calling me "anti-semite" for defending Israel, right afeter you compared Israel to SS, for the sake of jew-bating. Funny.
you got that right. you kill one of them and they kill ten fold
Iran wants nuclear weapons...Isreal has them! Enough said! Iran talks loud and carries a little stick! Isreal has a big stick! Iran would react to an Isreal attack the same has Iraq did in the gulf war.....white flag. Here is a novel idea. Quit threatening Iran and "quick strike" all of their military missle sites. Then send a letter to the Supreme Ayatolla, asking him if he wants to run his mouth again?
Hey Deb-Z! let me clue you in! We did learn something from WWII! If you firebomb the cities and you don't worry about civilian casualties, your enemy's own people will turn on their own regimes. They will surrender! If you have any doubt of this, let me give you some examples! Fire bombing of Tokyo by Dolittle's raiders. The fire bombing of Dressden, Germany. The atomic bombing of both Nagasaki and Hiroshima! If these same tactics were employed today, very few if any of these countries like Iran would dare run their mouths at the US. They would understand that we would employ all means nessesary to bring about the destruction of our enemies, and would not risk the severity of our retaliation.
Why worry so much for what these mad mullahs and their people say?
In that case Israel would have been wiped out long time back!
Wouldn't it be funny if the first time that Iran tried to actually fire some of their Shihab-3 at Israel (or
American targets in the region) they would discover that a computer virus had inserted a rootkit on their guidance systems telling the missiles to go back to their point of origin?
If I was Iran, I wouldn't bet on any of their systems performing as planned during real conflict. Kind of like that missile base that went up in smoke first time they tried to test a new propulsion system (killing that IRGC Brig. General in the process).
Then the media could call that new virus "Return to sender", or "Up yours!"...
You know, like that Stuxnet virus, or Flame which was even able to 'leap' from a PC to cell phones and other devices with bluetooth. That would be so amusing!
Hey, Ahmadinejad! Having fun yet?
:)
And the Muslims are "the vile, wicked and bloodythirsty" ones? I know that you were only born a week ago and for that, it might be understood why your conclusion is so warped. However, it would serve you well if you would take a good look at the streams of blood that have marked the course of the history of christians and jews. It would help you to be more balanced in your views.
People ask: Didn't we learn anything from WWII? Yes, we did and it is this: Do not sit idly by while your enemy prepares for war and uses diplomacy as a mean to stall until he is ready to prosecute war.
A preemptive strike can be a means to preventing a much larger conflagration. I stress the "can be". Israel and the West must look deeply into net assessment before pulling the trigger, but if the conditions are right, then, by all means, fire.
I bet that if we could go back to 1936, knowing what we know today, Great Britain, France and the U.S. would have done things differently. Thus. the lesson from World War II.
Hindsight is always 20/20, it is foresight that requires a visit to the optometrist.
Frank, it was Deb, the anti-Zionist, who made the comparison to Nazi Germany.
That's right Roger
Iran is preparing to create an environment so their messiah will return ( complete worldwide chaos )
They are a theocracy and they believe their craziness with all their heart
They want to meet Moe...without Larry and Curly
The rest of the world is also doing a great job helping with the chaos
Its a great time to be in America....Happy 4th everyone ( fireworks included )
Man, I hate when people bring up the USS Liberty. It happened almost 50 years ago (!) and both sides considered it to be an error. Furthermore, Israel paid reparations for its mistake (not a small amount by any means). Furthermore, there is absolutely zero motivation for Israel doing that. I know that there are certain opinion claiming that Israel could benefit from such an attack, but they are all ridiculous and make no sense (I have done much research on the subject).
This is the meaning of propaganda, when people say "Israel is an enemy of the US! Look at the USS Liberty!"
It's such total nonsense, but because it's a touchy subject that few people actually know about, it has certain effects (or is intended to have those effects), even 45 years later. There are idiots on this board who merely mention 'USS Liberty' and then think they have somehow made a great point and won an argument.
Please leave your uneducated, unoriginal, non-sensical drab at home. As quoted from Billy Madison - we all are dumber for having heard that.
Everyone has now forgotten the Liberty.Very few people have forgotten the nazis or Iran.Soon Iran will join the demons of countries where their leaders die in their bunkers or are either hung by an international tribunal or by their own people.You are VERY right about the Libery N-529260.!
On Sunday, Iran threatened to wipe Israel "off the face of the earth" if the Jewish state attacked it.
If I were Jewish, I would not be so patient! How can anyone live life under constant threat of attack?
Israel has neither desire nor ability to wipe Iran of the map. Iran is way too large to be wiped of completely.
However, they just might wipe their nuklear sites of the map, if it comes to that.
There is still hope that they can avoid a fight all together. After all, neither side want to strike first.
Israel has nukes, they could completely and utterly destroy Iran. I'm not sure if that would be the correct path to take, but the option is there.
Israel has one of the most powerful military programs on the planet, and their tech is of the highest caliber.
They are not murderers like the muslims are though. They do however realize that the muslims are crazy, and a nuke attack would cause alot of global unrest, and probably cause alot of other muslims from different countries to attack as well.
So Israel never murdered anyone? Cue the laugh tracks plz. Stop playing off as so innocent all the time.
By all means try to present examples, we'll all enjoy rebuking them, and try somethingother than USS Liberty, that one got boring about 20 years ago.
They think killing Americans is boring, and believe it's a conspiracy theory. This is your "friend". Yes, you need to see everything spelled out with footnotes. Why don't you state your sources that it's not true? You are laughable. Yes, I know you have a keen talent for discrediting anything to suit your needs, so what? Congratulations on being caniving weasels. Here is your award.
I am not the one who needs to site sources. US government agreed that it was an accident. You claim that it wasn't - you should be the one presenting proof.
Isreal does possess the ability to "wipe Iran off the map"! It's called "Nuclear weapons". Isreal is but waiting for a clear sign that Iran will not comply with the civilized worlds request to give up their nuclear weapons pursuit. If this fails, then let there be no doubt that Isreal will retaliate. If at any point, Isreal feels that it my be in danger of losing, then and only then will the "nuclear option" come into play. Isreal has a policy, it's called "Scorched earth", look it up!
Why take so much trouble?
Hire some Sunni Islamic militants and show them 72 virgins photos and send them to remove Iranian nuclear facilities!
About their missiles, I have got my doubts. It may strike some mosque in Iran itself!
The difference between Israel and Iran is that Iran would love to inflict mass civilian casualties to "wipe Israel off the map", and Israel is only concerned with Iran's nuclear program and their military threat.. get it yet?
This saber rattling and chest thumping of Iran is too similiar to nazi Germany in the 30's.The world must take their threats seriously.When Germany invaded Poland it was already too late to finish off Germany easily. There is nothing defensive about Iran´s positions.. just raw aggression and support of terrorism all over the world.They talk like "Mein Kumpf"is their bible.They must be watched very closely! And yes.. if necessary attacked forcefully by a multinational coalition to destroy their nuke sites!!
"Pray for the peace of Jerusalem...may they prosper who love thee." Because this open, blatant threat seems very frightening to me. I mean, if the Iranians had just said that they had weapons that could reach any country within a certain distance from them...but to specify Israel...well, that really is scary to me.
Do you find it just as scary when Israel threatens the Palestinians and takes their lands for settlements?
DEB,
Do you find it scary when followers of Hamas take wow to keep fighting until there is no Israel?
Israel never struck the first blow, not in dealing with Palestinians, nor anyone else, nor did they ever take any land that was not rightfully theirs.
Here we go again folks. Can't mention Israel without invoking Hitler. Yawn.
And please Eli, the world does not believe your lies. You may have said them so many times yourself that you now believe them, but some people have intelligence beyond being able to rip someone off.
Yes, Frank, some people have the intelligence, but you are clearly not one of those people since the only argument you can present in your favor is a 50-year old conspiracy theory.
Yes, deflect all with the mighty "conspiracy theory" shield. Pathetic. Time for some new material Eli. I know how you operate, and you are really not worth the time.
martin fart with his usual rhetoric of equating iranian ayatollah with the nazi again! Does he ever get tired of his own BS?
Iran's possession of missiles capaableof striking israel is a damn good development for peace. It is an effective deterrent that would certainly make the zionist rogue state thinks twice before launching any pre-emptive strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities.
I can suggest much better development for peace - just don't threaten Israel than they wont have any reason for preemptive strikes. Very simple.
If israel feels threatened by the development of Iranian nuclear facilities the opposite is also true. No doubt Iran is threatened by israel's possession of over 200 nuclear warheads and her warmongering posture and compell to develop the same as deterrent for self preservation.
To call for a nuclear-free Iran, one should also call the same for israel.
Henrich, Your anti-Isreal posturing is a bunch of BS!! Isreal was attacked by several Muslim countries at the same time! (Egypt-Syria) So to call Isreal "war mongering" is pure BS! Iran has become a "religious state", run by a Supreme Ayatolla that is bent on inflicting its will on the entire middle east. Iran has stated several times that it wishes to destroy Isreal. When a country makes a threat against Isreals very existance, then I support their position to defend themselves, and would submit that Iran is the aggressor.
Under BHO, Iran will get the bomb. Each any every action BHO has taken against Iran is because his hand was forced. Even now, BHO continues to stall on any and every action that involves Iran. BHO wants Israel to have to do the dirty work. That way BHO and the world can then come down on Israel while at the same time BHO can continue appeasing his buddies (the Muslim world).
From another point of view one could say BHO has been Iran's best friend since Jimmy (hide-in-the-Rose-Garden) Carter.
1. Remember Iran's Green Revolution? You know the precursor to today's Arab Spring. BHO said and did absolutely nothing when the people or Iran were up fighting their government. BHO finally did pay lip service to it after the other leaders of the free world criticized him for leading from behind.
2. Remember BHO saying "that he is not convinced Iran is after the nuclear bomb." Just after BHO came into office.
3. Remember BHO's reaction to Iran sending M-300 Grad missiles to Hezbollah? - nada, zip, ... just more lip service.
4. Remember the Iraqi War that we won and BHO "inherited". FYI - Under BHO Iran is now the winner in Iraq. In short, BHO allowed Iran to become the dominate foreign political power in Iraq by doing nothing.
5. Remember the new SOFA agreement BHO failed to get signed after 3 years in office? Remember BHO wanting to leave 3,000 sitting targets in Iraq? By his failure (and Hillary as Sec of State) the 4,500 who lost their lives were for nothing.
5. Remember BHO sanctions against Iran, the weakest set of sanctions yet and he took 16 months of dithering before BHO finally got them in place. FYI - Everyone knows it takes years for sanctions (sometimes decades) to work, if ever.
6. Remember Iran just two months ago trying to blow up Saudi, Israeli in America? BHO said this was unacceptable. Only to completely back of on all actions, even sanctions for this. Then BHO said he would have to check with the internatioanl community. Finally, BHO said he would not take any action since it might hurt the world's recovering economy.
7. Remember Afghanistan? Under BHO, Afghanistan will fall the very same way Vietnam did. The winners Pakistan and you got it! - Iran.
8. BHO, just two months ago BHO also had a known Terrorist, paid by Iran, and a leader in the Kobar Towers bombing at the White House. The BHO Admin claims they did not know it. B.S. - No one gets to see the president without the Secrety Service at least checking a visitors back ground out.
9. Heck! Recently, Ayatollah Khamenei, Iran's Supreme Leader, Hailed BHO's Comments As 'Window Of Opportunity'
10. Under BHO's policy toward Iran, which will be his "greatest failing, from a foreign policy standpoint. Surpassing his helping all those countries he helped "free" in North Africa to become extremist states.
11. The EU, with BHO leading from behind, recently threw some real sanctions against Iran. What does BHO do, BHO authorizes exceptions to 10 countries. Under mining the full strength of the new sanctions.
12. BHO, seeing the EU is getting even more serious, stalls "new" sanctions by suggesting Iran be allowed to Enrichment nuclear materials to 5%. Iran is not going to agree to monitoring but, you sure can be Iran will use it to stall again. BHO's own tactics to stall EU sanctions have now been going on for three months now. Only in this case, neither side has even decided what to discuss, this is stalling BHO style!
13. BHO, at the end of June 2012, exempted 20 countries buying oil from Iran. These countries can buy oil from Iran, in turn helping Iran and weakening the sanctions.
"The Islamic Republic announced the "Great Prophet 7" missile exercise"
They are telling us and proving that their Great Prophet 7 is a total highly inaccurate BS!
Bart: You are so right on the money in using the past as a guide for the present - and the near future. This is my take in 1.13 above, written before I read you post. When will we learn from the past?
All this fear about Iran getting the bomb, ohh scary, welcome to the new world of the market states folks where technology, communications and markets are king and almost everything is commoditized including violence (PMC’s) and WMD, face it there is an international market for WMD (if not the weapons themselves then certainly the components to make em) and just like any market you cannot stop it when it gets going just look at the international guns and drugs trade
I find it laughable when people pretend there's such a place as a "Nation of Palestine".
Gaza was Egypt, and the West Bank was Jordan.
Neither wants the land or it's troublesome people.
You know both Israel and America are wasting their time here, both are trying so hard to prevent Iran from getting nukes, and to protect their influence in the region and yet all this is doing is making Iran more determined than ever to acquire such weapons , which they will do one day (just like any other nation) after all the time of wealthy nations (like the US) having a monopoly on such weapons is over, and there already is an international black market for the components for WMDS. I think that this whole WMD thing is just something we are all going to have to get used to.
.......tick, tick, tick. As the "world powers" dither, the Iranian's continue to develop their nuclear capabilities and strengthen their defenses. Tick, tick, tick....
Yeah......and Israel can do whatever they want and have zero regulation. The propaganda is old and tired. We are able to read about history now from MANY sources. You can't hide behind the lies forever.
I know, I know.....everyone else is lying and Israel is an innocent and peace loving people.
They really think everyone is that stupid.
Not everyone, just you.
Eli is Captain Smart everyone. ooooooooooooo
i bet you befor they get it israel will end it for them
Gator; Yep, tick, tick, tick. Why should we wait for the alarm to go off? To me, it is obvious by what Iran says and does that we are, through dithering or sleeping, allowing Iran to choose what time we will wake up. I'm sure that time will make us late for school.
Frank is an idiot. I don't really care to comment on the story, but that needed to be said. Carry on :)
Just another reason why the world can not tolerate a nuclear armed Iran!
Iran is led by a madman. He is the product of a religion that celebrates suicide bombings. He can not be allowed to possess nuclear weapons. If he has them, he will certainly use them. Not only the US and Israel, but all the civilized nations of the world must take any steps necessary to ensure that it never happens.
A radioactive atmosphere will not respect national borders!
Rather israel is lead by a madman and her founding fathers were terrorists.
Henrich von Dorf's pen name suggests what his fantasies are.
Yeah cass baby my fantasy is to see israel rids herself of the zionist bigots who control the government and returns to the 1967 border, dismantles all illegal settlements, end the siege in Gaza and lives in peace with a parallel Palestinian state.
Your fantasies are israel has done never wrong and anyone critical of israel should be ridiculed. You are no difference to other zionist apologists.
What is wrong with that?
When is the isreali dikheads going to understand this?
Why doesn't Israel comply to regulatory measures? Hypocrites. Stop dragging the USA into your battles. Shed your own blood and spend your own money. Allies? Look up the USS Liberty.
Look up USS Vincennes.
And, The SOONER The BETTER. The god-LESS "STATE" of "ISRAEL" are this era's Nazis.
we have the Italians to thank for that!
critical times hard to deal with, will be here.
Who is rational and who is not? a country who has more than 200 nuclear warhead and has occupied some part of almost all of its neighbors, and above all is not a signatory to NPT and openly threatening Iran for perusing its right according to international laws is called rational by west and Iran is called enemy number one because under illegal sanctions, unfair prejudgments -I say enmity-, Israel's hallucinations and this stupid Islamophobia, it says it will defend itself IF ATTACHED!!
We in Iran are not enemy to anyone and by a glance to our last 200 years history, you can see that we never started a war or invaded a country. That WIPE OFF the map myth repeating almost every time in western media is more like a joke in Iran. The point is that as western governments are almost always proud of their guns and military powers, automatically link any form of destruction to military options. As far as I concern the population of so call or better to say, wiped nation, Palestinians are now more than Israelis in middle east and by a fair referendum the current regime will be WIPED OFF!! Won't it? so there is no military option in this democratic approach and that is why your version of story is a sheer lie!!
Some of guys compared us -Iranian Nation- with NAZIs, just because we are not closing our eyes to reality, not to keep quiet and not to see the ugliness of occupation, horror and discrimination in Gaza! We are against any form of unjustness and it doesn't matter if its NATZis genocide and murdering lots of innocent jews which no real muslim ever dare to think about such an unforgivable inhumanity, or this heartbreaking situation in Gaza and west bank!
Last but not least, remember that we used to halt any form of Uranium enrichment activities for two years and during those years western powers didn't even let us to do some research regarding to enhancing our abilities in peaceful nuclear activities yet along assisting us in this field. Now How they expect us to trust them again!? give up the 20% which a day was one of the pressure points against our nation although it has medical usage, for airplane utilities? Now We are making some light and passenger airplanes!! If our negotiator accept such a treat we will definitely send him straight to a lunatic caring Center!!!
An Iranian Engineer.
Well that's what they do. They mis-translate things, and then run with it. The philosophy is "if you repeat something enough of times, everyone will believe it". They prey on peoples stupidity, and unfortunately, they are good at it, and there is an abundance of stupid out there. Just want you to know that we don't all believe everything as it appears in the news Samy.
If Iran is so peace-loving, they can just let the inspectors in, show them that there are no bombs, and everything will be just peachy.
Nuclear inspectors from the international community did inspect the Iranian nuclear facilities and found no evidence linked to the production of nucelar weapons. On the other hand israel continues to reject any inspection of her nuclear facilites.
Who is more peace-loving?
Heinrich!!! You will never be able to reason with some one like "Eli". These thick-headed, blind followers of Israel will never be able to see the facts. These are the real fanatic, lunatic religious nutbags and the only thing they believe that the jews have the right to do anything for their survival and they have the only right to do so.
Samy, I commend you for honestly saying who you are...since we have too many posters here who use all-American pen names, only to make it all too obvious that they are really Arabs in very thin disguise.
Henrich and Gabe,
Israel does not have ot let the inspectors in because they never signed the treaty, so they have legal right for nukes.
Iran did sign the treaty, so they do have to prove that they don't have nukes. So far, UN does not look convinced, so they wil lhave to keep working on it.
Or Iran can pull out of the treaty, than they can tell all the insperctors to go to hell and build all the nukes they want. A very simple solution.
They should pull out of the treaty. But Uncle Sucker will do whatever it takes to make them live up to it anyway. I hope that the Iranians go down fighting. Drive the barrel of oil to $300.00, forcing Uncle Sucker to bring back the draft. Have every American that died during the Iraq war, die for nothing. All because Uncle Sucker is Israel bitch. I for one will not take part in the war. I will not die for Israel.
Hey has anyone ever seen a Bin Laden video with the original AUDIO, unedited and not translated? Ever see one get translated by a group of independent people?
I didn't think so. Now do as you are told.
now that is something not to brag about. ISRAEL will pay them a visit. they kick there ass
Nothing was done about the buildup of Nazi Germany, over one hundrerd million people were lost.Oh well, I wish we would have stayed out of it, then we would not have this problem with the middle east crap that is eating us up!
the US has give Israel the go ahead to hit there development sights. i am suprize they are not smoking allready
What are you liberals going to do with yourselves when Obama takes us to war with Iran?
I find it slightly odd, if not completely ironic and hypocritical; that the Iranians say they believe in a peaceful Islam, and a peaceloving prophet, while at the same time naming a weapon of potential mass destruction, "Great Prophet 7".
Do what you want, I'm going fishing.
Notice this article says nothing about Iran's SRBM able to reach Greece and Italy. Notice it also fails to mention that the ABM System Obama is having installed, uses 2nd rate RADAR (instead of X-band), 2nd rate intercept missiles and will not be in place fully for years to come.
Have you people lost your mind? Do you really believe everything you see on television? Now lets think about this for a minute. Why and under what right does America or Israel justify an attack on Iran or sanctions for that matter? What has Iran done wrong? Iran's business is Iran's business not anyone else. Who is telling you that Iran shouldn't have enriched uranium or shouldn't test and develop a missile? Where did you learn that a country has no right to defend itself? That only certain countries have the right to possess certain means of defense? Who told you Iran is gonna nuke the world as soon as they get a nuke? Where do you learn this stuff? Really, I would like to know where you learned that it is justified for America and her allies to go around beating countries up with a stick and telling everyone what to do and what to develop or not develop. America has no business in other countries business period. Our military isn't supposed to go around policing the world and demolishing governments. Our soldiers should not be risking their lives and dying for someone else and their cause. Our troops took an oath to defend this country not Syria, not Iraq, not Libya, and certainly not Iran. I already know what some of you brainwashed people will say. "Well what about dictators that commit genocide against their own?" Fine if you personally want to go and help them then by all means get on a flippin plane and go to Syria and join a side. They will gladly give you a gun and ammo. If you don't want to risk you life then send em some cash in a get well card or something. But don't force other families and their sons and daughters to do it for you just because YOU feel it is morally just. Give me a break people please. Get your head out of main stream media and out of the sand and wake up to these warmongering leaders we seem to elect. For those of you who preach we need military over there for stability in foreign areas.... well listen to this folks. Iraq had a stable government until America went in and removed it and left a nice big void. Well think about it folks who do you think filled the void? The same people Saddam Hussein made a point to keep out of his country. Yep you guessed it... terrorists. Imagine that. America spreading instability around the globe. This is what I say "A change of government must come from it's citizens not from its neighbors, friends, or enemies." When the people overthrow their own government then it is much more stable transition then when a foreign power who knows nothing and I mean nothing of the culture, traditions, laws and ethics of the country they are trying to subdue. Am I the only one who sees the folly of our flawed foreign policy? Even the Russians are telling us it is wrong and to back off. We need to listen to our founding fathers and follow the constitution again. That is all I got to say about that.
Brilliantly said!!! I agree 100%
What has Iran done worng? Well how about terrorists atacks on 6 continents.And it's all on the internet.I´ve seen the results of 2 massive bombings in Buenas Aires that killed or wounded hundreds of people. The Iranian defense minister ans other Iranians are under an international arrest and detain order by Interpol.Argentina is no great friend of Israel or the U.S but they are insisting in the name of their dead citizens that Iran turn over these murderers to Argentina Not so long ago the Iranian defense minister had to de hustled out of Bolivia because Interpol was after him.And this is only the tip of the iceburg of the terrorism from Iran.If you think Iran has done nothing wrong,then you don´t read the news on the net in papers on T.V and from Muslim countries and from all parts of the world and in many different languages.Iran ,since the Islamic Revolution has been a terrorist nation.And it´s all out there! Give me a break.What has Iran done wrong?.Just ask the victims or the survivors of Iran´s terrorism."What has Iran done wrong?" That´s a good one!
No Iran did not perform any terrorist attacks. None at all. Terrorist attacks are done by groups of individuals with a personal agenda not a sovereign nation. Iran has not attacked anyone for more than a century. Where did you learn that Iran performed terrorist attacks? Television? Wake up Bart. Use that noggin of yours and think about it for a minute. Do you believe everything you see or read? They are accused of these things you claim are true, just like the accused Americans that Obama murdered without fair trial and due process who were simply SUSPECTED of terrorist ties. You don't destroy someone because they are a suspect. You arrest them and take them to trial just like we did with Nazi war criminals. Again, wake up Bart and smell the burnt coffee of a mad Obama president who wishes to impose his will upon not just Americans but the entire world. To emphasize my point again, it is none of our business what Iran does in their own country. You want to fight Iran then by all means go to the airport get your nads fondled and fly to Israel and join the anti-Iranian movement. Or better yet send them some of your hard earned paycheck but don't send my tax money or my children to fight a senseless war on hypothetical reasoning and unproven facts.
One other thing Mr. Bart, Only America, Israel, and Argentina accuse Iran of the attacks and Iran denies the attacks. You don't find it odd that only 3 countries accuse Iran of a bombing that happened in the late 90s? You don't find it odd that two of those countries are close allies? Now Argentina is coming under fire from America and Israel because they want a better trade plan with Iran and if trade improves they vowed to stop investigating the bombings. Imagine that Mr. Bart. Argentina wanting to peacefully trade with Iran. Hmmmm now that goes against everything America and Israel have brainwashed their citizens into believing. I traveled to 17 countries in my prime including Iran, Saudi arabia, N. Korea, Vietnam, and many others. I have witnessed what those people are like and it is nothing what our government claims. Get your passport if you have the balls to learn the truth and get out into the world and see for yourself what is really happening. Oh and if you turn off the boob tube for a week you just might break the illusion your government has you living in.
Jewish options:
1. Hope the Islamic Empire becomes reasonable. (Never going to happen.)
2. Leave the area. (Not going to happen, impractical and unrealistic.)
3. First strike as a defensive move. (Compare to WW1 when Germany was blamed for starting the war due to German mobilization.) If they did this, it would have to be theater wide, 'once and for all'. There would be no point in just taking out one branch of the Islamic Empire and leaving all the rest to stew and rapidly build thousands of nukes.
If 3, would there be political fall out? Obviously yes. Severe, with boycotts, condemnations, etc.
But with Iran going full steam and being surrounded, ... the Battle of Midway taught the US that the only defense was to attack. You simply can't defend against nuclear weapons unless you attack first.
It's possible to use nuclear weapons as a deterrent, as the US did against the Russians. But the Russians were secular and did not have the same 'suicide' theology. In other words, the German Nazis didn't even kill themselves just to kill Jews, but the theology of "radical" Islam is a completely different animal, not concerned with it's own survival, suicide in the name of Allah is an ideal, a goal, and there's always the chance that Allah would thwart any retaliation, or that smuggled nukes might not be traceable...
Game theory of the 50's suggested strongly that the US attack the USSR first.
It turns out the USSR was willing to back down at the Bay of Pigs, because they were not a theological politic.
The USSR was involved in the Bay of Pigs fiasco?? What else did you get wrong?
He means USSR backed down AFTER the Bay of Pigs, when they saw that USA is ready to strike back.
An Israel has had x decades to prepare for this obvious nuclear eventuality.
The only question is, what are the trigger conditions?
I suspect the conditions are well thought out, clear, concrete and automatic.
I suspect the trigger conditions resemble what Iran is racing towards fulfilling.
Just like the Global Hawk's that slammed into the wtc
Can you all imagine the number of lives that would have been spared if Israel were founded somewhere in the U.S. territorial region rather than in the middle of hornets' nest? Jews control a lot of the U.S. politics and media anyway - why does a country of 8,000,000 people have so much importance in the U.S. compared to say, India or Africa with billions? All the BS over the decades over land, religion - how absurd. Not to mention displacing other people and being in a violent region. Think about it. It is all about land and religion - and the land is only important to the religion. Physical Things vs. Human Lives - stupid, stupid, stupid. And it will all end with the end of us all.
Why, yes, Andres, the Jews control the media...which is why we were treated to THREE movies and miniseries about the Kennedys, and not one of them mentioned that Bobby was killed by a Palestinian terrorist.
Andres The Jews returned to their homeland. It wasn`t founded there in 1948 but thousands of years ago..Now if all the Muslims who conquered so much of the world by the sword( and are still doing it) returned to Mecca and Medina in Saudia Arabia then the middle east could sort itself out. The billions of people who live in Muslim countries would love if the Muslims returned home. And there is plenty of land in Saudia Arabia when they return to their home which is the only real home of Mohammed and his religion.Or if they want to go to Antartica .Or maybe thr Australian outback. That makes as much sense as the Jews going to the U.S..!
Gee, exactly how many Jews were living in the middle-east before WWII - give me a number - I don't think half-million. So, if their "homeland" were formed thousands of years ago, please support the Native Americans who may want New York or Chicago, etc. And, I am certain that their "homeland" is a little closer than thousands of years ago. Do you think about what you write. And, it certainly makes sense that the U.S. would be a great place for New Israel. Who has provided the Grand 8,000,000 with more support than any other country?? How can you compare the middle-east countries already in existence prior to the WWII to with coming and "forming" a country?
Cassandra, you are writing about movies? How many movies have been made about Hitler's program of mass extermination of the Jews compared with his program of mass extermination of Slavs, Gypsies, etc. Compare this to movies made about Pot-Pol in Cambodia, among other great genocides. There is absolutely no doubt that Jews control the media and in many ways, Middle-Eastern policies. Read Noam Chomsky - a Jew, and infinitely smarter than me. I wonder how many films were made of Sabra and Shantila? I've met Jews who never even heard of those massacres which Sharon himself took "personal responsbility" for.
How many photos have you seen of weeping and mourning Palestinians, Andres? Plenty, I bet. And how many self-haters like Noam Chomsky do you admire? Plenty more. And incidentally, the Jewish migration to Israel started before WWII...in the late 19th century, to be exact, when they purchased the property from the Arab landowners.
Buying property isn't the same as starting a country - and I'm still waiting for numbers. But the point here is that the whole thing revolves around land and religion, and clearly not what was an established nation-state. And regardless of what is "right" or "wrong", the effect has been disastrous when there were many different options for the Jews. Jews who lived in Europe wanted a homeland because they weren't wanted in Europe and were on the verge of destruction. If they really wanted the middle east Israel, they could have left Europe for the "homeland" before but they didn't - so that land was not as important then. So what great difference would it make in the middle-east or somewhere else - that is the question. The only difference is land and religion - and since I am agnostic, no one can convince me that it is of singular importance to be in the middle east as opposed to else where. But if you believe that that is the "Holy Land" and the Jews are the "chosen people" who are entitled to it - then end of discussion. Oh - and by the way, there are as many Jews actually living in the U.S. as there are in Israel. Think about it.
Well hello, its time, a foe that has thrown a pipe wrench into the works, "Iran", they will try to down play the missiles that Iran is testing, but truth is the only reason the cowards have not attacked Iran yet, is because Iran is a treat that can deal with Israel and with support of Russia and China, " lets look at this"
First, the Missiles are made with Korean Technology and their intent is to target military piece, War Ships and Bases, Israel will be dealt with using Troops with weapon provided by Russia and China, Iran's goal will be to inflict Death and casualties like Vietnam and Korea for the American People to see and hopefully take control back from the war profiteers, this is not WW3, their will not be a nuclear exchange, Iran does not have nuclear weapon, what we have here is the U.S. and Israel trying to find a way to attack, without taking an ass beating which is long overdue, Russia and China will use this event to put balance back into the world, when it comes to the use of Military Power.
We should all be ashamed, if Iran wants Nuke Missiles, we should give them some, it is their choice, don't we have some Sub's in the area that can deliver them..say 2?
Be careful what you want Iran, you may just get it....
Can't we all just get along..........
Sincerly Mr. King (poolside)