Report: Hitler ordered his Jewish World War I commander protected

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The Jewish Voice From Germany website displays the story about the discovery of a letter saying Adolf Hitler wanted to protect Ernst Hess, a Jew who briefly was Hitler's commander during World War I.

Adolf Hitler personally intervened to protect a Jewish man who had been his commanding officer during World War I, according to a letter unearthed by the Jewish Voice from Germany newspaper.

The letter, written in Aug. 27, 1940, by Heinrich Himmler, head of the Nazis' feared paramilitary SS, said Ernst Hess, a judge, should be spared persecution or deportation and receive “relief and protection as per the Fuhrer's wishes.”

Historian Susanne Mauss discovered the letter.


"It was a wonderful chance find," she told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Friday. "There had always been rumors, but this was the first written reference to a protection by Hitler."

The letter was found in official archives containing files that the Nazi secret police, or Gestapo, kept on Jewish lawyers and judges. Mauss said its authenticity is corroborated by other documents, including one owned by Hess' surviving daughter, Ursula Hess, 86.

Hess, a decorated World War I hero who briefly commanded Hitler's company in Flanders, worked as a judge until Nazi racial laws forced him to resign in 1936. The same year he was beaten up by Nazi thugs outside his house, the paper said.

Hitler had ordered the genocide of all Europe’s Jews. His orders led to the deaths of 6 million Jews.

In a petition to Hitler at that time, Hess wrote: "For us it is a kind of spiritual death to now be branded as Jews and exposed to general contempt."

Hess and his family moved for a time to a German-speaking area of northern Italy but were then forced to return to Germany, where he discovered Hitler's protection order had been revoked.

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He spent the rest of World War II doing slave labor but he escaped death partly thanks to the fact that his wife was a gentile. Hess' sister died in the Auschwitz death camp, but his mother managed to escape to Switzerland.

Hess remained in Germany after the war, becoming head of the Federal Railway Authority based in Frankfurt. He died in 1983.

Ursula Hess, still living in Germany, told the paper in an interview that her father had benefited from a chance encounter with another World War I comrade, Fritz Wiedemann. He became Hitler's adjutant and used his influence to win concessions for Hess, she was quoted as saying.

Ursula Hess also recalled her father saying that as a young corporal in World War I, Hitler had no friends in their regiment and had kept himself very much to himself.

The paper's publisher, Rafael Seligmann, said that whether Hitler had helped protect Hess or not didn't change the Nazi leader's genocidal record.

"History won't need to be rewritten because of this," he said.

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What a wonderful man! NOT!!!

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#1 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

The letter in Gestapo/SS files was dictated and written by HEINRICH HIMMLER. The letter alluded it to be the wish of Herr Fuehrer. What is so evident today that people are not aquinted with history in general and the Third Reich in particular. Himmler's masseur FELIX KERSTEN worked for British MI6- he was their agent in high place. Himmler suffered from chronic stomach pains and 'nerves- neurologiical or physcological. Herr Himmler extended many favours to Felix Kersten- who on behalf of those in KZs sought favours from Himmler while alleviating his pains. World Jewish Congress ackowledged Kersten at the end of war for having saved 60,000 Jews from KZs at the end of the war thru manipulating Himmler- he also faciliated the Red Cross/Bernadotte and Himmler talks freeing Norwegians/Dutch from KZs- the Dutch even nominated Kersten for Nobel Peace Price. Don't buy a pig in a poke (sack)-learn history- compare historical accounts- see back-up material in different languages. Adolf Hitler was an arch antiSemite. Martin Bormann was the gatekeeper for all Hitler's correspondence by the way.

  • 10 votes
#1.1 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

This is an example of brain-dead media. How kind of furor to have made exception to his own policy of killing all jews!! (Sarcasm).

So lets go ahead and find some more examples from Khmer Rouge, Taliban and lets glorify them as well.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

PJ I read no glorification of Hitler into this article or between the lines. Maybe just your bias. I just see a pretty flat, factual reporting. If anyone should have bias, it should be me, whose ancestry was decimated by the Holocaust.

If you think the reporting of the sparing of Hess' life is glorification in any way, you've got your own issues. Let the rest of us who wish to learn about all aspects of Hitler's life alone. Perhaps we can help prevent repeats of the horror he created.

  • 28 votes
#1.3 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

Very well put, unfortunately, most Americans only read the bold print in the news, not books written from other view points as you suggest. History is pointed and you are correct on all those accounts.

To those that wish to learn, look for books written after ww2 by the living generals of espionage and you'll know exactly how and why this letter and many more like it were created.

The real heroes are often shrouded in secrecy as they were spies. But then those were the days when average men and women sacrificed torture, lives and family just for the cause. Unheard of in today's average person in the world, so how could they begin to connect?

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:53 PM EDT

Meebs why don't you actually read PJ's letter. You say if "anyone should have bias it should be me".You don't know PJ's life story how can you say that. It just came off as very selfish and self serving.

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 12:23 AM EDT

hitler won...he will be remembered always...never forgotten and hated...seems we keep evil in the spotlight more then good people...

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

What makes the third reich worse than LA RAZA?

  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 11:17 AM EDT
Comment author avatarJerry-1927474Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

We have a lot of hitlers here in America, they are in every state murdering and torturing the unborn and the just delivered babies. Instead of hitler they are called abortionist.

  • 1 vote
#1.8 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

Jerry, you need help. Really get help before you do something that you'll be sorry for.

  • 15 votes
#1.9 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

Good piece....we should include a detailed study of WWII in school curriculums instead of the carte blanche version that people get today.

There are a number of political parties that are surprisingly similar to the Nazi party of Germany in the first part of this century. If we studied them in detail, people may be able to realize that something like the holocaust was not the result of a madman but the result of a particular style of political maneuvering.

  • 10 votes
#1.10 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

During the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weizman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weizman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

And then, after the bitterest episode in Jewish history, these Zionist "statesmen" lured the broken refugees in the DP camps to remain in hunger and deprivation, and to refuse relocation to any place but Palestine; only for the purpose of building their State.

In 1947 Congressman William Stration sponsored a bill to immediately grant entry to the United States of 400,000 displaced persons. The bill was not passed after it was publicly denounced by the Zionist leadership. [Source]

EXTERMINATE: "drive away," from L. exterminatus, pp. of exterminare "drive out, expel, drive beyond boundaries"

The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official goodwill, go with them."10 Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11

The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis, Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.

There is nothing quite so bizarre as a blonde-haired blue-eyed German Jew in Palestine who believes he has more of an historical claim to that land than the Arabs do.

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#1.11 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

wtf jerry, this has nothing to do with what you are talking. we will end all abortions and drop the unwanted kids on your door step

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#1.12 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

jews always try to act like they are so proud to be jewish-so why come over here in the 1920's and lie about your heritage and change your name so you can blend into our society- bull, the germans and italians did the same thing, acting like their proud but changing their names and backgrounds to blend in-- fake liars-

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#1.13 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

Epinnoia

Funny that you dont include a link, it's plagiarism without a link. It's bull@!$%# as well!!

Did you not provide a source because it comes from here http://www.rense.com/general74/holl.htm

Do you think that an anti-semitic, neo-Nazi hate site is an appropriate historical source regarding people of the Jewish faith ?

Jeff Rense American Nazi

The popular radio talk show host Jeff Rense attempts to pass himself off as what many extremists are now claiming that they are...an "anti-Zionist". Blatantly anti-semitic groups such as National Alliance use the term "anti-Zionism" to fool people into thinking that they do not hate Jews as a race but rather are only against the state of Israel and against supporters of zionism. It is my opinion that these two are the same thing. Why? Because anti-Zionism means denying the fact that the Jewish people came from Israel. I have been to Israel. I have seen ancient archaelogical sites, tombs, etc. with hebrew writing on them. There is proof everywhere backing a state of Israel and not a state of "Palestine". I have never seen any sites there with ancient arabic writing. I have yet to see any with even the word "Palestine" on them in any such language, let alone Arabic. Therefore, anti-zionism is denial of Jewish existance, denial of Jewish homeland, denial of the obvious proof right before your eyes that Israel does and has always belonged to the Jews, and denial of the horrible terrorism being committed against the Jewish people by the "Palestinians". That couldn't be more anti-semitic.

Now, let's take a closer look at Jeff Rense for a minute. If you visit his website and scroll down you will notice many anti-Israel articles but you will also notice a small cartoon of an octopus with a star of David on it's head and it's tentacles wrapped around the earth, showing obvious belief in the false book "the Protocols of the learned elders of Zion" where a Jewish plan to control the world is unveiled. What is yet even more disturbing about this cartoon is it's striking similarity to a cartoon created by the nazi propagandist Josef Plank.

Unfortunately, I am unable to post Rense's cartoon on this page due to copyrights. To see his anti-semitic cartoon please visit www.rense.com then compare it to this one and judge for yourself as to who you believe influenced Rense's little cartoon.

http://voiceoftruth.bravehost.com/rensenazi.htm

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

I agree that this is neither a glorification of Adolf Hitler, nor does it diminish his horrible acts. In fact, Ernst Hess still met the same fate as the other Jews, according to the article. If anything, this article highlights Hitler's evil ways, by showing he first protected, then betrayed Hess.
Always examine what written, how it's written and why it's written, before making conclusions.

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#1.15 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

There is proof everywhere backing a state of Israel and not a state of "Palestine".

By this logic, we should vacate the US and give it back to the Indians.

Beyond that, you are denying the very existence of the Palestinian people. And in the same paragraph, you are saying that denying the right of Jews to Palestine is deny Jews their existence.

Do you not see how unjust you are?

Why should you not be judged by your own yardstick? By your own rules, you are a monster.

  • 3 votes
#1.16 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 2:22 PM EDT

@Meebs

You are quite a moron on multiple levels.

a) there was no need for personal attacks.

b) there was no need to make inference about others having issues or not based on their views.

c) no need to equals "factual" reporting with reporting that misleads by showing exceptional examples.

d) If there is any lesson from Hitler's life - it is that a madman can lead decent people to do truly inhumane things. I don't think I can learn anything meaningful by reading one act of "kindness" that came with probability of 1 out of 6M. Perhaps you are confusing your weakness at statistics with being free from bias. Good luck to your future generations.

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#1.17 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

Beyond that, you are denying the very existence of the Palestinian people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen

Mohsen himself was in fact both a leader of the Syrian Ba'ath party controlled as-Sa'iqa faction of the PLO and a Palestinian member of the Syrian Ba'ath party's own National Command in the present day nation of Syria itself. Making Zuheir Mohsen uniquely both a PLO leader and an official in the ideologically Pan-Arabist Syrian Ba'ath party at the same time. As such, he stated that there were "no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese", though Palestinian identity would be emphasised for political reasons. This originated in a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw:[5]

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism."

Wage Jihad.

"For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."

Secular history of the word Palestine.

The nation of Jordan was 80% of the "Mandate of Palestine",(map of the British mandate of Palestine)
given to the British after WW 1, and the victory over the Turkic Ottoman empire, a theocratic construct known as the Caliphate.

The Ottomans, claimed the right to the land because an imaginary friend (allah) of a pedophile ( or in politically correct speak, a dude who an inordinate fondness of pre-pubescent little girls) said is was Ok.

Mohammad sent letters to the neighbouring kings or rulers expressing his personal desire that they submit to his will. One such letter can be found here.

This is the justification for the conquest of the Byzantine empire, conducted by the Armies of 'allah'. The Byzantine Empire were the remnants of the Roman Empire, who stole the land from the Jews in 135 (AD)

Bar Kokhba, original name Simeon Bar Kosba, Kosba also spelled Koseba, Kosiba, or Kochba, also called Bar Koziba (died ad 135), Jewish leader who led a bitter but unsuccessful revolt (ad 132–135) against Roman dominion in Palestine.

The people living in "Palestine" are Jewish people. Palestine is the name given to the land after Roman conquest. The Jews living there called it Judea and Samaria. Again the name Palestine, is Roman. Romans are not Arabs.

In the Arabic language there is no P letter, or P sound. Therefore there could never been a historic Arab nation called Palestine.

During his tour of the Eastern Empire in 131, the Roman emperor Hadrian decided upon a policy of Hellenization to integrate the Jews into the empire. Circumcision was proscribed, a Roman colony (Aelia) was founded in Jerusalem, and a temple to Jupiter Capitolinus was erected over the ruins of the Jewish Temple.

Enraged by these measures, the Jews rebelled in 132, the dominant and irascible figure of Simeon bar Kosba at their head. Reputedly of Davidic descent, he was hailed as the Messiah by the greatest rabbi of the time, Akiva ben Yosef, who also gave him
the title Bar Kokhba (“Son of the Star”), a messianic allusion. Bar Kokhba took the title nasi (“prince”) and struck his own coins, with the legend “Year 1 of the liberty of Jerusalem.”

The Roman historian Dion Cassius noted that the Christian sect refused to join the revolt.

No mention of Muslims, or Arabs because Mohammad and the Islamic conquests would not come about for many centuries.

Of course the well oiled Palestinian propaganda machine, rejects reality, and claims all of the Jews and Christians living there were some how Muslims. (LOL)

The Jews took Aelia by storm and badly mauled the Romans’ Egyptian Legion, XXII Deiotariana. The war became so serious that in the summer of 134 Hadrian himself came from Rome to visit the battlefield and summoned the governor of Britain, Gaius Julius Severus, to his aid with 35,000 men of the Xth Legion. Jerusalem was retaken, and Severus gradually wore down and constricted the rebels’ area of operation, until in 135 Bar Kokhba was himself killed at Betar, his stronghold in southwest Jerusalem. The remnant of the Jewish army was soon crushed; Jewish war casualties are recorded as numbering 580,000, not including those who died of hunger and disease. Judaea was desolated, the remnant of the Jewish population annihilated or exiled, and Jerusalem barred to Jews thereafter. But the victory had cost Hadrian dear, and in his report to the Roman Senate on his return, he omitted the customary salutation “I and the Army are well” and refused a triumphal entry

An interesting map of the time can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea as you can see modern Israel is much smaller than the Jewish peoples historic lands.

Arabs lead by Khalid ibn al-Walid (or the sword of allah) who invaded in 634 (AD) or so, still "occupy" some land that historically had been Jewish land.

There is not a shred of evidence supporting a single "Arab" village or town, in the area before this date, and the start of the Jihad.

Reality, logic and reason, most win out over dogma, or insanity will take hold.

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#1.18 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

kpr37,

It was not from Rense, although I do not doubt that Rense picked it up as well. In typical fashion, you cannot accept the truth. Is there a particular portion which you reject? We could start there. The etymology is spot on. The quotes are spot on. You just don't like to see things that don't fit neatly within your carefully misconstrued reality...

As for your nonsense about plagerism -- did you not notice that I had it in blockquote? Or were your eyes simply too incensed by historical truth that you failed to notice? Zionists betrayed many Jews in order to set up Israel. You have a lot to learn...

  • 1 vote
#1.19 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

Do you not see how unjust you are?

Why should you not be judged by your own yardstick? By your own rules, you are a monster.

http://markhumphrys.com/left.israel.html

The left and Israel

Israel is a litmus test for me.

Palestinian Muslim totalitarians are fighting Jewish/secular democrats.

The former jail and torture gays. The latter have gay pride marches.

The former beat women for immodest dress. The latter have topless beaches

The former get new rulers when the old ones are shot and thrown off rooftops. The latter have decades of peaceful elections.

The former have sharia law. The latter are more secular than Ireland.

If you support the Palestinians, you have no moral compass.

There are a range of trendy reasons why westerners refuse to support a liberal western country under siege from people who do not subscribe to western values. Self-hatred may be the single most dominant reason. Hating Israel is a safe way of hating the west, for a certain left-wing mindset. Whatever the reasons, the left disgraces itself by its support for the Palestinians.

  • 3 votes
#1.20 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

kpr37,

The rules of the United Nations specifically state that no land may be taken by military force. PERIOD. The nonsense about the Indians is ridiculous, because that was not only beyond any of our say-so or control, but in a time when the UN didn't exist. Some of us know the history quite well. Deir Yassin ring a bell?

The land's name has been westernized into Palestine. As you should know, if you had any sense. The term 'Philistine Pentapolis' ring a bell?

  • 1 vote
#1.21 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

Reality, logic and reason, most win out over dogma, or insanity will take hold.

kpr37,

I have a degree in Philosophy -- and 4 semesters of increasingly-difficult logic courses under my belt. You?

  • 1 vote
#1.22 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.

Not quite the behavior we'd expect if the Nazis were trying to EXECUTE the Jews... Yes, they were being forcibly deported -- but that was also with the blessings of the Zionists at the time.

  • 1 vote
#1.23 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

If you support the Palestinians, you have no moral compass.

If you would lump all Palestinians together, and engage in collective guilt and collective punishment, then it is YOU who have no moral compass. I don't need to accept the belief system of my neighbor in order to see that he has been wronged, and realize that another group is dispossessing him of his land.

Israel cannot extend beyond its 1967 borders in any legitimate way. PERIOD.

  • 1 vote
#1.24 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

The rules of the United Nations specifically state that no land may be taken by military force. PERIOD. The nonsense about the Indians is ridiculous

(LOL) Dude, the Ottoman's were Turks, not Indians (Indians are mostly Hindus) Turks are mostly Muslims. The Himalayan Mountains, and around Two thousand miles separate them geographically. The peoples commonly called the "Turks" originate from the Russian steppe and the Boarder lands near China, That is why China built the wall.

Perhaps try reading more than comic books and Internet hate sites for information. Constantinople (Istanbul) was built by Greek Pagans

you got any sources other than anti-semitic hate sites. Just like your first source, this one is found to be sourced by the American Nazi Jeff Rense.

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.

http://www.rense.com/general34/ZAND.HTM

(that is a source of your comment) you don't link it, and that is where my search engine directs me when I search it's source.

I have a degree in Philosophy

Do you think a neo-Nazi philosophy is underrepresented in American social discourse? Or here at newsvine? (LOL)

Your (un-sourced) content can be found on some most undesirable web sites, and it can not in fact, be located, or linked to, from any mainstream sites.

If it were found on other sites, you would not plagiarise from an American Nazi.(like you have done again)

If you take the time to read the agreement with newsvine, you will see that when you copy and paste, you most link your source.

The term 'Philistine Pentapolis' ring a bell?

Why yes it does. It's a Greek word referring to the Sea peoples, that were from the Aegean area of the Mediterranean, making them Europeans not Arabs.

Philistine, one of a people of Aegean origin who settled on the southern coast of Palestine in the 12th century bc, about the time of the arrival of the Israelites. According to biblical tradition (Deuteronomy 2:23; Jeremiah 47:4), the Philistines came from Caphtor (possibly Crete). They are mentioned in Egyptian records as prst, one of the Sea Peoples that invaded Egypt in about 1190 bc after ravaging Anatolia, Cyprus, and Syria.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/456536/Philistine

  • 1 vote
#1.25 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

Dude, the Ottoman's were Turks, not Indians

Wrong Indians. I was speaking to the ridiculous notion that the USA must cede its land back to the Indians.

I asked you if you had a problem with some PARTICULAR part of the material I posted. Instead, you keep going back to Rense -- who absolutely didn't write it, because he's not even a writer of such stuff. He's a collection of writers. If it showed up on Rense's site, it is not surprising -- but that doesn't mean that Rense wrote it. You'd know that, if you knew half of what you think you do. I suggest you go look the quotes up again. You did a pretty bad job the first time.

You're actually pretty close, though. If you actually paid more attention rather than spew forth your emotional-driven nonsense... Here's a clue -- just because it's on Rense's site doesn't mean Rense wrote it. DUH!

BTW -- it is a fallacy to say that X is wrong just because Y said it. You'd know that if you even had a single semester of logic...

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#1.26 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

(that is a source of your comment) you don't link it, and that is where my search engine directs me when I search it's source.

And if you had any idea of how search engines worked, you would realize that the top searches generally only represent the most LINKED-to sources, not the actual SOURCE itself. This often happens to aggregating sites like Rense's.

Do you think a neo-Nazi philosophy is underrepresented in American social discourse? Or here at newsvine? (LOL)

I think you don't know your rear from a hole in the ground. I have a very firm understanding of philosophy, and the rules of logic -- because I have an actual degree in a field where that discipline resides. You, on the other hand, are little more than a bag of fallacies -- as you pull them out again and again.

You don't know anything about Rense, yet you want us to think you do. You think anyone that reports something that shows Zionists as they truly are must somehow be Nazis. While that sort of ad hominem attack might work with your fellow ignorant friends, it won't work with anyone who understands logic.

  • 2 votes
#1.27 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:06 PM EDT

Why yes it does. It's a Greek word referring to the Sea peoples, that were from the Aegean area of the Mediterranean, making them Europeans not Arabs.

You better do a bit more study. The fact that they were named by Greeks doesn't make them Europeans. If that's a demonstration of your logic skills, I can only recommend that you leave newsvine immediately, and go seek out a philosophy department for some classes in logic.

God also intentionally directed the Israelites away from the Philistines upon their exit from Egypt according to Exodus 13:17. In Genesis 21, Abraham agreed a covenant of kindness with the Philistine king Avimelech and his descendants.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistines

  • 2 votes
#1.28 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

jewsnotzionists.org/holocaust-zionism.htm

and

Endnotes:

10.Facsimile reprint of front page of Das Schwarze Korps, May 15, 1935, in: Janusz Piekalkiewicz, Israels Langer Arm (Frankfurt: Goverts, 1975), pp. 66-67. Also quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 377. See also: Erich Kern, ed., Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: FZ-Verlag, 1988), p. 184.

11.Das Schwarze Korps, Sept. 26, 1935. Quoted in: F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question (1985), pp. 56-57.

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#1.29 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 10:59 PM EDT
Reply

Awwww. Hitlers little rat heart actually pumped a drop of warm blood for a moment.

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Reply#2 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

Not likely. Surely he got something in return from his buddy Fritz.....Tit for tat and all that. You know that he was happy to give such a thing, knowing he'd get around to all the non-Rothschild Jews eventually anyway (He'd surely have gone for them, too, had they not been funding his tyranny and staying out of his Reichdom). What a deceiver. Whipped up a base of radical, armed bullies, lied to the Christians, got the fools to vote for him, got everyone under surveillance and then murdered his brown shirt mongrel thugs in their sleep, put the rich elite people he'd always envied in place and ground his country into the dirt. Hey, that kind of sounds like GOP tactics in the current election at the start of it......Teaparty thugs, gullible Christians and all that.

  • 11 votes
#2.1 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

please, do not insult the rats..

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#2.2 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 12:09 PM EDT

Have it all figured out don't you NC? You sure are no part of any solution.

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#2.3 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 12:54 PM EDT
Reply

What're the odds of that happening? 6 million to one?

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Reply#3 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

6,000,000:1

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#3.1 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:31 PM EDT
Reply

What're the odds of that happening? 6 million to one?

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Reply#4 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

it was funnier the first time around

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#4.1 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 11:12 PM EDT

Naw, it lingers nicely.

    #4.2 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 12:37 PM EDT
    Reply

    And my grandmother liked oyster soup. What in the world does this have to do with current world news?

    • 1 vote
    Reply#5 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

    It's a matter of historical significance while you, your grandmother, and her fetid soup are decidedly not.

    • 22 votes
    #5.1 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 7:56 PM EDT

    It could have been a earth-shattering good soup?

    • 1 vote
    #5.2 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:05 PM EDT

    charleyfarely, No soup for you! Come back, 1 year!

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    #5.3 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:18 PM EDT

    True we should not live in the past, however, we need to learn from the past so we won't allowed the likes of hitler to rule again. Ah, the presents is proving we are not very good students.

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    #5.4 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 1:58 PM EDT
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    Somehow I seriously doubt it was an act of genuine magnanimity on Adolph’s part.

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    Reply#6 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

    Well THAT makes everything ok. (???)

    • 2 votes
    Reply#7 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

    I understand that there were a few other Jews that Hitler had protected, including the doctor who had attended his mother, and scientist Otto Warburg. There may have been others, but whatever. Hitler did what Hitler wanted.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#8 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 7:30 PM EDT
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    Hey, no one's perfect.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#9 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

    Interesting story. Besides all of the evil lurking in the heart of this mass murderer was evidently a germ of decency. Some of the posts demonstrate how difficult it is for us to reconcile an act of decency with Hitler's despicable policy of genocide. We would rather see Hitler as someone completely evil and thus unlike us, almost as though he was another species entirely. A monster. Well, despite this apparent act of kindness, Hitler was still 99.9% evil, and hence very unlike most of us.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#10 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

    you need a bunch more nines. I don't think it was an act of decency, but of obligation.

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    #10.1 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:50 PM EDT
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    Well wasn't that mighty white supremist of him. Bless his little Aryan heart. Guess those few acts made up for over 6 million.

      Reply#11 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

      karen, he didn't order blacks to be killed? what are you talking about, jews etc are white. he was still sick, but use the proper terms

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      #11.1 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 1:39 PM EDT
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      Comment author avatarChristina Larrewvia Facebook

      I seriously doubt that this was done from his heart or that he did it out of any sense of decency. The Jewish man in the article was likely good at his job; and therefore, indispensable. Any jew that Hitler saved likely served a purpose that he felt no one else could serve at the time. Of course, I am speculating, but his record doesn't prove him out to be other than a selfish and insecure maniac!

      • 2 votes
      Reply#12 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 7:56 PM EDT

      You didn't read the article, did you? He lost his job in 1936.

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      #12.1 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 1:13 PM EDT
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      Why was this article Printed ?

      Is this the camel's NOSE that begins the process of making Hitler an unfortunate
      victim of the times .. .and Not a bad fellow after all . . .had just everyone submitted
      and did every evil thing he conjured up . . .he was a hero . . . a hero victim . .
      This is right up MSNBC's alley . . . .prime time . . .
      Hitler liked Babies and Kittens, too . . . . . . . . . .sauteed in butter I believe

        Reply#13 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:11 PM EDT

        Babs-----I was going to mention his Mom's Doc also. Unfortunately one or two acts of mercy do not exonerate him.

        @ whaleb8------you forgot the fava beans----lol

          #13.1 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

          STRANGE- thats jews weren't good for anything but he allowed one to care for his mother over a german doctor. WTF

            #13.2 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 1:45 PM EDT
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            OMFG! he saves one Jew out of the what 6 million slaughtered under his orders and we are to think ... aww what a great guy, see he didn't hate the Jews!....

            MSNBC you need to give your "journalists" mental evaluations!

            Yes I read the closing attempted @ss saving the "journalist" attempted at the closing of the article. It doesn't excuse the headline nor the article.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#14 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:11 PM EDT

            He was a righteous gentile? WOW! AMAZING! I like that term righteous gentile- it implies that all jews are righteous but gentiles are by default not but when they are they have to be noted as such. Nazis believed that they were the master race and they attempted to liquidate those who believe at the chosen race - no more master or chosen people --- it's disgusting really.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#15 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

            You're disgusting, George. Jealous of the Jews 'cause they're smarter and more successful than you?

            • 3 votes
            #15.1 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:15 PM EDT

            Are they successful Rachel? Or just more connected? Why are FED chairmen Jewish all the time? In a country where 2% are Jew, what are the odds???

            • 5 votes
            #15.2 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 11:14 PM EDT

            Hey Sammy...Heil! (knucklehead)

            • 2 votes
            #15.3 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

            More successful, sammy. But the Asians are pulling up to be the next group out-pacing YOU.

            • 1 vote
            #15.4 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

            The asians- yeah we send jobs to china and then let the rice-eaters come here, WTF, maybe if I go to china I could find a job.

              #15.5 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

              smarter? If they were so smart they shouldve seen this coming-they come over here to leach off of us-just like the asians- the US allows it so what can we do- Smarter. never- they just have more opportunites because of their sad background- just like the blacks- should they not be treated equal- why do they get special treatment- bull

              • 1 vote
              #15.6 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

              Jews ARE smarter than the average population. Have you noticed how it is that all the Asians have 100K salaries and seem to have PhDs? It's because all the smart ones are able to make it here. The dumb ones are still in Asia.

              Something similar happened to Jews. All they really had to survive on were their wits. So the Jews who were not exceptionally intelligent were killed off - the middle ages were really hard on Jews - if you read Ivanhoe you will be shocked at the anti-Semitism, and the author, Sir Walter Scott was actually an fairly liberal for his time. Or read Shakespeare in the original and see how Shylock is depicted.

              Once these evolutionary pressures were off, in the early 20th century, when it looked like we had thrown off the Dark Ages and were on the way to enlightenment, the intellectual advantages that Jews had paid for in blood came to the fore, and so you have prominent Jewish scientists such as Einstein, etc and other intellectuals. Of course, a few years later, it is this very prominence that allowed Hitler to use them as a scapegoat and start slaughtering them (back to the middle ages. Again.)

              After WWII, now the evolutionary pressures are off, Israeli paranoia not withstanding, they will again tend to the mean. It takes about 3 generations for the correlation between child and ancestor's IQ to become pretty much near zero, and we are almost there now.

              As far as scapegoats go, it seems we have now exchanged Jews for Muslims, who are now the new 'Jews.' The hatred is still there, it's just directed at someone else.

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              #15.7 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 2:39 PM EDT
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              The real tragedy is, that in World War One, Germany's Jews fought for the Homeland - Really fought - the number of decorations to include the Pour Le Merite (Blue Max) given to German Jewish soldiers is astounding. that coupled with the fact that Bismarck's right-hand-man was Jewish - Gerson Bleichröder - should serve as a stark reminder that no nation is immune from the horrible fate of the holocaust which happened in World War II

              • 1 vote
              Reply#16 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:35 PM EDT

              Hitler was pure evil later in life no doubt but I wonder how many people treated him with kindness and compassion during his formative years? Just like many other unstable people who snap and take out their perceived tormentors(and any innocents who get in their way) I think Hitler felt he was just getting even. His vengeance just happened to center on the Jews but is there any nationality he showed compassion towards besides Aryans? Even if you were Aryan he might invite your family to dinner, be so warm and compassionate, and the moment you left order you all hung by meat hooks. His final order was to burn all of Germany because he said, "All of the good Germans are dead already." Yes, I'm sure most people who knew him early on(not to mention the Allies reigning death and destruction down on him and his comrades in WWI) contributed their part to his evil. Should he have just kept his anger and disillusionment bottled up inside? Of course. Don't think for a second though he wasn't a product of Mankind's dark side.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#17 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:37 PM EDT

              Bet you are good with making excuses for murders & rapists too. He was a serial killer with too much power, nothing more. However, the US needs to teach their children about pre-Nazi Germany & how hitler & his group took over all freedoms of the people long before the camps. Even their draft policey, serve or we kill your whole family, government before god & family. Oh, this is already happening in the US, our great leader is promising to take call of all equally.

                #17.1 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

                Take your meds as you obviously have lost the ability to reason. Nowhere was I making an excuse for him. The fact of the matter is he is a lot like all of us. Hitler was just elected dictator and so was able to get his misguided revenge that he had been craving for who knows how long. If he were you I'm sure you would bring down the U.S..........or at least terminate this black President and his family.

                  #17.2 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 2:50 PM EDT
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                  According to MSNBC this one act of kindness makes up for the other 6 million Jews that Hitler murdered.They're insinuating that Herr Hitler isjust misunderstood. MSNBC in their attempt to humanize the monster, Hitler should understand that when you are kind to the cruel, you end up being cruel to the kind.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#19 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

                  You must not have read the article. Didn't say that at all.

                  • 8 votes
                  #19.1 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

                  Not very keen on reading are we now... Also, despite the actions, Hitler was actually human. Trying to demonize someone as a monster negates that they were human. By doing this, you ignore the fact that terrifying evil is still quite possible in humans. You also allow yourself to be blind to the possibility of such things happening again today. Genocide happens rather frequently today, perhaps not to such a large extent, but still happening. This genocide is committed by humans, not demons.

                  Finally, history must be kept accurate despite how you believe it treats individuals. It's one of the few ways we have to learn about how actions in the past led to various outcomes. It also allows us to best avoid repeating such events in the future.

                  • 4 votes
                  #19.2 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 5:58 AM EDT

                  dougjmiller,

                  Try reading the goddamned article before you post an "opinion"! Jeez! At the very least admit that you only looked at the headline so nobody expects any better from you. As your post demonstrates, doing something half-assed only makes you look like a whole ass.

                  • 4 votes
                  #19.3 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:56 AM EDT
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                  Well. I guess that makes up for everything. *eye roll*

                    Reply#20 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:13 PM EDT

                    There is so much more to this article than is being commented on. I never knew Hitler's WWI commander was Jewish or about all of the Blue Max recipients being Jewish. Thank you to all who contributed sensible and important facts and comments.

                    It is ridiculous to offer an opinion that history would view Hitler any differently because of this revelation; or that MSNBC is calling Hitler a great guy. Nothing he did that might be viewed as humane could change his legacy. All the article is about is a moment in time that few people were aware of. And allusions to Nazis and Republicans? (sigh) Of course we are all entitled to our opinion...

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#21 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:53 PM EDT

                    L,

                    Hitler fell into a populist belief that betrayal by Jewish army officers caused Germany's defeat in WWI. Of course, this argument ignored the reality that Jewish officers were, for the most part, junior officers already blocked from advancement by both religious and racial barriers. Hitler neither invented anti-Semetism or racism, he merely embraced them as a device.

                    The little information we have about the second "little corporal" of Europe is that he was gassed, paroled to recover, returned to his duty as a messenger, was shot or hit by shrapnel, and paroled to recover again. His officer, Hess, recommended him twice for the Iron Cross; both of which were awarded during WWI. While Hitler may have felt, or adopted the view, that Jewish officers betrayed Germany; he probably did have real feelings for an officer who had treated him well and awarded him for his valor. Later WWII events just demonstrate how much the monster that Hitler created grew beyond any control.

                    • 2 votes
                    #21.1 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:02 AM EDT
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                    It's kind of amazing that over 65 years after his death Hitler still makes it into the headlines once in a while.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#22 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:02 PM EDT

                    Hitler's place in history will always be set. That will never change nor should it. If one forgets actions that lead to particularly horrifying events, it's very easy to repeat such actions or allow another to repeat them.

                    • 1 vote
                    #22.1 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:04 AM EDT
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                    germany is a garbage dump and will always be vilified, even in a thousand years. they can never pay enough.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#23 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:18 PM EDT

                    Are you high?

                    • 1 vote
                    #23.1 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 3:00 AM EDT

                    and we allowed them to come to the New York habor and lie about their history and change their names. Great job US. Now we are sending jobs to china and letting that gutter rot come here, when we barely have enough jobs for americans-and everybody is bitching about a few south-americans- this was their land before we stole it from them, not the chinese-not the muslims-not the jews-the italians-the germans-shall I go on- I don't think so, think before you speak

                    • 1 vote
                    #23.2 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 2:06 PM EDT
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                    Why does msnbc want to glorify the Nazi at this time. Why should it be even news? White only pastors conference, Jew pardonned by Hitler. Does it affect Mitt Romney's election.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#24 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:32 PM EDT

                    You may want to read the article before you post on here.

                    • 1 vote
                    #24.1 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 3:01 AM EDT
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                    The Nuremberg Laws stripped German Jews of the right to be citizens of the Third Reich, but it did give jewish veterans of the first World War a steady pension for their service.

                      Reply#25 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:47 PM EDT

                      Until they were gassed and cremated.

                      • 3 votes
                      #25.1 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 12:41 AM EDT

                      Actually that would be false.

                        #25.2 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 3:01 AM EDT

                        Which one is false?

                          #25.3 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 10:33 AM EDT

                          German Jewish veterans of the First World War were gathered up with the rest of the Jewish population of Germany and shipped to the camps. When they were herded to the trains, however, many vets made a point of wearing their medals to show they were good, loyal Germans. Those medals were taken from them when they reached their destinations and they were summarily murdered along with the other Jews. Steady pensions didn't matter much to all of those hapless veterans.

                            #25.4 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 12:44 PM EDT
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                            another way to put jews in the news. they miss no attempt to remind us of the holocaust do they?

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                            Reply#26 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:54 PM EDT

                            EchoJuliet, I note in your comments that YOU talk a lot about Jews. You go TO stories about Jews or things related to Jews, and you yap and complain about Jews. YOU miss no attempt to share your "insights" and remind us about "Jews", do you. Can you say "wacko OBSESSION"? lol!!

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                            #26.1 - Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:01 AM EDT
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