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Subscribe to RSSLess than a year after Moammar Gadhafi's fall, Libyan's vote in what U.N. General Secretary Ban Ki-moon hailed as "a march toward democracy." It's the country's first democratic election in more than half a century as Libyans choose a National Congress. Lindsey Hilsu, Channel 4 Europe, reports.
TRIPOLI/BENGHAZI, Libya -- Libyans began voting in their first free national election in 60 years on Saturday, a poll designed to shake off the legacy of Moammar Gadhafi but which risks being hijacked by autonomy demands in the east and unrest in the desert south.
Voters will choose a 200-member assembly which will elect a prime minister and cabinet before laying the ground for full parliamentary elections next year under a new constitution.
Candidates with Islamic agendas dominate the field of more than 3,700 hopefuls, suggesting Libya will be the next "Arab Spring" country after Egypt and Tunisia to see religious parties secure footholds in power after last year's uprisings.
But the credibility of the vote will be wrecked if armed militia with regional or tribal loyalties discourage voters from turning out, or if disputes over the outcome degenerate into pitched battles between rival factions.
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In the oil-rich east, where there is a thriving autonomy movement, calls for a boycott and pre-election violence have cast a shadow over the vote. But in Tripoli, voters were jubilant.
Libyans flashed the "V" for victory sign as they entered the polling centers. Motorists honked their horns as they drove past to greet the voters lined outside. Others shouted "Allahu Akbar," or "God is Greater," from their car windows.
The election lines brought together Libya's women, men, youth and children accompanying their parents. There were women in black abayas, or black robes, bearded men, elderly men and women on wheelchairs or using canes to support themselves. Some voters arrived at polling centers with the Libyan red, green and black flags wrapped around their shoulders.
"Look at the lines. Everyone came of his and her own free will. I knew that day would come and Gadhafi would not be there forever," said Riyadh Al-Alagy, a 50-year-old civil servant in Tripoli. "He left us a nation with a distorted mind, a police state with no institutions. We want to start from zero," he said, as a woman came out of the polling center ululating and flashing the purple ink on one of her fingers. The ink is used to prevent multiple voting.
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An uprising in Libya ousts dictator Moammar Gadhafi.
Inside a school being used as a polling station in central Tripoli, a few dozen women lined up. Some carried the new Libyan flag on their backs or wore jewelry in its red, green and black colors. Some had tears in their eyes.
"I am a Libyan citizen in free Libya," said Mahmud Mohammed Al-Bizamti, outside the polling station.
"I came today to be able to vote in a democratic way. Today is like a wedding for us," he said.
Civil war a possibility
The greatest threat comes from the eastern region around the city of Benghazi, cradle of the NATO-backed uprising that ousted Gadhafi nearly a year ago but which complains of neglect by the interim government in Tripoli in the west.
"There is no doubt there could be a civil war between us in the east and the west," Hamed al-Hassi, a former rebel who now heads the High Military Council of Cyrenaica, the name of the eastern region, told Reuters.
"The country will be in a state of paralysis because no one in the government is listening to us," said Hassi, whose group is charged with securing the east but has fallen out with the government over representation.
On Friday, local armed groups shut off half the North African country's oil exports to press their demands for greater representation in the new national assembly. At least three major oil exporting terminals were affected.
"The strikes will continue for 48 hours if the government does not respond positively to their requests," said a note to oil companies from shipping agents.
Hundreds of demonstrators gathered in a square in central Benghazi late on Friday, saying they would boycott the vote in protest at the fact that the east had been allotted only 60 seats in the assembly compared to 102 for the west.
In the latest attack on election authorities in the east, a helicopter carrying voting material had to make an emergency landing near Benghazi on Friday after being struck by anti-aircraft fire. One person on board was killed.
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"There is no security in this country," complained Emad El-Sayih, deputy head of the High National Election Commission.
Concerns exist elsewhere. In the isolated southern area of Kufra in the Saharan desert, tribal clashes are so fierce that election observers will be unable to visit, and some question whether the vote can proceed in certain areas there.
'First things first'
In Gadhafi's hometown of Sirte, a former fishing village on the southern rim of the Mediterranean Sea, the mood ahead of the polls was restrained, with some saying they would not vote.
"They should take care of us first, look at our homes," said Abed Mohammed, a resident of District Two neighborhood which saw some of the heaviest fighting and where Gadhafi was believed to have hidden before being captured and killed.
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"We are not against elections in the future, but first things first," he said.
Yet many Libyans are eager for a first taste of democracy and will be heading enthusiastically to the polls.
While analysts say it is hard to predict the political make-up of the new assembly, parties and candidates professing an attachment to Islamic values dominate and very few are running on an exclusively secular ticket.
The Justice and Construction offshoot of Libya's Muslim Brotherhood is tipped to do well, as is al-Watan, the party of former CIA detainee and Islamist insurgent Abdel Hakim Belhadj.
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Parity rules for the new assembly mean there are many female candidates. Yet many of their campaign posters in Tripoli have been defaced, underlining the ambivalence felt by some in Libyan society about a greater female role in politics.
"Politics is a new field for men and women in Libya," said Lamia Busidra, 38, a leading candidate for the al-Wattan party in Benghazi. "The qualifications are there, women can do it, they just need the confidence in themselves to do it."
Early partial results after polls close at 8 p.m. (12 p.m. ET) on Saturday will give some guide to the make-up of the assembly but full preliminary results are not due until Monday.
Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Lybia is so socially disorganized, this election is only going to result in increased violence
I'm Just surprised that MSNBC has decided to cover the Libyan Elections at all...
Mr. Well we spent alot of time and energy getting rid of their dictator (Kadhafi) in the hopes of creating Democracy and a country we can work with. (I think the Syrian military is running things for now)
You mean that brutal dictator that we got rid of, that was camping out in New Jersey, literally a few months before the revolution began...is that the "kadhafi" you are refering too???
The World has been supporting dictators in that part of the world for a thousand years for a reason...I think we have a frying pan and fire thing, that most of the world is going to seriously regret
What I hope, but seriously doubt, is that the "Arab Spring" can or will be a Maturing Event for the Islamic Leadership of the world...and that something resembling a Real Government can emerge...but, I think it will take decades of regional bloodshed before we see it
What else could MSN report on? Another great month of job growth? Home foreclosures down again?
Well they could always just make it up like they normally do...pay some kid to throw a kitten in a well...that's always good for ratings...i'm sure someone poured McDonalds Coffee in their lap this week
Agree with you Mr. Gee, I wonder if the outcome of this vote may be similar to that of Egypt? If it is, you can bank on the fact it is a frying pan, fire thing.
It seems to me that we should soon come to realize that Democracy for medieval savages is not such a good idea. Some people just need to have a strong leader to tell them what to do and keep them under control. Their Democracies look more like tribal anarchy to me. We have allowed and encouraged these nations to be swallowed up by our mortal enemies.
This is another powder keg that had the fuse lit with the blessing and support of our current administration. Another step in the drive for world domination by radial Islam. I don't know why they don't stop beating around the bush and just go on and arm the Palestinians against Israel while they are at it. If Obama and his cronies were to suddenly announce that they were going to seek the demise of the United States, I don't know of anything they've done in the last 3 1/2 years, that I would expect to be done differently.
If hard line Islamists win, it may well be the last 'free-election', especially for women.
Well, they have been doing a pretty good job of reporting Romney's flip flops. It's a tax! It's a penalty! It's a tax! It's a tax penalty! It's not a tax! It's a tax! Ooo, nice jet ski.
It will have to be. The Arabs no longer have the excuse of blaming us for all their problems now; they have to step up and create the society they say they want.
If they fail, and I'd say it's 50/50 right now, they'll become entrenched in their third world status and we'll be forced to take more severe methods to keep their refugees from flooding our own economies. That will lead to more discontent and we'll end up bombing them repeatedly as we institute more security restrictions at home to keep them from bombing us.
Let's hope they choose the path of maturity instead of tribal fanaticism.
The Muslim brotherhood won in Egypt, they are winning in Libya, they will soon win in Syria, Iraqi is now almost totally controlled by the religious faction, Afghanistan will be returned to the Taliban as soon as we leave, democracy and ultra religious views can not exist together, however we have not yet learned that lesson.
~*It is a Great shame & a farce that the US & Nato committed themselves to such enormous amount of ^Violence supposedly to bring about democracy; when it could have been quite different.Democracy after the destruction of so many lives so much destruction of the infrastructure is so so primitiVe that any one involved in such,ought to be ashamed of their participation Thank*You MSNBC at least you are making a small effort to bring unbias Views...*~!~*
There are times when the grass really does look greener on the other side of the fence. In this instance however, it is because the grass was fertilized after they put in the fresh minefield.
I doubt that the Arabs will ever learn that mixing religion and politics can be just as deadly as mixing alcohol and gunpowder. While there is nothing wrong with the free exercise of religious beliefs on an individual level, they frequently make very poor public policy especially when they are not shared by all.
If the good guys win, do you get to take your mask off?
Way to go,Byron,keep your focus off your dismal failure Barry..
hmmmmm, let me guess- the militant islamists will soon gain power.
good ol al queda arab spring.
Okay, so you've got liberals in the east and conservatives in the west. Do what we do in the US, keep them squabbling about small social issues, while you rob them blind by passing laws they don't care about or understand, but make you and your cronies rich and powerful. Now that's how American democracy is done and we like it!
Hurray! They won their freedom so they can now give it away to some religious nuts like they did in Egypt!
There's nothing wrong with a predominately muslim country electing muslim leaders. Just like there's nothing wrong with America electing christian leaders. But care must be taken to ensure the minority's rights aren't infringed upon. Laws can be based on religious principles as long as they can be justified with secular reasoning.
Freecascadian,There is a huge difference, in Muslim countries electing a Islamic leader and America electing a Christian leader. One difference is, our constitution does not allow our leaders to push any religion on anyone. Over there they plan on enforcing Sharia law on everyone,even the few Christians they do have will now be forced to live by Muslim laws. These people they are electing all over the Middle east are nothing more than Terrorist in sheep clothing and the sad part about it is , we will now be sending them billions of dollars, which they in turn will give to Al Quada and other organizations, that sole intent in life, is to overthrow the west and enforce Islamic law on all the world.
I know, all you Liberals out there think I'm probably some kind of lunatic ,who is suffering from ,what is the name you made up for it, Islam phobia. I predict that within ten to fifteen years , there wont be a Christian left in the Middle east and the world will be a much more violent place than it is now. I guess only time will tell!!!!!!!
I hope it extends to the US too so I won't have to hear any more Christian whining.
I can't believe we let Kadhafi live after the 1988 Lockerbie Scotland plane bombing (Kadhafi admitted to it). Obama actually met with Kadhafi in Libya in 2009!!!! WHY DID WE NOT DESTROY AND TAKE OVER LIBYA IN 1988??? We could have easily done this and NATO would have supported us 100% All we need from Libya is their oil and we and NATO could have taken control of that country within a couple of weeks. Insane!!
We get very little if any oil from Lybia. Most of it went to our "friends" in Europe. Thus the push to oust him (although I don't recall him telling them he was going to cut them off). And there was no point in destroying him or the country. At the time we had no clue. It is only after the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda stirred the pot (Arab Spring) and riled up the people to rebel was there any problem in Egypt or Libya. Some people just need to be dictated to. The ME is no different.
Destroy the country and take it over? That's your "solution"? I think that's insane. We were already getting Libyan oil. They're part of OPEC.
@Talk - No Europe did not get most of OPEC oil. The top oil importers in 2011 were (1) the US (by far), (2) Japan, (3) China, (4) South Korea, and (5) India. European countries round out the top ten (Germany, France, Netherlands, Spain, Italy) but the EU is a significant fraction of the word economy so its oil consumption is in line with that. Also, I wouldn't put much stock in the notion that Al Qaeda was a factor in the Libyan revolt. That was a very home-brewed rebellion, fueled by years of oppression and tribal factionalism.
Did I say OPEC? Go back and do some research. A lot of EU oil was indeed purchased from Libya. That is why the UN was so quick to help the "rebels" get it over with. To make sure the flow didn't stop. And if you believe that home-brewed notion, welcome to the liberal sheep flock.
I stand corrected. The majority of Libyan oil was exported to Europe in 2010 - Italy was the biggest consumer, at 27% of exports, followed by France at 16%, followed by Germany and Spain at 10% each. However this is simply a function of proximity. The countries that had the highest percentage of Libyan oil as a function of total imports was Ireland (23%), Italy (22%), Austria (21%), Switzerland (18%), and France (16%). Significant, but all could make up these imports in the world market.
You previously state that the total amount of Libyan exports is small on a global basis (which is correct) and then suggest that the lack of Libyan oil was the primary motivation for the UN to intervene in the slaughter of unarmed civilians. This is incredibly cynical and unconvincing. As far as your expert opinion on the causes of the Libyan civil war, I find that without merit. I am not a liberal or a conservative. The world is not black and white, like your thinking.
You have your opinion and I respect that however, wait to see who comes to power in Libya.
You gotta admire these Middle East Dictators they don't leave the fight early and usually wind staying to the bitter end. Now those South American guys, when they are about half way over run, they're gone. Anyone got any knowledge about the South African ones?
Nothing will ever change for the good for those people because another blue blood will step into power. Greed and power will always rear its ugly head. Wait and see.
"I am a Libyan citizen in free Libya," said Mahmud Mohammed Al-Bizamti, outside the polling station. "I came today to be able to vote in a democratic way. Today is like a wedding for us," he said. Wow! free elections, democracy in the Middle East! I wonder if anyone will thank George W. Bush.
Just imagine ... if Saddam Hussein was still in power, the Arab spring would have swept him out of power by now, and we would have saved a trillion dollars and a few hundred thousand lives. And stlill have got bin Laden and al-Qaeda.
....and where do you think the Arab spring came from???? Obama's apology tour?
Byron, for one thing , Saddam would of been worse than Assad is being in Syria. he would be killing his people in the street, this WAS a leader who sprayed poison gas on his own people and killed over one hundred thousand ,men women and children. He then sent his army to the south and killed over eighty thousand of his Shiite citizens. So don't fool yourself about how evil of a man Saddam was. As far as getting Ben Laden, if we did not have our army camped next door in Afghanistan, we never would have gotten him out of Pakistan, he was being very well protected by their government.Also if we would not have been there to control the formation of the new Iraq, Iran would have taken over and put their man in power. So don't paint a rosy picture in your mind ,of how things would have been ,because you don't have a clue.
Mohamed Bouazizi
@joe-904290, I scratched my for a long time on this matter of poison gas? whole village? entire population laying in the streets? Somebody actually walking through a gassed area, taking a movie, not wearing any protective clothing? Some body actually got into Iraq when not even the UN could get any further than the guard shack? Did you see a reporter standing with a mic in front of the camera giving a report on what you're seeing? Is any place going to leave that many dead bodies laying around in the high heat for long? High Heat starts dead remains to decompose very rapidly in as little as a day. That film was all Bush Administration Properganda. The Nazies couldn't have done better themselves. That was the best fabricated lie that I have studied. I'm not surprised any one remembers the film piece but I am surprised anyone actually believed it still.
6dogs,are you serious,you really don't know about Saddam spraying his Kurdish citizens in the north with poison gas? After the first Gulf war the Shiites in the south rebelled,thinking we would come and help them, Saddam sent his army and killed over eighty thousand of them. You are obviously very young and do not know your history ,probably only know what your Liberal parents tell you. I'm sure you know how to Google , go google ,you will see that I tell the truth and yes there are pictures. That is why we had a no fly zone set up over Iraq,for over 12 years ,protecting the Kurds in the north and the @!$%#es in the south. You really should get YOUR OWN facts before you write stuff on these sites.You also should read some of the NEW Testament ,especially where Jesus says to "Love your enemies" and to forgive others and that LOVE is Gods greatest gift. Then you come back and tell me there is no difference in radical Islam and Christianity.
Another islamic state in the making, it was all for nothing. I am sure Lybia will be the recipients of foreign aid from a bankrupt USA. It's madness
Somehow the weapons are going to wind up in the hands of the bad guys. There continues to be blue on green violence, but yet we are going to reward the Afghani government by giving them money they will never pay back so they can buy our weapons and turn them around and use them on us. What is the US government thinking?
With the Muslim Brotherhood posed to take the largest portion of power in Lybia: And wtih the Brotherhood the largest power in both Egypt and Tunesia... One can easily forsee the three nations coming together in a confederacy similar to the European Union. This combined United Islamic Republic could expand to include other small countries to become the next super-power. What an interesting changing world we live in. "May you be born in interesting times."
A superpower that just wants everybody in the west DEAD.
A great reason not to make enemies with them, huh?
The way the women dress they don't look to free.
they aren't free....Libya Syria ...all the same to me...SAVAGES !
Give them a month or so Sam will have a Wal-mart set up and running. Just what do you think free looks like. I didn't know freedom had any special look or dress code.
Libya and Iraq are two perfect examples that show us what happens when we elect an intelligent and a not so intelligent American President. In Iraq, we took the idiot's brute force approach that resulted in thousands of American deaths and billions of dollars wasted. In Libya, we took an intelligent approach and quietly supported the rebels who in turn overthrew the dictator at a cost of not a single American life and very little treasure. In is important to mention that while the struggle in Libya was going on, the GOP kept on criticizing Obama for not taking a tougher stand without realizing that our involvement in these kind of situations is exactly what motivates people to fight against it. Obama was smart enough to realize that and did things quietly. Today, Obama is taking the same approach in Syria, where we are quietly and discretely supporting the rebels and the Syrian dictator is getting weaker and weaker every day. It is obvious that it is just a matter of time before Syria is also liberated. Again, while this is going on, the GOP is arguing that we should get more involved. Again, the GOP is failing to realize that doing so would only inflame the opposition to fight against us. Again, Obama is taking the right approach that will eventually remove the Syrian dictator without a single American life lost and at an insignificant monetary cost.
EffortPA, you are correct, everything is falling into place, just like "Barrack Hussein Obama" planned. The Muslim brother hood is being put into power all over the middle east. A true Islamic power house is being formed , Christians and other non Muslims are being, either killed ,or converted and Sharia law is now the law of the land. Yep , I would say Obama's plan is coming together quite nicely.
We took the side way now to allow the brotherhood to take over, another ploy of the muslim president we have. Keep getting involved in countries that will turn like iran and control the oil so we must pay more and eventually become a third rate country, this is what obamys book has said, he follows his fathers wishes in taking this country down. Michale obamy was not lying when she said this is the first time she was proud to be an AMERICAN, I say if your not happy here then go back to kenya where obamy comes from.
Yes at the request of the UN and with approval from Congress George Bush attack Iraq. He also gave America 100 straight quarters of growth and prosperity before Obama's CRA Lawsuit finally accomplished it's goal of massive financial problems. Obama on the other hand has quietly saved American lives by supplying money and arms to radical islam and helped them overthrow governments that allowed religious freedom. Now any Christians in those countries must flee or die. It is a great thing Obama has done. Overthrowing governments for radical islam. I suppose you'll be happy when all the Christians are dead and every woman must wear a burka or be stoned to death.
@Frank,100 quarters of growth? That's 25 years! It might be kind of nice under Islam, at least I be rid of Christian jerks and a whole boat load of Republican Bullsh1TTers, procrasternators, and liers.
The Brotherhood’s immediate goal is to rid the Muslim world of Western colonization and replace it with an Islamic state; a government where Sharia Law is, in al-Banna’s words, “the basis controlling the affairs of state and society.” The Brotherhood believes it is Allah’s commandment to spread this ideology throughout the world until the entire earth becomes an Islamic state.
The Brotherhood teaches that Muslims must wage jihad against the non-Muslim world, both non-violently and violently. “Jihad is an obligation from Allah on every Muslim and cannot be ignored nor evaded. Allah has ascribed great importance tojihad and has made the reward of the martyrs and fighters in His way a splendid one. Only those who have acted similarly and who have modeled themselves upon the martyrs in their performance of jihad can join them in this reward,” al-Bannastates. The context makes it very clear that he is referring to violence.
Only to you. If you were to make an illogical reading of the 2nd Amendment it would also be advocating violence against everyone.
Doesn't sound any different than Christianity to to me. Same book different title.
A Islamic country that will try and govern itself without a strong dictator is doomed to be torn apart by tribal factions. There are about 140 tribes and clans in Libya, different languages and cultures. This is the main problem of most of the Islamic world that have artificial boundaries put in place back during the colonial era.
Remind you of the contiued growth and acceptance of multiculturalism breeding in the USA right now? If it won't work there, it won't work here. Wake up people.
The strongest proof that the Brotherhood remains a supporter of violent jihad is the fact that Hamas is one of its branches. The Hamas charter states, “The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the wings of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine.” Hamas recently changed its name to reiterate its affiliation with the Brotherhood. The Brotherhood has unequivocally supported Hamas’ terrorism.
The most influential Brotherhood cleric, Sheikh Yousef al-Qaradawi, boasts that he is the “mufti of martyrdom operations.” The Brotherhood has also supported attacks on non-Muslim soldiers in Muslim lands, instructed Muslims to ally with the Taliban and, though it disagrees with Al-Qaeda’s tactics, calls Bin Laden a “holy warrior.” Members of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood were central to the attacks of September 11, 2001.
The Brotherhood follows a strategy of what it calls "gradualism" or incremental steps towards the implementation of Sharia Law. The Brotherhood uses terms like “democracy,” “freedom” and “human rights” to assuage concerns about its agenda. The group’s leadership, however, makes it clear that these terms are not used in the same way that the West uses them. Its documents call its operations in the U.S. a “civilization jihad.” The Muslim Brotherhood first established itself in the U.S. in 1963 and by 1988, privately “claimed success [in] infiltrating the United States government,” according to an FBI memo.
One document written by the American Muslim Brotherhood from 1991 states that its “work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers…”
Hamas is responding to decades of suppression. It is quite understandable why they have such a violent philosophy. You have your bones broken a few times, trust me, you would be seething too.
Our interests lie in not making any more enemies than we already have. We have a good start in Libya, we helped them get rid of Qaddafi. Let's build on that.
As somebody who immigrated form Eastern Europe into US ten years ago, and is not involved in "Western or Islamic" extreme political and religious approaches, I am having a hard time to understand political logic behind UN Security Council and its resolutions that gave green lights to numerous military operations geared towards "supporting democracies" in Middle East and Europe. As far as I can tell from reading these comments, GPO is not happy with establishing Islamic Brotherhood, fearing its religiously based orientation, and what could possibly develop from the one. Yet GPO supports military intervention is Syria, knowing that the same Islamic Brotherhood will come to power again.
I wonder, since when infringement of the human rights inside of one country, can become criteria for international military intervention? According to the UN officially adopted documents, the only reason for international intervention may occur if the country represents imminent threat for international stability and peace. How did Gaddafi threaten the international peace on his camels, outdated weapon and unreported iperit berried in desert? Asad is leading the foreign policy of self-defense, while the inner affairs of his country is solely business of Syrian citizens. They can revolt; they can put pressure for political reforms, demand referendums about important issues, demand free elections and vote for their representatives. And if the controlled and internationally monitored elections reveal that less than 50% of the full electoral body supports the change of the regime, the rebellions should comply with the regime, and insist on political reforms of the one. Every individual country may stop economic relationships and freeze diplomatic missions, if the governments do not support the regime in Syria. But International Community does not have right to impose military removal of the regime, just because. The same applies to IMF who seems to forget why it is formed: to facilitate international trade and monetary transactions. If the IMF is going to impose embargo on banking systems because some regimes does not perform up to expectations of the economically most powerful countries, it should change its name into North Alliance Financial Enforcement Agency, or something similar that would be closer to its present international role.
Soon enough we will whiteness one more military intervention that will establish religiously inspired, retrograded forces on power. Just like the ones that just overtook Libya, and other Middle East countries... How wonderful contribution to regional and international peace and stability! Soon enough UN Security Council might actually start performing its true native role, which is dealing with the real threat for international peace, and the threat might come from the countries that they just "freed" and "groomed for democracy". The vicious circle will be closed. My apologize and respect to all romantic, flowering and blossoming souls of tragically divided Islamic world, but the reality check will hardly be on their side. Just take a look at those who sits in the government of Tripoli?
And to conclude. It is hard time for UN Security Council and IMF to start doing their roles as it is once agreed internationally, and start respecting inner affairs of all countries in the world as long as they are not threatening the international peace. Other than that, the inner affairs of all countries, including Syria, should be the meter of the citizens who lives there.
Brotherhood documents list prominent Muslim-American organizations like the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), the Muslim Students Association (MSA), the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), the North American Islamic Trust and the International Institute of Islamic Thought as their fronts and allies. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) was created by the leadership of the Islamic Association for Palestine, another listed Brotherhood entity.
The Muslim Brotherhood’s vision of the world is fundamentally incompatible with Western values. It should not be treated as a non-threatening, “moderate” force.
ISNA, ICNA and the MSA seem to do pretty well melding their values with Western values; that is why we have seen so little violence from American Muslims. The biggest problem, in the US, are people like you, who are unable to give it a rest and must spout off your hatred about anyone and anything Islamic.
Hillary, please come home, we need to set up free elections here, where all parties and candidates get the exact same time on TV and radio, so people can vote based on what they actually see compared to others, instead of company paid elections,that constantly play the game of "capitalism" for themselves based on ancient old richvote policy.---Don't even start, we do not need "socialism" either, we need a well oiled country where everyone is getting what they need and pay for, not just setting the country up for the 150 million Dollar boats for the executives for our medical "companies"--And far more important the government has to stop lieyng about what happens to all that tax money --just SS money everyone has paid, and then have to beg like it is some type of well fare.--And for many that SS is collected, just so you can pay your property taxes later, even with the included taxes in your rent--Let us fix it now, and drop all the harassing!---And then many times you have to pay tax again on SS in some states--we need some new accountants in the government
--But I thought when I taught the first computer integrated circuits here, we would have that done in the seventies with everyone getting computers, but I can see it has turned mainly in to dating services, and people are still drinking so they can get in the moode anyway!!
Part of EU made those laws 50 years ago, they did not want to go back to be controlled by the castle owners like they were 300 years ago, and they ran over to the Americas, but yet here it is still that way at least in the USA America and several other 3rd world dictator countries in the Americas!!.
Please USA let us all get some big brooms and mirrors!
So let us make this November the first free election here for decades!
Now this is MSNBC good news of the week? What happened to the news of one million new illegal works given the green light by the O man to seek out work in the USA without fear of prosecution, wow what a boon for the American tax payer who is seeking work. Ten years after he leaves a company it closes down a factory that went bankrupt ten years earlier, kept a float to lesson the impact on the community evil of old Mitt. As gov he inherited double digits from our good friend at the democratic blame and point and had an up hill fight. evil is as evil does progressive as they are. Now we hear the celebration of the freedom fighters to the Islamic brotherhood founders of Al Quida now do you really think that lybia is going to be free. some one say theres ocean views in Montana to be had.
moochelle obummer would look good in an abaya
Women having to cover their heads and faces to cast their votes,....some freedom.
when half the women look like men with facial hair they must ! amen !
Oh Boy! Here we go again fellow Americans! Lets bend over and grab our ankles because we are about to get screwed by the Islamofacistnazis again! I hope this time I get kissed! Oh Lordy, Lordy! Pick me! Pick me!
George, I was thinking the same thing about the garb their religion mandates they wear. What freedom is this in the Islamic world anyway. Control and domination have such a prominent role in this world. It seems they are always looking for the next new one to control them.
...I wont keep in touch, but will check in next year, same time same station... MY $ 2.00 say UNncivil war for years...
...God Bless America... AGAIN... SOON...
MITT ROMNEY & ALLEN WEST in NOVEMBER...
Did you say Syria or Libya? by the looks of things, one in the same!
Another country of SAVAGES!
THE 45 PICTURES ON DISPLAY ...great for a travel brochure...my God I feel for the innocent !
God bless America !
Another "free election",eh?.....and the winner WILL BE...the candidate from the muzzy brotherhood.....and they said Mohammed was a prophet...
I am surprised that the fundamentalists are allowing women to vote> I hope our government knows what it is doing.
Another example of IDIOCY from this dictator we call president. Did not go to Congress for approvall, so another illegal action by this foriegn born Afriican Irish POS that taughted he was not born in the US in his own Harvard produced literature. Some how that was swept under the rug.
After reading about all the people that legal worked their way through the system on July 4, this man disgusts me. He lies and cheats. But, he is a great Orator. hitler comes to mind.
This man is issuing edicts like no tomorrow. Time for America to wake up. This man advertised he was not born in this country, switched it. now he was.
This man is a menace. He has never accomplished anything but be a black face on the liberal agenda. that's it. wWhat they leave out of the reports on friday, was the jobs LOST. Give me reports on NET jobs lost and gained.
People are losing jobs faster than jobs are created. he touts jobs created, nbot compared by the main stream media..how many were lost in the same period. 4.4 milion jobs created means squat i f you lost 10 million. There are facts, opinions and statisitics. And statistics are constantly played by BOTH parties