Thought there should be more info about the protests since it is a headline article and all.

These accusations and protests are being instigated by Obrador and his people. Obrador is a sore loser and did the same thing when he lost to Calderon six years ago. This time the vote was not even a close one, so they would have to find fraud on a massive scale to have any impact on the results. There will be an investigation into any evidence that Obrador provides just to keep things legit, but in the end nothing will come of this and Nieto will be sworn in as Mexico's next president in December.

Yes, there were many accounts in the news the last 2 days about votes being bought for telephone cards.

Haven't you been listening, Brett and others ??

Actually, it was swept out of the news very quickly. Many of those who traded their vote away found the card didn't work.

Lee??? Really? ... radical "rightists" buying votes? The liberal media swept out news of right-wing voter fraud? I'm sorry but I'm going have to call BS on all this. Next, I suppose you're also going to say the liberals and democrats in the USA are INcapable of organizing any sort of voter fraud or vote "purchases" ... you're funny.

@Kaptain

It is more like the US than you imply...only the losing side thinks that the other side's corruption is wrong

The truth is there wasn't a lot of voter fraud, but Nieto did go into poor neighborhoods and give out tacos for votes, taking names and adresses, and the adresses of family members of those who took the tacos. Mexico does have a secret ballot, but many rural areas don't understand that. He also got the church to tell their congregations that if Obrador wins they might have to shut down. Its pretty much the same tactics Calderon used to defeat Obrador.

"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

--Joseph Stalin

We provided some excellent examples in 2000 and 2004. Unverifiable electronic voting machines facilitated the process. In 2012 we're even topping that with voter suppression.

Who got the idea from whom? Hardly matters. Voting fraud is wrong, no matter who perpetrates it. It completely undermines the basic tenet of a democracy.

The same kind of protesters in Libya, Syria and Iran where called "FREEDOM FIGHTERS" So im guessing the puppet masters that control the new world order do approve of this right winger. And mr. "obama-azz" You guys should really try to make up your mind. one day he's a commie, next day a socialist and the very next day a fascist. Lett me school you boy: first of all saying someone is all three is kinda like being a tall midget. There are very big differences. But you didn't know that! did ya LMAO@U You just mad cause he killed your right wing buddy BIN LADDEN. I know that must have hurt you really bad.

STexan; you have no clue who owns the top media markets - you just interpret what you read the way you want too. You far Right and far Left people can read the same article and you both think it is slamming your ideals - and that is how it should be. Learn to be objective and open minded.

The research I've done says something like 80% of the media is owned by Jewish fat cats - their agenda could care less if you are Left or Right, as long as your anger keeps making them money.

I seem to remember that in 2008 someone named Mickey Mouse voted for Obama 84 times in just one precinct in Wisconsin! And that was just 1 of many instances of such voter fraud!

So tell me why the Democrats refuse to consider the Republican's suggestion of presenting Identification to vote?

The demonstrators, including students, leftists, anarchists and union members,

Will be the same bunch in Nov. in this country!

If Mexico is as dangerous as our media portrays them to be, then these protesters have some huge nads exposing themselves like this. I stopped protesting (in the US) after Bush-baby started shooting us with rubber and wooden bullets, and putting us in pens. If the USA won't let its citizens voices be heard, then I say let the country go where it will... but I have the advantage of being old - I won't have to deal with it very long :)

Pride & Joy; you mean like how you got 4 votes in one minute????? LMFAO!

When the Mexican people think its wrong and corrupt to buy votes, chances are it pretty dang corrupt.

But not if it is osambo buying their illegal votes here in the USSA.

george pauljohn

Ass!

The Republicans want voters to provide identification to vote, an obvious solution! But the Democrats scream that presenting IDs is 'voter surpression', lol!

If you google voter fraud you will see articles on Acorn (awarded $5 million from Obama in his first 'stimulus' joke bill) and later disbanded after Federal scutiny. You will also see the story of the New Black Panther group, another Obama ally, keeping white folks from voting in Florida in the 2008 election! Then, not so surprising, the DoJ, under Eric Holder, dropped all charges against those Black Panters after Barry was in office, lol!

Sorry folks, I don't think Mexico's protests of a fraudulent election holds a candle to the success of our very own DNC here in the USA!

Barry K; if you gave us a link to your story, then we could see, as it is we have no clue what story you are talking about. You really think we are going to go looking for your story after only one cup of coffee - I need at least four to get to your agitated state. You sure are invested in your Obama hate - got the slander name and picture going there, is your car bumper a traveling hate message too?

drainbramage..... have you ever heard of 'google'? Guess not, if you didn't know about Acorn or what the new Black Panther party did in Florida, then you wouldn't know about google either, lol.

Drink some more coffee and wake up! jeez, some people seem to post merely to see their words on the internet, just wish they would put more thought into what they post! And like most liberals, they want others to do their work (and pay their taxes), lol!

Your drug dollars at work......

Eric Holder's response to the idea of requiring Identification for voters in the USA (I added a Mexican flavor to his comment):

"IDs! We don't need no stinkin' IDs!"

...That sums up Obama's efforts to strengthen the credibility of the American voting process! Don't fix it, if it hurts your chances for reelection is the operative phrase from the Democrats!

With the radical rightists curtailing voting rights and voting access, fewer will be allowed to cast a ballot in the US

You mean your illegal alien pals, right?

Or convicted felons as well as the dead who come back to life and stuff the ballots with voter fraud, right?

Sounds like a bunch of libtard sore loserdom here.

They must have taken a look at how republicans do it......Look up ohio 2004 voter fraud Appears all ohio votes were sent to a server owned by the same people who had the WH email account that mysteriously lost them when congrss needed them. The guy who owned the IP was supenoed to testify before a grand jury and told the papers he was threatend by Rowe. Then he died in a plane crash even though he was a master pilot and had many many hours in flights. The votes were sent through his web site then returned to the precints after ??? Ohio gave Bush the election where he garnered strangely enough 16% of the black votes even though you could not find a black voter who voted for him....

You mean your illegal alien pals, right?

Or convicted felons as well as the dead who come back to life and stuff the ballots with voter fraud, right?

Sounds like a bunch of libtard sore loserdom here.

You or none of the other trolls can site any evidence that what you posted is true or there is a confirmed case of it happening anywhere in the US. On the right wing web sites this is a talking point only to be posted with a complete lack of proof. In order for any of this to happen you would need to fix it at the voter registration level and those places have Bothe parties represented. idiot

Regardless of where you live, there will always be claims of voter fraud. As for Republicans purging voters, my probblem is that the purges always seem to start a short time before the general election, when there will be no time to save the votes of people who are wrongly purged. When W was elected, at least 10,000 blacks were wrongly purged, thereby making W President through voter fraud. Then it was Florida. Now a number of states are following suit. Purging is fine, but only if there is time to reinstate those who were wrongly purged. If not, purging IS voter fraud.

Is there any Mexicans left in Mexico..

I wasn't even aware that ACORN had branches in Mexico. I'm surprised Jug-head wasn't elected.

No Mexicans Left Behind in their FAILED STATE!

At least in Mexico the fraud is more evident than in the US.

Not true. Just look at the White House.

Mark O Pierce

Regardless of where you live, there will always be claims of voter fraud. As for Republicans purging voters, my probblem is that the purges always seem to start a short time before the general election, when there will be no time to save the votes of people who are wrongly purged. When W was elected, at least 10,000 blacks were wrongly purged, thereby making W President through voter fraud. Then it was Florida. Now a number of states are following suit. Purging is fine, but only if there is time to reinstate those who were wrongly purged. If not, purging IS voter fraud.

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10,000 huh? I ever heard that, but then Huffington Post and Daily Kos aren't on my reading list. I get plenty of false information reading liberals comments here. Seems a lot of money was offered for proof of that, it was never collected.

Well @breadex of course the traditionally big corporate libtard press isn't going to pursue any investigation into this topic. That would interfere with their ideology of political-correctness and traditional practice of (patronizingly) kissing minority ass. They are overwhelmingly in favor of no voter restrictions since that would allow their Demolibtardic candidates to win elections.

And here's the reason why:

www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-foster/democrats-benefit-from-illegal-immigrants-voting_b_1418523.html

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I did find this, though...

www.nbc-2.com/story/16662854/2012/02/02/nbc2-investigates-voter-fraud

www.hutchnews.com/Columns/Kobach-column--1

I bet what happened in FL. when BUSH won happens again this election because that's the only way the GOP can possibly win come November, they are trying every dirty trick in the book and adding some never heard of ....

Sam627556, you mean Floridans not being able to vote correctly?

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How many illegals voted in Mexico?

Hey morrigan,

I've listened for years now to people like you and the fact is there just isn't any evidence to support your claims of voter fraud in either 2000 or 2004. You, or people like you, whine incessantly about voting systems that provide no verification, but have you ever considered that unless you go to a town forum and actually raise your hand and have it counted right in front of you that there is no such thing as a guarantee your vote will be counted?

Whether it's on paper, or done electronically, you have no proof your vote was counted, or counted properly. What makes this all the more stupid on your part is that you post a quote by Stalin--of all people you might not want to use Stalin as your lodestone--that it's the people counting the votes that determine the winner. Who counts your paper ballot votes? Not you. Who counts your electronic ballot votes? Not you. So, if you think that Diebold somehow concocted an outcome which voters didn't approve just remember...it wasn't Diebold doing the counting. It was as it ALWAYS is, your local elections commission, or registrar, or some other duly appointed group.

Frankly, I am tired of people like you lying about the people who do this work. And I'm tired of it because you could, if you didn't prefer to whine all the time about losing an election, volunteer to go into those offices and either count, or verify the count, or observe the count. Your local elections commission would probably love it if you'd help, at least until you began to talk about your insane beliefs.

He's able to use google to find conspiracy theories that fit his agenda. If someone posts it on the internet it must be true. Even though every independant poll in the country predicted Obama would win in 2008 clearly a black man had to commit fraud to win.

He's able to use google to find conspiracy theories that fit his agenda. If someone posts it on the internet it must be true.

Well ya know Larry-367607, if you posted it on the internet, that must make it true, too.

Even though every independant poll in the country predicted Obama would win in 2008 clearly a black man had to commit fraud to win.

Hey, the internet said so, right?

So did Larry.

lol...

Rich is WRONG! He just couldn't find evidence to show what he didn't want to see about 2000 and 2004 that is the problem. Trouble is when the issue is fully political based, there's absolutely nowhere to find out what really happened. But considerable amounts of unusual circumstances point to the GOP pulling strings they'll never admit to. Florida 2000 is racked with big voter count problems that are still unresolved because Dubya's brother had the election game rigged and knew how to cover it up very well without leaving a trace. And evidence did show that the Diebolt machines in 2004 were encoded for certain results. Some form of voter fraud or illegitimacy has been going on here for a long time. those large and in charge must dupe the American public that they're actually voting for who they think is better. Two or maybe three guys who are the only ones on the ticket, a choice narrowed down from upper tier individuals who see to it the choices being offered the American public amount to no choice at all, but only the appearance of such. It's not a conspiracy, it's just the way the process works structurally. No well meaning decent middle class person who may actually do the average working person some good can ever get into a position of becoming elected to high office in this country, yet this is the BS, "anyone's eligible to run for president" crap they sell at the ballot box.

Which means it's true.

We're waiting to see the evidence Steve.

@azz

Wisconsin would beg a different, GOP spent more than 10 times on the opponent to win with out of state funds. Guess which one is bought to win there.

Which means it's true.

Which means I have a bridge to sell you. What color would you like?

Morrigan,

I built a couple of hundred thousand of those voting machines. It's not that they're unverifiable, but rather that there's nothing that requires verification. What do you want? Digital dimpled chads?

That's called community organizing, Mick. Dems have been buying votes that way ever since Lyndon Bird instigated the Great(?) Society. Welfare. Medicaid. Food stamps. WIC. AFDC. Section eight housing. They've got a whole pantheon of something-for-nothing social programs designed to keep poor people dependent on and loyal to the democrat party. The only people who have consistently won out on the War On Poverty have been the hordes of bureacrats at HEW/HHS.

But it's ok for bush to buy votes with hate and promise of hurting people? So how much welfare did bush cut? nothing. how much food stamps did bush cut? nothing how much did he cut medicare? he added to it by not letting medicare bargin with big pharma. So you must be the party that saves us money on foolish things? This would be such a great world if republicans could think. oh and lets not forget the towns of 5,000 people that got bush 9,000 votes lol

Could be like Detroit....where there are 37k more voters on the books than there are people of voting age. Hmmmmm one city 37k votes? Most people beleive a portion of those people moved out to the burbs or died. It will be intresting to see how many vote in their new districts....then take the Union train down to their old District.......on the SEUI or UAW vans. I followed one last election as it took a full van of people (one trip) downtown making stops.......at several stores and fast food restaurants. Instead of Tacos........ they use a Quarter Pounder meal!

But it's ok for bush to buy votes with hate and promise of hurting people?

but Bush isn't president but then no one expects the left to grasp more than one concept at a time.

It's more like Alice in Wonderland every day. A liberal, the one above, hammers at Bush for not cutting social services spending despite Bush not campaigning to cut social services spending, but fails to connect the simple point that "free" money from the government moves people (at least at the margins) to vote for more "free" money. If, decades ago, the left had not sought to create extraconstitutional governmental programs in order to make people more dependent on the government, would this even be an issue? Would those being "helped" have found other ways, absent DC's benevolence (snickers, really) to make their lives better?

So george is sanguine about the government expanding its power at the expense of the people, condemning some to virtual serfdom, but is critical that a president who never said he'd cut welfare spending didn't? Our nation is in deep trouble.

Other than Obamacare which hasn't really impacted anyone yet Obama hasn't made getting money or benefits easier to get he just had millions more made poor by Bush's economic collapse dumping 5 million on unemployment, food stamp and medicaid roles. Prior to Obama becoming president Romney chided Bush for not acting quick enough to enact stimulus spending to counter the loss of 11 trillion in net worth and 400 billion a year in revenue that the collapse costs. Hard to blame Obama for having to feed the poor Bush created.

That unpopular bailout that Romney sometimes subtly acknowledges was Bush's? Obama modified it by making shareholders take a haircut and forcing $140 billion of private money to recapitalize the 19 largest banks and unfreeze the lending market. The result was the banks repaid taxpayers with interest. Under the predecessor plan, the taxpayers might still be out $700 billion.

Same story with the automakers. They were going under with the Bush bailout. Obama re-engineered it, demanded that workers take a hit and put in more cash. America now has a growing auto industry and most of the $80 billion has been returned to the treasury.

If George W. Bush will stay off the stage, maybe Romney can stick to the simple message and avoid those troublesome details.

Obama gave two of the big three Detroit auto manufacturers to his union buddies and gave everyone who had invested in stock in GM or MOPAR the finger. They would have survived under bankruptcy reorganization, but now, the unions own GM and MOPAR. He seized control of the banking system and put it under the auspices of the very people whose hair-brained fiscal policies caused the housing bubble to burst in the first place by making it illegal for banks to turn down loan applications from people who had no possible way to repay them.

Bush HAS avoided the stage. He doesn't give any interviews. He hasn't released any kind of press statement. The only time you hear his name mentioned is when the libtrolls start running out of arguments. In fact, the ONLY Bush I've heard from since 2008 is his brother, Jeb, when he was campaigning for Marco Rubio.

Obama can't get even one single Democrat to vote for his budget proposals in the Democratic-controlled Senate, not even his Brownnoser Extraodinaire, Harry Reid. Whatever mess the economy was in when he took office, he has floored the accelerator on spending, big time. He has incurred more debt in three years than Bush did in eight while running two wars. Whatever the economy was in 2008, the economy of 2012 is all Obama, Reid and Pelosi.

@MickeyD.-3181068

Record of Wisconsin show different on what you said, GOP spent 10 times more with out of states funds to win. Romney is ranking more cash each month from big donors.

I guess you must have selective memories when you say anything.

reduce workers pay, and increase the police force.

And this is the reason of widespread corruption at all levels in Mexico. The dismal salaries of the police force sometimes force the officers to take bribes just to make ends meet. Most of the time are not a big deal, such a speed ticket being "dismissed" for a small amount, etc. This is the way that people in Mexico survive.

The fact that there are no social network in place -such as unemployment or food stamps- makes it twice as hard for people. The Mexicans learn to work hard since they are children, otherwise they just don't eat. They are proud people as well. The problem really is at the higher levels, where politicians make deals with the drug cartels. However, this has been going on for decades, and only the last President was REALLY fighting drug cartels, and not taking bribes from them. That is the reason for so much killing.

The people of Mexico knows that the PRI has been dealing with drug cartels for ever, and they know how to keep them out of the public life, without the behadings and the gruesome murders.

I wonder why these Meh-kee-ko libtards aren't protesting the 30,000 lives lost in the past year due to the drug cartels.

Shows how fukked-up their priorities are.

Why aren't you?

Why aren't you?

Because I'm not Meh-kee-kan and I could care less. They can kill each other for all I care.

Why aren't you?

un movemiento de la gente se a juntados, peliando liberando los pueblos encarcedados, GOLPE ESTADO, desparecando el presidente, ES HORA DE REVOLUCION NUEVAMENTE!

VAMOS a GRITAR PA QUE VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

-immortal teq

I wonder why these Meh-kee-ko libtards aren't protesting the 30,000 lives lost in the past year due to the drug cartels.

Shows how fukked-up their priorities are.

Shows how observant you are, they have been holding protests for over a year. It is the belief of most of the people that the Mexican Government 's strategy for dealing with the cartels is not working. And the collateral damage has been too high. But that doesn't support your bigotted biased belief system, so I am sure you were blind to that.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/3841/new-nonviolent-movement-in-mexico-fights-against-drug-cartel-violence-and-government-corruption

http://www.policymic.com/articles/3841/new-nonviolent-movement-in-mexico-fights-against-drug-cartel-violence-and-government-corruption

Capitan:

Lopez Obrador is contesting the results because all of us Mexicans (whether we support him and his party or not) know there was a fraud.
The only elections that have been relatively clean were the ones held in 2000 when Vicente Fox won.
Before this last presidential election authorities found duplicated voting ballots, 1 candidate for the PRD party was murdered, one of Calderon's family members owns the company hired to do the counting of votes, on election day one of PRI's representatives was caught giving money to people before casting their vote, so she fled in her car and killed 2 persons while doing so.
Mexicans were urged to take photos of the results published in their district to compare it to the IFE's results, guess what: thousands of votes for AMLO were shaved off when entering the results in the system.
I could keep writing for hours about all the irregularities in this last election, so yes, we want a recount. I think that's the least they owe the people!

BLITZER: I know you stand by the health care reform you passed, you got enacted when you were the governor of Massachusetts, and you differentiate between who what you did in Massachusetts as opposed to what President Obama did on a national scale. But some other news organizations have done some research, and I'll give you a chance to respond to this.

They have taken a look at your book, the book entitled "No Apology," the hard-cover version, in that book you this, you wrote, "It's portable, affordable health insurance -- something people have been talking about for decades," referring to your plan. "We can accomplish the same thing for everyone in the country, and it can be done without letting government take over health care."

Now in the paperback, more recent version, it was changed to say, "It's portable, affordable health insurance -- something people have been talking about for decades. And it was done without government taking over health care." The line, "we can accomplish the same thing for everyone in the country," was taken out.

Romney just say's what he thinks people want to hear not what he believes.

And he says it with a phony, Reptilian smile that totally creeps me out.

don't kid yourself... i'm sure your book sucks

@sid harth, it wouldn't bother me the least if you were to pack up your bags and leave. I don't care where to just leave. Just remember you do have a freedom of the press by Law, it doesn't mean in any sence of the word that you can get away with it. If it is not me it will be someone else that you cross trails with that will drown you in your own bucket of @!$%#. I really don't care if your just a smart ass teenager or collage student just trying to get something going. You will find out as time goes by there are lots of us who are really good at ending things. Don't bite off more than you can chew.

By the way if I run into your Daddy I will bitch slap his ass right off the bar stool. He should have taught you better.

Sounds like 6 dogs needs a royal ass whoopin for talkin' $#!T with no backup. C'mon over here and we'll see who's gonna' be endin' what for whom! That's hardly a threat, it's a promise!

less work they have to do.

protesting is much easier than work

It's because they don't work and think they deserve what working people have, but for free.

Trouble is there's no facts or statistics to show people on the left protest any more than those on the right or that per capita they don't work any more than those on the right don't work as well. Clinging to media driven images is a losing card to play.

It's because they don't work and think they deserve what working people have, but for free.

You know that from experience? I am a left leaning independent. I work my tail off everday, at one point I was working two jobs 7 days a week 365 days a year. Before you speak for others, look at yourself.

Both, think about this logically. Voter ID will prevent only ONE type of fraud, and that is impersonation. Impersonation has never been a real problem at the polls. People who study this sort of thing will tell you that the real place that's open to voter fraud is with the absentee ballots, and voter ID will do NOTHING to prevent that. So what it comes down to is this: Voter ID is simply the Republicans (does even ONE Democrat support it?) trying to suppressing voters' rights. Very simple.

bobber

I have been voting both in the polls and absentee balloting (not at the same time) since the 1980s. Everytime that I have voted, I had to show some form of ID. Wether this was a driver's licence or an ID card, I had to show it. It is not that hard to get either just go down to the DMV and pay the fee and have either a birth cert or other forms that you are who you are. The only reason that youy are screaming that Republicans are trying to disenfranchise voters is that you don't want the proof to surface that all of America already knows..... Dems are trying to stuff the ballot boxes. In the words of Tammery Hall "Vote Early, Vote Often"

@both parties, that depends what state your in. Enjoy your beer.

I live in California (hopefully, not for long) and I've never once had to show ID, although I think it ought to be mandatory. I have been a pollster who watched blatant voter fraud, by Mexicans. They came into our precinct, lead by a young women, none but the young women could speak English and asked to vote provisionally, which by law we must allow, after they tried to claim they lived in the area but were not on our rolls. We always set those ballots aside.

I don't know for sure what happened to those ballots, but I hope they got thrown out by the guy who ran our precinct.

Voter fraud is blatant and rampant in this country, not surprisingly by 'Hispanics' and their 'supporters'...

You're right in what you observe. PRI used to do some good things for the people and country 60, 70 years ago. But now they're a self-perpetuating gang of sorts. Maybe, maybe they'll actually be able to wheel and deal and improve Mexico's situation. I'm not holding my breath though.

They understand the free give a ways, like food stamps, section 8 housing, free cell phones, 99 weeks of unemployment, free health care , cash for clunkers ect, ect , ect. They are the same as the part of the populace that the socalist progressivies put on buses from the inner city and gave cigaretts to go vote.

The tax concessions to the companies in the US is so they will expand and create more jobs or will go to a particular state. The state then benifits from increase state taxes! If the feds can entice a company to set up in the US or stay in the US (since we have the highest corporate taxes in the world) then let them do it. Believe me Mexico does the same!!

It is not the companies that create the poverty , they are the ones that create the jobs (even if you do not think they create enough) without them there are no jobs, no stock market, no taxes on property, payrolls, state, local and federal!!

Stop repeating the Obama talking lies, stop listing to the anti american left, the socalist we all see how that has turned out in Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and the UK!

The problem is that Mexican constitution forbids this practice and puts limits to what the candidates can spend during their campaign (otherwise their candidacy can be cancelled).
This guy supposedly stayed within the limits, but once you start adding up all the "gifts" he gave to the people, publicity, etc you can see how that's just not true.

Good for you! Now we know you're a moron.

Really quick with the name calling jerk-off. You must be one of Hillary's LIBERAL ARMY or one of the greedy right wing @!$%# heads. Azz hole

@mountainbike

Tetrapoda never has a nice thing to say, it's always name calling with this guy.

But I do agree with you, we need to clean out congress, expecially the oldies like Harry Reid and Polosi, who do business as usual. And, I was democrat, but no long affiliate with any party. I got sick of party first and then country (the American people) second.

I see you're quitters, I haven't quit maybe I should. No, I guess it's the one person can make a difference thing stuck in my head.