Did the Afghan pres protest the killing of innocent civilians? Did the Pakistani stop Taliban traffic in protest of the killing of innocent civilians? I guess they don't care about innocent lives being taken by islamist murderers.

What is wrong with these people?

Isn't religion wonderful? It has enriched so many lives. From Jonestown to 9/11 to the abortion clinic bombings and doctor murders here in the United States.

From Iran to Afghanistan, from Israel to Oral Roberts University, religion is social poison. It has brought oppression, misery, and murder to so many. I believe Thomas Jefferson said it best:

"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites."

sandtrich:

You are one miserable individual. Your perspective is poisoned in a way that would probably qualify for psychiatric assitamce. NO...our drones would not have gotten them; Obama has no cause for this one. And prior to our "occupation" was 9/11 and the "occupation" is a muddled outcome agreed to by both sides of the political isle. Now I don't disagree with you about trying to bring the troops home at all!!! But your skewed reasoning which persistently blames the U.S. for the outcomes in which the U.S. had no direct involvement is insulting to those with only a modicum of intelligence and above. By all means, say what you feel but do it in an intelligent manner; not like a troll. Take your cause to the President of this country; at least he can make a difference.

sandtrich, I too believe the troops should be brought home but before we went there the Taliban were killing people selectively for things that to us are stupid. Women and children were abused while the Taliban ruled with an iron fist.

With that being said, yes bring the troops home because there is nothing we Americans can do to change what is accepted by their religion and anything we do will only make them hate us more.

@pullmyfinger......I know what you're getting at. According to the article the person targeted was a politician who are the enemy of the Taliban. It seems to be accepted by the Muslims for the Taliban to kill each other even at weddings but it's not alright for an American to kill one of them even in battle. What can you say? They act like Barbarians in a civilized world and the country is full of them.

Darthfrodo ... "What's wrong with these people?" ... You mean other than Islam and basic everyday savagery?

Sandtrich ... "If the suicide bomber didn't get them our drones would. Prior to our 11 year occupation they had no suicide bombers, yet we pose as liberators" ... Whose fault was it before the US and Israel even existed? Muslims have a 1,400 year history of blood lust savagery. And, you're telling us that no suicide bombers killed Russians? And, if it's all our fault, why do they kill each other? Your logic simply doesn't work.

Well I will say that when islamists blow themselves up it may be the only way they can get their head out of their azz.

A religion of peace? Check out this video of islamists in Dearborn Michigan throwing rocks and bottles filled with urine at Christians peacefully carrying signs. Notice who the violent ones are? This is happening in the very country who gave these immigrants refuge! The virus known as islam is spreading while Americans are not paying attention. When there is a protest (which this was not on the part of the Christians) I may disagree with people who have an opposing idea, but I will defend their right to have and voice their opinion. Freedom of speech and peaceful protest is one of the benefits of living in a Free Country, and many people have died so we may have that freedom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzVdOtF2g-U&feature=related

A religion of peace? Check out this video of islamists in Dearborn Michigan throwing rocks and bottles filled with urine at Christians peacefully carrying signs. Notice who the violent ones are?

More importantly is who the Dearborn police wanted to arrest...it wasn't the rock and bottle throwing Muslims...It was the peaceful Christians....

Do religious madness have any limits?

Here Islam is establishing new records.

Followers of Islamic cult, especially Sunni Saudi inspired Islamic radicals and militants (al-Qaida, Taliban, Salaffi, Wahhabi, MB and other label ones), are fast marching backwards to their seventh century desert tribal days of rapings, lootings, killings and genocides of non-Muslims and killing each other as in Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan and other places.

Are they not Islamic religious Nazis?

Prior to our 11 year occupation they had no suicide bombers,

100% untrue. No more need be said.

these afghan people are Nuts. W E D O N O T B E L O N G T H E R E.........................

More importantly why do we allow them to immigrate to our country...they don't belong here....

Ask the native Americans if we "belong here".

As for suicide bombing, it's a tactic not religion specific. It's political that these bombings are happening more than anything. U.S. forces occupying their country has only exacerbated the problem.

Imagine if a foreign country with a different culture was occupying your town. Regardless of the reason for them being there, many people would resist and resort to guerrilla tactics. They are simply doing the same as we would if the situation were reversed.

What's an Afghan wedding without a suicide bomber. Let them kill each other, who cares. Bunch of heathens anyhow.

Imagine if a foreign country with a different culture was occupying your town. Regardless of the reason for them being there, many people would resist and resort to guerrilla tactics

We wouldn't be attacking our own people...

A suicide bomber blew himself up at a wedding reception in northern Afghanistan on Saturday, killing an influential politician and at least 21 other people, police said. At least 40 people were injured.

An influential politician.. aka political target. The U.S. has been setting up puppet leaders that many despise. I'm not condoning the activity just being realistic.

So again, if an occupying force came to your town and promoted individuals as leaders, or certain politicians collaborated with the occupiers, don't you think there would be some animosity?

"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity

I noticed you didn't mention Islam...are you Muslim or ISLAMIC or are you just afraid to mention Muslims or ISLAM?

So again, if an occupying force came to your town and promoted individuals as leaders, or certain politicians collaborated with the occupiers, don't you think there would be some animosity?

Quit talking about Obama....

I nolonger care what they do to each other. Let Afghanistan handle the problems of Afghanistan we have enough problems here at home.

Weddings and funerals the favorite soft targets for these cowards and what do these acts of barbarism accomplish....... absolutely nothing. WE must get our people out of this third world pit of religious hatred ASAP!!!!

Sarcaticus----

9-11? The attackers were from Saudi Arabia, not Iraq or Afghanistan. We've been at war for 11 years and itching to tangle with Iran, North Korea--we're even meddling in Africa. .

Regarding the death toll caused by the US----Iraq, 60,000 innocent civilians. We wouldn't even know that number if not for wikileaks tapping the Pentagon's files. How many in Afghanistan? The number is "not available" from the DoD. How much is enough? How many more US service members have to give up their lives in the name of failing attempts aimed toward global domination.

I'd gladly like to see you head over with an M-16 and get this over. I did my service in another failed war era--Vietnam.

sandtrich:

Prior service here, regular army, six years 77-83, "peace time" in Korea, Spec-5, MOS 67U, Honorable DC. If what you say is true, you had a rough haul, sure sounds like you may possibly remain very angry about it. From my perspective, "Americans" are not the only factor to these problems. Your posts do not give regard to the other factors. America may not be squeaky clean by any stretch, but you're not giving due regard to others' responsibility in these matters.

Regards.

What do you expect? The muslim cult was concocted by a murdering thief. Read up on the guy. Great con man.

The Qur'an teaches them to be violent...

The Qur'an doesn't teach violent.The saudi brand of islam does.After they finish with shia's,they come after us.

PEACEKEEPER 911--- Yes the Quran does teach violence, try reading it before you make idiotic statements like this one.

Islam is an invented cult like Pullmyfinger 13 states- It was invented by a thief who was no more a prophet than my pet pig, only my pig smells a lot better than the pedophile who pulled Islam out of his ass.

The Quran teaches and calls for murder and nothing any idoiot Muslim can say will repudiate this FACT.

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with
nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with
commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be
hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called
'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join
the slaughter.

Unlike nearly all of the Old
Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly
open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of
the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah,
and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

Most of today's Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy
book's many calls to violence according to what their own moral preconceptions
find justificable. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments
that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny.
Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people,
but bad ideology.

Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate
or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued
until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed.
Muhammad's own martial legacy - and that of his companions - along with the
remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood
and tears across world history.

Pulsar

Thank-you for you thoughtful analysis of islam. Its the sorry truth.

If killing a family celebrating a wedding is "glorious victory" you need to get a life. No recognized religion accepts that as a good thing. You need therapy.

I'm pretty sure (or hoping) it was sarcasm.

Nina, Islam recognizes it ... no matter how much Muslims lie that it doesn't. Wake up, Nina. It was sarcasm, cretins, unless WA is a Muslim.

Nina...Islam glorifies the taking of lives...you should start reading about Islam, here are a few

Recommended Books: Jihad

Willful Blindness by Andrew C. McCarthy

America Alone by Mark Steyn

They Must Be Stopped by Brigitte Gabriel

Jihad Incorporated: A Guide to Militant Islam in the US by Steven Emerson

Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel, and the War on Terror by Nonie Darwish

Understanding Jihad by David Cook

Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington by Paul Sperry

Future Jihad: Terrorist Strategies Against America by Walid Phares

The Losing Battle with Islam by David Selbourne

Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America by Brigitte Gabriel

Defeating Jihad: How the War on Terrorism Can Be Won — in Spite of Ourselves by Serge Trifkovic

American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us by Steven Emerson

Jihad in the West: Muslim Conquests from the 7th to the 21st Centuries by Paul Fregosi

Militant Islam Reaches America by Daniel Pipes

Recommended Books: Dhimmitude

The Dhimmi: Jews & Christians Under Islam by Bat Ye’or

Londonistan by Melanie Phillips

While Europe Slept by Bruce Bawer

The Force of Reason by Oriana Fallaci

The Rage and the Pride by Oriana Fallaci

Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis by Bat Ye’or

Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide by Bat Ye’or

The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude by Bat Ye’or

Recommended Books: Muhammad and Islam

Understanding Muhammad by Ali Sina

Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Sharia Law by Nonie Darwish

Infidel by Ayaan Hirsi Ali

The Origins of the Koran: Classic Essays on Islam’s Holy Book edited by Ibn Warraq

The Quest for the Historical Muhammad edited by Ibn Warraq

Religion of Peace?: Islam’s War Against the World by Gregory M. Davis

The Sword of the Prophet: History, Theology, Impact on the World by Serge Trifkovic

Why I Am Not a Muslim by Ibn Warraq

What the Koran Really Says: Language, Text, and Commentary edited by Ibn Warraq

Leaving Islam: Apostates Speak Out edited by Ibn Warraq

The Early Development of Mohammedanism by David S. Margoliouth

Mohammed and the Rise of Islam by David S. Margoliouth

Will they get 72 virgins as they have not killed enough?

I am wondering how these can happen despite 11 years NATO reconstruction, surges, drone attacks and so on and with a great ally like Pakistan?

And here are a couple of websites. The first one has a column on the right with continuous news updates that changes faster than the weather.

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

http://barenakedislam.com/

It must have been a bang-up ceremony.

Well trust me the Marines are guarding heavens gates and I can guarantee there are no virgins. Semper Fi

Wait a minute!

Now Afghanistan is a major non NATO ally like Pakistan!

Are not some too dumb not to understand what is going on?

Jonathan, our govenment would make Satan an ally for the right money & vote.

War mongrals need to keep the wars going to continue to fill the coffers with tax payers money, this is the main reason why we are still in the Middle East. Selling to both sides fill those coffers faster.

Always an ignorant Texan in the bunch...

Suicide bombing is a tactic not religion specific. It's political that these bombings are happening more than anything. U.S. forces occupying their country has only exacerbated the problem.

Imagine if a foreign country with a different culture was occupying your town. Regardless of the reason for them being there, many people would resist and resort to guerrilla tactics. They are simply doing the same as we would if the situation were reversed.

It's political that these bombings are happening more than anything. U.S. forces occupying their country has only exacerbated the problem.

The U.S. has left IRAQ and the suicide bombings continue to be used by the Muslims....Heck , Muslims continue to suicide bombings in many countries to kill rivals and opponents....

btw, I haven't seen any Christian, Buddist, Hindu, Copt, or any other religion using suicide bombers....clearly in todays world suicide bombings appear to be religion specific...specifically ISLAMIC...

Sorry, but suicide bombing has been made religion specific by the muslims. It has been the weapon of choice to bring death and destruction and in nearly all cases against innocents,usually women and children. In WWII there were many, many suicide attacks by the Japanese, although both the attackers and the victims were military. In that same event during the time Germany and Italy (The Axis) occupied France, Russia, Poland, Netherlands, et, al. none of the civilians of those occupied countries blew themselves up along with other civilians. What the muslims have done is demonstrated to the world the cowardly killing glorified in the koran and by the hate filled imam preachers of this cruel, backward, illiterate culture disguised as a religion. And, lastly they have bastardized the word "martyr". All definitions of this are "someone who dies rather than renounce their beliefs, or whom suffers that fate at the hands of another". The muslims have changed the term "martyr" to make aggressive killing a badge of honor and eternal happiness. All muslim suicide bombers are now referred to by their own as martyr's, when in fact they are nothing but ignorant, cowardly killers. And the muslim believers continue to shower the parents and family of a suicide bomber with gifts, money, and affection. A truly sick, demented religion and worst of silently propped up and approved by the " peaceful, loving, American and European muslims ", all of whom do nothing, not a single action to stop terrorism.

We triggered a civil war in Iraq. Different factions, that happen to be Muslim, are killing each other. Iranian influence is stirring up unrest as well.

Before the Iraq invasion, no Iraqi had ever killed an American out of anger. And Saddam kept the peace albeit through heavy handed tactics.

Before the Iraq invasion, no Iraqi had ever killed an American out of anger. And Saddam kept the peace albeit through heavy handed tactics.

Before the IRAQ Invasion of 1991 Saddam certainly helped terrorists who did kill
Americans, Jews, and others...

Abu Nidal. While enjoying safe haven in Iraq, the ANO (Abu Nidal Organization) conducted a number of terrorist attacks on Jewish and Israel targets in the 1970s and 1980s, including murders at synagogues and attacks on El Al airline passengers in Turkey, Austria, Belgium, and Italy, and the hijacking of a Pan Am airliner (Pan Am 73) in Karachi, in which 22 people (2 Americans) were murdered. ANO also attacked PLO representatives in Europe, murdered Jordanian diplomats, and attempted to assassinate Israel's ambassador in London. (This attack became the cause celebre for Israel's invasion of Lebanon in 1982.) When ANO leader Sabri al-Banna refused to conduct operations against the Syrian regime ordered by Iraq, he was cast out of the country, only to later be allowed back. He died in August 2002 in Baghdad from 4 gunshot wounds to the head, a suicide according to Iraqi security officials. I assume Saddam had decided to remove evidence of his links to one of the most notorious of international terrorists at a time when the United States was increasing pressure on him to reveal his WMD programs and was accusing him of sponsoring al-Qaida.
Abu Abbas. Palestinian terrorist Mahmud Abbas, known as Abu Abbas, and his organization, the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), enjoyed safe haven and support in Saddam's Iraq. Abu Abbas was responsible for the October 1985 hijacking of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro and the murder of Leon Klinghoffer, an elderly American confined to a wheelchair. In October 2000, following the outbreak of Israeli-Palestinian fighting, Abu Abbas announced from Baghdad that the PLF would resume attacks on Israel.
Others: In the 1970s Saddam aided Palestinian radical factions that conducted terrorist operations on Israeli, Jewish, Western, and moderate Arab targets. In the 1980s, he sheltered the Kurdish anti-Turkish terrorist group, the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK) at the same time he allowed Ankara hot pursuit of PKK terrorists across its border. In the 1990s, he provided safe haven and supported attacks by the leftist anti-Iranian Mujahideen-e Khalq on targets inside Iran, including rocket attacks on government office buildings in Tehran.

So I'm ready to strap on a ton of dynamite and go over there and give them what for. Who's with me?

You would accomplish more by educating your friends and neighbors about the ills of Islam and by campaigning your government to ban Muslim immigration...

Ah...No. Jesus said "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven"

Jesus sounds like an occupier!

Jesus had no army and never occupied any land by force...

At least Jesus made water into wine at weddings not blow up the Bride and Groom.

I would say that all us "idiots" are slamming the US for being in Afghanistan FAR TOO LONG, as we've been unable to effectively suppress the Taliban and make the country safe from them. Any idiot can determine that.

We see what is going on around the world and no one wants to believe it can happen here. WELL, it already has happened. 9/11... Super Mosques popping up all over America. Despite such difficulties, a comprehensive survey of American mosque leaders released Wednesday reveals that the number of mosques in the country has grown tremendously, with more than 900 new centers being established since 2000. Another finding from the survey reveals that compared to the turn of the millennium, fewer Muslims see America as "hostile" to Islam today. Islam and Sharia Law soon to follow. Does anyone think our Muslim President is going to protect us? VOTE in November and vote American not socialism.

And by your reasoning Mitt the Taco Bender is going to protect you ???

Ha Ha Ha oh wait he will if you are RICH !!!

Great!

Saudis, Paki and UAE had a hand in 9/11.

Probably Bush understood wrongly and thought Iraq was Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan was Pakistan.

Sir: who are idiots?

News Flash: Bin Ladin killed in Pakistan over a year ago. Time to get out, or at least not have any US military weddings.

News Flash: Bin Ladin killed in Pakistan over a year ago. Time to get out, or at least not have any US military weddings.

yes and the Pakistan government is still mad that we caught them shelterting and protecting Osama....

They don't get it because they have the poisonous meme of Islam in their brains. It'll be happening here before you know it. If we don't get clear minded about the threat of Islam, these bombings will be on your street, killing your family and friends. It's coming and only because we're stupid and have become sheep and girly boys.

We're there to prevent them from having a safe haven from which to plot attacks on us, like 9/11. We are losing American soldiers (and Marines) there to protect American civilians here, including women and children. And it is not just the U.S. It is NATO. This is not a unilateral action.

We can't just sit here and let them bring the carnage to us.

We can't just sit here and let them bring the carnage to us

According to Obama..."Yes we can"...Obama has imposed such strict rule of engagement upon the military that it is virtually impossible to fight to win...

No one needs mistaken bomb runs, which were happening too often. Actually what the current pres. did was to hugely increase drone strikes, sir, and boost troop strength by 30K: the tightened rules of engagement were needed to reduce mass killings of civilians from errant bombs, which the military itself is the first to acknowledge are totally counterproductive. And Obama got the guy that W's boobs could not be bothered collaring, thank you (it was Rummy and Gen Franks who nixed sending in enough troops to seal up Tora Bora w.o. relying on corrupt local warlords, who let Osama through). In the current admin, Obama over-ruled the brass and took the risk of sending our guys in to shoot.

I say, stay until all the Talibs are martyrs, so they cannot cut off any more girl's noses or destroy any thousand-year old statues. Next stop, Islamabad.

We've been in Korea over fifty years and we are the only thing that keeps them apart. It is a divided nation.

Yes..and South Korea where the people are protected by us and who remain a valuable ally is prosperous while North Korea's people are starving because their government spends all its resources on weapons the military...btw...if the U.S. wasn't giving free food to the North Koreans...their people would surely be in worst shape....

They're covered by taxidermy insurance. Sometimes their heads are left lying in the street, ready for mounting on the wall.

The nicest thing about a suicide bomber is that they can only do it once.

The nicest thing about a suicide bomber is that they can only do it once.

The bad news is that Islamic suicide bombers are a renewable resource that will be available for a long time...

Sadly, you're correct. My post was only meant to be a bit of sarcasm.

there killing in irag worst then during the war.

That should come as a surprise to no one.

Bush may have started it, but Obama has carried it on and has increased it...

Afghans, while they are mooslims are not arabs.

Ahhh...the religion of peace sorting things out for itself...a divine workaround.

Steve, they're going to celebrate, if only in silence, and let it feed their sense of arrogance, entitlement and self-righteousness. It's all jihad to them. They hate each other, us and the rest of the world.

Correct. Too many centuries of Koran-urged 1st cousin marrying.

Suicide bomber kills at least 22 at Afghan wedding, including prominent politician

Did we read the same article? Where do you see that the U.S. was involved in this?

no it doesn't...

And yet, you have seen the "good side of religion", have you? It's there, but you don't see it, you have not looked for it nor does what is good get reported, much. Everyday, everywhere people doing good "in the name of religion" (and for other reasons) but the only thing you know from reading reports at MSN is the horror of mankind against itself. Your intellectual diet is skewed; just take a quick look at your neighborhood...you will see it all around but me thinks you just want to complain.

P.S. Wow! You changed you comment before I finished my own. Well, regard it for what it's worth.

Good side of religion, my ass. There is none.

When it comes to charity or helping the poor, there is always a catch with those people. For example, the church of Christ here in my town serves food to the poor on Monday nights, but only after they have been forced to endure a half hour sermon, prayer to a deity, and mandatory name tags for the beggars before any food is served. Where is the dignity in all of that? Christians claim to be all about about selfless charity but their actions speak other motives.

Christians seem incapable of giving without some sort of personal recognition for doing so. I think that is why most of them are so against our nation's social safety nets, like food stamps and medicaid. They get no personal satisfaction or recognition from their tax money going to aid the poor, so they are against it. I believe that is the very reason why there is such a right-wing push to end such programs for the poor in favor of forcing people to turn to religious organizations for help. It certainly is not about the money. Those people give 10 percent of all their earnings to organizations headed by a deity that will order a parent to murder an innocent child, or forbid medical care to a child, as a test of loyalty. It is sick and those who follow such religions are even sicker.

The power of religion lies in the power of fear; fear of death, fear of the unknown, fear of people who are different, fear of God, and the fear that a lifetime of belief may in fact be wrong.

So true!

onemanvolt:

You are right on when it comes to "charity with a catch". My father walked out on my mother and left her to feed, clothe and house five kids. When she went to our church (where my parents have given - pardon the pun - religiously of funds that they could ill afford) to ask for some financial assistance to pay the electric and water bill the response was, "We don't do that."

Additionally, my father looked to annull a twenty-seven year marriage (meaning his three children would be "bastards" - four of us were adopted) because of the possibility that he MAY someday want to get remarried in the church, he was told all he needed to do was to get us to sign letters DRAWN UP BY THE CHURCH.

Needless to say, that was the last day we ever stepped foot in a Catholic Church. Funny how these religions never are short on funds to build megachurches but give a pittance (usually with media fanfare) when they try to do something "for the community." TRUE CHARITY AND GOODNESS ARE ANONYMOUS.

Actually, I have served hundreds of children and families. Yes, I share my faith and beliefs which are my reason for doing it in the first place. How about you?