Syria acknowledges it has chemical weapons, will use them if attacked

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A Free Syrian Army soldier rips a portrait of President Bashar Assad at the Bab Al-Salam border crossing to Turkey on Sunday.

Updated 11:05 a.m. ET: The Syrian government threatened Monday to use its chemical and biological weapons in the event the country faced foreign intervention, marking the first time Bashar Assad’s regime has acknowledged it possesses weapons of mass destruction.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi stressed, however, that Damascus would not use its unconventional arms against its own citizens. The announcement comes as Syria faces international isolation, a tenacious rebellion that has left at least 19,000 people dead and threats by Israel to attack to prevent such weapons from falling into rebel hands.

Assad's forces have launched fierce counter-offensives, reflecting his determination to hold on to power even at great cost and he has dismissed an Arab offer to grant him a safe exit in return for a swift step down.

"Any chemical or bacterial weapons will never be used ... during the crisis in Syria regardless of the developments," Makdissi, speaking in English, said.

"These weapons are stored and secured by Syrian military forces and under its direct supervision and will never be used unless Syria faces external aggression,” he added.

A first? Helicopter gunships bombard Syrian capital

Desperate regime?
Damascus has not signed a 1992 international convention that bans the use, production or stockpiling of chemical weapons, but officials in the past have denied that it had any stockpiles.

As violence escalates in Syria, insurgents have said they fear Assad's forces will resort to non-conventional weapons as they seek to claw back rebel gains across the country.

Government troops launched an offensive against opposition forces in Syria days after rebels killed some of President Assad's top deputies. NBC's Lester Holt reports.

Syria's decision to reveal the long suspected existence of its chemical weapons suggests a desperate regime deeply shaken by an increasingly bold revolt that has scored a string of successes in the past week, including a stunning bomb attack that killed four high-level security officials, the capture of several border crossings and sustained offensives on the regime strongholds of the capital Damascus and the northern city of Aleppo, the country’s most populous city.

Syria is believed to have nerve agents as well as mustard gas, Scud missiles capable of delivering these lethal chemicals and a variety of advanced conventional arms, including anti-tank rockets and late-model portable anti-aircraft missiles.

A senior U.S. intelligence official told The Associated Press on Friday the Syrians have moved chemical weapons material from the country's north, where the fighting was fiercest, apparently to both secure it, and to consolidate it, which U.S. officials considered a responsible step.

But there has also been a rise in activity at the installations, so the U.S. intelligence community is intensifying its monitoring efforts to track the weapons and try to figure out whether the Syrians are trying to use them, the official told the AP on condition of anonymity to discuss the still-evolving investigation.

NYT: Both sides claim progress as Syrian violence continues

Syria's uprising began in March 2011 when the government violently tried to quash protests calling for political reform. As dissent spread and the death toll rose, scores of rebel groups formed to fight government troops, and the conflict evolved into a civil war.

Threat from Israel
Western countries and Israel have also expressed fears that chemical weapons could fall into the hands of militant groups as Assad's authority erodes.

On Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he feared that chaos following Assad's fall could allow Hezbollah, which seeks Israel's destruction, to access Syria's chemical arsenal.

Netanyahu told Fox News Sunday that "this is something we'll have to act to stop if the need arises."

No evidence has emerged of Hezbollah involvement in Syria's unrest.

Two more Syrian generals flee into Turkey

Defying Arab foreign ministers who on Sunday offered Assad a "safe exit" if he stepped down swiftly, the Syrian leader has waged a counter-attack in the capital to defeat rebels district by district.

Arab League ministers meeting in Doha urged the opposition and the rebel Free Syrian Army to form a transitional government, Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani told a news conference in Doha.

Makdissi condemned calls for Assad to step down during a meeting of Arab foreign ministers in Qatar over the weekend, calling it a "flagrant intervention" in Syria's internal affairs.

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Fighting in Aleppo
On Monday, the army shelled rebel forces in Aleppo and stormed the southern Damascus neighborhood of Nahr Aisha, breaking into shops and houses and burning some of them, activists said.

Assad's forces have reasserted control over several Damascus areas since they seized back the central Midan district on Friday, following a devastating bomb attack that killed four of Assad's top security officials.

Government forces have lost ground outside cities, ceding control of four border posts on the Turkish and Iraqi borders.

In Aleppo, activists said residents were fleeing the rebel-held districts of Al-Haideriya, Hanano and Sakhour after army shelling and clashes between rebels and government forces.  

The fighting in Damascus, Aleppo and the eastern city of Deir al-Zor has been some of the fiercest yet and showed Assad's determination to avenge last week’s bomb attack.

NBC's Ayman Mohyeldin answers your questions about Syria

Fighting continued for a fifth day near key government installations, indicating that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's control is faltering. As the opposition advances, Russia and China still refuse to support a resolution calling for tougher sanctions. NBC's Ayman Mohyeldin reports.

Bashar Assad's father, Hafez Assad, seized power in a 1970 coup and ruled for three decades until his death. Originally an Air Force officer and member of the Syrian Baath Party, Hafez al-Assad gradually introduced Alawite rule into every sector of Syrian government and society.

Activists: At least 20 men executed
In another development, government forces executed at least 20 men, aged approximately 20 to 30, activists said by phone from Mezzeh on Sunday.

"Most had bullet holes, one with as many as 18. Three had their hands tied behind their back. Some of the men were in their pajamas. Several had their legs broken or fingers missing. Others were stabbed with knifes," Bashir al-Kheir, one of the activists, told Reuters.

Analysts: Russia will be big loser if Assad falls

Opposition and rebel sources have also told Reuters the guerrilla fighters in the capital may lack the supply lines to remain there for long and may have to make tactical withdrawals.

The neighborhood of Barzeh, one of three northern areas hit by helicopter fire, was overrun by troops commanded by President Assad's brother, Maher al-Assad, 41, who is widely seen as the muscle maintaining the Assad’s rule.

Crucial role
Maher's role has become more crucial since Assad's defense and intelligence ministers, a top general and his powerful brother-in-law were killed by the bomb on Wednesday, part of an assault by rebels seeking to turn the tables in a revolt inspired by Arab Spring uprisings in Tunisia, Libya and Egypt.

Syrian rebels seize border post after fierce battle

Assad has not spoken in public since the bombing, but the Israeli military said it believed he was still in Damascus and retained the loyalty of his armed forces.

Regional and Western powers fear the conflict might become a full-blown sectarian war that could spill across borders, but have yet to find a coherent strategy to prevent that outcome.

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Liton Habibvia FacebookDeleted

This is just another day in the religion of peace and love where they kill innocents or those they consider and infidel. This is garbage that is in the process of trying to look like a main course at a fine restaurant. Do not be deceived those that call themselves rebels are no better, in fact they are probably worse than those they do battle with.

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#2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

This is not a war of religion, you nitwit, this is a war of politics. Go find your facts.

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#2.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:03 AM EDT

The article completely missed the point of the article. Maybe they wantyed you to read between the lines, but I don't think the average reader is going to do that.

The article repeatedly states and restates the Assad claims that chemical weapons would only be used in the case of "outside intervention." If you have been following this at all, you would know that over and over Assad has stated that the "rebels" are 100% "outside intervention". They claim that the rebels are ALL from other countries and are being paid by Israel, the US and Britain and that many of them are drug dealers and ciagrette smugglers from Turkey. So, if you put a very simpl;e two and two together, ity appears that Assad has built a case that the rebels are foreigners and represent the foreign intervention against which it is okay to use chemical weapons. These are often referred to as "poor man's nukes" by the military because of the potential devastation. And, if you remember, Assad was trying to build a nuclear reactor, with North Korea's help, to produce fissile material for a bomb. I believe that Israel found problems with their building permit and construction was halted.

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#2.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:27 PM EDT

Liza Null: It is indeed a war of politics, however, perpetrated by a religion that endorses violence to achieve its political aims. And please, don't use derogatory terms to insult people - remember that saying about glass houses?

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#2.3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

Any use by Syria of chemical weapons, whether against its own people or against foreign invaders, would be a direct violation of the Geneva Convention on Chemical Warfare, but I suppose Assad doesn't really care since he and his government are on the U.N.'s @!$%# list anyway. It would, however, make him and all those complicit with him war criminals.

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#2.4 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

Of course they do. They belonged to Iraq. Slick Willies lax administration did nothing to prevent Saddam from hiding, and exporting all of them, and much of the evidence of their existence.

We do know that chemical weapons were a conventional weapon to him, he used them regularly against his own people, and Iran. U.N. soldiers, and inspectors said they saw the convoys heading to Syria.

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#2.5 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:03 PM EDT

Boy that was surprise. sarc/

Now that the elephant in the room, one that has been sitting there for years, has been acknowledged, this is another case of out of the fire and into the frying pan. As usual the whole situation stinks all the way around, but thus far, publicly at least, we are keeping our noses out of it. At least we have been paying close attention and it seems Syria is at least trying to protect what it has. At any rate I just hope the wrong people don't get ahold of these. If anything I think the UN should be asking Russia if they could step in and take control of these weapons, removing them from the country, and then destroy the storage and any manufacturing facilities that are left. If not to stand up for the human rights violations we have seen thus far to at least prevent violations and atrocities that would pale should these weapons fall into the wrong hands. Otherwise this maybe where outside forces will have to step in, to destroy these weapons only that is.

These weapons were my main concern all along (#2 the rise of another radical muslim country; yes all the innocent people getting killed is a concern too) I just hope this thing doesn't go to far south. One thing if they fight each other with rpg's and knock off AK's but give these special needs children chemical weapons, no way.

It is time

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#2.6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

I'm not sure if I'm entirely comfortable with Russia having those weapons, but I suppose the alternatives would be what? China? Israel? Turkey?

Truth be told though, I'd much rather that Russia have them over Hezbollah, Hammas, al-Qaeda or, yes, even Mossad.

This article doesn't come as surprise to me and from what I have seen, Chris is right. Alot of these "rebels" are in fact foreigners so Assad will likely use that technicality to unleash those chemical weapons.

Food for thought: Syria had these weapons all along and Bush had our troops on a wild goose chase in Iraq.

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#2.7 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

SSPerfectChaos,

"Truth be told though, I'd much rather that Russia have them over Hezbollah, Hammas, al-Qaeda or, yes, even Mossad."

The Russians already have a more than adequate stockpile of chemical weapons of their own. They don't need Syria's.

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#2.8 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

What's so bad about Syria having chemical weapons? After all, we have our own stockpile, in fact, when they were tearing-down an old warehouse at the former Rocky Mtn Arsenal a few years back, the workers found a couple dozen Sarin bombs that somebody forgot about, in close proximity to the homes of hundreds of thousands of people, and since the Rocky Mtn Arsenal was largely abandoned then with a skeleton security presence, there could easily be several more hiding in various local residents garages or basements today too!

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#2.9 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

Bashar Assad will be "Beheaded for his crimes, his time is coming !!!!!

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#2.10 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

It is time for SEAL TEAM 6!

    #2.11 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

    Old Timer,

    "What's so bad about Syria having chemical weapons? After all, we have our own stockpile"

    You're right. I think every country that has the capability to make chemical weapons has its own stockpile of them. It may be illegal to use them, but I don't think there is any law against making them. It's sort of like nuclear weapons. Every country that knows how to make them has them, but everyone is afraid to actually use them.

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    #2.12 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

    Next item on the agenda is, who gets their hands on these weapons? Libya had huge stockpiles of weapons that up and disappeared, guess Syria is next and if radical extremists get hold of them, where do they end up? Anyone want to take any bets?

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    #2.13 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:31 PM EDT

    When a nation is in civil war, it is easy to make claims. This article is pure propaganda and hoax like before Iraqi wars.

    Syrian rebels are supported by the barbaric, beastly and bigoted Sunni Saudi Islamic religious Nazis like al-Qaida, MB and other Sunni militants.

    Just check all languages of the UN, human rights groups, media and others!

    If atrocities and barbarism on girls, children and women are the criteria, then the most despotic, autocratic and bigoted Sunni Saudi ruler with his 5000 princes and princesses, Kuwaiti, UAE and other Arab League Sunni rulers and their rich sheiks are the biggest culprits in the history.

    In killing of opponents again, these people have established world records.

    If the US, Britain and others support such Sunni barbarians and beasts who treat girls and women as cheap sex slaves, then one can only conclude that Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists determine what to see, how to lecture and where and when to act.

    Rest like “human rights”, “killing of children and women”, “militants”, “terrorists”, “WMDs”, “chemical weapons” and so on are a pure hoax.

    Similar hoaxes were played each time before Iraqi wars on directions of Saudi, oil companies and their lobbyists.

    Now none of them are looking into Iraq, where at least a million have been killed and devastated.

    Twice are too much to tolerate.

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    #2.14 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:33 AM EDT

    marking the first time Bashar Assad’s regime has acknowledged it possesses weapons of mass destruction.

    So chemical weapons are weapons of mass destruction in Syria's hands yet in Saddam's hands, even though he used them repeatedly, they were just mythical peashooters fabricated by the Bush administration.

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    #2.15 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:33 AM EDT

    Johnathan pretty much nailed it. The western powers, in cahoots with the Saudis and others of their ilk are working real hard to get radical fundamentalist Islam established in areas that were once sectarian and relatively open for women and non-Islamic groups and religions. Note Egypt, Muslim Brotherhood, after generations of repression is now in power and female genital mutilation and destruction of Copts, et al, is now a very real fear. Love how Hillary and Obama are real good at helping to set up radical Islam, the very group we are supposed to be fighting is now their new best friends.

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    #2.16 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

    hmmmm, starting to look like a repeat of saddams rhetoric that led to our 2nd invasion of iraq. A WMD is a WMD. The only difference being we knew saddam used them in the past and his constant interference with international inspection teams implied that he still had them. I recall news reports that the russians were seen transporting something into syria prior to the 2nd invasion of iraq. Could this be iraqs chemical WMD's that were never found by coalition forces and that assad now claims to have?

      #2.17 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

      Of course much, if not all of these Syrian WMDs are from Iraq. Former Iraqi General Georges Sada details the story of how they were smuggled into Syria prior to the start of the ground campaign in his book, Saddam's Secrets.

      It seems that Bush might have been right after all. Hmmmmm....

        #2.18 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:34 PM EDT
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        Again, all this based on religion... What a shock.

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        Reply#3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:21 AM EDT

        based it based upon religion during the american revolution? Syrians through arab spring movement finally got the courage to stand up to their evil dictator, soon Assad will be dead and the people of syria will be celebrating in the streets. This is about syrians winning their freedom and rights, like the right to elect their leader instead of the dictator electing himself while restricting their rights and freedom. Question? what about the torture chambers all across the country that are being used on protesters and even children

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        #3.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:43 AM EDT

        John,

        Religion was one of several reasons to break free from the British Empire.

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        #3.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:13 AM EDT

        You mean freedom like egypt is experiencing.You Fools!

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        #3.3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

        I speak of the past not the present dub.

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        #3.4 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

        Nich - just to clarify it was the freedom to practice whatever religious views they had which were different than England's use of religion.

        Syria isnt about religion any more than any of the other Arab nation's revolts were. It was and is about getting rid of a dictator that opress their people.

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        #3.5 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

        With a Threat Like this, I say, USE the 500K Bombs and make a BIG EMPTY HOLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST, and Anywhere else that NEEDS a SHOW ME,BS.

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        #3.6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

        @Jonathan,

        You are wrong about the involvement of religion in Syria. About 80% of the Muslin world are Sunnis. Shiites are less than 18%. Sunnis and Shhites hate each other and have done so for centuries. There is exactly one Shiite country - Iran. There is one other country that is Shiite-controlled and has a Shiite majority - Iraq which is moving closer to Iran every day. And there is one other country that is run by Shiites - Syria. Syria is controlled by a tiny (<15%) Shiite cult called the Alawites. The Alawites celebrate Christmas and Easter and consider Christ as close to Mohammed as a prophet among other oddities. Assad is Alawite and this "rebellion" is about a Sunni majority trying to throw out an Alawite Shiite minority. The politics hinge around the Baathist Party which is essentially so ruthless and repressive that it has NO politics at all.

        And during the Raj, Britain was extremely tolerant of colonial religions. Not to say they didn't prosletize, but that also allowed Islam, Sikhism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and many others to flourish. It is true that that is one reason why they were so pissed at the Ottoman Empire's siding with the Germans in WWI. But their revenge there came in creating artificial state boundaries that guaranteed that the country would be forever involved in civil war. Palestine, East Africa, Indian sub-continent, Southeast Asia, are all good examples, the best being Kurdistan, in which a people with a discrete culture and language were divided among four countries as punishment for WWI. Gurarnaeed to cause trouble in Turkey, Syria, Iran and Iraq forever.

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        #3.7 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

        Nicholas P - you wrong, high taxes, remember the boston tea party, freedom and the right to elect their leader of "their" choosing, just as in syrians, it is the people of syria encouraged through arab spring movement that gave them to courage to stand up to this evil dictator

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        #3.8 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

        Many chemical weapons are neither difficult to manufacture or acquire, so why the surprise over the possession of chemical weapons by Syria? The only question is; will they use them?

        Dubsak20 3.3

        Egypt experiencing freedom? You are indeed oblivious to the direction the country is headed. By next year it should be obvious even to you.

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        #3.9 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

        Some of you people need to read a good book about the American Revolution beside that fifth grade text book you read once. The American Revolution was all about money. Plain and simple. The colonists wanted to move west of the Appalachians and the Crown did not want to let them because they had fought the French for 75 years previously in the Seven Years War and the French and Indian Wars. As part of that the treaty that ended that fighting the British and to agree to stay out of the Midwest that the French claimed and the Indians homelands. Tobacco depleted the soil in the colonies and the aquiring of new land was necessary to the planter class slave owners. Cotton was not especially profitable until after the invention of the cotton gin in 1794. England did not want to be dragged into another expensive war with the French and Indians. Especially one that the colonists did not want to pay taxes for or fight in themselves. Poor British men joined the army or fled to America. Poor American British men moved west and stole Indian land. They did not join the army.The revolution wasn't a MASS uprising many colonists remained loyal to the Crown and paid for it dearly after the war. A further land grab. The taxes that parliment imposed were small and mainly were just to reimburse the government for monies raised from British citizens back home. The colonists also feared the Crown would soon abolish slavery and did in 1833. Thirty two years before we did. The joke was on the colonists because once England left the new American states and Federal government imposed even higher taxes to pay for the new governments and to repay all the money the borrowed to fight the war.

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        #3.10 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

        If they had access to those chem. weapons, they would have used them by now. The CIA....er, I mean Non-Profit Organizations have already secured them through the use of coercion, prostitutes, assassination, and spec ops. He's just trying to scare his neighbors...those that matter know he's bluffing.

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        #3.11 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

        Followers of Islamic cult, especially Sunni Saudi inspired Islamic radicals and militants (al-Qaida, Salaffi, Wahhabi, MB and other label ones), are fast marching backwards to their seventh century desert tribal days of rapings, lootings, killings and genocides of non-Muslims (Darfur, S. Sudan, Somalis, Nigera and so on) and Muslims (Syria, Iraq, Mali, Pakistan and others).

        It appears that different yard stick apply to these one-way street Sunni Saudi Islamic religious Nazis.

        If Assad has to quit just because he belongs to minority Shiites, then Shiites majority should not tolerate the most autocratic, corrupt and despotic Sunni Bahrain ruler.

        Better wake up before it is too late on inventions of problems by followers of Islamic cult!

        One can't believe that many are jumping all around as in Iraq on Assad, one of the best ME Muslim rulers, as soon as Sunni Saudis and co, oil companies and their lobbyists flash monies.

        Israeli Netanyahu is another nut case who does not look beyond his window. What is his problem if Muslims are killing each other?

          #3.12 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:55 AM EDT

          THe middle east Israel included is full of people who dont understand religious

          freedom, secularism or western style governmentts. They are all backwards and stuck

          in the dark ages. Sure Israel gets help from the west especially Jews living in first

          world countries, but if not for that they would be no better than the rest of those wretched

          religious zealots.

          Of course its about money. always is .

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          #3.13 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:10 PM EDT
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          JimHoooDeleted

          Israel and the US should attack Iran now. We can deal with Syria later.

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          #6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:49 AM EDT

          Do you have even the slightest clue about how modern, large and powerful Iran is and what would happen throughout the region if we even thought about doing that, cowboy?

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          #6.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:41 AM EDT

          We need another war like we need more drought in the US states being affected by it now. Bad idea.

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          #6.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

          Iran is neither modern, large or powerful. They said the same thing about Iraq before the first gulf war too, then we wiped the floor with them. Iran has outdated, obsolete equipment and poorly trained soldiers and pilots.

          I don't support an invasion of Iran under any circumstances, but we can very easily and effectively bomb them into oblivion a hundred times over without ever setting foot on Iranian soil. Nothing in the Iranian arsenal would be even remotely effective against a concerted air attack from the US.

          We need to do it now, before they get a nuclear weapon and become untouchable, like North Korea.

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          #6.3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

          All they need to do is have their Iraqis allies attack American position it Iraq. Send weapons to their Shia brothers in Bahrain and send weapons to the Taliban in Afghanistan. They can mess with Uncle Sam without firing a shot. Let's hope this leads to bringing back the draft.

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          #6.4 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

          TJP77
          Iran is neither modern, large or powerful.

          You are completely ignorant of the facts. Iran is a modern, wealthy nation with large urban areas, universities and highly educated population, why do you suppose they can build highly technical nuclear research sites in the first place? You need to do some research yourself...your ignorance is dangerous and appalling.

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          #6.5 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

          Yeah right.

          Again, they said the exact same things about Iraq before the first gulf war. How technologically advanced they were, how they had the third largest standing army, how they had the best air defense system in the world, how their population was educated and urbane, how the country was rich and well developed, how they would be a formidable opponent to any US military strike... then we destroyed their entire ability to make war in under a month, in the most overwhelming and lopsided military victory in the history of warfare.

          And Iraq had nuclear facilities and scientists and everything else that Iran has now. No difference.

          You need to read your history and maybe even read up a little bit on what the US military is actually capable of before you look any more foolish. The Iranian military in its entirety can be eliminated within two weeks if we really tried.

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          #6.6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:10 PM EDT

          Then what is stopping us?

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          #6.7 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

          @culheath - The price of oil on the world market would skyrocket.

            #6.8 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:51 AM EDT

            Yup. It all comes down to the price of oil at this point. Nobody wants to spike oil prices in the middle of a recession unless it's absolutely necessary, but we're fast approaching the point where it's going to be absolutely necessary if Iran gets any closer to actually building a nuclear weapon.

              #6.9 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:54 AM EDT

              Why don't you send your children to that war once we start it, moron?

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              #6.10 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

              Yea all these loudmouths calling for war are the last ones to go or send their kids to

              go. Chicken Hawks like Cheney and all his Zionist friends. Bunch of cowards.

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              #6.11 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

              Yeah, my little brother is in the Marines, just got done with two tours in Afghanistan, and may end up with a third. So I know full well what military action involves for soldiers and their families.

              And like I said, I don't support invading Iran, just as I don't think invading Iraq was a good move, or staying in Afghanistan as long as we have. We can, however, accomplish our strategic goals with air power quite easily and with minimal risk to our personnel.

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              #6.12 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:13 PM EDT

              Why is it necessary to bomb Iran but it was not for N Korea?

              N korea is more backwards and has a serious army and a legitimate

              chance of hitting america with a Nuclear weapon.

              This is the Media brainwashing people into beliving we have to bomb Iran.

              Everything that goes boom in the world the Israeilies try to pin on Iran.

              im sure we will get roped into another false war for the Zionists, this one

              could be our last.

              A strike on Iran would not work, their facilities are fortified, the consequences

              could be disaterous. Plus can we really afford another war? we will be bankrupt next year.

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              #6.13 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

              TJP77

              Let me star off by saying that I hope your brother comes through his tour safely.

              Now having said that I have to say that being a student of Military History that I think you place too much faith in the strength of air power, after all ever since the invention of Air Warfare, the use of Air power alone has never won a war (the belief that it could was very popular in the inter-war years) as grounds troops are always needed to secure land, to confirm results and so forth, now I’d bet you’d say that with all the sophisticated tech the USAF has that that shouldn’t be a problem, well unfortunately it is, and I point to an incident in the Iraq war of 2003 in which a US aircraft strafed a British tank unit (causing casualties) despite the fact that said unit was found to be using everything to identify itself as friendly as an example of the limitations of air power. Furthermore I would have to say that whilst Iran’s military capability may not be a factor for you, it sure as hell is for US allies, after all Iran does have long range missiles that could reach Israel and western Europe too, so maybe that is something to consider before appealing for military action against Iran.

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              #6.14 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:20 PM EDT
              Reply

              20 down, many more to go.

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              Reply#7 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

              Assad forces also used helicopter gunships to attack syrians in a place of worship, that shows how brual and sick this dictator is. Gadhafi did the same thing (attack protesters and citizens with gunships) he is dead now and Assad is using Gadhafi's playbook to commit genocide then blame it on terrorist groups. Assad will end up like Gadhafi, a dead dictator deserving a taste of his own medicine

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              Reply#8 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:06 AM EDT

              Thats what hillary and the UN wants is Assad dead.

                #8.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

                Be careful what you wish for, you may get it. When Assad falls (and that is almost a certainty), as the article alludes to - what will happen to the chemical warfare stocks and the anti aircraft missiles etc? We are looking at more religious fanatics taking power, so when a civilian airliner is shot down or a US city is hit with a chemical attack, remember, this is all in the name of freedom! Freedom to kill others for an insane religion - freedom, baby!

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                #8.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:27 AM EDT

                We are looking at more religious fanatics taking power,....

                That's exactly what scares me about the tea party and religious right here. Why do you think the Congressional House can't do a damn thing constructive and has managed to pass bills restricting people's rights, mostly women? Because it's been filled with religiously inspired right wing nut jobs who nothing about political compromise or how to be a representative.

                Religious radicals and zealots are the same everywhere.

                • 9 votes
                #8.3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

                pray tell, culheath, what women's rights have been restricted as of late?

                • 5 votes
                #8.4 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

                Our Congress has taken away our rights, just as the president has done over and over again since he has been in office, but not because of religion but rather in spite of religion or in this case in spite of Christianity. The garbage I hear out of many of our leaders include a lot of twisted use of scriptures.

                • 2 votes
                #8.5 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

                Don't forget North Korea and what that Idiot did to Prtesting Students. Wasn't that close to the same thing that happened at KENT STATE......HMMMMMM

                  #8.6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

                  culheath, go look in a mirror. See that? Now that is a zealot!!

                  • 1 vote
                  #8.7 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                  lucas-1067224

                  pray tell, culheath, what women's rights have been restricted as of late?

                  Try reproductive rights. Are you unaware of the number of Republican bills that have to introduced and passed in the last year by both the House and across the Republican controlled states?

                  • 1 vote
                  #8.8 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

                  Steve Sjurset

                  culheath, go look in a mirror. See that? Now that is a zealot!!

                  The only thing I am zealous about is battling ignorance and stupidity.

                  • 1 vote
                  #8.9 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

                  Reproductive rights?.. you mean being against govt financing of birth control? Since when did govt supplied contraception become a right? If you are such a loser that you cant get a $9 a month birth control pill supply at wal-mart, or spring for a $5 pack of rubbers, you don't need to be having sex...

                  • 1 vote
                  #8.10 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:46 AM EDT
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                  So we go from one dictator to another... Nothing will change. Has anything changed in Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan? It's all still the same except they have new dictators.

                  Kind of like the old Soviet Union now Russia. They still control their people, gave them some freedom, so they say, however, make waves against the government and they have a way of making you disappear...

                  Corruption is the norm within these countries and that will never end....

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#9 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

                  As though the US political scene is not corrupt. Puhleeeeze.

                  • 4 votes
                  #9.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                  @mark-2310760 Like America is any different...in that sense...puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze...

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:06 PM EDT
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                  I don't believe one single word from this main stream news outlet. Weren't we told how evil Saddam was? And where are all his alleged weapons of mass destruction? Were is the yellow cake he was trying to purchase from Nigeria? All lies...

                  It seems to me that if a government doesn't let U.S and European companies take over their resources, then their leaders are evil dictators, but if you let them right in and let them steal your resources, then they are friends and "allies". Look at Saudia Arabia for instance, they chop people's heads off for any reason, and yet they are a "friend" and "ally" of the U.S and Europe...what a joke! No wonder the entire world laughs at the U.S.

                  • 9 votes
                  Reply#10 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

                  They did find tons of the yellow cake in Iraq (under-reprted, 'cuz that woulda destroyed the media narrative against W). As far as the chemical and biological stuff: It's in Syria right now. All those midnight convoys of Iraqi truck going into Syria in the weeks leading up to the war weren't carrying sand, ya know.

                  • 12 votes
                  #10.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

                  Like I said, Make a BIG F&*%ING HOLE in the Middle East. That will STOP a Lot of CRAP..

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

                  Lucas, I wondered when someone would point what may be the origins of these weapons. They may very well be the ones we were searching for so long ago. If so, I have to wonder how stable are they and can only guess that their deployment would be unpredictable at best and catastrophic at worst I think to publicly threaten to use them is a sign of Assad seeing the writing in the wall. For those who say this is not about religion, that is now. When it is over and said and done, it will be very much about religion and the power of a particular sect of Islam.

                    #10.3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

                    Weren't we told how evil Saddam was?

                    Are you saying he wasn't???

                    And where are all his alleged weapons of mass destruction?

                    For the record, early on in the war in Iraq it was thought that Iraq could have been shipping it's chemical weapons to Syria, a boardering nation.

                    Syria "admitting" to having chemical weapons does one of two things for me, either they are faking it, much like Saddam may have been, or these are in fact the weapons they took in from Iraq.

                    • 7 votes
                    #10.4 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

                    STOP IT, Dougler !

                    If ppl believe your argument, they cant make the case that Bush is responsible for all the world's evils and that he is the AntiChrist...THEN who will they have to blame ? Oh, yeah, right - there's always Israel.

                    The FACT is, that as a precondition of the end of Gulf War 1, Saddam agreed to identify all WMD's, allow inspections and prove the destruction of his WMD's. 3 year after, he stopped letting inspectors in; refused to tell us where the WMD's were destroyed. We KNEW, for a FACT, that Saddam had them (he used them on his own ppl).

                    I dont know about you, but, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's a duck.

                    I DO believe those WMD's existed.

                    I DO believe Bush did the right thing. Maybe he could have done it better, but, liberals delayed our ability to go go in sooner; you know...much like Assad's nuclear ambitions.

                    • 11 votes
                    #10.5 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

                    Well Jeff, as long as you believed it, the 4500 dead soldiers, the 10s of thousands of seriously wounded soldiers and the 3.5 trillion dollar price tag become well worth the expense.

                    Oops, I forgot, you look at the world through the eyes of a Zionist. Whatever you deem good for Israel, must be worth the effort by America.

                    For your information, the inspectors, under Hans Blix, were scouring every place we told them to look and they were not finding anything. It was America that had the inspectors pulled out so we could bomb Iraq with "shock and awe". Remember the mobile biological weapons labs, Bush and Cheney were touting every time they were on TV? They were for filling weather balloons. Did you believe Bush then? I didn't.

                    After the war, it has been established that Iraq, along with NATO troops, did destroy all the WMD in the country. The little bit that may have been missed, deteriorated with age. It doesn't last forever, you know.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

                    ooops. Sorry, I meant "Iran's" nuclear ambitions, not Assad's. (10.5).

                      #10.7 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:19 PM EDT

                      RALPHIE !

                      Ahh, I knew Newsvine's most fervent antisemite would come out of the wall with the rest of the roaches.

                      Your last sentence - do you have any facts to prove that ? Or are you relying on Al Jezeera again ?

                      As to Hans Blix, first of all, he couldnt find *&$% at the bottom of an unflushed toilet. Second, MY opinion is that they were transferred to Syria (and we SURE gave them enough time to do that)...much like Syria's are being transported to Iran OR Iraq now.

                      • 2 votes
                      #10.8 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

                      I'm with you, Jeff. They were there, and I always believed it. Especially when they recovered the yellow cake uranium, and started finding old sarin gas rounds outfitted as IED's after the invasion. They tried to make the argument that these items were just old, defunct items that had been "forgotten" about, but when they start showing up on the battlefield, it leads one to wonder how much stuff WAS there to be able to have some kicking around that were just "forgotten" about.

                      Saddam had trucked alot of his stuff out to his fellow Baath party buddy Assad. He certainly wasn't gonna ship it out to the shiites in Iran, couldn't go to Kuwait and Saudi, and Assad already had the facilities to deal with and house the weapons. Some even say the Russians were involved, which makes sense: they were having back room deals w/ Saddam before the war, and have a large naval facility (as well as big $ weapons contracts) in Syria.

                      It makes sense now, 10 yrs later, seeing how cozy the russians are being with Assad.

                      It made sense then, as well, because no way was the US gonna piss down Putin's back by running any kind of op inside Syria to stop the convoys, since we needed some kind of tacit global approval to go after saddam.

                      • 2 votes
                      #10.9 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

                      @Ralph..

                      Weather balloons? Are you serious? Do you really think Saddam was busy launching out weather balloons? Gimme a break.

                      • 2 votes
                      #10.10 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

                      September 8, 2003


                      The discovery by U.S. forces in Iraq of two mobile 'biological weapons laboratories' was touted by President Bush as clear evidence that Iraq possessed illegal weapons capabilities. However, it now is clear that these so-called labs were nothing more than hydrogen generation units based upon British technology acquired by Iraq in the 1980s, used to fill weather balloons in support of conventional artillery operations, and have absolutely no application for the production of biological agents.

                      — Scott Ritter, a former United Nations weapons inspector, wrote in the San Francisco Chronicle on September 8, 2003

                      • 2 votes
                      #10.11 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:48 PM EDT

                      Sarin has a relatively short shelf life, and will degrade after a period of several weeks to several months. The shelf life may be greatly shortened by impurities in precursor materials. According to the CIA,[2] in 1989 the Iraqi Government destroyed 40 or more tons of sarin that had decomposed, and that some Iraqi sarin had a shelf life of only a few weeks, owing mostly to impure precursors.

                      I wonder if this is the stuff you right wing clowns claim Saddam sent to Syria. Get over it. Iraq did not have WMD when we invaded and they didn't ship anything to Syria.

                      • 2 votes
                      #10.12 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

                      ralphH, sorry i don't buy off on your argument. especially about saddam not shipping anything to syria.

                      • 1 vote
                      #10.13 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:32 PM EDT
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                      looks like this country will completely self destruct ,best thing for usa is to stay out ,we would be losers all the same if we went in for one side OR the other, besides ,this way we won't have any responsability to rebuild syria from the ground up,like we had in iraq and afghanistan.the russians wanted it this way,the chinese wanted it this way,let the russians and the chinese rebuild syria.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#11 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                      Exactly. As much as Assad deserves two in the hat, if just for harboring Baathist insurgents, when you have Iran backing him, with al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood in opposition, the correct course of action is to root for the bullets.

                      And if the Russians or the Chinese get involved? The more the merrier!

                      The more our enemies fight each other, the better off we'll all be.

                      It's truly a pity that Assad, the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaeda, and Iran can't all lose.

                      • 1 vote
                      #11.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:49 PM EDT
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                      Our paid off media should be ashamed of them self's , just like our government , every time I read something about Syria it said , The rebels sources said , NO SHIIIIIT How long are you all people going to believe this BS , Hillary and McCain , Lieberman and all these hawks in this administration with the financing of the Saudis , Qataris and the help of Turkey and Lebanon and Jordan are doing this in Syria , they are smuggling these Alqaida thugs into Syria , the Syrian had killed and captured thugs from Saudi , Tunisia , Egypt , Morocco , Chechnya , Libya ,Pakistan, and lots of these Muslim extremists countries fighting in Syria and they are burning their dead so the Syrians could not Identify them , and you the bombing that killed the Syrian Christian defense minster was carried out by a very high and modern explosive that had to an foreign country Intel. involved in it , and now we are saying the Syrians using chemical and biological weapons on their citizens , Have any body heard this anywhere before ???? come on people it sounds like NATO Intel. all over this , you want to attack Syria and remove Assad , tell us the damn truth , do not beat around the bushes like you did in Iraq , Its a shame the same countries that trying to save civilians are the same countries that killing them .

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#12 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                      So what! How many unarmed men did the "Activists" killed that were unarmed.

                      They have not bombed and raided village after village without killing many, many people.

                      We never hear about that because that would mean the thugs who are calling themselves ACTIVISTS, would have to TAKE AS MUCH BLAME AND answer to the U.N.

                      And what a JOKE that is since U.N. is hell bent on over throwing a Recognized GOVERNMENT. So anything those so called "activists" have to say, as far as the reports go, are all LIES. They are one-sided and have no merit what so ever!


                        Reply#13 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

                        My God! Assad's men capured some of the enemy and executed them. They were even unarmed! What will that devil do next.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#14 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

                        Last time we hung a man or executed him here in the US was unarmed , I have never seen an armed man get hang or executed without a fight , our media needs to get a grip , and quit their lies , its getting little ridicules .

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#15 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:11 AM EDT

                        The rebels have Assad playing whack-a-mole now. The end for him is drawing near, although many more will die before it's over. What will follow is anyone's guess, but it's hard to believe that it could be worse than a heriditary dictatorship that is willing to slaughter as many of its own citizens as necessary to preserve its own power.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#16 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:16 AM EDT

                        Of course Syria has WMDs.... during the two months between our ultimatum to Iraq/Hussein and actually going in, they were frantically shipping their WMD stocks across the border. There's a reason that Hussein's son was called "Chemical Ali"... for nerve gassing Kurds in northern Iraq. That said, the whole s***hole of Syria isn't worth one American life. Let 'em kill each other. That's what they do anyway, and no matter what we do, they'll hate us

                        • 6 votes
                        Reply#17 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

                        About time someone can connect the dots. No surprise here.

                        • 1 vote
                        #17.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:09 PM EDT

                        To finish connecting the dots, how about George Schultz and Caspar Weinberger (Reagan's State & Defense secretaries) who both were Bechtel executives (President and Vice President), and Bechtel helped Saddam develop chemical weapons.

                        So if Bush and Cheney thought Saddam had WMD's, it was because Schultz and Weinberger probably kept receipts from selling them to Saddam.

                        • 2 votes
                        #17.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

                        pagan, actually the chemicals sold to saddam during the reagan years could have been developed into an effective insecticide OR a chemical WMD. Looks like saddam made the wrong choice.

                          #17.3 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                          The chemicals we sold Saddam were intended for chemical weapons. The Reagan administration was in cahoots with Saddam. He was our friend. We double crossed him before the first Gulf War, when we fooled hm into thinking we did not care if he invaded Kuwait. April Glaspie was our representative who deliberately misinformed Saddam.

                          Look up April Glaspie and you will find out we snookered Saddam into thinking he could attack Kuwait with no interference from us. We wanted to attack Iraq and he gave us an excuse, thanks to our little subterfuge. America is a devious country.

                          • 1 vote
                          #17.4 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:40 PM EDT
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                          "These weapons are stored and secured by Syrian military forces and under its direct supervision and will never be used unless Syria faces external aggression,” he added.

                          What he meant to say is: If our Military installations are attacked in an effort to secure the region, we will retaliate by lobbing missiles equipped with chemical and biological weapons at Israel and kill as many innocent civilians as possible. And, since we were attacked we will use this opportunity to commit genocide within our own borders because there must be Israeli soldiers on the ground as well.

                          We get your point!

                          • 4 votes
                          Reply#18 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                          Ouch !

                          Truth hurts.

                            #18.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:16 PM EDT
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                            They have no chemical weapons. This is a ploy just like Saddam used to try to keep the US and other countries at bay. We should send the French as it is their turn.

                            • 4 votes
                            Reply#19 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

                            Saddam never had any SCUDS? Where have you been. Time to get out from under your rock.

                            • 4 votes
                            #19.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

                            The FRENCH ? Seriously ???

                              #19.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

                              DaCapo - Scuds! You were worried about scuds? Maybe you should come out from under your rock. Scud missiles were ineffective short range weapons, with little payload and crummy accuracy.

                              • 2 votes
                              #19.3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

                              SCUD......Stupid Canisters Unable to Detonate

                                #19.4 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:25 PM EDT
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                                Evil. hitler. nazi. scum. filth. dirt. abomination to God.

                                Anyone who attacks his/her own people to remain in power is these things.

                                And why governments stand by and talk is beyond me....the USA cannot play Police of the World and it never was in our interest to do so as it ALWAYS BACKFIRES...Only Jesus Christ can change the heart. He is coming Soon!

                                  Reply#20 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:53 AM EDT

                                  Oh, STOP it !

                                  He lived, then dies and, according to your Bible, he rose; then what ? He died AGAIN (or do you think he's still alive ?), so, he rises TWICE ? Or, if you're a Mormon, then, he rose again, came to the States, and lived long and died..only to..what, rise yet again ?

                                  I'm tellin' ya - this guy rises more often than a 16 year old boy on Viagra.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #20.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:10 PM EDT
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                                  "Syria has chemical weapons." I wonder where they got those from? Hmmmmmm. The mind goes wild. Remember news coverage reporting satellite tracking truck convoys moving into Syria from Iraq pre-Saddam downfall? No one could prove what was on the trucks at the time. Then there's the possibility of help from Russia or Iran (behind the scenes of course).

                                  It's "push comes to shove" time for Syria. IF they have chemical weapons THIS is the time they would use them. Hopefully Assad will just topple, sooner rather than later, and we will never have to find out if he actually used what he may or may not have.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#21 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:58 AM EDT

                                  Okay, so where did they get these WMD's?

                                    Reply#22 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

                                    Iraq.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #22.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

                                    Iraq is just returning the favor of Syria hiding Iraq's WMD's .

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #22.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:12 PM EDT

                                    Jeff the Zionist, trying to keep alive the myth that Iraq had WMD. They did not. If they did, the moron named George Bush woulkd have told you after the war and so would all the right wing Republicans, who have been embarrassed to tears about the fact there were no WMD in Iraq. Keep believing Jeff. I bet you believe in the tooth fairy.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #22.3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

                                    No. Just the Ralph Fairy.....(with apologies to tinker bell)

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #22.4 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

                                    Yes, weather balloons. Look it up. Just type "mobile biological weapons labs" and I am sure you will find weather balloons. Hans Blix could not find what was not there. Donald Kay couldn't find anything after the war either. Are you suggesting they moved the WMD during the war?

                                    We had satellite surveillance on Iraq the whole time. No trucks were going to Syria. You fools are forgetting we also claimed they were manufacturing WMD. Where did they do it? We secured the whole country, looked everywhere and interviewed, offered rewards and even tortured former generals. Guess what? No WMD! It was a fools errand, made up by Zionists, just as they are making up the threat from Iran. Bush was their "useful idiot", with the brain of a gnat.

                                    No more wars for Israel.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #22.5 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:44 PM EDT
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                                    You've got to love the "battle sandals" dude is wearing.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    Reply#23 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                                    Now that is the best comment yet. Not angry. Not mean. Not derogatory.

                                    I like it.......

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #23.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:44 PM EDT
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                                    Updated 11:05 a.m. ET: The Syrian government threatened Monday to use its chemical and biological weapons in the event the country faced foreign intervention, marking the first time Bashar Assad’s regime has acknowledged it possesses weapons of mass destruction.

                                    HERE WE GO AGAIN - who comes up with this @!$%#?

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#24 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

                                    Where, oh where did the Syrians get Chemical weapons? Hmmm....let's see....Kansas? No...uh...Fiji? No, that isn't right...

                                    Oh...oh, yeah. I know....maybe they got those from I R A Q. You know, all you "Bush lied.." enthusiasts. The nation that didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction (even though they had used them on the Kurds). The US took long enough to hit Iraq after 9/11 that Saddam had time to slip those weapons out the door.

                                    How long are we going to tilt at the "terrorist" windmill before we can take the PC bag off our head and recognize that we are at war with Islam? What country harbors muslims and their WMD's isn't the issue. It is Islam that is the enemy of free people everywhere.

                                    • 9 votes
                                    Reply#25 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

                                    That's the first thing that came to mind when I read the headline. I recall Syria was on the top of the list of where Saddam stashed his chem/bio weapons. If they fire them off or get toppled and we can get in and see the weapons I wonder if the Libs would apologize for all their bad mouthing about the "Bush lied" crapola.

                                    Who am I kidding! They never apologize they just get unusually quiet when the subject they were wrong on gets brought up.....

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #25.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

                                    Hey Steve, read this. Sarin has a relatively short shelf life, and will degrade after a period of several weeks to several months. The shelf life may be greatly shortened by impurities in precursor materials. According to the CIA,[2] in 1989 the Iraqi Government destroyed 40 or more tons of sarin that had decomposed, and that some Iraqi sarin had a shelf life of only a few weeks, owing mostly to impure precursors.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #25.2 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:20 PM EDT
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                                    Of course Assad will use chemical weapons, not only on an outside aggressor but eventually on his own people. Assad is fighting for his life. He knows that if he fails to crush the uprising he is a dead man. Look at all the recent dictators overthrown and their ultimate fate. Is there any incentive for him to step down? What country would offer him exile? What country could be relied to keep its word to provide sanctuary in the face of an International World Court arrest warrant? No, this guy, to paraphrase king Henry VIII, is willing to cut the earth in two and fling the halves into the void rather than change his course. What choice has he? Just be glad he does not have nuclear weapons.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#26 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

                                    Obama will again make history if Assad uses those chemical weapons. Obama is not a world leader. He is the organizer for the Chicago Drug Gangs.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#27 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

                                    how is obama responsible for syria using chemical weapons?

                                      #27.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

                                      He and his Jewish hemmorhoid allies brought in the Libyan al-Qaeda terrorist/rebel's and are responsible for 10's of thousands of dead Syrian civilians. War crimes in legal jargon.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #27.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

                                      Me thinx the AZCowboy's hemorrhoids hurt from Ralph being to rough.....

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #27.3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

                                      Jeff the Zionist is resorting to insults. It is "too", not "to" Jeff.

                                      Have you heard about the the "United States-Israel Enhanced
                                      Security Cooperation Act of 2012"? It was introduced by Senator Barbara Boxer
                                      on 3/6/12 with 71 Cosponsors.

                                      The House passed their version [H.R.4133] on May 9, pledging unlimited loyalty
                                      and riches to our "special friend" Israel, with only two congressman
                                      dissenting- Ron Paul and Democrat John Dingell of Michigan.

                                      The U.S. Senate passed their version on Friday June 29, 2012. Known in the
                                      Senate as S.2165, the measure guaranteed an astonishing $9 billion dollars in
                                      loans to Israel (plus all fees and interest!) in addition to giving
                                      "military assistance- stockpiles of defense articles" valued at $200
                                      million for 2013 and $200 million for 2014.

                                      Boxer praised passage of the bill, stating "I am so pleased that the
                                      Senate moved quickly to pass this important bill, which reaffirms the important
                                      bond between the United States and Israel and helps ensure that Israel has the
                                      necessary tools to defend itself in this time of dynamic change in the Middle
                                      East."

                                      Initially seeking documentation of which way turncoat Rand Paul voted on this
                                      treasonous bill, I tried to find the roll call votes. But as Harry Reid pointed
                                      out during the session, "THE NEXT ROLL CALL VOTE WILL BE AT NOON ON
                                      TUESDAY, JULY 10". The Senators passed this bill anonymously, in a
                                      so-called "voice vote"!...

                                      After tracking down the actual video of this travesty, which was no easy task-
                                      (they seem to make these things hard to find on purpose)- it was like watching
                                      something straight out of the twilight zone. Two old guys in suits mumbling
                                      under their breath in a strange monotone fashion, with the entire U.S. Senate
                                      taking literally less than six seconds total to squander 9 BILLION DOLLARS from
                                      the American people. A true outrage. They did not even call out each Senators
                                      name so that their constituents can hear whether they voted yea or nay.

                                      The bill will soon be sent to Obama for his signature. By going to http://thomas.loc.gov and typing the term United
                                      States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012
                                      in the search box,
                                      one can read full details on both the house and senate versions of this bill.

                                      The Senate version summary states that

                                      "it is U.S. policy to: (1)
                                      reaffirm the commitment to Israel's security as a Jewish state, (2) provide
                                      Israel with the military capabilities to defend itself and help preserve its
                                      qualitative military edge, (3) expand military and civilian cooperation, (4)
                                      assist in a negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that
                                      results in two states living side by side in peace and security, and (5)
                                      encourage Israel's neighbors to recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish
                                      state.

                                      Expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should take specified
                                      actions to assist in Israel's defense.

                                      Amends the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2005 to extend authority
                                      to transfer certain obsolete or surplus Department of Defense (DOD) items to
                                      Israel.

                                      Amends the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to extend authority to make additions
                                      to foreign-based defense stockpiles.

                                      Amends the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003 to extend
                                      specified loan guarantee authority to Israel.

                                      The law required that a Senate report
                                      be done on the bill. The law required that a
                                      Senate report be done on the bill. On June 27, two days before the voice vote,
                                      Skull and bones member John Kerry presented the obligatory "written report No. 112-179"...

                                      The report states "That the interest rate for loans guaranteed under
                                      this heading may include a reasonable fee to cover the costs and fees incurred
                                      by the borrower in connection with this program"
                                      , but then goes on to
                                      state "That funds made available for assistance to Israel under chapter
                                      4 of part II of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, as amended, may be utilized
                                      by the Government of Israel to pay such fees to the United States
                                      Government"
                                      !

                                      So we can charge them interest and fees on the $9 billion dollars, but then let
                                      them use our money to pay the fees! Jews working hard for Israel.

                                      This is what we get when we elect Jews to public office. They look out for other Jews and screw the American people (gentiles). Remember this vote and who wrote these bills, when you go to the polls. Also remember who will have gotten us into a new war, this time with Iran. It will not be cheap.

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                                      #27.4 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                                      And WHICH wars did the "Jews" get "US" into ?

                                      Did the U.S. spill its GI's blood for Jews when they went to Europe in the 40's Japan ?

                                      Did the U.S. spill our GI's blood for JEWS when we went to Korea ?

                                      Were "WE" protecting Jews when we went into Viet Nam ? (yeah, a hotbed of Jews if I ever saw one).

                                      Or was Kuwait, in Gulf War 1, REALLY acting on Jews' behalf when they begged us to repel Iraq's invasion ?

                                      Was American GI blood spilled in 1948 ? '56 ? '67 ? '73 ? '82 in Israel ?

                                      Are "WE" in Afghanistan because of JEWS ?

                                      C'mon, Ralphie - dazzle us with your brilliance....

                                        #27.5 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

                                        The problem with protesting these kind of bills is that your a branded an

                                        "anti semite". Kind of like disagreeing on anything involving the gays.

                                        Your a "homophobe"

                                        Israel will go down with the ship. China or Germany will be the new superpower

                                        once the US fails and china takes over. Nobody else likes Israel.

                                        Look at germany, they are an economic juggernout, hardly any Jews there.

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                                        #27.6 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                                        HEY Ralph H your comment about the Iraq war is a retard speaking, I have to side with Jeff 573598 on his comments to you too.

                                        I was there in the whole game of things you tool , and your so called Weather Ballon &*^%&*^ those vehicles were actually equipted as mobile chemical plants that has Sarin deposits in them,and in the other had more than the leathal dose of mustard powder from mustard gas .... YOU ^%^#%^ (third point of contact) the term "Waepon of Mass Destruction" dufus is a single round capiable in producing mass casualties not millions of rounds.

                                        Fact #2 If you were ever in Iraq you would know that even the locals that were interogated were witnesses to several areas wher they had knowlage of burial sites that were made, but did not know the exact location since sand shifts daily. Oh sorry is that your anti Bush bubble bursting?

                                        Fact # 3 There where 4 convoys that left iraq(Kirkuk) and they all were between 130-210 vehicles, they all were persumed to have transported the weapons that were hidden from U.N inspectors, out of Iraq and into neighbor Syria, We could not fire on the convoys because they had not authorized any use of force at that point. last convoy entered the border on the 18h of March 2003 and the war kicked off 3hrs after on the 19th of March. I know our drones filmed it and you can google i am sure the convoys that left. But your all about blaming Bush for everything, But if you want to talk longest war and longest occupation we are still in Germany, not as an occupational force but we are still there pumping money out. More americans were killed on the first day of D day that both wars combined, so stop the hate and re gurgitate.

                                        Fact #4 Your Hans Blick thing.... OOPS POP the next buble bursting.... The U. N was sent to where the Bathist allowed them to go and when the U. N wanted to go to another area that was not mentioned, they had to submit their request thru the diplomatic channels and that took around 30-90 days for approval, so bonehead your point there is wrong, but belive the media hype all that you see on TV isn't the whole truth. this is the facts that my and 3 other SF teams got info on . It's all be declassified as well and can be seen if you look for the real info.

                                        This is a hard but true thing to swallow and If you think that by leaving Saddam in place and ignoring him it would have made it better your wrong dude, It only would have gotten worst. the reason why we are on the fence in these issues now is because we have seen that not being directly involved gives us a better chance of not being the bad guy, it gives the people of that country the ability to do their own fighting and it reduces the looting and financial burned on us to clean up what we destroy. Be a little more of a person with perifial vision and not the horse with blinders type.

                                          #27.7 - Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:46 PM EDT
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                                          After reading through this diatribe, although not amazed, I had to laugh that there was no specilation as to where Assad got the chemical and biological weapons. Actually the international intelligence community does - IRAQ.

                                          The media never bother to report on the U.N.'s own S/2004/435 MOVIC report that tracked the movement of materials from Saddam's Iraq to Syria months prior to the U.S. invasion. Saddam's "missile" program materials were also found being disassembled and sold off to to be scrapped, as was found in a scrapyard in the Netherlands with Iraqi marking, as reported by this same report, but people still claim there were no WMD in Iraq after1996.

                                          Saddam and Assad were of the same party - Baathists. This party got it's start by Middle Eastern Nazi sympathisers back in the 40's. Out side of a couple of History Channel documentaries this information is rarely reported on either.

                                          These reports can be easily accessed and no one seems to bother to review and report that in fact G.W. Bush DID have valid intelligence that WMD were in the hands of Saddam's Iraqi military.I am still puzzled though as to why these reports were never exposed by the media and even more shocked that the Bush administration never refuted the alligation that there were no WMD in Iraq. True they weren't there by the time the U.S. went in but they were in fact there up until that time.

                                          I wasn't intially against the invasion of Iraq, but I was against the "nation building" that we spend ten long and bloody years where we shouldn't have been. Contrary to the theory that Bush went in there to avenge his father, or that Bush lied I believe that when all the data is released we will find that Assad and even the French and Russians had a part in "hinding" those checmical and biological weapons and missile technology.

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                                          Reply#28 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

                                          Except it was really the "threat" of nuclear weapons that bush used to sell the war...and also it hardly proves that bush didn't go in to "one up" and avenge the attempt on his dad's life.

                                          If there truly had been a threat to the US from iraq bush would have released proof..the fact that he didn't might suggest there never was a real threat. The simplest explanation is usually the right one.

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                                          #28.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

                                          To: Justshakingmyhead (me too)

                                          So much wasted computer 'ink.'

                                          Have you tried embroidery?"

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                                          #28.2 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

                                          vermontguy, I suggest that you read the UNMOVIC report. I only stated a couple of the issues that was in that report. I would be nice for people to do a little investigating of the issues on their own or is it just easier for you to swallow the left wing media's viewpoint on everything?

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                                          #28.3 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

                                          My Daughter was flying Recon missions during that time. She says it looked like an Okalahoma land rush with trucks heading out of Iraq.

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                                          #28.4 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

                                          right...it makes a lot of sense that saddam would get rid of all his weapons right before he got attacked...

                                          i am not saying that syria's chemical weapons have nothing to do with iraq, but the idea that saddam ferried them out *right before* the invasion just doesn't make any sense. saddam and his sons were killed, after all. they would have used weapons had they had any...

                                            #28.5 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

                                            Just Shaking My Head:

                                            Don't even bother trying to explain anything here. There are many people on here that only believe what a lib tells them and as you can see from VermontGuyys response,,, When ya hit them with the facts, they change the game...

                                            Ya got to love it.

                                              #28.6 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:26 PM EDT
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