Violating another country's embassy is an act of war and sets a very dangerous precedent.

People keep calling Assange a rapist, but the sex was consensual. Assange's "rape" charges are because he failed to use a condom. Yes, in Sweden that is punishable by 2 years in jail and is called rape.

unsane

if the embassy holds a person wanted for extradition by a third country under certain conditions you can go in and remove that person. it's a lawyer game

Texan,

No you can't. Reread your Geneva convention laws. They could no more do this, than they could invade a country to arrest someone. It is the sovereign territory of Ecuador.

Remember when the US invaded Panama in '89? Noriega spent 10 days in the Vatican Embassy and the US did not violate the Embassy grounds (other than playing rock music very loudly outside the walls), and this was in a country the US had just invaded and took over. Like I was saying, it is a very dangerous precedent, especially since everyone knows the "rape" charges are complete BS.

That roar is nothing compared to the worldwide roar that would have happened had China done to the US embassy what Britian is threatening now to the Ecudoran Embassy when we were giving Chen Guangcheng, the blind Chinese dissident, refuge before arranging for his hospitilization and then transfer to the USA. Had China threatened to revoke our diplomatic status and then proceed to violate the US embassy space to retrieve Chen Guangcheng, we would be on the verge of striking in a major war on Asian soil right now.

Britain best beware for they are violating a sacred trust and setting an example that China and others may like to follow while jeopardizing a breach of international treaties regarding embassies, diplomatic relations and international trust.

All this just to get even against Assaunge for whistle blowing on what was really happening in this "war on terror" where terrorism was merely an excuse to invade ME countries for their oils or access to it. All this for big, BAD, oil.

The NWO stooges don't want anybody to reveal their dirty secrets. Asange is a brave man.

Hold on a minute shorty, did this country not invade Pakistan to get Bin Laden?

Yes that's true. You're problem is you don't understand the rules. Western powers have special privileges. For instance when some Arabs blow up an airliner it's Terrorism but the US can shot one down in foreign airspace and it's OK.

Unsane,

If those are the chrages in Sweden, then he is an alleged rapist. He is a POS. These were women who worked for him. Be a man and face your charges, don't run and hide. Especially someone who likes to be a cool big man andexpose other country's military secrets. Once he has to face the music, he runs and hides.

Max,

If he is so brave, let him stand trial for his charges and prove himself innocent or guilty. He is a coward.

Moral of the story. Do not force yourself on sleeping women. Do not mess with the U.S secret service. Both harmful moves for yourself and others.

Bird in a cage.

@drowning; The info leaked put alot of lives in danger,and the families that had nothing to with the "dirty laundry" that was aired. One example was a list of the spots we thought Al Qaeda was going to hit. Also the people involved in making that list. So if your for Assange you are for helping terrorist.

Yep! If he is so innocent why is he running?

Yep! If he is so innocent why is he running?

Maybe because he has several powerful countries trying to get him. I'd be running too.

This is a battle Ecuador knows it will win. It gets their name in the papers. The leftist leader gets his 5 minutes in the sun and becomes a national hero.

Ecuadorians (the people) still look at the British as a world power is it was 200 years ago. To take the Brits down would be a day to remember.

Assange is an idiot... he recklessly recruits people to release secret information, very nearly all of which is not surprising at all.... his recruits go to jail, probably for life, while he skates around trying to get out of responsibility.

He deserves to be in prison, but the irony is... what he loves so much to do, while embarrassing to many countries, makes no difference in the world.... it's just a stroke for his ego.

The Brits need to just wait outside until he comes out to a car and arrest him.

and Ecuador is making the mistake of it's life...... no upside at all... none.... and they are blowing 100% of their diplomatic reputation on this idiot.

Based on the story, it doesn't sound like Britain has a legal basis for doing this. The story stated that the law says that they can revoke the diplomatic status of an embassy if the power occupying it "ceases to use land for the purposes of its mission or exclusively for the purposes of a consular post." I don't see any report that Ecuador has done that. Granting political asylum to someone is clearly a diplomatic function.

Ecuador is a pimple on the butt of the free world; "serious diplomatic consequences"....really ?.....that right there is too funny.

Jimmy, you're trying to explain this concept to Unsane?

After reading his posts, good luck with that.

In the grand scheme of things, I think Brittain cares a lot more about what the United States and other European countries think of them than a small, relatively insignificant South American country.

If this were about any one random man accused of rape on suspicious grounds, no one would give a flying horse. Brittain would tell Ecuador, "If you want this lousy jerk, you can have him. He isn't worth our time."

However, this is Julian Assange, the man who SERIOUSLY embarassed the most powerful country in the world. Now Brittain is risking violation of a foreign power's sovereignty in order to retrieve this man. A whole bunch of people in the Pentagon and US intelligence community want this guy bad and are leaning on Brittain and Sweden to get him.

This is like something out of one of the Bourne movies.

The reason he doesn't want to go to Sweden is because Sweden has an extradition treaty w/ the US. If he goes to Sweden he will be sent here and never get a trail, just be held in a military prison and tortured for the rest of his life all for trying to expose corruption and illegal activities of our government and the banksters who own it.

Julian Assange is a HERO to anyone who values freedom, liberty, government transparency, free speech and/or justice.

Rapes, Murders, Theft, Wars, Assaults etc... happen all the time. What makes this different? It's the US pushing to get Assange because he published leaked and embarrassing communication from american diplomats. Obama's whitehouse leaks information and it's denied or excused... but the US will be hellbent on extracting revenge when their underhanded dealings are exposed to the world.

@drowning; The info leaked put alot of lives in danger,and the families that had nothing to with the "dirty laundry" that was aired.

The DOD admitted that the leaks put Afghan sources at risk, but didn't compromise overall national security. The people hurt most by Wikileaks were in Washington DC, occupying offices in and around DC and the Pentagon...

So if your for Assange you are for helping terrorist.

false moral equivalence. It may just be me, it would appear you like to be left in the dark, but I prefer it to know when my country is committing atrocious acts like gunning down journalists and civilians. Information about what your country's military is doing in your name is never a bad thing...

He had to know that he was'nt going to just get rich over all this, and it would blow over. Unless of course, he just does'nt have any common sence. Speaking of leaks, been reading about the one is Washington, that's another one that will come to the surface soon enough.

WILL

If the US wanted Assange so bad they would have had their own extradition order for him out of Britain in a heartbeat! It's easier for the US to extradite out of the UK than out of Sweden so this propaganda that the US is using Sweden is laughable. Even if Assange makes it to Ecuador he will no longer be allowed to travel the free world for the rest of his life. I wonder if he feels by excersizing his freedom to endanger military personnel through Wikileaks was worth it now?

My guess is that Argentina is licking their chops on this one. The minute Brittain breaches embassy grounds, look for them to re-invade the Falklands. These guys don't give a rats a@@ about Assange, they're looking for a show down with Brittain (the weakest of all the western countries).

The UK vs Ecuador and Argentina. Sounds like a pretty evenly matched fight. Not sure the Brittan has the stones to pull this kind of thing off anymore. They don't even have an aircraft carrier.

I suppose that unsane knows for a fact that the sex was consensual because he was standing right there as a witness.

They don't have to go into the embassy to arrest Assange all the have to do is wait and the minute he steps out he can and should be arrested. As long as he is on British soil and not in the embassy he can be detained.

Lets stop dancing around here the "crime" this man is wanted for questioning is the same as if someone In Philadelphia Put pretzels in a bag(which is a crime there). It's a strange never used law that to this point was likely never enforced.

This is a transparent attempt by the USA to get a hold of this guy so they can "make him pay". Stop pretending "rape charges" are anything but a cover. He may or may not of used a condom in conseneral sex with two woman.

Good. Continue to expose my country's dirty laundry Assange, I hope anonymous takes this opportunity to assault all the corrupt, and stake them in the sun so we can pick them apart.

We to havea part to play in this.

Pigotry

freedom even allows neo-nazi to parade, but not Assange?

That freedom is available in the US. Let him get his putrid ass over here if that is the kind of freedom he wants. Oh wait - he'd be tried and possibly hanged for treason in the US.

child like move by the U.K. ..it just made the Coconut King mad..so now he is going to give the hacker asylum ...

Some of you people don't seem to understand...this dispute is with Ecuador...who will align itself with about 80% of South America. These South American countries are looking for a showdown with a has been colonialist empire; the UK is serving right up to them. This will go very bad for Brittain - They will get Assange, but the damage to their image will be irrepairable.

In a fight of the UK vs Ecuador, Argentina, and Venezuela - the UK takes a butt whoopin.

Look to the Falklands if Brittain raids the Ecuadorian embassy.

My own wife would freak on me as I am sure others wives if I tried something like that.

My wife's OK with it.

I like my women awake and present thank you very much.

So your wife lets you have other women then?

Neo - the crime this man is wanted for is called rape, comparing that to putting pretzels in a paper bag is asinine and a slap in the face to rape victims everywhere.

So many people here claim he is a hero and that charges are bogus, if that is the case, why won't he face those charges? If he is innocent, why run? Really, he's quite the opposite of "hero"....he's only proving what a coward he is and always was.

neoatg

Can you not tell the difference between Sweden & the US? If the US wanted Assange as you fantasize, they would have had their own extradition order in a heartbeat from the UK as it is FAR easier for them to extradite from there than trying to extradite from his native country Sweden, native countries as a common rule will not extradite their own citizens to foreign countries. Do you now understand just how ridiculous you sound?

Colorado man you can not try him for treason because he is not a citizen of the US.

@ swan; Yes your wife is one thing,to do it to a one night stand you just met is another. My point is most of the time this is not proper. If you know this is o.k with your wife then that is fine, but I believe most women would not like to be waken this way.

I should have said " I like my woman"(not women lol) awake and present.lol I have been with th same one 22 yrs.lol

If the city of NY can tell people that they can't buy a big soda, then the govt should be able to simply shut down wikileaks in the US. BS? Yes, but that is the double standard that this country has come to when we are run by a bunch of crooks that the moronic public keep voting in.

Neo - the crime this man is wanted for is called rape,

Yeah rape. Like two women apparently agree to sleep with him the first day they meet him. They later decide they want him to get an HIV test and go the the police to ask if they can make him take one. This gets blown up all the way to an extradition order for questioning about the incident. Note he hasn't even been charged with anything yet. It's not like he broke in a window and forcibly raped two women (how would he even rape two at one time). It's also not like they ran to the police and accused him of rape after it happened. This whole thing is just a ruse for the stupid flag wavers to buy into.

Assange stuck a thorn in the Alliance's paw...that tickles me a bit. If I were Equador, and they invaded my embassy, I would round up all UK citizens in my country and detain them until such a time as to determine if they pose a threat. Britain has become the yappy lapdog of a certain decaying world power.

My next vacation will be in Ecuador - it is a country definitely worth supporting!

Big BRAVO! for President Correra! A statesman with real balls!

Not running
He is not going by free will as Sweden have not guaranteed that he will be free to leave after questing.

As they have refused to questing him at his location, it seems like they are up to something.
Though Sweden is not that Pro-USA for the last 10 years, maybe someone high up have been offered a bounty.

I think that what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote the 1st Ammendment was being able to get up in the public square and call the President names, or complain about taxes, not give away information that could endanger the security of this nation. I rather think that they would all call that TREASON!

Julian Assange is nothing more than a traitor! Being holed up in a third world piss-ant poverty stricken, high on coca country for the rest of his life might be just the right punishment for his crimes.

While I am on the topic of the 1st Ammendment, it doesn't condone poor, un-proof read articles, especially from a company as presdigeous as NBC. See the third paragraph down.

"Britain earlier said it would it would revoke the diplomatic..."

Duh!!! Stuttering is perfectly acceptable, just not in print.

Enjoy your day

Tbenton - Refried beans? No. Not all people who speak the same language eat the same food. Modern Ecuadorian cuisine favors white beans from the Italian influence of Italy's military training assistance in Ecuador throughout the early years of the twentieth century.

"Judicial evidence clearly demonstrates that given an extradition to the United States of America, Mr. Assange would not have a fair trial, he could be judged by special or military courts, and it is not unlikely to believe he would be treated in a cruel and degrading way, that he would receive a life sentence or death penalty, with which his human rights would not be respected," Patino said.

But the UK wants to send him to SWEDEN, not the USA.

The rape charges only came up when he thumbed his nose at the USA. These charges are the result of the USA's power and influence. This is a text book setup. Only a moron would go face these charges since they were created by corruption you know that there will be no fair trial. I'm surprised that they went through all this trouble. Most of the time with someone like this he would have been the victim of a mugging gone wrong. But maybe he was too careful for that. Given the power of his enemies I wouldn't trust Ecuador either The USA has a lot of contacts in central America. If he goes there he better stay off the streets or he'll be dead.

Kevin - right after Bush, Cheney and other US neocons stand trial for war crimes in Iraq in which half a million of civilians lost their lives, we should try Assange for having sex without a condom.

Sweden, then the USA.

Julian Assange is a HERO to anyone who values freedom, liberty, government transparency, free speech and/or justice.

Except to the women who say he raped them. Far from a hero to them...

Swan - so typical, like many here in the US, blaming the rape victim and siding with the rapist. That is exactly why so many women do not immediately run to authorities, this backwards culture of disbelief or "she was asking for it." Your definition of rape and your account of what took place is irrelevant. What matters here are the women he violated and the laws of the country where said violation took place. The fact that he flees is very telling...

"..a relatively insignificant country" rich in natural resources like rubber, copper. bauxite, uranium, gold, silver, platinum and ,who knows, oil. the same is true of Ecuador's insignificant neighbors. there is a reason the USA is eager to forge trade agreements in South America. is Julian Assange really worth losing access to this wealth? what the hell is really going on?

Bush and Cheney are careful not to leave US controlled territory.

Assange is a piece of child molesting filth

wait wait wait. He's a "child molester" now? I thought his accuser was 33 years old?

Seperate issues here:

1) "Free speech" is false argument, you can't give out someone else's bank account info and passwords under the protection of free speech.

2) Revoking embassy's diplomatic status is a bit far, and unneccesary.

3) Whether or not he has committed a sex crime is for Sweedish courts to decide. Ecuador needs to respect their process, whether or not she agrees with it.

I hope they arrest his ass as soon as he steps foot out of that building! He is a traitor to American Security....hang his stupid butt on the court square...he deserves no less. If he is innocent then he should go to Sweden and answer the questions, thus clearing himself. He is nothing more than a little coward bitch hiding in a corner. Lame sob, nothing but a wussy.

ClownsWillKillYou: Seriously, you posted "rumors don't just come out of baseless thin air" NOW THAT IS FUNNY. There is more that comes out of baseless thin air than not. That is just how life is today. Because some one says it, it must be true. LOL

Assange is a coward. He had no problem putting other people in danger, both in Sweden and in the US. But now that he's been caught, he's trying to hide under the skirts of Ecuador. I say let him stay at the Embassy, but cut off all supplies and utilities until he flees from there. They can have their soverign ground, doesn't mean we need to supply that ground.

"Judicial evidence clearly demonstrates that given an extradition to the United States of America, Mr. Assange would not have a fair trial, he could be judged by special or military courts, and it is not unlikely to believe he would be treated in a cruel and degrading way, that he would receive a life sentence or death penalty, with which his human rights would not be respected," Patino said.

Who made Patino an expert on the US judicial system? More feel good (cry baby) clap trap... If there is "judicial evidence," put up or shut up.. Assange has been accused of multiple crimes and is subject to the same due process everyone else is. He is not above the law.

Britain will not just let this go. They are unlikely to immediately invade the embassy, but they could force it to shut down by various other means.

If Julian Assange is such a brave "journalist" battling against the forces of evil corrupt world governments, why doesn't he stand trial. IMO, its because he is a coward who rapes women and then goes and hides.

They say, and I don't know for sure, but that Sweden would just turn him over to the U.S. Just saying and I just wanted to ask...have you taken a look at this Assange fellow, did someone hold down those two heffers for him to dwidle them. Surely he must be a mightyman incognito.

Yes, this is so stupid, I can not wait to see when we are looking for countries to hide the millions of unprotected sex done by USA soldiers just in Vietnam causing 600,000 babies, that nobody wanted--- I mean you dish here on just one "offender" just possibly you should take a real look in the mirror and shut up--- Never mind Iraq and Afghanistan-----

He likes to pull back the curtain, and we can't have that. If the American people realized how things truly are, there could be problems...best to keep a lid on it until they can have their "liberty's teeth" pulled.

".......and I heard he was a dirty jew."

If Julian Assange is such a brave "journalist" battling against the forces of evil corrupt world governments, why doesn't he stand trial. IMO, its because he is a coward who rapes women and then goes and hides.

He already did "stand trial" once, well it never went to court, the charges were dismissed within 24 hours.

About a month later, while he was already in the UK (he never "ran" there to flee Sweden), new charges were filed by a special prosecutor specifically assigned to look into these rape charges against Assange (because special prosecutors are often assigned to look into a month-old case of a broken condom, yeah sure, that's totally typical).

His hideous, perverted, disgusting crime committed in Sweden; he had sex (consenual) with a girl , not his wife, without using a condom, horrible perverted individual.

No top secret information was released, only classified, the water-boarding that was being covered up, was first released by him; as for the Gay private , held in solitary confinement, does any one believe a PFC>< would have access to that much dept. of Justice it was over 5 years, before had clearance to see certain files.

What ever Assange has done he has to live with

What I don't like is that the governments of today seem to put a stamp of secrecy on EVERYTHING.

And that is something that I don't like. Too many illicit and crooked schemes by our goverments. Like fabricating illigal wars and invasions and the like.

On top of that I do declare that the vast majority of our goverments are lying thieving scum bags.

We need more Assanges to reveal what out goverments are doing.

Note to every moron here calling Assange a "traitor" or that he's committed "treason":

Assange is not a US citizen. You can't be a 'traitor' to the US if you aren't a US citizen. You cannot commit 'treason' against another country, only your own.

However, feel free to accuse any US citizen involved in helping Assange or Wikileaks a 'traitor'.

@ zuksam;

The rape charges only came up when he thumbed his nose at the USA

Umm no they come from him bringing two women home for a one night stand, and then allegedly trying or succeeding at penetrating one of them unprotected while she slept. When you have no morals yourself, you really should not try to throw others under the bus for what you concieve as lack of theirs.

Very hypocritical.

His hideous, perverted, disgusting crime committed in Sweden; he had sex (consenual) with a girl , not his wife, without using a condom, horrible perverted individual.

actually, correction. He DID use a condom, it broke, and she claimed (four days later, after finding out he had slept with another woman) that he broke it on purpose and that constitutes "rape."

In all actuality, he already had rape allegations against him even before he tried to capitalize off the records he had brain washed some of his stoolies steal.

The UK had already told Ecuador that they intended to arrest him the second he set foot outside the embassy so it is not an affront to Ecuadorian sovereignity that they arrest him now. Even if they should promote him to a position of diplomat, his crimes committed would not be covered by diplomatic asylum as they were committed prior to Ecuadorian protection. They now need to play James Bond and find a way to sneak him out of the country and then be bold enough to brag about it afterwards.

Swan - so typical, like many here in the US, blaming the rape victim and siding with the rapist.

So typical of so many women in the US, thinking the man accused of rape is always guilty. I notice you didn't actually respond to any of the facts posted. You just posted a general diatribe. HE HASN'T EVEN BEEN CHARGED WITH RAPE. But don't let that bother you. Just keep on posting BS.

Shut down the power supply and communications , food and water supplies to and from the building. Shouldn't be too long before Ecuador has a change of heart.

Assange is a piece of crap and needs ot fac e his charges. At this point his ego is being fed with all the renewed attention he is gwetting. His arrogance only only make me believe the rape charges are true and he should not be messing with classified information of a country other than his own.

JONEDEP, you don't know what you are talking about. The British have a formidable military talk to any US soldier that fought with them

"...which would force us to respond in the strongest diplomatic way," Patino told reporters."

Like what, refuse to have lunch with 'em? Not return their phone calls? Issue a strongly-worded press release?

Assange is a criminal and deserves prison for multiple reasons. I don't care what the UK has to do in order to facilitate that and I don't care where the prison is located. He's a smirking, dangerous fool who needs to pay for what he's done. That's all there is to it.

Umm no they come from him bringing two women home for a one night stand, and then allegedly trying or succeeding at penetrating one of them unprotected while she slept. When you have no morals yourself, you really should not try to throw others under the bus for what you concieve as lack of theirs.

First off they he had sex with the two women three days apart. Seondly no arrest was issued until three days after the last one. Repotedly the women talked to each other between that time. Since then warrents have been dropped refiled and investigations closed and reopned. It sounds like a lot of hogwash.

HE HASN'T EVEN BEEN CHARGED WITH RAPE. But don't let that bother you. Just keep on posting BS.

You're perfectly right, which makes it even more ridiculous that he won't come in for questioning. He hasn't been charged, yet he won't answer to simple questioning. I wonder, if you're daughter, sister, mother or anyone else alleged a similar thing, would you defend that man with the same vigor? After all, it's only your sister/mother/daughter's word against a guys...

If this were about any one random man accused of rape on suspicious grounds, no one would give a flying horse. Brittain would tell Ecuador ....

If this were about any one random man, there would be no rape accusation.

Ummm Swan it's entirely possible for a man to rape two women at once...it's happened often in the past. Make sure if you bring up an argument... it's a plausible one.

You're perfectly right, which makes it even more ridiculous that he won't come in for questioning

More hogwash. He's been questioned in Sweden already. He has agreed to additional questioning in the Ecuadorian embassy. Sweden has refused.

Ummm Swan it's entirely possible for a man to rape two women at once...

Tell me another. With no gun and now I read it was three days appart anyway.

More hogwash. He's been questioned in Sweden already. He has agreed to additional questioning in the Ecuadorian embassy. Sweden has refused.

So when you're accused of rape you get to choose where and when the authorities get to interview you?

You're perfectly right, which makes it even more ridiculous that he won't come in for questioning. He hasn't been charged, yet he won't answer to simple questioning.

Because this isn't about any rape and everyone knows it

I wonder, if you're daughter, sister, mother or anyone else alleged a similar thing, would you defend that man with the same vigor? After all, it's only your sister/mother/daughter's word against a guys...

Oh that siste/mother/daughter line... My s/m/d would not go after a famous man with a trap..., I hope

It's amazing to me... listening to all these people tell different versions of this "rape"... some say both girls wanted to have sex with him...some say they didn't.. some say he didn't use a condom...some say he did but intentionally broke it... some say they were asleep...some say they were awake... wtf...do you guys just pull this stuff out of your asses or do you just come up with something that goes with what you believe? Can anyone actually give a link that states exactly WHAT he is accused of??? So I guess I'll be the only responsible person here and give a link to an article that tells you EXACTLY what was said by these women... geeesh i swear some guys think they can just say anything and it's fact.

Now try reading some actual facts ....both sides...not just one.....instead of just repeating what you may have heard on some obviously prejudiced blog.

@swan;

First off they he had sex with the two women three days apart.

Okay, my post still stands correct. Still two women, one allegation, both one night stands. Wow 3 days apart? He is even more of a sleezeball than I thought, womanizing ,philander.

So when you're accused of rape you get to choose where and when the authorities get to interview you?

When you are worried about extradition to the US for espionage, yes you do. If Sweden really just wanted to talk to him they could do it. If there was really any rape he would have been arrested long ago before he left Sweden. If you are raped, you don't go the the police and ask if you can make your rapist take an HIV test and then later try to file rape changes. You don't wait six days or three days before going to the police to begin with. Yes maybe there is always a chance these things could happen, but from where it stands now I put the likely hood that he's just been railroaded about 100 times higher than the chance that he raped anyone.

Swan I never said that HE raped two women at once... I said that your argument...that a man CAN'T rape two women at once is flawed. It's happened and probably will happen again.

John Browning, Assange claimed it was a Jewish conspiracy to get him not that he was Jewish

I think the British government is overstepping boundaries here, but who am I?

However, I do love how he's a "hero" to most of the same people that are always blaming everything on large corporations. Wikileaks notwithstanding, you realize that he's a "1 percenter" and basically just uses people to get what he wants, throws them aside, and laughs all the way to the bank, right? He's the same corporate piece of crap they always whine about in the US. But now, since he paid people to get some info (that he's letting rot in jail right now while he's running away) and he profited from it, he's now a hero... interesting...

I find it sadly funny that people so willingly call Assange a "piece of crap" because he leaked secret information that embarrasses the U.S., yet they seem perfectly fine with the information that was leaked. The sound you hear is not drums in the distance, but rather the muffled thuds of chests being beaten by your friends and neighbors in the name of patriotism.

The best thing that could happen would be for all information to be revealed. Perhaps then we would see who the real traitors and "pieces of crap" are.

but from where it stands now I put the likely hood that he's just been railroaded about 100 times higher than the chance that he raped anyone.

Shouldn't Wikileaks be the exact organization that should be outing this "railroading"? Why aren't they?

And from that post you basically said "Everything he's accused of could have happened. But I personally don't think it did." Very good reason to not answer to a rape charge. I think every rapist in the US is gonna use your debate skills...

He is even more of a sleezeball than I thought, womanizing ,philander.

First off it takes two to tango. That makes the women sleazeballs too in your book. Secondly even if we agree to your characterization, being a womanizing philander is not a crime.

I agree djh...I read posts by people like swan and I think...Geez this guy is like a god to some of the guys... they just about fall at his feet to worship him and throw themselves on a sword for him...and none of them see the fact that he just uses people left and right. He spouts his crap... he has OTHER people release information and get in trouble...and he just sits back.. having sex with random women.. being put up... i'm sure without having to pay a cent of his own money...by some country who he has nothing to do with....he just sits back and relaxes while everyone else does all the work... gets in trouble... defends his right to be a rich, untouchable @!$%#.........it's amazing to me.... people like swan must live very empty, sad lives to spend their time defending someone like him.

Very good reason to not answer to a rape charge

He's answered it MANY times already. At this point it's just harassment. But I guess you think the govement is aways right no matter what.

people like swan must live very empty, sad lives to spend their time defending someone like him.

You're just jealous cuz I'm kicking all you asses, LOL!

Jonedep,

First, the UK still has a very strong military. Even if its not as strong as other European countries, its still stonger than any South American country. But even if they didnt have one, they happen to be bff's with the most powerful country in the world. No one is going to mess with the UK because they will have the US raining fire down upon them.

Now try reading some actual facts ....

OK, I'm off to WikiLeaks...

Swan37, starting with your own

No one is going to mess with the UK because they will have the US raining fire down upon them.

Like we rained fire on Argentina in 1982! Yaeahhhh we showed them!!!!! ...... oh wait never happened...

Honest question...if this is all trumped up and it is as obvious as some people here say, why hasn't wikileaks investigated and found proof? Isn't the point of wikileaks to out corruption, injustice and lies of government? Wouldn't this "lie" of a rape charge be a pretty big deal and prove his importance?

If Wikileaks can get classified documents from the US military, why can't they get any proof of injustice here? If the conspiracy is as big as it would have to be, wouldn't there be a paper trail that wikileaks could get their hands on?

If Wikileaks can get classified documents from the US military, why can't they get any proof of injustice here?

Yeah and they never found Jimmy Hoffa either.

Another meaningless response from Swan. Thanks...I think at least one is required on this thread every 5 minutes.

I don't see how you've "kicked my ass" swan. First of all I haven't taken any sides in this. I have no opinion as to if he's guilty or innocent in regards to these "rapes". I, unlike most other people here, admit that I don't know the facts.... so I don't know if he's guilty or innocent. All I've said is that 1. It is possible for a man to rape two women (so, if we're talking ass kicking, I kicked your ass in that regard). 2. That everyone is spouting their "opinions" whereas I just posted a link with the actual "facts". So, no ass kicking from you going on here swan. But I must say you must have a LOT of time on your hands to spend so much of it defending a guy who doesn't give a damn about you.

If this weasel opened his big mouth about one of the drug cartels, then who would protect him? When you say something against a dangerous major power then you should be prepared to take some lumps. Fair or unfair, that's just the way it is.

I think at least one is required on this thread every 5 minutes

I have to keep up with you, and in any case I'm not sure how to respond to someone who thinks that an organization that discloses some secret information necessarily has access to all information that ever was.

But I must say you must have a LOT of time on your hands to spend so much of it defending a guy who doesn't give a damn about you.

How do you know? maybe he's my best buddy. And you must have a LOT of time on your hands to sit here arguing with me

I have to keep up with you, and in any case I'm not sure how to respond to someone who thinks that an organization that discloses some secret information necessarily has access to all information that ever was.

In "keeping up with me", you've at least doubled my total post count, not answered any question i've asked and responded repeatedly with "He answered questions already" And "The charges are trumped" giving no factual information or links or context for your claims other than "I think it's 100 times more likely he's being railroaded than actually raping anyone. "

And I never said they have access to all information there ever was, that's another example of you sidestepping a question instead of actually defending what you believe.

All I'm asking is why an organization that can get classified documents from the US military can't find any amount of physical evidence whatsoever to even hint that the charges against its founder are being unfairly created.

Swan

It's not like he broke in a window and forcibly raped two women

You must be a fun date if this above is your ONLY definition of a sexual assault crime!

Your name belongs on a list somewhere I'm sure!

wlee.............that was just a reference to 1930-40's Europe, where people were labeled jews, enemies of the people, so it was easier to detain them without due process...and then kill them.

.....but I hear this guy is a neo-nadd-see child raping traitor with ties to whatever boogeyman is popular today....so why not kill him. I believe I saw his picture at the Hate Week event yesterday.

Hello folks, it is nice to see that some people and countries respect and advocate for the truth. I think most Americans want to see the truth and a reinstatement of our constitution and civil liberties. Assange is a hero of the people! The sheeple will believe and do whatever they are told. Once it is reported that their is a suppository bomber the sheeple will gladly bend over at the airports and public places.

We are all Assange! If an idiot government wants to make a martyr out of Assange they will truly suffer the wrath of the awakened global community!

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The reason he doesn't want to go to Sweden is because Sweden has an extradition treaty w/ the US. If he goes to Sweden he will be sent here and never get a trail

This pretty well sums up the nonsensical excuses put forward by those people supporting Assange. Do you seriously think that the UK doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US? If the US wanted him they could get him from the UK just as easily, and probably much more so, as they could from Sweden. Duh

TV

Where does hiding bring out the truth? Assange is a hypocrite, as he has no want of the truth when it affects himself.

John Browning , if your second comment was to me , where did I say any of that. I was just clearing up what I thought you were implying

Only the elite should have the truth. little peons like us are supposed to be in the dark. Whats wrong with you guy??, are u thinking "truth justice and the American way?" it's a fantasy, lol, I'll bet you believe in genie's and magic lamps too. lol YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS. get over it. Why? u ask? because the rich are unified and the masses are polarized. Guess who insures that we remain polarized. tick tock tick tock....times up. if your haven't figured it out by now, you never will.

"The United Kingdom does not accept the principle of diplomatic asylum."

However, Alexander Valterovich Litvinenko fled Russia with his family to London and was granted asylum in the United Kingdom.

There are also several British NGO in Moscow and other Russian cities meddling in Russian internal affairs in the name of democracy.

Any actions by the UK or US to either storm the embassy, revoke diplomatic status, or cut vital services to it would be considered an act of war against the nation that occupied that embassy as well as a serious breach of international treaties and met by challenges by the world court under international law.

Assange isn't worth the UK and/or US going against it's system of values and effectively saying that we only respect justice and laws when it suits us and can just ignore them when it doesn't.

I wonder how many countries would come to Equador's assistance, but I wouldn't rule out Russia, China, and many others in Asia, Africa, and South America. I know that doesn't phase most of the people on this board, but maybe embargoes and sanctions against US exports might as well as blocking of imports of grain, rare earth metals, and other goods and services we need.

Not to mention, pissing off Anonymous could cause such havoc on the internet that businesses and municipalities could face complete shutdowns and sabotage. Is going after this one guy and making him a martyr really worth the cost?

Well... I admit I am not very computer savy,but I've been looking since last night to find any info that he leaked that showed that my countrys gov't (the U.S.)was doing anything deemed a violation of U.S.law.

I havent chosen a side or even formed an opinion on his innocence or guilt. but if someone could post a link to help me find any good he did against my gov't I would appreciate it.

I think that my gov't has way to much power to enforce any law they see fit without the approval of its citizens. And if he exposed something other than gov't secrets that my gov't needs to have to obtain security from terrorists and foriegn gov'ts(allies or not) then he did some good and I would like to know about it. Or did he just publish clssified communications to prove he could.

I just cant find it anywhere for myself and I'm tired of looking.I would really like to see the SPECIFIC documents he leaked that prove my gov't was breaking the law or violating someones(and by someone I mean a US citizen) civil rights.

UK government = whores of the NWO

You must be a fun date.

Your wife thought so.

He reminds me of Dr. Evil but with hair

@Coral Taxi

As far as the rape charges one should not think that he can have a women while she is sleeping.

Most humans would not sleep thorough a rape. Unless they both had a medical condition such as narcolepsy.

He did not even know these women but for a short period,like hours I believe.

So, wtf were they doing with him a private place with a stranger?

My own wife would freak on me as I am sure others wives if I tried something like that.

Then, you probably haven't been married for long enough. ;)

I like my women awake and present thank you very much.

Nice to hear about your open-marriage arrangements.

That way you can get a yes or a no. I know I would not like to wake up with someones hoo hoo in my hoe hoe.lol

Can't say you don't like it until you try it. :)

Assange should go to Sweden and submit to the questioning. If he is innocent he has nothing to fear, if he is guilty than he will be tried and convicted to serve whatever the law allows. Great Britain has already said that it would not allow an extradition attempt by the US. Part of granting Sweden's request was the stipulation that they have a say in whether Assange can be extradited from Sweden to the US. This is only another grandstand play to keep Assange relevant in the media. If the US really wanted him dead, Assange would have committed suicide or had an accident by now. He has been exposed as the sniveling self centered weasel that he really is, so really he is not that important anymore. Besides, what makes him think that Ecuador is any safer than the UK or Sweden? We do have special ops troops scattered through south america after all.

@archangel 3:16

Assange should go to Sweden and submit to the questioning. If he is innocent he has nothing to fear, if he is guilty than he will be tried and convicted to serve whatever the law allows.

Assange has said repetitively that as long as Sweden doesn't surrender him in an extradition to the US, he would be glad to submit for questioning. Also, Sweden has refused to question him at his current location.

Great Britain has already said that it would not allow an extradition attempt by the US. Part of granting Sweden's request was the stipulation that they have a say in whether Assange can be extradited from Sweden to the US.

No true. Otherwise, why are human right's NGOs clamouring to Sweden to promise safe passage? ~

If the US really wanted him dead, Assange would have committed suicide or had an accident by now.

How long did it take for Osama to commit suicide? ;)

Yeah, yeah.....this is "all about the rape charge in Sweden."

Rapists are the lowest kind of life form, but let's not be silly and pretend we believe that's what this is all about, especially when the interested governments participate in disgusting shenanigans that make Assange look like a boy scout.

"It's important to understand that this is not about Mr. Assange's activities at WikiLeaks, or the attitude of the United States of America," he said. "He is wanted in Sweden to answer allegations of serious sexual offenses."

Can't any government speak the truth?

Trust . . Since when is Assange "the people's hero"?? And I certainly hope he is not "all of us".

Swan:

When you are worried about extradition to the US for espionage,

You know little about extraditions, if the US wanted him they would already have an extradition order with the UK, because from there it is easy. If Assange was actually worried about the US he wouldn't have gone to the UK. Extraditing for a crime is not easy nor common from a native country especially if an arrest warrant is not issued yet; see how ridiculous your US extradition fantasy sounds? Its laughable! You must believe everything is a conspiracy, if the US really wanted him they would have snagged him before he even reached the UK. By the way Swan, I'm gay so I hope you enjoyed raping my partner :-)

I really can't figure out if some of you are ignorant, just want to argue, or are so self-centric that you can't see any side of an issue other then what the media feeds you. If you replaced United States and England in this scenario with China and Iran you all would be calling this guy a hero and KNOW that if he was extradited he would not receive a fair trial. Every part of this is an obvious ploy to get him sent to the U.S. where we will put him on "trial" for his actions (which again if he had done the same thing to China or Iran we would call him a hero). I'm not saying what the guy did was right, but would we send someone to China or Cuba if they released "secret" documents about those countries? We provide sanctuary for people who violate those countries laws, and yet we scream when someone does that to us? Doesn't that seem like the thought process of a child?

Take a minute, take a deep breath and stop and think about this situation. Can you see why other countries think we are arrogant bullies? WE can do things that we call them evil for doing... because, well, we're America!

Futureshock . . I am less concerned in my post about his position on releasing documents than the allegations he raped two women and refuses to face those charges. Perhaps the scenario questions you pose are correct and he should simply be turned over to Hilliary. She can likely handle him.

Hello Truth&Logic and K.Truant. Why don't you guys do the research before you spout the presstitutes propaganda. The American government is butt hurt because Wikileaks showed the world we are nothing but terrorists and imperialistic thugs. Truth hurts doesn't it?

Let's be clear, Assange is not a fugitive from justice. He has not been charged with any crime in any country. He has not raped any women. There are no indictments pending in any court, and as no charges have been brought against him, there is no validity to the Swedish extradition request. It is not normal for people to be extradited for questioning, especially when, as in Assange's case, he expressed his complete cooperation with being questioned a second time by Swedish officials in London.

What is this all about? First, according to news reports, Assange was picked up by two celebrity-hunting Swedish women who took him home to their beds. Later for reasons unknown, one complained that he had not used a condom, and the other complained that she had offered one helping, but he had taken two. A Swedish prosecutor looked into the case, found that there was nothing to it, and dismissed the case.

Once again do the research before you indict a man who hasn't been indicted by any legal authority.

America land of the free dictator to the rest of the world!

Sadly your correct about all of it TrustVerify , problem is when people in the US hear the word "rape" it brings a feeling of hatred even though what they call "rape" in sweden isn't even a crime in the vast majority of countries in the world including the US .

How many times have the people on this board wanting him crucified had random sex without a condom ? I would bet plenty so they should all be locked up for 2 years for each occurrence right ? Personally I think the women should be locked up for the same amount of time , if he has to go down so should they after all they could just as easily bring a female condom instead .

Sex-crime allegations are always shaky, but that's not what the whole mess is about, is it?

The guy is running, which means that he either not sure of his own innocence, or (and more likely) does not expect the court to be objective.

Indeed, the court is not going to be objective, because whatever he is accused of, the government is after his neck for another reason.

But on the other hand, as a reporter, in his own turn, was Assange objective? I know we wont all agree on this, but in my humble opinion, the answer is "no".

From what I've seen of his work, he was not a reporter on a quest for the truth, he was on a quest to spill some dirt on the Western governments and did not mind playing in the terrorists in the process.

He was playing by the rules, but he was playing the system with intent to hurt specific people.

Well, now those people have taken him on in his own game. They are playing the system against him in exact same way he played it against them, and they too are playing by the rules.

Is the government innocent in this? No.

Are they doing the right thing? No.

But do I see any reason to feel sympathy for Assange in all this? No.

He made his own bed, and now he will have to lie in it.

Hello Eli100, the truth of the matter is this has zero to do with the sexual allegations and everything to do with the U.S. wanting him in Sweden so that they can extradite him to the U.S.

Assange, realizing that the Swedish government was going to turn him over to Washington to be held in indefinite detention, tortured, and framed as a spy, sought protection from the Ecuadorean Embassy in London. As corrupt as the British are, the UK government was unwilling to release Assange directly to Washington. By turning him over to Sweden, the British could feel that their hands were clean.

Oh, Boo hoo hoo . . Poor little Julian!! Take a look at President Correa . . Assange doesn't think he will be sold out a few years down the line when the price is right??

Isn't it better for him to solve these problems in his own country? if the Swedish Prosecutor dismissed the charges why do the Swedes even want him? His good looks and fantastic genes? Even the U.S. State department has no comment; apparently Hillary isn't even interested!

This is for unsane and jared.

Did either of you remember of forget the Iran hostage crisis. In Nov 1979 Iran declared war on the US when they invaded our embassy and killed marines. What did the peanut farmer do? Not a frickin thing. We are still within our rights to bomb the hell out of that country according top Geneva Convention.

Actually we tried a rescue attempt in 1980, but a sandstorm ruined the operation. We didn't invade Iran, instead we armed Iraq (and Saddam Hussein) and let them go to war with Iran. Of course, that kinda turned and bit us in the ass.

The UK needs to do to Ecuador what they did to Argentina a few years ago.
Kick Butt!!!!!!

@Futureshock2012

If you replaced United States and England in this scenario with China and Iran you all would be calling this guy a hero

Newsflash- The US and UK are NOT China and Iran. The comparison is so ludicrous that it completely invalidates whatever point you were attempting to make.

Let him go to Ecuador, then sent in Seal Team Six to extract his ass...

to bad they were not so hot to get their buddies in the government and the ones that have taken innocent lives and the one who invaded Iraq for weapons never found sounds like terrorist activity and they are worried about this guy the world will go around with out them getting him hes being framed anyway

Seal Team Six cant be sent in, they have all been assasinated by the U.S. for wanting to go public about what and who was really extracted when going in for Oba sorry I mean Osama

Even if the NWO mercenaries manage to silence him, I hope others will continue to expose the dirty machinations of the ruling elites.

tz-3189354..while both of them were sleeping? everything i have read about this case seems implausible. it is a time honored tactic for the US to destroy or derail someones reputation by calling into question that persons sexual conduct. and why not? it always works.

Since when is 15 a "crowd?" Fifteen is just a party in most places! If that is all the supporters he can muster, this will all dry up and blow away shortly. Then Ecuador will get tired of supporting the freeloader and kick him out, whereupon the police will arrest the fool and send him back to Sweden and, possibly, the United States.

there were hundreds of people there protesting... maybe thousands... I watched the livestream. American Media blatantly lies about what happens around the world. You must rely on livestreams to get a real sense of what's happening. All of the information posted on mainstream US sites is pure propaganda.

"The political asylum is one of the human rights affirmed by Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and a rules of international human rights law. All countries who have agreed to the United Nations Conventions Relating to the Status of Refugees must let people, who do qualify, come into their country."

Wiki .

Lol!

How cute. An American Exceptionalist who hasn't picked up a newspaper lately.

Ecuador's Correa, along with Bolivia's Morales and Venezuela's Chavez, have ushered in a new era in South America. For decades (since Pinochet's US-backed coup over Allende in 1972), multinational corporations have exploited the hell out of the resources and people of South America. Now, several countries have taken a strong swing to the left, nationalizing utilities and kicking out multinationals, and have seen marked improvements in economics, education, health, etc.

There is a world outside the United States, and it's not all adobo huts like most Americans believe.

Alan Pugh - So you polled "most" Americans? How cute.. you speak truthful but lost the impact when you make childish remarks like that...

Assange Vive! Carajo!

What on earth are the powers that be in Ecuador thinking of???

Hey pointless.....oh wait I got it now....you stated it all in your nom de plume.

Pointless, perhaps "many Americans" would have been a better choice of words. Too late to edit now.

Gee all you America haters and yet you live here, if we're so horrible why do you stay? Pugh so Ecuador has gone left what's your point, they are still a speck on the planet. Correa has aligned himself with Chavez, Cuba and Iran great choices. He might have helped his people, but one has to wonder about his choice in friends

Alan, you like like your typical liberal Pu$$y, thinks hes smarter than everybody, enjoys the perks and privileges he has in America, but yet he trashes it, and is angry he can not find a job because he spent a butt load of money for a liberal arts degree!

Gee, look at who his friends are! Chavez can hardly stand to be in the same room with a Norte Americano. More liberal garbage! Just nationalize everything; then we won't have to worry about how much anyone makes (or pays in taxes) because nobody will own anything.

typical liberal Pu$$y, thinks hes smarter than everybody, is angry he can not find a job because he spent a butt load of money for a liberal arts degree!

AL, what you're doing is called an ad hominem attack. It's a common fallback when someone doesn't have a valid argument. However, here you go, point by point:

typical liberal Pu$$y

A proud member of the Socialist Equality Party, but also quite pro-life and pro-death penalty, which I hear aren't "liberal" stances. I don't follow party lines because both major parties in this country are a joke.

thinks hes smarter than everybody

I learn more every day, and yet I've barely begun. "Smart" isn't a competition. Nobody cares where you place compared to others. Knowledge isn't something to brag about, it's something to use to improve the world for yourself and those around you. In time, I hope to have a net positive impact on this world, no matter how small.

enjoys the perks and privileges he has in America

I can't disagree with you there. There are some perks to living here, just as there are in any country.

but yet he trashes it

Supporting transparency of government is not "trashing America." That's ludicrous. The baseline measurement of freedom is a transparent government. It's the very definition of what America is supposed to stand for.

and is angry he can not find a job

LOL. Let's compare paychecks, AL. In the past seventeen years, I was unemployed once for about six weeks. I have been with the same company for over eight years and am doing quite well for myself.

because he spent a butt load of money for a liberal arts degree!

I spent zero dollars on the Associate's I got in Electrical Engineering, Computer Maintenance and Networking several years back for fun because I was reimbursed by my employer and I chose a small community college near my home where tuition was very reasonable.

Any other questions completely unrelated to the article, AL?

Pugh,

Nice novel. LMFAO! Al whupped up on ya. Just accept it. No need to bore everyone with your communist views.

Hey, look... another person not talking about the article!

@Bobster

I actually find Alan's views interesting. AL, please explain to me why a liberal arts degree is a bad thing (let me help you; it's actually not a bad thing, but society is crazy and tells you that it is...and you believe that)? And Bobster, please explain to me why being smart is a bad thing?

@wlee

We stay because we can fix America.

!No hablas engles ni espanol bien!

What?

Shouldn't you be in line to work legally?

Wow, now just simply speaking Spanish means you are an illegal immigrant. Facemouth, you've set the new standard. Didn't know it could go any lower. Con permiso Dianarose. Facemouth no hable por todos los Americanos.

BTW - 100% white here, born in the USA and working legally since I was 15. And though I don't understand Diana's entire post, I understand it enough to know that she is condemning the Ecuadorian president and government (as well as those of most of Latin America) and she is defending the US. So which side do you want her on?

So which side do you want her on?

The side of humanity and justice. When the US is not on that side, it has lost its bearings and becomes unsupportable. America: Love it or Leave it? I don't think so. It should always be America: Love it and Guard its principles.

America: Love it or Leave it? I don't think so. It should always be America: Love it and Guard its principles.

^this.

Blind, jingoistic nationalism is most certainly NOT patriotism...

" If not why they go to live in Europe and specially to United States of America because they have extreme poverty.

Sorry but we have taken on more people than we can handle, the united states is turning into a third world country with all the poverty and crime we have.... Once immigrants realize that US of A is no place to follow your dreams then we can start to rebuild and prosper and then it will happen all over again... And I could care less what color you are but what is still so great about the USA there is nothing here any more we are so over populated and over spent that we are heading towards a third world country status....

Just sayin..

I suspect we have as many people living in poverty as any 3rd world country on this planet. We just have a bunch of wall streeters too so it doesn't look like we are leaders in poverty and crime, and corrupt government officials, that's OK when the big O gets re-elected he will take care of it. When he declares himself KING. Then Michelle will sat,"let them eat cake, make sure it is low in fat and sugar", we have to have healthy peasants.

This country is heading towards a third world country status because of the bad decisions that our politicians have taken , not because of the overpopulation. Do not blame immigrants for the mess that the last governments have done.

Remember Iran, how about the blind dissedent in Beijing we harbored, let the Chinese just go in our Embassy and grab him, I think not.

Yep, those privileges are reserved only for the Western mights. I would surely appreciate if British or the U.S would show the same gumption when it comes to confronting China on some issues. Bullies at best.

But neither the American hostages in Iran nor the Chinese dissident in Beijing were wanted for rape. Ecuador should not be permitted to shelter a criminal nor mask their hatred of the US behind diplomatic pretenses.

Venezuela, Ecuador and Argentina together would @!$%# up Britain.

But neither the American hostages in Iran nor the Chinese dissident in Beijing were wanted for rape.

The "crime" Assange committed is only considered "rape" in Sweden, no where else in the world. It's bat@!$%# crazy that Sweden considers "having consensual sex without a condom" to be "rape."

Venezuela, Ecuador and Argentina together would @!$%# up Britain.

Venezuela, Ecuador and Argentina together would be lucky if they could even find Britain on a map.

And even that entail some bitchslapping sessions and a pound of blow before it was over.

Well its OK to smoke pot in Amsterdam, so does that mean I can smoke it here in the US of A and say well its not legal in Amsterdam, NO a law is a law. If he broke the law in Sweden then he broke the law. So if he raped a girl in Sweden by there laws then yes its rape... just think about it its pretty simple...

Just sayin..

Timmer and paplov, educate yourselves. Read up on their anti-imperialist armies, as well as their allies throughout South America. After forty years of havoc, they are taking back their countries from American and European corporations and building their militaries to defend against the eventual attacks that will come from the US, funded by lobbyists who are sad that they were kicked out of the ALBA countries.

just sayin..

Really? That cliche' is over-done- stick it with a fork. It implies that you are apologizing for the comment you just made. In which case, apology accepted.

Educate yourself. Except for Brazil, there isn't a single South American country even in the top 30 World military powers. Great Britain could sneeze and wipe out half of South America.

You underestimate the allegiance these countries have to one another. You also need to consider that most Brits and Americans would take Ecuador's side in this. Assange is a hero to a lot of people.

You underestimate the allegiance these countries have to one another.

The South had a strong allegiance with the other southern states during the American Civil war too. Liking your neighbor a lot doesn't stop bullets.

You also need to consider that most Brits and Americans would take Ecuador's side in this.

Yeah, here's his support from Brits.

A Reuters reporter saw at least three protesters being dragged away by police as the crowd shouted: "You are trying to start a war with Ecuador." About 20 officers were outside the embassy trying to push away the crowd of about 15 supporters.

As for Americans, just look at these forums. "Most" is a stretch at best.

And the next time someone tries to hide from Chinese or Russian Authorities, China & Russia will invoke this incident and then raid the UK embassy and take what they want.

UK has really stuck their foot in it. Oh yes, the USA does have an treaty that says the USA will DEFEND Ecuador if they are attacked or invaded. So, does the UK want a war with the USA (And more likely with Russia and China just to get this man?)

International Law must be upheld. The Brits have lost this one they should just give in and let the guy go. Otherwise the worse case is a Nuclear War.

And thats my opinion

Alan Pugh, whens the last time you left your bedroom? South American military might, are you for real, and Brits and Americans are going to side with them. Please tell me there are Liberals out there that actually think about what they print

AHHHHHHHHAHAHA, I GET IT.. YOU MADE MY LAST NAME POO!

Seriously, this is what Newsvine has become?

Looks like Poo to me.

The drivel he writes looks like poo as well.

I think there are a lot of wanna be revolutionaries with no revolution handy. The Falkland Island ( Malvinas Islands ) War was an attempt by the Argentine government to distract its own public from its own military/political corruption of the time, made clear by the subsequent social upheaval in the years immediately following the war, in Argentina. It was the French made Exocet missile that defeated the defenses of some British vessels, nothing that the Argentine military came up with themselves. So to imagine that Ecuador would be a military challenge to Britain is fantasy. It's not worth the fuel to steam there. Nor is Ecuador in any position to invade Britain. What is Ecuador going to do, build a troop ship, sail around the tip of South America, to Britain through the Atlantic, and up the Thames... and hope the recon satellites have their cameras turned off? And that doesn't include the formality of the Queen lowering the flag. Argentine soldiers surrendered to the Tommies in droves once the British forces were ashore in the Falklands.

So I would suggest that no wars be planned any time soon on this front. Assange isn't going anywhere. He can eat his beans and play his flute and when he steps out of the embassy onto non embassy soil, he'll be grabbed, bundled and sent to Sweden where courts there will find him guilt or not of the crimes he's accused of in Sweden THEN FROM THERE... next chapter to the story.

Alan Pugh, wow you're quick, can't get nothing past you

talking about fecal matter again pavlov... Really...?

: P

Why do you think, could be he'd just disappear into GITMO and never come to trial.

Shyparrot, who would care if he did? Some impotent malcontents?

Martha,
People who like to know the truth about what our government is doing without the knowledge of the people?

Maybe he has something really good on the Equador government and he's blackmailing them? Of course, if he was that would blow the whole - "The people have a right to know" cover.......

I'm really, really sick of people like Jared who want to know everything the gov't does. For what? Why do you need to know? Why should the innermost secrets of the Pentagon be available to you? Anything else that doesn't affect you directly other than your false sense of importance you "need to know"? You sit at home cozy with your lattes and cry out injustice while you feed off the teat that gives you the freedom and safety to do so.

I doubt very much that you pay attention to what the gov't ALLOWS you to know!

@Sheri-78... I want to know what my government does with MY tax money. If a government that I support (since I am a citizen of a country and a taxpayer in another) monetarily does things against the very principles it was founded on, then I'd want to know.

If you review history, you'll see many governments have done things in secret that are contrary to their founding principles. For instance, the U.S. supported many dictatorial regimes and even helped overthrow a few. So, yes, as a taxpayer I'd want to know.

I'm really, really sick of people like Jared who want to know everything the gov't does. For what? Why do you need to know? Why should the innermost secrets of the Pentagon be available to you? Anything else that doesn't affect you directly other than your false sense of importance you "need to know"? You sit at home cozy with your lattes and cry out injustice while you feed off the teat that gives you the freedom and safety to do so.

The problem is where does the information hiding stop? Where is the line drawn?

Do we need to know everything? Yes, we do, and we should always know everything.

Do we need to know everything right now is the real question I think.

The government should be forced to make its records and communications and everything it does public after so many years.

War Monger Cheney, Scooter Libby and Valerie Plame? Leaks are an equal opportunity enterprise.

The Seal Six commander has already came out and said that the "leaks" from the white house in no one endangered his people and he supports Americans knowing their story.

Your narrative only exists in the world of Limbaugh, not reality.

War Monger Cheney, Scooter Libby and Valerie Plame? Leaks are an equal opportunity enterprise

If so, then add that cock sucker lackey Obama to the list and lets see how enthusiastic you are about it then.

Jared, I'm hoping you are trolling, because you are the reason liberals get such a bad name. You are just quoting talking points like the same tea party types that come here doing the same thing. Stop being a cliche.

Actually no I am not.

The right is criticizing the leaks because it put the seal team and their families in danger. The commander of the seal team has openly said that is incorrect. How is a fact, not a talking point.

Jared Coomes, I just heard from Seal Team members saying the exact opposite of what you said

Jared,

The voice in your head isnt the Seal Team 6 commander.

Get a clue

All of you are just saying, " I heard this from those guys" without providing a source to back your information up.

You are all wrong, until you prove otherwise.

Some Guy its the same guys who have told Obama to quit taking credit for Bin Laden google it

If the worse starts happening most people are unaware how horrible it can get.

Remember the fascist atrocities by Germany during WWII?

Records were made to be broken. America is in horrific shape with largely a physically and mentally ill populace and racism at a high. It looks like America will finally have something it can be number # 1 in. But the not so swift public needs to know that being the best at something evil and awful is not good in any way and will lead to their downfall.

You're right, those mice survived the mass extinction that wiped out the dinosaurs.

What idiocy....are you somehow implying the Assange is a terrorist?
Do you even know the definition of the word?

Already been determined by what court of law?? Or is it just by an ignorant coward posting anonmyously from his keyboard while people like Assange take on the largest governments in the world out in the open.

Well now we know where Ecuador stands in the fight against terrorism. Surround their embassy and if Assange shows his face arrest him and if you can't arrest him then maybe it would be best to just shoot him. Then put some economic sanctions on Ecuador. That should take care of them for many years to come. They surely need us more than we need them.

Now I'm really going to insist on the definition of what "terrorist" means in this brave new world of ours. What started with the best of intentions..."the war on terror", seems to have become the war on freedom. Question any move by an over zealous government, and you are labeled a traitorous, child molesting, rapist, etc., etc.

Where did "child molester" come from...party line? Americans are so concerned that a "rapist" has taken shelter in an embassy. Why do they care. They sheltered a child rapist for 30 years in Penn State, and cursed those that dared to expose it. What a sick lot we are.

John Browning yes maybe the Govt. is being a bit over zealous on terror but if it saves one life isn't that a good thing. Please share what freedom you've lost

Well for one one thing they are doing this for Sweden not the USA and another difference is the blind dissident was just a guy speaking out against abuses his country commits against its own people he wasn't wanted for a real crime! Besides this guy is a scumbag! his leaks on Iraq & Afganistan put peoples lives in danger and even caused some to be lost!! He actually leaked names & towns of people who were cooperating with the US & our Allies! That in itself to me is murder! So think what you want but sometimes there are thing the general public does not need to know! And this guy and his organization just don't get that!

Steve,

It is rather naive to think this actually being done for the alleged "rape" allegations. Those have always been pretty thin. How long do you think it will take for him to disappear from Sweden to the US for other charges?

Your claims about the leaks putting people in danger don't hold up to closer scrutiny. There hasn't been a single proven case where someone was killed due to the leaks. Our military has killed thousands of civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan without a doubt, yet you see fit to criticize a whistleblower without proof. Amazing...

Jar,

Perhaps you should move to Ecuador to be near your hero. Or how about Ecuador's friends like Cuba, Iran, or North Korea. I hear the summers are really nice in N. Korea. LOLOLOL!

Proof! I was on one of them teams that had to scramble to save some of these people in Afganistan! Thats proof enough for me! And out of 4 family's we were assigned to secure, 1 of them we didn't get to in time! But the good old press doesn't report on stuff like that! And futhermore Sweden does what they want they don't cave in to other country's they never have! Why do you think they always stay neutral! And our government doesn't leak people's names but the press does! But you think what you want and always believe the press because they always tell the truth!!! Yeah right! The press only tells bad news and anti-american stuff because that is what sells for some reason! A reporter asked me once if i had any comments on the situation in Afganistan and i simply said go f!$% yourself! Apparently they never printed my response! The press are not what they seem anymore! They have a agenda of their own now!

Bobster,

Though I may not completely agree with Jared, at least he is having a discussion. Honestly, what America most needs is people like you, with nothing to say but emotionally charged, content-empty words, to leave or just shut-up. We don't have time for your worthless banter anymore. Either bring some substance to the discussion or leave the discussion to people who have thoughts.

I'm sorry but I don't take the story of an internet user as solid evidence of jack. If what you say is true then you should have told that reporter your story instead of being an a-hole.

The press are the ones who sold the American people on the Iraq War by printing lies. To say that they are unAmerican(which is a very stupid word) shows your lack of understanding since the press always covers for our government.

Our government doesn't leak names? Already forgotten about Valerie Plume?

Jared;

What you miss in the backdrop of the leaks may not be that OUR soldiers were injured or killed, but rather those that live there, the people of the country who want to see a better life and future for their family, whose information, (as some people would call them snitches) may have helped to kill true taliban gang members. They are the ones whose information was leaked, they are the ones whose identity is now known. Maybe it was just a general location of a few informants... But the taliban went into those towns and killed many because of it.

How would you like it if you reported a drug dealer in your neighborhood, and the police announced that YOU or somebody in your household exposed their operations and some of their friends were arrested. How would you like it if they killed your children and or your spouse because they thought it was them that "ratted" them out?

The results are no different. This bastard divulged information for his own selfishness of greed and glory. As far as the alleged rape etc. If he is charged with a crime. Let him face his accusers and go to court rather than run and hide and request asylum. To me, the running shows his fear of the truth involving the rape.

Besides this guy is a scumbag! his leaks on Iraq & Afganistan put peoples lives in danger and even caused some to be lost!!

false. Our own DOD stated that wikileaks, while damaging, did not compromise national security.

Your right it didn't compromise our national security but it did compromise innocent lives of citizens in those countries! And ofcourse they had to down play it in order to give the impression that the information was useless, which would create doubt in our enemy and do some damage control! but i'm sure you know more than me on this matter!!

K9 and Steve,

Again where is your proof that it endangered the lives of Pakistanis?? Without evidence you are just blowing hot air.

I'm sorry but I don't take the story of an internet user as solid evidence of jack. If what you say is true then you should have told that reporter your story instead of being an a-hole.

Which means anything jared coomes writes here is complete @!$%#.

ASSange is wanted in Sweden for questioning ONLY....he has not been formally charged with anything. All you ASSange supporters, rather than spew Wikileak diatribe again and again, why not support ASSange returning to Sweden to clear his good name? All the factoids you all continually spout has nothing at all to do with the subject at hand. How childish, your attempts at clouding the real issue with smoke and mirrors.

The paranoia level in the average Wilileaks supporter (and ASSange himself) is, quite frankly, amazing....and disturbing. If the 'truth' is so important, then why doesn't ASSange welcome the opportunity to make his truth known - to Sweden and to the world?

Now...before you all jump in and shriek about how Sweden is a puppet of the CIA, etc etc.....why not quote some precedent where Sweden acknowledges itself to be a puppet of foreign countries? THAT would certainly lend support to ASSange's paranoia about answering questions..... He does believe that TRUTH is power, and the TRUTH must be told, right?

And...GITMO?? Are you all kidding me? Exactly who are you trying to fleece here?

Jet-1092441 if they only want to ask questions why do they need to get him to Sweden? It would of be FAR easier and FAR cheaper to just send someone to the UK.

We all know why and you know why The second he is placed into Sweden custody he will be black bagged and sent to the USA or one of the USA's allies with a less then clean record when it coems to torture. This isn't Paranoia Or conspiracy theory it's been done many times before. There's a reason the redemption program of the USA was kept so secret for so long before it was exposed.

Bobster

You are an idiot

So much "buy in" to the media directed scam!

neoatg, Now you are getting ridiculous. "It would be far easier and cheaper just to send someone to the UK"! Assange is a Swede. They had every right to expect him to appear and clear his name. What is he running from, exactly? Assange has exhausted all of his appeals in an attempt to avoid answering to the possible crimes in Sweden. After failing to convince British authorities that he should be above the law, he pulls this cowardly attempt to escape any legal responsibility. All of you USA haters are failing to recognize this reality: Assange isn't facing ANY charges from the US government, because he isn't an American.

for those who keep saying if he submits to questioning that he'll just disappear-this case is so publicized that if we never heard or saw from him again, everyone would know that the government did something shady to him, and it would validate his claims. None of the people he dished on want to make him look like he's trustworthy or had some even worse secret to reveal, so they'd want to make it really obvious/transparent to everyone that they aren't mistreating him in custody, or arranging an "accident".

Steve USMC, the press here doesn't have to leak names, we got the Obama Admn to do that.

Neoatg, rendition, and why would they torture him, to find out who leaked the info? The Liberal mind a ball of confusion

neoatg....your statement about it being easier for Sweden to go to ASSange is ludicrous...almost too silly to even respond.

All you ASSange sheeple seem to think that the world revolves around *him*...and it just isn't so. I know its really really hard to understand and even harder to accept.

If ASSange is truly all about 'truth', then by all means, let him go to Sweden to simply answer QUESTIONS. If he isn't charged with anything, he has nothing to fear. He has an attorney, correct? His level of paranoia is astounding...and he uses it as justification for just about everything (as well as his sheeple).

Actually....if the United States REALLY 'wanted' him, don't you think he wouldn't be alive today? If Britain was such a pawn of the US....don't you think he could have had an 'accident' already? If Sweden was a pawn of the US...don't you think they would have just charged him with whatever the US wanted them to charge him with? Don't you think he would have met with dire circumstances before he even left Sweden?

Holy crap everyone....get just a little dose of reality here....!!

@ Steve USMC, Thank you for your service and your continued support of protecting our American freedom!

It is ironic and I see such a contrast between you and all of our American servicemen who are willing to put their very lives on the line and die for the freedoms that this country has, and the Assanges and supporters who use those very freedoms that were fought for against the very people who fought for them.

If Assange is such a believer in what he is doing is right, he needs to put his very life on the line as our soldiers have done, no matter the consiquences! HIS ACTIONS DEMONSTRATE that he is of the same mind as the terrorists, not willing to die for their belief, but sending the young and uneducated to take their lives while hiding behind women & children.

A man who won't die for something is not fit to live!

Martin Luther King, Jr.

Assange is not a Swede. Assange is Australian.

Well that's just a lie, he is not an accused rapist. He is being extradited for questioning only. There is no evidence that the information he allowed to make public has brought harm to anyone.

One doesn't have to strap bombs to one's body to murder people. The US and Britain murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women, and children in Iraq without one suicide bombing.

All one has to do is propagate a lie and use military force to act upon that lie to murder and maim innocents.

Brian,

In my actual first hand experience no one in my former unit or anyone i knew in either country killed any innocent men, women or children, but we did see the insurgents kill many of the same! what you see in the news are isolated incidents! Actually, out of the thousands of soldiers & Marine's over there the percentage of incidents that this happens in less than 0.25 % now compare that with the insurgents that are generally blowing up bombs in public places and killing people by the dozens all the time! They won't fight us like men because they can't beat us! Yes, are there sometimes bad people in our military that do bad things yes but it is very rare! And in case you don't realize we are at war and sometimes innocent people get caught in the crossfire but we always go out of our way to try to prevent stuff like this from happening! As long as there is war innocent people will get killed! I know it sucks but it does happen, but to say that our people in uniform are murders is just blame bull! Maybe you should get a haircut and try to walk in their boots for a while and then see if you fell the same!!

Steve,

Good luck with explaining that all to Brian. Afterall, he's the expert. He knows Americans killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, just like Rosie Donnell said!

Meanwhile, back on planet earth, thank you for your service to our country

Steve, it seems you are confused about the large picture of the Iraqi "war". This was an unjustified and illegal invasion of another country by Bush and Cheney. Hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis were murdered during the invasion. I am not talking about Al-Queda, I am talking about innocent people sitting in their homes when a bomb landed on them. The insurgents in Iraq were for the most part Iraqi patriots fighting an invading army, just like we in the US would fight an invading army tooth and nail.

As for Assange, I have huge respect for him, he simply exposed the truth. I applaud this even if some lives were put in danger. But the real damage was to politician's and the government's image, and that is why Assange will fry if he is brought to the US. I applaud Ecuador for this decision. This "rape" is nonsense and is simply a ruse to get Assange to the US, in my opinion. Let the Swede's come to London if they want to question him.

Foxy-SEAL, your naivete about this world is mindboggling. Assange is indeed a terrorist and has innocent blood on his hands. And he is a contempitble coward as well as being a sex offender. But you don't care about any of that that cos he fits YOUR political agenda and that makes it alright.

All foreign aid to Ecuador, run by Rafael Correa, a typical third world @!$%#hole tin pot dictator who expropriated and extinguished the free press and imprisons journalists, , ought to be stopped and their 10 billion foreign debt collected by force if necessary.

Foxy-SEAL... When did you start learning history, in 2008? You should go back a few decades, to the Iran/Iraq war at which time Khomeini ( Iran ) was using the children of his own country as minesweepers at the loss of 100's of thousands, against Saddam ( Iraq ) who was being supplied militarily by the West. It was Saddam then who invaded Kuwait, which was the start of the first Gulf War. The coalition forces where then assembled AFTER the United Nations Security Council voted unanimously that Saddam should leave Kuwait. Saddam wouldn't leave so was driven out. George Bush senior, President at that time, called a halt to the killing of Iraq's military after the Highway of Death news broadcasts started coming in. Iraq for years after refused to comply with the conditions of the surrender, hence the second conflict, the conflict which Saddam himself was captured, tried, and executed.

If you go back a little further in history to the Shah of Iran and Ayatollah where the mullahs took over Iran, that's the period of time where Dark Age Islamic religious values collided on "the big screen" with what was then termed modern western values. The Iranians and the Iraqi's were slaughtering each other in "conventional warfare" battles of attrition. In those days people were highjacking airplanes and blowing them up, among other common news stories. Pol Pot in Cambodia killed off millions of his own people. Viet Nam, over for the US at the time, was in conflict with it's once ally China. I heard one estimate of 7 million deaths in that conflict between those once allies. To simplify you kids have a damned simple view of the world and how we got to this place and time. And if you think it can all be explained to you in a couple of paragraphs, you're really in la la land. Want a history lesson in death, study Africa from 1950 onward, and that hardly made the news.

@Steve,

When you said something about the first Persian Gulf war, I was over there in Saudi with the Navy. We had civilians coming up to us asking us why we didn't finish the job after we forced Saddam out of Kuwait. It just reminded me when you mentioned it.

What evidence do you have that he's a pervert, especially since he has not been charged with a crime.

Therefore, you do admit he's a crybaby?

If you were innocent of a crime and did everything you could to avoid being extradited to a terrorist country where you would be likely tortured and killed as a political prisoner, wouldn't you do anything you could to save your own life?

How does this act of self-preservation make him a crybaby?

@Brian-337051 ...extradited to a terrorist country where you would be likely tortured and killed as a political prisoner..

Sweden a terrorist country? They want him to answer to charges of rape and molestation. If he is guilty of those charges then Ecuador should not be permitted to shelter him, and they should not mask their hatred of the US with diplomatic pretenses.

Maybe your reference to a terrorist country was aimed at the US. Might I suggest that Ecuador would be an excellent place for you. They hate the US too.

Assange is wanted in connection with a crime. He is a suspect and in my mind, he's guilty since he is on the run.

Oh right this is just silly You both Paplov and sin clair know he will not stay in sweden as soon as they have him he will be black bagged. Then sent by the USA to one of our "allies" who has less then clean records with toture.

This "oh he's just going to sweden" @!$%# needs to stop period. If this really was just about a "questioning" sweden would of LONG LONG ago agreed to one of the many offers to question him in the UK.

If you were innocent of a crime and did everything you could to avoid being extradited to a terrorist country where you would be likely tortured and killed as a political prisoner, wouldn't you do anything you could to save your own life?

Another finalist in the contest for the incredibly stupid comment of the day...

David at least have to balls to say what his crime supposedly is. He might not of used a condom in consensual sex. Which is only a crime in Sweden and a "crime" which at 1st was dropped because the Sweden authorises said it was bull@!$%#. That only after the US warned wikileaks had such info did it sudden become such a huge deal by Sweden.

lets stop dancing around here the "crime" this man is wanted for questioning is the same as if someone In Philadelphia Put pretzels in a bag(which is a crime there). It's a strange never used law that to this point was likely never enforced.

So what if they do.. as long as they apply the rule of law for which he has been charged, it is then their decision about other actions. Also when one goes into another country, one by virtue of being there accepts the laws and applications of that country, if you don't understand that then you better NOT travel anyplace because everyone else's rules and laws are much different than the USA's........

@neoatg:

You forgot.....THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!!

The paranoia amongst you sheep is truly amazing....and disturbing.

Jet-1093441 Maybe you have a "short memory" but others don't the USA has done this before and they will do it again.

And how nice of you to ignore my question "if this is all about questions why not send someone to the UK as was offered many times?". The Obvious answer is it's not about questions it's about getting this guy to Sweden For another reason.

He have no problem going to Sweden,
but he fear that someone high up have made a backroom deal to send him in a bag to U.S.

It's these backroom deals he is against.

Get used to it, fear has been used to manipulate humanity since the first small groups of people were formed. Now the thirst for entertainment coupled with mass media makes the process so much easier and more efficient.

The utilization of base emotions in packaging every situation with underlying tribal "us & them" boundries is as effective as it was during the time when man was dragging his knuckles on the ground. It is a fact that some "individuals..." are convinced that their pre-packaged "them" got stuck spinning it's wheels at the cro-magnon level of evolution whilst their "us" continued to progress.

This situation is only a delusion, proving the point this writer is making. When you have those, who in righteous indignation proceed on a cleansing crusade in the name of what they actually believe is "tolerance" evidenced by countless unchallenged statements such as this:

Norman-2918025

Skipper-youre just an overweight, religiously brainwashed bigoted sheep-hurray that yoiur kind will be dead in a few years-please dont breed

July 19, 2012 Newsvine.

You are confronted with evidence that the aforementioned mass manipulation of beliefs, perceptions, opinions, "thoughts".... and therefore actions... is in fact extremely effective.

No one can seriously present the argument that wishing a demographic of some 200,000,000 human beings as early a departure from this planet as possible, ...... is in any way shape or form, to be considered tolerance.

There is in fact, no difference between the mentality of those who subscribe to that perspective, their so-called "thinking" serving as a jail cell..... and the participants throughout history in: religious crusades, genocidal activities, witch hunts, the Holocaust, gay bashing, subjugation, conquest, manifest destiny, hate crimes and so forth.

Fascinating it is that millions of "thinking" people can buy into such a scenario while they do not realize they have actually become the embodiment of the evil they are so fervently trying to stamp out of existence.

Such is the power of the spell that so many are under. One side's "them" is half of the "us" as corralled by man-made geographical boundries, the other side's "them" is the threat from without. The moth-flame dynamic is undeniable here.

While the average human likes to believe that modern developments are proof of the evolution of his race, the fact is, what he considers to be "civilization" is nothing more than a thin veneer cloaking his underlying prime-evil self.

Sweet Dreams

David at least have to balls to say what his crime supposedly is.

From what I understand from news reports, he had consensual sex with a woman with a condom and then while she was asleep he penetrated her without a condom and had sex. That's perverted in my book and good thing it's a crime because in all actuality, it is a form of rape, like it or not. Your hero is a pervert.

If you were innocent of a crime and did everything you could to avoid being extradited to a terrorist country where you would be likely tortured and killed as a political prisoner, wouldn't you do anything you could to save your own life?

Hahahahahahahahahaha .... awe, poor baby ...

Why do you Liberals think he is going to be tortured ,for what?

I forgot....unbridled paranoia is something the all ASSange sheeple share with their 'leader'.....

You are all so darned laughable, its just sad.

So for trying to help inform the woefully ignorant and blind American public, he deserves imprisonment?

If you really believe your BS, then at least you should ask yourself what Australia's position is on the subject, since Assange is an Australian citizen - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11945558

The Australian take is NOT relevant........Doesn't no matter his citizenship status. What he is accused of happened outside their legal authorities and not in their country. So useless comment......

@Robert - I remind you Australia is a MAJOR US allied, so their position IS RELEVANT. Unless of course, now we are going to start pissing off our allies.

free Assange!

I'm with you Larry! Free Assange!! @!$%# RL56!!

If we lose him, the damn creatures of the night that have been exposed WILL conceal themselves under ground once more; I stand behind his actions.

Dont let them silence a truth speaker, expose them; EXPOSE THEM ALL! - let them fry in the daylight!

I could care less about my countrys "image."

It's such a fine morning to sit by the river, have a coffee and a smoke and watch the sewage float by.

Don't you know performing oral sex on the men who just ruptured your anus, while making you their collective bee-aitch is much worse...? No one can imagine why you brag about doing so, It's all good, do your thang yo, ... LoL

We all know how you are slowly brainwashing people to believe that this activity is "natural" , but it is not so. No one can seriously make the claim that the human digestive system was evolved for the purpose of sexual gratification.

Now I'm not making any moral judgements upon you or the lgbt community. I'll let others argue over what right and wrong should be. However, be advised that your role in the same sex mating scenario will eventually result in serious damage to your intestines.

Haven't the superpowers of the world invaded enough countries?

Evidently not.

It is not Sweden that realy wants him they ar just a go between. Sweden has not even filed any charges against him. They are the go between for the US. If England does go in after him they better bring their embassy personnel home because they will no longer be safe

Bob, How are you so informed about this matter? Did you get this inside info from Wikileaks? Get lost with your foolish sympathy for a rape suspect. (I do not care what Sweden's definition of rape is). If he is innocent then please explain his desperate attempts to avoid the investigation...

I read he is suspected of raping two girls. Allegedly he had unsafe sex. If that is true then they have the DNA evidence to convict. So why bring him home for questioning him. File charges then go get the pr1ck and if he refuses, shoot him. That would make so many ignorant people happy. Pay attention, he is vigorously evading being sent to Sweden because they will send him somewhere, no one wants to go.

"If he is innocent then please explain his desperate attempts to avoid the investigation..." - Because he knows damn well that's not what they really want him for!!!!!!! Duh.

The only Brits that want him free are the whiney leftists

Is this what they really want???

Apparently that is what Ass hole Assange wants. And you might want to brush up on the relevant laws since you are spouting off a lot of inaccurate statements.

Really all Briton has to do is give the Ecuadorian diplomats 72 hours to leave the country. The embassy will have to be closed at that time. They can nab this guy at that time. It's hasn't been all that uncommon in the past. The USA and USSR used to toss each other's diplomats out every so often. It's a political game that's played. Everyone abuses their embassy privilege and everyone knows it. Usually a country waits until the other one does something it just can't look the other way about and then they crack their whip.

If the Ecuador embassy doesn't have an intelligence section I'll eat my hat. That's all it really takes. (If it's used for other than diplomacy and they all are.) Ecuador will get pissed and kick all the Brits out of their country and both sides will bitch and moan for a few months and then everyone will return back to their respective embassies and life goes on.

Actually Ecuador is a beautiful rock under which to slither. It is rated as THE best place for Americans to retire internationally. They would be doing him a big favor.

Just wondering, why your choice in fecal matter in making your analogy, was tilted toward horses as opposed to chickens, bats or representatives from the bovine community...?

Is is that guano and steer manure are classically preferred over horse excrement in fulfilling the role of their next incarnation in the exchange of energy?

Or could it have anything to do with the apparent ironic symbolism of your actual choice of feces being dropped in pre-packaged cubes...?

In any event, your comment smacks of a prejudiced, exclusionary mindset. Your preference for an organized structure of cubes over a seething pile is frightening indeed.

In the interest in humanity advancing as a species, you are kindly requested to re-examine your perspective. A bent towards the collocation of one substance over another is not a trivial fecal matter.

Acts of defecation by all species provide material, which given a fair chance, surely will in time, demonstrate that they too, can be equally beneficial to man.

Kind Regards

paplov:

Check out International Living Magazine. In the mountains every day is like Spring weather, and two can live very comfortably on $1,000/ month.

The paplov wouldn't know anything about world geography if a globe hit him in the face. He's a troll.

If Ecuador grants a citizenship to Assange, then no one can do anything to him. This is obvious he will not get a fair trial in any country except in Australia.

He can get permanent residence by proving he has income of at least $800/month plus another $100 for each dependent.

Mugtech, actually Ecuador ranked number5 Brazil number 1 from what I've read

Pavlov , is this the best you can come up with? LoLzZz after the cyber-lobotomy I performed on you and this is your response hahahaaaa I Love it!!!

Thank You Kindly for providing the entertainment, this is great!!! : P

You must be employed by a bank.

Fascinating how both sides of the deliberately divided mass can be manipulated to selectively apply the values they have been programmed with depending upon the needs of the hierarchical zenith of the totem pole-like socio-economic stratification they are a brick in.

Its a shame what these people are doing to this man. Drumming up charges all because they don't like the fact that he is spilling on the secrets. The fact is we are entitled to whats going on. Now they make him out to be a criminal. What kind of moral high horse do these folks come from that state what he is doing is wrong. Its wrong to keep lying to the people all in the name of safety. What a bunch of sh$t. Are governement does it all the time.

How many innocent civilians lives have been saved since the previous attrocities of the military against civilians were published? Only good has come from the public airing of these attrocities. So who in the military/ government, now needs to go before a war crimes tribunal? Assange so called crime, looks pretty tame, compared to what has been done to civilians and countries world wide under the guise of terrorism, doesn't it? So who are the real terrorists of the world at the moment?

Precedent was already set by Iran on November 4, 1979

The Iranians invaded our Embassy in Tehran and took 140+ hostages. I guess that would fall under the terms of a "dangerous precedent", though nothing has happened to them. Now thirty years later I do believe the Israelis are about to extract revenge for us.

"And since they did it, we can do it now." Ya, because that's how the legal system works. You are a complete moron.

Probably in every country the CIA is active in. I doubt there is as any embassy anywhere that doesn't abuse it's privilege in a similar manner. Every country knows it and it's usually ignored so as to not cut off all diplomatic contact. They stop ignoring it when one country does something the other one can't ignore. Then the offending country gets their diplomats kicked out of the offended country's embassy for a period of time. The USA and USSR did it to each other more than once. If the Brits decide they can't ignore this, then Ecuador is out.

Just like Russia, Israel, Great Britain, France...the list could go on and on...get real dude and join the real world. Dude leaked some serious stuff, if you don't see that you are obviously from Boston or Maine.....

@Crash

The dude is a hero..He showed how corrupted the US Government really is..He gave the USA a big black eye and the USA government does not like it..haha