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Subscribe to RSSISLAMABAD – Up to 25 Shiites were dragged from passenger buses and killed early Thursday in a suspected sectarian attack, police and government officials said.
The victims were ordered off three buses by unknown gunmen and then shot dead, according to a senior government official.
There have been several such sectarian attacks in the region in the past, including one earlier this year in which 25 Shiites were killed.
Thursday's attack took place in the remote mountainous Lalusar area of Naran valley in northern Pakistan.
A senior police official said three buses taking passengers from Rawalpindi, near the capital Islamabad, to the Astore district of northern Pakistan, were attack early in the morning.
Commissioner Hazara division Khalid Umarzai said 18-25 people are suspected to have been killed.
"According to our information, around 15 armed men who were wearing Pakistan army uniform stopped the buses," Umarzai said. "They disembarked all the passengers and checked their identity cards and then opened fire at them. But this is initial information and death toll could rise as the area is far away and it will take some time in reaching complete information to us."
He said a group of foreign visitors, including a party of Japanese travelers, informed them about the incident.
Police official Shah Nawaz said most of the people traveling in buses were from Shiite Muslim community. He said they were using the Kaghan-Naran route because of previous attacks on the Karakurram highway.
Air base attack
Earlier, militants attacked a military air base in Pakistan, prompting a five-hour firefight that killed two security guards and six attackers and left the base commander seriously injured.
The militants, wearing military uniforms and suicide vests, entered the Kamra airbase, close to the capital, Islamabad.
Muhammed Muheisen / AP
Images of daily life, political pursuits, religious rites and deadly violence.
A Pakistan Air Force spokesman said the militants attacked the air base where JF-17 Thunder planes are assembled. However, the spokesman said those aircraft were not present at the airbase during the attack.
Security officials inside the base said some security personnel have been injured in exchange of fire with the militants.
No militant group has so far claimed responsibility for the attack but Pakistani security officials believed the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan or TTP headed by Hakimullah Mahsud could be behind the attack.
Pakistani intelligence agencies had released reports a few days ago and said that militants could attack PAF and other military installations during the final week of Ramadan, the Islamic holy month.
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I'm just waiting to hear leaders of the Muslim community express condemnation of such acts.
...and waiting
...and waiting
...and waiting...
That's rare if at all. Pakistan has gone down the path of hatred. Hatred for Indians, Bangladeshis, Afghans, Americans, Iranians and their own people be it Hindus, Christians or Shias. If pakistan manages to kill everybody other than Sunni pakistanis, then these sunni fanatics will start killing each other.
Thanks to Mountbatton a-hole - the former English viceroy of India - who divided India and created this mess.
Sounds like somebody's in deep Shiite.
Nobody kills more Muslims on a day-to-day basis than their fellow Muslims.
Creek Dog
"their" religion is messed up? Can you explain, what about yours, that isn't?
Chad,
Americans don't drag men, women & children off buses and execute them on the spot because of their religion or creed. Yeah, we're a little rough around the edges but nothing like them.
Who's side are you on anyway?
PJ, who created Muslim violence before Mountbatten existed, before the US existed, before Israel existed? When are you and people like you going to lay the blame where it lies, with Islam and Muslims? Islam is poison.
No, we slaughter entire cultures of people and stake our flag in the ground and call it our own.
Really?
You vastly miss the point. I love America, as do you, I just don't bury my head in the sand and willingly participate in blind ignorance of our faults.
My point is, whenever I hear a Christian talk about how "barbaric" another religion is ... I can't help but not only question their grasp of history, but of their religion itself.
Creek Dog save your breath. I've read Chad in the past and he's Muslim.
@unbelievable
I highly doubt Creek is on the same level of ignorance as you. If anyone who "reads" me doesn't pick up on the fact that I'm not a fan of religion across the board .... well, than I highly doubt they can read at all.
Chad,
This is my religion and where I came from. We do not bury our heads in the sand & the blind ignorance is in your head. Yes, we all have opinion however, I disagree with you 100%.
You tell me, was the actions of this story barbaric? If not, then what is their actions called? Normal? Please tell me. I have to hear this. Oh, and name calling doesn't help you out.
unbelievable, thanks for the information. That was my second guess.
Have a nice day...
@Creek
Yes, I'm well aware of the religious brainwashing and fundamentalism that has been penetrating our armed forces. It's really pretty sad actually, not to mention completely unconstitutional.
Where did I call you name?
Slow down, comprehend.
I never called you a name. Quite the opposite, I acknowledged your love of this country (as I did my own). Highlighting the blind ignorance that infects this nation is not to say that you personally, are ignorant. You read that wrong. {Buy the way. The term "ignorant" is not an insult ... it just describes lack of knowledge in a certain area. There are a great deal of things I'm ignorant in/of}
How is that remotely the point and where did I say differently?
I simply picked up on your usage of the term "their," and found it to be rather ironic. In the grand scheme of things, most religions are barbaric. It really is that simple. I didn't mean for you to turn into the drill instructor from Full Metal Jacket.
Pity.
I thought you were smarter than that.
I wonder if we can go a step forward ... religion is poison.
Hmm. Yup, seems pretty sound to me.
Chad,
And to think I risked my life so you can sit behind a computer and right this stuff.
You have no appreciation for our military. If we had none, you wouldn't be sitting there enjoying your life. Instead, you'd most likely be pulled off a bus and executed on the spot for your "BELIEFS" but noooooo, Creek Dog along with hundreds and thousands of his comrades risked their lives (not to mention married with children) so you can have your opinion.
Unfortunately, yours needs work or therapy. You perceived unbelievable's intelligence as ignorant. I say that is name calling. We're done here.
Violence is nothing new. Religious violence is nothing new.
On the contrary, it's old. That's the problem. Islam is still rooted in the past, having held itself back from the civic enlightenment that most other countries enjoy that keep their various religious groups from butchering each other. In an institutional vacuum where there is insufficient economic, academic, and civic concerns to occupy people, people tend to invest their lives in religion.
It is my opinion that we've exacerbated the problem by supporting repressive regimes and helping throttle the economic and civic development of middle eastern nations. When people grow up with education supplied by religious groups and emerge in a society with few jobs, no political freedom, and a strong religious authority, it's only natural for many of them to gravitate toward the institutions with money and power. That in turn ensures that the next generation of religious leaders are similarly divorced from the pragmatic concerns of the modern, secular world.
I wonder how Tunisia and Libya will look in ten years.
CREEKDOG!!!!!! thanks for your service to the greatest country on Earth.
All organized religions are nothing more than a method to control the masses, based on books written by men who were basically third parties to what's written in the books, putting their ideologies into words decades and centuries after the fact. These "holy" books are not the word of God but rather the carefully chosen dictates of man. The world would be a far better and more peaceful place in which to live if all organized religions were to cease to exist. Organized religions are the bastions of intolerance. One has no need for religions or religious buildings to have faith in a supreme being and to practice that faith.
Come on man, now you're just blowing smoke. I honor your service much too much to engage in such an irrational comment.
People love hate and violence. And the world is running out of food. Without religion people will still find reasons to kill. Race, Money, POWER and survival are still reasons to kill.
"Race, Money, POWER and survival are still reasons to kill."
True.
But most of those (probably not race) are better reasons to kill than religion.
"And to think I risked my life so you can sit behind a computer and right this stuff."
You also risked your life so that you can sit behind a computer and complain back to him. Freedom of speech is a two-way street. Actually, it's more like an intersection: everything goes wherever it wants, a lot of hot air is belched into the sky, and occasionally people who don't know what they're doing crash into each other :p
Hey! We're still 1st in gross GDP! That's a fourth category! And I'm pretty sure we also get more patents approved than any other country, although that article was from a few years ago, so it might not be true anymore...
Well, considering Apple pretty much patents everything, I wouldn't be surprised by that. The problem with patents, however, is that they are only as useful as the science behind the technology that makes them work. Sadly, this country has not only become fearful of science ... we down-right hate it in certain instances.
Every yardstick that could possibly hope to distill one type of activity across an entire nation down to a single rankable number is going to be deeply flawed. Every one of the "bad" categories mentioned in your quote likewise means very little or has positive connotations: extremely high incarceration rates are evidence of an efficient and responsive criminal justice system. Belief in angels probably indicates religiosity, which means very little on its own except that other countries might have more atheists (or maybe practice religions with no angels?). And defense spending generates some excellent research projects that eventually make their way to the public.
Interesting.
So, the fact that we spend the most of any nation on earth in health care, but rank very poorly in overall life-expectancy, infant mortality, and the like, has a "positive" connotation in your view?
I'd love to hear it. Personally, I think it means our system is grossly flawed.
How about the penal system. If there's one thing patriots love to point out ... it's our freedom. Never mind that we incarcerate more of our citizens than anywhere on earth (and the shameful fact that we have a for-profit prison system).
Really?
I don't know about you, but the fact that the majority of the system is housing non-violent drug offenders (many of which are recreational weed smokers), doesn't really make me feel safer at night.
The murder rate in the US is roughly 3 times higher than in the UK. Yeah, our system is efficient and responsive alright.
Islam is the scourge of the earth... it will destroy itself. Sunni vs Shiite slaughter is just beginning
The imperative to attack, kill or subjugate the unbeliever is very strong in the Islamic ideology and scripture. In Pakistan there are almost no unbelievers. The devout begin to focus on the Islamic derivitives instead. They level the accusation that they are not "Islamic enough" or that their rituals are blasphemous. They make the excuse, then satisfy their blood lust that is religiously justified.
"So, the fact that we spend the most of any nation on earth in health care, but rank very poorly in overall life-expectancy, infant mortality, and the like, has a "positive" connotation in your view?
I'd love to hear it. Personally, I think it means our system is grossly flawed."
Our system IS grossly flawed, make no mistake. But yes, it absolutely has positive connotations.
America is the #1 creator of experimental medical technologies and creator of medicines and pharmaceuticals. So that absurdly high cost is in part research costs that go into creating new medical technologies. ALL medicine is expensive, and research and experimentation is more expensive. No other country has the resources (in terms of highly profitable medical tech and pharma companies) for that kind of investment.
Is that better than having a cheap system that delivers better care? Probably not. But like I said, it's foolish to try and break a figure like those into a simple explanation.
"I don't know about you, but the fact that the majority of the system is housing non-violent drug offenders (many of which are recreational weed smokers), doesn't really make me feel safer at night.
The murder rate in the US is roughly 3 times higher than in the UK. Yeah, our system is efficient and responsive alright."
Well, whether or not you personally "feel safer" isn't exactly a concrete measure or our system's efficiency and success. Also, and say this with all due respect, you seem to be something of a pessimist, so I'm sure that would skew the figures.
For what it's worth, I agree that we have way too many laws, and that imprisoning people for drug possession is foolish. But that's an issue aside from whether our criminal justice system works properly, isn't it? As is our murder rate; we have more murders than the UK, but we also catch and convict more murderers than the UK. Which is, again, evidence that the system is working. If you have a problem with what the system is working ON, that's a completely different issue, isn't it?
I fail to see how equating our "tops" at medical research has a bearing on the fact we're "bottoms" at actually taking care of our citizens per the rate at which we pay for their care. If anything, I would think your point only further highlights the bureaucracies of the system ... the fact we are so poor at implementing the very research and innovation that we are so good at cultivating, no?
I agree. But it sure is a start. Less we: "try and solve our problems using the same thinking with which we created them."
Neither is our rate of incarceration (which was my point)
How so? More a realist.
I don't get the logic here. This is simply a law of averages
Actually, I think it goes much deeper than this. The fact we focus on the wrong issues, is a cosmetic problem of our society. It's our culture which is flawed ... the system is merely a consequence of that fact.
"If anything, I would think your point only further highlights the bureaucracies of the system ... the fact we are so poor at implementing the very research and innovation that we are so good at cultivating, no?"
It depends on your point of view, which is neatly encapsulated here:
"More a realist."
You and every other cynic, friend. I personally see the advancement of technology as a whole as being just as important as actually fixing people up here and now. Both are definitely important, and I would like to see progress on the latter, but that issue has become politically muddled as of late, so I'll settle for the former.
"I don't get the logic here. This is simply a law of averages"
I'm simply saying that the efficiency and competence of our justice system is measured by catching and punishing criminals, not preventing crime in the first place or going after the criminals who you personally think actually deserve it as opposed to others. If more murders happen, then we have more murderers to catch. Whether we do so or not is reflected in part by our incarceration and conviction rate.
"It's our culture which is flawed ... the system is merely a consequence of that fact."
This is actually a philosophical point with me as to whether America even has a distinct culture, but I digress: given the content of the article, it would seem our culture is no worse than anyone else's, no?
Well, you know what they say: Scratch a cynic, and you'll find a disappointed idealist
And to think ... this whole time, I thought we disagreed.
Given the state of our nation's political points of view, I often wonder if philosophical standings are our only refuge.
It's not that we are any "worse," it's that in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, we think we are so much better. That was the whole point of the quote. I'm not a cynic in that I want to abandon my country, on the contrary. Highlighting our flaws (after first admitting we have them) is a greater measuring stick of our culture than say .... why we throw cuffs on our citizens.
"When you're born, you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front-row seat."
This isn't necessarily a bad thing. As you sad, It all depends on your point of view.
Don't worry guys I'm sure they're just Iran's Rev. Guards, like the ones kidnapped in Syria and Libya. /sarcasm
thank you Chad for being the one voice of reason on this article.
@Chad - "How about the penal system. If there's one thing patriots love to point out ... it's our freedom. Never mind that we incarcerate more of our citizens than anywhere on earth (and the shameful fact that we have a for-profit prison system)."
I would take it alot further. Our current penal system grants more RIGHTS and PRIVILEDGES to the perpetrators of crime than the people they victimize. And let's look at the FACTS here.
A person is murdered. They get NO 30 years worth of appeals, NO Plea Bargains, NO tree hugging, kumbaya singing pro-lifers crying and screaming for their right to live. The dead have NO reprieve, have suffered cruel punishment (especially in the case of being stabbed to death, choked to death, burned to death, or raped then beaten to death), they don't get a 12th hr call from the governor granting them a stay of THEIR execution, and most certainly DO NOT HAVE a paid for mouth piece arguing their rights in a court of law. But most certainly the perpetrator of the crime GETS ALL OF THESE BENEFITS. And while we are at it, let's consider all of those poor poor people put in prison for BREAKING THE LAW, who upon their release, HAVE NOT LEARNED THEIR LESSON, but go on to become REPEAT OFFENDERS.
You want to talk about people being incarcerated, how about the average law abiding citizen who is a victim of crime, who suffers the trauma of that violent crime, suffers the indignation of being some footnote on a resume' by one of the dregs of society. And for those that do survive the brutality of the crime, they suffer the psychological scars of those crimes, often times bearing the full cost of medical treatment, psychological treatment, perhaps the loss of a job as a result, and become so damned fearful of a repeat of the crime, loose that very right of Life, Liberty, and Happiness. But that's right, it's fk the victim, and hug the criminal...
For your misguided information, OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM benefits the Criminal and NOT THE VICTIM. If I had my drethers, the Death Penalty would apply IN ANY FELONY CASE. Best to remove the tumor before it becomes the cancer...
Pray-Hard - I don't deny Islam also has a problem. But then so does christianity. And possibly every other religion too. The worst violence in the world always has hapened in the name of religion.
What I criticized was the use of violence rooted in religious beliefs as a political tool. Makes sense now?
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you are still retarded.
Couldn't care less if every single Pakistani were dragged off busses and shot. Pakistan is our enemy.
Whats this package under the seat.... OH SHIITE!
For a country that is our enemy, American has been paying them millions of dollars since the start of the wars. They will continue to get American's money until we finally leave.
We don't need to send our military to fight our enemies, just leave them alone and they just keep killing each other. Much more cost effective!
Oh, gee.
The problem with simply letting them kill each other off is that it often interrupts the flow of oil, which interrupts the flow of cash into our corporations, which inconveniences our politicians, so we have to involve our troops, to ensure these humanoids kill each other in an orderly fashion, without damage to infrastructure.
But yes, the total depopulation of the entire middle east would mark the beginning of humanity's Platinum Age.
How does Pakistan killing inside Pakistan affect our flow of oil? You have warped sense of economics...
See "damage to infrastructure".
When pipelines are damaged, oil can't flow.
And when oil can't flow, the 1% risk losses to their portfolios, and we can't have that.
''Pakistani intelligence agencies had released reports a few days ago and said that militants could attack PAF and other military installations during the final week of Ramadan''
Well there you have it. In a country were many are neglected education. The release of the above government statement just gave them permission if you read it with less than a5th grade comprehension.
I am sorry - Pakistani "what" agencies - you said?
Can't we just drop Hilary over Pakistan in a parachute with a machine gun?
Anxiously awaiting her pronouncements on this latest massacre. "The United States wants blah blah blah." And of course some ME Muslim official reminding us how much they love peace, plus an American Muslim with "We love America!" (Check out how much their families love American clothes, movies, non-halal food, et cetera barf).
What did I ever do to you?
Do you have a point, or are you just blathering?
Hillary,
Just the look on your face while saying, "What did I ever do to you?" made me LMFAO man. Caught me off guard for a second. Good one man.
Have a good day.
Oh Shiite!
It does not matter which nationality the Muslims are, nor does it matter which sect -- alawite, sunni or shiite -- because they all hate every other sect and religion in the world. Period. It is no wonder that Islam has gained such a terrible reputation around the world, since they are all totally intolerant of everyone else around them and are seething with hatred for anything and anyone that does not match their idea of Islam. That is why the REAL Muslims of the world need to stand up and take back their religion, or these radical murderers will steal it from them totally.
They have quite the little geography problem, awwwwww that's too bad!
Guilt, fear, mass insanity, sounds like Islam and christianity.
This just in: Sun rises in East.
Just another normal day in Pakistan.
Okay, so, being a Pakistani currently residing in Pakistan, I am more than a little dismayed to read the above comments...great to know that if I ever am under any threat or if ever do I die due to any injustice, you 'white and polite', presumably very cultured and educated people, would pop out the champagne. Since that calms my soul, I would also request worldwide media to stop putting up pictures of Pakistan showing poverty etc...show ground realities, i.e. bustling cities, working women and an unbreakable pride in their nation.I personally feel that the good parts of Pakistan are never shown.
I am a 24 year old girl, living in a city, working from 9-5, with other men and women, wearing western clothes to work, watching western movies and listening to music..all those 'western things' i.e. markers of an enlightened, loving society like yours. I am so happy in Pakistan, and I am not alone. Stop stereotyping me. Stop reporting only one side. Stop your hate. There are many different sides to any country. Any country, including Pakistan.
To all those like me who would feel terrible reading your above comments: Pakistan Zindabad!
Elavaram:
Your response and your attitude demonstrate EXACTLY what these negative posts say about Pakistan.
I'm glad that you're so happy in Pakistan, and I wish you continued happiness. The fact that you wear "western" clothes and watch "western" movies is irrelevant.
What IS relevant is that your post completely ignores the entire tragedy that was reported in this article. You respond as though it never happened, and as though it means nothing to you.
The only thing you express is that these respondents condemned YOUR country and YOUR culture. And I understand your resentment at such condemnation.
But where is your resentment (or even your opinion!) at those who committed this crime? Or are such crimes so ordinary as to not merit your comment?
Enjoy the movies, dear; you don't seem to be learning much from them.
Elavaram, I agree that your country is probably pictured inacurrately in our press. But please consider that our country is also pictured inaccurately in your press. Your countrymen burn our flag; we don't burn yours. Your countrymen are very busy killing each other just because of their religion; we pretty much quit that centuries ago. Your country supports terrorism; our country fights terrorism. Your country takes our money and spits in our faces; our country just keeps giving. Need more examples?
All that said, please be assured that I personally would be sad if you were ever under threat or came to any harm, as would the vast majority of Americans. However, your country has demonstrated time and time again that you dislike us, and are only interested in taking our handouts. We don't have any idea which, or how many, of your fellow counrtymen are reasonable people who don't hate us. Please try seeing it from our side.
Elavaram, why do you all do everything Western, and where did you learn such good English?
Love it. A story about hair, teeth, bones, meat, blood and eyeballs with a picture of a cute smiling little girl in a tree swing. Awwww, isn't that sweet? Almost makes ya wanna projectile vomit blood, huh?
I can hear the politically correct/multi-cultural meatheads whining as I write (read this aloud, very nasally like Tom Petty singing Tax Man) ... "But, it's their culture. It's OK if they kill each other. We must be tolerant. We shouldn't judge them. Their culture is just as valid as our culture. It's our fault. It's Israel's fault."
Good point about the picture with the article (& the rest). LOL
hurrah for equidor and assange
A true hack at heart. The coward didn't even have the courage to stand up in courts and face his accusers.
Can I steal this and use it in another post?
Sure. You can "assange" it for all we care.
hurrah!!!
Need any more proof that Islam is the religion of peace?
I wish this type of action would open up the minds of that sorry government.. Sadly, the government wants our money but not our help, that way, the president and all the top people can become millionares (on our tax dollars) and leave the country..many coming here to retire on their millions while their own people die at the hands of haters (but in the name of Allah).
Yeah, just like Iraq and Afghanistan. A trillion US $ later and not a single thing has changed. So, oh great leaders of ours, how many more trillions do we borrow and spend that we cannot afford before you say enough is enough and throw in the towel? How many more of our sons and daughters lives must you continue to waste on this lost cause? We would all really like to know here.
Pakistan is a shiesehole, and the planet doesn't need that many holes. Let's plug the holes.
More 'tough love' from the 'religion of peace'...
They're barbarians still living in the fifth century; it's never going to change. These radical and militant Muslims need to be given magic carpet rides to paradise. They need to be exterminated for the good of mankind.
The U.S. needs to get the hell out of the Muslim world and let them continue to kill each other in the name of their Allah. Islam is such a hateful, violent and intolerant religion, based on the writings of a hateful, violent and intolerant man, yet they embrace it with vigor.
The Catholics and Jews stopped killing innocent people for no valid reason centuries ago. Members of this "religion of peace" are hated more and more every day, especially considering the fact that the so called "peaceful and moderate" members of Islam sit back, watching these radicals and militants kill innocent people for no reason, and voice no objections to the carnage and do absolutely nothing to stop it. Their silence is deafening and tells the world that they basically agree with it and condone it.
Personally, I think the only solution is to keep these Muslims within the borders of their own countries and to not allow them to immigrate to any civilized country. I had respect for peaceful Muslims in the past; never again. I consider each and every one of them a threat to my safety and a threat to peace. The only coexistence they desire is with fellow Muslims, and even then they will find many reasons to kill each other. Their desire is a worldwide caliphate comprised of only those of the Islamic faith. Well, I'm sorry; that's not going to happen.
Only those of the the're specific sect of Islam.
I can't fathom why Pakistan's military is more trusted than their government by Pakistanis. Despite all its support and power, security in the country is a shambles, and the army fails again and again to stop these sorts of attacks on both its populace and its own military bases. The Pakistani government is weak and inept, but the army is weak, inept, AND armed, which I would think is much worse.
To Valid View Point, BMett and Unbelievable:
I am glad that you responded to my post. I understand that I did not write anything related to the issue in this news, but really, why should I? I do not believe I will be listened to. Will you believe me that I have never personally met anyone in my country that supports terrorism? Will you believe me if I said that universities in Pakistan actually provide seats to religious and ethnic minorities on the basis of affirmative action? Would you believe me that Pakistanis, just today, experienced a Taliban attack on a Pakistan Air Force base and most comments on articles in Pakistani media are anti-Taliban? You won't believe me. I don't want to be the pleader forever. I have pleaded enough. Now I just try to make people see the other side of Pakistan. I understand my country is complex and has a lot of issues to sort out, but the majority of people here, from all religions and classes, would not support the Taliban or terrorism. You want proof? Pakistanis have never voted a religious party into power. Barely any support for extremism.
What you see is a backlash. The war on terror has taken a toll on our social fabric. That is a fact. Pakistan has lost a lot more than any other nation, if you do not believe me, please google the number of Pakistani soldiers and civilians that have died since the war on terror started. If you feel resentment for American and other soldiers dying for no real cause, please consider how Pakistanis feel when we lose our 'sons and daughters' in a war most people over here think is the corrupt Pakistani government's surefire way to warm their deepening-by-the-day pockets. Our government has humiliated us.
As for my english, you forget that Pakistan was a British colony. English is widely spoken. I am your average Pakistani.
Thank you for listening to me.
"Will you believe me that I have never personally met anyone in my country that supports terrorism?"
For peaceful Muslims to sit back and watch the carnage, to sit back and organize no objections to such carnage, and to sit back and do nothing to stop the terrorism is to support it. Your silence is deafening.
That's very enlightening, elavaram, and I want to thank you for sharing.
People have an innate tendency to simplify things. We forget that most nations are just as complex as ours, with many different sectors and levels of education and wealth and political conflict and so on. It's all too easy to think of nation as a uniform landscape, with its people a homogenous crowd. Heck, I don't even know a single CITY that's completely similar from border to border, never mind a state or country.
However, I think you're again missing BM's point, or at least you don't understand it: the idea that you can dismiss the wholesale murder of 25 random people horrifies us. Violent rhetoric aside, almost no American can fathom gunning down dozens of people we don't even know just for belonging to the wrong religion, nor can we imagine the sort of life in which we could shrug that off. Trying to tell us about your part of Pakistan, perfectly civilized and prosperous, just leaves us confused when you have this kind of violence taking place within the same country. That you stop to tell us that you're proud of your country rather than expressing hope for it getting better convinces some that you personally tolerate or even approve of this sort of disaster.
Nonetheless, thank you for speaking with us. I'm sure it's unpleasant to read a constant outpouring of blunt ignorance and self-righteous hatred for Pakistan and its people, but rest assured that making angry and intolerant Internet comments is just us Americans' way of dealing with the overwhelming complexities of our geopolitical problems.
Keep trying. Education equals enlightenment.
Sooooo.......you apostates call this 'Living Umma Wahid'?
Unleash the Drones From Hell!
Shiites are The Band on the Run. They are getting wiped out in Syria, Pakistan and taking a lot of casualties in Iraq. They are also getting pounded in Yemen an Bahrain. If only a strong Shiite nation could get their hands on some massively destructive weapons.
Hillary 2016
Yours is the craziest reply I seen so far. Where are you getting your information? First of all I think you're getting them confused with the sunnis. The shiite sect runs Iran, Iraq and is dominate in Pakistan and Afganistan.
It's the sunnis that are getting clobbered by there fellow pactioners of Islam.