Government minister among 32 people killed as Sudanese helicopter crashes into mountain in bad weather

Updated at 11 a.m. ET: Bad weather was blamed for the crash of a chartered helicopter Sunday in southern Sudan, which killed all 32 people aboard, including several prominent government and political leaders.

The helicopter was carrying a government delegation to South Kordofan state for prayers on the first day of Eid al-Fitr, the festival marking the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, when it crashed into Hajar al-Nar, a mountain near the town of Talodi, said the official Sudanese news agency, SUNA


SUNA reported that the victims included Ghazi al-Saddiq, the minister of Guidance and Endowments — the equivalent of the religion ministry — Maki Ali Balayli, chairman of Sudan's Peace and Justice Party, and several other government, security and media figures. 

Initial reports had speculated that the Sudan People's Liberation Movement North, the main rebel group in the violent region, might have attacked the helicopter, but rebels denied any involvement, and the government later said the crash was "due to bad weather."

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What's that saying they so frequently chant, "Allahu Akbar?" I think so.

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Reply#1 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:30 AM EDT

You are a disguting thing. You are the reason for hatred and wars in this world.

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#1.1 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:29 AM EDT
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I think the reason there is so much hatred and wars is because of radical Islam, not OdumbodaPrez.

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#1.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

I don't think you think Joe. And Cheryl, you're right - OdumbodaPrez is an example of why there is so much hatred and bigotry in this country, based on ignorance, as evidenced by his post.

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#1.4 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:34 AM EDT

It be nice if people could be civil and just call him President Obama. I will not vote for him, but at least I will respect the office.

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#1.5 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

Allow me to retort. Why would you request respect for him when he shows you as an american citizen no respect? And I know you are not naive or gullible enough to have me explain. I was brought up to learn that in order to give respect you must first receive respect.

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#1.6 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

net

to have me explain

Yes please explain it to us all. But after you pull your head out of your a@s. Could you please wipe the sh@t off you lips. So you won't be throwing it everywhere.

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#1.7 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:48 PM EDT

Hummmmmmmmmmmm ... would it be unlikely to suspect "foul play" & not just "fowl weather" in Southern Sudanese Mountains?

    #1.8 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

    Why would you request respect for him when he shows you as an american citizen no respect?

    And how has he shown you no respect?

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    #1.9 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

    @Gumps

    Comprehension is not one of your finer qualities is it...(notice not really a question).

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    #1.10 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:27 PM EDT

    netman, what respect have you given them?

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    #1.11 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:22 PM EDT
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    The article presents absolutely no information surrounding the crash: type of aircraft, day/night, weather conditions, crew qualifications, fuel status, yet begins to assign blame to the UNITED STATES because Sudan Airways "has been worn down by years of U.S. sanctions..." Why not blame Isaac Newton for "discovering" gravity and causing the airplane to fall out of the sky?

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    Reply#2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:43 AM EDT

    At least NBC News has the story. Right now, neither CNN or CBS has it. Amazingly, the state television network where I live is already reporting the crash, and they say TWO ministers were killed.

      #2.1 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:12 AM EDT

      The article did not assign any blame to the U.S. or anyone else; it merely mentioned the fact that there have been a couple of recent Sudan Airways crashes and that it has been worn down by years of U.S. sanctions and other issues. The article also indicated that it was unknown if the plane belonged to Sudan Airways. Try not jumping to irrational conclusions.

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      #2.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:15 AM EDT

      I could care less, just a few less intolerant Muslims to worry about!

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      #2.3 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

      Yeah but Gumps, it sure did imply it.

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      #2.4 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:42 AM EDT

      It sure did imply the US Gumps. Pull yer head out of yer a$$.

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      #2.5 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

      Well as for as the headline goes...there was a mention to "Bad Weather".

        #2.6 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

        Lostreligion....................your name speaks volumes

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        #2.7 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

        SalMonella could benefit from some remedial reading comprehension.

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        #2.8 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

        @flnoby

        Your degree in language skills are well above my diploma. Therefore It really would be a wasted effort to explain anything to you.

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        #2.9 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

        Your diploma? Tell us, are you a product of No Child Left Behind?

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        #2.10 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

        @Gumps

        I'm going to inform you with no retort afterwards that I do not square off with the mentally challenged. You seriously don't get it, do you...again no question.

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        #2.11 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

        Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me. Go cry to mommy, Netmanxps.

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        #2.12 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:06 PM EDT

        It was probably no accident

          #2.13 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:50 PM EDT
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          If aircraft are not maintained and pilots sent to recurrent training, this is what happens.

          As to the 'worn down' comment, the parts, service, and training are available to them from somewhere whether the US is engaged in sanctions or not.

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          Reply#3 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

          The parts are not actually available. It is the same situation in Iran. The US makes it illegal to sell parts to Sudan and will sanction any company and country that does so. So if a French company sells them parts, France will come under US sanctions, not the whole country just individual companies and banks in these cases.

          I used to live in Prague, Czech Republic and there was a hotel there where the US government banned Americans from using the coffee shop and restaurant (as well as actually staying in the hotel) because it had Libyan investors and the sanctions made it illegal for Americas to have any business with this hotel. The hotel of course didn't care, but if you used a credit card, you'd be caught when the US Treasury found out and even if you used cash the US Embassy in Prague occasionally sent people there to try to catch Americans violating the sanctions. Keep in mind this is a normal business hotel in the heart of Europe and you'd have no idea about the sanctions just from looking at it.

            #3.1 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:45 AM EDT
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            #3.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:50 AM EDT
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            in other news, two members of the Judson family and three members of the Kerker family got into a bar fight just outside of Sally's bar in Hurricane, Utah. Nobody suffered serious injury but the local Sheriff said that if this sort of violence continues, they will re-open the Jail. The Judge/Chief of Police/Coroner/meter-maid is in fits over the altercation, as his Sister is married to a Judson and his Brother is married to his Aunt, one of the Kerker's. Wow, what a mess we have here. The weather is forcast to be Sunny with isolated earthquakes and scattered mud flurries.

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            Reply#4 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:09 AM EDT

            AP/UPI This just in. Seems like the fued, that has been going on for over 250 years now, is escalating into dangerous territory. One of the Kerkers is reported to have "KICKED" the tires of one of the Juddsons trucks and then jumped into the bed and started to throw handfuls of hay at the driver, Jethro Judson. He sustained minor injuries. Suzy Anne Kerker spit tobacco juice on the door of the truck and showed her tooth, then allowed tobacco juice to drool from her lip in retaliation. It is said that if they start to bang 2x4's in the trash cans, the Utah National Guard will be called. Folks, "Why can't we all just get along". This fueding stuff is for 5th world countries, NOT the USA. Mr. Dangit Judson, the family leader, said if the Kerkers would just stop with the name callin', things might be able to settle down, but till then, they plan to meet hay throwin' with loud yellin'. Real loud, yellin'.

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            #4.1 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:39 AM EDT
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            Islamic karma is using sophisticated things like aircraft and wanting to live in a 10th century world.

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            Reply#5 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

            They were on their way to an islamist event.......LOL seems they just recieved devine justice.

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            Reply#6 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:16 AM EDT

            LOL seems they just recieved devine justice

            Yee ha, that there is some DEE-vine justice. Divine.

              #6.1 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

              Learn how to spell: received, not recieved. Twits.

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              #6.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:18 PM EDT
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              Maybe they should hijack NEW planes and stop pirating the cargo ships......DUH ! ! Or maybe they should just try to be decent humans and try to live in peace and harmony. Nah, they are animals and should be hunted down and destroyed.

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              Reply#7 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

              You do realize that Sudan and Somalia are different countries, right? Somalia is where the piracy is taking place. Sudan doesn't even share a border with Somalia.

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              #7.1 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

              Right Church.....wrong pew. Oh well, I guess I ought to get a map. But it's the thought that counts, right?

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              #7.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

              Have you ever been to Somalia or Sudan? (I have)

              To use a quote from The Russia House, "If a fella's written about the hill tribes of northern Burma, well, you're entitled to know if he's ever been further south than Minsk."

                #7.4 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:38 AM EDT
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                WOW!

                That's over 2300 virgins...all in one pop (pardon the pun)........

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                Reply#9 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

                The helicopter was carrying a government delegation to South Kordofan state for prayers on the first day of Eid al-Fitr, the festival marking the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan,

                Allah's will. The religion of pieces.

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                Reply#10 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:21 PM EDT

                Could be an Omen as to what lays ahead. Things in the middle east are in shambles to say the least. Brotherly love is hardly playing a role there these days.

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                Reply#11 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                come on NBC where is the pics of the "splatter matter" from the wreckage

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                Reply#12 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

                As pilots like to say, nothing worse than pulling back on the collector and running into a granite cloud. Always fun to know where your at and where the mountains are. They do have sophisticated electronics for this, but if you are from the 10 century you don't know how to operate them.

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                Reply#13 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

                I wonder if Al Kiter was behind this. Are these people with the 107 ugly virgins with dicks.

                  Reply#14 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

                  Do you think it might have been a suicide pilot flying them. It sound all too familiar with the suicide bombers all over in other places to me. With the way the different groups are in Africa and the Middle East. I just have a feeling this was not an accident!!

                    Reply#15 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

                    Sounds like maybe it's not a helicopter. "The plane, a Ukranian-made Antonov, according to state radio, crashed near Talodi near the border with the new nation of South Sudan. There were no survivors."

                      Reply#16 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:02 PM EDT
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                      Heep big bbq on mountainside, who cares.

                        Reply#18 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

                        I had all kinds of really hilarious comments about "...Mohamed must go to the mountain", etc., but you know, any helicopter crashing into a mountain isn't really all that funny. Of course, do Muslims call the "Jesus" nut something else? Or how about Buddhists, do they call it a "Karma" nut? Anyway, it's really not that funny of an event, so I'll stop.

                          Reply#19 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

                          OK, so what's the big deal here? We have an aircraft with muslims crashing & burning - par for the course, no?

                          Or maybe, just maybe, "it was the will of allah." Either way, no loss.

                            Reply#20 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

                            I'm not sure what everyone one is arguing about. Seems like the usual interwebs one upmanship going on. And for no real good reason

                            a) We have an aircraft filled with muslims, crashing, burning and killing all aboard, right? (heard THAT one before) - No big deal

                            b) Logic tells us, "it was the will of allah."

                            Done and done.

                              Reply#21 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                              Your bigotry is fed by your ignorance. Too bad - you can't fix stupid.

                                #21.1 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:49 PM EDT
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                                Maybe this Helicopter Pilot just got done reading a “Sarah Palin” book….became Confused, Irrational and Lost his Mind. It seems to be a “Side Effect”.

                                You BetCha….Fer Sure.

                                  Reply#22 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                                  Oh, and YOU'RE so persuasive with your tiny brain remarks.

                                  Pot: Kettle, you're black!

                                    #22.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:08 PM EDT
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                                    Do they get those virgins if they crash without killing any infidels?

                                      Reply#23 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:52 PM EDT
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                                      I am sure the Sudan will continue to thrive even with the loss of these servants of Allah.

                                        Reply#24 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

                                        Just like being a Republican - no difference.

                                          #24.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:09 PM EDT
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