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Sascha Schuermann / AP
Police in plain clothes load items into a vehicle which they found in an apartment of alleged neo-Nazis in Dortmund, Germany on Wednesday.
DUESSELDORF, Germany — Nearly 1,000 police officers raided clubhouses and apartments of known neo-Nazis in western Germany on Thursday after a ban was placed on three violent far-right groups in the country's most populous state.
Ralf Jaeger, interior minister of North-Rhine Westphalia, announced the ban as part of an intensified crackdown on neo-Nazis in the industrial state. Police searched 146 premises, confiscating weapons, computer hard drives and election posters of the far-right National Democratic Party (NPD).
"(The objects seized) expose the tight bonds within the far-right scene,'' Jaeger said, referring to the relationship between the NPD and groups of violent militants known as "Kameradschaften" -- or "comradeships."
Jaeger called the groups affected by the ban "xenophobic, racist and anti-Semitic,'' adding: "They employ fists and knives against their political opponents.''
Although no arrests were made, Jaeger said the seizures could bolster attempts to ban the NPD, which Germany's national intelligence agency says is racist, anti-Semitic, revisionist and inspired by Adolf Hitler's Nazi ideology.
Groups with explicit neo-Nazi ideology are prohibited in Germany, but the NPD has so far been able to skirt politicians' and security officials' attempts to ban it. One such attempt against the NPD failed in 2003 after witnesses in the case were exposed as intelligence agency informants.
"We will continue to crack down on these enemies of the state and tread on their black leather boots,'' Jaeger said, referring to the footwear popular among skinheads.
The NPD has representatives in two state assemblies — Saxony and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern — but not in the federal parliament.
It blames immigrants for crime and unemployment and its voters are mostly unemployed young men with little education.
Last December, state authorities in North-Rhine Westphalia set up a new unit in Dusseldorf to police far-right players after shocking disclosures that a secretive neo-Nazi cell based in the eastern state of Thuringia had murdered 10 people — eight of Turkish origin, one person of Greek origin, and a policewoman — between 2000 and 2007, according to a report by Deutsche-Welle.
DW reported that the state also set up special investigative units in Aachen and Dortmund as well as the Rhine River city of Cologne, where Jäger banned another far-right comradeship last May.
Reuters contributed to this report.
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A victory for humanity.
The simple-minded and uneducated find it easy to blame a race or group of people for all of the world's woes. This is because they don't know any better.
Their hateful beliefs completely fall apart under the lens of logic, of course, but unfortunately innocent people have been murdered in their name in the meantime.
"A victory for humanity."
Yes . I think you are right. Now the problem would be .. what to do with the simple minded uneducated Tea Party racists.
I actually disagree with the actions of Germany. They should crack down on violent groups but for the skinheads who aren't hurting anyone, who cares. Freedom means dealing with people who may have offensive views.
Skins heads never stop at "offensive views". It always ends up with some innocent person or people getting their @ss kicked or killed.
"And the people, they did not care, that their freedom's were lost over a period of years. All they knew of was a charismatic man, bringing a bright hope and better future. We followed him with no regrets. But after the war, we came to know his travesty's and evil's." ~ Freitag Wilhelm
A german citizen, who said, it all started small, lots of talk. Talk that turned to hatred towards those of non-aryan origins. And the blind eye people turned to, when the german army began to round up the jews.
Small words, can lead to worse actions. The mass german citizenry AND government refuse to go back down that road. And will make an example of any group that tries to take them back down that road.
Like the tea party.
I fully agree with Mike. I have always wondered why the "NEONAZIS were even allowed to exist sines they are NAZIs after all. We fought a world war to rid the earth of the villainous haters of humanity. The self glorious people that will adopt a culture to Kill all of those that they feel do not deserve to live. History has supplied plenty of examples of this self-righteous persecution of other humans to the point of actually killing others in the name of...God? Wait are talking about Muslims again? No of course not, just Germans that have a splinter group of people that feel in order to display a superiority they must follow an agenda of persecution and violent hate to the point of death... wait are we talking about early Christians and current day Muslims, why yes we are.
The early exporters of the Roman Catholic Church was, in fact the Dutch traders. The German government was one of the earliest supporters of the faith that created the idea of a race of superior people. all others must convert or die. These ideas came from the Hebrew Old Testament that Islam adopted in the 6th century, but that is another story about future religious abuses.
People do not equate skin heads with religion, but it is really a much closer link than you might imagine. I always felt the connection was a stretch and found it difficult to understand until I did some research. But once again, the old testament came through. The false science of Eugenitics was adopted by the early NAZIs and other "Superior Races". All it takes to be superior as it seems in history is to have an undisputed connection to the creator. How does one do this, you might ask?, It is simple, just make it so that anyone who disputes your claim to Divine Absolution, just kill them and your claim is validated.
Hitler was a failed painter, which means he was an Artist. His Mother was Jew and he wanted all Jews dead (Freud would have been so proud). He made deals with the
Pope as early as 1932 in order to give his Empire the religious foundation it would need to control the masses for generations to come.
Isn't history great? If we can just learn to read the map that we have created in the travels of human kind, we might be able to avoid the same pot holes along the way.
But there will always be some that will be stuck in their false truths and ideologies no matter how much human suffering is caused.
Lazarus
I is Billy
Guess you better be glad you live in the US then. The Germans are a bit different and they don't live under our Constitution. Germans have a lot of experience with the outcome of hatred. If not for the benevolence of the Allies there would be no Germany. As a previous poster said, they have no intention of going down that road again.
After reading your post I'm not so sure the Germans are wrong.
Heard a quote the other day: "if you would stop looking at the world through the prism of your own hatred you would be happier".
Oh, one other thing, 'politically correct' has a really bad rap from your ilk but it really just means civility. Something you seem to be lacking too.
Why doesn't this country ban gangs like MS13 or racist groups like the KKK or Black Panthers or La Raza?
I is Billy, This is a privately owned and operated website and there is no such thing as freedom of speech here just as if I were to walk into your house and profess the love of those you hate. Expect to be closed or even banned from this site for what you just posted. Not agreeing or disagreeing with you. It is just the way it is.
I don't understand how we have skinheads, neo-natzis or whatever you call them over here. Where did Americans get the idea to follow these secs from other countries. They may not even have any connections or anything over in Germany. This is what I don't understand.
There will always be hate, no connections needed. And hate is all skinheads/neo-Nazis are about, when you get down to it. These sad excuses for people just look for scapegoats and outlets for their anger.
Seewhat I mean188, remember there is the other sides, yes that is spelled correct, those that hate white people just as much as the above named groups hate color. We don't have to follow secs from other Countries we do well enough making our own up. Some are called militias.
Billy: As long as you don't break any rules, noone will ban you from this site. The constitution protects your right to be a stupid, ignorant, and hateful racist @!$%#, as does this site.
Notice in this article it said the "far right". Some haven't got that in their head yet. I was recently in Germany and actually visited Soldier Field where Hitler used to march his troops in the pictures you see on tv. What a place of evil. But they didn't knock it down or destroy it. In fact when you go to it or other museums you see Hitler frequently. Their attitude seems to be to not deny it or cover it up. It happened and it should be there for all to see and remember. If we remember that this only happened within the last 100 years we do not need to get all hoity toity and think it couldn't happen here. Hitler came up with all this good sounding propaganda and at first people liked him until it was too late. What concerns me about the right wing wackos in this country is that they seem to think just like Hitler.If you are not the right color (or economic status) you are inferior and you shouldn't have the same say in how we run things inour country or the same freedom to exercise your votes. And what is more troubling is the things that the republicans especially believe these days. If you talk to them they have this whole list of grievances that have been taught or relayed them by some vicious people and they really believe it. About how if Obama is reelected he will destroy our country! Baloney! What bothers me most of all is that this party used to say they were Christians. I hate to tell them that Christians do not bear false witness, are not to create disharmony and how they treat others regardless of color and economic status is very important to the one most high, God! In all their zeal and zest for power and influence they seem to have forgotten those very important commands. I dont remember if Hitler was religious or not but I know for sure that he was a radical right wacko.
So much for freedom of speech and association in Germany, where one can be arrested just for questioning the Holocaust. You can still be a "Nazi" over there, but only if you're an Ashkenazi!
@Stesiaus, Before the communist wall came down there were no Nazis in West Germany. The Nazi Party was outlawed. In East Blocked Germany they went underground, still existing but hiding from the Russians. When the Wall came down the Nazis emerged. I was there Before, when and after the Wall came down. It's easy to sit in your country and pass judgement in another country when you have never been there. I guess that it didn't take to long for the Nazis to think they were going to take over the country again like when Adolph was at the Helm. Brass knuckles, Blackjacks, and killing. If you think that the Germans are being to hard on the Nazis, they know first hand what they did to their country. They are not going to let that happen again. As far as I'm concerned wipping the KKK and Neo Nazis off the face of the Planet in Our Country is't such a bad idea.
Iisbilly wrote, in part, in post 1.8
"because they don't like reality, they want to live in a make believe world, not the real one where yes, certain groups of people do suck."
You're correct, billy. You, and people like you, certainly do suck. Seems like its only hatred which makes you feel like you're alive. You, and your ilk, are to be pitied.
@SanityCheck
In the rest of the world, the universal declaration of human rights also protects peoples rights to be racist @!$%#-quisling hybrids:
we need to do the same in america. Alot of european countries do things soooooo much better than america it's a shame we dont follow in their footsteps
Really? You want America to follow Europe? Europe's economy is doing terrible right now. The only European country that is doing good right now is Germany, but the only reason Germany is doing so good is because they have a leader with a Conservative mind on economics. Angela Merkel, the Prime Minister of Germany, is a Centre-Right leader that has Capitalistic idea's. She believes in low spending, something that our own president will never understand, and Private Enterprise. Merkel tries and tries to pass her beliefs on to other European leaders, but they don't listen to her. They just try to bully Germany into giving more money to Greece, a country that has been bankrupted by overspending. The reason German citizens are doing so well is because they don't consume more than they make. America over-consumes, while Germany Under-consumes. If America doesn't follow Germany's path, we will end up like Greece.
Also they have no military to pay for.
Yes, Europeans in general are a better class of people than Americans. I never realized the meaning of the phrase "Americans are pigs" until returning from my first visit to Europe years ago. I was like wow the people are more civilized and ACT more civilized than Americans. Lot healthier and not overweight either.
@ Random
Like we're doing any better than the Eurozone. When people start talking about being more like europe, the GOP decry "Look at europe, look at their problems, do you want those same problems."
We already had the same problems. Depending on which country you decide to MODEL yourself after, some countries in europe do a better job than america is. And i'm an american citizen. So yah, maybe we should be more like europe. Or even Canada. Because we're NOT doing such a good job with our own country right now.
Random: Conservatives believe in fiscal responsibilty? Strange our "last conservative" president created a 300 billion every year dollar drug plan unfunded, started 2 wars off budget and again unfunded and a 400 billion dollar a year tax cut that will probably go on for ever because repealing it would violate the Norquist pledge against raising taxes. The CBO determined that Bush programs were responsible for 5.4 trillion of our deficit and Obama for 1.4 trillion. 1.4 trillion of Obamas debt paying for Bushs drug plan, 1.6 trillion for Bush tax cuts republicans won't allow to expire and whatever his wars add. Is that really what you call being fiscally responsible?
How foolish of them not to follow in our foot steps such as having naval tonnage that exceeds the combined fleets of the next 17 largest countries combined and similar in our other forces. Maybe if our military wasn't so large we wouldn't find the need to have 900 bases over seas and stick our noses in every area and conflict in the world.
KeyOrion, read my last sentence.
" If America doesn't follow Germany's path, we will end up like Greece."
America should not be like Europe, but it should be more like Germany. All of Europe, except for Germany, spends money like crazy. If the Western world collapses, Germany will be the only country standing up (Economically). Unfortunately, no one wants to listen to Germany, not even our own president.
Random
Not 'all' of Europe. Look at Sweden, look at Denmark. They are actually much more socialistic, but their economies are doing fine, they have great healthcare, all the freedoms we have and more. 'All' of Europe is a really big place. Might do some research and not generalize so much. Perhaps get out more, travel. You will be surprised.
I'm not against being like Germany but in order to keep the dollar going you wouldn't like it. Germans don't complain because it gives them a life style comparible to ours. They have nice houses, apartments, cars, and they love to Barbeque. Something they learned from us.
The economies of Europe are starting to crumble because they all have such huge public sectors and many hand out programs. The only thing keeping them afloat is the lower tax rate they have on corps over there so companies can thrive more that way.
Larry,
Please stop believing talking points and do your own research. And I think not being allowed to speak at the RNC when he was president says a lot about what republicans thought about our "republican" leader. You guys just hate him because his fiscal policies were too close to your own.
And no one pays for tax cuts. You dont pay for money you dont take from someone.
I thought they were talking about the TEAPARTY, here in the good old USA.
Oh my made me laugh - but could be right - Tea Party / Nazis.....
I would advise against wishing the government to crack down on groups you disagree with. That sounds like totalitarianism.
Strange since the Tea Party is about less government, not more. Your ignorant hatred is pretty funny though.
haha, what's German for 'irony?'
....You know.....For Many Out there that don't know Wars or at least pretend to know....I'm Immune to your Talk.!...And that Not many know of German History....The real low down of what was what...!....All we know is of how Bad the Germans were in WW2...But it's problems started way before that...In WW1..When a Silly Prince Kaiser thought he could Out Smart The Brits...Read your History of Germany before you start to Open your mouth...Of course Today it's a Different story....Sure Immigrants take some of the Blames for it...But the Pay must be good too in Germany....And what about all that Vacations the Germans take for....And the Fast Cars...Some things in Germany are fine...Maybe the weather is odd...But the Last thing I want to hear is How Bad the Germans or Nazi's were....Because I feel and find that Everyone Had blood on there hands during the days of War.>!
Not sure of your point here. The Germans started WWI. After their defeat the Allies crippled them so badly it lead to such bad inflation that the people looked for solutions. The options given them were the same old party, the Communists and the Nazis. Hitler actually only won less than 1/3 of the vote but it was enough to make him Chancellor.
Hitler moved to consolidate the government and with a few 'staged' events was able to turn Germany into a totaleriatian government in less than a year. But the people loved him. He started building for war (which was against the Treaty of Versailles) and they has jobs, money and prospered.
Hitler also wanted to take his people's minds off their troubles so he stirred up HATE. Hate against the Jews. Old political trick, pick a minority, stir up the masses into a frenzy and then instill fear and loathing.
After the end of the war the people woke up and realized exactly how they had been manipulated. So today Germany is very cautious about fringe groups that use hate for a basis of their propaganda.
Hmm, sounds a lot like the US these days. Sometimes it is very good to KNOW real history.
dsb
You are incorrect in stating that Germany started WWI. The War was started by the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand -the heir of the Hapsburg Throne, i.e., the Austrian-Hungarian empire. His assassin was a Serbian named Prinzcip-Sorry for the incorrect spelling.
Mvet, the princes country had a Treaty with France and his murder fired up the French and Germany already had a plan for the invasion of France. England got into it because they had a Treaty with France. So off the English went.
Maybe we should do the same with our right-wing hate groups.
Start with the goper mobsters, then the NRA thugs. The teabaggers need some major attention, too, as their kangaroo judges in Texas call for armed violence against our duly elected government.
Right-wingers never did buy into the democracy idea if they could control everyone's lives at the point of a gun.
Typical Liberal, calling all right-wingers haters. You know, the real haters are the people that accuse other people of being haters. By the way, taxing the rich won't solve anything. You can tax the rich for 100% of their money and you still won't have enough at the end of the day. We have a serious spending problem, not a taxing problem.
We do have a spending problem, part of it is the high cost of military hardware and logistical support for wars. We also have a taxation problem, where those who make the most money purchase politicians to pass the law which protect their assets and place the burden on vanishing middle class. Your boy Romney is one of the biggest criminals in that regard. Plus he believes in a Galactic overlord called Xenu.
Random: If taxing the rich 100% wouldn't impact our deficit why would under Romneys numbers lowering the top rate from 35% to 25% cost 5 trillion over 10 years? Clearly if lowering taxes on the top by 10% costs 5 trillion then raising it by 10% would increase revenue by 5 trillion and that's not touching money they've already earned. Sounds like real money to me. And from the following article it seems to make more sense to raise taxes on the wealthiest than the bottom 50%.
March 7th, 2011 7:35 PM
The Forbes 400 vs. Everybody Else
According to the most recent information, the Forbes 400 now have a greater net worth than the bottom 50% of U.S. households combined.
400 people whose net worth exceeds the combined net worth of the bottom 160 million and they need a tax break?
What they're not telling you is 95% of the bottom 50% pay no taxes. They live off the teats of the 400. Is that fair? Helping those who try to help themselves is not the issue here. Helping those who never get enough "free stuff" is the problem.
Once again Archie Bunker, er I mean, Haley speaks a lie. Those people pay no Federal Income tax. The do pay state income taxes, property taxes if they have any, and sales taxes.
Heck, I wish I only paid 13% like Romney. Instead I pay 35%. Tax those rich.
@Random you don't make $40,000 a year and I bet they are paying you peanuts to blog here. You pay out peanuts you hire Monkeys.
Neo Nazis', really ? For what reason would anyone on this planet want to emulate a Nazi ?????? if i remember right , My father went over there ( D-day +3 , Omaha beach) fighting against hitler , and guess what , He LOST ! The Coward killed himself in defeat ! LOL ! Such a hero , huh ! Lets Not forget to mention the 6,000,000 + innocent men women & children were slaughtered because of his own personal HATE for thier culture. Go figure ! Sounds like someone in the German government has a conscience and or Morals ! :-) Now we still have peep's that wanna emulate him ? WTF is up with that ????
You're kidding, right? We have the same group here in the US.
Random pennsylvanian, go home! Nobody wants to hear your stupid rants. And please don't be careful, maybe you'll fall & break your POS neck!
You are a troll.
" And please don't be careful, maybe you'll fall & break your POS neck!"
Wow Brian, you Liberals sure are a "loving" group of people. Maybe when you learn to talk like an adult and not like a 16 year old douche bag, you can actually have an intelligent conversation with somebody.
Random
You know, we can only turn the other cheek so much before we get really tired of your type slapping us. Time to fight back.
Brian needs KY.. are you being intolerant of Random pennsylvanian??? SHAME SHAME ON YOU LITTLE LIBERAL... SHAME.
@ Random pennsylvania Something you obviously haven't heard about Germany, German citizens are taxed at the highest rate of all European countries. You'd love it there! Each and every German worker is taxed at least 35%. THAT'S why they have so much money for the Federal Government.
Unemployed, ignorant and violent ideologues with little education? Sounds like the majority of Bible Belt voters.
Or liberals
Wow..........these Republican TeaBilly Conservative Whackjobs were on Vaction in Germany?
What makes these Republican TeaBilly's so Evil and Violent? Is it da Sarah Palin Books?
Any word from the NRA?
Can u sing another tune besides Sarah Palin and NRA?
Well, the "teabilly" thing did kinda make me chuckle.
Funny how the dumbest ones on this thread seem to bash republicans for everything. I guess they arent getting enough free stuff.
Nazism was never extinguished in former German Democratic Republic (East Germany)- now when EU and eurozone (the very dream of Napoleon and Hitler- both losing in Russia.)and reunification of Germany certain nationalists tendendies having people found 'Nazism' (or totaliatarism) matching their own inadeqacies -real or imagined. The extreme right or ultra-right has ran for state parliaments and won- in Saxon. Meckleberg-Etu-Pommern i.e. They are xenophobist,ultranationalist,anti-immigration (EU-one can move and go w/o borders and work in anywhich country- or be a pensioneer in Spain or Greece )Rolf Jaeger the Interior Min. of State of Nordhein-Westfalen was behind the latest razzia- over 900 police who searched over 146 buildings in 32 localities confiscating the propaganda materiel,hard drives,many various weapons from these 3 nazi orgs 'Kameradschaft Aachen Land',' Nationale Widerstand Dortmun' 'Kameradschaft Hamm'. 2010 there were 25,000 Neo Nazis; 2011 -22,400; this year 9,500- 9,800..bearing in mind that some are living underground. Neo Nazis have been murdering 'foreigners'- they have staged their Nazi rallies- they have directly and indirectly intiminidated Hebrews (their doctor sympathizers behind ban for circumcisions) their Kameraden behind various laws banning certain foods. Nazism in Germany is verboten by law. For further reading go to http://www.nw-west.de/NRW_top_news/6980933_innenminister_verbietet
How did you keep the words Democratic<<<<<>>>>Republic together ? every time I have tried smoke comes out of my computer and the lights dim , then the words start moving apart
Maybe some of these people are just sick of the over abundance of immigrants coming into their small country and robbing their culture and ethnicity. I just wish tho that people could just be brave on their own and fight for themselves and their 'people' without always reverting back to Naziism. Like they are hiding behind a swatstika to be menacing.
No they're just stupid.
"Unemployed young men with little education". In other words liberal Demoncrats.
I wonder how many muslims they have allowed to come their country? I'm sure it can't be many. If so they aren't middle-eastern muslims, probably white.
SeewhatImean188 is just ridiculous, and obviously prejudiced against Germans. How many white Germans are living in the middle east?
Read an article what happened 20 yrs ago in the (former East) Germany- you'll understand the grave danger which extremes pose . Go to http://www.spiegel.de/international/press-review-on-the-german-right-wing-extremism.. article in English. A video of the raids in also in Der Spiegel..http://spiegel.dr/panorama/justiz/neonazi-razzia-kameradschaften-in-nordrehein-westfalen
Great, just don't expect the same back.
But why weren´t there arrests? It seems there could have been many arrested and on various serious criminal charges?Well I suppose the German police their reasons.Anyway this is good news!
its sad the whole world.....if we just sit, relax and think and just FEEL what is right.....if people would just look for this inside themselves...what you FEEL inside is right...I mean really, without any hauntings of words in your head...like .....NO, dont do this, or yes, do this its revenge for this. If people would just think about how what life could be like on this planet......we have so little time....and I think its too late now.
Think....is pornography RIGHT...is rape RIGHT, is murdering someone RIGHT, is having sex with someone else when you are devoted to one person RIGHT...is greed RIGHT? Why is honesty so hard in this world? If people have a conscious, and a good angel riding on their shoulder yelling in their ear. Than its right.
Do unicorns fly?
No, but 'Fairies' do.
israel needs to do the same to clamp down those ultra rightwing settlers who recently almost beat and lynch a Palestinian youth to deathr.
These ignoramuses, born long after the demise of the 3rd Reich and the deaths of millions of human beings by Hitler and his gangsters, need some lessons in truth. The "master race" ideology was as false and proven so in the 1936 Olympics held in Berlin.
Ayatollah
I know you hate Muslims but if you knew your history you would know that while Catholic Europe was wallowing in the Dark Ages, burning witches, torturing people, killing each other, that the Muslims were inventing algebra, developing the concept of zero, studying and making great strides into medicine, and many other scientific developments. They also preserved the work of the Greeks and Romans and made them available for all to study. All the while the Catholic church locked those same books up and tortured anyone who dared to even think about science.
Whether you want to admit it or not, the world owes a lot to the early Muslims. Its really sad, because all three of the world's big religions (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) actually worship the exact same God. The Muslims consider Jesus a prophet, right below Mohammad. It's not religion, it's tribal culture that created the issues between them. If God does exist I suspect he's not real happy with any of them.
Not Muslims... Arabs. Arabs that had not been ruined by yet-to-be-created islam.
I hope you got the Haar radical Nazi Group......... The leader is in the U.S. with several safe houses and Millions of Dollars in cash.............. The are aligned with a radical Muslim Group....... They both hate the U.S. Israel, Russia, etc. and are doing things now to ruin the infrastructures...........
And who determines that the NPD are "Neo-Nazis"....the NATO lackeys like Merkel that send German soldiers to help illegal alien Muslims from Albania steal Serbian land in Kosovo and fight an endless ground war in Afghanistan for Bush and Obama??? The Anglo-Americans whine about ethnic cleansing in Darfur, Sudan and Bosnia..but have no problem with millions of Germans and Hungarians losing their homes. The so-called German government are traitors that are willing to accept the loss of a third of Germany and follow America and Britain over the multi-cultural cliff!! The NPD are patriotic Germans that wish to restore ALL of Germany...and stop being a floor mat for NATO...that doesn't make them Neo-Nazis..that makes them patriots!!! Since 9-11 millions of Muslims have been allowed to move to America..and thanks to Obama even the illegal ones are allowed to stay...its to bad we don't have an NPD like party here...we NEED one!!!
NO FREE TRADE WITHOUT FULL EMPLOYMENT!!
LOL a nazi cheerleader.
Three cheers to Germany and to the German people. Deutschland uber alles!
Henrich von Dork; You tell 'em Adolf.
Fick dich ins Knie
Good for them. They know that if the crazy right fascists take over your country then there's war. They should do that here too before some crazy fool does something that they right will regret.
40% is waaay low. What they're forgetting is who practices their 2nd amendment rights. (Does "out of my cold dead hand" ring a bell libs)?
Wow Jackie.... So ironic how much YOU sound like Hitler...
After they do a little Cleaning up over there, maybe we can hire them to help do the same thing over here ??.. -being that the FBI, the CIA, the ATF, the Milatary and mainly the Politicians and Judges are so Enept in doing anything anywhere when it comes to Crime in this country !! S.W.A.T seems to be the only agency left with Cojones in facing these thugs and criminals, and Chicago needs a whole lot of these guys pretty much as soon as possible over there in light of what's happening !!!
Reading the various comments on different subjects is interesting. Especially when you run into a commenter who appears to be there forever, with comment after comment, with nothing really to say except expressions of hatred and venom. All that effort, and he doesn't even realize that nobody really gives a $hit about his opinions, but there he is, poor pathetic soul, hoping and praying for some little tidbit of recognition. What a pathetic life it is you live ayatollah.
I have always wondered why the "NEONAZIS were even allowed to exist since they are NAZIs after all. We fought a world war to rid the earth of the villainous haters of humanity. The self glorious people that will adopt a culture to Kill all of those that they feel do not deserve to live. History has supplied plenty of examples of this self-righteous persecution of other humans to the point of actually killing others in the name of...God? Wait are talking about Muslims again?
No of course not, just Germans that have a splinter group of people that feel in order to display a superiority they must follow an agenda of persecution and violent hate to the point of death... wait are we talking about early Christians and current day Muslims, why yes we are.
The early exporters of the Roman Catholic Church was, in fact the Dutch traders. The German government was one of the earliest supporters and exporters of the faith that created the idea of a race of superior people. All others must convert or die. These ideas came from the same Hebrew Old Testament that Islam adopted in the 6th century, but that is another story about future religious abuses.
People do not equate skin heads with religion, but it is really a much closer link than you might imagine. I always felt the connection was a stretch and found it difficult to understand until I did some research. But once again, the old testament came through. The false science of Eugenitics was adopted by the early NAZIs and other "Superior Races". All it takes to be superior as it seems in history is to have an undisputed connection to the creator. How does one do this, you might ask?, It is simple, just make it so that anyone who disputes your claim to Divine Absolution, just kill them and your claim is validated.
Hitler was a failed painter, which means he was an Artist. His Mother was Jew and he wanted all Jews dead (Freud would have been so proud). He made deals with the Pope as early as 1932 in order to give his Empire the religious foundation it would need to control the masses for generations to come.
Isn't history great? If we can just learn to read the map that we have created in the travels of human kind, we might be able to avoid the same pot holes along the way.
But there will always be some that will be stuck in their false truths and ideologies no matter how much human suffering is caused.
Lazarus
Ayatollah. They can exist because first of all they are humans and second of all because they are blessed by God. In church we learned that when Abraham was promised a child instead of waiting for his wife to have a child they got impatient and Abraham had a child with the maid/slave whatever. This was on the urging of Sarah. However when the baby was born Sarah grew jealous and banned the baby although the baby had been blessed by God. She finally had a baby who became the roots of the Christians as we know them. And and the other baby was blessed by God and became the roots of the muslims. That is why they can exist. According to the Bible. If you don't believe in God then what right do have to say you exist over anyone else. IMO you don't!And it also says in the Bible that we will be tested from time to time. I wonder how many are actually flunking the tests?