Israeli police taser attack on Palestinian caught on video

Graphic YouTube video shows Talal al-Sayyad being tasered repeatedly by Tel Aviv police while he is handcuffed and on the ground.

TEL AVIV – A Palestinian resident of East Jerusalem has filed a complaint of police misconduct after an officer shocked him six times with an electric taser gun at a water park in Tel Aviv on Tuesday.

He was handcuffed on the ground during the tasering, and his wife and five children were unfortunate onlookers. The whole incident was caught on video and has been making the rounds in the Israeli media.

It marks yet another example of high-profile violence by Israelis against Palestinians that has consumed media headlines here recently.


The incident
The Palestinian, Talal al-Sayyad, a 42-year-old receptionist at Al-Maqased Hospital in East Jerusalem, was at the water park celebrating the Id-al- Fitr holiday marking the end of Ramadan with his family.

The incident unfolded after the Tel Aviv police were called to the water park to control a brawl between two East Jerusalem families. The police used pepper spray to control one of the alleged participants in the fight. Sayyad, who was not involved in the brawl, attracted the officers’ attention because he approached them, with his 3-year-old son in his arms, to ask them to stop using the pepper spray so liberally.

Sayyad explained to NBC News in a phone interview what happened. “I said, ‘Please you scared my children, this young man had no involvement in the incident.’ The police officer raised the gun to my face and ordered me not to interfere,” Sayyad said.  

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At that point, he said he put his son on the ground and tried to explain to the police that the original fight was over and resolved. But that’s when the trouble really started. 

“He shot me with the electric gun. Even after I fell to the ground he shot me more and more,” said Sayyad. “They handcuffed me and every time I asked them not to shoot – because it was extremely painful – they shot me over and again repeatedly."

The graphic video above, shot by a witness, shows him being tasered repeatedly – even while a crowd of onlookers yell at the police officers to stop. One onlooker shouted, “Stop! You’re killing him!”

After the incident, Sayyad was taken for questioning by police from 12 p.m. to 7 p.m. The police accused him of attacking a police officer.

During questioning at the police station, a friend of Sayyad's brought the video of the incident to prove his innocence against the officers’ claim.

According to Sayyad, the interrogator responded to the video by saying, "I am sure you did not attack the police officer, but you were an obstacle to their operation.”

When NBC News reached out to the Tel Aviv police for comment, Mickey Rosenfeld, the police spokesperson said that the suspect attacked a police officer and that the video released was only a portion of the full incident. He added that the police action was justified because Sayyad presented a threat.

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz report on the incident included a slightly longer statement from the police: 

The Tel Aviv police said the film "was edited in a manner that does not reflect the complete picture. There was a massive brawl between two families from East Jerusalem, and several of the participants were wounded and had to be evacuated to receive treatment. Police officers who arrived at the scene were forced to separate the fighting sides and confront a crowd that incited all present to riot and impede the officers' work. The man in the film attacked the policeman and interfered with him in the line of duty. A Taser was used in order to control him."

Pattern of violence?
Sayyad’s incident was actually the third high-profile example of violence by Israelis directed at Palestinians in the last week.

A mob of dozens of Israeli Jews beat a 17-year-old Palestinian Arab until he was unconscious in the wee hours of Aug 17. The youth ended up in a coma for two days after the incident. Although there were hundreds of bystanders, reportedly nobody intervened to stop the beating, and that led to soul-searching by Israeli Jews. 

In another incident in Tel Aviv on Wednesday evening, three Palestinian East Jerusalem residents were attacked on their way back from a Tel Aviv beach as they stopped at a parking lot to ask for directions. One man suffered a head injury and required eight stitches and the other sustained light injuries. The assailants also damaged the victims' car. The victims say they contacted the police, but no officers were sent to the scene.

The recent violence has left many wondering if the incidents signal a larger trend.

The results of a survey conducted by the Friedrich-Ebert-Stiftung and Macro Center for Political Economics last year on young people in Israel seems to confirm fears that animosity among Israeli youth toward Palestinians is hardening.  

According to the study, 28 percent of Jewish Israelis ages 15 to 18 said the word “hatred” best expressed their feelings toward Arabs.  In addition, 72 percent said they definitely would not want Arab citizens of Israel living in their neighborhood, and 77 percent said they would be unwilling to invite an Arab to their homes.  

For Sayyad’s part, he is still suffering from injuries as a result of the tasering. But he believes the incident was part of a larger pattern of increased violence by Israelis against Arabs.  

 "Had I been Israeli, they wouldn't have done this to me. But when they heard me speaking in Arabic they used violence against me.”  

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Nice, easy way to start a Jihad riot. No wonder they hate each other, both sides treat each other like crap. It just the Israeli's this time, tommorow rockets will be flying towards Tel Aviv.

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#1 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

oh please, the palestinian was trying to provoke the cop deliberately. funny how this article mentions "violence by israelis against palestinians". let me ask you a question MSN, how many rockets were fired today from gaza to israel? where's the report on that? it's about 30 per day, in case you didn't feel like researching it.

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#1.1 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

hey rockmebritney what rockets man ??? and how come these rockets never hits any thing ??? I thing if my little boy had these rockets he probably can hit and damage more than these professionals terrorists that their job is to launch rockets ??? no body ever got hurt or died , you why my rock ??? because most of these Palestinians groups work for the mossad , do not act surprised , Just like these Alqiada rebels in Syria working for the Saudis and Qataris and armed by some Israelis arms , its a funny circle how these Intel's. work , these Palestinians fire rockets into Israel on the orders of the Israelis to keep the turmoil and then Israel can attack by their air force and bomb every thing in site . these rockets these dumb assss shoots , they just like fire works , they only make noise and then Israel make the real noise and they go and nock few of these honorable Palestinians leaders that most of them work for Israel any way , and when their job is done , they get knocked off by the back lash for the fire works , you se buddy this been going on for years , neither one of them wants peace , you know why ???? they make too much money this way , sounds crazy doesn't it ??? and so did the WMD's .

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#1.2 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

uh my turn-5304605, the rockets DO hit things. including people. frequently actually. the ones that dont either miss, or are blown up in route with a new system israel uses to explode them in air. i wonder, if mexico sent rockets to arizona daily, would you support the US doing nothing in retaliation? i'm pretty sure the US would annihilate them... and everyone would be patriotic. i seem to recall an incident on 9/11 which was followed by a retaliation by the US. this is just what happens in war. it just so happens these two parties are always at war.

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#1.4 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

Both side are idiots with a chip on their shoulders and it has been that way for centuries. I can't believe the restraint of the Israeli's with rockets coming over everyday. Their gunships blast them back from the air but get someone with a wild hair on a bad day and it's going to hit the fan.......

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#1.5 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

He should not of put the kid down and backed off. When it is not your fight you should usually stay out of it,especially when the worst was over. thats the guy that usaully gets hurt..

Im not defending the cops overreaction, but the guy could of got his message across at a further distance. Once I read he put the kid down, my thoughts on this changed.

Big brawl at the water park? lol East side!!! lol

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#1.6 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:31 PM EDT

His first mistake if looked at this right was to move up on the cops while they were doing their job with the first action.. people who come up on cops scolding them are likely going to be seen as confrontational... if you let one guy get that way with you then expect others and then your putting yourself in danger. SO you let the first guy have it to discourage anybody else who has the bright idea to come pester your Cop self. It was a smart move by the Cops.. jewish or not any cop would be ok in reacting this way. Remember if your in the Cops shoes you there to assert control and thus safety when people get stupid. The Cops did just that... SO DONT SCREW WITH COPS WHILE THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB.

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#1.7 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:23 AM EDT

If I were a police officer and I arrived at a scene of a large brawl going on, and someone began to confront me or any of the other officers on the scene, I would taser him too.

Just like any American police officer would do.

If you vocally or violently confront a cop, or obstruct him from doing his/her job, watch out!

Oh, and thanks for this breaking news out of the middle-east, MSNBC, how many dead in Syria yesterday? Two hundred?

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#1.8 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:57 AM EDT

Taser ? BS just shoot the fool... saves a lot of paperwork.

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#1.9 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:08 AM EDT

When will the police and military learn that, since Rodney King, someone could have a camera recording their actions. Don't do something stupid that you don't want others to see and everything will be just fine.

It's amazing how some police officers are so dumb as to commit acts unbecoming of an officer in front of their own police car camera. Doesn't matter if the joker deserved what was coming, it's the loss of control of the office that becomes the issue. Just like this incident. This man probably deserved to be tasered but it's now an issue because it's on video and can be edited like the ACORN tapes were to show the incident in a bad light.

    #1.10 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:41 AM EDT

    Must have had been quite a shocking experience for him! LOL I'm sure he deserved it!!!!

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    #1.11 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:48 AM EDT

    Whats amazing are the number of post that support such a senseless & brutal act by police ..... Anywhere! ...

    When it begins to happen to you and your families, lets see how you react..... Such senseless acts by authorities anywhere is what causes contempt & distrust of authority ...

    Shame on all of you that support such brutal and unproductive violence!

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    #1.12 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

    There is no way that was a double probe shot. If it was, he wouldn't have been able to move. Here in the states he would have been subdued after the initial deployment and handcuffed behind his back for control. The officers were more or less creating a more difficult situation by allowing the chaos to continue.

    Israeli Law Enforcement treats Palestinians like dogs. I heard it myself from a Tel Aviv officer here on exchange.

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    #1.13 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

    This is typical of how "jehovah's chosen people" treat the rest of humanity.

    You are kidding yourself if you think any of the rest of us would be immune

    to this treatment should they decide that "god" told them they could have all of America just as long as they killed everybody already here.

    (it worked for the "christians" when they came over here in 1492 and got rid of the "red savages")

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    #1.14 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

    Ironically, Goomba, you have just described islamists.

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    #1.15 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

    Now you know to listen when any police officer tell you to STOP! It's that simple!

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    #1.16 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

    @moonbeamracer, that's funny. I wonder if you have ever tried doing what they tell you? Probable not and that make it so sad.

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    #1.17 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

    Moonbeamracer said-(Whats amazing are the number of post that support such a senseless & brutal act by police ..... Anywhere!)

    Don't be surprised.The pro-Israelis come out in droves whenever Israeli wrongs are shown.They always post excuses for them. One of their favorites is the rocket stories.With the dozens of stories that you see in the news everyday,once and a while there is one about homemade rockets being fired from Gaza into Israel.Very rarely do you hear that they hit anything.And you never hear of any being fired from the West Bank,the home of 2/3rds of the Palestinians occupied by Israel.Gaza is the extreme case of Israeli/Palestinian violence,which is why the rockets are fired from there.But regardless of that situation,or the illegal Israeli occupation itself.The issue covered in this story was about the Jewish-Israeli civil violence spreading in Israel.It reminds anyone older than 20 of the racist South African apartheid violence.And for Americans of color the violence against blacks in the "Jim Crow" South.But for Israelis it should bring to mind the early Nazi years in Germany,with the casual racist violence allowed and even encouraged by the police and state government against Jews for the "crime" of being Jewish.You see in this report,and the others coming out that Arabs are being targeted for the crime of being Arab.More proof of the saying "those that forget history,are doomed to repeat it".

      #1.18 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

      Just because you don't hear about Arab violence against Jews (for the crime of being Jewish) does not mean that it's not happening.

      Actually it happens so often that the press does not bother writing about it, it's not just as much fun any more.

      You should do some research.

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      #1.19 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

      MSNBC should think about the very real financial price they will pay for their biased coverage of Israel.

      Enjoy your bias while you can MSNBC. You're going to pay where it hurts the most, in your bank account.

      A letter campaign to your advertisers is already in the works.

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      #1.20 - Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:54 AM EDT
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      Another very sketchy article by NBC Was this guy armed.Was he threatening ? Did he get mixed up in someone elses business? Was he wanted for a violent crime?.Is he a member of a terrorist group?? This is sloppy journalism until you have all the facts! Since 1948 when the Arabs rejected their own state ,they have been noted for extremely violent actions and terrorism.Time they go back to the negotiating table without preconditions!

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      Reply#2 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

      Hi Bart,

      Um, If the video and the lack of mention are not enough, then your questions have no real merit and no end. The man was caring his son, and wearing a swim suit, so unless he had a missile in his supporter, I'd assume he was un armed. Why didn't you ask if he was riding a horse and carrying flowers?

      As for the rest of your questions, its obvious you are looking for a justification. If any of these factors existed, (criminal record etc.) they would have been included in the police report. Might you be searching for a justification that does not exist?

      By the way, this man was an Israeli of Palestinian descent; kind of like being Italian-American, different language, different culture, name country of birth, same rights. What about all of those older European Jews that speak German, or Polish? or Gee, what do you the Jews from Ethiopia speak? His claims are that he was singled out because of his language (lots of Jewish folk are brown).

      There is no justification for what the police did to this man. You can argue that he should have stood down, and let the police do their business. The answer is that the man seems to have been correct. The police involved were not interested in stopping their use of pepper spray, even though the original fight was over and had been in another part of the water park to begin with. They were doing the "I have power! Watch me go!" thing.

      Mr. Sayyad would have been better off if he'd kept quiet. Israel, and the world would be better if more people spoke out.

      Just saying'

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      #2.1 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:38 PM EDT

      By the way, this man was an Israeli

      Looks like you didn't read the article thoroughly.

      "Had I been Israeli, they wouldn't have done this to me

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      #2.2 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:01 PM EDT

      Hi Kate,

      Looks like you're right. My bad. But then we come back to the problem at hand, the status of Palestinians in Israel.KInd of like Native-Americans in the US. Regardless, what happened was wrong.

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      #2.3 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

      I feel bad for the guy he probably has curly hair now.

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      #2.4 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

      "Bart Martin" asked "was he armed" ...yeah with his Kid ...guy! lol u serious!

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      #2.5 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:38 PM EDT

      If you think it's impossible for a guy with a kid to be armed or to be on the way to blow something up, you haven't done your homework on the Mideast crisis.

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      #2.6 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:42 AM EDT
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      This nothing compare to the Cluster bombs and every Illegal kind of bombs there is , they bomb Lebanon and Syria with , But its OK people , Its only the Israelis God chosen people , God gave them free hand to do what ever they want and to who ever they want , Its only going to get better after they bomb Iran .

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      Reply#3 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

      Hi My turn,

      OK, agreed, but this article is not about bombs in Lebanon and Syria. Its apparently about an un-armed citizen of Israel / father of Palestinian descent was was repeatedly tasered. If my friend Bob "O' Riley", father of three, American citizen of Irish descent, in Our Town USA gets tasered at the local swimming pool, are you going to start listing the excesses of the IRA in Ireland?

      Mr. Sayyad might have been better off if he'd said nothing, and let the police have their fun. But he's living in a country who's justification for existence is partly based on what can happen to a society when the police and authority go on unchecked. Racism is wrong, no matter who does it.

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      #3.1 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:51 PM EDT

      Mr. Sayyad might have been better off if he'd said nothing, and let the police have their fun.

      maninjapan78,

      Actually, he would have been better off if he had just let the police do their jobs. After all, the article states that there were 2 groups of Palestinians fighting each other in a park!

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      #3.2 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:56 AM EDT

      My turn...Israel.only bombs places aftr they are attacked by Islamic terrorists. Hamas and hezbollah are the main groups now.But in the past it was countries like Jordan. Egypt, Iraq,Lebanon,Syria and others who were attacking Israel.Iran, the sugar daddy of most Islamic terrorism will be attacked hopefully by a multi national coalition for international crimes agianst the peace and crimes against humanity..As for this guy that was attacked,he should have minded his own business.or accept the consequences of intervening in a fight between 2 groups in a very volutile area and confronting the police who are trying to control the situation!.

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      #3.3 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

      Those who hate America are bolstered by the treatment of Palestinians by Israel. Because of such incidents, fanatics are encouraged to kill and terrorize Americans and Israelis for our support of the avaricious and misguided policies of the Israeli government. , terrorists are elevated to the status of heroes and "freedom fighters" by much of the world. Because of such treatment of Palestinians, terrorists are viewed as heroes and freedom fighters by much of the world.

      Mob violence, f against Palestinians, the bulldozing of their homes and gardens, the constant and steady occupation and encroachment of Palestinians lands,

      because of such incidents. Such treatment of

      Israel's cruel and inhumane treatment of the Palestinian people and the European colonization of Palestinian lands has been condemned by every country on earth except the US. That, and that alone, is the reason Americans are no longer safe in their homes, businesses and travel.

      We are paying a dear price for our support of such policies. Americans and Israelis, unfortunately, will continue to pay that price until the rights of Palestinians are secure, until Palestinian lands are returned to Palestinians and Palestinians are returned to their lands.

        #3.4 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

        ntrim,

        That land does not belong to the "Palestinians",who are indistinguishable from the other Arabs in the M.E. The land of Israel, with Jerusalem as its capital, has belonged to the Jewish people for thousands of years and both history and archeology confirm that!

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        #3.5 - Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:55 AM EDT
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        Hey bart martin why do you need facts , hell since when we care about facts , this guy was with his family you dumb Bart , and since when NBC or any news Media are against Israel , look all these facts they are giving you in Syria , I think you right bart Assad did it , I know he did , he ordered these police men to do it , Assad you rascal you .

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        Reply#4 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

        martin fart is a renoun zionist apologist and will whitewash whatever crimes zionist bacons perpetrate.

          #4.1 - Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:57 PM EDT
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          It looks like this nice policeman could be considered a state employed thug and the rest of the police are making with the justifiable excuses to condone his actions. This also happens in other countries when the police act like thugs when they over re-act to a situation they have no training to control.

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          Reply#5 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

          YA ayotollah all these SOB's are terrorists kids and all , every where . Let's just Nuke them all , hell just let's nuke the rest of the world , and just leave us and Israel and if we have some people in this country that Netenyahu or Lieberman and Hillary and McCain and Graham do not like , Nuke them toooooo and then every body will live happy ever after .

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          Reply#7 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

          my turn,

          Try doing a reality check. Your comments may make more sense afterwards!

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          #7.1 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:03 AM EDT

          Hey my turn-5304605, I'd like to thank you. I've been looking for the biggest moron in the world & I can finally end my search. I'VE FOUND YOU!

          1. NBC & all of the rest of the liberal media do not like Israel. They are constantly looking for negative propaganda against Israel to report. This is the kind of thing they salivate over.

          2. After 60+ years of being attacked, it gets kind of old. They are tired of taking sh*t without retaliating. God forbid they protect themselves. As with the other (2) stories from earlier in the week, I'm sure there is more to the story. There ALWAYS is. It wasn't just "innocent" victims being attacked. It just makes for a better story to smear Israel.

          3. Every single day there are attacks on Israel. There are daily bombings & "lynchings", but our pathetic liberal media doesn't report it.

          Frankly, I have no idea why I'm spending so much time try to refute your ignorant comments & explain something to you that you could actually understand. I just don't know how to write in single syllable words.

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          #7.2 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:57 PM EDT
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          Thanks NBCNEWS, again your reporting shows your shallow point of view on whats going on in the middle east.

          You guys are pathetic get your information straight or don't put it online.

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          Reply#8 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

          Why bother print this article? This is not news. In Isreal teenagers are allowed to attempt to kill arab children by beating them near to death, they can taser them, they can shoot them, they can take their property, they can starve them, they can take away their vote, they can lock them in ghettos just like the Nazi's did, the can keep them from having hospital care, they can disrespect them at all times, they can keep foreign aid from coming in to help... should I go on? The jews of Israel are no better then the white trash of years gone by in South Africa. if the palistinians fight back or toss fire crackers they are called rockets... the Jews own the media and they HATE the arabs and use the United States as their personal piggy bank to fund their exterminiazation of the arabs in the land. That is the truth.

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          Reply#9 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

          AZ, those Israeli punks who beat up the Arab man were justly arrested...they were not allowed to do anything. And the Arabs are certainly not denied hospital care: Israel has the wonderful Hadassah Hospitals, which care for Jews and Arabs together...all supported by the Hadassah organization, which is the American women's Zionist group. So if you are trying to make wild charges don't let them get THAT wild.

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          #9.1 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:14 PM EDT
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          Justified my AZZZ. Police brutality in the finest sense of the word.

          This so called police officer should be fired immediately and his superiors reprimanded for backing his unjust actions.

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          Reply#10 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

          Modern day nazis. You would think they should know better on how to treat people. But then again Israel are after all modern day terrorists. The first to use terrorism against civilians, etc, etc.!

          Yes, you can tell me about all the atrocities committed by the Palestinians, but also tell me how many Palestinians have been killed by the Israelis. I suspect (know) the number is quite disproportionate.

          These fools are digging their own grave.

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          Reply#11 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

          Believe me, Hank, they Nazis were not using tasers on the Jews or any other victims...and they would not have used them even if they had been invented.

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          #11.1 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:15 PM EDT
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          This Israeli violence against Arabs is NOTHING NEW. It has been going on NON-STOP since before the founding of Israel. Just google "Stern Gang" or "Irgun" ... happy reading. Israel is a rogue nation, the spawn of Zionist terrorism, has shown by it's repugnant behavior that it belongs in the dust bin of history.

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          Reply#12 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

          Police are police no matter where they are, give them an inch they take a mile. This is really poor judgement on the part of the police. Of course they don't care, it seems.

          Given that you get what you give, this type of thing can't make things good for those that were in the wrong, whoever they are.

          But the black uniforms, this looks like something out of star wars.

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          Reply#13 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:02 PM EDT

          Has everyone else forgotten "Don't taze me, bro"? That plea appeared on t-shirts, after a boy uttered it to the police, who were using a taser. Oh, and the boy and the policeman were both Americans. In both cases, the police were using a weapon that was designed not to be fatal.

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          Reply#14 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

          Next time shut your mouth and mind your own business buddy.

          Rule number #1 never confront the police during a chaotic crime scene it's confusing enough for them and they are concerned for the safety of other people and themselves, not to mention they don't know if you're carrying a weapon.

          Rule number #2 if the police what your opinion they will ask for it. Once the situation is under control they will ask for witnesses. Until then you have no reason to interfere.

          Rule number #3 think about your own safety and that of your family if you happen to be caught in a violent brawl!

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          Reply#15 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

          Oops Sorry Kate, I voted for your comment when I meant to reply,

          Well, know we know. But if every one stands by like you suggest, I have a feeling that things like this will keep happening, and get worse. The police officer did not taze Mr Sayyad once. This was a sadistic power play.

          If the cops have weapons, then assume that they may not be on your side. Sounds pretty sad. But I hoipe that you are at least leaving the option of legal action against these happenings. Otherwise, you are suggesting and justifying a police-state, where the citizen has no rights of recourse.

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          #15.1 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:04 PM EDT

          Rule No4 lakekate : The police has obligations, notably to protect citizens and only use force when necessary.

          So stop blaming the victim and start blaming the perpetrator of the crime.

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          #15.2 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:33 PM EDT

          So stop blaming the victim and start blaming the perpetrator of the crime.

          The "perpetrator of the crime": the 2 Palestinian groups that were fighting each other in a family park!

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          #15.3 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:15 AM EDT
          Reply

          Just more benevolence from the only democracy in the Middle East.

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          Reply#16 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

          It's a small world after all. It gives me a cozy feeling to know that police are the same everywhere.

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          Reply#17 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:01 PM EDT

          Hi Kate,

          I couldn't get my post to go up as a reply so I'll out it here.

          Hi Kate, Looks like you're right. My bad. But then we come back to the problem at hand, the status of Palestinians in Israel. KInd of like Native-Americans in the US. Regardless, what happened was wrong.

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          Reply#18 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

          Those israeli police who tasered the palestinian boy are tomorrow's bacon. No defense by the apologist martin fart can whitewash their crime.

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          Reply#19 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

          The "boy" looks well in his thirties.

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          #19.1 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:17 PM EDT
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          Comment author avatarBaldenarioExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          When the police give a lawful order but you ignore it, expect to be TASERED, beaten, and perhaps shot for the betterment and enlightenment of others . . .

          The Israeli police did not start the brawl and ensuing chaos, but when they arrived they ended it . . .

          Calling this an "attack" by Israeli police is biased and racist in the extreme, but it is typical of the way members of the patently demented paramilitary Satanic cult of death, destruction, and hate called "Islam" proselytize, really . . .

          Really! :-o

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          Reply#20 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:30 PM EDT

          hey baldenario/American Taliban, go back to the Middle East where you belong!

            #20.1 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:36 PM EDT
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            do any of u know what its like when arab families brawl???????

            its a big violent mess. involving alot of violent arab men. these are not families of daddy mommy and 2 kids.

            it must have involved at least 10 men/teenagers.

            does any of u know what happens in arab nations when u "deal" with police???

            • 5 votes
            Reply#21 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

            Oops I voted when I meant to reply,

            Hi Ninja Frog,

            Well, I know a lot of Arab families that do not act in the manner that you speak of. I also know a lot of American families of assorted creeds that do "feud". We have histories of iconic "blood feuds" in our country, and a lot of those "clans" are European in origin. What is your point? You heard some-where that this was an easy talking point (sic) "Them there Arabs are violent" . Just because you repeat it here, are we supposed to nod and agree that somehow this justifies what happened?

            1) nowhere does it say, in this article, that the argument that led to the police intervention was An "Arab family brawl". You decided that all on your own.

            2) The article does say that Mr Sayyad was uninvolved in the "brawl".

            So what is your point?
            Somethings can't be justified. At best you could argue that the officer may have been dealing with some kind of stress issues, (Personal, emotional, or professional) and this led him to act in a dangerous and unjust fashion.
            Maybe the courts will decide to cut him (or her, I couldn't tell) some slack, because of the pressure associated with the job (we do need police).
            But
            Wrong is Wrong.

            • 1 vote
            #21.1 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

            If the incident that started this mess was between Jewish families (or even one Arab and other Jewish family), this would be specifically stated in the article.

            There is no way MSNBC would miss that kind of opportunity.

            • 2 votes
            #21.2 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:17 PM EDT
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            looks like the Israelis have been trained well by the American police state!

            • 2 votes
            Reply#22 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:38 PM EDT

            looks like the Israelis have been trained well by the American police state!

            Anyone notice that those who hate Israel also hate America as well!

            • 1 vote
            #22.1 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:25 PM EDT
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            lets say an israeli settler attacked a palestinian,,they'ed still find a way to blame it on the palestinian.

            wowhh officer watch out he put his kid down thats definently a sighn of agrression.

            • 7 votes
            Reply#23 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

            I watched the video, This is no kid. this is a grown man out with his family.
            The police officer looks like a kid perhaps in comparison.

            Mr. Sayyad also looked rather (IMHO) like a "middle class/nice/professional" kind of guy.
            The article suggests that problems started when the officer with the taser heard him speaking
            To his family in Arabic, thus allowing said officer to identify Mr Sayyad as "other".
            If this is true, (I don't know, but it should be investigated), then the officer seems to have
            Reacted in a racist or at least "culturally biased" manner.

            • 1 vote
            #23.1 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:04 AM EDT
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            If it was a settler who attacked a palestinian there police would still find a way to blame it on the palestinian.

            wohh watch out officer he put his kid down thats a sighn of agression.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#24 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:20 PM EDT

            "The incident unfolded after the Tel Aviv police were called to the water park to control a brawl between two East Jerusalem families."

            This statement sounds surprisingly like the classic "it all started when he hit me back".

            • 3 votes
            Reply#25 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:40 AM EDT

            you think thats cruel? come to NYC, you should never approach an officer that close, they use live ammo with no hesitation. If it was a Jewish bystander= no headlines, no news.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#26 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:53 AM EDT
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