'Hitler' clothing store in India sparks row

Ajit Solanki / AP

Indians walk past a shop named "Hitler" in Ahmedabad, India, on Wednesday.

The owner of an Indian men's clothing store whose name has sparked a row in Ahmedabad city in the western state of Gujarat said he only recently learned why the name Hitler would disturb people, the AFP news agency reported

"I didn't know how much the name would disturb people," Rajesh Shah told AFP. "It was only when the store opened I learned Hitler had killed six million people."

The store opened 10 days ago, boasting a storefront that spells out "Hitler" in big letters and a swastika as the dot on the "i."

"We had put up a cloth banner for over a month saying, 'Hitler opening shortly,' no one objected to the name then," Shah told The Times of India.


He added that to him Hitler was just the nickname given to his business partner's grandfather, who was known for his "strict nature."

"Frankly, till the time we applied for the trademark permission, I had only heard that Hitler was a strict man. It was only recently that we read about Hitler on the internet," Shah told The Times of India. 

Shah said he cannot afford to change the name after spending his money on the original branding effort, but said he'd be willing to change it if he were compensated. 

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The city's small Jewish community has condemned the name, AFP reported.

"In the city of Mahatma Gandhi and non-violence, how can anyone celebrate a person like Hitler who is known to have murdered millions of unarmed ordinary civilians?" Nikitin Contractor, convener of the Friends of Israel organization from Vadodara told The Times of India. 

"Youngsters need to be told of the atrocities that [Adolf] Hitler committed and the millions who were killed in gas chambers more than 70 years ago," he added.

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According to a BBC report, Hitler memorabilia has become a growing business in India, attracting particularly younger Indians. Many reportedly admire Hitler's discipline.

Prayag Thakkar, a 19-year-old student in Gujarat state, told the BBC: "I have idolized Hitler ever since I have had a sense of history. I admire his leadership qualities and his discipline."

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Who cares about name. Te store either has something you want or it does not. Do you think the name Obama would heve received a warmer welcome?

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Reply#26 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

How can you compare Obama to Hitler?

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#26.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

How can you compare Obama to Hitler?

Well lets see now.....they are both heads of state, or at lease Hitler was a head of state.

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#26.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:47 PM EDT

No Curious George I DON'T think a store called 'Obama' would receive a warm welcome from a Nation full of illiterate, self-hating Hitler junkies calling themselves 'Asians', most of whom are black as the Ace of Spades. I CANNOT make THIS make sense!

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#26.3 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:13 AM EDT
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I'd bet that if you polled the under 30 population in this country, you would be shocked to find that a significant percentage are like this shop keeper. Tthey have a bad vibe about the name Hitler, but could not tell you much about who Hitler was or really did.

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Reply#27 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

If anybody wants more detail about the fond of Swastik by the banned RSS , Hindu terrorist groups approach www.viduthalai.com. Teh editor of viduthalai discussed a lot about the Hindu fundamentalists and their fond of the symbol. You can see that symbol as a religious symbol for the secretarian Hindus that too a most unwanted symbol in the calm world. Because the race came from mid Asia as per the history.

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Reply#28 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

What are you? a communal riot instigator. Are you that store owner who wants to praise
Hitler or want to Insult Hinduism by twisting the facts? Get off the Internet.

    #28.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

    sundararajulu is right. He is stating facts about fundamentalist Hindus. If you are a fundamentalist Hindu and you feel insulted by it you cannot stop him from stating the facts. Moreover you cannot ask anyone to get off the internet. The internet is where everone can express their views and thank God for it, if not fundamentalists like you would be threatening all those you deem to be weak in order to suppress the truth.

      #28.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:14 PM EDT
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      Being an Indian, it feels disturbing that such stupid and ignorant people are able to go that far. What a
      disgrace to an Indians. He should learn that Evil in all forms have attractive
      quality which Good lacks, like a trap. He should let be slapped by his parents
      to bring his brains to its place. This store is symbol of hate and hate speech
      even toward Indians.

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      Reply#29 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

      Oh puh-leeeeease....don't you think your layin it on a bit thick there?? Everyone needs to stop imposing their Western sensitivities on people in Asia. Full stop.

      Millions of people in India consider the cow sacred, yet we don't hesitate to chomp a burger in their presence. Heck, we cheered on when cartoons offending Muslims were drawn and we cheered on when a quran was burned by a fundie pastor. Then we turn around and demand everyone else respect OUR sensitivities (e.g. - Ground Zero Mosque). No wonder the world hates us.

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      #29.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:44 PM EDT
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      "I didn't know how much the name would disturb people," Rajesh Shah told AFP. "It was only when the store opened I learned Hitler had killed six million people."

      If true, ignorance like that is kind of scary in and of itself.

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      Reply#30 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

      Yeah, he had no idea. Bet they never did teach about World War II in the schools there. Sure they didn't. Someone earlier mentioned Atilla the Hun, does the owner know who Atilla was? Genghis Khan? No. Yeah, right. I believe that. Now he wants someone to pay him to change his brand?! While he has a swastika embedded in the logo?!! Of course it had nothing to do with the kid's admiration of Hitler. Naw. Couldn't be he was trying to cash in on that, could it?

      We keep sending them American jobs, American money, American Technology....... We even allow them in the country to take classroom seats at universities we should be saving for our own people. And how have we been paid back? Other than making some stockholders richer in the short run? Anybody? How about Pakistan? China? Our business and political leaders seem to be more interested in the cash than in keeping American jobs and security.

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      Reply#31 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

      Huh?!, you nailed it! That's EXACTLY how I feel. My first impression was that getting 'compensation' to change his brand name plus world-wide free advertising in addition to some SERIOUS pot stirring was his sleazy agenda ALL ALONG. Didn't 'know' (more like didn't CARE) about Hitlers atrocities, I thought you guys from India were supposedly SO smart? Or is this just a case of 'selective intellect?'

        #31.1 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:34 AM EDT
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        Maybe someone can explain to him what "Kristallnacht" was while he sweeps up the broken glass from his firebombed storefront.

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        Reply#32 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

        Are you advocating terrorism?

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        #32.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

        Gee Joe, you sure can dilute the meaning of that one word with that one dumb question.

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        #32.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

        I diluted nothing. You expressed your wet dream of his store being firebombed quite succinctly and without ambiguity.....ya lil armchair terrorist you.

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        #32.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:56 PM EDT
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        Seriously, understand that everyone is not aware of massacres committed in the western world. Hitler was an evil villain who was a blot on humanity, BUT the holocaust is not well known in India. It is mentioned briefly, because in the History textbooks in Indian schools that period's history is concentrated on the Indian freedom struggle (India gained independence in 1947), partition, Gandhi etc. For a lot of Indians, Hitler was a guy who fought the British and almost brought them to their knees. One of India's celebrated freedom fighters actually collaborated with Hitler to fight the British who had by that time ruled India for 200 years. How many Americans know that the Swastika is a sacred symbol in India (which was hijacked by Hitler)and many Eastern countries. Ignorance is everywhere so stop your gasping and understand that there is a world outside of Western Hemisphere (how many Americans know of Pol Pot for example, or why the Hindu Kush mountains are named such). And before you go on about Indians being anti-semitic, understand that India has been the ONLY country in the world where Jews were NEVER harassed or discriminated against, ever. The majority of Indians generally have a very favorable view of Israel.

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        Reply#33 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

        Totally agree that Jews have been treated very well in India and continue to be. India considers Israel an ally. In the context of Islamic terrorism they both are fighting the same enemy and collaborating very well indeed.

          #33.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:29 PM EDT
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          BTW Joe, Are you advocating NAZISM?

            Reply#34 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:50 PM EDT

            I am advocating you not advocating terrorists to firebomb a store...nothing more. (quite poetic, no?)

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            #34.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:58 PM EDT

            One man's terrorism is another man's justice, you trolling jerk!

              #34.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:06 PM EDT

              So firebombing this man's storefront is justice?

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              #34.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

              One man's terrorism is another man's justice, you trolling jerk!

              So if someone walks up and shoots your kid in the head that could be another man's Justice?

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              #34.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:11 PM EDT
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              Dear huh, They know every thing and the importance of symbol. They have not just like that. Since they hailed from west Asia they have their affinity still. This is the main reason and they know the history well and that is their blood. Nobody can help. In India we are frequently writing about such atrocities in www.viduthalai.com to make an awareness about all these wrong things. But nobody is coming forward to comment like msn. Thank you

                Reply#35 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

                Well, All of you (Americans) stop rambling about India, first resolved your issues with American neo-nazis and white supremacists in you own country and then, just then, can take a part in discussions of other cultures, countries and societies. Deal?..

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                Reply#36 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

                This is a free world and we have the freedom to comment no matter what part of the world. While you have the freedom to comment about the weaknesses of America, Americans have the freedom to comment about weaknesses around the world. Unless people comment there is no hope for change where it is really required. Actually America controls its Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists better than India controls its Hindu Fundamentalists. Go look at videos on YouTubeto see how badly Hindu Fundamentalists treat people of other faiths in India which will shock anybody. A good part of the world is ignorant about these atrocities which are similar to what Hitler and his regime committed. What Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists in America do pales in comparison to what Hindu Fundamentalists do.

                  #36.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:45 PM EDT

                  AC, if people from India think we're SO politically incorrect WHY are there SO many people from India migrating here? I've been to India, it was hot, dirty, it stunk, the food made us sick, there were thundering hordes of filthy kids with head lice screaming at my family and I to "gimmie money, gimmie money, gimmie money Lady! Everywhere we went. Scary! Not to mention it's the ONLY place I've ever been where people poop in the street like it's NOTHING AT ALL. You got a LOT of nerve to put America down! And YOU probably live here yourself don't you? You know how we Americans feel... if you don't like it here... LEAVE! We got TONS of immigrants who don't snivel and ARE proud Americans NOT blue-black Neo Nazis.

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                  #36.2 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:56 AM EDT
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                  He had no idea about what went on during the days of Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE spare me on this one. Guess India prefers to stay a backward nation. Their own people fought along side the Allies against Hitler. Bring Uninformed is no excuse for STUPIDITY, I believe this guy knew exactly what he was doing. Yes the Swastika is an old ancient symbol, but now is only recognized as a part of a mad mans attempt to conquer all of Europe and possible the world, every few see it as anything else since the days of Hitler and the Nazi party. Mr. what every your name is fix the problem at your own expense.

                    Reply#37 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:59 PM EDT

                    "Yes the Swastika is an old ancient symbol, but now is only recognized as a part of a mad mans attempt to conquer all of Europe and possible the world, every few see it as anything else since the days of Hitler and the Nazi party. " @Margaret, you are as ignorant as the Hitler Store owner! Search up your facts. Swastika is widely used all over the East from India to Japan!

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                    #37.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:00 PM EDT
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                    The swastika is an ancient Indian symbol and the Nazi's did pervert it. However this Indian gentelman is doing the same thing by using it in conjunction with a mass murderer's name. And any of the young new generation who admire him must be incredibly stupid. I am an Indian by birth and an American by choice and am disgusted and ashamed that anyone from India is that ignorant that they would have so much respect for Hitler. This is why humans just never learn. How vile in the age of the internet to claim you do not know he killed 6 million+ people. He has enough money and knowledge to know how to run a business, market it, brand his "empire" and he claims he just found out what Hitler was about? Use the symbol and lose the Hitler part. It was WW II for crying out loud, how the heck do you not know why it was started?? It wasn't a regional war the whole freaking world was involved!! And even if, as some of the posters have stated, Hitler was not against Indians, who cares? He was against everyone else you morons. You can't pretend it is okay to respect Hitler because he only hated the Jews, Blacks, Gays and Gypsies. But he liked Indians so that is okay? Idiot. Outright Idiot.

                      Reply#38 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

                      I am an Indian by birth and an American by choice and am disgusted and ashamed that anyone from India is that ignorant that they would have so much respect for Hitler.

                      Why do you care? You are no longer a citizen of India.

                        #38.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:17 PM EDT

                        I am not a citizen of India but I care because I know lots of people in India who are not Fundamentalist Hindus and I would like them to be treated well. We are a global world and need to make sure people do not become extremists and deprive others of their basic human rights.

                          #38.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:53 PM EDT

                          Bimbo, no disrespect but you tend to come across as a naive Pollyanna "We are a global world and need to make sure people do not become extremists and deprive others of their basic human rights". You're KIDDING right? Tell me you're NOT serious with that line! War, bigotry, genocide, misogyny etc; wont end JUST cause YOU want it to.

                            #38.3 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:10 AM EDT
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                            He should open one in South Carolina right nex to The Klan Shop (aka The redneck Shop). They love that type of @!$%# in that @!$%#hole state.

                              Reply#39 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

                              Most of you people on here are so ignorant, you don't even know REAL facts! Only what you told by a CONTROLLED Education/Media System! And who controls them? DUH!

                              You all think "6 million" 'jews" died at the hands of Hitler, but your WRONG!

                              First of all that number was based upon 4 milling being killed in Auschwitz, yet probably NONE of you know that number was OFFICIALLY lowered to 1.2 million, yet the overall number has never gone down! DUH!

                              Seoncd if you did just a little REAL research you would see it you have ben lied to!

                              See the Leuchter Report that is confirmed up by the Krakow Institute.

                              See David Cole visits Auschwitz.

                              How many of you know that The Diary of Anne Frank was written AFTER the war by her Father, and another person, using a ball point pen that was not invented untill AFTER the war?

                              How many of you know that it is OFFICIALY noted that none of the so called "death camps" exited in Germany, ONLY in Poland that was taken over by the Soviet and not allowed to be inspected for years?

                              How many of you know Auschwitz so called "gas chamber" was rebuilt by the Communist AFTER the war?

                              There's much much more to prove the HOAX!

                              How many of you know that the "6 million" figure was tried, or talked about several times before WW2?

                              How many of you know about the Front Page of the March 24, 1933 Lonodn Daily express stating "judea declares war on Germany", or about the 1938 assassination of a German Official in Paris by a "jew"? You should also hear what Samuel Untemayer had to say later in 1933!

                              How many of you know that the "jewish" controlled Bolsheviks/Communist ACTUALLY murdered 40 to 60 million Russina/Ukraines, mainly Christians?

                              WAKE UP PEOPLE!

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                              #40 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:06 PM EDT
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                              Any of you know why Hitler is REALLY so dispized?

                              Because he took Germany off of Usury/Fractional Reserve Lending, and gave then a DEBT FREE CURRENCY, and "jews' don like it when you mess with their system/s of controlling "The People"!

                              Anyone know The Federal Reserve System is privately owned (jewish owned), and we pay them money to issue us our own money? DUH, WAKE UP!

                              Who owns Wallstreet, the MSM, etc? DUH!

                              Who really did 9/11, The USS LIberty, The Lavon Affair, etc.? DUH!

                              Learn some REAL FACTS!

                              WAKE UP PEOPLE!

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                              #40.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

                              Coo-coo. Coo-coo.

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                              #40.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:20 PM EDT

                              Larry

                              It's easy to call a person coo-coo when you don't even bother to learn the REAL FACTS, and depend on someone else with motives to tell you the "Victors" story!

                              Prove I am wrong in ANYTHING I have stated! Oh, and pointing out typo's are not proving I'm wrong about THE FACTS!

                              WAKE UP!

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                              #40.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

                              From the Net?

                              Everyone knows if it is on the net it must be true.

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                              #40.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

                              Larry

                              And what are my "motives" you may ask?

                              I am a US Army Veteran that swore a NEVER-ENDING Oath to the US Democratic Republic/Constitution/Bill of Rights (NOT government), and I am sick of my people being used and abused for BS!

                              WAKE UP!

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                              #40.5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

                              "How many of you know that it is OFFICIALY noted that none of the so called "death camps" exited in Germany"

                              Dachau?

                              Or was that a figment of imagination?

                                #40.6 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

                                Larry

                                These are FACTS that have been published not only on the "net", but in other sources! Look them up!

                                First look at the plack on the front of Auschwitz. Then go to the Simon Weisenthal Ist. site itself.

                                Then read some of the REAL books published, with scientific facts!

                                Then see what the International Red Cross had to say about the "camps", etc.!

                                Read the Nuremhmburg Transcripts themselves!

                                Then read Winston Churchills Books, or Eisenhowers books, not much on a so called "holocaust"!

                                Read what General Patton had to say about the Khazars, etc.!

                                There's much, much more!

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                                #40.7 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

                                BrianPatronie

                                Go to the Simon Wiesenthal Inst. website itself and see for yourself that ONLY the camps in Poland are listed as "Death Camps"!

                                And just to let you know it is now a known fact that Dachua was not a "Death Camp"! See for yourself!

                                And you people wonder why I say people on here are ignorant! You will believe anything you are told, if it comes from an "Authority Figure", or MSM, but not when someone can give you REAL information that disproves that "Authority Figure"!

                                Critcal Thinking People! Remember WMD in Iraq, etc.?

                                WAKE UP!

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                                #40.8 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                                "And just to let you know it is now known fact that Dachua was not a "Death Camp"! See for yourself!"

                                Actually I did about 5 years ago. Walked the whole place to include the "showers" and the ovens...

                                They maybe didn`t put up the numbers like Treblinka or Aushwitz but believe you me Dachau wasn`t exactly a health spa.

                                Oh, and m6?

                                It was the first death camp. In Germany. See for yourself.

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                                #40.9 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

                                BrianPatronie

                                Like I said see for yourself what the "experts" have to say about Dachua, and ALL the camps in Germany! It's OFFICIALLY acknowledged that Dachau WAS NOT a "death camp"!

                                And nobody said these people didn't suffer, which I believe with facts they brought on themselves! What I am saying is that we have been lied to about many of the facts, and if you want to know more you can find REAL FACTS! Stop depending on what "Authority Figures", and the MSM tells you!

                                Didn't you learn anything from the BS stories about WMD in Iraq? Oh by the way that "Intel" was given to us by israel! A picture they had (NEVER DID) of an Iraqi Official and M. Atta meeting in Prague exchanging anthrax, and the talk of yellowcake urainium, aluminum fuel rods, etc. via "Scooter" Libby, and girlfriend Judith Miller!

                                WAKE UP!

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                                #40.10 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:57 PM EDT

                                BrianPatronie

                                Take a GOOD LOOK at who made up the majority of the Soviet Communist Party ("jews"), and then take a GOOD LOOK at the political situation in Germany before and after Hitler was elected to power!

                                When you learn more facts things look a hell of a lot different!

                                Find out how many Russains/Ukraines were murdered by the Soviet Communist, and then ask why are the lives of 6 million (which is false anyway) so much more important than the 40 to 60 million (Mainly Christians) killed by the KOSHER Soviet Communists?

                                Then also ask why is it still more important than the ongoing millions of Palestinains that have been murdered and displaced? And did you know American Taxpayer money is paying for this PROVEN GENECIDE?

                                WAKE UP!

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                                #40.11 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:05 PM EDT

                                "It's OFFICIALLY acknowledged that Dachau WAS NOT a "death camp"!"

                                By whom exactly? Who is/are these OFFICIALS you speak of?

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                                #40.12 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:06 PM EDT

                                BrainPatronie

                                I answered that already, had you actually looked at my comments instead of letting emotion run your thoughts! That's why people can't get past the obvious lies!

                                Simon Weisenthal Inst. for one! Look it up!

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                                #40.13 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:11 PM EDT

                                Nah,

                                I`ll just go with Wiki;

                                "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_concentration_camp"

                                Afterall, If Himmler called it a concentration camp I`m not going to split hairs...

                                And if you want to argue the difference between "concentration" and "death" camp go right ahead, but you really need to get on that plane and see it for yourself. 70 years later if you can stand in that crematorium and declare Dachau wasn`t a death camp you my friend are bat@!$%# crazy...

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                                #40.14 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

                                Wiki? Are you kidding me? I guess no-one ever told you that is CONTROLLED!

                                Simon Weisenthal is supposed to be the premier "Nazi Hunting" in the world yet you would rather read something from a CONTROLLED source! Now I know what I'm dealing with here!

                                Duh, which way do we go yoggie!

                                No wonder why people don't learn ANYTHING in this country!

                                By the way you should take a look at the US Army Autopsies done on 'victims" in Germnay and see how they say NOT ONE died of "gassing"! I guess you still believe in the MYTH of human soap, lampshades of skin, shrunken heads, etc?

                                And you know I wish I go see these camps for myself, but as a 100% Disabled American Veteran (injured "In the line of duty") I can not afford to do this!

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                                #40.15 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

                                Did I tell you I was there in 2007?

                                I`m assuming you`ve never been.

                                You`re coo-coo for the Koolaid, y`know it?

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                                #40.16 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

                                BrainPatronie

                                Go back over my comments, and look up what I spoke about, NOT ON Wiki! You will see that I am correct!

                                Then look up "holocaust revisionism", or CODOH!

                                Truth fears no debate!

                                Learn something REAL!

                                Look at what I already said about someone calling someone else coo-coo, yet NOT looking up the facts!

                                Duh, which way do we go yoggie!

                                Is that what they taught you in "school"? I don't know about you, but I was taught to research things, and NOT just take things for granted, or on face value! It's called critical thinking! try it sometime!

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                                #40.17 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:35 PM EDT

                                'Is that what they taught you in "school"? I don't know about you, but I was taught to research things, and NOT just take things for granted, or on face value! It's called critical thinking! try it sometime!"

                                Y`know you probably don`t think Neil Armstrong walked on the moon either, huh?

                                "BrainPatronie

                                Go back over my comments, and look up what I spoke about, NOT ON Wiki! You will see that I am correct!"

                                Go back over mine pal, I WENT THERE! I WALKED THE GROUND! Are you actually trying to tell me it`s all a lie?

                                I think you need help.

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                                #40.18 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

                                BrainPatronie

                                "Y`know you probably don`t think Neil Armstrong walked on the moon either, huh?"

                                Very sound argument there yoggie!

                                "Go back over mine pal, I WENT THERE! I WALKED THE GROUND! Are you actually trying to tell me it`s all a lie?"

                                Tell me where I said it was ALL a lie! I presented you with FACTS that even you can look up, if you didn't let emotions rule your thinking, or Wiki! What's the matter afraid to find out you may have been lied to about some of these things?

                                "I think you need help."

                                Oh, I do huh, just because I know more about the REAL FACTS than you?

                                You know that "need help, seek help", etc. theme is very common when someone challenges anothers thinking/brainwashing! Some people refuse to believe PROVEN FACTS even when they're laid out to them! These people are the reason society never seems to grow!

                                Here's some more FACTS for you, look up The USS Liberty, and The Lavon Affair! Then look up who was actually arrested on 9/11, and after! Let me assure you it wasn't dem der moolims!

                                Then look up who owns "The Federal Reserve", and it aint us regular Americans or the US Government!

                                And yes it all fits together!

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                                #40.19 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:34 PM EDT

                                OMG Brian! See, THIS is WHY I DON'T reply to ANY of my posts. Whomever it is you're having this cyber-war with is having some PTSD issues, plus, he's giving me a headache wondering WHEN his head is gonna FINALLY explode? Who knew Holocaust deniers could even figure out HOW to 'Houdini' out of that straightjacket since they can't (wont) even accept REAL, TRUE, HISTORICAL FACTS? Is m6c next gonna claim he's Napoleon and he can prove it? LOLLL!!!!

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                                #40.20 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:33 AM EDT

                                OF COURSE Dauchau WASN'T a death camp! It was a five star Spa and Resort. Nope! Sorry can't do it! CAN'T/WONT delude myself that the NAZIs had clean hands during World War II. MY Dad fought in that war, the PICTURES (back then there was NO Photoshopping folks) I saw, the stories he told... my Dad was NEVER the same after what he endured. As a member of the Allied Forces, Dad and his outfit saw a LOT of carnage, misery, suffering and gratuitous EVIL. I guess NOW some idiots gonna say " The Jews did ALL that stuff to THEMSELVES, the poor Germans were unfairly maligned". Denying a CRUCIAL part of ANYONES history does a GREAT disservice to EVERYONES history. Now, WITHOUT using Wiki to cheat: Quick! In the next minute someone name the person who invented the traffic light. Big Clue, you'll NEVER FIND it ANY American History book. Know why? It's because that mans name is Mr. T.K. Knight, he was British AND BLACK!!! Like I said... denying a CRUCIAL part of ANYONES history does a GREAT disservice to EVERYONES history.

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                                #40.21 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:57 AM EDT

                                "denying a CRUCIAL part of ANYONES history does a GREAT disservice to EVERYONES history"

                                Well Said!

                                  #40.22 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 2:22 PM EDT
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                                  Here are some facts for you all...

                                  Here in the west, we do not learn much about eastern history (despite India and China having the oldest and among the most significant civilizations in history)....and we readily use names like Ghengis Khan as synonyms for just another strong leader.

                                  Similarly, in India, and probably the rest of China, they know very little about western history. There have been many tyrants in history and many horrific acts of genocide....for Indians, Hitler is just another one of these infamously strong leaders.

                                  Swastikas are an integral part of Indian and Hindu culture stretching back thousands of years...and can be found on many shops, temples, and every religious function.

                                  Don't condemn, just teach and spread knowledge.

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                                  Reply#41 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

                                  There's nothing to teach. Your view of history is objective. In recent decades, the American view has been skewed towards subjectivity so profoundly that we have a well-funded Holocaust Museum here for a genocide that took place in Europe but not even a @!$%#shack for the genocides of Native Americans or African slaves that took place on this continent. Go figure.

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                                  #41.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:53 PM EDT

                                  "but not even a @!$%#shack for the genocides of Native Americans or African slaves that took place on this continent. Go figure."

                                  Another place "Joe needs to go" is the National Mall...

                                  "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Museum_of_African_American_History_and_Culture"

                                  "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Museum_of_the_American_Indian"

                                  You need to get out more Joe, y`know, on the go?

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                                  #41.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:03 PM EDT

                                  Those Museums highlight the contributions, history, and culture of each respective group, whereas the Holocaust museum highlights the genocide. Thats not even comparable. It may have been comparable had I mentioned a Jewish Heritage Museum or something of that nature. What a dummy. Why don't you go read a book, Brian Jibroni.

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                                  #41.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:09 PM EDT

                                  LOL...struck a nerve huh?

                                  You even been there "on the go"? The National Mall? Or did you read about it in a book?

                                  All that AND you`re a sore loser, go figure...

                                    #41.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:25 PM EDT

                                    BrianPatronie

                                    LOL...struck a nerve huh?

                                    You even been there "on the go"? The National Mall? Or did you read about it in a book?

                                    All that AND you`re a sore loser, go figure...

                                    Find me one national museum dedicated to the memory of a Native American or African American genocide and I'll concede, jibroni. In the meantime, I grow weary of having to wipe your fecal residue from my size 12's.

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                                    #41.5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

                                    Admit it, you haven`t been to either museum, have you? What a loser...

                                    If you had you`d know there`s prominent exhibits and displays of man`s inhumanity to man. African, Native and European.

                                    And why would you collect someone`s fecal residue? To wipe it on what, you`re size 12 IQ? Or is that some ritual you and your size 12 pet sock share?

                                    Putz.

                                      #41.6 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:08 PM EDT

                                      So Jibroni, did you find any genocide museums for Native Americans of African Americans?

                                        #41.7 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:02 AM EDT

                                        Hey no go joe,

                                        Did you find a point?

                                        Or did you just need two or three hours off so you can thrill all your internet buddies with your new found knowledge?

                                        Putz.

                                          #41.8 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:10 AM EDT

                                          JoeOnTheGo PLEASE STOP now! Your pompous blowhard act IS infantile, irritating and mostly, ill informed. Evidently your wife just left and you have NO ONE to argue your convoluted views with, so you toss out some inflammatory bait specifically to antagonize someone/anyone and UNFORTUNATELY Brian (holding his own rather nicely, I might add) bit! Too bad, cause Brian seems decent and intelligent, now, if he could JUST STOP letting YOU push his buttons we could get this thread back on track. Personal politics aside.

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                                          #41.9 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:18 AM EDT
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                                          Didn't know? Sounds like a product of U.S. schools.

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                                          Reply#42 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

                                          This goes to prove the old adage: "Those who refuse to know their history are doomed to repeat it again" I find it amazing that this generation know nothing of the struggle of survival for the Europeans, Jews & Russians under the tyranny of Hitler. What a sad commentary on the teaching of history in today's schools. Then again it would not surprise me one bit, if in fact he did know, but chose to do it anyway because of the "free advertisement" it would bring him. As wild & out of control folks are today, eventually some sorry person will close it down for him. How sad. He is also an idiot.

                                            Reply#43 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

                                            As someone already said it, he probably had never used the Internet, we are so used to that think everyone else has access to it.

                                            But in school they tell you in History class at least what happened to Germany in the 1940's so one should at least recall that teacher's class.

                                              Reply#44 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

                                              As few folks pointed out, Indian Swastika is different from the skewed Nazi swastika. This shop owner obviously knows well about Hitler and appears to be a sadist or simply too insensitive to one of the worst genocides committed in the history of mankind. He needs help from a psychotherapist.

                                              However, those who are judging all Indians based on one person's act need help equally.

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                                              Reply#45 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:53 PM EDT

                                              The Bolshevik Jew Fu**s killed many more christians, so Hitler returned their evil on them tough sh** for the zionist scum

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                                              Reply#46 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

                                              JT, I didn't realize that SOME humans like dogs get rabies and go mad! You're foaming at the mouth.

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                                              #46.1 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:24 AM EDT
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                                              Well, America and Americans idolizes United Kingdom, a country that killed and oppressed millions of innocent unarmed Indians for two centuries. Look up "Jallianwalla bagh" in Google and you will know what I mean. I don't see anyone in the US or Israel condemning UK and avoiding. On the contrary, every time a British bimbo come to US with cockney english gets a warm reception and television stardom. Hitler did no wrong to India so why Indians should have problem with that name???

                                                Reply#47 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

                                                "Hitler did no wrong to India so why Indians should have problem with that name???"

                                                Because Hitler didn't reach that far because his troops were stretched trying to fight off the allies, otherwise he would have had the Nazis try to kill off the Hindus and Sikhs and scorage the land.

                                                On that, the UK might have commited attrocities during their occupation of India, but Americans did their fair share to the people they enslaved until slavery was outlawed and it still took another century before blacks were given equal rights. By now we should be learning from our mistakes and the mistakes of others.

                                                  #47.1 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:10 AM EDT
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                                                  LOL.. Americans barely know their History. Hey have no idea who Qin, Nero, Ghengis Khan, Attila, Robespierre, Tito would be and they expect India to know more about Hitler, especially when the people were not in direct conflict with Germany.

                                                  As usual, Americans can judge other cultures because they are the best in the world... Of course this guy knew.. At school,, if you'r lucky enough to go there, because of the CAST system, that's what you learn about History with WWII... The same as in the US, when you learn about WWI and WWII when nobody can really say what happened and why, or should I say, who was the good guy during the russian-japanese war.

                                                  Americans must think that all countries around the world use the same material used in US schools.. and yet, some students in Africa, Asia and Europe are still more educated than the average American student.

                                                  Here's a tip. Each country teach what they want. For example, Japan teaches their students that Japan hjas been attacked by the USA and Pearl Harbor was just a retaliation. Like the USA, each country do not have to teach something that did not happen in their country. Do you know what happened during the Boer war? No? India neither. If not knwowing this means that you're stupid, well, Americans too are stupid...because concentrations camps have been invented by the British, where 26000 women and women died.

                                                  And that would be fair to say that EVERYBODY in the world have access to internet. I wonder how Americans googled Mehmed VI.. After all, he's the one who commitd the Armenian genocide.

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                                                  Reply#48 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

                                                  This is why it can happen again! Failure to remember the past. What a shame!

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                                                  Reply#49 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:03 PM EDT

                                                  "It" HAS happened again, only you never took notice Rwanda ring a bell?

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                                                  #49.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:13 PM EDT

                                                  No he means Jews only. Other people don't count.

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                                                  #49.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:25 PM EDT

                                                  Remember the USS Liberty

                                                    #49.3 - Mon Sep 3, 2012 9:46 AM EDT
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                                                    Hitler killed a lot more than 6 million Jews... some say Hitler's "strict discipline" is responsible to the death of over 50 million people... Let's not forget the Gypsies, the homosexuals, the Slavic POWs and slave laborers, the mentally and physically disabled Germans, and everyone who fought against the Nazis' "strict discipline"...

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                                                    Reply#50 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:04 PM EDT

                                                    concerned reader

                                                    Quit spouting the KOSHER LIES! Learn some real facts!

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                                                    #50.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:23 PM EDT

                                                    Yeah, like Dachau wasn`t a death camp!

                                                    A dead Jew said so!

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                                                    #50.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

                                                    BrainPatronie

                                                    Are you saying the Simon Weisenthal Ist. is not reliable? Even they say Dachau WAS NOT a "death camp" and that NONE of the camps in Germany were "death camps"! ONLY ones in Poland are supposed to be "death camps"!

                                                    You keep arguing with me about this, but WILL NOT go to their site and see that I am right! That can be called willful ignorance, and proves you will not look up REAL FACTS because your afraid you could be wrong! In this case I know you are!

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                                                    #50.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:07 PM EDT
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