'Big enough for all of us': Clinton says US can work with China in Pacific

Jim Watson / AP

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks during an event on peace and security in the Pacific, in Rarotonga, Cook Islands, on Friday.

RAROTONGA, Cook Islands -- The United States will buttress security partnerships across the Pacific as it strengthens ties with island nations, but also hopes to work more closely with China as Beijing expands its own influence in the region, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said on Friday.

Clinton arrived in the tiny Pacific outpost of the Cook Islands for this year's Pacific Islands Forum, part of Washington's effort to woo nations across the Asia-Pacific which are increasingly coming under China's shadow.


Clinton told the gathering, which represents 16 independent and self-governing states ranging from Australia and New Zealand to smaller islands such as Tuvalu and Nauru, that the United States was in the region for the long haul.

But she also played down growing perceptions of a U.S.-China rivalry in the region, declaring "the Pacific is big enough for all of us" and dismissing the notion that expanded U.S. activity was "a hedge against particular countries."

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"We think it is important for the Pacific Island nations to have good relationships with as many partners as possible, and that includes China as well as the United States," Clinton told a news conference with New Zealand Prime Minister John Key.

"We want to see more international development projects that include the participation of China," Clinton said, citing disaster relief, maritime security and preserving bio-diversity.

"We think that there's a great opportunity to work with China and we're going to be looking for more ways to do that," she said.

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China's Vice Foreign Minister Cui Tiankai is also attending the Pacific forum and told reporters Beijing's presence in the Pacific was not about geo-political influence.

"We are here in this region not to seek any particular influence, still less dominance," Cui told a news conference before Clinton made her remarks.

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"We are here to work with island countries to achieve sustainable development, because both China and the Pacific island countries belong to the rank of developing countries.

"Although we are far away geographically, although we have different national conditions....we are faced with very similar tasks of achieving sustainable development, of improving the lives of our peoples."

$32 million in new aid
Despite her softer tone on China -- which comes just four days before she pays a visit to Beijing next week -- Clinton also sought to underscore the benefits of the "American model of partnership" in a region where China has in recent years dramatically stepped up its diplomacy and foreign assistance.

She announced more than $32 million in new U.S. programs on issues ranging from sustainable development, climate change and marine protection.

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But Clinton also stressed that the United States plays a crucial security role in the region, noting that the U.S. Coast Guard already has formal partnerships with nine Pacific Island nations and was working to build more as part of a broader "pivot" to the Asia-Pacific.

"All of us have an interest in maintaining peace and security in the Pacific," Clinton said, adding the United States was committed to helping fight illegal and unregulated shipping, patrol fishing grounds, and combat other human trafficking.

In a signal of Washington's security emphasis on the region, U.S. Pacific Command (PACOM) chief Admiral Samuel Locklear also traveled to Rarotonga to hail joint maritime exercises and cooperation on issues such as cleaning up unexploded ordinance left over from the Second World War.

"U.S. PACOM is committed to supporting our Pacific Island partners," Locklear said.

Rivalry with China
Clinton's trip to the South Pacific has spurred some criticism in China, where some commentators accused the United States of seeking to stir up trouble as Beijing's economic and political influence expands.

In recent trips to other regions of the world, most notably Africa, Clinton has sought to contrast the U.S. approach to cooperative economic development with other models such as China's, which focus more on condition-free loans and extractive industries such as mining and timber.

Beijing is financing projects across the region including constructing parliament buildings, airports, roads and hospitals and giving out grants for Chinese language instruction.

Clinton depicted these efforts, which some local analysts say appear aimed at building Beijing's influence in multilateral organizations such as the United Nations, as not necessarily at odds with U.S. interests -- although she pointedly noted that sometimes China's methods were open to criticism.

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"Here in the Pacific we want to see China act in a fair and transparent way," Clinton said.

The three-day visit by Clinton and the 60-odd person U.S. delegation to the Cook Islands - which is in free association with New Zealand - was a major event for the nation's main island of Rarotonga, which has only about 11,000 people.

"We are encouraged by you and your government's commitment to strengthen the United States government's engagement in our region," Cook Islands Prime Minister Henry Puna said in his welcoming remarks.

Clinton's trip will continue to Indonesia and China next week, where her new conciliatory tone will be put the test in talks expected to focus on rising tensions in the South China Sea where Beijing is at odds with several of its southern neighbors over territorial claims.

A summit of regional leaders in July failed to reach consensus on how to handle the disputes. Clinton will press them to find common ground and hash out a framework for negotiating with China, U.S. officials said.

One senior official told reporters that it was "absolutely manifest" that ASEAN nations find a way to deal with China. "It's not a matter of geo-strategy, it's a matter of geography," the official said.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to publicly preview the discussions, said Clinton would be stressing the U.S. view "that it is absolutely essential that cooler heads prevail in every capital and that great care be taken on these issues."

The U.S. takes no position on the sovereignty of the disputed territories, though some are claimed by allies such as South Korea, Japan and the Philippines as well as China, but "insists that they are dealt with diplomatically, without coercion (and) without the threat of the use of force." 

Clinton will finish the trip with stops in Brunei and East Timor before heading to the Russian port city of Vladivostok, where she will represent U.S. President Barack Obama at this year's Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit of regional leaders.

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China's goal is to dominate the region, especially in resources. However when you look at the map how they can claim such a large area is beyond belief. Only Japan has the resources to contest China, the other countries are out of luck but if they all get together they have a chance. China wants to deal with them separately for obvious reasons but the only chance for a fair settlement is for these countries to band together. Us getting in a pissing match with China serves no purpose for us, we dont need another USSR.

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#1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 7:32 AM EDT

But we will. Here we are handing out $32 million in porkulus for global warming programs and other nonsense overseas when we're $15 trillion in the red. Not to mention our military presence in South Korea, Japan, and Australia. Our interventionalist foreign policy is only going to stir up trouble in Asia just like it is in the Middle East and elsewhere while costing us billions the government doesn't even have to spend. This does not serve the interests of the American people.

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#1.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 7:36 AM EDT

FlatIron

It may not serve the American Peoples Interest. But it sure serves the interests of big oil and gas along with the military / industrial complex . We are just the suckers who must pay for it. The only question is how much money or blood will it cost ???? I forgot, there is GOLD in the Philippians that they will claim will cover all the cost. Much like Iraq's oil was suppose to cover the cost of that little matter.

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#1.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 8:05 AM EDT

China and the U.S. are sucking Mother Earth dry of fossil fuel. It is time for us to pull away from the oil nipple. One political party is holding on with both hands.

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#1.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:12 AM EDT

FlatIron72

Yeah.. that 1.3 TRILLION we handed out for the Iraqi war is proof of nonsense.

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#1.4 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

That's a pretty big assumption. China far from perfect has not been as expansionist as many paint. Granted a failed military attack on Vietnam some years ago and the current abuses in Tibet are properly described. Much of the rest is mislabeled, as trade relations with everybody have succeeded where boots on the ground by another power, US, is failing. New world, new rules.

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#1.5 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:43 AM EDT

Oh, to my little Irish-n-Green. Squire Darlin' would you be typing on your computer while cycling on a pedal driven generator? Or maybe you peddled down the the market on your lovely bicycle. I'm thinking you underestimate your own consumption of petroleum product. I guess your keyboard and computer were carved out of wood, were they now?

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#1.6 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

What's America's goal? Dominate the world (:- Who has hundreds of military bases around the world? Is it America or China? Who's conducting military exercises at others' doorsteps everyday? Is it America or China? Who's building missile monitoring/anti-missile facilities near others' doorsteps? Is it America or China? Who's the number one arms exporter? Is it America or China?

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#1.7 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

LOL.....

Clinton seems to be on a "tour" touting the United Natiions "Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST)". Meanwhile, China is pressing forward agressively to obtain "islands" in the Pacific Rim, probably as a "bargaining chip" prior to final vote on LOST.

Time for Mrs. Clinton to take her plane, and her Chief of Staff, back to Saudi Arabia for a quick visit:

I wonder if the photographers used a wide angel lens for the pictures.

Romney-Ryan to take back America from the radicals.

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#1.8 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

So Hillary just jets around the world doling out taxpapers money to other countries while America decays. Romney/Ryan, HOPE for America!

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#1.9 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

Mrs. C. where the heck are you getting all this money? Many have said if Clinton had won the election we would not be in this economic mess. For a time I agreed. Now I have looked back at the HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF$$ she has GIVEN away in her 4 years and realize that she is a large part of the problem. She has no concept of money. And if you think she cares about you think again!

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#1.10 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 2:47 PM EDT

Coco, what you think all this stuff is dollars? Most of it is surplus stuff that we have sitting around. We still have some land spots in the area from WWII. Yeh let them use that to monitor global warming. what the heck is $32 mill? That's like you measuring your Pay Check against Donald Trumps.

    #1.11 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

    Lots of words from Clinton solve nothing as China will resume its aggressive moves as soon as she leaves Asia. US needs to provide missiles to Vietnum, Philippiones, Malaysia to stop Chinese warships. Sinking aggressive Chinese vessels will not start a war if US stands firm to back them up. This will calm down the Chinese.

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    #1.12 - Sun Sep 2, 2012 1:40 AM EDT

    wow, even Ido and i agree on something today....(scares me "kidding")

    Ido's link is definatly something to look at, and it kind of helps to make more sense of what took place in Egypt,Tunisia,Libya, and now in Syria... there were medial leaks of people being executed who were supporters of those leaders, not just a few people, but thousands, murdered. WE only know what the government lets the media tell us, unless it slips thru the cracks.

    let me point out one thing it seems many, (to include those who work for us in our government), seem to be forgetting... you can knock down every single government building in the US, but the Government, it's people will never fall. one falls, 2 or more will stand in their place. (unless you are an exstreme liberal, then we will let you know when its safe to come out of the closet once again) we the people elect you into office, we can boot you out later.

    do i feel charges of treason should be brought on our current whitehouse occupants? i think it should be taken a serious looking into in the least. these last 4 yrs, not to mention the previous 6, have been anything less than questionable imo. doors closed at every meeting does not show me more transparancy, better run government,or anything other than a closed door in my face as well others who want to know what our future plans are. yet since the HCR debate, no door has been opened, and many more have been closed. The out of taxpayer pocket money used to keep our eyes and ears shut is bs, and government propaganda funds should be banned from all media outlets. maybe then, the people of the US can start getting a true, and honest story dropped onour doorstep with our morning coffee and breaded treat, instead of some whitehouse choped up piece of crap we get now. if you think we have freedom of press think again... it isnt free, if we pay to have the news kept from us.

    time we start dropping accountability on the presidential seats as well as senate, and congress. WE THE PEOPLE can change this...

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    #1.13 - Sun Sep 2, 2012 7:00 AM EDT

    ROMNEY/RYAN-2012!

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    #1.14 - Sun Sep 2, 2012 7:31 AM EDT

    Okay folks, reality check:

    China's real goal is economic dominance, not military. And the irony is that should their economic bubble burst - which will happen in our lifetime, bank on it - that will likely be the end of China's kinda-sorta-Communists (their take on communism is more in line with Confucius than with Marx or Lenin - which is part of the reason they never got on well with the Soviets), and with proper guidance - not meddling - from the rest of the world, a true democracy can emerge from the ashes.

    Now let's look at the 'territorial disputes' that China is involved in, in particular the Spratly Islands. There just isn't much there. Other than the possibility of oil, that is. The islands are theoretically owned by The Philippines, but both China and Vietnam have been trying to claim them for decades. The problem with the Spratly Islands is that developing the infrastructure necessary to exploit the resources that are there would be terribly expensive. The Chinese could probably do it, but they haven't been known to, how shall we say, share the wealth.

    One crazy irony of this dispute (one that probably won't go over well with Vietnam War vets) is that recently the US Navy conducted joint exercises with the Vietnamese and Philippine navies in the vicinity of the Spratly Islands. Meanwhile, the Philippine gov't has been announcing plans to (finally) develop the Spratly Islands by building a tourist resort there. But it wouldn't terribly surprise me if the Chinese simply made the Philippines a monetary offer for the islands that they'd be foolish to refuse.

    Now let's look at the military angle. China is not an existential threat - REPEAT - not an existential threat to the US. Remember when I said that the Chinese want economic dominance? You don't achieve that goal by killing off your customers, or making them so mad that they want a fight. And while China's People's Liberation Army is the largest in the world, they simply don't have the means to project that power very far beyond their borders. They could play havoc with the global economy by messing with Japan and/or South Korea, but that would provoke a response from the US that they wouldn't be able to repel. And let's face it, if you actually think that the Chinese could somehow invade, defeat, and occupy the US, you're probably a paranoid conspiracy theorist that's watched 'Red Dawn' waaay too many times.

    Relax, folks. Let the diplomats do their job.

      #1.15 - Sun Sep 2, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

      Paul Mcclure: China attacked India in the 60's and annexed part of their Northern parts and now occupies part of Kashmir. They are poised to jump into Afghanistan once we leave, which we will do eventually, Haliburton notwithstanding. China sees the whole of the far East and the Pacific area as their "manifest destiny" so I have no idea what Clinton is talking about. By sheer numbers, the Han Chinese are going to dominate, even with the one child policy. Also, the Chinese are partnering with governments in Africa regardless of their human rights records, to secure mineral wealth and advantageous trade arrangements. Only a matter of time.

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      #1.16 - Sun Sep 2, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

      They are poised to jump into Afghanistan once we leave, which we will do eventually

      umm they are there already conducting mineing operations... we havent left yet. we sold out to China with our childrens blood. this was under NObama policy.

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      #1.17 - Mon Sep 3, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

      When clinton is involved there is NO Good going to come from it... She is a $hit stirrer and her skeletons are wearing on her... Not only that the Chinese don't give a rats A$$ about her or her agenda. She is continually out of the country because abama's wife doesn't her either...

        #1.18 - Mon Sep 3, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

        China is winning a war without firing a shot. Exchanging mineral rights for parliament buildings, airports and soccer stadiums benefits China and the host nation. While the US provides military security at our cost in exchange for what? An ideology?

        While environmental extremists influence US policy, the Chinese continue to increase the exploration, mining and consumption of natural resources which tips the proverbial scale in their favor. At the same time, China is expanding its usage of renewable energy. That is execution of an "All of the Above" energy policy.

        China is partnering with other nations without pushing their Communist philosophy or political agenda. Sure, it is transparent that they want the natural resources. But, the host nation benefits as well. On the other hand, the US can militarily annihilate virtually most any other country in a month. But, the US insists on flawed attempts of nation building through democracy which contradicts the belief system that the people of these nations have held for centuries. We have a failed foreign policy which is contributing to our national debt which will pass $16 trillion today.

          #1.19 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:31 AM EDT

          My god, Hillary is scary looking as hell, even from a distance. The years have not been kind to her. I see why Bill is chasing young babes around. Well, I digress; it sounds like Hillary is telling our allies that if you start a ruckus with the Red Chinese, you are on your own. Hey, that will really instill loyalty among our allies especially in the areas of trust and confidence, and oh, we're by your side in time of threat, yeah right!

            #1.20 - Thu Sep 6, 2012 12:45 AM EDT
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            When Romney wins the election this Nov. Clinton will be shown the door right along with obama and the rest of his clan!.

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            Reply#2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 7:46 AM EDT
            K.HarsonDeleted
            plorkDeleted

            plork

            762 is a NATO round also. It is used in M-60's and M-14's also. 556 is an M-16 & AR-15 round. Just thought you might like to know that. 762 is also used in MINI GUNS.

            bob

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            #2.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 8:15 AM EDT
            plorkDeleted

            7.62x39 or 2x4 as I would call you, can you please stick to subject and take your hatred somewhere else?

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            #2.5 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

            what is wrong with this administration, no brainers, missing the middle east , china is big enemey to usa, do not trust china.

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            #2.6 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:37 AM EDT

            You mean, when Obama gets re-elected and Hillary continues as Secretary of State... She will continue reminded the world that 'Cowboy diplomacy' was a failure.

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            #2.7 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:49 AM EDT

            vince foster.

              #2.8 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

              Hilary says that she is quitting.

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              #2.9 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

              The Progressives are looking at putting self-proclained "Modern Day Progressive" Clinton on the 2016 ticket.

              Think it is bad now with Mr. Obama in office, just think what it would be like with "Modern Day Progressive" Clinton, with her flip flopping "not so family trustworthy" husband, in the White House.

              Romney-Ryan 2012 to take back America from the radicals.

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              #2.10 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

              and that is the day the new AG starts investigating Eric Holder

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              #2.11 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

              "Romney-Ryan 2012 to take back America from the radicals."
              What sophistry!

                #2.12 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

                @ Mary P.

                She (Hillary) has to quit if she ever wants to run for President. She can't fund-raise as long as she's Secretary of State. I wonder if that's why Obama appointed her? Either way, she still owes a ton of cash from her 2008 campaign.

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                #2.13 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 4:58 PM EDT
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                An excellent position for us to take, neutral, but interested in seeing that death and destruction should not determine any outcome. Greed for natural resources is understandable, but not settling claims in a diplomatic fashion becomes much too costly.

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                Reply#3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 7:56 AM EDT

                China will be the next super power. They should just call in the debt that the U.S. owes them.

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                Reply#4 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 8:11 AM EDT

                They are already a super power.

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                #4.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                They are collecting the debt, it's a trade debt, you pay it off every time you buy Made in China.

                  #4.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 4:56 PM EDT
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                  I feel so much better now that a Clinton is on the scene. God help us.

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                  Reply#5 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 8:16 AM EDT

                  Is that medal around her neck given to her for staying with Mr. B.J.?

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                  #5.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 8:24 AM EDT

                  Roy, she represents USA like it or not; republican or democrat, foreign policy of USA is dictated and payed for by business interest, she is just a messenger, she doesn't matter. So lay of her. Your prayer to God is irrelevant. And for wilman, please do not display your stupidity for world to see (you know that world is reading?) What in the world has her medallion, not medal to do with the seriousness of the subject?

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                  #5.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 8:59 AM EDT

                  Lad - That's right - God help us - we need it.

                  Just a messenger? What, she has a direct line to obama so he can tell her what to say? Please spew you're liberal agenda somewhere else, please.

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                  #5.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

                  Ladislaver, just an update from me to you. The Secretary of State is a member of the President's cabinet and is in the formal Chain-of-Command should something happen to the President (and the Vice President, and the Speaker of the House, and the pool guy, the valet,...and those two guys with sunglasses, etc.). And as you so astutely pointed out she does represent the united States. I concur that her wearing a medal/medallion/jewelry/talisman/voodoo button is irrelevant and praying to God for some specific political outcome is irrelevant too (of course praying to God worked out really well for Denver getting Payton Manning, but that's another subject). Ya know something? I find myself at opposite ends of the political discussion from you, but you're not such a bad guy (you are a guy, right? I mean not that it matters, it's more about using slang terms like Dude, or guy).

                    #5.4 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

                    Clinton is a member of the cabinet. She is the ONLY member of his cabinet that he meets with every week. She said in an interview (I saw it) that she meets every with Obama as her insistence every Thursday. She proudly stated that no matter where she is in the world she flies to DC meets with Obama and flies back. HUH? Good use of MY money...I think not. Obama has not met with the economic secretary in 7 months.

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                    #5.5 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

                    She flies to Washington every 7 Days? I guess it was ok for Congalita Rice to do it also? What a Screwball Lie, but if it makes you happy, there is another Screwball idiot somewhere that will belieave you though. What really surprises me is how 2 Screwballs can find one another. What are the odds?

                      #5.6 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 5:04 PM EDT
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                      I do not understand... Why are we providing any aid, nevertheless $32 mil, to this area. Doesn't china have enough? Both dems and Pubs are threatening cuts of vital services here then give aid to others?

                      For those that are nota aware Hillary is out at the election regardless of who get in... her choice.

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                      Reply#6 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:01 AM EDT

                      Jack..why are all the Presidential and Congressional candidates not bragging that they will cut foreign aid? I would listen very carefully to that candidate. A candidate that will tells us that Medicare and Social Security are not entitlements but paid retirement programs are worth a listen.

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                      #6.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

                      Aid doesn't always mean tangible items. It can mean setting up a diplomatic protocall to address issues before they occur. to help things run smooth. to help people get along. Yadda, Yadda.

                        #6.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 5:08 PM EDT
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                        The leaders in China have to be laughing so much they fell out of their chairs....... Its unfortunate Michele Obama could not have been the Secretary of State, for she has superior intelligence and her family values are open and honest.... Whereas it seems the Clinton marriage is coming to influence the whole world........

                        I think back to Franklin Roosevelt openly living with his girl friend while his spurned wife was forming the United Nations..... We see the results of History........ And what happened literally seconds ago is History; it cannot be changed

                        We now see illustrious Pres. Bill Clinton doing a political advertisement promoting the need for bank regulation, when it was him who demolished all regulations for banks, with Sandy Weill coaching him. If Pres. Obama hopes to win he had better re-think this ad.

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                        Reply#7 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

                        Michelle, are you kidding? The woman who said, "for the first time in her life she's proud of her country..." You are truly sick!

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                        #7.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:37 AM EDT

                        And Do Not forget about her eye rolling obnoxious behavior when the Marines were doing a flag folding ceremony... If she is so superior of intellect tell me WHY she didn't know about the flag folding???? HMMM.

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                        #7.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

                        Superior intellect is found by knowing how to fold a flag? Defeats the purpose of going to college doesn't it?

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                        #7.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

                        Clinton did quit the opposite and got us out of debt. Bush let them run loose and unsupervised. They said they could manage themselves. You have seen the results of that. If your going to talk @!$%# put the blame where it belongs.

                        You are a real Dirt Bag Racist, Mrs Obama is not running for President. I detest Romney and Ryan with a Passion but I don't pick on their spouses.

                          #7.4 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 5:15 PM EDT
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                          What would you expect her to say? China owns one-third of US debt. They tell US what to do.

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                          Reply#9 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

                          What would you expect her to say?

                          oh barry,oh barry, oh barry,.................bahhhhhhh......................?..........:)

                            #9.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:16 AM EDT

                            IA.ScooterTramp...I apologize, but I don't get the "oh barry, oh barry, oh barry...bahhhhhh....? thing. I mean it sounds funny but can you fill in some detail for this poor dullard?

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                            #9.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

                            That's nice comming from people that only Buy Made in China from Walmart. I understand that they thinking of changing their name to Romney World if he wins.

                              #9.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 5:19 PM EDT
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                              Hillary Clinton is the most underqualified Secretary of State! She has the blood of Vince Foster on her hands, one of her aids was seen leaving Fosters apt. with 2 briefcases on the morning of his 'suicide', she has been investigated by the FBI , her fingerprints on missing papers, she is the only First Lady to have to appear in front of a Grand Jury, she got her money to run for senate from money 'donated' to the Clinton Library from Denese Rich after Bill pardoned Marc Rich on the 11th hour of presidency, Whitewater to Donations scandal.

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                              Reply#10 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

                              hdarke...I'm no fan of the current Secretary of State...but I've seen worse (if you think about it, I think you'll agree with me). Hint: think UN and Iraq War, then think Somalia 1993, and well you get the idea.

                                #10.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                                Don't forget George Soros giving Clinton money for the senate race. That is one of the ways he got his foor in the door of the Democratic party. Now he and Valerie Jarrett call the shots.

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                                #10.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 3:07 PM EDT

                                And Sheldon Anderson won't let anyone inside the door of the Republican party unless they swear loyalty to him.

                                  #10.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 3:59 PM EDT
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                                  Getting back on topic, why would we want to work with China in any way, shape or form? All they do is ship us poisoned or inferior products made with slave labor! To hell with them!!!!!!

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                                  Reply#11 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

                                  Because they own us outright.

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                                  #11.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

                                  because they are an emerging power and working with them instead of against them is cheaper in the long run and could help avoid a major war duh? Do I really have to spell it out??

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                                  #11.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

                                  LR Lucas, watch your language, you are pi$$ing of Tim Cook, the president of Apple. Have you checked lately the labels on back of the items you are purchasing? Think about your statement next time you buy iPad, iPhone and computer made by HP, Apple and others to numerous to mention. And there is another thing, don't get mad at Chinese, direct you anger to those who are shipping the labor to Asia; they just take the jobs offered to them by US companies. You would do the same if you would be in need of job.

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                                  #11.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

                                  ladislaver

                                  You hit on a very strong point.

                                  That is SENDING our JOBS overseas and their use of slave labor. If they had kept those jobs here at home. Then our economy would still be growing and prosperous with low or NO national debt.

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                                  #11.4 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

                                  ladislaver, bob1/28,

                                  Manufacturers have been sending American jobs overseas since the 1950's. Those of us old enough to remember when we could buy American made "transistor radios"... then they started to import "that cheap Japanese junk". Then the Japanese started making knockoffs with their own brands on them.... of course we said nothing. Hell, the Japanese copied everything so well, they had the very same flaws and errors built in.

                                  Our out sourcing has progressed since and the ONLY ones responsible are the consumers that bought the product. Had the CONSUMER refused the import and instead spent the few pennies more for the domestic product, we would STILL be manufacturing the worlds products, instead of being the retail outlet for everyone else.

                                  Ask Greece how being a CONSUMER nation feels.

                                  And I would HOPE we stop China and it's ambitions BEFORE they get a blue water navy.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #11.5 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                                  XDm9mm Too late, China has a bluewater navy, they just need to practice with it a little, which I expect we'll see some flexing of Chinese muscle once the November elections are settled one way or the other.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #11.6 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

                                  bob1...what do you expect? Obama's economic and jobs czar is the CEO of GE. Since becoming czar he closed GE"s x-ray place in WI and shipped it to China. FYI the Janesville, WI paper stated that the Janesville GM plant was closed in April of 2009 NOT in Decmeber of 2008 as the Democrats have been saying.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #11.7 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

                                  Coco, Gm said they were going to close the plant in june 2008. Obama agreed that they couldnt sustain on their own, Ryan went to the plant and offered them $224 mill in a package that included $50 in tax cuts. they were aalso offered another $22 mill in grants. They turned this offer down as they already had planned to shut the plant down and finally closed the doos in 2009. If you going to tell something They already said in june 2008 they were closing the doors.

                                    #11.8 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

                                    XDm9mm

                                    Why don't you and your friends be the first to work for $1.00 per day. This is how you will help us compete.

                                      #11.9 - Mon Sep 3, 2012 5:18 PM EDT
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                                      qwykenDeleted

                                      Meeting is an excuse for her to avoid the Obama love in this week in NC. Also allows Bill to hit on Fluck, who needs to take the mattress off of her back when she speaks at the convention about how she has been going broke for 3 years of screwing while at law school.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#13 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:40 AM EDT

                                      congrats bob your only the second person i'm putting on ignore for your idiotic comments. There is literally no hope for the retardican party anymore all of them are idiots like you

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #13.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:49 AM EDT

                                      ANd congratulations to you Tiffany for once again proving that liberals are all for free speech when the person agrees with them but has to revert to infantile name-calling if anybody has an opposite viewpoint. Who then is the IDIOT? Dr Bob merely points out that which the entire world knows: Bill C is a sexual additct that prefers young gals and cigars and Fluck is becoming a prominent figure in the Democrati Party because she gets taxpayers to pay for her birth control which, she would not need, if she weren't screwing away in school.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #13.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

                                      Bill should be happy. Fluke is going to be at the convention at the personal invitation of Obama. Wonder if she has a handful of birth control pills paid with your money????

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #13.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 3:16 PM EDT
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                                      There is only one thing wrong with how this story was written. It should have started out, " Once upon a time".

                                      I was so happy to see we will gift out 32 million. I understand it is just a drop in the bucket of what Washington spends each year. Why happy? Well, I can only assume when I was asleep last night, our government at last passed a budget.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      Reply#14 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:57 AM EDT

                                      budget? budget? what's that? you and i may know the meaning but D.C. has never heard of the word.................:(

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #14.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:21 AM EDT
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                                      China does not own the United States. Ben can crank up the presses and print enough to pay off the deficit if he wanted. It would cause global panic, massive inflation and other problems that neither the Chinese or the United States citizens would want. It would end global financial trust and destroy wealth.

                                      Things will remain the same. The United States just needs to get out of a lot of the ongoing wars and learn to mind our own business. I go out of the way to purchase things made in the United States, even though it is more expensive. I save and save and finally get a quality product. I do buy some Japanese products.

                                      I will just be glad when we get honest and hard working people that really represent the citizens of the United States in the legislative offices. It sure is not Obama, Michelle, Biden or Clinton. In my opinion.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#15 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

                                      I
                                      don't want my tax dollars going to china no matter what. They will stab us in
                                      the back that is for sure and dominate us then the rest of the world. I don't
                                      want my purchased items coming from china either. Let them keep their stuff in
                                      china as they have killed many people in America with their poisoned paneling
                                      they sold contractors here==it was all over the news about a year ago duh. Also
                                      their items are not quality items at all. Bring back our businesses to AMERICA
                                      give us the jobs that are rightfully ours. Stop selling us down the river we
                                      never wanted that to be done by any President at all by the way the President
                                      in America does not have the right to make business deals with another country
                                      without asking WE THE PEOPLE what we want done it is our Country ya know. The
                                      President only holds the office not the keys--WE THE PEOPLE HOLD THE KEYS TO
                                      AMERICA AND DON'T FORGET IT.

                                      • 4 votes
                                      Reply#16 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:10 AM EDT

                                      WE THE PEOPLE HOLD THE KEYS TO
                                      AMERICA AND DON'T FORGET IT.

                                      If you still believe that my friend, you have been literally left in the dust. The only thing WE THE PEOPLE have left anymore is the false belief that WE are the ones who choose our leaders. Which pretty much is absolutely NOTHING, NADA!!

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #16.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:25 AM EDT

                                      @An American-3827362, with people like you, America is doomed without any enemy!

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #16.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

                                      An American... You wrote:"WE THE PEOPLE HOLD THE KEYS TO AMERICA AND DON'T FORGET IT." Keep on dreaming, or wake up, or what ever.

                                        #16.3 - Sun Sep 2, 2012 6:24 AM EDT
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                                        clinton sounds just like the politicians that sold us done the tube and set us up for the attack on pearl harbor in 1941. they tried to appease the japanese and where did it get us? she spends our money on trips faster than obama does.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#17 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:10 AM EDT

                                        Her crazy husband Bill sold us to China and third world countries. All my clothes and bedding is made in these countries. When are we going to help AMERICA? WHEN? The democrat politicians have got to go, period. To think at one time I was a democrat, (((shudder))). No matter what your agenda is, vote these people out, THEY ARE HURTING OUR COUNTRY AND OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        Reply#18 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

                                        The Conservative movement to Free Enterprise, is killing Fair Enterprise. Bush debt spending caused the present recession. Romney outsourcing promoted CHINA economic means, advanced the environmental extinction timetable through unregulated free enterprise, and stopped development of an economic infrastructure that enables USA assertions for liberty and fairness. We have a non-responsive and prejudiced house of tea leaf reader representatives. Throw the representatives out, encumbents need not appy. Liberal-ism and Conservative-ism is not causal to this state of affairs, corporate lobbying is.

                                        Romney is the problem.

                                          Reply#19 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:42 AM EDT

                                          No - people like you are the problem! Your myopic misplaced blame-game and your inability to entertain anyone else's opinion if it does not jive with your own is the manta of the Liberal Left AND the socialist-reformer/Marxists of Europe and the USA. In the USA, people have the freedom to live under bridges or become billionaires, they also have the free-will to make choices in life. Those that don't like the concept are the biggest threat to the freedom of our children and grandchildren. YOU would support the incumbant who is nothing more than a European style socialist reformer/marxist in an American suit that has done nothing but make excuses and blame everyone but himself for his failed policies in the last 3 years. He was elected to fix things NOT to woo illegals for the Democratic Party, NOT to homosexualize the military NOT to borrow money from China, NOT to play class warfare and race-baiting games and NOT to meddle in the foreign affairs of Middle Eastern nations and by doing so further enhancing the fundamental islaminization of the region. His platforms are exactly the same as key socialist/marxists like Francois Hollande in Europe, and if Obama were running for office in Europe he would be on a Socialist ballot.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #19.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

                                          bravo JP.bravo.............you may have a cookie.................

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                                          #19.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

                                          I object your unfounded statements:

                                          a) “inability to entertain anyone else's opinion” <= 'Liberal-ism and Conservative-ism is not causal...'

                                          b) “manta of Liberal left and socialist-reformer/Marxists”<='corporate lobbying is' (to
                                          blame).

                                          c) your exclusion of the middle class <= 'to live under bridges or become millionaires'

                                          d) I “would support the incumbent who is a...Marxist” also unfounded and incidentally misspelled. (I corrected both.)

                                          :)

                                            #19.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:44 PM EDT
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                                            Clinton as SoS has been extrordinary.

                                              Reply#20 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

                                              Go back to drinking your meth soaked kool-aid and read/watch something other than Newsweek or CNN like Das Spiegal or the Far Eastern Economic Review, unless you meant that Clinton has been as extroadinary as Sh_t on a Shingle. Then I agree with you.

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #20.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

                                              Gary Gnu's BS......It's losers like you that have put these GD traitors in the positions of power to destroy this once prosperous and great nation. OFF WITH YOUR HEADS, THE LOT OF YOU!!!!!!!!!

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #20.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

                                              Gary Gnu's News...help me out a little...what exactly is your definition of extrodinary?

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #20.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 12:46 PM EDT
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                                              Hillary looks old and bloated. Such a waste of time (and money) traveling and trying to deal with the leaders of countries who hate the US, either openly or behind the scenes.

                                              • 3 votes
                                              Reply#21 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                                              agreed....it certainly hasn't changed her appearance much..........:)

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                                              #21.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:29 AM EDT
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                                              Ok, a few comments other that the usual rantings and idiotic nonsense that always spews forth from the "lunatic fringe" - and you know who you are. First, China has one goal, pure and simple, to displace the USA as a world power and exert it's influence all over the globe at our expense. It is nothing more than the same old "world state" philosophy of Mao in a 21st millenia cloak. THIS is apparent when you examine the geopolitical and military expansion that China is pursuing all over the world. Yea - lets leave Korea, the Pacific, our allies in Asia and Afrfica and play the pre-1941 FDR "ostrich in the sand game". Only friggin idiots with no sense of history support this approach, and AGAIN you know who you are. Second, this administration has done nothing by kow-tow to China, Russia, and most of the Middle East since day one. Knocking off Taliban with drones and taking out Bid Laden does NOT impress anyone but our own media and the talking heads in Washington, and it certainly has not intimidated muslims radicals that are slowly taking over the body politic everywhere from Egypt to Syria. Great way to ensure world peace-support instability over stability and help those that want to kill us gain power a la "Arab Springs". What crap. The way the war is going in Afganistan proves this point. If anything, muslim fundamentalists from Egypt to the Phillipines have been emboldened by our "talk tough but carry a little stick" foreign strategy - or lack thereof. Finally, the last thing this administration wants to do is irritate a nation that owns about $5 trillion of our foreign debt just before an election or have China act out in Syria or Taiwan. You have to ask yourself, "would the USA be willing to "share the Pacific" under ANY previous President"??? I think not. Our foreign policy is NO foreign policy, and our national security stratefy is, well, "share" the world with thoses that want to dominate it.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              Reply#22 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

                                              If I keep one eye open and hold my hand over it, I might see the basis for your comments.

                                                #22.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

                                                "China has one goal, pure and simple, to displace the USA as a world power and exert it's influence all over the globe at our expense."

                                                And the GD idiots that runs this nation have laid the ability for them to do that on a golden platter at their feet. What a bunch of brain dead losers, and we put them in the cat bird seat! They are our own worst enemy by far and away over anyone else in the world. Our own damned government!

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #22.2 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

                                                You are your own worst enemy. China and other countries didn't force you to buy anything at gunpoint! America is number one not by entitlement. America is number one because early generations worked hard for it. If China wants to be the number one, she is entitled to work hard for it!

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #22.3 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

                                                "She's" not having to work too damned hard for it. Our own government, with EVERY administration involved since Jimmy Carter, has worked very hard at systematically selling this nation out to them and kicking it to the curb. If you believe anything different other than these cold hard facts, you are nothing more than a brain dead dolt just like them.

                                                  #22.4 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:51 PM EDT
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                                                  China's government may want to dominate the region, but the Federal government of the United States, and its financial supporters, want the it all. It's an old story; there's enough for everybody, after I take everything I want.

                                                  The people on Main Street all over the World couldn't give a rat's ass about this crap. They all want what we once had...control of their own government, and the freedom and prosperity that can afford.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  Reply#23 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

                                                  Domingo de la Torre, I disagree with your opinion, but what a great sign on name!

                                                    #23.1 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 12:48 PM EDT
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                                                    She leaves a money trail behind her a$$ everywhere she goes! The gubmint and the corporations, one and the same, have totally destroyed this nation by selling it out to China and now they are out there whining like a four yr old and at the same time throwing money at the smaller nations hand over fist that are being bought out by the very same nation that these freaking idiots sold ours out to in the first place. The gubmint of this nation is a F ing joke and it's own worst enemy. God bless America, whats left of it, and phuck the GD idiots that run it.

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                                                    Reply#24 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:58 AM EDT

                                                    Impose a pollution tax on coal being shipped to China, offer them a deal to reduce the tax as air pollution is reduced. We have no controll of what they pay their workers, but we can help controll how much pollution they spew. This would help drive up the cost of production in China helping make it a more playing field for American and other countries manufacturing businesses to compeat with china's lack of investments in the environmemt. Nobody shipped American jobs overseas, years of bipartisan trade agreements and treatise gave those jobs away. How did NAFTA work out? Please get rid of Hillary, for no other reason than being part of The Clinton Global Iniative. CGI paved the way for ethanol and other massive failures.

                                                      Reply#25 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

                                                      The only way to drive up cost of production in China is when the Chinese finally catches up with the USA in per capita GDP. Oh that would be sometime in 2084. In the meantime their wages shall remain a mere fration of the Americans. Any country that has lower wages than wealthy USAmericans are considered "slave labor". That includes over 90% of all countries in the world. After China becomes a middle income developed country in 2050, the what? There are countless emerging economies waiting for their chance in the sun. That includes India, Russia, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, Africa, South America. These countries are waiting in the wings to replace China in 30 years time. These emerging countries are where your jobs will go next. The jobs now in China will never to back to USAmerica, see?

                                                        #25.1 - Sun Sep 2, 2012 11:11 PM EDT

                                                        Impose polution tax on China goods, really? USAmerica is the No 1 worst poluter in the universe, do you know that? USAmercano polution per head is way way higher than China. USAmericano consumes more, polutes more, USAmerica is just 5% of world population yet consumes 30% of world's resourses. Next worst poluting country is Australia, her cows and sheep fart more carbon than any country, much much more than Chinese or Indians. China should impose export tax on goods sold to USAmericanos for its huge carbon footprint. USAmerican should be happy that Chinese goods sold to USAmericanos are not so cheap anymore.

                                                          #25.2 - Mon Sep 3, 2012 11:14 PM EDT
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                                                          Anyone know the ramifications of the EU giving the ECB the 'sole' authority to charter banks? To the European people I say; 'Say goodbye to your Nations Sovereignty, and hello to your version of our Fed.'

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                                                          Reply#26 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

                                                          dont you wish we could just keep on spending long after we're brole and have someone else pick up the tab?

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                                                          Reply#27 - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:10 AM EDT
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