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Jalaluddin Haqqani (R), the Taliban's minister for tribal affairs, points to a map of Afghanistan while his son Naziruddin looks on in Islamabad in October, 2001. The Haqqani insurgent group is named after its patriarch and founder Jalaluddin Haqqani, who was a legendary anti-Soviet mujahideen commander in the 1980s. Back then he was admired by the Americans.
Senior members of the Haqqani network said that the United States' designation of the militant group as terrorists could endanger the life of an American soldier thought to be in their custody and jeopardize peace talks.
"The Obama administration and U.S. military commanders know that their soldier Bowe Bergdahl is in our possession," a Haqqani commander told NBC News in a telephone interview from an undisclosed location on Friday. "He is in our custody, but his government failed to make any sincere effort for his release, and now this new development could add to his woes."
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This image grab from an undated video reportedly posted on the internet by Afghan militants on Dec. 25, 2009, allegedly shows U.S. soldier Bowe Robert Bergdahl, who was captured in Afghanistan around six months previously.
The Haqqanis, a Pashtun tribe with strongholds in southeastern Afghanistan and across the border in Pakistan, have been blamed for an attack on the U.S. Embassy in Kabul and other high-profile assaults in Afghanistan. The group is also believed to be holding U.S. Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was captured in 2009 in Afghanistan’s Paktika province, bordering Pakistan’s South Waziristan.
Members of the network say Bergdahl was handed over to the Taliban when a delegation of senior Taliban leaders began peace talks with the U.S. in Qatar in exchange for the top five Taliban commanders from Guantanamo Bay. After those talks failed, the Taliban sources told NBC News that Bergdahl was returned to the Haqqani network.
Report: US offers Taliban more for captive soldier
On Friday, U.S. officials announced that the Obama administration would formally designate the Haqqani network as a foreign terrorist organization. The move was part of a complicated political decision as the U.S. withdraws from Afghanistan and pushes for a reconciliation pact to end more than a decade of warfare.
But the move would only undermine the United States' efforts in the region, one of the Haqqani commanders told NBC News.
NYT: White House backs listing Haqqani militant group as terrorists, officials say
"How (will) their talks with the Taliban bring peace to Afghanistan when they declared us terrorists?" the commander, who asked to remain anonymous, said. "It would further increase their hardship and they should wait for more losses in the coming days."
Even as the United States takes down al Qaida leaders, one of the most lethal threats to U.S. troops in Afghanistan is a terror network based in Pakistan that America's outgoing top military leader says is an arm of our so-called ally, Pakistan. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton signed a report to Congress saying the network met criteria for a terrorist designation on Friday, State Department officials told reporters.
'Frustrated' dad of kidnapped US soldier takes action
The Obama administration has been trying to coax Afghanistan's fighting groups into peace talks, offering the prospect of a Qatar-based political office for insurgents and even the transfer of several prisoners being held at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Negotiations have been dormant for months, and the Haqqanis have been among the least interested in talking.
Designation by the State Department as a foreign terrorist organization would bring sanctions such as criminal penalties for anyone providing material support to the group and seizure of any assets in the United States.
The Haqqani commanders also told NBC News that they were part of the mainstream Afghan Taliban headed by Mulla Mohammad Omar and declaring them as a terrorist group would make it worse for the United States and its allies in in Afghanistan.
Rachel Maddow reports the breaking news of a video released by the Taliban which they claim is captured U.S. soldier Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl.
"We are fighters of Islam Emirate of Afghanistan led by our supreme leader Mulla Mohammad Omar," a senior commander said. "Our aim is to expel all the occupying forces from Afghanistan and install a purely Islamic government there."
The Pentagon welcomed the designation of the group as a terrorist group.
"The Haqqani Network represents a significant threat to U.S. national security and we will continue our aggressive military action against this threat," said George Little, Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, in a statement. "These new group designations will build on our efforts to degrade the Network's capacity to carry out attacks, including affecting fundraising abilities, targeting them with our military and intelligence resources, and pressing Pakistan to take action."
The United States accuses Pakistan's intelligence agency of supporting the Haqqani network and using it as a proxy in Afghanistan to gain leverage against the growing influence of its archrival, India.
Pakistan denies the allegations.
Photos: Pakistan -- A nation in turmoil
A senior Pakistani foreign ministry official, who asked to remain nameless because of the sensitivity of the issue, both denied claims that Pakistan was working with the network and dismissed the designation.
"If we are sponsoring the Haqqanis, which we are not because they cause more problems for Pakistan than anyone else, then only will this new labeling equate to something," he told NBC News. "No responsible person has proven that we are directing them in any way. Obviously there are contacts, but the U.S. has contacts for the purposes of negotiations, etc. too with these guys."
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So they are holding a captured American soldier and resent being called terrorists? Just what do they think they are?
This was exactly my thought. Who captures an American soldier and tries to bomb embassies in Afghanistan and thinks they won't be called terrorists?
And how exactly do you think YOU would be labeled by a foreign government if you captured and detained one of their soldiers in the United States after it was invaded?
The are worried about their accounts in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland.
"If you label us terrorists, will injure your military personal!" That'll be productive.
Wouldn't it make more sense to say, "We aren't terrorists. Look, we're releasing your soldier unharmed."
I thought I read the headline wrong at first !! You are holding someone against their will and threaten to kill hostages but don't call them a terrorist - that might tick them off and do something a terrorist might do. What else can you say about this useless bunch of terrorists...........
Yeah,the Islamists don`t like to be be called violent and if you dare call them that , they go beserk and mass murder to prove that YES they are violent. NO "sticks and stones .....but names can never hurt me".Call them a name and they go pyscho...No self criticism ..just mafia type pyscho violence !!
"Don't call me a terrorist or I'll act like a terrorist".
The bigger question in all of this is....what's Barry O' doing about it?
This decision should have been a no brainer, as should designating Pakistan as a state sponsor of terrorism. The Pakistanis have been laughing at the US for a long time. They pretend to be our friends to our face so that our government will send them billions of dollars in aid while they turn around and provide support to terrorist organizations that are killing our service members on an almost daily basis. The Pakistani ISI is basically an intelligence organization for the terrorists. They routine feed intelligence information to the terrorists that they use to attack our troops. We need to stop playing this stupid game with Pakistan. We should go in, secure all of their nuke, and then destroy their capability to build more. Allowing an unstable country like Pakistan to have nuclear weapons is just tempting fate. It is only a matter of time before one of those weapons ends up in the hands of terrorists.
The Haqqanis openly admit that they are allied with, and even part of al Qaeda. This clearly makes them a terrorist organization. The fact that they are holding a US service member hostage only further reinforces the view that they are terrorists. They should not be at all surprised by this designation and based on their attitudes and actions, I would have thought they would view it as a badge of honor. I guess the economic impacts of the designation are going to have a big impact on them and this is why it bothers them so much.
Zmn shhhhhhhhhhhhhh it's a secret
Don't call me a terrorist!
You know I'm a defense, I mean offense, or should I just say contractor?
Maybe you should just call us "freedom fighters!"
Never mind, call us whatever you want, just put the money in the bank.
ZMan2012
The bigger question in all of this is....what's Barry O' doing about it?
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----------Oh my evangelical God, what oh what is he doing? The horrors of Barry O. Yes, the bigger question, certainly not the question of why we are there in the first place, that doesn't matter any more.
Thank God for people like Zman. to call our attention to the opportunities to make completely stupid comments in disregard of reality. Zman, Z = zero?
Meet the Fockers.
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” ~George Orwell
Wall Street Terrorists In The Mainstain Media Out Terrorizing Americans Once Again!
Nothing but Disinformation Nonsense and Propaganda Stories once again just trying to justify another Wall Street UN Globalist Sponsored Intervention using OUR BLOOD & TREASURE In Support Of Al-Qaeda.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/01/us-usa-syria-obama-order-idUSBRE8701OK20120801
Just like the Daraya Massacre last week that the Wall Street Controlled Mainstain Media Blamed on the Syria Army which come to find out was committed by the British Special Air Services Trained & Lead Al-Qaeda Fighters operating under the Misnomer of the Free Syria Army!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-inside-daraya--how-a-failed-prisoner-swap-turned-into-a-massacre-8084727.html
Even NBC News "Blamed" This War Crime On Syria! Instead of POMPUS Obama's Secret Support Of Al-Qaeda We Should Be Assisting Syria in EXTERMINATING THEM!
Here's a Link To A New PBS Documentary that shows what this is REALLY All About............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I
America Forget the Election......If Bumbling Barry Gets US Into One More NOT WAR For Corporate Fun & Profits....DEMAND THE.... IMPEACHMENT.....OF WALL STREETS....#1 FACEMAN!
Corporate Wall Streets.....Constant Lies About Syria Iran & Pakistan......Just Three More Reasons.....To Refuse To Re-Elect...ANY....Democrat / Republican Incumbent.....For None Of Them....Deserve To Be.....REWARDED!
Especially I don't Got No Stinking NOBODY Obama!
Capture them, put em' at Guantanamo and let em' eat cockmeat sandwiches! Hell with their rights!
OK...so if I understand this article, they are threatening an "act of terrorism" if we classify them as terrorists.
I think I see a drone in their future...
Hell with their rights! Which is the EXACT SAME THING These NOT WAR Wall Street Banksters RUINNING Our Government Say About US!
Hmmm I wonder where they got that Attitude from?
I think I see a drone in their future...And Now OURS!
Has peace ever been in their vocabulary.
MUW - No cure but daily medication might help.
Zman,
Since Barry has been in office the Iraq war has ended, Bin Laden is dead and the war in Afghanistan is winding down. We have no idea what is going on behind the scenes trying to free Pfc. Bergdahl. I am sure there are both diplomatic and covert actions being taken to try and free him. Any other silly questions?
Let's go in get him out first. Then we pull out all troops and cut off all funds. Once the golden goose is gone the next thing they'll do is cry poverty and that it's the US's fault that their people are starving. Let them starve.
Meanwhile; Book Sales have reached a record level in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan. They just want to know what to expect from Obama* after he told the terrorists what America's plans are.
it was so polite for Obama* to keep the enemy advised of our plans.
Maybe we should start calling them "Muppet's"......... These creatures are the lowest form of human on the planet and they think civilized humans should treat them with respect..... dream on dirt bags.
Why doesn't Barrack Hussein just use the intelligence that Bush left him that found Osama, fly a Blackhawk helicopter in himself like he claims he did during the raid on Osama's compound and get Sgt. Bergdahl?
Victory lap anyone?
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans.
Iamnotyou post 1.22
Excuse me.... let me get this staight; President Obama has killed twice as many of these animals in 31/2 years [including Bin Laden] than Bush did in 8 and your saying he's on THEIR side. Have you been drinking heavily today or have you stopped taking your meds again?
to JimSpence 1.24
Oh great another thinly disguised delusional racist comment..... come on guys this nonsense is getting very, very old.
I sure wish I could put a "jimmy cap" on Jimspence. Just to protect us from his posts
"Capture them, put em' at Guantanamo and let em' eat cockmeat sandwiches! Hell with their rights!"
...Just as long as they don't eat pig cockmeat!
John in nw lala land....just keep drinking the kool-aid, that will hep this p.o.w.
Js Ind, you are so correct. Ive been sayin it for alongass time. Pakistan is the @!$%#ing devil! Don't get it wrong, they can all be the devil, yet pakistan being a. What do you call it, an ALY! Sorry no spell check, yet u get the point. I am worried about our country, im sure everyone else is to. Yet my problem is Obama. Besides the fact that our unemployment just hit the absolute @!$%# tank! That doesnt have anything to do with are republican Bros!
Once they are declared...legally ...a terrorist group they will be visited by a ...legal...drone anytime if the prisoner is harmed.
If Romney hears about it, he will do like Reagan did to Carter and tell them to hold until after election and will give them a better deal. Nixon did the same thing in Viet Nam and blew up the peace agreement LBJ had with China and N/S/Viet Nam.Ref LBJ tapes with Repub Sen Dirksoon.
Anybody that has seen JimSpence or MUW post on threads regarding politics can rest assured that they are complete idiots, incapable of nuanced thinking, and clearly over the age of being relevant in current conversations. Responding to them is like disobeying those signs in the park that tell people not to feed the birds that create a huge mess by $hitting all over the place. The sign for these two just reads: please don't respond to the republitards, they will just keep verbally $hitting all over the thread.
As for the Haqqani's: Osama learned not to $%ck with Obama, and you'll learn the same lesson. Better find a nice cave to crawl into because from now on its going to be raining hell fire every time you step outside!
Quoting the article:
So, in other words, .... "Don't call us terrorists or we might kill the American. Why? Because we are terrorists, and killing Americans is sort of 'our deal', it's what we do (we were going to kill the American anyway, but if the infidels insult us by calling us what we actually are, we might just get upset enough to kill the American sooner than we had planned. Terrorists have feelings too, dontcha know?"
Well, isn't that special? Sounds like we need to expedite sending the Haqqanis a few dozen copies of the official announcement printed on the noses of as many Hellfire missiles delivered by USAF and CIA drones. Because nothing beats personal service to show how much we really care.
Calling President Obama the name, "Barry", is an insult to other countries and an insult the United States of America!
I put up with GW (dumbass) Bush, the guy who wanted to rid Iraq of weapons of mass "slingshot capacity"... After all, somebody could put AN EYE OUT!!
Thanks for wasting all our money on a war that was unnecessary, foolish and a big slap in OUR OWN FACE!! Good job Bush, you ruined the world and the world's idea of happiness!! Now, everybody is screwed and all you did was form Haliburton and The Carlyse Group to make money on your oil investments in IRAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PIGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Republicans!!!!!!
Please President Obama, make the dumb-asses go away and work towards peace and harmony in the world as you've done all along. I salute President OBAMA!
Romney and his sheeple people...
Romney's famous speech rings so true when he said..."You can fool some of the people some of the time..........and these are the people I want to speak to!"
Obama/Biden 2012
@RobertinOregon,
SIR..............That was MONEY :) I nearly died choking on my sandwich and coffee @ 3:00am - didn't see that comment coming at all:)
So Haqqani's feelings are hurt by being called a terrorist. Aaaahhh too bad. The truth hurts sometimes don't it? Seems like these nutjobs were hurting U.S. personnel before they got their hands on Bergdahl.
Sadly, I will be surprised if young Bowie comes home alive or well. One cannot help but wonder if a full blown case of Stockholm Syndrome has not alreadyset in. If that last known picture of him is any indication, he is sporting what seems to be the style of beard favored by many Islamists in the region.
Hey Haqqanni, look up. See that little plane. Smile!
and like we used them as proxy agents against the Soviets with our stingers?
We have finally won, we hurt their feelings. Lowlife inbred, weak extremists.
Inbred? You mean the state of Alabama?
Yet we hear no crticism from Obama about this group which is aclosely allied with the Intelligence agencies of Pakistan, to whom we give a lot of money.
Pakistan has been getting hundreds of millions of dollars since the Afghanistan War started. It is time to stop the War and return all service members home. The longer we stay the more terrorist organizations will continue to pop up. It is so easy to recruit now because of all the drone strikes in Pakistan. They did not like the US before we started bombing them and they sure as hell don't like us now.
Isn't designation as a terrorist organization a form of criticism?
We need to get completely out of the Middle East and let the scum kill each other. If they attack us in any form, anywhere... treat them to a Hiroshima sandwich.
and just what has their new buddy mittens said?
Brainless Obama? Well that explains everything!
Did I miss something. Did the article not say that the U.S. has deignated this organization as a terrorist group? And who had to make the final decision on that matter? Hmmm, could it have been President Obama?
Lame comment Jeff. We don't here Obama criticize al Quada either...he just keeps killing them. By the way, do you really think after Obama punk'd the ISI with bin Laden we're with them?
You missed my point, which I will admit was subtle.
Your statement “Ah, well, I expected nothing else from a brainless Obama basher” struck me as funny because it was ambiguous as to where the “brainless” adjective should be applied. If you interpret the statement to mean that the basher is brainless, as I’m sure you intended, then you run into another problem as that could be taken to mean that bashing Obama does not require a brain and is therefore a “no-brainer”.
A better wording might have been “I expected nothing less from those who thoughtlessly bash Obama”.
I did not vote for Obama in 2008 because I did not believe that he was qualified for the job (still don’t). Actually, I believe that anyone who wants to be POTUS should not have the job but that’s another story. In 2012 we have been presented with a choice between the devil we know and the devil we don’t know.
Cowards. Using a human shield to protect themselves while carrying out their atrocious acts.
Brilliant, really Brilliant........ Now they are heroes and mentors around the world
US wait so long , NOT to make their budddy- Pakistan unhappy.
We have mountains of old iron bombs that need to be disposed of............BOMB THEM !!!
prayers for the soldier
I don't know, your holding an american soldier, you have assasinated members of the current Government and you have murdered several villiges just because they accepted US assistance. Seems like the right title to me!
There comes a time when the phrase "Kill em all! Let God sort em out!" becomes appropriate.
my heart goes out to this young man and his family, whatever the outcome, drones should be used excessively. Harboring terrorist extremist should not be tolerated, and should be answered swiftly and harshly. Less boots on the ground , more bombs from the air, and then charge them for damages, labor and materials used.
The United States should be doing whatever it takes to get one of our own back. GET OUT OF THERE this is pointless. Wasn't bush after Sadam & Osama? we got them right. There will always be people like them. Just LEAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Focus on the United States and our economy.
Plus c'mon we all know 911 was a US inside job. Unless your idiots and dont want to look at the facts :)
@Annonymous.... The only one who should LEAVEEEEEEE is you. You should leave the United States of America. What a shameful and disgraceful statement to make. You think we should leave the terrorists be so they can attack us around the world. You believe that what happens in another country has no effect on the U.S. That as long as we bother no one, then no one will bother us.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last."
— Winston Churchill
They are terrorist plain and simple. That would be the proper designation.
Declare pakistan a terrorist network.
as I have been saying on here for a long time OBAMA does not give a @!$%# about the men and woman in the military this is just more proof
floyd, I served for a decade active duty army. did you serve at all? if you had you would know that national security and strength dictate that we do not negotiate with terrorist even at the cost of a soldiers life. were I captured i would not expect our nation to crumble and give back leaders of Al Quieda for my life. you would be a coward and expect your freedom even if it meant it could lead to thousands of other american lives.
you could care less about the military. when is the last time you donaed to a cause that supports vets or soldiers and their families. when is the last time you gave of your time to volunteer. did you serve? another honey boo boo bosyphillus teabilly handfishing obama hater spouting pure ignorance of how Obama should best deal with terrorist from abroad when the terrorist Obama really needs to capture live right here in the US........... you are one of them.
I am from the Vietnam WAR era. I lost a cousin and a couple of friends there. I thank you for your service Kevin and yes I salute you! Any man or woman who enlists to fight FOR AMERICA is a hero. Plain and simple.
Floyd...go back to your John Wayne War movie. That would seem to be the extent of your military knowledge. You clearly know nothing about the military, nothing about veterans, nothing about what the past or present president has or hasn't not done for them. But as Kevin mentioned, you don't negotiate with terrorists, at least not openly or directly.
We have known for quite some time that Pakistan is not an ally. They are and have been supporting terrorism.
Unfortunately the US can't just drop out of sight. Again we are stuck in an unpopular war and have not been able to make it over the hill just yet.
If we leave Afghanistan too soon it will have been all for nothing.
It's a tough decision for someone, but I would think that by the second week of October something big will happen.
It's unfortunate our Politicians use and abuse our citizens for politics.
Welcome to the world of modern world diplomacy...it ain't pretty and it ain't black and white.
Just yet? What exactly do you anticipate we'll accomplish in Afghanistan? Create a Jeffersonian Democracy? Convert them to Evangelical Christianity? Have them call us their best friend for life and post on our facebook page? No one...I say again, no one has ever successfully occupied Afghanistan. It's a logistical 9th century nightmare with no real centralized government. And if you believe Karzai will remain President for 15 minutes after we pull out, without kissing up to the Taliban...you're crazier than Donald Rumsfeld.
That's what the right wing was saying about Vietnam in 1970. We stayed there another 5 years at a rather large cost. A soldier does not die in vane if he/she dies honorably in the service of our Nation. Getting more and more soldiers killed does not justify the deaths of the soldiers that died before them. Trust me, I'm a retired medic and we certainly didn't look at it that way.
Your crystal balls better than mine.
Welcome to reality.
American soldiers are the terrorist, they are the ones that started going there in the first place. American soldiers did not accomplish anything except kill people and make a mess. Stay out of peoples countries no one wants you there starting trouble
We have had forces in Pakistan for over 60 years as advisors through the Military Assistance Advisory Groups and since that time American Servicemen have been getting killed there. It is past time to get out
Just another group the CIA used , abused and is now tring to despose of
They used to be called the Northern alliance , which helped us battle the taliban, but after watching innocents being killed in off the cuff drone strikes they don't want to play our games anymore
seemssoobvious that you don't know what your talking about! Mullah Omar is their leader now, the spiritual leader of the Taliban and was the defacto leader of Afghanistan when we attacked them. There is no way that the Haqqani ever fought against him. "Watching innocents being killed" would have no affect on these people, they are the epitome of killers of innocent people. You are either clueless or a member of the Taliban. My guess is clueless.
Yes of course the Pakistanis are not supporting the Haqqanis, and yes of course they never knew OBL lived for years right next door to the Pakistani equivalent of West Point....... Yeah right........
You can bet the Pakistani ISI knows where Haqqani is hiding, but they'll never admit it.
Probably because Haqqani is in the office 2 doors down.
We have abandoned him..What a shame..My personal thoughts are we should level the place...Imagine how his family feels how he feels...No different than vietnam Just the thought of it makes me sick...
Of course he is abandoned, look who is the commander in chief!
Stew, you are vile. Where is your hatred for us being in untenable wars?If you really cared, you'd have been against us going there to begin with. We are learning we can accomplish our missions with a smaller footprint. Too many people love the military from there laptops but not with their deeds, efforts and tax dollars.
Greg...Stew...you're both idiots.
Greg, imagine how his family would feel if one of our JDAMs greased him all over Northern Pakistan. Ya, I'm sure that would make them feel better. Do you think if the President is working for his release or rescue he'd be doing it publicly? That would give RWNJs such as yourself way too much ammunition.
Stew...damn man.
What all of you are forgetting is the United States has not and will not make deals with terrorists! It has nothing to do with Obama, Stew, you foolish dweeb, this is POLICY and has been in place for decades.. I'm sure, if it is at all possible, a rescue attempt would be put in place but that depends on logistics and many other factors! To do what you want, just go barging in and try to snatch Bergdahl, would certainly result in his death and, perhaps, more US soldiers.. You should think before spewing out garbage.. Trying to blame one man for what happened to him is ludicrous.. Just like you!
There is only one group that cares about veterans, that is veterans themselves. The rest of the Americans including politicians just rattle bull@!$%# period.
You are very wrong!
....here's the deal.....release this soldier in 48 hours unharmed or we will begin carpet bombing every known Haqqani location in Afghanistan and not stop until he is released.....and then follow through......
Nice macho call. If we carpet bomb every known Haqqani location, they might have to send him home in a sponge. Do you think carpet bombing is surgery...damn man.
If the US carpet bombs, they kill their own troops guarding the poppy fields.
We're just calling them what they are.
"We resent being called kidnappers, it may make the life of our hostage worse."
What?! How can we have a captured soldier when Our savior Obama Bin Laden got us out of Afghanistan? Oh wait, that is just what those losers who worship and the alter of Obama say, the real facts are, we are at war even though Adolf Bin Laden Obama promised to get the USA out, he promised lot's of other things too, but they were all Obama lies as usual. 2000 USA soldiers dead in Afghanistan as of August 2012 and counting...
Would you rather the new ( and self proclaimed ) messiah ;massa' romney roll over for them?
Seriously this IS a CHOSEN War started by the Reflubicans, which one would you rather we sacrifice first?
Obama ha ha ha
As I said it doesn't matter they are all bought and payed for period, I have no rather, Frances-283318.