Tens of thousands of fish die in Lake Erie; lack of oxygen cited

Ontario Ministry of Environment

These fish are among the tens of thousands found dead on 25 miles of Lake Erie beaches in Canada's Ontario Province.

Tens of thousands of dead fish that washed up on Lake Erie beaches in Ontario, Canada -- and had locals wondering if something or someone had poisoned the water -- were likely killed by a lack of oxygen caused when lake sediment was stirred up, the province reported Friday.

Water samples "do not show evidence of a manure spill or anything unusual in terms of contaminants," Ministry of Environment spokeswoman Kate Jordan told NBC News.

Jordan said it wasn't known if the die-off was unprecedented, but that "it was a significant number -- tens of thousands."


The fish were found along 25 miles of beach, with locals first coming across them on Monday.

But three days earlier, residents had complained of a manure-like smell from the water, the Chatham Daily News reported.

"It was rank, so profoundly rank, that it was difficult to stay down there and the next morning we woke up to the smell," Neville Knowles said of his family's weekend trip to Rondeau Provincial Park.

Another park visitor, Frank van den Boorn, said he and his family were at the beach when he noticed the darkened water and smelled something wrong.

"I said to the kids 'We've got to get out of here, there is something wrong with the water'," Van den Boorn recalled. "I scooped up a handful of water and ... you could still smell the body stench on it."

"I just couldn't believe people were letting their kids swim in it," he added.

Jordan said the smell and darkened water were consistent with the natural phenomenon known as "lake inversion" -- where a change in wind can kick up waves that stir up sediment and reduce the oxygen levels for fish.

The wind did change directions last week, she noted, and a local water temperature gauge showed colder water, suggesting it had been churned up from the depths.

The province is also testing some of the dead fish and those results should provide conclusive evidence, Jordan said. The results should be ready next week.

The dead fish included catfish, carp and perch.

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The Welfare food rush is on!

  • 5 votes
#1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

In Canada? Reading comprehension, it's a b!tch.

  • 18 votes
#1.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

Moron.... PERIOD....

  • 12 votes
#1.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:38 PM EDT

I quess we know where the DNC dumped all their manure at now.

  • 23 votes
#1.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:59 PM EDT

jerry-889595, WOW, Seriously? You were dropped on your head repeatedly as a child, it's that obvious.

  • 19 votes
#1.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:06 PM EDT

Oh no, it must be the bp oil spill, or global warming - nah has to be bush's fault!

  • 9 votes
#1.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:15 PM EDT

When I read the headline of this article I thought...oh boy, what have the Republicans done this time?

  • 7 votes
#1.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:10 PM EDT

Oh darn!

Regardless of the cause, this just means Barrack Hussein has another excuse for his never-ending failed policies.

I'm sure the limp-wristed Libbies will find a way to blame this on the Republicans. Even though it is in Canada.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans

  • 10 votes
#1.7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:12 PM EDT

Ah, your old man's limp-wristed.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 to annoy conservatives

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

I believe it is a sign of under-water earthquake, and then a sunami. Remember the fish and the birds found dead in California before the earthquake hit Japan? It is also known for the water to smell like sulfur before a major under-water earthquake.

    #1.9 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:25 PM EDT

    The first 8 million times you Right and Left whiners cried, it was funny, now you are just attention whores.

    • 7 votes
    #1.10 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:29 PM EDT

    Jerry's comments are laughable and absurd to dah max. I think he needs to wear a hat more often in that AZ Sun! AZ home of Gila Monsters, Sidewinders (aka McCain), Snowbirds, and a Nazi Sheriff who makes prisoners sleep outside in tents for smoking MJ!

    • 5 votes
    #1.11 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:32 PM EDT

    Just Nature getting rid of the problematic Carp, now whats next on the list of creatures to get rid of?

    don't worry you can't eat them anyways there all contaminated.

    Don't blame the wind change on me my fan was facing the other direction.

    maybe it was all the lemmings following one leader forward, off the cliff and into the lake that turned the water that killed the fish, now they can rebuild the lake from the bottom up.

      #1.12 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:39 PM EDT

      "Just Nature getting rid of the problematic Carp,"

      Thanks , no worries , back to the American dream zzzzzzzzzzzz

      • 2 votes
      #1.13 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 1:43 AM EDT

      Those fish in the picture look like Smallmouth Bass almost, THAT would be a shame.. Carp and Catfish....who the hell cares.

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 2 votes
      #1.14 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 2:24 AM EDT

      JimSpence

      Oh darn!

      Regardless of the cause, this just means Barrack Hussein has another excuse for his never-ending failed policies.

      I'm sure the limp-wristed Libbies will find a way to blame this on the Republicans. Even though it is in Canada.

      I was wondering how long it would take some assclown to bring Obama into this. "Barrack Hussein"? Really?? Do us all a favor please. Just shut the f*ck up. You added absolutely NOTHING to the article except to show us that 5 year olds like yourself have computer access.

      • 3 votes
      #1.15 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 8:24 AM EDT

      Ha Ha Jerry:

      It was first noticed on Monday, so it must have been week old RNC manure. Full of rich food and spat out middle class, I would imagine. Seriously, it's amazing the angles people take to turn a story to politics.

      • 1 vote
      #1.16 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

      keye, just read the article. It explains the reason for it which is not an unusual, altrough rare, occurrance.

        #1.17 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:16 PM EDT
        Reply

        Keep polluting humans are dumber than toads, to bad we are destroying their world

        • 22 votes
        Reply#2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 6:48 PM EDT

        Yes because humans caused the wind to change, which caused the fish to die.

        • 11 votes
        #2.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:50 PM EDT

        Well some of us are and you pretty much top it lol

        • 4 votes
        #2.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:09 PM EDT

        John Doe...too many people using fans caused the wind to change direction which was an effect of global warming...They needed the fans to stay cool. So yes it is humans fault.

        • 3 votes
        #2.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

        Actually those are what are called sheepsheads on our north shore which is a trash fish and not worth eating.

        • 6 votes
        #2.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:47 PM EDT

        Good grief. Turnover happens in lots of bodies of water. Humans don't cause it. The change of seasons does. Every year. Not global warming, not pollution, not Bush or Obama.

        Every fisherman who frequents ponds and lakes knows that when the lake turns over, it stinks, the water gets filthy, and the fish get sick. Ho hum.

        • 9 votes
        #2.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:16 PM EDT

        Carp sucks the lake is better of without the damn things, they don't belong there anyways. they should net them all out and sell them to the Chinese they will eat anything, especially if you call it a delicacy. but then to them everything is a delicacy.

        • 4 votes
        #2.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 11:47 PM EDT

        I agree with breadex that the fish in the picture sure do look like sheepsheads to me as well. They are very well known as being susceptible to kill offs in low oxygen situations. If other fish died as well, they don't appear to be in this section of the kill off.

        • 2 votes
        #2.7 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 12:08 AM EDT

        Aww don't try to use facts here guys. You'll confuse the assclowns who want to vomit out some form of retarded political rhetoric. There could be heavy sunspot activity one week and some retard will find a way to make it about Bush or Obama in some pathetic attempt to seem witty and clever. Lately I find myself coming to Newsvine for the entertainment value, not for social discourse. Some people try so hard that all you can do is sit back and laugh at them.

        • 3 votes
        #2.8 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

        Dang 'ol Canadians! It's their fault!... Polluting everything... Obama, Romney, gobal warming all Canadian issues!

          #2.9 - Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:24 AM EDT
          Reply

          mitt release your tax returns.

          wait, what?!

          • 19 votes
          Reply#3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 6:53 PM EDT

          Really? This is why I will not vote for either party.

          • 7 votes
          #3.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

          And this is political because??? Where do you people come from???

          • 6 votes
          #3.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:44 PM EDT

          Thank you, Todd.

            #3.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:44 PM EDT

            sorry 'kelly' even "mitt's" tax returns can't compete with epic fail Obama...good try though.

            • 16 votes
            #3.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:01 PM EDT

            That comment is worthy of a page about Dead Fish. Romney did release all that the law requires so get over it. I bet you it is the Harvard (law school)Cheater Scandle that goes back to 1990 and before that is the reason Obama* refuses to release his transcripts and disclose the real reason that he was disbarred. Jimmy Carter is too nice of a man to sue Obama* for plagerizing his speech.

            When the muck on the bottom is stirred up, it can smell like decaying plants and other decaying organic material like fish. I hope that this also killed off Billions of Zebra Mussles, Gobies, and other invasive species too. So far it is Bottom Feeders that are washing up and Walleyes do follow the baitfish into whatever depth they are at. Smelt and alewives are mostly mid depth feeders.

            I would definately keep the kids out of the water.

            • 5 votes
            #3.5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:03 PM EDT

            How are Mitt Romney's tax returns going to bring the fish back to life?

            • 8 votes
            #3.6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:04 PM EDT

            Iamnotyou. Hello sir. Neither Barrack nor Michelle are disbarred. Thank you for listening.

            • 5 votes
            #3.7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:47 PM EDT

            Republirats love to make up S**T as they go! That's becuz their iconic heroes like Hannity, O'Really, Limburger, and that other imbecile do that all of the time on Faux News. Gullible, ignorant, stupid, lazy, fat, overfed cows like Gov. Christie and Limbaugh set the new low standard for pandering and changing the facts like a bunch of cheaters who change the rules in Monopoly when they lose! Spoiled rotten losers who are sore cause OBAMA has more intelligence in his little finger than all of those booze hounds put together.

            • 5 votes
            #3.8 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:39 PM EDT

            Here is a thought most people avoid the political places because of the crap being spewed by both sides and like me find some other place to drop a comment or two. Now its the same old song that started way back when Obam and mcCain got nominated and has not stopped since. moderators of these forums should kick clowns offof here who do not comment on the story and instead think that by their stupid comments they are somehow going to change an intellegent persons mind on who to vote for and the only person who would be stupid enough to do that is stupider than they are.

            • 1 vote
            #3.9 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:53 PM EDT

            Jeez, Doc. Hate much? Chill out. The article is about dead fish, not Obama's intelligence...although I can see how you might confuse the two.

            • 5 votes
            #3.10 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:58 PM EDT

            Somebody bring back Tina Fey and her Sarah Palin skits. At least that was entertaining....

            • 5 votes
            #3.11 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 1:16 AM EDT

            Romney should release his tax returns only when your false messiah, The Idiot Obama releases his college transcripts, and not one second sooner. Which will never happen because it would expose the truth about the Idiot Obama - that he is nothing more than an inept, incompetent liar and a world-class fraud.

            • 1 vote
            #3.12 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

            Look, I'm no fan of the President, but Obama won't release his transcripts and it has nothing to do with his grades. While I believe firmly that he was born in Hawaii (b/c I trust the Great State of Hawaii), when he was in his teens he lied and said he was a foreign student from Indonesia in order to gain easier entrance into his colleges after Occidental. His bio blurb on some of his writings in college even says he was born in Kenya. He lied about his birth then and he doesn't want to admit his fraud now (the fraud being that he was born in the US and lied and said he was born internationally). And he hasnt been disbarred, Michelle and Barack both stopped paying fees and getting continuing ed credits so they let their licenses lapse. They could go back to the legal profession again if they put in some time to get their license renewed. If you're going to rail against the man there are plenty of legitimate reasons and policy decisions made while he was President to do so, don't go looking for rumors and such.

              #3.13 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:28 PM EDT
              Reply

              Human brains need oxygen, not pollution.

              One of the known characteristics of this one pristine source of fresh water is its occasional low oxygen levels causes as the low volume lake heats up readily. Historically the main fish as lake trout, the trout would evacuate to the many slow flowing streams and rivers to summer over. The streams remained cool because they were kept flowing by drainage slowed by the heavily forested lands. This was the main reason that there (trout) fish in the lake period, when the settlers cleared these massive forests, the rivers and streams with reduced flow and heated killing the lake trout. It has been one thing after another, were the actions of man conflicted with the delegate balance of nature. I doubt whether there is another body of fresh water that has had so many transitions forced on it, and has had so very little natural protection. It not the lake that is at fault!

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Erie#Eutrophication_and_the_infamous_dead_zone

              Eutrophication and the infamous dead zone

              The green scum shown in this image taken in October 2011 is the worst algae bloom Lake Erie has experienced in decades.
              An ongoing concern is that "nutrient overloading from fertilizers, human and animal waste", known as eutrophication, in which additional nitrogen and phosphorus enter the lake, will cause plant life to "run wild and multiply like crazy". Since there are fewer wetlands, which are like "Nature's kidneys" by filtering nutrients, as well as greater "channelization of waterways", nutrients in water can cause algal blooms to sprout as well as "low-oxygen dead zones" in a complex interaction of natural forces.

              There is a dead zone within the middle of the lake although its exact location varies. Scientists from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration have been studying the lake's blue-green algae blooms, and trying to find ways to predict when they are spreading or where they might hit landfall; typically the blooms arrive late each summer. One account suggests that the seasonal algae blooms in Lake Erie were possibly caused by "runoff from cities, fertilizers, zebra mussels, and livestock near water." A second report focuses on the zebra mussels as being the cause of "big oxygen-poor dead zones" since they filter so much sediment that they have resulted in the growth of algae. One report suggests the oxygen-poor zone began about 1993 in the lake's central basin and becomes more pronounced during summer months, but it is somewhat of a mystery why this happens. Some scientists speculate that the dead zone is a naturally occurring phenomenon. Another report cited Ohio's Maumee River as the main source of polluted runoff of phosphorus from industries, municipalities, tributaries and agriculture, and in 2008, satellite images showed the algal bloom heading towards Pelee Island, and possibly heading to Lake Erie's central basin. There have been two-year $2 million studies trying to understand the "growing zone" which was described as a "10-foot-thick layer of cold water at the bottom", 55 feet (17 m) in one area, which stretches "100 miles across the lake's center". It kills fish and microscopic creatures of the lake's food chain and fouls the water, and may cause further problems in later years for sport and commercial fishing.

              • 20 votes
              Reply#4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 7:23 PM EDT

              Interesting.

              • 4 votes
              #4.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

              But yet not.

              • 3 votes
              #4.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

              Lake Erie is not the only lake this is happening in either... It's also effecting smaller inland lakes... Last year in Ohio Lake Milton, a recreational lake, was "closed" because of the algae blooms and people were advised to stay out of the lake...

              • 4 votes
              #4.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:52 PM EDT

              Hey good news. I live in Toledo which is ironically on the western side of Lake Erie and I live within two miles of the Maumee River. I should probably go dump my weekly waste in it soon, have to keep up the pollution. It is a shame what we have done to the Maumee River and Lake Erie.

              • 2 votes
              #4.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:25 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarLee Seligavia Facebook

              I have a serious question, so please refrain from guessing.

              Why were other species of fishes not killed? It seems like the scavenger types would be the hardiest.

              • 2 votes
              #4.5 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 12:24 AM EDT

              @Lee - Fish not mentioned but in Lake Erie; Walleye, Bass, Bluegill, Sunfish, Sturgeon

                #4.6 - Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:08 PM EDT
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                The lack of oxygen in our oceans is the adverse side effects of the global warming, such as ice melting which may cause desalting process that may deoxygenate water in which sea animals need oxygen.

                Ice melting may also creat new current.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#5 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

                Please!!!!

                • 7 votes
                #5.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

                Lake Erie isn't an ocean, but good try.

                • 10 votes
                #5.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

                The great lakes are fresh water lakes...

                And a long way from the ocean depending on which lake you are at....

                The oceans have plenty of spots that are low on oxygen. They are not anywhere near where ice would be either. The equatorial part of the oceans are very low in oxygen, not the areas where glaciers melt. Glacial runoff areas have a high oxygen and mineral content, and that's why the water is green.

                Time to get a clue...

                • 3 votes
                #5.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

                And, Lake Erie is the smallest and most shallow, about 62 feet deep, than the other Great Lakes. This kind of thing isn't too far out of the ordinary.

                • 6 votes
                #5.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:53 PM EDT
                Reply

                REMEMBER the Republican party believes in Akin science not real science-creation not evolution- they laugh- we patriotic Americans have to work with Canada as well as the rest of the world on global erosionand warming

                • 6 votes
                Reply#6 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 7:52 PM EDT

                hey dildo; it was a natural occurance.... an inconvenient truth if you will~!

                • 7 votes
                #6.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

                What?

                  #6.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                  Try to tell china to cut down on their toxic emissions. They will laugh at you..in chinese. India, south america and other areas are causing more pollution than the us is.

                  • 3 votes
                  #6.3 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:15 PM EDT

                  Actually, only China produces more pollution than the US. They passed us in 2007.

                  • 2 votes
                  #6.4 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:43 PM EDT

                  i dont care about global warming,i think liberals should have been aborted,think obame and his puppit biden are idiots and i truely think what ever happens to america they deserve for being dumb and electing obame and that a— — Mhole biden and allowing garbage liberals get away with what they get away with,so screw global warming,screw liberals and obame and loud mouth biden could match george bush on a bad day for george bush other wise i have no respect for liberals they are garbage and obame should be impeached

                  • 2 votes
                  #6.5 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 2:46 AM EDT

                  Someone at the EPA needs to held accountable. What are they doing over there? They were put into power to prevent this from happening.\

                  Little fishees are dead because someone at the EPA dropped the ball.

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.6 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 12:31 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Lake inversion, happens every year. Some years we can smell the stink from here which is 45 miles inland.

                  • 8 votes
                  Reply#7 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:04 PM EDT

                  Makes me wonder why the three fish listed in the article died off due to low oxygen levels. These fish are found on the bottom of lakes usually where there is less oxygen.

                  I wondering if the Canadian and U.S Fish and Wild Life didn't have something to do with it. Maybe the recent finding of "Asian Carp" in the area!

                  • 2 votes
                  #7.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:57 PM EDT

                  I think it had to do with the fact that the wind current changed. It kicked up alot of sediment from the bottom making what little oxygen was there gone.

                  • 1 vote
                  #7.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:28 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  someone is up to no good....

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#8 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:28 PM EDT

                  I hope an entrapeneur scooped the fish up, and made fertilizer out of them at least!

                  • 8 votes
                  Reply#9 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:30 PM EDT

                  Fish are not used to sediment or waves in fact they just learned to swim about 500 years ago and then breath underwater about 300 years ago.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#10 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

                  Ur kidding? Fish learned to swimm 500 years ago? So for millions of years, they just flopped around on the bottom of lakes and oceans? Really? Or are you a really, really young earth creationist, claiming the earth is only 500 years old? I personally can only verify the earth is about 35 years old, before then, I can't remember a thing.

                  • 5 votes
                  #10.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 9:50 PM EDT

                  Abraham was obviously trolling, and you fell for it.

                  • 4 votes
                  #10.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:48 PM EDT

                  hubba, yeah, my response was a bit jokey too. Sorry u missed the humor.

                    #10.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:19 AM EDT

                    Actuallly "some" fish learned to swim during that period, i.e., those born during that period. You must be a politically spin-master.

                      #10.4 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:43 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      We really need to pay attention to this.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#11 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                      Why? It happens every year. Just no "greenies" to bring it to our attention. Ahhhhhhhh the electronic age.

                      • 4 votes
                      #11.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:45 PM EDT

                      It wouldn't be a news story if that many fish died every year.

                      • 2 votes
                      #11.2 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 10:42 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      The government wants to control the world food supply. Since the government can not control the fish in the wild the government will kill off the wild population of food such as fish.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#12 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                      Another moron... Read, and comprehend... It's nature.... @!$%# happens.. Man had nothing to do with this...

                      • 6 votes
                      #12.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

                      um Jeffrey .... your tin foil hat is crooked .... needs to be straightened

                      • 5 votes
                      #12.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:43 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      There's something "FISHY" going on here.... Someone should've collected a sample? duh....

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#13 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

                      They did. Analysis pending.

                      • 3 votes
                      #13.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 10:44 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Vote for Romney and you will see 1000 times this stuff.

                      Romney/Ryan Killing the Planet for Profit...One lake at a time.

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#14 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:36 PM EDT

                      Really a moron... Politics has nothing to do with this... And I'm not a Republican...

                      • 14 votes
                      #14.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:42 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Those fish will be casting votes for bozo--

                      Cheatin' dems!

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#15 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:36 PM EDT

                      Money, so your saying Obama is responsible for the daed fish?

                      • 2 votes
                      #15.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:45 PM EDT

                      Another moron... I can do this all night...

                      • 6 votes
                      #15.2 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:45 PM EDT

                      I like you James :P Keep it up

                      • 2 votes
                      #15.3 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 12:15 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      .... like Pat Paulson once said... yeah, they have a little odor to them , but, it will cook out of em ...... community fish fry tonight folks !

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#16 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

                      I lived in Cranesville, PA years ago.This happened about once a year then.The other thing that I remember is Cleveland,Ohio's sewage plant breaking down and we would find human waste floating in the lake,the fish did not like that,either.Erie is a shallow lake as the article stated,doesn't take much to stir it up,one can smell the bottom mud when that happens,then come the dead fish,then the birds feeding off the fish.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#17 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:44 PM EDT

                      Shhhhhhh! The greenies don't want to know that it is a natural and recurring event.

                      • 4 votes
                      #17.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:48 PM EDT

                      Well. I guess it is about time for another bird-kill-off headline. Wait for it....wait for it.

                        #17.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:59 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        HA!..Yea "sediment"...This kind of crap used to happen where I grew up with the Rhode Island mob dumping barrels of chemicals in the bay. Whenever someone would complain of the smell or see hundreds of dead horseshoe crabs belly up on the beach the guy running the local EPA would say it was water temperature or sediment. It wasn't until everyone could see this rainbow oil slick from a helicopter that we discovered this EPA manager was taking bribes from the mob in exchange for covering up miles of dumping they were doing from boats off shore to avoid having to pay legal dumping fees on land..

                        Sediment...That's a good one!

                        • 12 votes
                        Reply#18 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:45 PM EDT

                        Anyone else feel like there is a certain amount of ambiguity with this new story. Kinda like you don't need to know because we don't know?

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#19 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:45 PM EDT

                        Awwww! Poor little fishies! Thats alot of dead fish! What a waste! Its just horrible! But nature does her own thing!

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#20 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:45 PM EDT
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                        You environmental numbskulls who are spouting your pseudoscience do not understand Lake Erie.

                        It is the shallowest Great Lake and storms can generate 50 foot waves easily. All this wave action stirs up the lake bottom and puts lots of sediment into the water which clogs the gills of the fish.

                        It must have been a slow news day at MSLSD to put this article up on the webpage, because this kind of thing happens frequently. Lake sediment is a naturally occuring geological event and has little to do with power boats, lake freighters or people sh*tting in the lake while swimming or fishing or boating. It is a natural occurrence due to the shallowness of the lake and has nothing to do with pollutants or "Global Warming".

                        Last, George Bush did not cause Lake Erie to be shallow. The Republicans did not cause it either, although I am willing to bet that Joe Biden is hard at work looking for a way to blame Paul Ryan for this event.

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#21 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:47 PM EDT

                        That many fish don't die every year.

                          #21.1 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 10:47 AM EDT
                          Reply

                          What is about anti-environment retards that think every disaster is a joke? I take it none of you give a @!$%# about this planet after you die. No children?

                          • 10 votes
                          Reply#22 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:48 PM EDT

                          Can bears eat them?

                            Reply#23 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:48 PM EDT

                            They suffocated from lack of oxygen more than likely no different than taking them out of the water. So if this is the case yes, a bear could eat them, they're not poison.

                            • 2 votes
                            #23.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:57 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            .... fish are like people,,,, the smart ones moved on ..... the dumb ones ? belly up on the beach....... the fish that moved on.... well, they are Democrat fish ..... the dead dumb ones ? You guessed it.... tea tard fish

                            • 4 votes
                            Reply#24 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

                            The Tea Party Republican fish died from exhaustion after supporting all of the Democrate fish for years. The Democrate fish will be belly up in a few days having nobody left to support them.

                            • 4 votes
                            #24.1 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 2:33 AM EDT

                            Your comment, Miss Cricket, seems to indicate that you believe Democrats are supported by Republicans ...well, "I'll be you $10,000" (does that sound familiar) that we as Americans pay far more in corporate welfare than is paid to all Americans on welfare and many being supported are white conservatives. Our business centers in the North East and the West Coast (democratic states) essentially "carry" many of the red Republican states.

                            If we had had a Tea Party when the constitution was being drawn up we still would not have a constitution because you tea baggers don't compromise. You are school yard bullies in Washington. The tea party is responsible for our credit rating being lowered and are dragging our country down because you are causing gridlock in the government which destabilizes our finances.

                            • 2 votes
                            #24.2 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:46 PM EDT
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                            I wouldn't eat any fish from Lake Erie anytime soon. I'll just keep eating the ones sold at the supermarkets. You know the ones contaminated with Mercury.

                            • 8 votes
                            Reply#25 - Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:50 PM EDT
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