So What.

Buh Byeee and I guess he now knows the 72 virgin thing was nothing but 72 Raisans in a box.

Yeah Lee, they did nothing except kill Americans directly or indirectly. They do need justice with a stuff rope.

Another one bites the dust, Yeehaa!!!!

there is no troops over there Obama brought them all home

I what he thought when he discovered that the 72 virgins were sheep? BAAAAAAA.......

No one ever said that the "virgins" were even female.................what if they are a bunch of hairy guys..................would love to see the terrorist faces when they find that out.

"He had "fairly recently" thrown the "cocktail" (urine) at a prison guard"......

........A Muslim imam was summoned in order to give the man Islamic rites.

I say he doesn't get anything other than what he had coming to him...10 folds.

What they don't tell you is they slipped him a Ham Sandwhich.

Real American:

Since obama took office.

Real Americans First Says

You mean the Budget OBAMA and REID never passed in the last three years?

Hey wait a minute! In bin laden's case, didn't obama say that a muslim had to buried within 24 hours, after death?

It's ok to lie to me but let's stick with the same lie.

Why to close GITMO , we need a place away from us where terrorist can't scape. Obama wanted to close GITMO but most Democrats say " not in my backyard". Terrorist should go to trial under Military Law in GITMO , not in our Civil Courts. Herick Holder and his partners provide hundred of hour giving legal assistance to terrorist before be nominated as the head of the DOJ , with Obama his plan was send terrorist to Civil Courts but it failed.

Vote for Obama you will have terrorist in our civil courts , mocking our Judicial system and getting free.

Who cares?

Imagine the look on that filthy Muslim animal's face when he finds out the 72 virgins are all old nuns!

ONE DOWN..?..?..?...TO GO.

The OVERWHELMING majority of Gitmo detainees are completely innocent of any crime or any conspiracy to commit crime.

Yes, they are inocents and 9/11 never exist.

I just read a news story about how Mexican drug cartels are sending 100's of tons of cocaine to the US with small submarines they built. You would think that because it's so easy to enter the US by foot through the Mexican border and so easy to deliver men and material with these subs, the US would have suffered a whole bunch of terror attacks since 9/11. But that's not the case.

So who, exatly, is the US holding and torturing at Guantanamo? They're probably people who saw a foreign soldier in their hometown and reacted a bit too strongly about it. Foreign soldiers who don't even know what they're looking for. These soldiers only know they're upset about some Osama Bin Something. These soldiers and the Congresspeople who sent them to war are so irrational they're killing and incarcerating anyone who doesn't like their presence in their country.

It's about time the US grows up and get real about the "enemy" they're fighting.

I am sure that some liberal rag will try to tie either Romney or Bush to the death!

The Founding Fathers that you reich-wingers spout such love for would be appalled at your lack of American values.

We didn't fight to create this country as a fascist state.

This country used to stand for something - and it's attitudes like yours that have tarnished it.

I'm ashamed to call myself your fellow countryman, but I'll fight til I die to restore it rather than leave it to you jackals.

IWonder:

It's ok to lie to me but let's stick with the same lie.

I've always felt the government's explanation as to why we weren't allowed to see bin Laden's body and why "it was thrown overboard into the water" never made sense.

What is your take on what really happened?

Emmanuel said:

The OVERWHELMING majority of Gitmo detainees are completely innocent of any crime or any conspiracy to commit crime. Some genius in the Bush administration thought it might be a good idea to offer a bounty ($10,000) for the reporting of terrorists. Guess what happened? People called and reported any fool they hated (and got the money). Those people were locked up immediately, no trial, no lawyer. They can claim until their faces are blue that they don't know anything about anything, but who's gonna believe them? They are terrorist right?

Some trials have been held. Some of them have been found innocent of any charges. Many of these 'terrorists' are political dissidents in their own country, whose only crime was to not believe whatever the current ruler-in-power believed. When the US asked the world at large to give them terrorists who might have been connected with 9/11, they got a lot of people whose government simply didn't want anymore.

Problem is that no one wants them here. Even if they are innocent, the assumption is that if you were in Guantanamo, then you're a terrorist. So even if they are innocent of any crime or conspiracy to commit a crime against America and its citizens, their country refuses to accept them back, and we can't let them stay. We can't execute them, because they are innocent. And so, because of this stalemate, there's nowhere for them to go. And because no one can figure this out, they have no options except lifelong indefinite detention, with no possibility of parole, freedom, or ever seeing their families again.

The other obstacle to closing Guantanamo is that it is a military base. We have soldiers stationed there, and its strategically placed to keep an eye on Castro and Cuba. Even if you could close the prison, you're not going to close the base without a Congressional order.

Not to mention which, there may soon be more detainees. There's a bill called the Enemy Expatriation Act currently coming up through Congress that will give the government the ability to strip citizenship from any American, naturalized or natural-born, who is suspected of advocating or supporting terrorism, and once their citizenship is stripped they can be subject to indefinite detention at Guantanamo without charge or trial as an 'illegal terrorist' per the terms of the NDAA for FY2012.

And Homeland Security's definition of 'terrorist' includes alternate media, animal rights activists, black power groups, white power groups, and members of certain religious sects like the Christian Identity movement and Odinists (those who worship the Norse God Odin.) Also included are those who stockpile weapons, those who stockpile food (more than seven days worth of food) anti-technology advocates, lawful acts of civil disobedience, hacktivists, and secondary and tertiary targeting (you bank with a bank that is suspected of laundering money for terrorists.)

After watching the special on 9/11 again my thought is, if they find their whole fuggin nations dead, I'll dance in the street like they did when they saw the World Trade Centers collapse. Fk um all.

Bin Laden specifically said in his TV interview with John Miller, they make NO distinction between soldiers and citizens. He said we will kill them all. I take that as cart blanch to give it back to them in spades.

he deserves a quick burial at sea ...just like bin laden got...keep'n the faith...baby...or is it just the CIA backed terrorist that get the free burial...

Amanda:

The United States is moving continually forward into a Fascist form of government. The first step was the crony capitalism we are experiencing now, which has basically transferred much of the wealth into the hands of the government and the 1%.

Don't care, just one less that the American taxpayers have to feed, cloth and paid medical for.

@ Lee-1447916, post 1.3

Like many Americans I hope this dirt bag murderer finds God so he/she can explain to him how murder isn't something good or needed to reach heaven. These people that think they are doing Gods will by killing Christians or non muslims needs to stop.

Confussed:

Like many Americans I hope this dirt bag murderer...

So your words don't make you appear helplessly ignorant, please cite your source as to this man being a murderer.

The Founding Fathers that you reich-wingers spout such love for would be appalled at your lack of American values.

We didn't fight to create this country as a fascist state.

This country used to stand for something - and it's attitudes like yours that have tarnished it.

SO--The Founding Fathers", in all their divine wisdom, denied over 50% of citizens the vote. They approved of slavery and genocide against the indigenous people , etc.. Madison, in his own words said that the voice of the citizenry should be minimized, as they were too ignorant to participate. Only an elite few were fit to govern. He also believed that the average person was here to serve those of higher statute. They fathered children with the slaves they "owned." The Constitution is just a knock off from the writings of Voltaire combined with British Common Law.

The Founding Fathers were just as big of amoral pricks as we have in office now---and the exclusion from these ranks are Liberals. Give me someone like Bernie Sanders, Russ Feingold, or Elizabeth Warren over the leaches in either party.

If Romney gets elected, it's all over. Real Americans would never vote for Romney. Selfish people will.

GITMO Detainee Dies...

Good!

Gitmo prisoner dead? Boo hoo. Hope I can get some sleep tonight knowing that. He could at least had the decency to take a dozen or so with him.

Golly debi, I don't have a clue but it sure did stink, didn't it? Obviously, something about it was rotten.

You're correct sandtrich. The laws were written by the elite and powerful, for the elite and powerful, including the Constitution and the subsequent Bill of Rights.

Could you ever imagine a room full of powerful landowners, industrialists and intellectuals making laws that would benefit Mr. and Mrs. Jones of Podunk, Anystate who does nothing to elevate the interests of the politician?

For those who believe in the "Of the people, by the people and for the people" myth, dream on.

We are all responsible for the military's injustice and war crimes.

lol, ya right. what war crime? any body here see any wor crimes comitted by our troops? i personally have not, and think some of it could be false propaganda by the gov to keep certain people pizzed off to the hilt.

as far as this guy goes... i think all the no chance of winning cases have been pretty much sent home already.

NObama could have easily as making koolaid closed Gitmo. cant blame that on the republicans alone, when a democrat congress and senate could have easily passed voted it into making it happen as the prince that cant wanted.

he could have done a lot of good... instead he went show-boating for close to 3 yrs... now he says he has a plan... same plan as last time? just as stoopid imo. but its only the working people who are left with a job supporting those that do not. good people who should get help are left homeless. lazy fat azz skanks who can onlt breed get everything under the sun, as well drive a better car/truck than i have ever owned, and worked my azz off since i was 18, paying taxes. NObama will do anything to keep shafting the working man....

NaughtyMossy:

lol, ya right. what war crime? any body here see any wor crimes comitted by our troops?

Very easy. Just google "Wikileaks Apache helicopter gunning down civilians" video, unless of course, you don't really want to see and acknowledge our military's sins.

I knew this story would bring the traitors out.

Anyways, what they didn't tell this fool is that the virgins..., are goats.

it don't cost us no money to feed the terrorist...just add it to the federal deficit...it's all good just like obama's cornbread...now get a job and get your free government food stamps ...so the 1% don't have to feed your ass with a good pay'n job...get a fake green card and work hard the 1% just loves it......

unreal American,

I know you don't want to believe this but President Obama just spent 169 million dollars in up grades to Gitmo...that is right he did it and it was reported here on MSMBC the expense is the equivalent of $800,000.00 per detainee. My only thought was wouldn't the money have been better spent giving returning veterans some cash to survive the first few months of unemployment again courtesy of the Democrats and President Obama? Part of the upgrade included a new $750,000 soccer field, cable TV, air conditioning and Internet. They are now living better than the ground pounders that arrested them in the first place. Your views while somewhat high minded given the individuals who reside in Gitmo are very naive. These guys would behead you just because you claim to be American. These same individuals had involvement in 9/11/01 and you would give them a pass. They would give you death.

This is why you and you're kind can not be trusted with our nations policy or security issues.

Next

a terrorist is dead who cares? emanual and just what makes you think any of those animals deserve anything but a slow painful death preferrably by burning as our folks died on 9/11? We owe them the debt is paid when the last terrorist in the world dies in flames

Notsosure:

These same individuals had involvement in 9/11/01 and you would give them a pass.

Again, to save yourself from utter ignorance, please site your proof and source.

If you're able to claim the guilt of someone without a trial, which goes against the laws and heart of what America stands for, then who's the real traitor to this country? Hint: Just take a look in the mirror.

Amanda said

Not to mention which, there may soon be more detainees. There's a bill called the Enemy Expatriation Act currently coming up through Congress that will give the government the ability to strip citizenship from any American, naturalized or natural-born, who is suspected of advocating or supporting terrorism, and once their citizenship is stripped they can be subject to indefinite detention at Guantanamo without charge or trial as an 'illegal terrorist' per the terms of the NDAA for FY2012

The HR 3166 and its similar to the Senate S 1698 , both have only 3% chance to move foward , because it has too much opposition in both sides. It was President Barack Obama , no Bush or any other Republican to make it clear , to the liberals in this forum, who signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law despite public approval ratings as low as 2% (The NDAA gives the administration the right to indefinitely detain, without charges or trial, anyone it deems to be a terrorists threat.) But whether American citizens—who are guaranteed due process of law by their Bill of Rights—were included in the authority of the NDAA was not made absolutely clear.

Ternan:

a terrorist is dead who cares? emanual and just what makes you think any of those animals deserve anything but a slow painful death preferrably by burning as our folks died on 9/11? We owe them the debt is paid when the last terrorist in the world dies in flames

Again, for the umpteenth time, please site your source that proves all of those detained in GITMO are terrorists.

Probably the REAL reason was he was tortured illegally by MY COUNTRY. Who needs the Geneva Convention when we have the most nukes? Tell the good doctors to check for how much water was in his lungs from waterboarding.

Nothing makes me more happy than Jesus freaks that get happy when "Terrorists" are tortured and killed. Shows they don't know what the @!$%# is even in the Bible.

RealAmericansFirst

Everyone that reads your stupidity is ashamed of you. Get the hell out of my country if all you have to offer is liberal stupidity. America did not become the most powerful country in history by wearing panties like you. Leave we will not miss your worthless ass!

Debi,

You know so much yet determined not to take on the facts...President Obama not only did not close Gitmo but revamped it...wonder why? I wll bet you have heard about the intelligence that lead to Osama Bin Laden...many claim it originated at Gitmo with a particular prisoner...google it for yourself...it is not my job to do you're research for you. The story was even reported here on MSMBC back when Bin Laden was shot.

Next.

Obama could have signed an executive order closing gitmo if he wanted. hell he pretty much signs executive orders to pass things that congress won't.

Yet obama hasn't done this. Obama killed this inmate. This is clearly obamas fault. He broke another lie by not closing the base like promised.

Try to blame it on republicans all you want. but obama is commander in chief. he could close it if he wanted but wont do it.

obama should be prosecuted for war crimes by an international court.

These same individuals had involvement in 9/11/01 and you would give them a pass. They would give you death.

Again Notsosure, I will repeat myself; all I ask you to do is site your proof and source.

Debi,

Again I repeat myself google it for yourself or look at the MSNBC archives yourself. Since you seem to need further education on the subject of Gitmo I will give you a little cut and paste. Here you go.

In the Presidents defense he made a promise without the knowledge he gained in his first meeting with the Joint Chiefs. After that meeting his view of the world was highly modified in comparison to the political promises. If not how do you think Hillary Clinton extended our engagement in Afghanistan to 14 more years? The same thing happened to every President way back. Some Presidents had the temerity to go their own way and most of them did not. If you think it was any different with President Bush you are mistaken. I have met people who worked on the battle plan for Iraq when Clinton was still President. I have met people who worked logistics on the battle plans years before the first soldier moved a muscle. If you think you can move all the man power, machinery, and support services in a few days you are quite mistaken. It took months of build up and prep work and years to plan. I met someone who did the ground work on disease our troops would face in Vietnam years before the first troops arrived. The military has a plan and works the plan...at least 5 years in advance or more. I don't care who the next President is day one with the Joint Chiefs will take their breath away.

No I won't give sources...some are still active military and others...shall we say are professionals.

so, John Haddock, if that's your reasoning--what do we do to bush for invading Iraq with no cause? And whether the guy was a terrorist or some too-stupid-to-do-anything-but-screw-and-starve Afghani dirt eater, he threw urine in the face of one of OUR soldiers. He should have been shot in the face right then and there, along with all the other trained monkeys that no doubt cheered when he did it.

Hmmm. So out of that unsourced, unquoted misinformation (by the way, we weren't fully prepared to invade Iraq; thus, one of the reasons our tanks weren't EID proofed and had to be piece-mealed for protection), how does it justify your statement that: "These same individuals had involvement in 9/11/01 and you would give them a pass."?

Are we speaking the same language or are we even residing on the same planet?

Debi,

In any action people have to adapt to change. This is true in business and in life. The Humvee was the problem not the tanks. The Humvee was replaced by heavy armored trucks and even then IED's created problems for our military. No force in history has ever been totaly ready for what it faces in war...it has to learn and adapt or perish. Did the forces run our of gas, spare parts, cloths, food, drink, munitions or quarters...that is the main part of logistics...never leave your supplies behind or allow them to be cut off.

Here is one source for you to read and a quote.

"A new lead emerged when post-9/11 detainees gave investigators a glimpse into the al Qaeda chief's inner circle, the official said. During questioning, detainees repeatedly mentioned the nickname of a man they said was one of the few couriers bin Laden trusted." www.articles.cnn.com/2011-05-02/us/bin.laden.hunt_1_elusive-bin-al-qaeda-leader-senior-obama-administration?_s=PM:US

As usual I had to change the header to the address to www so it would post here.

As far as the rest I have no axe to grind discard it if you want. We probably don't live on the same planet Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus so the book says.

IXLR8 you mentioned 40 virgins?? are those of unknown sex since all suicide killer bomber are 99% virgin males, and some are sheeps killed. Wow for sure they have many rounds to finish. Those imams and clerics ought to increase the price to 72 virgins maybe more will volunteer for more rounds since muslims are allowed more than 1 wife and probably will share with each others.

Real americans first:

first PLEASE FNCK OFF

Second get the FNCK OUT if you are ashamed to call yourself a fellow countryman

Third GO DRINk THE COOl AIDE in some muslim country you FNCKING sympathizer

on the day that so many americans both born here and immigrated here were killed you choose to be a sympathizer

FNCK you

oskar said:

The HR 3166 and its similar to the Senate S 1698 , both have only 3% chance to move foward , because it has too much opposition in both sides.

HR347, or the Restricted Grounds Act, was quietly signed earlier this year making it a crime to enter or remain on restricted grounds (government) without permission from authority evn for the purposes of lawful civil disobedience. In other words, you can't have a sitdown protest or picket a government office anymore without permission, and if you do you can be imprisoned up to five years. When that was introduced that only had a 3% chance of moving forward because many people thought it was an infringement on our Constitutional right to peacefully assemble.

It was President Barack Obama , no Bush or any other Republican to make it clear , to the liberals in this forum, who signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law despite public approval ratings as low as 2% (The NDAA gives the administration the right to indefinitely detain, without charges or trial, anyone it deems to be a terrorists threat.)

The controversial portions of the NDAA for FY2012 was written by two members--one Democrat (Carl Levin) and one Republican (John McCain)--of the Homeland Security oversight committee. Homeland Security, for those who don't know, has been quietly gathering money and power over the last decade; it was founded in 2002 in the wake of 9/11 with an operating budget of $49 million, last year it was somewhere between $58-$98 billion. That's a huge jump in 10 years!

US Customs and Immigration Services, Customs and Border Protection, Federal Emergency Management Association, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Transportation Security Administration, the US Coast Guard, the National Communications Center, the National Cyber Security Center and the Office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties are now included under their umbrella. The Secret Service, who used to be a branch of the Treasury, was transferred to Homeland Security control too.

So knowing that, how willing is the President going to be to set himself against something that Homeland Security wants when they are the same ones tasked with protecting and defending his wife and children? How easy would it be for something to happen, especially given what's been publicized lately about the behavior of some Secret Service agents? And I'm sure we've all noticed the almost total media blackout on the topic--the only places where you can find articles and discussions of the thing are on Huffington Post and other alternate media sites--which, according to the list in post 1.32 above, is now on the watch list. Many people are still not aware of the NDAA for FY2012--and its ramifications for the people.

But whether American citizens—who are guaranteed due process of law by their Bill of Rights—were included in the authority of the NDAA was not made absolutely clear.

Actually, the Constitution says 'No person shall be denied life liberty or property without due process of law.' It doesn't make the distinction between citizen or noncitizen, illegal or undocumented. It simply says 'No person'.

In the version of the NDAA for FY2012 that was eventually signed Dec 31, 2011, it specifies mandatory detention without charge or trial for any non-US citizen suspected (not proven) of terrorism or supporting terrorism. For US citizens it said the indefinite detention would be 'discretionary', not 'mandatory' but it did not say who would be making that discretionary determination.

And the reason all this stuff is getting passed is because of money. For every person Homeland Security detains, whether it be child, illegal, undocumented, citizen, or non-citizen suspected terrorist, they ask Congress for $141 per person per night, roughly $51,465 per year. Let's use immigration detainees, since that's who the bulk of the money is for--detention of immigration detainees until decision/deportation (and even after someone has proven they are a citizen, Homeland Security still continues to hold them.)

A private, for-profit prison will hold that immigration detainee in their private prison for Homeland Security for between $40-$98 a night. That's $14,600 -$35,000 a year, and Homeland Security keeps the extra $15,000-$36,000 a year to add to their budget. The private prison system cuts corners with detainees and pours money into lobbyists, who wine and dine lawmakers and congressmembers to get them to vote favorably on a specific bill that will keep the supply of detainees--and thus the money--coming.

In the meantime Homeland Security takes their part of the money and pours it into projects like the development of scanning surveillance systems that can see through walls (Xaver 800 Through Wall Imaging System) portable DNA analyzers, and behavior-assessment computer programs like the one they are testing at Boston's airport right now that determines if someone needs to go through extra security--based on pulse rate, heartbeat, respiration, perspiration, shifting eyes, and other biophysical factors, the person may be about to commit a terrorist act.

Seems these days anyone can be called guilty and even get the death penalty with no trail, i dont see one any better than the other all are murders

gtouch

"No one ever said that the "virgins" were even female.................what if they are a bunch of hairy guys..................would love to see the terrorist faces when they find that out"

-------- Alright Gtouch, I am going to have to start charging you for all of my keyboards that you have ruined with your comments. My warranty is made invalid when I spit juice on them from uncontrolled laughter.

Amanda:

Laws are being passed, clearly in opposition to our Constitution and it appears no one is challenging them.

For the "whys" of any question, always, follow the money.

Kevin I'd rather have them dying down there...then killing up here or anywhere else for that matter.

we'll need to expand it once the islamist jihad hijack the pakki's nuclear arsenal

We need a real patriot to "go postal" and shoot the remaining 167 Islamic POS's in the head. If each 'turd' takes two to the head, the place can be cleaned out for less than 350 small calibre bullets. Cost-wise this sure beats using a drone and paid informants several years later.

Kevin can volunteer to house them at his place until trial if he's so hard up to close Gitmo.

uffff : P

What a Great idea. He'll be a Republican within a few days when it finally dawns upon him what's going on with these beasts.

your right kevin lets just execute the animals

Obama could have signed an executive order closing gitmo if he wanted. hell he pretty much signs executive orders to pass things that congress won't.

Yet obama hasn't done this. Obama killed this inmate. This is clearly obamas fault. He broke another lie by not closing the base like promised.

Try to blame it on republicans all you want. but obama is commander in chief. he could close it if he wanted but wont do it.

obama should be prosecuted for war crimes by an international court.

john haddock, you are spamming. or else you need your meds and forgot you just wrote exactly the same thing.

If he had, Im sure you would have criticized him for that too.

A shame that the Republicans in Congress were able to block any funding for trials on US soil or for closure of Gitmo.

Skrekk--so, you don't think there was ANY possibility that some other 'wak job' Islamicist would not have found a NYC courthouse trying one of his fellow radicals would be the PERFECT place for another terror attack?

To give Obama his due, I think once his military advisors told him the facts, he QUIT pushing for closing Guantanamo.

Obumba was also going to do away with special interest running Washington. It's actually more prevalent now than it was. Thanks Obumba!!!!

Shrekk,,too bad Obama didn't check his facts before making such promises. NO state in the country wanted to have those prisoners on their grounds. The DEMOCRATS were ALL in power Long after the YEAR Obama promised it would take for the closure.

There's no reason why military trials can't be held there, but that's just one more thing he's let go by the wayside.

skrekk

A shame that the Republicans in Congress were able to block any funding for trials on US soil or for closure of Gitmo.

Too bad the facts don't back you up on this skrekk. You might try research before posting.

On January 22, 2009 as one of his first official acts in office, Barack Obama signed an executive order to close GITMO within one year. On that day Obama said, “This is me following through on not just a commitment I made during the campaign, but I think an understanding that dates back to our founding fathers, that we are willing to observe core standards of conduct, not just when it’s easy, but also when it’s hard.

In May 2009 only 6 Senate Democrats voted NO on the amendment to, “To prohibit funding to transfer, release, or incarcerate detainees detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to or within the United States.”

Progressive heroes Chuck Schumer, Byron Dorgan, and Russ Feingold all sided with the Republican minority and voted to deny Obama the funding that he needed to close GITMO and relocate the detainees. Only six Democrats stood with the president on closing GITMO, Durbin, Harkin, Reed, Levin, Leahy, and Whitehouse.

The libbies on here have little use for facts or the truth, since they get all there "news" from NBC and MSNBC

Obama could have signed an executive order closing gitmo if he wanted. hell he pretty much signs executive orders to pass things that congress won't.

Yet obama hasn't done this. Obama killed this inmate. This is clearly obamas fault. He broke another lie by not closing the base like promised.

Try to blame it on republicans all you want. but obama is commander in chief. he could close it if he wanted but wont do it.

obama should be prosecuted for war crimes by an international court.

gtouch - Too bad the facts don't back you up on this skrekk.

Sounds like you're actually agreeing with me - Obama tried to close it, Congress blocked that attempt, and while only six honorable Democrats voted to do the right thing, the entire GOP voted in lockstep to oppose Obama and voted to keep Gitmo open.

So for Republicans to blame Obama for that is ludicrous.

Janine-1645002 - Shrekk,,too bad Obama didn't check his facts before making such promises. NO state in the country wanted to have those prisoners on their grounds.

Actually Illinois wanted it, but Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA) scuttled the plans. Wolf sits on the House appropriations committee and is the chair of the spending subcommittee that controls the Justice Department budget.

http://progressillinois.com/quick-hits/content/2012/06/13/lone-wolf-stymies-thomson-conversion-federal-prison

Yet one lawmaker has evidently stopped the conversion of Thomson Correctional Center to a Federal Bureau of Prisons operated facility: U.S. Rep. Frank Wolf (pictured), a Republican from Virginia. “The matter has been discussed and debated for over a year,” said U.S. Senator Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat at the Senate committee meeting. “It was held up by one Republican Congressman.”

Originally Illinois offered to use the Thomson Correctional Center to house the Gitmo prisoners, but after that got scuttled by Congress they offered it to house other terrorism prisoners. One Republican in Congress blocked that, according to the guy who was intimately involved in the negotiations with the DoJ.

our prisons have become madrassa schools to fit suicide vests

"Supposed to" is what this administration is all about.

Obama could have signed an executive order closing gitmo if he wanted. hell he pretty much signs executive orders to pass things that congress won't.

Yet obama hasn't done this. Obama killed this inmate. This is clearly obamas fault. He broke another lie by not closing the base like promised.

Try to blame it on republicans all you want. but obama is commander in chief. he could close it if he wanted but wont do it.

obama should be prosecuted for war crimes by an international court.

Hey John, are you seriously that friggin stupid? I'm not calling names, I seriously want to know. Time to change your drool bib, there guy.

And another one gone, and another one gone. Another one bites the dust!!!!!

We all are going to bite the dust just a matter of time but what a bunch of idiots we are this world is not much better than a crap hole to bad for the children and animals we are leaving them something really special destroying there world with fear and greed

Naw, he choked fellating his cell-mate.

They didn't say anything about him being a liberal.

obama lost another vote dang it.

Obama could have signed an executive order closing gitmo if he wanted. hell he pretty much signs executive orders to pass things that congress won't.

Yet obama hasn't done this. Obama killed this inmate. This is clearly obamas fault. He broke another lie by not closing the base like promised.

Try to blame it on republicans all you want. but obama is commander in chief. he could close it if he wanted but wont do it.

obama should be prosecuted for war crimes by an international court.

hear, HEAR Nothing new. Thank you for showing common sense.

So you have done extensive reading but you havent been there or seen it? Hmmm

At any rate, we dont have all the information and the news jumped the gun by writing this article. people die in prison all the time.

People who die in prison have had a trial. This comment thread sickens me "kill them terrurusts! we know thur terrurusts cuz they were in on of dem countries that hates Murrica!"

If we locked up all the ignorant villagers like ixlr8 we'd be alot better off as a species.

Why don't you just leave our country already? Not happy....then just go, nobody is stopping you from living in a better country.....bye

Miss 'know it all'...

Have you actually been there and have actually witnessed first hand the conditions?
Or, are you a member of one of these organizations that actually support these terrorists?
These animals were put there because of their association and participation , both active, of well-known and recognized terrorist organizations that advocate harm to our military, irregardless of ANY collateral damage they inflict on innocent men, women and children.
I guess that you have sequestered yourself, among with your associates within the confines where you claim not to view the current news reports of what these same terrorist organizations have done in the name and goal of their respective organizations.

What you need is a direct, in your face, dose of reality, and see first hand what these animals are capable of doing.

Then again, I believe that you are NOT an American citizen, much like those of your ilk have shown themselves to be...supporters of terrorists and supporting their goals and dreams...

throwing a piss cocktail on somebody, he should have been shot on the spot

I cannot believe that CLPL even took the time to type that.

courage you ignorant slut you don't like the way its done here then get the hell out

Who is the author of the sh!t you read? Why don't you just move your scabby ass out of the country?

Funny how much of the right-wing GOPea Brainers here spout the same hatred as the fascist supporters of Adolph Hitler leading up to our involvement in World War II. How many INNOCENT people died because they were labeled "traitorous, dangerous, leftist, liberal, communist" whether they were or not? MIllions? Yeah, that's what I thought.

RIGHT-WING TEA MORONS = FASCISTS*

(*FROM WIKIPEDIA: Fascism ( /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology.^[1][2] Fascists seek elevation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people through national identity. They are united by suprapersonal connections of ancestry and culture through a totalitarian state that seeks the mass mobilization of the national community through discipline, indoctrination, physical training, and eugenics.^[3][4] Fascism seeks to eradicate perceived foreign influences that are deemed to be causing degeneration of the nation or of not fitting into the national culture.^[5)

^{SOUND FAMILIAR??}

^{ALSO, NOTICE HOW MANY OF THEM ARE TOO CHICKEN-SH** TO USE THEIR OWN NAMES??}

Yes, it certainly sounds like the rise of the Reich-wing.

"Those dirty (Jews) Muslims!"

The first mistake we made was to take these terrorists alive.... the second was putting them at Gitmo, the third is not spending the cost of a single bullet to allow them to join their allah and his virgin boys. A Korean colonel told me in 1964 that we would lose the war in Vietnam because we would not fight it the way the VC were fighting it.... he was right. We will lose the war against the Islamists for the same reason. You fight fire with fire and let God sort out the bodies later. I took more bamboo sticks out of GI feet that were dipped in dung, tried to reconstruct blown apart young men who tried to help a wounded Cong that was booby-trapped than I can remember.... am I bitter, you bet.... send all of the terrorists AND anyone who supports them to the same hell. Any of you bleeding heart lefties that feel any sympathy for the murdering terrorists at Gitmo or in the middle east, go visit a rehab hospital for vets and see if you feel the same way. I have been there, and for my money, I would send all of the bleeding hearts to hell, along with the Islamists... our country would definitely be a better place.

I don't even like your name, Lady. At all. much less the crap you're spouting. There's two sides to every story and obviously you only read the ones that appeal to your stupid beret-wearing a$$. Now not only do I want to shoot the creep in the face (*yes, even if he's dead) but I want to throw a cup of pee in yours and see what your reaction would be. "Ooh you big meanie. Stop that." Right? And my father fought eight major campaigns in WWII, three tours in Korea, and would have gone to Viet Nam if he wasn't nine months too old, AND ALL SO HUMAN OFFAL LIKE YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT. You want hemp? thank a hippie. You want freedom? THANK A VET YOU B*TCH

Yep thats why your not having to wear a veil blame...... that on the Army . You havent been sold into sexual slavery.....blame that on the Army. You can still speak English and criticize the Army...Blame that on the Army.

Whether ya all like it or not We still are war and it seems to me these people in Gitmo are prisoners of war and shouldnt be let loose yet...and the only trial , by uscmj, should be whether they qualify for execution under the crimes against humanity... not to see if they should be released

Cowards ready to kill off any threat even if not real

Hitler is alive and well by the looks of things

gtouch

I cannot believe that CLPL even took the time to type that

-------- What's worse is that I actually took the time to read it. Now I have to do something, anything, to get it out of my head. Wtf?

And atheist wallstreet protesters who never worked a day in their life.

and, I take it that you have NEVER worked a productive day during the course of your pathetic and spoiled life...

We have the same kind of prisons for our own US prisoners Courage. You know cable TV, College educations, gyms. Some going in there are raising their standard of living.

They mix up the Christians and Jews and Athiests all together, along with the Muslims and the Gangbangers

Typical spoiled brat - wannabe hippie-hobo nonsense. That act was old in '68,..in 2012 it's downright hysterical. Ethnomasochistic oikophobes, hating Mom and Dad and the society that gave them everything.

When I think back to them 'bohemian chicks' in their peasant dresses, with the dirty feet sticking out of their sandals, makes me want to hurl. I can't remember if they looked as bad as they smelled,...or smelled as bad as they looked,...6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

Burt - guess what?

You're really old.

"RealAmericansFirst: Not as old as you may think,..beating down unruly and vicious hippies has kept me in pretty good shape. The trick is avoiding rolling around on the ground with them filthy buggers, just knock 'em down and then keep 'em down. I wear heavy steel-toe boots. It is just like wearing ankle weights, so when I put the boot to them,..I'm also working my calves and thighs and get a pretty good cardio too!

Forget isometrics, cross-training, even that P-90x stuff - if you really want to get in shape and stay that way - I recommend tossing hippies around. The old hippies were actually tougher than these new punks that flinch and run when they think their laptop is about to get scratched.

I normally don't do endorsements,...but I recommend a quality weldor's boot like Wolverine.

CourageLovePeaceLive... Jane Fonda is still looked at as a dumb (insert the most derogatory word you can think of here) and she was a movie star. I hope you don't spew that horse sh!t out in public because it's pretty embarrassing.

Hey Chuck Hauf, I worked my way through college in a Meat Packing Plant and have my own business which employs good people. For that I am grateful. There is a cure for your jock itch..........

What????? OMG you are clueless....LOL

POT SMOKIN - Mindless WART - Maybe they should find a Prison For your MOUTH BUTT I am Sure You Place It In Detention Volutarily !

There are Christians in prisons, Einstein.(clpl, or claptrap, whatever your name is) check out what happens to them in Saudi, in Ethiopia, in Sudan, in parts of China, in parts of Russia, and even in good ol' Canada if they try to preach in the streets in Quebec. NOT to mention more Muslim countries. Try Afghanistan.

skrekk:

Notice how the 'reich'-wingers are SO RETARDED THEY CAN'T EVEN ACCEPT FACTS AS FACTS? ALL THEY CAN DO IS SLING BARBS! The truth is they can't accept the fact that Whitey is on his way out as the world ruler! (Remember all you inbred 'reich'-wingers: "Ye shall reap what ye hath sown" and "Live by the sword, die by the sword")

The ultra right-wing is what is leading to the downfall of the United States. The fact is that they will vote against their own self-interest when some billionaire pulls their strings with race-baiting and code words and they just get dumber and dumber and dumber!

Yes, Robert B. It almost makes me believe these ignorant, hateful, venegful people are Demon possessed. They just don't sound human.

It turns out the dead prisoner was Adnan Latif, who had previously been ordered released in a habeas corpus ruling due to lack of any evidence against him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/adnan-latif-dead-guantanamo_n_1874333.html

http://witnesstorture.org/survivors/adnan-farhan-abdul-latif/

http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2011/02/10/a-cry-for-help-from-guantanamo-adnan-latif-asks-who-is-going-to-rescue-me-from-the-injustice-and-the-torture-i-am-enduring/

There shouldn't be any speculation.

They should have been tried by now.

You're a disgrace to your avatar.

The United States of America used to stand for something.

Your attitude needs to crawl back under the rock it came from.

I agree that the USA used to stand for something. As a traitor, the government hanged you after a fair trial. As a terrorist (Nazi's), the government held trials and hanged most of the leaders. As a real American, men enlisted to serve their country and not whine about perceived problems as you are so want to do. Tell momma to button up her blouse and go play outside.

What they neglected to tell him during indoctrination was that the "virgins" ... are goats.

ufff : P

I like your style Burt Z, kind of makes me think of what the animals did to our civilian construction experts who were in Iraq trying to rebuild their country. The guy deserved to die the way he lived, like a filthy feces-flinging monkey.

Adela-884556: Americans routinely get killed and abused around the world, the media won't report it, they really don't care, unless it fits their narrative. They have an agenda that needs gloom and shadows to grow,..our agenda only needs illumination.

We are on our own,..but we are not alone. Righteous folk must stick together.

Con-science: Might have been that last concussion,..but I must confess, I HAD to stare at that: "ufff : P" for a good while 'til I figured it out. Read a couple of your recent comments,..nice work. Keep swingin.

Yep. The dumbass Americans who believe the right-wing garbage while it allows the ultra-rich to concentrate their wealth and power (think Koch Brothers).

Hey, mid-America: Do you really think the corporate likes of the Koch Brothers (and others) have your best interests at heart? Do you think they will not dump their toxic waste or pollute the air and water in YOUR neighborhood because you vote Republican?? Especially if it takes even ONE PENNY out of their pockets?? THEIR OWN YOUNGER BROTHER EXPOSED THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE!

All one has to do is look at South America in the 80s & 90s: The ultra-rich protected by the military juntas, dictators and armed guards while the majority (the NEARLY 99%) struggled to eek out an existence on no minimum wage, no education, and no human and civil rights. Who protected THOSE at the top? The ultra-right wing. Who fought for the majority? The "leftists"!

Why do so many hate us in the Middle East? Because, when it comes to "democracy" we talk-the-talk but don't walk-the-walk. Do you REALLY believe that 9/11 would have EVER happened if we had been undertaking "even-handed" policies in the Middle East for the last 60 years or pushed our "friends" for democratic change?? Dictators (as friends) can only be counted on for so long. Now, the people are having their revenge for 60 years of oil-centered greed and brutalization.

I don't condone what "terrorists" do but I sure as hell can understand it.

Sandy, Obama made promises he could never keep. NO STATE in this country wanted that scum in their prisons or their courtrooms. Obama could have held a military tribunal down there.

As for the GOP being involved the Democrats were in FULL POWER the first full year of Obama's presidency and nothing was done. So don't blame the republicans for it.

People charged with terrorism have no rights. These aren't poor misunderstood American Criminals. These are people charged with 9/11 attack and other acts of terrorism.

Should they be tried? HELL YEAH. Down there. NO ONE wants them here. I sure as hell wouldn't want them in any American prison.

The democrats controlled Congress in Bush's last two years and Obama's first two years.

To blame everything on the republicans is asinine. Some people just need to get informed before they open there mouths; before they show the world how gullible they are.

Obama had the power to close it down just like he had the power to implement his tax reform. He choose to keep it open and he choose the push for and get the tax cuts to the rich in 2010.

As for the GOP being involved the Democrats were in FULL POWER the first full year of Obama's presidency

LIE

The GOP has abused the filibuster a record number of times, making 60 votes a requirement to pass anything in the Senate.

The Democrats had that 60-vote margin for a total of 24 days from 2008 to 2010. Because either Teddy Kennedy or Robert Byrd was out sick or had died, or there was an unfilled seat due to special elections, slow vote counts (Minnesota), etc.

Lies, lies, lies

• As a member of the 101st Airborne i will tell you that it is GOD'S job to determine these Muslims' guilt or innocence......it is MY JOB TO ARRANGE THE MEETING

You just Playjerized Norman Swartzkoff

• ""As a member of the 101st Airborne i will tell you that it is GOD'S job to determine these Muslims' guilt or innocence......it is MY JOB TO ARRANGE THE MEETING""

Now that's funny

1 up to ya trooper---tour ja' pret

whooo rahhh 101st..As a member of 2/75th let me know if you need any special deliveries or have any late RSVP's.