A bold (and broad) statement, Jeffrey. I suppose asking for the source of this tidbit of knowledge is out of the question.

The truth is that we don't know what effect GMO's have on people over the long run. And I, for one, do not want them "tested" on me or my children.

Jeffrey D Parks

GMO foods cause cancer among other deadly disease and will make you infertile to control world population.

Well Michael Taylor was just appointed senior advisor to the commissioner of the FDA. This is the same man that was in charge of FDA policy when GMO's were allowed into the US food supply without undergoing a single test to determine their safety.

He had been Monsanto's attorney before becoming policy chief at the FDA and then he became Monsanto's Vice President and chief lobbyist. This month he became the senior advisor to the commissioner of the FDA.

This should quell the right's fear that Obama is creating an ongoing disconnect between private interests and government. In reality, this big Obama government thing may be only big because of it's inflated interests with huge corporations.

Frank Anderson previous employment of an adviser is irrelevant to weather or not GMO's cause cancer.

And when "mother nature" does the genetic experiments it is totally safe and OK to eat hybrids?? When humans do it suddenly it causes "cancer"............err so does charcoal broiled meat, fish not to mention smoking and drinking alcoholic beverages

@ Jeffrey - please provide evidence of your post.

Time and research will attest to whether golden rice has harmful or beneficial effects on one's diet. The issue here is testing it on the poor and the young without their knowledge or consent. Sounds to me like another "golden shower" courtesy of your oppressive government.

James, previous employment is not the question, it is the revolving door between our regulatory agencies and industry. You can't trust someone to effectively regulate a corporation that paid them millions while working in the private sector when they are now only making five figures to regulate said company while they working in the public sector. Michael Taylor has shown time and time again where his loyalty lies, and that is with Monsanto. Every INDEPENDENT study that Monsanto has not poisoned by "funding" it has proved that GMO food's are toxic. The mice all died, the rat became infertile, the cows stomachs had lesions.

When I was a teenagers we ate the same food, minus the genetic modification, that the kids are eating now, and yet we were not obese, we did not have ADHD, we did not have to drink 5 energy drinks a day just to function, we did not have testicular cancer (even though we smoked MORE pot that the kids do today). Crohn's disease has increased 8000% since 1991, infertility and sterility has increased %1000 percent, Autism has increased %5000 percent. Something is wrong and all indicators point ot GMO's.

Now if Monsanto would not have such a long history of creating toxic substances and then lying about their health affects on the population I might be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt, but from their beginning they have done nothing by lie to cover-up their failures. From DDT to Agent Orange to Aspertame to GMO's it has been one big propaganda campaign to keep from getting their asses sued off by the millions upon millions of people the have murdered and left deformed.

"Apart from genetically modified products, China's vast and unruly food sector is still struggling to come to grips with food safety four years after a major scandal where tainted milk powder was blamed for the deaths of at least six children."

---------------- That dam* unruly food again killing children. Once food gets a taste of humans, the only thing you can do is put it down. Humans are always encroaching on the unruly food's habitat. That's the real problem.

@BodyDouble:

Aside from the typical rants which should be directed at monsanto but are instead used to burden all instances of GM, really all you are doing is assuming that the cause of mysteries automatically valdiate your own previously held conspiracy theory, if it can't be explained GMO must automatically be the culprit in your mind.

If we will stop breeding ourselves into annihilation we probably will not need genetically manipulated products. Once food supplies run out or there's a major problem with our existing food supply, I predict that GM foods will start to taste mighty good.

Folks, these things are developed because EACH of US seems incapable of seeing that our species has already reached critical mass. Scientists are scrambling to find ways to feed people. The easiest way to solve so many problems is simply to quit having so many offspring. (And, no, I do not have any children. I prefer to adopt. )

Well that is a waste, people here can't see past their little minds and are Media controlled robots and don't have the ability to think past this week let alone 10 years, they all think Gold will be worth something when the Sh_t world economy collapses and food is being fought over, because with the droughts and all the weather changes there will be less and less food as the Greedy RICH pollute both land and sea drilling for more OIL to make more money tell me what will be of more value food, drinking water or money. People need to pull their head out of their azz and take a look at the real world 10 years from now, and who do you all think will suffer, yea YOUR KIDS if you all were as intelligent as you think you are then would you bring your kids in too this FU_KED up world, Oh I forgot you couldn't see past that week. What a bunch of morons.

There are two clear issues here - the first is whether these studies were conducted ethically or not. It seems proper consent was not given to these families, making the study unethical as it pertains to human tests. Human tests are warranted of course and are not unethical if carried out properly. That means paperwork, time, and money. Somebody cut some corners here.

The second issue is whether or not this rice will kill you. I highly doubt that rice with beta carotene will kill you - so back off all you "GMO causes cancer" weirdos. I suppose a vitamin A toxicity could develop if each child ate their weight in the rice three times a day, but other than that it seems benign. Actually, it seems healthy.

Perspective. Gain some.

"Regulations? We don't need no stinking
regulations" said the bandidos.

Such a surprise? What about the tomato/fish they introduced a few decades ago? Lord knows what we have already eaten. Maybe now monsanto and dupont will finally fade away. And from what I gather and have read is that an acidic body and environment causes cancer, that cancer is a fungus which grows in acidic conditions which if you raise your ph level it would make your blood a hostile place for viruses to grow. But having GMO foods and "better living through chemistry" doesnt help there radagast. Ever notice how people between 50 & 60 are dying earlier than say grandpa who is 101 or more. GMO foods didnt exist back then......hmmmmm. Now look at all the cancers we have......

Putting beta carotene into rice probably isn't carcinogenic. The method, however, might be suspect. My gut instinct says it's safe and not really a big deal, but I don't think it's ethical to use kids as test subjects until it's known for certain.

Now, if these modifiers were to use their OWN children as guinea pigs, I'd feel better about it.......

to all those who want proof if GMO causes cancer....go sign up in place of these kids!! Go do it. I dare you and I bet you wont....because everything made by humans working with chemicals causes cancer...you dont have to be a scientist to know that...just a tiny smartness will do. (i know you love smartness lol)

Cancer is causes when abnormalities in our dna are present....what do you think chemicals made if a lab does...wow how blind do you have to be. Go eat your toothpaste...enjoy your aluminum.

Indigogal

good point, we also did not have colon cancer, breast cancer (aluminum in deodorant) etc...i agree with you

not only this but like another poster said, its the method they get it into the rice that is mostly dangerous....the more you process food the more dangerous it is for our bodies...this isnt just spraying rice....its completely modifiying its chemical make-up

Since proof is asked for, will it be examined?

Just Label GMO! - Pt. 1 - Jeffrey Smith

GMOs are not merely hybrids. It is utter ignorance to suggest that. Find out why the EU has banned them. They are nearly perpetual poisons.

Monsanto bought up a research company that was concluding that GMOs were behind Bee Colony Collapse. Scientific studies have proven that they are. Key people linked to Monsanto dominate the most sensitive areas in the O'Bomber Administration to block attempts by concerned experts to halt GMOs in any manner, in this nation. This was after the O'Bomber promised in his campaign that GMOs would have to be labelled in foods. He's done the exact reverse.

Monsanto, the evil corporation behind PCBs and Agent Orange will stop at nothing to obtain a seed monopoly. Yet, we have complete fools on this forum making inane jokes and worthless analogies. Go drink your daily glass of Round Up and get back to us.

Would you expect more from a communist country! OF course they use innocent children to test man-made products on yet they are most likely using the poor kids as their guinea pigs, not those of wealth.

But here is the kicker if GMO foods were so safe then why are they not labeled and WHY do most countries of Intelligence (except the USA and Canada) Ban these un-natural foods.

Can they cause cancer---probably after lengthy consumption as they are not natural foods in far from---for teir DNA makeup in ombined with pesticides and HGH. Can't wash the pesticides off for they are biologically engineered into the DNA makeup. The seeds do not fall from the plant instead they are made in Labs---hence as unnatural as they can come.

Ultimately man makes the seeds not Mother Nature! Does man care if these seeds contribute to drought for they have been found to kill the nutrients in soils, does man care if they are unnatural no--as long as they can sell it!

BTW: President Obama---if you want to get elected either get rid of these seeds or at leamt begin to mandate labels on potentially dangerous foods! YOU PEOPLE THAT YOU SPOKE TO and OF DO NOT SUPPORT GMO PRODUCTS!

@Sam627556

People need to pull their head out of their azz and take a look at the real world 10 years from now...

Internet equivlent of the guy standing on the corner with a "The End is Near" sign.

People have been foretelling gloom and doom right around the corner for centuries. Their problem is that they are so full of their own BS that they fail to recognize that other people don't like doom or gloom so they take action to avoid it thus ending the "threat" of it.

sillyshrinks

But here is the kicker if GMO foods were so safe then why are they not labeled and WHY do most countries of Intelligence (except the USA and Canada) Ban these un-natural foods.

Most countries of "Intelligence" are full of and generally run by morons (including the USA and Canada). Try to remember, politicians keep their jobs by being elected so if the sheep get scared the politicians react whether the fear is rational or not. Trying to use whether or not something has been banned by politicians as a benchmark for that products safety is beyond laughable. Just look at all of the stupid @!$%# people vote for here and try to tell me you think peoples judgement in other countries is any more trustworthy.

It's OK everyone!!! They only used little Chineese girls for the tests. That way they didn't have to risk any of their valuable boys. Those girls weren't going to be adopted by some other country anyway, they were over two years old. And we all know they stop being cute about then. They got some free nutrition, which was kind of a waste, but I guess that couldn't be helped. Still, it's all OK you can go on about your lives now.

Come on people, this is a non-story,

For all those that hate GMO's:
http://science.psu.edu/journal/Spring2007/GMOFeature.htm

to all those who want proof if GMO causes cancer....go sign up in place of these kids!! Go do it. I dare you and I bet you wont....because everything made by humans working with chemicals causes cancer...you dont have to be a scientist to know that...just a tiny smartness will do. (i know you love smartness lol)

You are correct, as no scientist knows that everything made by humans working with chemicals causes cancer. In order to believe this, you have to not be a scientist and have only a tiny bit of smartness.

Do you know that everything on the planet earth is a chemical? The air you breath is made out of chemicals. The chairs you sit on and the ground you walk on is made out of chemicals. In fact, you yourself are also made out of chemicals.

Yes, some chemicals do cause cancer. We are slowly discovering which ones, but putting beta carotene in rice is not going to cause cancer in anyone who wasn't already going to get that cancer anyway.

And yes, I wouldn't have any problem with consuming this rice and would be willing to sign up for the study, based on the evidence provided so far.

"to all those who want proof if GMO causes cancer....go sign up in place of these kids!!"

Sign up to eat some rice, get my daily dose of vitamin A, AND be compensated for my time??

Sign me up!

In fact I've participated in several studies already and would gladly do it again because it provides data to research projects that would stall without volunteers. They need to use these children because these children represent real-world instances of malnutrition. They weren't measuring safety - they were measuring efficacy. They already know it is safe. You can't just give the rice to healthy people and measure whether or not it reverses their malnutrition - you need people like these children to participate.

@ BodyDouble - you post some interesting statistics, but no proof this is from GMO products. There are other factors to be considered, like processing after harvest, genetics, and environment. It is a fools errand to blame it all on GMO. I am one who proves you wrong. I was diagnosed with cancer at 47. I grew up eating home grown foods, without pesticides and other additives. But, there is a history of various cancers in my family. Also, a number of folks in my neighborhood, (of those who have been here for decades) who have had various types of cancer, and we are not related. So which is it? The food I ate, which was non-GMO, my family history, or the neighborhood I live in. (BTW, when I sought a second opinion for my cancer, the Dr told me there were a spike in the type of cancer I had in our area that they couldn't figure out where it was coming from.) Until specific testing is done that can eliminate the other factors, there is no proof. It would be easier to believe keeping all those babies alive that would have died a century ago is why we have these increased problems. A century ago, they wouldn't have lived past infancy. Now we are saving them. Is that hurting our genetic pool?

....because everything made by humans working with chemicals causes cancer

BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!!!!!

the stuff is deadly, it can kill in minutes if inhaled, it causes corrosion, it causes all sorts of terrible problems and yet we allow millions of gallons to flow unregulated into our storm drains and waste systems

http://dhmo.org/

roadlesstraveled

I'll sign up! no problem,

Did you all know that non-GMO rice has never been tested to see if it is safe to eat, nor has that apple you had at lunch. The point here is we go on a mad panic about GMO food being tested when we don't even know if non-GMO food could be harmful in the long term. Because we deem it "natural".

What? The American government in bed with monolithic corporations doing unethical and illegal things? Say it aint so!

They can shower the peasants with free food. "Golden rice showers," so to speak.

Sounds like their version of "trickle down" but with rice. In America we just got Pis*ed on by the wealthy.

Do you understand why they call it Golden rice, because it will be worth more than gold when the food supplies are gone. You won't be able to give gold away when the food is gone.

Sure Sam, it can't possibly be because the addition of beta carotene to the genome gave it a 'golden' hue. That would be too obvious. It's still rice, still needs ground to grow on. Slightly more nutritious rice (supposedly, but rice is nutritionally blank so any nutrition in it would be a good thing, not that I'm going to eat it anyway), but rice all the same. Not going to be worth any more than any other rice when the food supplies are gone because, guess what, it will be gone too. Actually the GMO's are going to be worth nothing when the world economy collapses because they are not self replicating. The heirloom varieties will be the ones in great demand because the seed can be saved for next year's crop.

Enough-2735007, I was with you until you said that GMO crops aren't self replicating. I've never heard of that and I'm 100% sure it is false. These plants flower and produce pollen just as all the other plants on the planet do. They are fertile and they will produce viable seeds. Where do you think the seeds come from in the first place?

@radagast

Enough-2735007, I was with you until you said that GMO crops aren't self replicating. I've never heard of that and I'm 100% sure it is false. These plants flower and produce pollen just as all the other plants on the planet do. They are fertile and they will produce viable seeds. Where do you think the seeds come from in the first place?

You understand that GMO stands for genetically modified organisms right?

That said, not all GMO crops are V-GURT. V-GURT or "terminator" seeds are intended to protect the investment of the companies that pour billions of dollars into research and want to be sure they get paid every year for their efforts. Otherwise farmers could just save a portion of last years crop for planting next season as opposed to having to buy seed every year. It is controversial but is hardly the result of some conspiracy to control the worlds food supply as some fruit cakes seem to believe.

thats exactly what it is, so farmer HAVE to buy the seeds every years. that is a huge control over everybody

@baguette

thats exactly what it is, so farmer HAVE to buy the seeds every years. that is a huge control over everybody

No they don't "HAVE" to buy seeds every year. They can continue to plant non V-GURT seed and produce their own seed crop. If they want the benefits that the GMO crops posses they have to pay for those benefits every year. There is no control as long as there is still a choice as which type of seed you want to plant.

It's easy to cry foul on the seed companies but lets look at the WHOLE picture shall we? These companies invest billions producing these hybrids, why would they bother to do that if they were just going to lose money? If we want better things we need to pay for them, if we don't want to pay for them no one is going to invent them.

You are correct, some crops are terminator. But that is by design not a function of simply being GMO. There are plenty of strains that can be propagated.

Jax that link said absolutely nothing about what kind of industry Israel has, all it mentioned was the fact that they get $3 billion a year in aid from the US tax payers. The article was a question and answer with an Israli giving the answers they wanted us to hear. and another thing, THEY RAISED TAXES WHEN THE ECONOMY BIT THE DUST, WHEREAS THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO CUT TAXES WHILE STILL SHIPPING $3 BILLION A YEAR TO ISRAEL.

If their economy is so great then they don't need us to send them money anymore, we can use that money here to rebuild our economy.

Oops my computer froze up and I ended up posting on the wrong board. I had too many windows open at once.

Actually the reason the are no reproducing is becasue the environmentalist complained bitterly about it when Monsanto produce corn and wheat that was GMO and the seeds could be planted from the original crop. This bought about a crap storm about the world being taken over by GMO corn.

SO really you can't have it both ways. Accuse companies of spreading GMO recklessly around and when they fix that problem accuse them of forcing people to re-buy seeds. Also there are several varieties of hydrid corn than is sterile no GMO involved and farmers must buy seed each year.

^Monsanto troll....

Kinda sorta like nuclear power is the miracle of our age. A wonderful example of what our descendants 200 generations removed from the present will have to deal with when trying to mitigate the disastrous effects of 40 million tons of spent radioactive fuel rods. Yeah, we're geniuses.

So why the fight over labelling GMO's?

Tranquil Nihilist: we had a plan, states just didn't like shipping spent fuel in near impenetrable casks (hit it with a train, burn it in jet fuel, no leaks) through their territory.

Chazak: because people are easier to whip up into a paranoid frenzy then they are to educated on who genetics works. would you eat rocky montain oasters if it was renammed bull testicles?

GM Rice was the result of 2 men on opposite sides of the world working to develop the same thing for, oh, about 20 yrs. They were stumped until they discovered they were working on the same thing. After combining their knowledge they succeeded and offered it for free to the world. Rice is the man food for poor countries. Since rice doesn't have vitamin C the number of blind children and adults are astonishing. Hundreds of thousands...millions...I don't know the number but it was horrifying.

These 2 top genetic scientist deacated their lives to bring this to futation and offered the patients to the world for f**ing free to save children from blindness. Give me a break. This is incredible. I've followed Golden Rice (it's yellow) for years. It needs to be released.

Bill H, "Miracle of our age" is not quite the phrase I would use, more like END OF OUR AGE. GMO'S are population control disguised as food. Mother nature has had billions of years to perfect the food we eat and yet man in his arrogance thinks that he knows how to do it better. Thats why we now have super weeds that are resistant to monsanto's poison, and super bugs that can consume BT toxin. And that is also why diseases that were rare 30 years ago are so previlant in society today. Just the fact that Autism went from affecting 1 in every 1000 children to 1 in ever 20 children during the same period of time Monsanto began genetically modifying our food should send up all sorts of red flags.

You know I don't care if you wingnut republicans want to eat GMO's, Pink slime, aspertasme and all the other chemicals that you support, in fact I would prefer you continue to consume mass qauntities of all of them. But all we are asking is that they are labeled so we don't have to eat them too.

Body Double:

Mother Nature doesn't perfect anything, she works by absolute chance. For every beneficial mutation occurring naturally there are countless benign or detrimental examples. If you graded Mother Nature, she would receive an F. Her only advantage is she has had billions of years to blindly stumble into positive things. We can focus our efforts toward beneficial changes. In many cases, man DOES know how to do it better... cancer treatment, improved crop yields, wearing glasses for pity's sake!

During that same 30 years, there was a dramatic increase in measured earthquakes, we have discovered many more planet-killer asteroids, there have been genocides in Africa, wars in the Middle East.... I suppose these are all due to Monsanto GMOs too, right? I mean that's the exact same line of logic you're using.

We've detected much more cancer in the generations since Europeans settled North America, THEREFORE... settlement of North America must cause cancer. I can play that game all day. Pink slime -- well, if you had taken the time to research the actual process you would realize that it is safe. But I wouldn't want you to strain yourself... train wrecks are interesting after all.

Gabriel, unless it breeds true from itself, those poor countries aren't going to be able to afford it.

Gabriel wrote: These 2 top genetic scientist deacated their lives to bring this to futation

They did whut?

Jake - you're so right, it's a great thing we have figured out how to treat (not prevent or cure) cancer. Especially, since the instance of cancer has increased in direct proportion (if not in exponential proportion) to the increase of other things we have invented, such as GMO foods, artificial ingredients and preservatives, and the like. Do some research, the numbers and statistics speak for themselves. Humans find ways to screw up a lot of things we touch. I'm not talking about great inventions/discoveries such as electricity. I'm talking about greedy corporations thinking of ways to make more crappy products, at cheaper cost. The FDA's backlog of new food chemicals and additives is so long, they will never get through it. And the rule is (last I checked), that if they don't get around to testing and approving your proposed new poison in something like 60-90 days, boom - it goes into production, just like that. And it's in our food and our bodies, and all we have is the company's word that it's safe to consume. Why don't we isntead make it a rule that the company just has to wait however long it takes? Because in this country, "free market" and business interests come before the health of the people. We are no better than China in that regard.

@chazak

So why the fight over labelling GMO's?

Because once the sheeple believe it is bad nothing will ever change their minds. Any attempt to apply logic and reason will be met with responses such as -"^Monsanto troll...." and "GMO'S are population control disguised as food" etc...

Basically people are just too stupid to be told the truth because they won't believe it anyway. Consider this- How many people do you know who actually believe you can catch a cold by going out without a jacket and getting chilled? Rhinovirus was discovered in the friggin 50's but people still believe colds are caused by environmental stresses. Fear breeds irrationality and people are generall afraid of anything new; once that fear is set it stays. Even if GMO's were proven 100% safe tomorrow it would be decades before the stigma would wear off.

Bull@!$%#! the sheeple are the morons who believe industry can do no wrong, that no amount of chemicals in our diet are harmful, that organic is not any better for you than processed, that pollution doesn't hurt the environment. You can always tell a monsanto troll by the language they use. They instantly try and discredit everyone who disagrees with them by calling them paranoid, but if you look at the history of monsanto, the products they have developed and the lies they told and were subsequently caught in over the years the paranoia is more than warranted. EVERYTHING they have ever made has been proven to be poisonous and toxic, and they lied everytime. Tell me one product that they have produced that is not hazardous to humans, just one! You can't, alls they know how to make is poison. Agent Orange is still causing birth defects in Vietnam, within 1 year of the release of aspertame a rare form of brain tumor increase %500, as for bovine growth hormone their own internal documents were stolen and prove with out a shodow of a doubt that it is harmful to humans and that they know it is and tried to cover it up.

Like I said if you idiots want to eat their poison that is fine, just label it so the rest of us have the god given right to choose for ourselves. This is America after all, where we are supposed to be free to make thos kind of choices ourselves. Why should BIG GOVERNMENT TEAMED UP WITH BIG INDUSTRY HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE US TO EAT FOOD WE DON'T WANT TO EAT.

Thank you jake, your comment will be posted on every christian website I can find, because to them "mother nature" is "god", I am sure they will be happy to find out just what Monsanto thinks of "intelligent design". Please keep spewing your nonsense, every time you open your mouth it gives us more ammunition, you can't state your case without alienating someone.

Poor Jake, the GMO's have made him autisitc, trying to compare pre-1492 cancer rates to anything is a lesson in stupidity since it wasn't until the 20th century that we even knew what cancer was. But one thing we can do in this modern age of scientific discovery is look at what products industry released prior to unusual increases in certain diseases, such as Crohns disease, or birth defects like autism, and the correlation is amazing. Now I can't attest to pre-1492 cancer rates but I can attest to pre-1991 Crohns disease rates and pre-1991 Autism rates compared to post 1991 when Monsanto began genetically modifying our food.

Just label them so we can choose for ourselves what we feed our children, you can continue to produce all the toxic garbage you want, and I am sure you will always find someone greedy enough to grow it and someone stupid enough to eat it, well at least until they all die off. I know that is why you don't want people to have the right to choose, because then we will have a control group to prove once and for all your products are hazardous, as long as everyone is forced to eat them then you can blame the increase in Autism on something else, but once we have segments of the population that don't eat your poison then the proof will be in and the lawsuits will bury you.

@BodyDouble

Bull@!$%#! the sheeple are the morons who believe industry can do no wrong, that no amount of chemicals in our diet are harmful, that organic is not any better for you than processed, that pollution doesn't hurt the environment.

LOL! Who on Earth believes any of those things? The definition of sheeple is someone who cons himself into believing ridiculous drivel in order to justify his position. "No amount of chemical in our diet is harmful" , yeah right, there are people out there who think they can soak their food in drain cleaner without issue. Durrrrrr. Gross exageration will NEVER prove your point.

Well backcountry obviously Jake and the other monsanto trolls want us to believe that by the statement he posted above: "Mother Nature doesn't perfect anything, she works by absolute chance. For every beneficial mutation occurring naturally there are countless benign or detrimental examples. If you graded Mother Nature, she would receive an F. Her only advantage is she has had billions of years to blindly stumble into positive things. We can focus our efforts toward beneficial changes. In many cases, man DOES know how to do it better... cancer treatment, improved crop yields, wearing glasses for pity's sake", and many other statements posted on this very board by trolls who work for monsanto.

I seem to remember a quote by James Watt, Reagans Secretary of the Interior said about conservation of resources and evironmental protections, "we do not need to concern ourselves with protecting the environment, the second coming is at hand." That pretty much sums up the rights attitude towards our food supply too, they truly don't care if it is poison as long as they can turn a short term profit, because their imaginary friend is going to magically appear and blink his eyes like Barbara Eden in I dream of Jeanie and make it all better.But for the rest of us who don't want to be lab rats and who don't believe in your fairytales, just label the damn things so we can choose for ourselves rather than letting big government doing it for us.

did you notice that all the trolls have similar names? Jake-1394704, Gabriel-1577573, Bill H-1430012, James-4436154, hmm kind of funny don't you think. I wonder what the 7 numbers stand for? their Monsanto badge number?

Bill H, "Miracle of our age" is not quite the phrase I would use, more like END OF OUR AGE. GMO'S are population control disguised as food. Mother nature has had billions of years to perfect the food we eat and yet man in his arrogance thinks that he knows how to do it better. Thats why we now have super weeds that are resistant to monsanto's poison, and super bugs that can consume BT toxin. And that is also why diseases that were rare 30 years ago are so previlant in society today. Just the fact that Autism went from affecting 1 in every 1000 children to 1 in ever 20 children during the same period of time Monsanto began genetically modifying our food should send up all sorts of red flags.

Mother Nature hasn't perfected anything. Nature isn't a Mother. The average lifetime of a species is about 10 million years, during this time, they evolve into something else.

The reason why diseases that were rare 30 years ago are so prevalent in society is because we are living longer today and have better science, so we [a] see diseases that were rare because we didn't live long enough to catch them and [b] we see diseases because we see them as diseases, rather than just thinking the guy is a retard or an idiot.

Part of the reason we are living longer is because of GMOs...we now have better and more food.

You know I don't care if you wingnut republicans want to eat GMO's,

I am a wingnut liberal. If you doubt this, read some of my other postings.

As far as GMOs are concerned, I have no problem with them. I think the people yelling against them are just as hysterical as the Tea Party and for as poor reasons. The complaints are based on neither logic nor reasoning.

@BodyDouble

did you notice that all the trolls have similar names? Jake-1394704, Gabriel-1577573, Bill H-1430012, James-4436154, hmm kind of funny don't you think. I wonder what the 7 numbers stand for? their Monsanto badge number?

If you actually think any of these people work for or are paid by Monsanto you may need to loosen your tin-foil hat as it seems to be cutting off some circulation. As for the numbers behind their names pretty much everyone on the Vine knows what that is about. If you try to register using a common screen name like say Jake, Gabriel, Bill H, or James then the Vine automatically attaches a random 7 digit number to the end. So do you actually see a conspiracy in everything you don't understand and do you ever even attempt to find an actual answer before you start to make them up in your head?

Basically people are just too stupid to be told the truth because they won't believe it anyway. Consider this- How many people do you know who actually believe you can catch a cold by going out without a jacket and getting chilled? Rhinovirus was discovered in the friggin 50's but people still believe colds are caused by environmental stresses.

Because colds can be caused by environmental stresses. They did a study on this back in all the way back in 1965, and one in 2005; you really should catch up on your reading.

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=4691096

http://fampra.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/6/608

It's not unreasonable to see that no long-term studies have been done on GMOs and their effects on humans, and to feel uneasy. Science looks at data and draws conclusions from it. But if science does not gather the data in the first place, no conclusions can be drawn. So why isn't this data on our food supply being gathered? Would the conclusions not be what Monsanto wants to hear?

As it stands now, we are all Monsanto's guinea pigs. I don't remember volunteering for that.

I was dismayed at this as well. For all the spouting off at the mouth that the US does to other countries about how to treat its citizenry then to turn around and treat that citizenry in the same manner as the US preaches against is just pathetic and hypocritical.

Me - the article didn't say the US was aware or participated in the testing on children. Please stick with what the article actually said. I do believe it is wrong to test on anyone, regardless of age, without their consent.

The impression that I got was that the Chinese researcher was lax on the actual protocols of properly informing the test subjects' parents, while the US was lax on oversight of the Chinese researcher. I suppose we'll have to wait for the investigation.

Sure, it was the work of one diabolical researcher Shi-an Yin. That has to be it! The Chinese Government has such a stellar reputation regarding human rights that is could not be otherwise. I smell a scapegoat.

WillowBrook,

The Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention investigation came after a report last month by environmental group Greenpeace claimed that a U.S. Department of Agriculture-backed study used 24 Chinese children aged between six and eight to test genetically modified "golden rice."

In my opinion, if the US doesn't allow this type of treatment to her children, she shouldn't be backing another country treating their children in this manner. And I did highlight CLAIMED as well, facts would be nice.

@annon-2801871

In my opinion, if the US doesn't allow this type of treatment to her children, she shouldn't be backing another country treating their children in this manner. And I did highlight CLAIMED as well, facts would be nice.

"Backed" is code for we paid for it. It doesn't mean we had any control over, or even knowledge of, how the studies were being conducted.

Just b/c we choose not to pay attention to what other people are doing with our money doesn't absolve us from any wrong doing. That's just ignorance and blinders being used for any deny-ability.

Paranoia, paranoia, someone's out to get me, I'm a little bit crazy....

they know not to eat it.

Using color words like "lies" and "spews" about peoples' natural caution regarding new technology is not a particularly scientific thing to do either, ug1.

People are suspicious about GMO's because they fear the unknown. After all, an animal that went around blithely eating strange foods all the time was an animal that likely did not live to reproduce; evolutionarily speaking the lay population is reacting to this new food exactly the way evolutionary theory would predict. Scientists are not doing a particularly good job of explaining to us why we should embrace this technology.

Your analogy to natural selection makes little sense to the lay mind, since it's easy to see that all the natural selection in the world would not put a daffodil gene into rice.

The fact that there's a distinct possibility here that children were tested without their parents being adequately informed just serves to confirm the fears that people already have about this food; if it's so great, why did the researcher have to lie about it to the parents? And if the researcher lied, why should we trust scientists when they tell us that GMO's cause no harm to humans?

Can you reverse the process?

Would you rather make something before it's needed, or need something and have to make it on the spot?

We don't need population control or eugenics and we should have plenty of food.

We have enough problems with the food supply with out some scientist tinkering with the food supply.

So what about the genetically modified foods we consume in this country?

Read the labels before you buy!

GMO foods are not required to be labeled in US, while in Europe they are. basically you don't know what you are buying in most cases.

Because our country allows genetically modified foods and the FDA recently voted to NOT have these foods labeled as such.

I don’t know about the gold but people can get vitamins and as far as pesticides go I think most people are against their use.

Can they reverse the process?

Only you.

"Today corn can no longer grow in the wild because we have changed it so much through selective breeding." Will this happen to other types of GMO food crops?

None of the "grains" will grow without human intervention. They used to be grasses, but we've evolved them to something else altogether.

Why grasses? Look down at the end of your arm. Have you ever seen a better natural tool for fiddling the husks off of grass seeds?

You can go to your local store and buy vitamin A so no need for GMO's that contain vitamin A.

The poor malnourished children in developing countries would beg to differ!

Hey, Soylent Green was all natural, & organically grown!

There really no need to explain about creationist..Since human can create in which no other creature can.It just make humans a lesser god..(NOT A GOD)..Humans dont have the ability to create something from nothing, only "God" can...