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Updated at 8:40 a.m. ET: KARACHI, Pakistan -- At least 261 people burned to death as separate fires swept through two factories in Pakistan, police and government officials said Wednesday, raising questions about industrial safety in the country.
Flames raced through a garment factory in the teeming commercial capital of Karachi, killing 236 people. Weeping relatives in hospitals and morgues heaped criticism on the deeply unpopular government.
"People started screaming for their lives," said Mohammad Asif, 20. "Everyone came to the window. I jumped from the third floor."
Rehan Khan / EPA
A man tries to identify body of his relative at a mortuary following a huge fire at a garment factory in Karachi, Pakistan, Wednesday.
In the eastern city of Lahore, a fire raged in a shoe factory, killing at least 25 people.
More photos: Blazes at factories in Karachi and Lahore
Critics say Pakistan's corrupt and ineffective government has failed to tackle the country's problems. The country is racked by a Taliban insurgency, widespread poverty, spiraling crime and daily power cuts.
"The owners were more concerned with safeguarding the garments in the factory than the workers," said garment factory employee Mohammad Pervez, holding up a photograph of his cousin, who is also a worker there and is missing. "If there were no metal grills on the windows a lot of people would have been saved. The factory was overflowing with garments and fabrics. Whoever complained was fired."
The Guardian newspaper quoted injured factory worker Mohammad Ilyas, who also said that bars on the windows had stopped workers from escaping easily:
"Some of us quickly took tools and machines to break the iron bars," he said, speaking from a hospital in Karachi, the Guardian reported. "That's how we managed to jump out of the windows down to the ground floor."
"Within two minutes there was fire in the entire factory," said worker Liaqat Hussain, 29, from his hospital bed where he was being treated for burns all over his body. "The gate was closed. There was no access to get out, we were trapped inside."
Supplied international firms?
Ali Ahmad, 33, who owns a Karachi firm called Nizam Textiles, which does not own or operate either of the affected factories, said the Karachi factory was owned by two brothers. One was out of the country and the other was missing, he said.
"The word in the industry is that he has gone AWOL, which is, frankly, a natural reaction to the way the cops and media are investigating this," he told NBC News.
Ahmad said the factory likely supplied the international market.
"If these factory owners had international clients, that means they had to worry about social compliance, which is a trip or two per year from the compliance and standards guys and other auditors who report to their foreign buyers," he said. "If the social compliance checks had been failed by the factory owners, and they were still producing for foreign buyers, then this is both a local and an international crime. It's also an ethical problem for international buyers."
He said it was difficult being an entrepreneur in Pakistan.
"You have strikes, load shedding [power outages], local mafias charging you turf protection money -- you name it," Ahmad said. "Plus you have ruthless buyers sitting in the U.S. who don't care what you do, as long as you do it on time ... we take a hit every time we're late. That means lost margins. That means we do what we need to do to make our orders, fast. This factory owner may have been working extra shifts just for that purpose."
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On Wednesday, a provincial minister ordered an inspection of all factories and industrial plants in Sindh province within 48 hours. Karachi, home to 18 million people, is the capital of Sindh.
A preliminary provincial government report on the Lahore fire concluded that the closure of the emergency exits led to the deaths and labor and safety regulations were not applied, government sources said.
Asif Hassan / AFP - Getty Images
Pakistani firefighters work to extinguish a sudden fire after it trapped dozens of workers in a factory in Lahore on Tuesday.
At a Karachi hospital, about 30 bodies burned beyond recognition were lined up at a morgue.
"There is no space left here. It's full," said ambulance worker Wasif Ali. "They keep coming."
Senior Superintendent of Police Amir Farooqi told Reuters that police were raiding buildings in different parts of Karachi to search for the factory owners.
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Farooqi said 35 people were injured in the garment factory fire and bodies were still being recovered from the facility, which employed about 450 people.
The latest death toll in Karachi was 236, said police chief Iqbal Mahmood.
Muhammed Muheisen / AP
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Smoke was still rising from the factory as rescue workers pulled out charred corpses and covered them in white sheets. Relatives of workers stood in the street awaiting word of their fate. Several wept.
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The cause of the garment factory fire was not clear.
In Lahore, workers at the shoe factory suspected that the fire was caused by a problem with a generator.
"We saw our colleagues burning alive, in flames," said Shabdir Hussain, from his hospital bed. "We could do nothing. We saved our lives by jumping from the roof."
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Al-Jazeera reported that the factory had been built illegally in a residential part of Lahore.
Successive governments have been unable to provide a reliable power supply so factories have to have their own generators, powered by diesel or petrol, if they want to avoid regular, lengthy power cuts.
NBC News’ Waj Khan in Islamabad and Reuters contributed to this report.
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My condolences to those lost and their families.
Condolences that wouldn't have to be issued if business owners, particularly garment owners, had any awareness of the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire in New York City on March 25, 1911. One hundred and forty-six garment workers died because of locked doors--the bosses wanted to protect their merchandise more than their employers.
"The fire caused the deaths of 146 garment workers, who died from the fire, smoke inhalation, or falling to their deaths. Most of the victims were recent Jewish and Italian immigrant women aged sixteen to twenty-three; the oldest victim was 48, the youngest was 11 year old Mary Goldstein. Because the managers had locked the doors to the stairwells and exits – a common practice at the time to prevent pilferage and unauthorized breaks – many of the workers who could not escape the burning building jumped from the eighth, ninth, and tenth floors to the streets below. The fire led to legislation requiring improved factory safety standards and helped spur the growth of the International Ladies' Garment Workers' Union, which fought for better working conditions for sweatshop workers."
Apparently the world couldn't go more than 101 years without an almost carbon-copy repeat going on in another part of the world. And complain about unions all you want, but human history has proven that employers, when left to their own devices, are incapable of properly protecting their own workers even with existing laws in place.
Ultimately, of course, we are simply stupid. We never learn.
The death toll in the Karachi garment factory is 212 and climbing. 65 people who jumped from the 4-story building have broken bones (some serious). The shoe factory death toll is 25 (illegally operated). The sorrow over the loss of their breadwinners and the healing of broken bones people -sympathies,speedy recovery. The Karachi garment factory had no fire exits- extinguishers- blaze started suddenly and the workers packed like sardines in a can overcame with smoke inhalation,heat,no visibility-toxic fumes (their bodies charred)-people broke windows to escape the inferno. some workers went to a large room in basement where they all died of smoke inhalation. The shoe factory in Lahore was completely illegal- they were all locked in-no exits. These kind of factories are not limited to Pakistan- they are all over the SE Asia.
...and that's why we manufacture our stuff there....because this happened here, and we created (God forbid) regulations for the wealthy to whine about....problem is, there are a whole bunch of dummies who think we need to go back to that in this country.....
DB17: That's because unions are evil and serve no purpose, so of COURSE we should get rid of them all! Why, surely, with all our fine government laws in place to protect workers and all our fine OSHA programs and so on, any manufacturing employer would NEVER do anything to place a non-unionized worker in danger?
StandupJokeoff, I think you are a little confused about unions roles in improving working conditions in factories. You need to revisit the history books.
Have a little compassion, people! Regardless of the circumstances, human lives were lost. You think that just opens the door for callous criticism? Give the hatefulness a rest, and open your hearts a little bit.
My thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones. So sorry for your loss.
@ShakingMyHead61 Whoosh... Sarcasm is obviously lost on some people.
jbke - why should the asshats who ran this facility escape criticism, when their workers couldnt escape imminent death?
of course our condolences go out to the family and friends of all those lost, to the workers who survived but will no doubt be scarred for life by this horror...
but that sadness in our hearts doesn't erase the anger and frustration we harbor when - the smart ones amongst us - know for damn certain these realities happen because people put profits above human beings every single time.
and I will not refrain from criticizing anyone, or any party, that supports less regulation and demononizing of unions. no doubt unions are ran by people, and therefore they no doubt will be flawed, but their bottom line has always been the best of intentions - to protect the workers.
you dont throw the baby out with the bath water unless you dont really want the baby at all.
the foreign business people who utilized these locations will no doubt NOT be thinking about these poor people and their families, but rather "how does this affect me and my money" AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE ENTIRE PROBLEM.
The IED factory did not follow safety procedures. Too bad, Boom!
Vote your Elected Congress Rep out as they are worthless and approve millions in aid to this POS country.
Seriously?? The Muslims will blame this on the US if any of their product was shipped here and call for riots against us..
The police are searching for the owners, they should be looking for and seizing their bank accounts too compensate the families.
This is no "unusual incident"! This is what happens when AMERICAN CEO'S send AMERICAN jobs to third world country's make EVEN MORE PROFIT. These poor workers were probably locked in to insure their output matched what the "owners and their AMERICAN buyers demand. It would surprise me greatly to learn otherwise. The MANAGERS of these company's should be hanged from the nearest tree, the owners should have every penny confiscated along with all their wealth, THEY SHOULD BE PENNILESS AND DESTITUTE UNTIL THEY DIE. THIS IS WHY UNIONS WERE BUILT HERE, UNIONS ARE THE REASON OUR WORKERS LIVES ARE SAFE, UNIONS ARE THE REASON THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN HERE. Union basher's should be "allowed" to work in these "controlled factories", I would demand it if I could. If it were up to OUR corporate CEO's we all would be just like these poor DEAD workers.
Shaking ...DB is being sarcastic imo. Of course I could be wrong.
This is not the first time this sort of thing has happened over there. Few months ago didn't a similar event occur at a pharma manufacturing facility or something like that over there? Or was it drugs that did not have enough of the main med or were they making fake drugs? Anyway this sort of situation in Pakistan is not isolated it happens in other countries in that region too. It is all about cheap labour and profits.
Remember a few years back there was tainted milk products/baby formula in China, and even when addressed the same problem was found to continue. Think some of those factories were shut down and the owners are laboring in prison, if they were not executed. There was also that problem with the anti-freeze in toothpaste thing too, kids toys tainted with lead paint.... and the problems go on.
If some international companies are involved with these sweatshops/factories they should be held liable too imo. Perhaps then they will find that it is time to stop trying to pay workers 50cents or less per garment.
Isn't it odd that the items produced at these low prices are not cheap when they reach their final destination? Anyway to think the companies who made the orders are not aware of the conditions under which these workers labour would be...... These companies know what goes on imo.
It is all about profits over people or they would not have these orders filled in those countries with such lax labour laws. Why else would there be such a concerted and continuous push in the USA by many companies and including even some govenors etc of some States to get rid of unions and pushing ''right to work'' instead?
Can anyone remember the name of the corporation that bought Maytag, closed Maytag and their own factories here and moved their operations to Mexico or somewhere in South America?
Does anyone know what is now happening in Benton Harbour where Maytag used to be? Have they got their own governance back yet or are they still under the thumb of that Govenor appointed overseer? Do the citizens/residents there have access to their public park or is it still being developed as a very private multi use development where the residents of Benton Harbor will not be able to afford the housing units or the club fees?
Peace....
And history repeats itself over and over again... :(.
Tired... sadly sometimes it is not even history repeating itself...as it is ongoing and happens so frequently that it does not even have time to become history.
Rather it is more like another chapter in the same book, or adding another paragraph to the same chapter in the same old book or another installment in the ongoing miniseries.
Peace.....
Working conditions in Asia are extremely poor and if ONLY 125 are dead it is something. When we look around our plants here in the United States, we should be happy to work here!
When I see US workers... Labor Unions striking; it really ticks me off to see how ungrateful and selfish these people are!
My point exactly.
In the early 1900's there was a need for labor unions due to sweat-shops taking advantage of workers as labor laws couldn't keep up with the fast industrialization and immigrants helping to build industry were being worked similar to these people in this fire. But that simply would not work in some countries.
The Unions are the reason we don't have the conditions in other countries, you need a labor history lesson, you will see the USA was not a good place to work before they came to the rescue. Unions are not America's problem, the super rich who want to pay third world wages here in America are the problems of America.
Why pay third world wages here when we have the entire third world to buy from?
This is the dumbest post I've ever read...the lack of understanding in regards to the connection between labor unions and the fact that this type of thing no longer happens here is stunning....literally.....and I hate that adjective, but there is no other....
The reason why US workers, especially the patriotic ones who belong to labor unions, strike it's to keep un-American corporatists from forcking workers to toil in the same conditions in Asia.
What a brain dead comment! It's also completely self-contradictory. But then he/she is probably a republican and you have to be brain dead to be a modern republican.
What happened to all those Ike Eisenhowers and Barry Goldwaters who used to be republicans? Where are they when we need them? What happened to responsible conservatism?
Unions are part of the reason many companies moved to other countries..?
Costing Americans many jobs...
DB17, I totally agreed. It is so sad to see just how dumb and uneducated people in this country are. Some of this stuff they should have learned in grade school. Can't read anymore of this nonsense.
Notice, there is nothing being said about who owns the buildings or the names of the companies who these products are being made for. I'll bet we could find the products sitting on the shelves of some very expensive stores.
Nearly 100 garment worker deaths / 50 fires per year in Bangladesh. We only read about the large fires, example -
southasiantribune.com/bdesh-factory-fire-police-killings-fuel-discontent-among-garment-workers/
gordo - yeah if only americans would work for $2/day we could compete with those foreign workers.
that, and if only americans didnt need health insurance...
union or not, those are the reasons our jobs went overseas...end of story.
how you gonna fix that, because you cant blame THAT on unions.
even Alan Greenspan gave the game plan away when he acknowledged that these jobs arent coming back until american workers are willing to "compete" with foreign wages.
how much desperation do you think it will take for Americans to be grateful for horrid working conditions and $2/day?
who do you think is itching for americans to be that desperate...unions and democrats, or republicans and their rich business friends? it's a pretty easy conclusion to come to...
now which party wants to eliminate regulations, rules and enforcement for the safety of working people? which party wants to eliminate minimum wage? which party wants to reward the top and throw everyone else into the street if you can't pay up?
Both parties are working together to keep the population divided, it's a perfect plan for them and the populous majority buys into it.
As to the story at hand, my thoughts and condolences are with those that lost loved ones or have been injured in this tragedy.
If it were "equal" trade and not "free" trade our jobs would not be shipped over seas and Most of these sweat shops would shut down. Tax the crap out of stuff being imported and make it not "worth it" for American companies to profit from slave labor across the globe and exporting the merchandise back to America.
Right... because we should just expect our factories to catch fire and consider ourselves lucky if it doesn't happen? Silly me. I think not burning to death is something we have the right to expect when we go to work.
The unions have done their job here in the US. Obviously there is a great need for them in Pakistan. Let ship all the union bosses to India, Pakistan, and SE Asia for a little while(like forever) to fix the unsafe work conditions over there.
I also think that it is amazing that you guys always manage to drag politics into every discussion!!!
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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it - George Santayana. The environments in which cheap labor outsourcing thrives, invariably reside in countries with communism, a caste system, or other extremism, which perpetuates the cycle.
theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/asian-pacific-business/unrest-threatens-bangladeshs-19-billion-clothing-industry/article4528109/
Sad what conditions people will work in when they have no choice. The part about the owners not being concerned about the workers is true in many countries. I have seen it...and I decided I would never complain about my break being 10 minutes late, or petty workplace issues we call "Awful!" in the U.S.
Not long ago I bought a shirt at a national chain store that isn't that inexpensive...noticed my shirt was made in Pakistan! American based "Upscale" clothing store. The people who died in this fire may have made it.
Think I am going to toss it in the trash. And before the "Hey they chose to work their" crowds pipe up...that is correct. They most likely had no choice if they wanted to take food home to their kids.
Look at the trailer for "Schmatta: From Rags to Riches to Rags" on YouTube. Less than 5% of all garments in the U.S. are being made in the U.S.
Good luck finding any clothes or shoes or even fabric that isn't made in some sweat shop. Even if the item was "made in the U.S.A., it is likely its components were produced in a 3rd world country.
Wow. That sucks. Sorry for those who have been lost.
Both fires were most likely caused by faulty explosives they use to make their suicide bombs with.
Jonathan Reid you are a moron and a dumba**. People lost their lives and you have to joke about it. F ing idiot.
I was wondering when a troll was going to come into the discussion. Only 5 comments down... You know, you trolls make the comments not even worth reading anymore. Please pat yourselves on the back because I know that's what you were aiming for.
Guess there is no OSHA inspection plan at work there.
Well, apparently that's because all unions are greedy, evil entities... and other countries are smarter than the U.S. not to have industry-specific groups of people regulating laws and activities...
Hey, Standup: News flash - unions ARE greedy and evil in this day and age! Yeah, they were needed and came about because of working conditions at one time, but their time has passed as safety standards have taken on a life of their own and are self-sustainable. The only thing unions are for now is taking worker's money and giving it to the Democrats!
Said someone that obviously knows nothing about labor history, and doesn't understand why people apply for union jobs more than any other. Unions are for the worker and not the business, in essence the union is the workers, thus why people support their unions so fervently. maybe your life would not be so bad if you had the chance to belong to one.
You are absolutely right Janie. The Unions were at one time a very useful tool for bettering the workers life and work conditions. But now the union members are simply paying for the lavious lifestyle of the big cat union leaders. For those of you who argue this...maybe you'd better start reading current headlines and headlines of the last 8 years. I belong to a union and in these bad economic times it's unbelievable to me that the union leaders are wanting even more monies from the business owners. I would pull my dues, but being vested and near retirement I would be foolish to put my family at risk. But I am working from within to change how the union works. As a people this is the sort of thing we Americans must stand up for. What is right and not just blindly follow the pack because it's easier. First we were bullied by employers, now we are being bullied by union leaders.
After we started shipping jobs over seas, the working conditions is the US has been on the decline too. Just walk into any factories that we still have in the US today, and you will see all kinds of hidden dangers. These dangers may not be very obvious like locked up exit doors, but they can harm you just as well.
Here are a few examples: faulty electrical wiring that can catch fire any time, poorly maintain machinaries with inedequate gaurdings, poor or no safety procedures and training...
Pakistan SUCKS!
Any reason for the necessity for the author to mention that Pakistan is "nuclear armed" at the beginning of the article? Oh, that's right, while it has nothing to do with the story, it fits the author's............and NBC's liberal, anti-nuclear power agenda.
Oh, get over it. That's to illustrate the contrast--they have the money and technology for nuclear weapons but they do not, apparently, have the money and technology to put basic theft procedures in place that can save lives (security guards, cameras, etc.). No, it's better to lock the doors and have lousy conditions than to learn about fire extinguishers, fire lanes and so forth.
Oh, that's rich StandUpJerkOff. If you think that comment was to illustrate the contrast, you have a very active............and stupid...........imagination. Oh wait, maybe you're right. I just read another unrelated article regarding the Chicago teachers strike. It began with, "The Chicago teachers's strike, in nuclear-armed United States, enters it's third day.". I guess the author was illustrating the contrast of how the U.S. has the money for nuclear weapons, but they do not, apparently, have the money to pay teachers. I see your point now.
Tribuck all I can say after reading your post ,your an idiot
Mike: that's an insult to idiots. ;-)
Deal with it Mike. SUJO has beat you down repeatedly with simple logic and sound criticism.
I hope that Uncle Stupid doesn't get involved and volunteer to borrow more money from Japan and China and rebuild their infrastructure. It does sound like the type of thing our idiot leaders would do,.
A thoroughly disgusting comment on your part Biff. After all the millions that Pakistan pumped into the U.S. to help with the Katrina rescue and clean-up, you exhibit such ungratefulness.
Love the sarcasm, Tribuck.....
Do I see a fuse under that hat?
THIS IS A "NEWS" STORY ??????
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I CAN'T SCREAM,,,,, "WHO CARES"............ LOUD ENOUGH
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So does this mean clothes prices are going up ?
No compassion for itinerant, poverty stricken wage slaves? No concern for families who've lost loved ones? You're a cold hearted prick.
125??? It must have only been one room of the factory affected.
What a great story - Muslims dying a painful death. Made my day hope to read more just like it. I hope the fire started when one these dirty dogs was trying to warm up by the fire, and suddenly caught his dress on fire. That would be even funnier. No loss the world is a better place as it continues to cleanse itself of this disease called Islam
The real disease is hate-filled attitudes likes yours. To celebrate the horrible and painful death of poor people who's standard of living will never, ever come close to ours is a sign of evil and heartlessness. You should be ashamed. My greatest fear has nothing to do with Islam. It is the proliferation of hate and the rabid xenophobia of ignorant douchebags like you right here in my own country.
of course, it is a good thing that most people don't have the frame of mind of animals like you. poor people in the factory in pakistan probably have much bigger hearts than you.
Allahu Akbar...what can I say. It is gods will. Just a little sign from God. Isn't that what you Muslims say every time something bad happens to the US?
LOL Yep. Schadenfraude is never good but you're right, they throw that in our faces every time.
Guess thats what happens when workers complaints about safety can't be channeled through a Union. Wish I could say that problem was unique to Pakistan and the third world. Saddly the US had a similar fire with similar consequences in the early 1900's. When companies don't give a crap about working conditions and worker welfare there is only one solution. UNIONIZE AND STRIKE!!!!!
Hahahaahaha ya go over there and start a Union.....I will read about you in less than 24 hours. Headline "American comes to change us now American DEAD...."
Exactly, but they can come here to OUR country and demand all the change they want and they get it. It's a sad day.
yep Every day in America zoning laws get changed so that a Mosque can be built facing east. Prayer was always kept out of the work place EXCEPT for those who need to pray to Alha 3 times a day. God forbid I ask my boss for a half an hour to go to church everyday.
yup and that was when unions were needed and helped the worker....todays unions are money gouging bullies who just keep taking members money and giving it to the Dems.
The next time people bitch about federal safety regulations....remember this.
That was rather ignorat to say. Federal reg's not followed in Packastan ? Federal regulations are a U.S. thing there buddy not a world wide thing.
See here, let me explain. We have lots of federal regulations over here regarding building codes....fire sprinklers, etc etc. People bitch about all of the codes and regulations they have to follow. This is the reason why. Go back to your mother's basement now.
Rack, you are a real great thinker....wow....love the general baseless raandom staements....NOT!
I think you missed RackNStack's point - under Obama, under our present corrupt government, under a government that is doing everything to dismantle protective regulations, under our own government that is forcing americans back to sweatshop, slave labor - we american workers are next to die, trapped in a fire, because our human life is meaningless to the corporations that have enslaved us - WAKE you SHEEP - our GOVNERMENT IS THE ENEMY -
No, all of you ijits missed my point. My POINT is this....we have regulations in this country for a reason. It doesn't have anything to do with Bush, or Obama, or Romney, or any political figure. The people that complain that we have 'too many regulations and codes' when it comes to buildings would do well to remember that across the world people die every day because of dangerous working conditions; in buildings that are poorly designed and lacking safety measures, in mines that aren't strutted properly, etc.
A tragedy? Not really for the factory owner who will re-open another shop like this within a month or so in this ignorant socially backward PoS country
The guy thought it was the U.S. Embassy when he started the fire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is truly a horror story. The Pakistani government should be made to pay dearly for allowing such horendous safety conditions to exists at the building.
Have you ever been out of the country ?
Jean, are you high?
I fail to see what your questions have to do with the horrifiying deaths of now some 260 people who were obviously crammed into a woefully undersized building. You seem to be justifying it's ok for these people to have died in this manner. In any case, your above queries are nebulous, at best, and unworthy of further communication.
jean, welcome to "third-world" reality.
and the far right would return us to these conditions in the name of "competition".
And situations like this are exactly why we should be manufacturing ALL OF OUR OWN STUFF. It would create American jobs and restore the middle class. It would also elminiate the opportunity for shady operations overseas that lack in regulation and endanger lives. Everybody wins.
Oh ok that will fix it, Are you willing to pay $200 maybe $300 for a pair of Jeans. Your current car tires are about $800 to replace, If say Goodyear came back to Akron Ohio, You would be paying 3 times that. Everyone wants but nobody wants to pay. This is why our business is oversea's. I'll bet you didn't know this little fact. To have the MADE IN AMERICA brand on it it must be 70% built in the U.S. That means 30% of it can come from oversea's..
Dear God....What you seem not to grasp is that at one time when most of our products were made in the United States there was a lot of competition for your business, which kept the cost of that product down. Why would we be paying $200 to $300 for a pair of jeans now....let me sum it up in two words...union greed!!!
Only 261?
Only 159,999,750 to go. At this rate, it would take too long to get rid of them all. Let India finish the job!
Pakistan's corrupt and despised government is concerned about one thing and one thing only -- padding their bank accounts so they can continue to support terrorists. They may all decide to move to Detroit to live the "American dream" as soon as the Taliban takes over their capitol.
Backwards people doing backward things that get them killed. Add Islam to the mix and you have death and destruction. How is this a reach in intelligent thinking?
The same type of thing has happened in the United States, so don't act so high and mighty. It is a tragic event, people lost loved ones, and you should have a little more compassion.