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Subscribe to RSSThe deaths of four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador, are a grim reminder of the dangers that lurk in Libya. NBC's Steve Handelsman reports.
NBC News compiled this reconstruction of the assault on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, after a briefing from senior U.S. officials, who asked not to be identified and cautioned that it was imprecise because it was based on preliminary field reports:
10 p.m. Tuesday (4 p.m. ET): The compound, a temporary facility with a nearby annex, begins taking fire.
10:15-10:45 p.m.: The attackers enter the compound and begin firing into the main building, setting it on fire. Mission security and Libyan guards respond. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and a regional security officer are the only people in the main building at the time. At some point, they become separated because of the heavy smoke. The security officer makes it out safely.
US won't rule out Islamist link in killing of US ambassador to Libya
The security officer and other security personnel return to the burning building to rescue Stevens and Smith. Smith is already dead, and the rescuers pull his body from the building. They can't find Stevens before they are driven from the building by the fire and smoke.
10:45 p.m.: U.S. security personnel try to take back the main building, but they come under heavy fire and return to the mission annex, where 25 to 30 people are holed up.
11:20 p.m.: U.S. and Libyan security personnel again try to take back the main building, this time successfully. They evacuate the rest of the personnel.
Tuesday night: Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is briefed.
12 midnight: The mission annex comes under fire, which continues for about two hours. Two Americans are killed, and two others are wounded.
3 a.m. Wednesday (9 p.m. ET Tuesday): The fighting is over, and U.S. and Libyan security forces regain control of the compound.
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Aftermath: The body of Stevens, who was taken to a Benghazi hospital at an unknown time, is returned to U.S. personnel at the Benghazi airport. A plane arrives from Tripoli to evacuate all personnel back to the capital, including the three wounded and the remains of the four people who were killed. All diplomatic posts are ordered to review their security.
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This was an American Consulate!! This is considered American soil!! Why was it not secured??????
...Obama FAILED the American people!!
What these people did was far worse then what happens in movies . . Get the point !
Shame Shame Shame :(
HopeisGone
This was an American Consulate!! This is considered American soil!! Why was it not secured??????
...Obama FAILED the American people!!
Soooooo... then because the attacks on 9/11 are to be considered on American soil, and should have been protected... you are openly admitting that Bush FAILED the American people!! Right?
Good advice for Obama too.
The problem is that there are just too many armed lunatics left over from the revolution in Libya. I don't think the Libyan government did a good enough job of disarming the rebels, although they tried. It's almost as bad as here in the U.S.
Interesting thing about this factoid: 10:15-10:45 p.m.: The attackers enter the compound and begin firing into the main building, setting it on fire. Mission security and Libyan guards respond.
According to a tweet by an employee the "guards" were standing around taking pictures. That employee later died.
This was a coordinated attack that was planned ahead of time and used the cover of protest to be carried out. By now no one should be surprised that members of countries all over the middle east and northern Africa have had plenty of years of training in waging guerrilla style warfare in urban environments. The GOP blowhards here that have likely never served a day in the military or stepped foot into hostile territory should contemplate these unfortunate consequences when deciding to wage war with a group you are culturally misinformed about, in a territory with a history that you willingly ignore. Typical Republican move to try and capitalize on the spilled blood of American soldiers and patriots, but never spill any blood themselves. GOP is a bunch of loud cowards!
The Embassy should have been heavily guarded as it was the anniversary of 9/11
Now where was obama? He is the one that is supposed to be taking care of our
military.. He is a weak leader, he does nothing but bow down and apologize...
If the movie was intended to provoke violence among Muslims and the Violence caused the Death of a US ambassador then should not the people who created the movie be held responsible. The Hard part would be proving intent but I think it could be done there intent was to provoke a response and it did cause the death of a US Ambassador then the makers of the movie are as guilty of the Death as those who did it.
Pathetic. Go read the US Congressional 9/11 Committees Investigations, Findings and Recommendations. President Clinton's Gutting of the US Intelligence Agencies, and the Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces (RIF) of the US Military. Former President Clinton's "I'm so sorry".
In 2012 New York City put back the US Military Anti Aircraft Missile Capabilty that was previously dismantled by President Clinton.
For an American embassy in a hot zone, this was incredibly slack security. A Boy Scout Troop could have overrun and killed them. And the blame for this goes straight back to Bill Clinton's trashy surgically-enhanced-till-she-looks-like-an-alien wife. I can't blame this on Obama. Hillary was forced on him, and he is so far inside his bubble he does not even know where Libya is.
david
Do you have a reference for that? Or are you just pulling it out of you a@s like the rest of your comments?
Unjustified murder. These are not the people who insulted their prophet. And if their prophet spoke the word of God he would not condone the murder of innocent people. Oh, I forgot who I was referring to. Murderers who follow the word of a murderer, liar, child molester, thief and so on.
jean
I guess he was at the same place bush was. When the yemen embassy was attacked for the 4th time in 2008 and killed 16 people.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2008/09/17/yemen-blast.html
bush was the one that is supposed to be taking care of our
military.. He is a weak leader, he does nothing but bow down and kiss world leaders
Hopeisgone said:
Wow. So by your logic Bush and the Republicans had an ABSOLUTE fail on 911. True Americans band together when we are attacked.
The only thing that's fail is your comment.
It's supposed to be COUNTRY FIRST, not POLITICAL PARTY FIRST.
If the creater of that movie should be held responsible,that IRITATING WACKO SARAH PALIN should be held responsible for THE SHOOTING of the congresswoman GABRIAL and the KILLING of those innocent people including a young girl, because that BITCH put a BULLSEYE on a photo of GABRIAL and shortly after,that LOWLIFE SCUMBAG SHOT her and those other people!! That BITCH PALIN should be in PRISON!! Hey McCAIN, your an A$$HOE for DIGGING UP THAT CRAZY PALIN!!
Get off your dead lazy arse and go look for yourself as stated by the NYC Mayor.
What has to do Sara Palin in this mambo jambo, you are even worst than those terrorist . Beside to be an ignorant because we all know who was the shooter your incendiary language is proper of a person insane. Since when , health mental institutions provide computer with internet to their patients.
I have no doubt that had Americans been taken hostage in Egypt or Libya Romney and Ryan would be standing in the wings cheering on the kidnappers while pretending to be outraged. These two POS's want to go to war.
You should be outraged as well, but you haven't got the brains to think for yourself. Just keep following the leader until you fall off the cliff. Oops, one more idiot gone.
The French influence in Libya shown through. The Libyan security people ran away when danger reared its ugly head. nuf said.
Its not a question of going to war fool, its not a question of who is in office ether dummy, its a question as old as mankind its a question of when. why are you people still dragging up Bush the last I remember is Obama is sitting in that chair if you want to blame old presidents for today'sproblems blame The peanut and Clinton, they were full of it. they caused allot of long term problems. lets get off this subject nothing will come of it in the near future Obama has already apologized to the Muslims, lets go see what all the socialist teachers in Chicago are up to. will Rahm ram them with? or will he ? do you think teachers deserve $9,000.00 a month + retirement and benefits, and not be subject to dismissal if found to be incompetent. when they have a 50% drop out rate?
Talk about apologizing Obama is getting so good at it that he can get the apology out before they hit us, now thats talent. maybe it was because he was warned that this will happen.
flnobody = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSkv_29Rncg
Proof you are the 92% of US Citizens that NEVER Served in the US Military.
President Obama as US Military Commander In Chief Ordered Reduction In Forces of 90,000 US Military Personnel to be thrown on Unemployment, meaning for those of us still in the US Military More Deployments and Longer Tours.
The only thing that is being pulled out of my a@s is your head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwqaOwU04sg
You want me to tell you the US Military (ARNG) Unit and the Weapons System.
Daniel Streibig - What could possibly account for the abysmally poor comprehension skills so many of you right wingers have? President Obama said the BRIDGES AND ROADS and all the supporting infra structure that makes it possible for everyone to conduct business was built by government, other people, etc. Are you really that unintelligent? How about the car or other means of transportation that carries you to work? The list is endless. Before you shoot of your mouth please read the entire speech.
If any eight years old read the entire quotation of President Obama then sat a comprehension examination and had not grasped that President Obama was NOT referring to the actual business they would definitely have failed very badly.
And to the Party of Illegal Wars, how many millions did Bush/Cheney/Rove kill with blood on their hands in just the 9/11 attacks in N.Y.???
Try listening to this news video from today.
Chronicling decision made in the months following 9/11
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/48991935#48991935
The from our government should be for every Libyan caught on video storming the building to be publically executed for they all played a part in these murders! Let them know that we take their actions seriously. To kill over some obscure video is just plain wacked! If a person is willing to kill over something so small, then they don't deserve to live!
sleuth23
Missed your military resume in your posting. I can assure you that there are plenty of GOP, just like Democrats and Independents, as well as some that don't list any party, that all have fought and shed blood for this country! Please inform us of your military background so we can analyze your expertise. Might do well to not paint with such a broad brush on topics. We or at least I await your answer John Wayne.
david
I looked on the net, didn't fine one picture of your a@s. It's hard to find your lies on the net.
More poof of you pulling something out of your a@s.
I'm a retired Msgt./USAF 72/92. What are you besides a big mouth lier?
"US", yea right. More proof of your lies.
Yes.
Nice UNDATED video. Could have been last year. It does not prove your statement.
Still a REMF flnobody
Go ask John-1281984 or the actual USAF Pilots what LRRP/Rangers* were doing at Plei Can at the very end of the Vietnam War.
*That is what permanently screwed me over out of wanting to be a REMF, later on after College ROTC (Vietnam GI Bill) "Peacetime" US Military till current. As permanently marked as a Joint Services US Military Asymmetric Warfare Officer, starting with being a Team Leader during the US Military Training Teams attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, then rotated to Operation Cyclone during the so called "Peacetime" US Military when you flnobody were sitting in the snack bar, going to the BX, Commissary, weekends off, etc. as a REMF.
Why were Libyan Nationals guarding our Consulate?????? Obama has blood on his hands for this one....
No more blood than Bush has on his hands for the 9/11 one... right?
More, less, are you keeping track of the score?
well, so much for foreign affairs. Obama has to go.
This is why he has been such a failure.
I can spam too. GovHater
Pathetic. Go read the US Congressional 9/11 Committees Investigations, Findings and Recommendations. President Clinton's Gutting of the US Intelligence Agencies, and the Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces (RIF) of the US Military. Former President Clinton's "I'm so sorry".
In 2012 New York City put back the US Military Anti Aircraft Missile Capabilty that was previously dismantled by President Clinton.
Daniel Streibig:
Based on history dating back to 1979...Any President that would deploy a United States Ambassador anywhere in the WORLD without a United States Marine Embassy contingency protective force should resign his post as Commander in Chief.
Funny, all these same idiots bashing Obama were all claiming Libya would be such a wonderful place if we remove Ghadafi and let the "rebels" take over the country.
HopeIsGone
Because it is the responsibility of th host government to provide security outside an embassy compound. All countries subscribe to this. Otherwise every country would be hosting huge military forces from all the other countries. Wouldn't that be great, 1000s of Russian military wandering the streets back in the 60s?
Apparently Libya did try to provide protection but they were outgunned. The Egyptians did nothing and they will pay. All western countries will be hesitant to place staff there.
These attacks were apparently well-planned and the rioters well-armed.
This should be easy to fix, just drop a few well placed bombs over there and all fixed. As a matter of fact they don't need to be well placed, just bomb the hell out of them.
MikeMoody said:
We already did that last year. Didn't work.
Libya already devastated from civil wars, there are barely any infrastructure left for you to drop on them. If it was Romney, he would start another war on Libya and then Iran next.
Who here like more wars?
This was an unfortunate incident and only goes to show that the U.S. should get it's butt out of the middle east and let them massacre each other. I am no great fan of Obama, but to blame this on him is pretty stupid. And it is nothing compared to what would happen if Romney is elected and gives Bibi the green light to bomb the crap out of Iran (that seems to be his message). The U.S. would be sucked into a bloodfest beyond belief. Do you want your grandsons to die in the desert? I sure as hell don't.
Libya does not deserve a US Embassy and I think we should sever all ties. Let the Libians figure out there future on their own. Let's take our Toys, our Boys and our Money and go home.
I will say what the apologizing liberal left wont. There is a war on that's bigger than Afghanistan. The Islamic sect followers are at war with the rest of the world. They are at war with US. Until we understand that and return the attention that they give us they will make every effort to take pot shots and kill American citizens who ARENT MUSLIMS! The Islam cult followers already in the US will codemn attacks and say that they are against Islam. This is a lie and lying is specified as a direct action and requirement in the cult. Lying to get a desired result is called Taqaya.
I agree 100%. The middle east has and will ALWAYS be very unstable.
this is correct. they all pay a tithe to supply resources to jihad. they make up stories to the contrary from time to time to redirect criticism. the fact is, these so called majority 'moderates" NEVER NEVER EVER condemn such acts, other than a sound snipit here or there to try to keep the truth sayers at bay.
if the majority of the "religion of peace" thought these acts were wrong, the so called minority would quit being funded by their silent majority.
the religion of evil wants us all dead.
MSN will only post what they want, they favor obama.. I just watched a film that showed them
dragging our Ambassador's body down the street...Killed him then did this...Where were the troops
from Lybia, they too are to make sure we are safe there...Pull everyone out of all Countries and
bring them home.. This is not right.. Obama will not protect our troops.
The only reason obama spoke this morning was because Mitt spoke.. He would have slept in as
usual.
We weren't suppose to have any "boys" on the ground. Where did you get your info.
Jean,
Could you please provide a link to this video clip, please ? Or are you just lying ? I'm not saying that you are lying, but please, give us the link.
Jean, I can't give the link, but it is true and oh so awful....I can only hope he was not somehow still living when this occured. I saw it, too.
PenRules,
You saw the video too ? Where did you see it ? Please, give us the link.
Because I think that Jean is just another Obama hater, judging from her/his comments.
OK, Jean and Pen, I understand. You saw the video, but you have no idea where you saw it...
Start looking here, not the Monitored and Censored US Communications in accordance with President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts:
http://www.aljazeera.net/portal
"اتحاد العلماء" يدعو للتحرك ضد الفيلم
oops sorry forgot most of you are illiterate. I'll look for an Uncensored English link.
They removed the video hope your Farsi is as good as your Arabic:
Photo is here last on page:
کریستوفر استیون، سفیر آمریکا در لیبی در حال انتقال به بیمارستان
http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13910622000611
I don't know if I can find the arabic or farsi youtube video, have to reconfigure my keyboard first.
add to post#3.11.
Before someone says it, he was alive when they held him up to take pictures. Before what happened in the video (traumatic internal injuries do not happen from "smoke inhalation").
david,
Thanks for cutting down on internet pontification. Anyway, where is the link ?
Again, where is the link ?
Internet illiterate ? Are you ?
By the way, Al Jazeera is better than, for example, CNN, way better...
You try and type arabic on an english keyboard. And tell me I'm internet illiterate. And switching between american english, arabic, and farsi, including all the slang.
They chopped their video to afterwards only, will look for another:
ÙجÙ٠ب٠ساخت٠اÙÙØ§Û Ø¯ÛÙ¾Ù٠اتÛÚ© آ٠رÛکا در ٠صر Ù
http://persian.euronews.com/2012/09/12/gunmen-attack-us-consulate-in-benghazi-over-blasphemous-film
(comment: small group of people, 00:41, NOT).
@Jean-982597
Does this mean we also pull troop out of Israel?
From little of what known from Romney, he intends to attack Iran in support of Israel, so your wish of stay out of Middle East is not bold so well of what Romney plans to do.
Good morning david (and Jean, and Pen),
I checked all your links, and I couldn't find your video.
From what I know, the ambassador died at a hospital, the Behghazi Medical Centre. So what happened next ? His body was taken from the hospital and dragged down the street ? That's what happened, according to Jean.
Well, from what I know, Mr Stevens had been at the point of death when he was brought in by several friendly Libyans (who, by the way, didn't know he was the ambassador). He died at the hospital, and later his body was retrieved by a team of Marines sent from the US Embassy in Tripoli as reinforcements.
To sum up, Jean, your film doesn't exist, except in your imagination...
PeterB-778417,
I will explain part of this. You MUST use almost Illegal means to get around the US Monitoring and Censorship of All US Communications, so that your IP Address does not identify you as being physically located in the US (Do you know how that is done). If you do not do it this way, you will not find anything (I already tried).
Once you do that, then you can use many different Search Engines, including Google (not really the smartest way but will work, afterwards you MUST delete all tracks within the operating system). This will allow you to find the Full Video from start (shows the planners, the attack, the attackers standing around looking at what they did (shown at US), the looting, the dragging of the US Ambassador out of the safe room, the rape, the beatings (punched, kicking, hit with rifle butts, etc.), dragging thru the streets, being held up for pictures to be taken (head wounds from the beatings), the attackers bragging, unarmed people start walking around (some looting), and finally the hospital) to finish. We know that most of the Islamic Jihadists video everything now a days, for publicity for their Islamic Jihadist Organization (money, donations, support), and as their internal Training Videos (especially in nations that the people don't know their own written language).
These embassies have shockingly scant security forces. A dozen vagrants with AK47's (presumably) can some in and overtake a piece of US government property?
I remember the same story with the US Embassy in Beirut in the 80's. Sending 50-100 Marines now? How about having that many there at all times? Especially in countries like Libya. Sheesh.
iceveiled you better read the article(s) again:
Heavy fire, RPG's where used... These were not "vagrants". There was a simultaneous attack in Cairo as well. A Blind man (except Pres. Obama) could see this was a purposful, planned attack timed with the aniversary of 9/11. Also Romney has this one right. Did you read the INITIAL OFFICIAL response to the "attack"?: Here let me help.
This was the response that was RELAYED by the White House.. How can you "disavow" when you are the ones that sent it?... furthermore... Why should a President Elect.. "wait" for the President to get his act together... He only at the Security breifings 1/2 the time anyway:
Sorry folks... This was a Fumble on Pres Obama's watch and his OVERTRUSTING of people who are clearly not our allies. As a matter of fact He dissed our real allies:
So They denied and confirmed in the same article... really.
Can't trust nothing comming out of the White House.. and Romney should go ahead and start acting Presidential now.. Because all the Libs agree:... IT Bush's Fault, Obama inherited it, and The Republicans are "blocking" every thing.... Obama is NOT in charge.
Bravo Flame
the statement issued by the embassy in Egypt was issued before any attack on either of the 2 locations.
get the facts straight before running your mouth, just like Romney should have done. he ran his mouth with out having the facts.
This was a statement issued by the embassy in Egypt, that had protester's already from the video, and they sitting in a potential tinder box, chose not to fan the flames.
Read the timeline, see that what happened in Libya was a terrorist attack. Not protester's.
Once again Romney does fire first then aim.
The people faces that was showed on the internet and the news that caring out this attack was very clear.lets wait and see how many of them will be brought to justice by the libyan goverment.
Flame, you are so correct.. Good post.. This was not a small group as Hillary said this morning. She made sure to say it was not the Libyan Government.. She and this administration, and obama are in bed with the muslim brotherhood and folks you better start realizing this...
Time to rid the Country of this administration with obama in the lead...
Flame77_7,
They are downplaying the actual size of the Worldwide Islamic Jihadists as funded by Islamic Laws Mandatory Islamic Tithes of Trillions USDs per year from 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide.
Perhaps if SOS Clinton read her own US Department of State Classified and Unclassified Documents, BEFORE Overthrowing a former US Ally "Dictator killing his own people (Islamic Jihadist Foreign Fighters)":
Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) the New Libyan Government, etc.
Right...fire first and then aim, as did BHO when he commented about stupid white cops during the flap in Cambridge, MA over the Louis Gates incident which led to the 'Beer Summit'.
Glad to see all the hands across the aisle when some crisis arises, small wonder our congress behaves the way it does. They're doing an impeccable job of emulating their constituents.
At what point were the pictures taken of the late Ambassador's body being carried in the streets? Was that his transport to the hospital, or was it parading?
They were not carrying his body, he dead body was drug though the streets... Does Pearle ring a bell?
It's shameful for Mutt to take advantage of this before the blood even dried. On the anniversary of 9/11, it's even worse that he preferred dishonest accusations and flagrant libel instead of attempts to unite the nation. Does this kind of behavior befit a presidential candidate?
You, and Romney, need to stop adding politics into this tragic situation. At ALL overseas consulates, there are local national security forces that are the front line, then American security forces behind them. Then special security inside (where needed) to protect the people.
Bill
Most US Embassies have Security Contracts with a Local Guard Force (LGF from a Commercial Security Company with National Country citizens - in this case Libyan)), a Guard force Commander (GFC) and usually a Project Manager (civilian) sometimes local national, sometimes expatriot (expat).
The Contracts are usually 3 - 5 years in duration and is bid upon for that right to be awarded the contract and it usually has option years attached. Some LGFs are armed, usually sidearms/shotguns and some are unarmed positions. My guess is the LGF at Benghazi US Consulate was small in number and armed.
The RSO (Regional Security Officer - a US Diplomatic Officer similiar to a policeman for duty description but are listred as Special Agents in the Diplomatic Security Service, a division of Department of State.
On another note, politics should not be a part of this tragedy - let's fix it and then go about our business come 6 November!
where were all the marines? marines are the security for all of our embassies.
Bill is a idiot, the state department said they were sorry for the film before the riots, why is it the left wing blame a flim when islam murders at will, burns down churchs and nail christians to crosses and not a word from the left, you people are so stupid you call good evil and evil good. No wonder you back a islamic-in-chief from Kenya, too stupid to care about the Constiturtion as long as you can have your commie state.
Oh gawd, yet another Muslim/birther continues to wax idiotic!
You need to go to one of these Fundamentalist Islamic Nations and say Bill is god and see what happens.
Once again FACTS elude the deluded. This IS Political starting with President Obama's idealist academic no real experience March 2009 Iran Policy that triggered the misnomered "Arab Spring" fully backed overtly and covertly by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran.
Really, when I was a UN/UA (African Union) Observer, the Arabic Omani Muslims said, "See you made me kill them (innocent unarmed men, women, children) because you are here.......It's all your fault".
Do you know why the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia are the Majority; because they "Shoot First since the Dead do not complain". So while people attempt to negotiate ("Empty Words") the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia shoot them in the face, end of problem. Saw that so many times at many other Islamic Nations. Then to make sure all the people know who is really in control the drag the corpses thru the streets making as much noise as possible.
Hope is Gone: you are truely an A$$- So very typical of Republican idiotness,,,,,One could only Hope You were Gone,,,,,,Thinking of the Dead with prayers and my heart pains for the Families left behind to mourn. Peace even for You, H is G,,,,,,ZZAR
Razz the term you are looking for is an english word not ebonics. The term that you so aptly represent is idiocy. Thank you for your shining example.
Razz your a commie joke, except you won't think it is funny when you have to convert of die for allah.
It seems Romney not only sold his soul to his CPAC and tea baggers but his brain as well.
Soothe, at least he has one, more then I can say for you.
Obama and Clinton must take full responsibilities for these death. If Mubarak or Qaddafi are in charge, I doubt that any one can even throw a rock at the US consulate!!!
... then of course Bush and Cheney must take full responsibility for failing to protect the US against the 9/11 attacks and all of those deaths as well... right?
How many time are you going to mention Bush and 9/11? If you respect Obama, whatever, but don't make it seem like he's the good guy right now.
As many times as some idiot blindly blames Obama, and I'm not defending him, just pointing out baseless partisan hypocrisy. Maybe you should stop defending Bush by trying to pretend it never happened, or do you just have a problem with the truth like he does?
I can spam too. GovHater
Pathetic. Go read the US Congressional 9/11 Committees Investigations, Findings and Recommendations. President Clinton's Gutting of the US Intelligence Agencies, and the Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces (RIF) of the US Military. Former President Clinton's "I'm so sorry".
In 2012 New York City put back the US Military Anti Aircraft Missile Capabilty that was previously dismantled by President Clinton.
While there is a difference between a consulate and an embassy, any of them in the Dar al-Islam should be considered to be in war zones and provided adequate military security, if we continue to maintain them at all.
I'd give the Libyans 24 hours to find and hand over the perpetrators, and if that request is not complied with, sever diplomatic relations, and start drone strikes against suspected militant groups.
I agree with your response! I generally try not to get involved in post(s) but a lot of responses that I have read is kind of nauseating! Since when did an American life become so 'not important'? I can't believe the 'lack' of response in regards to this. When I heard that we apologized (I have not looked it up. Too busy working to pay my bills and probably several others through my 'tax' dollars) I was DISGUSTED! I remember a time in our great country where we had prayer in school, said the Pledge of Allegiance and was ALWAYS Proud to be an American! We had morals and Values and not too many things to fight over BUT if provoked... We Answered! We were United as a Country!!! Now, we have the 'left' that have this 'New' vision of Government dependence and teaching our children that our Country is not any better or any worse than any other Country and that we have to be 'respectful' to others' religions and beliefs at the COST of our own... sorry for the rant but I am too tired of election year already. I actually had a friend post on Face Book "Thank You Obama for my Free Birth Control!" So glad you are President... seriously, $9 of my tax money makes you this happy? Hell, I will throw in a $1 more just for you not too mention his name around me.
This should not go away; those responsible must be apprehended and brought into account. Hopefully the Libyan government handles this; if not, then we must.
V Nugent. You are a simpleton.or perhaps lower IQ than that.
might i remind the so-called leaders of this great country that we are as one and republicans vs democrats is unaccepable durung this time of tragedy.
Break ties with Libya!
Obozo will probably give them a hand out at tax payers expense, he famous for giving to his arab friends, just like the gas prices that goes to his brothers in islam.
We helped these people overthrow their legitimate government and this is how they pay us back. This is tragic for us an the people we lost there. It is just too bad that Hillary Clinton was not there so we could have given her to the Islamists and traded for the diplomats before they killed them. This really could have been a good and noble trade. Heck we could have thrown Bill also in the deal . Bill and Hillary are the two worst people ever unleashed on AMERICA other the Bin Laden.
Wouldn't it be nice if the mideastern countries would actually cooperate with the USA? Wouldn't it be nice if the majority in an Islamic country saw us not as imperialist oppressors, but as we see our ourselves...as their best hope for a better, more democratic life? That country- is Libya...and some people on here want us to start threatening them, geesh, damn bunch of chicken hawks. Mr. Stevens was a diplomat, which means he believed in the power of diplomacy to make a difference in this world. He also loved the mideast and it's people. Thank God for our President.
Rome thought the same thing
Your idealistic academic no real world experience has no place in the Real World Life or Death School of Hard Knocks. What next:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3MiD_U4CHQ
Why the F**K should they even want to be Allies of the US, the US has a Very Very Long History of Backstabbing, Abandoning, etc. US Allies.
Like I stated before: Your idealistic academic no real world experience has no place in the Real World Life or Death School of Hard Knocks.
Really, when I was a UN/UA (African Union) Observer, the Arabic Omani Muslims said, "See you made me kill them (innocent unarmed men, women, children) because you are here.......It's all your fault".
Do you know why the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia are the Majority; because they "Shoot First since the Dead do not complain". So while people attempt to negotiate ("Empty Words") the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia shoot them in the face, end of problem. Saw that so many times at many other Islamic Nations. Then to make sure all the people know who is really in control the drag the corpses thru the streets making as much noise as possible.
YOU DO THAT. Proof you know nothing:
a. President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (Plural US Laws), removal of US Citizens Constitutional Rights. Shown here during a Staged News Media Event, January 22, 2009, signing into US Laws his Patriot Acts, 04:38 minutes of 11:55 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE
b. To close a loop hole in President Obama's Patriot Acts, later President Obama signs into US Law, his NDAA 2012, US Military Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens without Trial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY
c. President Obama states his March 2009 Iran Policy. The US will not do anything against Iran without Negotiations First. The Ayatollahs of Iran that actually control EVERYTHING, tell President Obama to f**k off and die (almost literal translation from Farsi), "NO Empty Words" (Negotiations). The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran believes that President Obama is bargining from a position of weakness (translation "defeat"). The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran starts Overt and Covert Actions to Defeat the US and US Allies Worldwide.
d. SOS Clinton's US Department of State is provided with Intelligence from the US Intelligence Agencies after the Information was verified and confirmed independently by US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces. Ignored or not read.
e. Deals between the Fundamentalist Islamic Brotherhood and the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran are made to Overthrow US Ally President Mubarak.
f. Deals are made between the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group and many Islamic Jihadist Groups are made with the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran to kill former US Ally President Gaddaffi the Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers (Death Penalty High Treason to Islam). The Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations demands President Gaddaffi be Overthrow for Killing his own people (Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadist Foreign Fighters).
g. President Obama violates US Law that limits his Presidential War Powers, 1973 War Powers Resolution (Act) because he does this US Congress did not have time to create a US Law with US Congressional Appropriations to cover his arse like they did with President Clinton, H.R. 4655 and President Bush, 2002 Iraqi War Resolution. President Obama uses not budgeted for Discretionary Spending.
h. Lots of etc..
Pam, are you for real? Do you understand a whole sentence when you read it? Does anyone reading these comments believe these mideast countries want democracy? They would be bored to death if they weren't killing each other on a daily basis. It's been a way of life for them for hundreds of years and they don't want change. I feel for the women and children, they don't get to choose. We need to strengthen our own country and fix the economy. We've not recovered from 9/11 and let the blame fall where it may.
Might i remind both political parties we are as one in time of tragedy. I ask both to atleast represent the USA accordingly ??
And how do we do that Slowhand1? Beg forgiveness because they believe Mohammad was insulted, bow at the altar of allah as obozo has done? Give me a break, they are wild men and always will be and they want to force thier religion on the world, wake up.
Good point and exactly.
Its very sad what happened in Libya , but do we need to remind Hillary , McCain , Lieberman , Graham and Mr. Obama , that these thugs are the same thugs they are arming in Syria to over throw the Assad regime , the same thugs that killing the Christians in Syria and Iraq , and they are backed by the same terrorists countries , their Friends the Saudis and Qataris , we installed thugs as a government in Libya , at least the ass hole Qaddafi was tamed and we were helping him with his enemies just few months before NATO decided that they need to steal his wealth just like they do in all these small and weak countries . God protect our troops from harm and protect them from our no good politicians , the ones that have other countries interests in their hearts not the interests of the American people .
my turn-5304605,
NOT US Ally Saudi Arabia for so many reasons. The others yes.
example: Fundamentalist Islamic (Shia) Osama Bin Laden formed his Fundamentalist Islamic Anti Saudi (Sunni) Government International Franchise of Al Quada. While living with his Rich Relatives at Saudi Arabia.
After the 1993 First World Trade Center Bombing the US Ally Saudi Arabia offered President Clinton extradition of OBL. President Clinton refused and even refused to provide US Ally Saudi Arabia the US Evidence of OBL's involvement with the 1993 First World Trade Center Bombing. So without sufficient evidence the US Ally Saudi Arabia had to let OBL go.
The US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG shadowed OBL Worldwide requesting President Clinton's Authorization to terminate OBL (so that they could go home), President Clinton refused citing the US No Assassination Policy (Later Amended by President Bush, 2006, Harvard International Review Article, "US No Assassination Policy On the Offensive"
David 475776, sorry dude, but the more you post the more you are starting to sound like Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory. I really used to respect most of the things you talked about, but more and more you are seeming to become eccentric to the point of lunacy. You cannot be and are not as omniscient as you claim to be. I begin to question the legitimacy of your special operational duties, as most operators wouldn't be so apt to bump their gums as frequently as you choose to do. Not to say you are breaching barriers of classified information, but....could you anyway???
We all have access to google and bing to find the same facts you seem to dig up. Additionally, as I am sure your superior intellect will tell you (as with most of the posting persons here), this is all left up to interpretation. The term fart and squeek can mean the same thing to two different people.
The majority of folks that seem to feel the need to interject his or her opinion (as is their right per the first amendment in its truest form) tend to aim aggression toward one chief executive over another for the sake of "political values". This in all rights and means makes less sense than a penis flavored lollipop. The United States of America is not a democracy, it is a republic. Meaning that if we have a real issue with something that's going on in the world, we have to go through our elected representatives (and senators). The Chief Executive has LIMITED powers at his or her control. In reference to the political zealots on this site, and how they tend to post, from a clinical term it is known as unspecified mental retardation ICD-9 319.
I apologize for the tangent. But David, regardless of your asymmetrical warfare experience or lack thereof, you are not in the Oval Office or meeting of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. You have every right to express your opinions, but please stop telling us what they are doing due to your extensive knowledge of "how things work".
No more BS from eather side. To make this a political blamegame. Or to continue with apoligentics, before the spilled blood of our people is even cleaned off the walls is an utterly discusting of both parties. WHEN is one of our leaders going to draw a red-line, to let these Islamist know we are not going to put up with this kind of crap anymore. No matter where they live.
Its all politics now. People in power couldn't care less about the rest of us. They politicize everything and nothing is sacred anymore.
You whining lib biatches complaining that Romney couldn't wait for the blood to dry? How about OBL? Sure as he!! didn't take the idiot in chief to jump all over that. If you libs were guaranteed jobs that paid 75,000/year you would still be screaming about it. Pathetic a$$e$
Jay, mom says you have to get off the computer and do your spelling and grammar homework NOW or else nobody will ever take your rantings seriously!
And you conservatards jump on every opportunity to throw the word lib around even though you have no idea what it even means.
let's see,Obama promised he was not going to campaign on 9/11- liar. flat out released a video praising the Arab spring movement. think this old boy would like to have a Arab spring right here in America,what we need here in the U.S is a Obama fall.
Thank You loslo!
A Muslim would never attack an unarmed and innocent person without a reason. Once again the reason is killing innocents is easy and fun.
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