Isn't the marines guarding the embassy? Let them kill all those bastards.

Build an Empire and they will come.

Over a film..a FILM...AN EFFING FILM! People are brutally murdered! Way to strap on your manhood, maniacs! So, a cartoon like Southpark can make fun of, or poke fun at, or even insult our Jesus Christ, but the minute their god is even mentioned wrong, or whispered wrong, they feel justified in blowing up a city block! I am so over this $#!T

THIS is a good example of WHY extremist are NOT ready nor will ever be ready to participate in the worlds commerce as adults. They simply cannot understand freedom of expression in any form. Taking a movie so personal is beyond civilized society's comprehension. ;]

Furthermore to actively make the U.S. your enemy over a film one has not seen is more than asinine it is ignorance. Let us also look at those Americans complicit in fueling such animosity towards are country [you know whom it is in which I speak]. To those in question you act at your own degree.

Cheers

Cheers

My GOOD friend B. If such extremism is NOT ready to act as friends or in friendly coinciding terms that let us SHOW them how UN friendly we can really become ;]

Cheers

Cheers!

If anyone has seen the 13-minute trailer on Youtube, he will know how absolutely hokey, ridiculous and amateurish it is. A reporter aptly described the clip as a candidate for Mystery Science Theater. How anyone could become enraged by this hokey trailer is beyond my comprehension. It was so bad that it was actually hilarious a few times. It's almost unbelievable that anyone would waste time getting angry over it.

Idiot 99.9% clueless PERIOD

the u.s. needs to get the hell out of the middle east. CUT OFF ALL FOREIGN AID, bring all our military home, protect our boards and tell the rest of the world you're on you own!!!!

SEND MASS EMAILS TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVE....'STOP ALL FOREIGN AID', remind your representative that it is an election year.

@ Spot- I don't condone Terry Jones in anyway BUT ......He isn't responsible for the actions of these people- they are. Many Americans are outraged at the storming of our embassies. As of yet however, these Americans have not gathered in large angry groups to destroy and terrorize the embassies of these offending nations, and they won't.

My understanding is the Embassy is "secured" by Yemeni resources and the US Marines are stationed at the Sheraton Hotel that overlooks the Embassy.

http://www.yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=4955

SHHHHH - hear that? Yep, that's flip flopping you hear - same people who cheered Saddam going down are now up in arms...who would have thunk it?

I think it is time to show the middle east our M.O.A.B.

ALL of this over a movie??? I guess it just goes to show how uneducated and insane those idiots are.

G-Dog-787120

I wish Muslim leaders would clearly express the fact that committing violence simply because you feel offended is wrong, and that Muslims should treat religious insults from 'infidels' as being totally meaningless.

Why would they feel the need to "clearly express" something they don't believe?

This wasn't about the film. The film was used as an excuse to give them an opportunity to vent some of that anti-American anger.They percieve the US as butting its nose into the affairs of Muslim nations where ought not to. This is what makes the US hated. It is not to do with our lifestyle. I doubt the average middle eastern Muslim probably doesn't care even about our close ties to Israel.

Obama and Bush don't/didn't run this country - where have you all been? You people who support wars and want reasons to go to war still haven't figured out who plants the seeds in your brains?

You give Presidents way to much credit for controlling situations - the next puppet after Obama (be that in 1 or 5 years) won't be one bit different.

Actually Reagan did make compromises and deals once he became president. That's how he got into the Iran/contragate mess. What made Reagan great though was that he realized that you can't always talk tough in the open; sometimes you have to make backroom deals to get the job done(although legally the contragate deal went too far). However, he tried everything he could to advance his policies. It's a lot easier to make strong statements when you're not in office, but when you become President you have to be diplomatic. Unfortuantely as long as we try to be the leader of the free world, we'll be dealing with situations like this. Anybody who watches the offending video can see that it is an amateurish and cartoonish attempt to denigrate a religion. People who are attacking our embassies are angry haters who were just looking for an excuse to attack us. It's sad that a small band of lunatics can make entire nations look so bad, but we must not forget that the majority of people in this world, regardless of race, nationality, religion, are not savage murderers.

This could be al qaeda or a wanna-be al qaeda striving for relevance. They could be trying to influence our elections, although it's not clear which side they're trying to help. Given the effectiveness of the drones, you would think they're trying to help Obama, but Romney doesn't seem to accept help easily.

More the case of unchecked procreation in these 2nd and 3rd world Muslim countries since the end of WWII. All it has done is produce two generations now of illiterate, unemployed fanatic religious males who have nothing else to do in life but cause trouble and take it out on the rest of the world, especially civilized nations - who send them billions in financial aid and buy their damned oil. The best way for industrialized countries to counter this is to reduce oil consumption that funds the Saudi and Al Qaeda-Taliban human garbage. That and to put a lot of birth control in their water systems.

Brian-422798

ALL of this over a movie??? I guess it just goes to show how uneducated and insane those idiots are.

Ever hear of Rovian politics? Same principle.

Isn't this just great. Our embassies have been attacked. We have had citizens killed and an internationally recognized piece of soverign US territiory has been defaced. And what do I see pasted all over the blogosphere? Trolls using this to push their agenda for either party. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!! To use their deaths as an attempt to persuade people your candidate is the right one to elect makes you scum of the Earth in my book. If any of you political pinheads had any heart(or brains), you would offer condolences to their families for their loss, as I offer those condolences now. They paid the ultimate price for their devotion to our country. They are heroes and we will miss them. To use this to further your political agenda makes you worse than those who killed them IMHO. At least the militants seem to be unified in their contempt of western laws. It is really a shame that Americans have become so desensitized as to forget the ones who suffered to try to score political points. You people are so low, you need a firehouse ladder truck to scratch a snake's stomach.

These people are out of thier f-n minds - They're seriously f-t up in the head.

We need to really start increasing the safe harvesting, production and distribution of our own natural energy here in the USA, rather than paying for fuel from countries where they hate us. Let’s keep that money and those jobs here in the US.

Drilling here at home might not be the whole answer, but it's certainly a good place to start.

Obama killed bin laden... Hmmm I thought the US seals did it... Could have sworn obama was in a nice room with about 6 other people just watching it...

What type of gun did obama use?

That's the double standard.

Ya'll want to blame the potus for the actions of enraged fundamentalists over an offensive movie made by a zionist; yet won't give any credit to the potus for the bin Laden raid.

I think this film is being used as a catalyst to get a good turnout, but I have a hunch that the attacks were planned for some time.

I support the filmmaker's right to create bigoted movies; but I do not support what he said, nor do I support the irresponsible choice he made. The fact that innocent people are dead over the petty religious disputes of bigoted fundamentalists stands as a testament to the futility of religious hatred. The attackers need to be hunted down and brought to justice, and the filmmaker should take this as a moment to reflect on his prejudice. There is no excuse for violence over a stupid movie, but a rational person would recognize when they are not dealing with rational people.

The Libyan gov't as well as the majority of Libyans have come out and said that although they think the US gov't "should have done something" about the movie; that they do not condone the violent reaction to it.

This indicates that the Libyan people may not really understand the concept of Free Speech in the United States. It does not make them stupid. In fact, it is kind of sad. It should be stressed now more than ever that religious tolerance goes both ways, and that with liberty comes the responsibility of every citizen to have thick skin.



Sorry this ruins your candy apple dream world Democraps - but it iis THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol *puts on tinfoil hat* Go get 'em! The Nazis in my soapdish tell me the same thing, soon they plan to create a tiny military base with tiny missiles and attack the gremlins on my razor.

This is what happens when you show weakness to our enemies in the ME

It is? So- by your logic... Reagan must have apologized A LOT before 200 plus Marines without ammunition were killed on his watch in Lebanon. Oh, and Bush.. man, how much apologizing he must have done before 9/11? Thousands died there.

Derp.



June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.
February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.

February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.

December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.

September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.

January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.

July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.

March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls' school instead.

September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.

Why would they feel the need to "clearly express" something they don't believe?

I just saw Zbigniew Brzezinski on Morning Joe making the case for restricting speech that is hateful and inflammatory to Muslims. I have the same contempt for this Jones fellow as I do for the Westboro types, but we don't censor speech just because some will find it offensive. If we allow censorship on that basis, then all freedom of speech is doomed, for any group could claim they were 'offended to violence' by anything and everything.

Somebody needs to come up with a Muslim equivalent to "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me", an easy lesson which must be learned throughout the Muslim world one way or another if we are to continue to have personal interaction. If they prefer isolation, that's fine with me.

Lala Land: Where groundless speculation and logic are one and the same.

Jews and Christians till this day have to put up with their prophets and gods being made fun of. I can't watch an episode of Family Guy without them poking fun at Jesus or Jews. Yet they are afraid to add the prophet Muhamad to the list. Because everybody is scared of the Muslims.

Comprehension is 9/10th the law.

Yet they are afraid to add the prophet Muhamad to the list. Because everybody is scared of the Muslims.

It's unfortunate, and stupid.

But as a pragmatist - what might be the solution?

Personally, I take the longview of cultural influence. And I was hopeful that a truly democratic process, even in a majority Islamic country that votes for theocratic regimes; that Western concepts such as secularism would slowly take root.

That may have been putting the cart before the horse, though. Because here in the US we were founded upon Enlightenment principles by secularists and Deists who strongly believed in the separation of Church and State as a necessity.... and our Founders often had to argue their point to the people; and stand fast upon it. But in these recently liberated countries what you see is a foundation being built on theocratic principle, which is antithema to Freedom of Expression and Freedom of Religion.



@SpcTorres - You NAILED it!

Worth showing again!

SpcTorres -

Jews and Christians till this day have to put up with their prophets and gods being made fun of. I can't watch an episode of Family Guy without them poking fun at Jesus or Jews. Yet they are afraid to add the prophet Muhamad to the list. Because everybody is scared of the Muslims.

Muslims need to learn to deal with other people's right to express the truth.

If they don't like being exposed in films and books then they need to change their behavior. Whether they like it or not, the rest of the world sees the reality of their evil and most of us are not afraid to expose it.

Remember what they said when we invaded Iraq - that we would create more terrorists - welcome to a world of our own making.

9-11, 2001

Welcome to a world of THEIR OWN MAKING.

Face the facts...Muslims, islamic fundalmentalists, terrorists....will always hate the west, no matter how much we bow and placate them, and say we're sorry....live with it, but make them aware that when they violate our sovereign states the repurcussions will be severe...you don't keep rewarding a dog that bites you, you either get rid of it, or use whatever means necessary to control it....

"Yemeni security forces fired into the air..."

Big deal! These stone age clowns fire weapons into the air on a regular basis for any reason from a birth to grand opening of a used camel lot!

Time for the US to grow a set and act. The first over an embassy wall should be shot by uniformed United States Marines. Then fire on the any others coming over. That will stop it. Oh sure, there will be more uproar but these neanderthals clearly understand when you react at their level. Get the civilian contractors out of there. No other group has the discipline and order of the United States Marines.

Logic, There were no warnings that security should be increased. The was no expectation that a You-Tube video would get the results they did. (Nobody -knew ahead of time, you fool and liar!) Where do you make this up after the fact. More Ryan like lies from the right!

I know a lot of Muslims that love Western principles, love the religious protections that secularism provides, and have thick enough skin to deal with Free Speech.

They have been fortunate enough to experience the virtues of American liberty and have come to embrace it. So I don't understand why people think that the solution is to turn up the volume on the ugly-side of Free Speech when dealing with parts of the world who have not really experienced it.

SilverFlyer,

You're right. Karl Rove outlined the entire plan on his white board last night on Special Report with Bret Baier. My favorite NPR and past NPR personalities were present for discussion in their usual civil manner, unlike CNN, MSNBC. Karl Rove's genius was once again in play and you sir were brilliant to figure it out before it was revealed. Why are you only commenting on these boards and not a proudly paid contributor on the The Rachel Maddow Show? Ohhhhh, undercover? Maybe you are paid? Congratulations on finding increased income during these hard times.

And your solution to this whole situation is what?????? I'm sorry am I president of the United States? Am I even running for President? When I run for President and become commander and cheif I will discuss my plan.

So, in other words - you just want to whine about stuff.

Great. Good to know what will be the extent of your contribution. A bunch of worthless QQing.

If a person refuses to even consider how things could be done better and put some thought into their opinion; it's pretty much worth jack squat.

Spence, Let's see who attacked who on this issue. even republicans are criticizing Mitt for jumping the gun and having the wrong facts. If you want this kind of leadership fine, but Mitt already scare the H out of me if he would lead. And he won't as a member of a religious cult he has been told to put his church first. That is one of the dogmas of the Latter Day Saints!

Logic, There were no warnings that security should be increased. The was no expectation that a You-Tube video would get the results they did. (Nobody -knew ahead of time, you fool and liar!) Where do you make this up after the fact. More Ryan like lies from the right!

Well since you only read the lame stream media you might have missed.....

September 10, al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri made direct threats against Americans in Libya to avenge the death of Abu Yahya al-Libi, a high-ranking al-Qaeda official taken out by an American drone attack last June.

Israeli sources have revealed that Egypt's General Intelligence warned jihadists were planning attacks on U.S. and Israeli embassies as early as a week before they occurred on the anniversary of Al Qaeda's 9/11 terror attacks.

On June 11, a rocket-propelled grenade was fired at Sir Dominic Asquith, the British ambassador, as he drove through the city. He was unscathed, but two of his bodyguards were injured. Britain responded by closing its diplomatic office in Benghazi and withdrawing all UK staff. Five days earlier, unknown assailants had thrown an improvised explosive device at the gates of the US consulate in the middle of the night, causing no injuries.

Yea Libya's a great country. Meanwhile thousands of portable surface to air missles are missing. Hmm... wonder what they are going to be used for IRESPOND idiot

Logic, You are totally Illogical! Yes, ever think that Romney's criticism may also be causing the attacks? Shut the big mouth rich boy! Down with the right wingers and their crazy party!

And your solution to this whole situation is what?????? I'm sorry am I president of the United States? Am I even running for President? When I run for President and become commander and cheif I will discuss my plan.

So, in other words - you just want to whine about stuff.

Great. Good to know what will be the extent of your contribution. A bunch of worthless QQing.

If a person refuses to even consider how things could be done better and put some thought into their opinion; it's pretty much worth jack squat.

What is your answer? Would you do exactly what Obama is doing?\

You want my answer I will give it to you...

I would not have let Mubarak be taken down. Some time puppet governments are better than the alternative and I said as much when the "arab" spring was taking place.

INSANE! What have we done to deserve all this? Al-Qaeda is growing back in power.

I'm sorry but the lack of effective counteraction when an American Embassy and it's personnel are attacked is the direct result of being political. They , I believe, should have shot to kill anyone who stepped on American soil with intent to do harm as a matter of self defense.

Stop depending on in country contractors to provide security (a Bush Admin. decision.)and station our Marines INSIDE the embassies with the firepower they need to protect the lives of all within.

Eric - I'm sure you were on this site in 2004 telling John Kerry to stop criticizing Bush while we were at war in IRAQ? Hypocrite!

Skip,

It's always a bigger picture than people realize.

Thankfully we don't have a puppet administration so I'm sure we will get to the bottom of it.

Sometimes conspiracies are just that.

Good angle.

Logic Required,

Agreed. Your opinion was also confirmed by an Iranian friend in the US since the 70s. He said many times that some countries are better off with dictators, as bad as they can be, than with democracy because they just are not ready for it. Tribal and religious grudges, hatred, continue to be held and acted on. That comes from someone from the middle east that has enjoyed the freedoms of this country and appreciates them.

To the @!$%# who just HAD to make his movie to make a point...way to go...you did what you set out to do. While you're in hiding, make sure you call the families of the people who were killed, as I am sure they feel that your actions were justified and their family members died for your "cause."

Maybe you can go to the local zoo and bitch-slap a couple of tigers to make the point that you are above animals and it is your right to show them that.

Selfish dumbass.

Insane, Romney is encouraging attacks on the President and America, could he be encouraging these attacks.

Logic Required, The attacks came as a direct result of a You-tube video, I could have daily quotes of threats to Americans and our embassies almost every day of the week for the past 10 years or more since we went into the middle east to win two wars and are coming out LOSERS with 7,200 wasted American lives. Call it a part of bush's legacy!

The problem that is as almost as big as their ignorance is that they have too much time on their hands. We should be going after the Imams that are stoking this violence,they have not been mentioned once. They are the ones that call their people to riot. The militant extremist use this as cover to attack, they work in unison, I would put the Imams on notice for instigating these trivial things into a full scale riot. Even though they did not do the dirty work directly their hands are just as bloody, and should be dealt with accordingly.

These are acts of war. Period.

Logic, You are totally Illogical! Yes, ever think that Romney's criticism may also be causing the attacks? Shut the big mouth rich boy! Down with the right wingers and their crazy party!

Temper, temper. Do I think Romney's criticism after the attacks may have caused the attacks? Is this a real question? No I don't, because that makes no sense at all.

Romney's criticism of Obama is fanning the flames of this uprising.

Wow guys, this is so silly it doesn't make any sense.

So let me guess was it ok for....

Kerry devoted almost his entire 27-minute address to a critique of Bush. On a day when seven U.S. servicemen were killed in a suicide bombing attack in Iraq, Kerry termed the war in Iraq "catastrophic." Still later, he referred to it in a statement as "a quagmire," a word often applied to the U.S. conflict in Vietnam. He also blasted the president's record on job creation, health care, energy independence and education.

or

On a July 2008 appearance on CNN, then-Senator Obama used the death of U.S. troops in Afghanistan as talking point to ding John McCain and President Bush for their support of the Iraq War.

I would not have let Mubarak be taken down.

And how would you have done that? Put US boots on the ground against a popular uprising and expect it not to be a disaster? Should we have provided the weapons and ammunition to shoot unarmed demonstrators?

The region was already destablized and headed into full-blown rebellion. 3 options:

1) To stay out of it would have ensured a long, drawn out conflict which would have had major negative impacts on oil markets during a period of economic turmoil.

2) Enter on the side of the dictators who were already killing civilians and commiting acts of brutality; only furthering the narrative that the US speaks out of both sides of its mouth in the Middle East; thus undermining our operations there.

3) Assist the rebels to expedite the end of the conflict and open up roads for economic influence. Although there are definite legitimate misgiving about doing so; it seems to be the most pragmatic approach out of the other options.

JK; you and I both know we are going to have to go back a lot further than Iraq and 9/11/2001 if we want to find the root of all religions problems.

What invading Iraq did was show terrorists (and all sides have terrorists) how easy it is to overthrow a government in the Middle East. 9/11/2001 didn't show that the USA could be toppled. Personally I don't think the debate over who was behind 9/11/2001 is over with - why wasn't bin Laden taken alive, did he even put up a fight? Old bin boy knew too much, no way was he going to be allowed to have his day in court.

A let's see! bush went and got in into wars in the middle east along with daddy bush in 1993. Since then it has been down hill. ALL PART OF THE BUSH FAMILY LEGACY TO AMERICA!

The US needs to send marines to all arab embassies and if there's any trouble do what they did in the movie Rules of Engagement with Samuel L. Jackson & Tommie Lee Jones. As Jackson put it in the movie, "Blow the motherf%ckers away!".

Insane, Romney is encouraging attacks on the President and America, could he be encouraging these attacks.

This is insane, you have nothing that supports Romney is "encouraging" attacks on the president or planning attacks on Americans overseas using Islamic terrorist organization. TOTALLY INSANE.

Call it a part of bush's legacy!

Really? What about the first World Trade attacks under Clinton, the Yemen attack of a US Navy Ship under Clinton? Also part of the Bush legacy?

The attacks came as a direct result of a You-tube video

I thought you said it was Romney's fault? Maybe to be safe we should tell you tube they are only allowed to air videos that make fun of Chritians, Asians, Jews, and Mormons. Ban in America any negative Islam speech. Is that your answer? What's your answer? How would you respond to idiots who kill over a You Tube video?

I spit on the false god allah and on the false prophet.

If Jackson and Sharpton are part of the problem, then so is Jones and his ilk. Who is the least peaceful of the three...my vote goes to Jones.

Skip, I was wondering about the same thing. The director who described himself as a "Jewish Israeli" is supposedly now in the UK but lived in SoCal yet our embassies are the ones attacked. Something is not 'kosher' here.

LogicReguired

And your solution to this whole situation is what?????? I'm sorry am I president of the United States? Am I even running for President? When I run for President and become commander and cheif I will discuss my plan.

Ahh I see... in true righty fashion... we just critize but offer up no alternative solution. What would Romney do?? Oh wait, nothing.

Amazing in the middle of the Iraqi war, Dubya was campaigning for re-election too. Yes, and Obama can continue his campaign but it might be nice to HAVE A PLAN! Bush right or wrong had a plan and a direction he wanted to go in Iraq.

Do you honestly think Obama is simply ignoring this entire situation? You mean he is not in contact with his staff, generals, and everyone else that is involved with this situation. I am in quite certain that Obama is fully aware of the sitaution, has taken the advice of his top aids (Kind of like ALL PRESIDENT do), and has already weighed options.

Many deaths are happening in Afganistan and yet I have never said anything about Obama campaigning. This situation requires attention and is different.

Wow, just like Romney... "I never said anything, but you did say: Obama is in Colorado today because the campaignis what is important to him, Screw the attacks,

A let's see! bush went and got in into wars in the middle east along with daddy bush in 1993. Since then it has been down hill. ALL PART OF THE BUSH FAMILY LEGACY TO AMERICA!

Iran takes American hostages under Carter, attack and kill Marines under Reagan, On and on and on. Maybe they are just carzy bastards who like to kill people and have been doing so for decades now.

Bush GOT us into two wars. REALLY???? So after 9/11 you were opposed to going to war with terrorist in Afghanistan? If I remember right 85% of Americans including almost all democrats wanting action taken in Afghanistan. You didn't notice the Congress vote that democrats and republicans said yes to for actions in Iraq?

That's right keep blaming bush, since you don't have a leader worth a crap just keep placing balme and pointing fingers. Economy, Bush's fault, attacks, Romney, I mean Bush's Fault. What a joke

Is that your answer? What's your answer? How would you respond to idiots who kill over a You Tube video?

What can be done is to demand that they be brought to justice, and assist in whatever way possible. It would be a diplomatic victory if we allow Libya to handle it, though. It would be a sign of commitment from the newly elected governments to keeping a lid on radicalism and religious violence.

If they cannot / will not bring the perpetrators to justice - we apply more pressure and/or do it ourselves. But I feel it is absoutely essential to foreign relations to try and give them a chance to do it themselves.

Regarding the video; we should make it plain that we are a nation which does not condone hatred and bigotry; but we make no apology for our core value of Freedom of Speech. That with liberty must come thick skin; and that although we do not have to agree with what people say, we support their right to say it.

@SpcTorres

"Jews and Christians till this day have to put up with their prophets and gods being made fun of. I can't watch an episode of Family Guy without them poking fun at Jesus or Jews. Yet they are afraid to add the prophet Muhamad to the list. Because everybody is scared of the Muslims."

Actually they had an episode on Family Guy or might of been South Park about the prophet Mohammad.. Youtube it.. They had to put a black sensor bar on it (Mohammad) or they weren't allowed to air it.. I find it disgusting that they can belittle and degrade Christ all day long and they do, but, Mohammad.. That's a NO-NO, what a double-standard! If they are going to censor religeous attacks against religeon they should cover them all.. Not just the Middle East's interest in fear of retalliation..

Maybe this mayhem was caused by a low budget movie or maybe a week of Democrats crowing about killing Ossama a few days before the anniversary of 9/11 was the fuel?

Either way the deteriorating situation in Middle East and the Economy-Unemployment are like scenes from Jimmy Carter's failed term in office and the movie Ground Hog Day!

That's a NO-NO, what a double-standard!

I think they didn't want to cause violence for the sake of a joke. It's an unfortunate choice, but the mature and pragmatic one.

Personally, I feel all religions are plenty deserving of ridicule - especially fundamentalist Islam.

Idealism is important, but sometimes turning up the volume to 11 to drown out your neighbor protesting about loud music isn't the solution to a much much larger problem.

It's a tough position to be in... do you go the route of ideologue and put out as much offensive stuff as possible to make some sort of ambiguous point? Doesn't seem to really make the case for the virtues of Free Speech in a newly formed democracy, now, does it? But what..... what's to be done....



4.5 million low-paying/low-no benefit jobs

Out of a number of absolutely hypocritical points - I will just choose this one to respond to... telling by your rant you do not come across as very reasonable; having suffered for a long time from acute ODS.

But, regarding this number: I do recall the "Texas Miracle" being touted as a huge victory not long ago.... remember that? Remember what kind of jobs those were? It didn't matter then to ya'll... so why all of a sudden does it matter now? - -- oh yeah, ODS.

@Itsabouttime

Ahh I see... in true righty fashion... we just critize but offer up no alternative solution. What would Romney do?? Oh wait, nothing.

I did have a solution and I mentioned it in a different post - it involved not backing the Muslim Brotherhood in the first place. You guys want to change the subject and get me to write some two page plan on middle east affairs and it is not going to work. I have my opinion of what I would do, but I'm not President and not screwing up currently, he is. You want my plan and than you want to tell me how I'm wrong, well lets just skip all that and try to stay on subject.

Do you honestly think Obama is simply ignoring this entire situation? You mean he is not in contact with his staff, generals, and everyone else that is involved with this situation. I am in quite certain that Obama is fully aware of the sitaution, has taken the advice of his top aids (Kind of like ALL PRESIDENT do), and has already weighed options.

It took Obama hours to even issue a statement, he first attack Romney before attacking the attacks. It is now a whole day later and he has not taken questions or has he laid out any strategy or clear message. He is always "weighing" options which you people love, but people are being attacked and killed it is time for him to try making some decisions.

Wow, just like Romney... "I never said anything, but you did say: Obama is in Colorado today because the campaignis what is important to him, Screw the attacks,

I said I have never attack Obama for campaigning while a war in Afghanistan is going on because like you said all presidents including Bush have done this. I would not even condemn the campaign if he had made some decisions and laid out a plan and was seen meeting with his officials. Going on the campaign trail while he as you say "weighs" his options is pathetic and I will criticize him for it.

I just don't understand - Islam is such a PEACEFUL religion!! (Roll Eyes.................)

Family Guy and South Park? Watch out Beavis and Butthead - your sexist ways will catch up to you too.

The 700 Club bashes every non Christian group on the planet - I think my Directv must have about 20 Christian channels, and all of them bash Muslims...so much for the Fair and Balanced crowd. My Born Again brother was a cool dude until he found your god - now he can't tolerate someone even using the word gawd - he is too dumbed down now to know gawd and god don't mean the same thing.

I did have a solution and I mentioned it in a different post - it involved not backing the Muslim Brotherhood in the first place.

And I responded with this, did you miss it? I'm curious as to how you would quantify that position as being the most reasonable one out of the options available to the potus....

Put US boots on the ground against a popular uprising and expect it not to be a disaster? Should we have provided the weapons and ammunition to shoot unarmed demonstrators?

The region was already destablized and headed into full-blown rebellion. 3 options:

1) To stay out of it would have ensured a long, drawn out conflict which would have had major negative impacts on oil markets during a period of economic turmoil.

2) Enter on the side of the dictators who were already killing civilians and commiting acts of brutality; only furthering the narrative that the US speaks out of both sides of its mouth in the Middle East; thus undermining our operations there.

3) Assist the rebels to expedite the end of the conflict and open up roads for economic influence. Although there are definite legitimate misgiving about doing so (ie support of a theocratic political party); it seems to be the most pragmatic approach out of the other options.



It is now a whole day later and he has not taken questions or has he laid out any strategy or clear message

Maybe because he has actual sh!t to do about what's going on with people that actually get sh!t done..... rather than satiate the slobbering media circus and people demanding kneejerk reactions to everything?

Who gave the Marines the order to stand down when being overrun by a hostile force on American soil??? Why did Americans die and obama say I am sorry for offending you?? Either obama is a pussy or a muslime possibly both. One thing is for sure he is not concerned with Americas best interest.

Who gave the Marines the order to stand down when being overrun by a hostile force on American soil???

It was actually mostly local security forces.

Outsourcing to save money has its pitfalls.

And the rest of your post is just silly: not even Rush or Beck are dumb enough to play that "he's a mooslim!" line.



If this was happening under Bush during his reelection hwo do you think the media would be covering it?

I really don't care that much. It seems some folks have a bone to pick with the media and take it out on the potus. Or a bone to pick with Al Sharpton and take it out on the potus. Or a bone to pick with Muslim extremists and take it out on the potus.

It's not unlike how these radicals had a bone to pick with an Israeli filmmaker and took it out on US embassies.

Let me say it again, mohammed was a false prophet!

And I responded with this, did you miss it?

No, I was responding to itsabouttime. I gave my answer, you disagree but many in the intelligence community were saying the same thing at the time. You didn't have to put boots on the ground to back Mubarak there were other ways but Obama didn't just not back him he actively supported a change. Again I'm not going to get into a long middle east policy debate point by point, it would take to long and would bore me and everyone else. I gave my thoughts and you disagree.

Maybe because he has actual sh!t to do about what's going on with people that actually get sh!t done

Yeah like campaignin Colorado, attend a Jay Z Fundraiser, and go on David Letterman.

J_P_PatchesPal_1...(#1.127)..."The 700 Club bashes every non Christian group on the planet - I think my Directv must have about 20 Christian channels, and all of them bash Muslims..."

Really ???.....And 1 silly youtube video causes all this recent violence....If your statement were true...the world would be free of Islamic Terrorist Homicide Bombers....they would have all blown themselves up, out of existence. .....if 20 Channels were broadcasting muslim bashing programming every day....Scheese, where do you come up with this stuff ????

LogicReguired

It's not changing the subject. If someone wants to criticize the President, fine.. First Amendment/Freedom of Speech is every American's right. However, I always find that if you are going to criticize someone, it's best to offer a solution as well. Especially (not you/Romney) is running for President as well.

Hours?? Oh I see... (Sarcasm).. Dear President Obama, please make sure you come on national television 5 minutes after something like this happens. Please do not think level headed and consult your top advisors, our allies, or anyone else involved when this happens. Please just send in our military forces into a soverign nation, and then worry about what happens when it's done. Also, please just stay in the WH 24/7, and monitor this situation. Ignore anything else that is going on in this country, and you are NOT allowed to campaign for re-election. Only the GOP can do that when they are in the WH.

President Obama has made announcements on this and I am sure more are going to come.

ProBusiness

I just don't understand - Islam is such a PEACEFUL religion!! (Roll Eyes.................)

I don't understand a peaceful 'christian' religion, wants to force their beliefs down the throats of the American people... and why the GOP embraces this and goes against amendment #1... but hey, I know how to deal with that... Vote Democrat.

Harley Chic

OH yes....you checked Obama's "facebook" Page and found that its mostly muslims who love him. LOL, Is this why Obama has a low approval rating in the islamic world? Oh and all muslims must be terrorists right? Dear President Obama, please instill fear in the world like Dubya did. Please make sure the world feels more threatened by the United States (like Dubya did), and lower our approval rating across the globe. Make sure you threaten to use our military at all times, and do not worry if you borrow more money from China to pay for it.

I am shocked at the ignorance and intolerance being displayed here. I shouldn't be, but I am.

You people are ALL BEING MANIPULATED.

Hold off on the vitriol until the FBI rounds these folks up and the investigation is complete. This is far more insidious than any of you know and it's going to go places none of your ever dreamed.

The makers of this so-called "movie" have achieved their goal. Look at yourselves. You're screaming hat at one another and at the people of the middle east. Dream come true. Mission accomplished.

Wake up, shut up and smell the coffee.

Obama/Biden 2012

wow, I really think all the good Christians are no better than the muslums. All I hear is kill them and destroy this. Sure sounds like the middle east freak show right here in the good old christian America. Religion destroys no matter where you are in this world.

GDog said:

I wish Muslim leaders would clearly express the fact that committing violence simply because you feel offended is wrong, and that Muslims should treat religious insults from 'infidels' as being totally meaningless.

And that's exactly what they're saying, they just want other Muslims to ignore it:

"We urge that this ignorant attempt to provoke the religious feelings of Muslims in the Arabic-speaking world be ignored and that its extremist producers not be given the cheap publicity they so desperately seek. Those who created this trashy film do not represent the people of America or the Christian faith. The only proper response to intentional provocations such as this film is to redouble efforts to promote mutual understanding between faiths and to marginalize extremists of all stripes.”

I agree with them 100%. It was a trashy attempt at cheap publicity, no doubt conjured by a very juvenile mind. the best thing we can do is just ignore it and go on with our lives.

. I gave my thoughts and you disagree.

And I posted why I disagree, substantiated with pretty basic logic regarding the bigger picture in the region.

He could have done 'other stuff' is not really a well reasoned response. It's not even an attempt at a response.

Again I'm not going to get into a long middle east policy debate point by point

So you'd rather just continue to post empty rhetoric and half-baked complaints? Is it too much to ask that a person substantiate their position on a subject? I'm not even asking for a 'point by point' - I'm simply asking for a logic and reason based argument as to why "keeping Mubarak in power" would have been a better option given the circumstances I listed above; and a short explanation on how it may have been done while preserving the integrity of our diplomatic/military operations in the region.



Yeah like campaignin Colorado, attend a Jay Z Fundraiser, and go on David Letterman.

So his schedule must stop to placate the press? What's he gonna say? They already got statements, and I'm sure they will hear promptly about any new developments, decisions, or positions when it is appropriate. Should the potus just sit on standby for the press corps whenever anything happens to ensure that he personally updates them on everything?

Shuklack

so why all of a sudden does it matter now?

Hmmmm, well let's see. The Texas Miracle has been going on for decades. Yes, Perry took credit, just as any politician would. There's nothing wrong with taking credit for continuing the strongest state growth because of low taxes, more business friendly regulations and exploiting one of our strongest industries, which is expanding throughout our nation, energy.

I won't belabor you with the benefits of these accomplishments because I'm sure you won't understand them.

Suffice it to say, the jobs created in Texas are a result of Texas policies that are unique and successful. Oh, and they haven't cost us an astronomical amount of money. You see my good friend Suckaluck, the $863 BILLION $timulu$ has indeed "created or saved" 4.5 low-paying/low-no benefit jobs. The horror is that it is costing us $200,000 to create EACH JOB!!!!

Spending $200,000 to create, at best, jobs that pay $25,000 can only be described as an abysmal failure. But Liberals think government can just keep borrowing and printing more and more money to support this foolishness. That's why we, who do understand, will take back control in November and begin the long difficult road of making Americans proud of success rather than mediocrity like Barrack Hussein desires.

THIS is why it all of a sudden matters now. I understand you Libbies have no concept of return on investment because you rely solely on government handouts. But those of us who DO work and who ARE successful and have to fund your reliance on said handouts don't quite see how this is a good investment.

Any more questions Spanky?

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans.

Suffice it to say, the jobs created in Texas are a result of Texas policies that are unique and successful

You mean by taking Stimulus money and creating government jobs with it? Kind of just gloss over that little factoid do we?

One simple point for all AMerican voters to take from this. If you vote for Obama a second time these things will soon be happening on the streets of our country. He embraces the "Arab Spring" and aided in it without the approval of Congress and now will not respond as a leader of free people with our values should, if that does not tell you something then there is no hope for you. Only a lemming would follow this Pied Piper off the cliff, or was that a rat?

The issue is that the US constantly gets pushed back on their heels and making excuses for the terrorists and protesters. So we continue to look weak and are perceived weak and thus more and more small groups feel empowered to rise up and burn our flag etc. We are not seeing demonstrators here in the US burning others flag or burning effigies of those that matter in the Muslim world. So the public hate is one sided, but for many Americans the hard feelings are simmering below the surface.

The US is putting together a billion dollar plus aid package to Egypt and we have forgiven their prior loans. I am unaware that we have money to throw around and give to those that hate us. When Hillary arrived in Egypt a few weeks ago tomatoes were thrown at her. When she asked to meet with the winners after the election she was denied. Egypt held Americans after the fall of Mubarak. I still don't know if they have been released.

The plain truth is that the US is the country doing all the fighting, bearing the financial burden, and constantly the one hated. Even when we give money they still hate us and argue how that money should be spent.

Our foreign policy is all wrong. The filmaker is just a crappy filmaker and this administration should make it clear to the Muslim world that people here have the freedom to express their opinions no matter how ridiculous. Nobody cared a bit about the film until these senseless deaths.

Romney was right to talk about what freedom of speech means to Americans and how we want to protect their rights even when the POV is hurtful. The democrat party had a change to their platform that required 3 vote calls that was extremely disturbing because they booed God 3 times and actually the boos were louder and the platform should have kept the language which was to remove God from their platform. I hate how that party has changed and their priorities, but that is their right to remove God. Can you imagine removing Muhammand? Do you think that would be tolerated? That is the difference between the American system of freedom and the system seen in the Muslim world that would never permit such a vote.

These people are out of their f-n minds - They're seriously f-t up in the head.

Enough is enough already! - We really need to start increasing the safe harvesting, production and distribution of our own natural energy here in the USA, rather than paying for fuel from countries where they hate us. Let’s keep that money and those jobs here in the US.

Drilling here at home might not be the whole answer, but it's certainly a good place to start.

So why are we not lining up the marines and mowing these people down as they attempt to invade American soil...create a moat of blood from the bodies of the attackers and the rest will fall in line... They expect us to respect their religion after this? And what does Hillary say, Obama's henchman? She condemns the movie basically saying she agrees with the muslims. The problem is violence is never an answer when you disagree with someone else's free speech. If they're the religion of peace, then pray for the film makers...and don't watch the film.

President O campaigning in Vegas and cozying up to celebrities during this crisis is a out and out OUTRAGE against the American People....his TRUE colors were shown during this disaster, as were his non-existent political "chops" for foreign affairs.....He---and ALL OF THOSE who continue to support him--- are a disgrace to this country!

Agree what famous amos stated above. So, because you are offended you take to the streets and promote violence and death on anyone not like you? FU&^%$ these people and if they are offended- I'm not advocating to offend everyone over their beliefs but get over it people- just like the rest of the adult world. As&^%$holes living in the stone age...

Can't Obama just go over there and bow?

Here's a thought. Why don't the occupiers in the US go to middle east embassies and break in to their places.

Time has come to pick one of the countries in the middle east Blow it into the shape of a glass bowl. let the neighboring countries pick glass out of their turbans!!!

This just in!

Massive looting has left the American Embassy empty with the exception of toilet paper. Mohammed Al Skidmarkei was quoted as saying "What would we want with toilet paper?"

Mel Gibson has reportedly been in talks with famed Pakistani director/producer Hymen Al Intactsee to make a sequel to the film entitled "Guilt of the Jew Bastard Pig F*ckers" which they claim will correct a few of the obvious factual errors made in the film "Innocence of the Muslims" which tells the tale of some guy named mohammed who liked to rape little boys long before the Catholic infidels.

President Obama has vowed to apologize for Americans using their freedom of speech. Mitt Romney has promised that if strongarming his way into the presidency works out for him, he will make sure to convert all muslims to the true faith of Mormonism.

Canada meanwhile has pledged to keep flying under the radar and maintain its stable and tranquil lifestyle.

Unhappy-1583758

I'm ignoring the entire "rant" about Obama. However...

I think your lack of history and knowledge is very shocking. Reagan sold weapons to IRAN AFTER the hostages were released, not before. Like... 1983!!! Course, I am sure Reagan promised illegal support to Iran for releasing the hostages.

ProBusiness
Yes, I am going to go there. http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/church-state/decisions.html Here is just a 'few' court cases on the seperation of church and state. There are MANY Christians (not all) that are attempting to enforce their beliefs on the American people, and the GOP gains a LOT of support from there. Why else would the GOP submit 'bills' on religion in the 112 session of Congress. Why yesterday alone, the GOP submitted a BILL to limit equal marriage on a military base. They aren't doing this because of DOMA.. they are doing it based on their right christian backers. How many christian lobbyists are out there trying to "BUY" congress.

Now I do agree... this forcing of christian beliefs is non violent, does not include terrorism, or extreme measures as compared to islamic nations.

Hi to Amanda2017567, and I appreciate that there is some restraint being urged by sincere people. However, when I referred to Muslim leaders, they must be leaders whose decree carries weight of law. It doesn't do any good to say "we tried to tell them to ignore it" when rioters in Egypt are at this moment demanding we change our laws to accommodate their views. People are getting killed. We can't tolerate it. If anyone thinks that it makes sense to kill people because some stupid video made by a lunatic half a world away goes viral, well, they meet my definition of crazy.

P.S. I've agreed with Shuklack quite a bit.

Dust off some old 30 cal. B.A.R.s and the point will be made. DO NOT ATTACK US. The U.S. needs to use some force or this will just keep happening

@ Gabriel;

Here's a thought. Why don't the occupiers in the US go to middle east embassies and break in to their places.

Ha good one!

Because we respect and protect others soveriegnity,unlike the communities of these countries,they have no respect,nor do half of them probably know what the word means. Most of these murderous hooligans should have been in school learning that the West does not hate them,as they have wrongfully been taught.Muslims in America are safer than Muslims in the ME hands down. Yet they hold us accountable for someone elses propaganda.

Ignorance and Hypocrisy abounds in the ME.

All the way up to Roosterboy

It is amazing "how little" it takes to set them off. It makes me think they have very little else to do. They all look fairly young and healthy. The U.S.A. is not going to solve any of their hang-ups. We have enough of our own. But, it does anger me to see our flag in flames.

The whole idea of an American Embassy being "American Soil" is ridiculous. Especially in the Middle East. It is their country and they will never see that land and compound as belonging to the US whether we bought it, rent it or it was deeded by their government. They don't play by the same rules as NATO or UN nations. Why are we surprised?

GET OUR PEOPLE OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST!!!!! STOP AID!!!! Obviously over decades it has not helped. Leave them to their own devices.

These were not protests, but rather well organized attacks. They used the film as a cover. I would expect more "events" in other countries in the region. Lets see how the Obama Administration handles this situation. Perhaps all they (protesters) need is some community organizing, but wait I think they have that already...

The problem we have with Obama is not personal. We want a leader. A leader is one that makes a decision and stands by it. It may be right or it may be wrong but at least a decision was made. I didn't agree with Clinton a lot in the 90's but at least he MADE a decision and stood by it.

Obama couldn't make a decision if his life depended on it and would throw Michelle under the bus if it meant he would get reelected. He can't make a decision without a poll or someone else telling him what to do. Against gay marriage then when the polls showed otherwise for gay marriage. The Cambridge issue with professor Gates and the police acted "stupidly" - then a cold beer will fix that. Trayvon Martin. ObamaCare. He shouldn't raise taxes during a recession and a year later wants to raise taxes in a recession. What to do in Libya when it all went down last Spring. Obama didn't know what to do and waited for other countries to react first to determine what he should do. And the list goes on and on.

Obama is as useless as a fishing pole in the desert. I know you liberals hated George Bush, and I admit there were things he did I didn't agree with either, but there was NEVER a doubt where he stood or what his opinion was. THAT is the sign of a great leader. Clinton had that. So did Reagan. But the last two presidents we had that were indecisive and could not make a decision were absolute failure: Jimmy Carter and now Barack Hussein Obama.

This country needs a leader. Someone who can make a decision. Obama has shown over the last 4 years he can't make a decision without a poll or someone else telling him what that decision should be. What a useless incompetent pathetic and spineless president we have in Obama.

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Ah, look. Even after 4 years of Obama they still hate us. Surprise, surprise.

Does anybody think these people can be reasoned with?

ItsaboutTime: When Christians threaten to cut a person's head off for not believing in their beliefs THEN you can compare Christianity to Islam. Until then you simply confirm and look more and more like a fool trying to substantiate such an irrational and illogical comment.

G-Dog-787120

Why would they feel the need to "clearly express" something they don't believe?

I just saw Zbigniew Brzezinski on Morning Joe making the case for restricting speech that is hateful and inflammatory to Muslims. I have the same contempt for this Jones fellow as I do for the Westboro types, but we don't censor speech just because some will find it offensive. If we allow censorship on that basis, then all freedom of speech is doomed, for any group could claim they were 'offended to violence' by anything and everything.

I guess you must accept the bad with the good with any ideology. So who's to blame? Those that deceived people and created these hate messages... that they KNEW might spark unrest and fuel latent fears? Or those that then took these messages and enflamed their followers with exaggerations and lies... that they KNEW would spark unfounded hate and conflict? Or those that then translated it all into violence?

No, I wasn't talking about Republicans. I was talking about the stupid preacher, the videographer, the extremist faction leaders, and their blind followers... kinda hard to tell the difference though.

put M-134's around the embassy's on remote controlled "flower pots" that way if they make it past the fence never again will another mob try. It would not even cost that much only about 50k per gun and it would only take 4 or 5 of them for profound protection of an entire compound

You ALL miss the point...this was the anniversary of 9/11...the timing of the film's release and posting on the "net" is not mute...demonstrators, fired up by Imams(who are almighty dictators/directors of the Muslim religion) take action. Most of these "demonstrations" were already in some stage of planning and just waiting for a "trigger"...Mr. Bascile provided that trigger with his atrocious farce he calls a "film".

Mr. Bascile's film has triggered violent reactions that resulted in the deaths of American citizens who were employed to be official representatives of our country overseas. Although he has the "right" to freedom of speech, he also has to accept responsibility for the results of applying that "right". This "expression" of his is not freedom of speech, but is tantamount to yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theatre that results in the deaths of individuals. He should be arrested by US Marshals and charged as an "accessory-to-murder".

The responsible parties in Libya should rightfully be pursued, discovered and brought to justice by the Libyans, with or without our help. Let the Libyans demonstrate their resolve to "HONOR" the internationally accepted commitment to support the sovereignty of a nations embassy on their soil.

I would not have let Mubarak be taken down. Some time puppet governments are better than the alternative and I said as much when the "arab" spring was taking place.

The choice wasn't yours to make. After thirty years of Mubarak's rule, the people of Egypt had had enough. Can you imagine this country keeping the same president for thirty years? Are Americans the only people in the world who are entitled to choose their leaders?

There are so many opinions from so many people who know next to nothing about the Middle East, its history or its people. Romney is one of them.

Some of you cowboys need to take a chill pill and go back to watching football.

50 highly trained Marines is not enough to do sh!t ...... they are being sent in there to be slaughtered, geez, who made that call? Hey Obama, enjoy the next 4 years, let's see how you handle this one, you haven't done much else, oh, that's right 'YOU' killed Osama .....! What a fk'ing joke.

This country is in very bad shape ........ the calm before the storm. Sounds like another war to me.

It blows my mind that liberals are trying to shift the blame to someone else, but then again this is what your fearless leader Barry does. Why cant you just admit that running around and saying that your sorry to a group of complete nut jobs doesnt work? Obama is a joke and you people still support him. Now you want to say that Romney is fanning the flames? Romney is saying exactly what Obama should be doing. Then Barry blows off a meeting with Israel because he has campaign stops? But Barry has time to meet with the Muslim Brotherhood? How do you liberals not see a problem with this?

ProBusiness

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/28/pastors-comments-about-gays-draw-protesters/

Build a great big, large fence - 50 or 100 miles long - and put all the lesbians in there," Worley said. "Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can't get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they'll die out. You know why? They can't reproduce.

Nice try.. but that's one example of a "Christian" who wants to enforce their beliefs on americans. Mmm...

Unhappy-1583758

Thank you for validating exactly what I said. The hostages were released BEFORE the Iran-Contra affair. However, Reagan and the GOP were making 'secret' dealing with Iran before it actually happened.

Hey to LMarcT: Ultimate blame rests on the ones who commit crimes for lack of self control, but I fully agree that there is incitement out the wazoo coming from every which direction. If the real leaders of the Muslim world would simply decree as I request then the violent behavior would diminish, but you're right in noting that many people seem interested in stoking violence and hatred.

skip Nicholson, Oklahoma City The statement that Islam is a cancer qualifies in your mine as a hate crime and you think the people behind this film should be the ones to be arrested and put in jail? I am constantly amazed at the absolute ignorance some of you posters display ie: make sure no one speaks something that is not politically correct since it might hurt someones feelings (even if it is true). The film maker had every right to his opinion and the rioters did not have a right to kill anyone because their feelings got hurt.

would it be wrong to let them gather at our embassies? Which at that point we hit the red button that blows our own building to pieces....im ok with that..we can rebuild....but hey wouldn't that be a sweet message...KAAA BOOM we didn't like that embassy anyways. I mean really they are destroying them anyways, why cant we do it first, just split seconds after most have scaled the walls and approach the inside...let them come...they will round themselves up.

johngis im with ya.

Demar-1859463

Please tell me how you are any better than the idiots who made the anti-Islamic film in the first place?

How are you any better than those in the violent mobs storming the embassies, filled with senseless hatred? Do you not get that people all over the world can read your ugly rants? The very people who began these attacks might be reading your hate-filled comments as we speak. You add nothing but fuel to the fire.

You express only senseless anger and bigotry. You are just like the protestors.

Please STFU.

Militant Islamist and extremist keep that entire region of the world in absolute ignorance and hate. I'll just stop there. Those countries are made worthless by the dummies that inhabit them.

Nice To See The The UN Democratic Believers Of Free Speech (But Only Theirs) Are Hard At Work Robo-Collapsing Other Posters Work Again. That's OK Reposting Is Faster Than Robo-Collapsing So Please Allow Me.....

Oh Yes The Blow Back From POMPUS Obama's Endless KILLER DRONE Not Wars Comes Bubbling To The Surface Once Again!

Soon Our Embassies In Yemen Egypt, Sudan, Tunisia, Iraq, Pakistan and even Afghanistan Will Be Endangered By Bumbling Barry & Billary's Inexperience Encouragement and Secretly Supporting Al-Qaeda And Associated Radial Islamic Groups.

If Is NOT As If We Don't Already Have Excellent 9/11 Examples Of What Happens When We Support Instead Of Exterminating Al-Qaeda But Once Again Obama's Arrogance & Ignorance Is Endangering and Costing US More American Lives!

America Refuse To Reward ANY Wall Street Not War For Fun & Profit Supporting Incumbents With Re-Election.....Especially Not You Just Don't Understand KILLER DRONE Barry!

And Now Back Door Barry Wants Those Things Flying Over America?

Psst Speaking Of 9/11 Watch This PBS Documentary......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I

PS kaybeetoys...Who Are You To Be Telling ANYONE To STFU? And Barry Bush-wacker & Billary and the UN Globalist Created The Arab Spring Don't You DemocRATic Revisionists Remember Anything?

Obviously Not!

You know, instead of all this "Reagan did this, and Bush did that, and Romney said this".........why can't Obama-Shama-Lama-Ding Dong's disciples tell us what his response should be / will be to this latest development?

This is the second United States Diplomatic facility overseas that's been attacked in the last three (3) days. Four people are dead, how many injured, and property that belongs to the U.S Government has been damaged and/or destroyed.

It's time for the mouth that roared to do something Presidential.

Giving the order to go after Bin Laden was easy. It was a no-brainer. My parakeet could have, and would have done it.

But, how is he going to handle this? How much $#!+ will he allow our people to take, before he responds?

Time to earn your pay, Barry. There's no talkin' your way out of this one

DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012

“Before you speak, think -Is it necessary? Is it true? Is it kind? Will it hurt anyone? Will it improve on the silence?”

~Sri Sathya Sai Baba

Remember that words have consequences. Hatred begets hatred...violence begets violence. People in the Middle East and elsewhere can read these comments.

People all over the world can judge the U.S. and its citizens by what you post here.

So be bigger than those who post intolerance, hatred, bigotry, and arrogance. You are not going to stop angry mobs from attacking our embassies overseas by venting. Go do your venting where it won't make the situation worse. Your hatred puts thousands of Americans who live and work in foreign countries in harm's way. Your freedom of speech gives you no right to do that.

Islam is a Terrorist Organization that hides behind a Religion. The weapons that the U.S. and other Nations provided to the Arab Spring are now being used against the U.S. and its interest in the region. Muslims around the World kill those that are of another belief and support the Islamic Terrorist Groups all in the name of the Dog Mohammad. Islam is not a peaceful religion, it and its followers are Terrorist and should be treated like Terrorist. O'Bama, wake up and at least "act" like a President. No doubt that the O'Bama has authorized the CIA to "indirectly" give assistance to the Syrian Rebels (Activist & Terrorist that started the Civil War in Syria) only to have that same assistance be used to attack Americans and American interest in the region. HEY O"BAMA, STAY OUT OF THE INTERNAL CIVIL WARS IN THE WORLD!! One of the Islamic beliefs is once a Muslim always a Muslim and O'Bama spent his formative years being schooled in Islam. It's Terrorist fighting terrorist, one Religion fighting another as they have done for hundreds and hundreds of years. Let them fight to the death and give assistance to the victor for a price.

PS kaybeetoys...Who Are You To Be Telling ANYONE To STFU?

Who am I? I have lived in four Islamic countries in the Middle East and Asia, and visited many others. I have friends and family members who live and work in Islamic countries.

I'd like to see them make it home alive.

Who the f*** are YOU?

Zman, you will never be happy with any democrat. For that matter, you will never be happy in any way, That's why you are a republican to begin with. So you think we should send troops as the "terrorists" dream of? or maybe he should order up some nukes like your fellow hawks have suggested? How many babies are you willing to kill in order to catch the bastards who did this? Who benefits from Arab violence? Arabs don't benefit, they got two wars and hundreds of thousands dead. america didnt benefit, we spent our grand children's future on bombs and such. The right wing did benefit a little by getting guys like you to vote for them and making money on arms deals. Isreal got more aid. So who is behind these guys who purposely throw gasoline into the mid east fire? I would guess it's the people who benefit and PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO DON'T THINK OR CARE ABOUT HUMANITY. and thats all I have to say about that.

Watch our magnificent leader OBAMA do...................................NOTHING!

Nice To See The The UN Democratic Believers Of Free Speech (But Only Theirs) Are Hard At Work.

Psst...kaybeetoys Your Posts are Every Bit as Offensive to Someone Out There as ANYONE Else's. You Cannot Use that as a Yardstick For Free Speech Or No One Is Allowed To Say Anything.

Guess What That Is CONTROLLED Speech & Thought And NO Islamic Fascists Or THEIR SUPPORTERS Are Going To Get Away With That Nonsense In This Country Or Elsewhere!

You Want Your Family Protected At Our Families Expense! If You Want That Then Demand That The der Homeland Security Be Assigned To Hunt Down These "Killers Of Americans" And Exterminate Them Where ever And Whenever instead Of Peeking into Our Windows and Sticking Their Hands Down Our Children's Pants!

Pompous Obama Screwed Up ROYALLY (Literally In The Case Of The King Of Bahrain & Saudi Arabia) And All Your Kind Of Though Control TROLLS Are Doing Is Blowing Smoke To Cover-Up His Failures Once Again!

“Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me'.” ~George Orwell

Do we really need to wait until January to get rid of this clown? If he had any shred of decency he'd resign. But that brings us to another issue - Joe Biden. Oh well. Whatcha going to do?

If any of you geniuses think the attack on the Libyan and Egyptian embassies were because of a stupid film you're more retarded than I thought.

Why doesn't the United States ask for a sign of unity from all those wonderful Latin American countries who claim to be christian................................HA! HA! HA!

Go easy on the head shaking, I am starting to notice some signs of mental illness as a result.

Hi kaybeetoys: I agree it isn't helpful or very smart to be insulting, but freedom of speech does grant what it says in very broad terms in this country. It's dumb to be deliberately abusive, but it's dumb to listen and criminal to kill someone over it.

Islamists and Christian nut jobs are the same thing, and I wish we could get everyone from those two groups together. Let them fight it out, and leave the rest of us Christians and Muslims in peace.

I hate Muslims, this includes Obama!

sharriannie- (1.19):

Excellent comment.

Thank you.

Obama pressured Mubarak to step down and turned the country over to his muslim brotherhood.
Obama killed thousands bombing Libya and turned the country over to his muslim brotherhood.
Obama caused the deaths and destruction! He next will work on Israel!

Who ever thought the Middle East/North Africa would listen to our words.

They have been Terrorists, Murderers from the start of time.

Morsi is a traitor--he IS not a good guy; Iran was directly involved in the burning of the US Flag. Never trust this region. They love death more than life---it is in the KORAN.

Iran is our biggest Enemy, and should be whip-lashed by the President's tongue, and other World Leaders for the rampant Nuclear Terrorists wanting to "own" the Entire Middle East, and North Africa.

Why has no Leader strongly spoken out about the terror, including Syria (Humanitarian reasons) and loss of lives. Now our Military is once again in danger--Warships sent there, Marines---the US cannot get out of any of these countries--we have been "hooked"; by the barbarians.

MUW

Nice To See The The UN Democratic Believers Of Free Speech (But Only Theirs) Are Hard At Work.

Psst...kaybeetoys Your Posts are Every Bit as Offensive to Someone Out There as ANYONE Else's. You Cannot Use that as a Yardstick For Free Speech Or No One Is Allowed To Say Anything.

Guess What That Is CONTROLLED Speech & Thought And NO Islamic Fascists Or THEIR SUPPORTERS Are Going To Get Away With That Nonsense In This Country Or Elsewhere!

You Want Your Family Protected At Our Families Expense! If You Want That Then Demand That The der Homeland Security Be Assigned To Hunt Down These "Killers Of Americans" And Exterminate Them Where ever And Whenever instead Of Peeking into Our Windows and Sticking Their Hands Down Our Children's Pants!

G-Dog-787120

Hi kaybeetoys: I agree it isn't helpful or very smart to be insulting, but freedom of speech does grant what it says in very broad terms in this country. It's dumb to be deliberately abusive, but it's dumb to listen and criminal to kill someone over it.

I'll address you, G-dog... you seem to have something between your ears, unlike some of the other 'free speakers' who post their ugly vitriol here. You're not the mindless type...this is for them:

I'm not against free speech. What I am against is stupidity, hatred and bigotry, and I see a lot of that here. Read some of these insane comments! I see a lot of keyboard cowboys who talk tough. They are people who have never been to the Middle East and would probably be afraid to go. Those who want to get even with the terrorists have my blessing: join the Marines and go defend our embassies abroad. Live with a bullseye on your back, like I did, like my friends and family do. Put your money where your mouth is, cowboys.

muhamad was a pig. drop a hot egg on them while we are LEAVING! The hot egg is a nuke of course!

It seems to me there are more people protesting in the Middle East over this movie than there are Americans who even knew this movie existed up until these protests began. That just seems kind of fishy that all of this violence occurs over some movie very few people in the USA even knew existed. What are these people anyway? Rabid animals that they would react so violently, killing and destroying without a second thought?

Psst kaybeetoys My Family Already Does Live With A Bulls-Eye Everyday for MY DAUGHTER IS FIGHTING IN AFGHANISTAN.....Right This Minute!

So When You Say Put your money where your mouth is, I suggest You Do The Same and Tough It Up and Quit Allowing Wall Streets and the UN Globalist Fear & Propaganda Terrorize Your Life!

Demand Obama Give The DHS/TSA A Real Job Hunting Down & Killing Terrorist Worldwide Instead Of Just Hiding Out And Attacking American Rights & Freedoms at Home!

PS Kaybee I also Served In The US Army As A 11Boo and I will Tell You Life Without Risks Isn't Worth Living! I Will Not Trade One More Freedom For Your So Called Safety!

If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom~Dwight D. Eisenhower

“We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right.” ~George Orwell

GDog said:

Hi to Amanda2017567, and I appreciate that there is some restraint being urged by sincere people. However, when I referred to Muslim leaders, they must be leaders whose decree carries weight of law. It doesn't do any good to say "we tried to tell them to ignore it" when rioters in Egypt are at this moment demanding we change our laws to accommodate their views. People are getting killed. We can't tolerate it. If anyone thinks that it makes sense to kill people because some stupid video made by a lunatic half a world away goes viral, well, they meet my definition of crazy.

Restrictions to First amendment rights of free speech stop at obscenity, incitement, and child porn. While I haven't seen either the 13 minute YouTube trailer nor the full 3 hour movie, from what I've heard of it, it's pretty terrible. I'm not sure I really want to, though I may have a look at the trailer this weekend to get a sense of just how offensive it my be when viewed by someone who is not Christian--I'm a witch and at various points in our religious history, practically every other religion in this world has tried to wipe us off the face of this planet; Christians have done the most to wipe us out.

In the meantime, here's what the Muslim community worldwide has been saying:

"This film really is cheap. It's low quality, low rate, and it really should've been ignored," said Dawud Walid with the Council on American Islamic Relations. "It's just a shame that in Libya that there's a small group of violent people who have escalated a situation. We don't like the contents of the film at all, but the last prophet of Islam, Muhammad, taught us that we're supposed to repel evil with righteousness and good behavior," he continued. "Prophet Muhammad would not sanction the wanton violence or the death of any innocent people."

Shaykh Abdul Aziz al-Ashaikh (Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and Chairman of the Senior Ulama):

"Hijacking Planes, terrorizing innocent people and shedding blood constitute a form of injustice that can not be tolerated by Islam, which views them as gross crimes and sinful acts."

Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, Pakistan:

"It is wrong to kill innocent people. It is also wrong to Praise those who kill innocent people."

Abdullah II, King of Jordan and descendent of the Prophet Muhammad:

"What these people stand for is completely against all the principles that Arab Muslims believe in."

From CAIR Canada, a Canadian Muslim group;

"Islam respects the sacredness of life, and rejects any express statement or tacit insinuation that Muslims should harm innocent people. Despite our disagreement with certain American policies, we must never abuse the concept of Jihad to target innocent civilians."

"Jihad, which literally means 'struggle,' has an internal, societal and combative dimension. The internal dimension of Jihad encompasses the struggle against the evil inclinations of the self, and the spiritual project to adorn the self with virtues such as justice, mercy, generosity and gentleness. The societal dimension includes struggling against social injustice and creating a communal identity based on charity, respect and equality. Finally, the combative aspect of jihad is only to be used as self-defense against aggression or to fight oppression, and, even then, to be observed with strict limits of conduct that preserves the life of innocents and the sanctity of the environment. Moreover, this latter type of Jihad can only be declared by a legitimate, recognized religious authority."

"Using the concept of Jihad to justify harming the innocent is contrary to the letter and spirit of Islam. We condemn any violence that springs from this misguided interpretation."

From Muqtedar Kahn, Asst Professor of Political Science, Adrian College:

"Militias like the Taliban have allowed their hate for the West to override their obligation to pursue the welfare of their people."

"The culture of hate and killing is tearing away at the moral fabric of the Muslim society. We are more focused on 'the other' and have completely forgotten our duty to Allah."

"Islam is not about defeating Jews or conquering Jerusalem. It is about mercy, about virtue, about sacrifice and about duty. Above all it is the pursuit of moral perfection. Nothing can be further away from moral perfection than the wanton slaughter innocent people."

Imam Kutty from Jami Mosque:

"Let us make no mistake about it: Today, Muslims have no enemy greater than fanatics in their midst...Let us know that fanaticism is ignorance; it is nothing but sickness and bigotry; let us know that fanaticism is opposed to both scripture and reason...We Muslims therefore condemn these barbaric attacks against innocent people."

"We condemn them unconditionally; we condemn them because it is opposed to reason and revelation. It is contrary to the fundamental principles of Islam which teach the sanctity of life. Make no mistake about it, we Muslims cannot be Muslims unless we affirm the sanctity of life in all forms."

"Let every Muslim know that there is no room in Islam for fanaticism, for hatred, for racism, for terrorizing innocent people, for indiscriminate killing, even in a state of war."

"Let us Muslims shoulder our responsibility in this crisis facing our society by distancing ourselves from all those who have perpetrated such a heinous and dastardly crime. I appeal to every Muslim to cooperate with the authorities in bringing the culprits to justice. Let no Muslim harbor such criminals in their midst; doing so is violating the laws and values that we cherish dearly in our religion.

And here's reaction from the rest of the world:

Western leaders expressed unanimous shock at killings that France's President Francois Hollande called an "odious crime".

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said: "Nothing can justify violence". Italy's Prime Minister Mario Monti praised the Libyan government for speaking out against the violence.

Russia's Foreign Ministry said: "We decisively condemn all attacks on foreign diplomatic representations and their employees as manifestations of terrorism that can have no justification."

At the United Nations, Under-secretary General for Political Affairs Jeffrey Feltman told the Security Council at a briefing: "The United Nations rejects defamation of religion in all forms, but there is no justification for violence such as occurred in Benghazi."

Libyan Deputy Prime Minister Mustafa Abu Shagour joined the condemnation of the killings. "I do condemn the cowardly act of attacking the U.S. consulate and the killing of Mr. Stevens and the other diplomats," he said in a message on Twitter.

"What happened at the U.S. embassy in Cairo is regrettable and rejected by all Egyptian people and cannot be justified, especially if we consider that the people who produced this low film have no relation to the (U.S.) government," Prime Minister Hisham Kandil said, reading out a statement.

"We ask the American government to take a firm position toward this film's producers within the framework of international charters that criminalize acts that stir strife on the basis of race, color or religion."

Even the Vatican has weighed in on it:

The Vatican in Rome said the violence showed the need to respect religions and avoid insulting believers.

"The serious consequences of unjustified offence and provocations against the sensibilities of Muslim believers are once again evident in these days," the Vatican's chief spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi said in a statement.

Lombardi said respect for the beliefs, texts, outstanding figures and symbols of religions was "an essential precondition for the peaceful coexistence of peoples."

Islamists and Christian nut jobs are the same thing, and I wish we could get everyone from those two groups together. Let them fight it out, and leave the rest of us Christians and Muslims in peace.

May the Flying Spagetti Monster make this happen.

Psst John It Was Another Al-Qaeda Attack In Libya When Even NBC News Admitted Obama Was Secretly Supporting Them Just Last Month!

US, Libya: Envoy Murders Timed To 9/11, Used Protests as Cover.....http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/13/consulate-attack-planned-as-2-part-militant-assault-libyan-official-says/

Seems Like NBC News Isn't Being As "Up Front" About Obama's Secret Al-Qaeda Supporters As They Could / Should Have Been!

Hmm It's Sure Funny That Just When They Need an External Threat To Terrorize America...Here's Comes Al-Qaeda To Rescue Bailout Barry Once Again!

Psst Speaking Of What Al-Qaeda Is Or Is Not Doing To US Watch This PBS Documentary......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I

*As USUAL:

American right-wingers stir the pot and get people killed: the makers of this film were probably paid by the Romney campaign in 2009 to make it and asked to release it before the election, and they would do the rest and all of Terry Jones and Im Bacile's friends are in the right-wing/Republican Tent;

*As usual: Schitt Romney uses a coordinated terrorist attack and murder of one of our Diplomats overseas to launch another coordinated attack on America from within hoping for political points from the murder and disrespecting the bereaved family, using the death as basis for a sad, ridiculous lie, and ignoring the consequences of his f**king mealy-as*ed mouth, which should be STAPLEd closed;

*As usual, John McShame chimes in like the mentally damaged, formerly decent, sadly broken by his own allies right-winger that he is and attacks The President's policies with no thought of the consequences to other diplomats overseas but hoping for some political crumbs from his owners in the American Neo-Con movement;

Sounds like all the right-wingers around the world are on the same page: how are they different?

Coordinated? Probably not, but VERY easily predicted by myself and the rest of those outside, watching their ramp-up of hostilities over the last 40 years. They always reset to their default position: Scared, hateful and assaultive. Ho-hum, what's new?

whether YOU or I believe in Biblical Prophecy does not matter one bit.

Muslims do believe it and for the second coming to occur there must be Armageddon first.

THAT IS WHY IRAN IS BUILDING NUKES

Wake up time boys and girls the barbarians are at the gates

President Barack Obama ordered his administration to do whatever is necessary to protect Americans abroad.

200 Marines in each embassy with orders to shoot to kill anyone coming over the walls is a good place to start.

Here's what American Muslims seem to think of the whole thing:

TheBlaze spoke with Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, author and president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy and Manda Zand Ervin, president of Alliance of Iranian Women. Both individuals expressed their dismay at the violent actions taken and called upon politicians and Muslims alike, to step up to prevent such behaviors from unfolding in the future.

Earlier today, TheBlaze also provided in-depth analysis about the film that sparked the Middle Eastern rampages. Despite claims that the movie led to the violence, some officials suspect that the 11th anniversary of the September 11 attacks was chosen well before the violence unfolded. Regardless, an anti-Muhammad and anti-Islam film called “Innocence of Muslims” — a project that was written and directed by a U.S. real estate developer named Sam Bacile – is being dubbed the catalyst for the attacks.

While Jasser hadn‘t yet watched the film’s 13-minute trailer when we interviewed him, Ervin finished viewing it just moments before we spoke. The Muslim-American admitted that it was certainly poking fun at Islam, but she dismissed it as mere comedy. She told TheBlaze that we live in the 21st century and that people need to realize that, with free speech sometimes comes unpleasant commentary.

“The way I looked at it — it was a comedy. It didn’t make any sense and so what,” she said of the movie in question. “I am a Muslim, but I am also an American and I have come to this country because of freedom of speech, freedom of assembly — all the freedoms that the 21st century is providing. Especially in this country.”

Modernity was a theme throughout her commentary, particularly when it came to the violent Middle Eastern response. Ervin lambasted the actions taken oversees and said that it showcases how the West is “failing to bring the Islamic world into the 21st century by catering to the lowest denomination.”

“I call it ‘cultural imperialism’ — that many, especially the left in this country, are catering to the lowest denomination,” she said, going on to claim that liberals don’t expect Muslims to understand free speech, so they end up protecting extremists and allowing the backwardness to continue.

“I think the attitude needs to be changed,” she added, giving her views on how to fix the situation. “Not catering to the worst, but helping and supporting the best — like us, the ones who are saying, ‘My religion is my religion, but I’m living in the 21st century.’”

Security forces had to fight off the protesters with tear gas and warning shots which managed to push them back more than 600 feet to Tahrir Square.

“Warning shots” for attacking a U S Embassy on U S soil? that in my opinion should be stopped, they started the attack, defending our own is not something I believe we should do by warning shots, our people die (in Benghazi) and it will cost billions to rebuild what they destroyed.

"I want to assure you we will bring their killers to justice and we want to send us a message all around the world to anyone who wants to do us harm. No act of terror will dim the light and the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America,"

While this sounds good to us here at home, these words have no meaning to those people, they have spent their entire lives being threatened, and so hollow words from some American president thousands of miles away carry no threat.

Muslims chanting "Death to America" outside the U.S. Embassy in Cairo

What is truly confusing is why we continue to support these people, some say so we can have a relation with them, but this type of relationship is bad for our health.

"MUW"said: It Was Another Al-Qaeda Attack In Libya Where Even NBC News Admitted Obama Was Secretly Supporting Them Just Last Month!

hey "MUW: Obama was secretly supporting the LYBIAN TRASITIONAL COUNCIL, I.E. the good guys, not any AlQueda nut-jobs (like yourself) you @#%$!-damned m0r0n. Have you ever heard/seen/read something without twisting it? Doubtful.

While firmly condemning these acts of violence, I do not think hurting religious feelings of others is freedom of speech. Especially, when it is a film produced by enemies of Islam. Abusing freedom of speech in the name of insulting Islam is not freedom of speech. Have you ever heard of muslims burning the Bible, insulting Jesus just to get attention? No, because we respect all prophets and all religious books. Now, I want you to chew on that for a minute. Think again. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Our religion does not allow us to insult our prophet, why would you do it? You are crossing our freedom line.

It would appear that the 'Arab Spring' that Obama supported is leading to an 'American Fall'. While anti-Americanism in the Middle East was common before, it was not as violently prevalent as it is now.

I wonder if Obama's forcing Mubarak out in Egypt was such a great idea after all.

Chris'Yucaipa: Sounds like the President is on the same page as you, or vice versa: he sent (activated)Marines, Spec Forces and SEALs around the world.

We're mad as hell and we're not going to take it any more!!

Islam has offended our dependest held convictions and faith in Freedom of Speech for the last time!

They don't like what others say? DONT LISTEN (not prove them right)

Let's stage our own protests- for Freedom of Speech! For 9/11 Victims!

If they want to behave like animals, by all means, let the slaughter begin!

I'm sure we have enough drones. We'll video tape & YouTube every decapitation.

Every mosque being burnt. We've been nice and even helped them, now let us show them what it means to be our enemy!

Americans hide no more!!

They are MORE THAN WELCOME to say they don't like it!

They are MORE THAN WELCOME to gather in protest!

They are NOT MORE THAN WELCOME to take lives!!!!

They are NOT MORE THAN WELCOME to damage property!!!!

To "prevent this" from happening in the future means one of 4 things:

1) No more free speech (not on my watch)

2) Complete subjugation to Islam (not on my watch)

3) Muslims getting a thicker skin (yeah right!)

4) Erradication of Islam

Vote for your choice! Act Accordingly! Maybe if they see their own families suffering consequences of their actions, they will develop the extra brain cells required to not partake in this type of behavior.

Nonsense GBaby....POMPUS Obama Has Known All Along He Was Supporting Al Qaeda In Libya and Now In Syria

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links....http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

Libya Rebel Leader Reportedly Has Al Qaeda Ties....http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/30/libya-rebel-leader-al-qaeda_n_941752.html

Libyan rebel's story shows links to Taliban, Al Qaeda, NATO....http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/17/world/la-fg-libya-qaeda-20110417

You can call a Turd (The LTC) A Roast Beef Sandwich But That Doesn't Make It So....Back Door Barry Knows EXACTLY Who & What He Has Been Doing Supporting Al Qaeda In Libya & Syria and the Real Question Should Be Why?

Last Time Bush-Wacker Barry Killed bin NOBODY To Get Out Of Impeachment Over Libya (but Provided No Proof Of The Deed) and Now He Is Attempting To Get Re-Elected To Cover-Up More Of His Failures!

Bingo.....Out Magically Pops Al Qaeda Once Again!

Psst Did You At Least Watch This PBS Documentary?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I

"Being in a minority, even in a minority of one, did not make you mad. There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you were not mad." ~George Orwell, 1984

Coral Taxi,

I am winning our discussion. Do you want me to copy and paste all of the Newsvine Posts I am talking about.

*****************Newsvine "Get Smarter Here" NOT*******************

Opinions not Facts, Popularity not Substance, Emotions not Logic, Laziness not Research, Academics not Experience, Censorship not Freedom of Speech, Ignorance not Knowledge, Appearances not Results, etc..

Here in the USA we have a thing called: :"Freedom of Speech".

The middle eastern Muslims still haven't figured that out! They're hell bent on telling us to shut up and quit showing films that may be humorous to some Americans but insolent to Muslims...

TOO BAD!!!!! You won't change America, we've never changed our desire for Freedom and Liberty!

If you want to change an American, you'll have better luck educating a Middle Eastern Muslim about respecting the rights of Americans and the American constitution!

They can scream, whine and protest all they want!! I won't have any part of them telling me what to do!!!!

I'm going to go look at the movie on U-Tube right now! It's my right! To hell with the ignorant Muslims!

La Liberte said:

While firmly condemning these acts of violence, I do not think hurting religious feelings of others is freedom of speech. Especially, when it is a film produced by enemies of Islam. Abusing freedom of speech in the name of insulting Islam is not freedom of speech. Have you ever heard of muslims burning the Bible, insulting Jesus just to get attention? No, because we respect all prophets and all religious books. Now, I want you to chew on that for a minute. Think again. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Our religion does not allow us to insult our prophet, why would you do it? You are crossing our freedom line.

Per Wikipedia under "United States free speech exceptions":

"Exceptions to free speech in the United States are limitations on the First Amendment's guarantee of free speech and expression as recognized by the United States Supreme Court. These exceptions have been created over time, based on certain types of speech and expression, and under different contexts. While freedom of speech in the United States is a constitutional right, these exceptions make that right a limited one.

Restrictions that are based on people's reactions to words include both instances of a complete exception, and cases of diminished protection. Speech that involves incitement, false statements of fact, obscenity, child pornography, threats, and speech owned by others are all completely exempt from First Amendment protections. Commercial advertising receives diminished, but not eliminated, protection."

Amanda

by the United States Supreme Court......these exceptions make that right a limited one.

Psst WHO GRANTED THEMSELVES THAT NOT RIGHT!

Look It Up.......

This Is EXACTLY What The 1st Amendment To The Constitution Says.........Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Nowhere Does The Constitution Say It Is Subject To Elected Or Appointed Demigods Reinterpretation! Actually It Absolutely says IT IS NOT Subject To Reinterpretation Under The 10th Amendment Of The Bill Of Rights and in Many Other Places In The Constitution Of The United States!

These Corporate Corrupted Criminal Politicans have seized Our Government By The Color Of Law Not The Constitution Of The United States!

Yet Magically Out Pops Your Kind Of "Poster" Always Supporting Anything The Obomination and The Rest Of His Bankster Gangsters Do Up To And Including Indefinite Detention and Assassination Of American Citizens!

Sorry We Are Tired Of Listening To Wall Street Trolls & Sock Puppets And There Is Absolutely No Excuse For Back Door Barry's Support Of Al Qaeda In Libya!

America Once Again....Refuse To Reward FAILURE Refuse To Re-Elect ANY Demo/Republo Incumbents....For They All Work For Their Wall Street Globalist....And None Of Them Work For US!

The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States among minority races! Yet, American’s posting comments in response to these events seem totally unaware that the vast majority of Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. The definition of an infidel is a 'non-believer?' In the event some may fail to understand the significance of that Islamic command, all followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of their faith so they can have a place in heaven. In effect they have been commanded to kill everyone in this chat who is not a Muslim. How does that make you feel???

I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those not of your faith or Dr. Chas. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee themselves a place in heaven!'

I also have a problem pretending to be a friend to Islamic leaders who are telling their followers to kill me! Based on policy endorsed by Obama and other liberals there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect a President in twenty years. Islam’s Sharia Law which promotes a prime directive found in the Koran ordering followers to: “Seek out, find and kill all non-believers.” Muslims are overtaking and destroying countries like France, Holland, Belgium, Norway, sweden and the United Kingdom.

It is this very Sharia Law that dictates beheadings, female genital mutilation, stoning of women for adultery, honor killings, forced and arranged marriages, women cannot leave their house without a family male escort, separated swim times at pools for males and females and complete subjugation of women by men. Homosexuals are to be killed. Abortion is haram and not allowed in Islam, but Muslim are allowed to kill their daughter if she refuses to marry the man they had chosen for her. Muslims hold to a belief that that it is permissible to steal money
and property from non-Muslims in order to distribute it, but if they steal from each other the offender’s hands are to be cut off.

Yet, American’s are so ignorant they are not even aware of the truth of Islam’s Sharia Law. They spend their time attacking Romney and supporting Obama from a position of total utter ignorance. To the liberals in this chat, I hope you enjoy your future life under Obama and Sharia Law.

The ignorance among single issue constituency liberals never ceases to amaze me!

Wake up America!

Did anyone ever see Monty Python's movie "The Life of Brian"? - Funny, but we never saw any Christians attacking British embassies because of it.

These people are out of their frigging minds - They're seriously messed up in the head.

Enough is enough already! - We really need to start increasing the safe harvesting, production and distribution of our own natural energy here in the USA, rather than paying for fuel from countries where they hate us. - Let’s keep that money and those jobs here in the US.

Drilling here at home might not be the whole answer, but it's certainly a good place to start.

sharriannie-

the u.s. needs to get the hell out of the middle east. CUT OFF ALL FOREIGN AID, bring all our military home, protect our boards and tell the rest of the world you're on you own!!!!

And close ambassies, as it threatens our freedom of speech here in America (I see many criticizing the guy who made the movie, calling him an idiot, and blaming him for the murders, while he had all rights to express his opinion, and make a movie, about Muhammad). The ambassies' personel become hostages whenever someone here does or say something that offends extremist muslims over there. We cannot let these fanatics dictate what we can and cannot say or do.

"Family Guy and South Park? Watch out Beavis and Butthead - your sexist ways will catch up to you too."

I can see your Mom let you outside again without your helmet and big-girl panties, I see..

As far as the 700th Club and Other TV Evangelists go.. I don't watch them.. I actually go to Church.. TV evangelists in my opinion are no different than actors in infomercials.. Wanting money and selling you false products..

We can drill through glass! A show of force is really really needed if we wish to keep living free.

No Eric - Obama appeasement and apology tour is flaming the Middle East. Obama's Arab Spring will be his undoing just like Carter's backing the radials in overthrowing the Shah of Iran. Maybe Obama shouldn't have spiked the football at the DNC last week I do believe the crowd in Cairo was yelling Obama Obama we are Osama. But a left wing troll like you can't handle the true.

Man these birthers can be really annoying!!! Ever feel like stickin a boot down their throats and a corndog up their asses so they can shut up? They are no different from the rest of the terrorists of the middle east....

Cant miss one with all the tinfoil hats, bad breath, lies and all....even my horse Big Tex is havin a hard time telling apart an ass donkey from one of them birthers...

If it smell, talks and look like ass, must be a teabaggin birther....

I can't stand birthers.......go away!

Yet, somehow that Psycho got 4 votes up. Scary.

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” quote from page 261 of “The Audacity of Hope” by America’s first (and hopefully last) Muslim POTUS

~Barrack Hussain Obama.

Does anyone expect anything different from Obama? His failed Presidency has shown we should start looking at people more closely instead of listening to their snake oil salesman BS. Bill Clinton was that way and was Impeached by the congress and disbarred as a liar by the U.S. Supreme Court. Then he stands up for Obama at the DNC. Great character reference! But then again it is like talking to the wall when you are a socialist and believe in the communist ideas which Obama believes in. The country is circle the drain and the Demon-crats are pissing on our back and telling us its raining.

With this weak President, we continue to show our weakness and our enemies love it.

Romney would have the US back in wars all over the ME and Northern Africa - but he's send our kids, not his 5 sons.
PULL OUT of the whole area and let the chips fall where they may. No more embassies. If any of them use nukes on each other, take them out with ours and allow the rest to continue their party sure to go back to the Stone Age. Freeze travel - none into the US. We have 2 oceans as a barrier, only the Canadian border would be a real threat, as they'll let anyone immigrate.

If the US is attacked, repeat air strikes until their "country of origin" is glass.

You people with your "failed Presidency" b.s. never fail to boggle the mind. Any business owners on here? If you were handed a bankrupt company (insert country) fighting a hostile takeover, how long would it take you to recover? If your board was doing nothing but saying no, no, no, and not getting a fracking thing done, how quickly could any of you recover from that? Anyone that says Obama ruined the economy tags themselves instantly as ignorant, never to be undone. That is a fact and it looks like a whole lot of folks on here say that. Whether they believe it or not is another issue, but the hate flowing in this country is unbelievable.

Romney using the death of a U.S. citizen for a sound bite is disgusting and Republican to the core. If anyone thinks it's o.k. to make a movie that will get Americans killed (no matter how ridiculous it is that people will kill over a movie) also tag themselves, completely ignorant. If you want to insult something that people love, you go do it in person so our people over there don't have to cash the check you wrote with your bull@!$%#, with their blood. If someone made a movie about your Mom, portraying her as a whore, and an idiot, tell me how you would feel about that person. Most Americans don't believe strongly enough in one entity, their Mom, their God etc to kill someone for insulting that entity but here's a news flash, ALL PEOPLE AREN'T AS RESTRAINED AS US! Understand?

To summarize:

People in other countries aren't like us.

When we insult peoples' Gods the will get pissed and want to kill us.

Insulting peoples' Gods is kinda stupid.

Saying so does not mean your "apologizing to the killers"

Mitt Romney is a religious fanatic that has no business criticizing Obama for someone elses statement. Let alone running this country. IMO

We need a Reagan response. Find some high ranking person with some responsibility for this and take out their home. This shut down Khadafi for quite a while after Lockerbie.

It is amazing this action occurs during an election year, and on the anniversary of 911. The parties go after each other instead of support Acton's that are related to hate and support of death, peace and tolerance for religious belief, and a higher power on my cal God something our Nation (USA) was founded on. Find The idiot's that made the film, they created hate and injustice for mankind. It it not about Democrats or republicans. It is about hate and ignorance.

Obama is bringing his people to America by the millions!

HChick, I'm just going to take a shot in the dark by suggesting you took the qoute totally out of context.

OBAMA: Romney shoots first and aims second.

What do you do OBAMA?

OBAMA: I allow millions of illegal aliens from Mexico to have diplomatic immunity from all the crimes they commit against the American people.

harley....good quote!! Where is our President???

........Our fearless leader, the chosen one, the messiah --only has the Barney Fife type of security....Americans can only shoot beanbags.. not even a bullet in the pocket...ask the parents of dead Agent Brain Terry!!

If armed Marines had of been the security, the headlines would be...Americans kill, rape and mutilate defenseless children and women...Ask Jon Kerry about his lies to congress in 1971!!!!. Anti-Americans show up in many forms...ETERNAL VIGILANCE is required and all due caution afforded by our leaders!!!!

Our fearless leader, the chosen one, the messiah --only has the Barney Fife type of security(except for himself)....Americans can only shoot beanbags.. not even a bullet in the pocket...ask the parents of dead HERO -Agent Brain Terry!!

If armed Marines had of been the security, the headlines would be...Americans kill, rape and mutilate defenseless children and women...Ask Jon Kerry ( UNFIT FOR COMMAND) about his lies to congress in 1971!!!!. Anti-Americans show up in many forms...ETERNAL VIGILANCE is required and all due caution expected to be afforded by our leaders!!!! THAT is too much to ask of the Chicago MOB!!!

Jeff; connect the dots - Terry Jones goes rogue and people die - happens every time. They needed an excuse and dumb ass Terry delivered...again.

Jeff: right on-right on! If violence they want...then let's give them violence. and not just a slap in the kisser. If they kill one, we hit, 10, if they kill 10, we hit back with a 1000. If they burn down an embaassy, we take out a village or city that is real strength of force. It shows, you don't f--- with us. and screw the boo-hoo libs with appeasement. remember chamberlin. "peace in our time." Hitler blew the hell out of England. Remember Pearl Harbor. the japanese awakened a sleeping giant. Sometimes we need a good wakeup call to get our minds right.

Islam and Muslims hated the US LONG before Terry Jones was ever conceived.

There is a difference between a REASON and an EXCUSE.

Jeff: right on-right on! If violence they want...then let's give them violence. and not just a slap in the kisser.

Violence just begets more violence. It's a vicious unending cycle. We have to come up with a peaceful way to end this horrible cycle we keep perpetrating.

Jeff N.-1053549 is quite correct in this instance; turning the other cheek does not work with people who have no concept of civil responsibility or personal freedom. To them, freedom is equivalent to anarchy. These people live under varying degrees of dictatorship, from their political leaders and from their religious leaders. THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO BE EASILY LED AND THEY WILL RESPECT FORCE ONLY.

Imagine how their leaders would respond if this sort of protest were directed toward the leaders.

We can drill through glass! A show of force is really really needed if we wish to keep living free.

J_P_PatchesPal_1

So you are blaming Terry Jones for firing a rocket propelled grenade into the embassy, killing the ambassador and several state department workers?

The people who pulled the trigger are to blame and nobody else.

The Islamicists condemn and criticize my values, such as freedom, free thinking, reason, music, dogs as pets, the food I eat, the women I dated, the parties I attended, my lack of religious faith, etc...I don't recall being so deeply offended that I fired a missile into the Libyan embassy.

If we adjust, then we are admitting the Islam is beyond reproach, and it clearly is not. If their values are offended by the values that I hold high, then it may lead to war, especially if Islam is so willing to kill innocent people. I will not compromise my right to be a skeptic or to criticize. The movie was have been ameteur, and nobody watched it...until the hypersensitive and vain Muslims were offended. If you don't like a movie then don't watch it, or simply criticize it, don't kill innocent people or the insult is confirmed.

JeffN; I'll have to disagree with you - reason and excuse go hand in hand...if you already know the reason, then you are pretty stupid to just hand them an excuse.

Charles; I don't stoop to tit-for-tat. I don't see one bit of difference in the history of how these religious groups gained power in the first place. You can go on forever trying to say who threw the first stone. Politicians are not going to change how these people think - it is up to their leaders to confront the flocks of all religions and find a solution...and it sure as hell isn't the responsibility of the US government to decide who is right. Throwing money at the problem isn't working, be it diplomacy or wars.

Are you offering up your children to go do religious battle...nope, but you will be happy to send minorities and the poor.

Democrats not voting for Oblahblah

Enough lies from Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After reading your same "cut and paste" post 5 or more times, it's getting pretty old. And by the sixth time it is just as false as the first time you posted it. If you can't come up with something original, step back from your keyboard!

Just an observation; someone appears to be a tad unstable.

I'm don't think Obama is a Muslim hoever he does seem to placate these groups and make America look weak on a global level.

what kind of person actually deletes a comment. If this guy, democrat not voting for obama, is ignorant enough to write something so stupid, let is stand their so people can read how uneducated america is and need to spend money on it instead of useless wars that gets us nothing but death and debt

appraiser, he seems to? he does...............sad but true,

Ahhh yes, Yet move of those loving, kind and tolerant Muslimes. Riot, murder and pillage at the slightest insult, real or imagined. Insult Mohammed, kill people, insult Islame, kill people, Hear a rumor of an insult, burn embassies and kill people. Yes, the modern Muslime is just a pillar of tolerance. Funny how it's always said to be the few, but the Muslime turns out like lemmings to celebrate these attacks in the streets, from kids to elders, all out celebrating. It isn't the few, it's the religion and it's principles.

Time to stop ALL foreign aid to Muslime countries, stop ALL visa's and asylum for Muslimes, Stop Muslimes from entering the U.S. and purge the U.S. of all non native Muslimes. Close all our embassies and watch the middle east burn. After six months or a year, when they are starving and destitute, perhaps then they can behave in a more civilized manner. Then give it a few more years to become engrained, and so they can reduce their own excess population, they love to kill each other anyway.

OHBLAHBLAH, Take 200 valium and call me in the morning.

J_P_PatchesPal_1

JeffN; I'll have to disagree with you - reason and excuse go hand in hand...if you already know the reason, then you are pretty stupid to just hand them an excuse.

A “reason” is an explanation for why something is the way it is, with everyone involved taking accountability for their part in a situation. An excuse is an explanation for why something is the way it is, that always involves the blame being put on someone or something that isn’t involved in the conversation, and not able to share their side of the story. What’s the difference? The accountability.

As you can see Reason and Excuse go hand in hand like Ice cream and Tuna Fish.....

But first we need to pump out all their oil

Ryan in TX:

Please think again; there is nothing "holy" about Muslim or any other land. When you buy into the fiction that some piece of land is "holy", you also buy into the irrational nonsense that is fueling this type of mob action.

Obama is LYING

Our Soldiers are Dying

Our Women and Children are CRYING

Time to Vote for Romney and Ryan

Whether or not it's a "holy war" they are saying because an American posted a film about their "Prophet" they murder American Embassy staff.. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING RETALLIATORY.. Whether it be stopping aide, arresting those responsible, or at last scenerio bombing the crap out of the extremists..

jimmyfox, who are you going to vote for, Mitts and ryan? They want to go to war with syria and Iran, and all the rest of the middle east so more soldiers can die? Really thats what you want???

Jimmyfox

Romney war chant,

Tippecanoe and Tyler too, I've got mine and I want yours too!

Laulaus, i think we should do all three of your suggestions.

Ryan in TX (#6):

You summed it up perfectly.

The time is long overdue to get out of there--COMPLETELY!!!

Obama cut and ran from Iraq and is noe cutting and running from Afghanistan so why not cut and run from all the rest

You could say Obama "cut and ran", we have had enough, or you could say he brought people's sons and daughters home from a place they should not have been. Were you or any of your children there? Since only 1% serve, there is a 99% chance that you or none of your loved ones served in these wars. Bring Back the Draft!

whhe

I believe there are daily embarking flight's to both Iraq, and Afghanistan. If you feel you can make a difference over there; I urge you to book a flight shortly.

These arguments are petty. Above one argues that Obama should get the credit for killing OBL because he is the leader who had to make all the decisions. Now the attack on Romney because he didn't serve. Neither have served in the military. I thank all of our soldiers in all branches serving in some very difficult places in some very sketchy situations. We need to get our soldiers out of the Middle East and let some of these fanatics take each other out. We send soldiers with our checks and we get both cheeks smacked. The leadership in many of these countries tell our leaders what they want to hear and secretly let these fanatical groups thrive. No money, no soldiers, no bull@!$%#.

also agree! We'll have IRESPOND-2315268 be the first one to stand in line and save us from ourselves!!! Show us all a bit of that CUT AND RUN!!!

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT iam not asking the president to kill innocents. I believe in RESPECTING OTHERS, AND DIPLOMACY.

Irespond:Your Democrats are just as guilty of being draft dodgers,remember they were the ones giving them amnesty just like now with the illegals in this Country.Democrats don't understand the words ILLEGAL and Draft Dodgers who fled the country !!!!!! You must be one of them,did you ever serve in the military????