Glen Doherty, a former Navy SEAL, was working as a security contractor in Libya when a group of militants stormed the Benghazi consulate. NBC's Katy Tur reports.
Updated at 10:27 p.m. ET: Two former Navy SEALs were identified Thursday as the third and fourth victims of the attack on a U.S. consulate in Libya this week that also killed the U.S. ambassador.
U.S. officials and family members identified the men as Glen Doherty, 42, a native of Winchester, Mass., and Tyrone S. Woods, 41. Details of how they died haven't been made public.
The men were working as private security specialists for the U.S. government when militants attacked the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi on Tuesday night. In all, four Americans were killed; the others were previously identified as the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, and Sean Smith, an information management officer.
Libyan authorities said Thursday that they had arrested four men in connection with the attack but gave no further details.
In a statement Thursday evening, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Woods was known to his family and friends as "Rone" that and they they relied on "his courage and skill, honed over two decades as a Navy SEAL."
Woods, who was also a registered nurse and certified paramedic, served several tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and had been protecting U.S. diplomatic personnel in dangerous posts from Central America to the Middle East, Clinton said.
He was married to a dentist named Dorothy and had three sons: Tyrone, Jr., Hunter and Kai, who was several months old.
Defense Department records listed Wood's residence as Portland, Ore., but NBC station KNSD of San Diego and numerous other reports from the area said he lived in Imperial Beach, Calif., where he settled after leaving the Navy and for a time owned a pub called the Salty Frog.
His death was confirmed by his ex-wife, Patty So of San Diego, who was notified by the U.S. government.
Movie-fueled protests spread in Middle East
"He was the greatest Navy SEAL. Nobody was more skilled than him," said So, the mother of Woods' two teenage sons. "He loved being a SEAL more than life itself."
Doherty — known to friends and family as "Bub," according to Clinton — was described as a highly trained marksman and security expert who "lived life to the fullest." He was also an experienced paramedic.
Katie Quigley, the sister of Glen Doherty, one of the Americans killed in Libya, talks about her brother.
"Glen lived his life to the fullest. He was my brother, but if you asked his friends, he was their brother, as well," his sister, Katie Quigley of Marblehead, Mass., said Thursday.
Doherty joined the Navy in his late 20s after having attended flight school and worked as a ski instructor. A skilled pilot, master marksman and medical corpsman, Doherty was a member of the elite Sea, Air and Land (SEAL) special operations corps for nine years before he left the Navy in 2005.
Kokoro Camp Trainer of Encinitas, Calif., where Doherty worked as a fitness trainer, said that as a civilian, Doherty continued to take assignments in security and intelligence for various U.S. government agencies, serving in Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan and Afghanistan, as well as Libya.
In Libya, Doherty "was protecting the ambassador and also helping the wounded" when he was killed, Quigley said.
Doherty co-wrote the book "21st Century Sniper: A Complete Practical Guide" with another former SEAL, Brandon Webb, who called him "one of the finest human beings I've ever known."
"He died serving with men he respected, protecting the freedoms we enjoy as Americans and doing something he loved," Webb said.
In 2009, Doherty was featured in an episode of the NBC-TV reality series "The Wanted," in which intelligence and military experts and investigative journalists sought to track down suspected terrorists.
In the episode, Scott Tyler, a fellow former SEAL, endorses Doherty's marksmanship and describes him as "highly recommended from people I trust in my community."
Doherty and other operatives hunted a suspected terrorist in Norway for extradition to Iraq. Doherty devised the surveillance plan, using miniature cameras hidden outside the suspect's home in Oslo.
Security forces faced violent protests in Egypt and Yemen spurred by angry mobs accusing the U.S. of insulting the prophet Muhammad. NBC's Richard Engel reports.
Doherty was interviewed on screen discussing surveillance techniques and the importance of maintaining focus in a dangerous situation.
It's "a good thing to just read all of the people in the neighborhood and just try to be hyperaware of what's happening," he said. "It's not like you see on TV ... You focus on the mission. That's it."
Quigley said the attack on the consulate had to have been extremely violent and well-coordinated, because "Glen was highly trained. He was the best of the best."
"This was serious, well-planned, well-executed," she told NBC station KNSD-TV of San Diego. "He was very good at what he did."
More world stories from NBC News:
- Protesters storm US Embassy in Yemeni capital
- Libya pledges to help US catch American officials' killers
- US won't rule out Islamist link in killing of US ambassador to Libya
- US Ambassador Chris Stevens was 'courageous and exemplary,' Obama says
- Despite dark past, young Israelis seek new lives in German capital
- No Obama-Netanyahu meeting as rift over Iran widens


The American people are not as shallow as the news cycle. They care deeply for the security of our diplomats. There will be accountability.
I hope so !
have you heard the latest news about the creator of that video ? A Coptic christian from Egypt caused this , he was not an american at all , he just happened to be here .
Adwaup,
"A Coptic christian from Egypt caused this , he was not an american at all , he just happened to be here ."
And he didn't do his fellow Coptic Christians who are still living in Egypt any favors by doing this, either, now that the cat is out of the bag. If the Muslims in Egypt find out, and they will, that it was a Coptic Christian who insulted their prophet, well... Let's just say if times were bad for Coptic Christians before, they may get a lot worse still.
Condolences to the families, friends and colleagues of the brave Americans lost.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
This type of horrific action is a direct result of the limp wristed Obama policy and apology tours. Essentially, radicals are encouraged to take such action against our country when the president makes a concerted effort to apologize for our country's history as the world's policeman and a force for liberty around the world. Obama projects an image of weakness and incompetence to former allies and enemies of America. Personally, I believe this is part of his broader plan to marginalize America wherever and whenever possible. At home he has lead America down a path of economic destruction with what will likely go down in history as the most reckless fiscal policy in the industrialized world!
Some Americans posting comments in response to these events seem totally unaware that the vast majority of Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. The definition of an infidel is a 'non-believer?' In the event some may fail to understand the significance of that Islamic command, all followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of their faith so they can have a place in heaven. In effect they have been commanded to kill everyone in this chat who is not a Muslim. How does that make you feel?
I also have a problem pretending to be a friend to Islamic leaders who are telling their followers to kill me! Islam's Sharia Law promotes a prime directive found in the Koran ordering followers to: "Seek out, find and kill all non-believers." Muslims are overtaking and destroying countries like France, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Sweden and the United Kingdom. It is this very Sharia Law that dictates beheadings, female genital mutilation, stoning of women for adultery, honor killings, forced and arranged marriages, women cannot leave their house without a family male escort, separated swim times at pools for males and females and complete subjugation of women by men. Homosexuals are to be killed. Abortion is haram and not allowed in Islam, but Muslim are allowed to kill their daughter if she refuses to marry the man they had chosen for her. Muslims hold to a belief that that it is permissible to steal money and property from non-Muslims in order to distribute it, but if they steal from each other the offender's hands are to be cut off.
It is said that Obama is the only president in memory who does not even take the time to read presidential security briefings. So, why should we be surprised these things happen on his watch!
Appears to be a speciality of this administration of having US military members killed by Muslim terrorists. Amazing - wonder if obama will apologize to the Libyans for getting /Americans blood all over their ground or just set up more Americans to be murdered by the radical Muslim terrorists groups he placed in power in Libya, Egypt and Tunisia
You right wing extremists are sick. And you need to seek medical help. Say,know what happens if you go too far Right?
FASCIST. Is what happens
Your making real Christians look pretty bad so crawl back under the rock where you came from.
This not about some video. It's about the Muslim Brotherhood who we are funding in these Arabic Countries.
I should point out that everything ClearVoice2 said is a lie. It is pure propaganda designed to manipulate the small minded and weak willed.
You do know that the 2 ex Seals would be working for the State Dept through what used to be Blackwater right?
Whatever name they use this week Xe I think...
Again, people blaming the guy who made a movie instead of blaming the murderers.
I don't care if the guy was an Egyptian living here, or if he had been an atheist living in Switzerland, and I don't care how insulting his movie is, he had the right to make this movie, just as everyone has the right to criticize Muhammad or Jesus, or any other religious figure.
To be offended by this movie as a muslim is understandable, even protesting peacefully against the movie is acceptable, but no one should ever have to fear for their life because they expressed themselves (through a movie or anything else), but as it is now no one can say a bad word about Muhammad without having fatwas declared against them and putting their life in danger.
Muslims and non-muslims, stand together against extremists, protect our freedom of speech.
no, raging muslims did this. the video had nothing to do with the attacks on our soil, it was already planned prior and the video was used as cover -the protests. do you think it was just a coincidence it happened on 9-11? this is another attack on america by jihadists and obama is still campaigning while americans die.
obama cant even bring himself to address the nation about these acts of war, campaigning must be more important than being a leader and protecting america and its citizens and yet people will defend his inaction.
Curious if Marines, if any, were not allowed ammunition as the ones in Egypt were?
2 more good Americans killed by these savages, assisted in gaining power by Obama, apologized to by Hillary.
And people actually support these putrid people in their attempt to retain office. A sad place this country has come to.
What can I say but........................I totally agree.
boy I hope so, those people who went into the Consulate were on American soil, those people are nothing but animalls.
Swagg
Just like Mr W Bush did and said watch me drive this golf ball. You know in Fahrenheit 911
Where was this outrage when we all found out that Iraq was a lie and how many thousands of our treasured soldiers died. Remember this Bush lied and soldiers died.
Use your head buddy,President Obama didn't do this. Terrorists did this. Just like they did when President Bush was in office!!!
Egypt is not our ally, Egypt is not our enemy.
Egypt is not our ally, Egypt is not our enemy.
Egypt is not our ally, Egypt is not our enemy.
Egypt is not our ally, Egypt is not our enemy.
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Who was in that empty chair?
notacommie
But you are a Fascist aren't you? And a paid Robmee blogger!!
Obama fail, he did not answer the call at 3 AM. We need a Commander in Chief, not a Campaigner in Chief.
Obama = Carter
Answer: a man with an obviously empty head.
While I am with you in the belief that a video should never be the cause of murder , and that those pieces of crap that did the murders should be killed in a very slow manner IMO . However the instigator of the turmoil itself was not an american and yet they killed Americans over it .
I for one would love to see us just drop all aid to Libya and Egypt over this , but then again I would like to see all aid dropped from all the countries of the world that kill our people without persecution (like Pakistan , Afghanistan , Yemen , to name a few) .
An act of war was commited, Americans were murdered, our Flag burned, and the left-wing dolts want to deflect and BLAME the right over what is being said? Atta Boy M0rons! .... Pull that head out. This is that 3 AM wake up call for Obama & like most everything else, he's screwed the pooch like the amateur he is. It's time, past time, to kick his sorry butt to the curb. Obama totally blew it by ignoring the warnings Israel gave him. He has blood on his hands now. The buck stops here!
Hey dope lib's.. You are not getting the truth here on MSNBC or the main stream media. They are bought off just like most of the first responders on these political articles. They either work for the MSNBC rag or they work for the Hussein administration. You want the truth?? Sign up for GBTV or The Blaze, whatever it is called now, because that is where you will get the TRUTH. And you lib's.....don't bother attacking me.....because I know were to get the TRUTH. You guys are bought off and terribly delusional.
This is just further proof that Obama knows nothing about foreign policy. Obama says if he gets re-elected he will be a strong leader in the middle east. How about you stop waiting and start being that leader now instead of giving us worthless words. Obama is the weakest president since Carter. In fact in many ways I think he is worse. We even had previous warning of the attack and yet Obama did nothing.
You add up everything he has messed up in the middle east and the bad policies here at home, another threat of a debt downgrade by Moodys and we have a coming disaster again. I wish people would wake up and see the guy that they think walks on water really is harming our country.
I used to wonder why Muslim countries as far back as the 1960's would send young people to the US to study law, I would wonder why because that is something totally worthless to apply in their country's but it was common to find Muslims in US colleges studying American Law even 40 years ago and a good number of them. well now that time has passed it is making some sense we now have a influx of Muslims moving to this country and they want special applications of the law to work for them in establishing their own Sharia law and undermining the US law that already exist. Point being this is a world takeover they never stopped the Crusades they simply expanded the tactics and are attempting to out maneuver the rest of the world the fact is that Islam is bad chemistry it does not mix with any other Element without eventually becoming unstable and blowing up in your face, it is time to halt the migration before the elements reach a volatile state. a few Muslims will never be a problem but a bunch of Muslims will bring this problem right in to your neighborhood, reason being they get stronger with numbers, they will demand more and they multiply like Rabbits. wake up its bad chemistry. Do not try to mix Nitro with Glycerin you don't know what you are doing. besides they have a higher rate of killing then any other race on the planet they just have to do it, even to their own family members, its their religion, they kill for any reason, I'll bet you that the Ambassador they killed only tried to do good to them that is how some of them reward good deeds, its a honor thing coming from a people that have no honor, they do not know what honor is, Islam is anything but honor, honor is forgiving and understanding, honor is getting the facts before you charge off on a killing rampage. honor is your own self respect. they think its all about killing, there is no honor in killing. they killed a innocent man and they are proud of it, they would have killed more if they could, and they will kill more if they can. it may only be a few of them but that is all it takes, they are a noxious infestation as their population grows so does the evil element.
It is sad to hear all you bringing up politics at the expense of the people who died. Instead of getting together and help, we are fighting each other. When 9/11 happened, nobody went against Bush right away but everyone, all democrats, supported him, even though it lead to fighting the wrong country. Republicans, are now attacking Obama left and right, without even giving him a chance. Instead of supporting him, giving him advice at how to respond to the events, they are putting him down and probably praying for the situation to get worse so Romney can get a chance at the polls. Obama, poor guy has to defend himself from republicans, instead of focusing at protecting our embassies. This is not at all American, people. Get yourself together and act like as one nation.
No more than it was the cause of attacks on Americans, American bases, American embassies/consulates, etc since the Carter administration.
As long as obumbo caters to the POS muslims we will have this BS. Get rid of obumbo and his muslim buddies and America will be better off.
Mitt/Paul 2012 To bring America back to reality.
oskar-1391552 ...(#1.19)..."Obama fail, he did not answer the call at 3 AM. We need a Commander in Chief, not a Campaigner in Chief.
Obama = Carter"
I thought of that 2008 Campaign commercial too.....Obama's Crackberry went right to Call Forwarding to Hillary at the State Department.....Neither one answered....The Embassy in Cairo issues their own apology....Tweets a Confirmation of it....Romney issues statement based on Embassy Statements....WhiteHouse and State Department disavow those "Unauthorized" Statements....
Hillary doubles down that this is about some dumb old youtube video.....How pathetic...It was 9/11 you idiots in charge !!!
And the Obama Mania Media conspire to jump all over Romney????
Learning now that 2 Former Navy SEALS were also killed has just got to be icing on the cake for the murderous bastards....
Here are the Photos I doubt you'll find anywhere on MSNBC....Take good long look at # 16.....Where was his State Department protection ??? ...He didn't give his life for his country....he was MURDERED....Our Troops often lay down their lives in the service of the Country...They know it when they volunteer....:
Slideshow:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/slideshow/2012/09/11/protesters-storm-us-embassy-in-cairo/#slide=1
#16:....Dead or Alive it asks...Looks to me like he was still alive....Dead people don't hold their heads up...
http://www.foxnews.com/world/slideshow/2012/09/11/protesters-storm-us-embassy-in-cairo/#slide=16
Obama and Hillary slept while The Ambassador was being dragged through the streets.
These attacks had NOTHING to do with a MOVIE. That was the cover. They were obviously coordinated attacks by Muslim extremists on our embassies...
The questions remain:
Why wasn't security beefed up on 9/11? Was there any prior intelligence on the attacks? What did the State Department know in advance? What exactly happened?
Unfortunately, the old media guard is complicit in protecting Obama and working to shore up his re-election chances. He SCREWED up, or Secretary Clinton did or BOTH.
This had little to do with the movie. What the media is ignoring is that this was a well planned response on 9/11. The Muslim Brotherhood in both countries had their clerics promote the violence and the violence was directed specifically as a tribute to 9/11. Thus the importance of the flags being raised at each location vs. just setting fires and the ambassador being dragged through the streets just like they did in Iraq. The media has also ignored the protests/anniversary celebrations in other Muslim countries by trying to pass it off as they're just upset over the video. BS. They (Egypt, Libya, Gaza, Indonesia, Yemen, etc. etc.) are celebrating the attack on the US and their governments are happy to collect the billions of dollars from our government in one hand only to stab us in the back with the other. If our politicians can't see that then they are fools. Even former Democratic Governor Graham said that the 9/11 commission report was censured for diplomatic reasons so as not to embarrass out so called "friends" in the region.
LOL. They already forgot why all this happened (not the lame excuse of a youtube video). Former Allies President Gaddaffi, President Mubarak, President Saleh would have been killing off these Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists before they even started to try to create a Civil War; but, no President Obama and Sh!t On A Shingle (SOS) Clinton had to stick their noses all the way up that arse, especially the conviently forgotten Failed President Obama March 2009 Iran Policy that let the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran overtly and covertly support the Overthrows of US Allies Worldwide.
After they get some killed. Tell that to the Families of the Deceased.
They will just get together a few scapegoats and sacrificial lambs and say see, see, we help Oooosa ("U" Stupid of America). With these scapegoats and sacrificial lambs ending up with a better life than they currently have at the expense of Oooosa Taxpayers, and more than likely their families being taken care of forever as the families of Islamic Superstars.
Most of you say that "they live in the Stone Ages", lol, and now you say that they saw the youtube videos. What happens, just like when we were sitting in the Mosques at Afghanistan during the Threat to burn the Holy Koran (Quran), is that the Imams at the Mosques start screaming and foaming at the mouth inciting all their Loyal Fundamentalist Islamic Believers to Riot or else (your peers will do a beat down on your arse). The Imams were screaming that the enemy Islam had already burned the Holy Koran (Quran).
The US and US Allies are losing the Asymmetric War as demanded by the 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran (Quran) that Calls All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers, participation of All Islamic Believers is Mandatory or "dwell in that firey place". And the US and US Allies are sitting around like sheep to the slaughter, wondering what the f**k is happening bah, bah, bah.
You can see this in most posts marginalizing the extent of this by saying "Radicals", "Extremists", etc. as if there are only a few that are doing the above Asymmetric War as required by current Islamic Laws.
It has been common for Fundamentalist Islam (Shia) to "Shoot First as the Dead do not Complain", this is why they are the Majority as the now minority Sunnis attempt to negotiate with Empty Words the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia shoot them in the face, end of negotiations and begging for their lives. So the Majority of the 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide are Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (aka Sharia).
The other excuse used, like when I was a UN/UA (African Union) Observer was, "You are here so I (Fundamentalist Islamic Arabic Omani Muslims) killed them (innocent men, women, children).........It is your fault".
All of your Politically Correct Academic Idealism has NO place in the Real World Life or Death School of Hard Knocks, unless you want to be nominated for the Darwin Award.
Am I attempting to "incite" all of you, NO, those are the Facts from living with the Islamic Believers ever since the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone. Even attempting to "incite" all of you would be like _____fill in the blank_____as a useless too late cause.
Just like the USMC, once a Marine always a Marine. This is even mores so for the US Military Strategic Joint Asymmetric Warfare Forces as after decades of experience that shaped their lives Once a USN SEAL always a USN SEAL. US Army Special Forces same thing. USAF Special Operations same thing. CIA's SAD/SOG same thing.
Rest easy, unlike the scapegoats presented by the Fundamentalist Islamic Governments, the US Military Joint Asymmetric Warfare Forces will keep searching for those responsible even if it takes decades of our lives.
They knew who they were putting into Power and who they were removing. The US Ally Saudi Arabia Intelligence and the US Ally Israelis Intelligence told them about the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood (so Fundamentalist Islamic that the Islamic Nation of Egypt made them Illegal), and their Alliance with the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran.
And Libya: Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Syria (AQS), Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Fundamentalist Islamic Hezbollah, Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Fundamentalist Islamic Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) aka the New Libyan Government, etc.
And now the new "Faction" (large group) Fundamentalist Islamic Redacted at Libya.
and how many lives do you think the average U S Seal has taken in their career - what goes around comes around.
The Cause; an irresponsible movie of hate - the Affect; more hate..not to hard to comprehend, that is until you interject your own politics. Some of you make things far too complex - last I checked humans were pretty simple creatures.
The media is desperately covering for Obama, as usual. Focus on Romney and ignore the timeline and the events. Notice that this site has no real stories about the incident? It should still be front page news along with the embassy attacks in several countries and instead what do you get, lame stories about celebrities and no real coverage of what happened. The mainstream media is a joke, a dinosaur that has outlived anything but being propaganda machines for Obama. You have to go to alternative or foreign news sites to get any real information, much like what happened with Fast and Furious.
It now appears that the administration had 48 hours advance notice and ignored it. Obama is too busy pimping for the campaign to pay attention to the state of the country. Foreign affairs can take a backseat to his appearing with Beyonce and Letterman and some DJ. He's far too busy to meet with Netanyahu but he extends a welcoming hand to the Muslim Brotherhood.
It is time to ignore his supporters, they are beyond hope, they are the followers of Jim Jones and they drink mightly of the Obama flavored Kool-Aid. Murdering a US Ambassador and several Americans is bad enough but to ignore warnings, to ignore or refuse to meet with national security personnel and then to have something like this happen? Apparently Obama figures the propaganda machine will cover for him.
This is from the UK:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news-world-politics/revealed-inside-story-of-the-US-envoys-assassination-8135797/htm
mygirl; last time I checked the same Kool-aid was being served on the tables of both parties.
Emotional posts don't sway logical minds - some of you really must hate the great minds of the past...can you say anti philosophy?
Kool-aid gets a bad rap - it's much better than Tang.
All I can say (LMAO; like I won't say more); is Hot Tubs! If everyone in the World spent more time in Hot Tubs - the World would be a better place...we dun forgot how to chill out.
Why do you Obama haters think that the President of the United States is responsible for the actions of some radical lunatics? The people in these backwards countries are always waiting to kill and destroy at the drop of a hat. Islam breeds this hatred of infidels and one another.
The truth is that this video accurately depicts Muhammad. It didn't even include the fact that this so-called prophet was a child molester. that would be imprisoned for life for raping 9 year old girls if he were here today. But the Muslims just ignore the facts. In fact many model themselves after this Easter Bunny/Santa Clause type of figure.
Almost all religious people are lunatics. They believe in fairy tales like desperate children that want something to be true so badly that they lie to themselves and ignore the truth when it's so obvious to them it could bite them.
@ J_P_PatchesPal_1, Humans on a general rule are far from simple... however, you are very simple....
Whew.....I'm glad obummers staff finally figured out that Egypt is an ally. Hmmmm...kinda strange he didn't know till told.
J_P_PatchesPal_1, hsart,
Go back to your DNC name calling event, and church of Reverend Wright, "Not God Bless America, God Damn America".
This is ALL on President Obama (Responsible and Accountable) go read his book to know why, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance
If you have never lived at Kenya and encountered the Fundamentalist Islamic Arabic Omani Muslims that control everything and treat the Swahili as fourth class citizens you have NO idea. Especially, why his father named him a Fundamentalist Islamic Arabic Omani Muslim name instead of a Swahili name.
add to post#1.41.
That is NOT a "Birther" comment that is a fact of life at Kenya.
The "Birthers" are barking up the wrong tree. And need to look at something else that would disqualify him from being the President of the US.
Be my guest - tell me what makes humans sooooooooooo complex? Let me guess; it's because you were created in the image of your God and your God could do magical tricks. So, lets hear what you got that makes you so special...I'll wait (maybe).
"Humans on a general rule"...what a cop out - that doesn't tell me a gawd damn thing.
david 475776; is this that same Jew david that used to Troll me all the time? When you going to get rid of that generic name so you have an identity here...love ya/drainbramage.
I'm near enough if you are queer enough; so that you can check out if I am circumcised or not.
And before you even attempt to say "so small", etc. you would know, "J_P_PatchesPal_1 -mmmmmmggggmmm", don't choke on the "so small".
Sandy, et al: When you awake, reread your posts. Your actions and words are the same as those you condemn.
OK: the new scripts are out. This was a planned event. It may well have been. We won't know until cool heads prevail and evidently, there aren't any in most of these posts. Thank your stars we now have a very wise President Obama at the helm.
You want war? Join the military service. If a repub/tparty wins this coming election we will have war - all you misinformed will be sitting at the curb waving your American flags, while our military is sent off to kill and die. War doesn't determine who is right, just who is left. And the warmongers of the repub/tparty will be palming their profits. Stop and think before you vote. Hatred, anger - a combination for destruction.
Getting my BBQ ready to burn some Koran in protest of my flag being burned. Going to youtube this too. I refuse to have my country bullied into submission daily.
Jesus and God are mocked and insulted EVERYDAY on public TV. We don't react by killing people.........
earthgirl.............Your Obama is closing down coal mines, restricting American oil companies from drilling in the Gulf,Alaska and the east coast. Obama has stated he is comfortable with $6 gas. Obama is investing billions of taxpayer monies in dying companies. Obama has sent 100's of millions to the mid-east to rebuild Mosques! What is it you like about Obama sitting in the White House?
david (post 1.45); you finally made me laugh - it only took you 5 years. Now I have my doubts as to if this is indeed my favorite Jew troll - it's not like david to make a post less than 8000 words. If I have to check your private parts - then I have one condition - I get to dress you the way I want first...if I'm going to have to go queer - I want the full experience.
datadon; if anyone ever needed to provide some links to back up their claims - yours would be in the Top 10.
Precious; stop slicing up the pie - it's all related in the bigger picture. I love how people here whittle down each slice as tiny as they can make it, then take as many roads as possible to say; see, I'm always right. The truth always lays somewhere in the middle - it's the extreme that divides us.
I've been around on this planet for awhile now. I've seen many presidents come and go and I have to say that not one of them, no matter how bad or inept, ever hated America. I feel that Obama hates America. All that he does tears down and divides and impoverishes. He cloaks his actions under the mantle of 'equality' and foments class and racial dissention while doing so. His followers are caught in the cult of personality, they make excuses for his every action, no matter how egregious or unconstitutional.
This is not surprising. Many of his followers are unaware that Europe is not a continent or certain of the exact location of France or Libya. They have been indoctrinated and led and are so caught up in an emotional connection with him that they are unable to see beyond the facade. Sound bites and ephemera satisfy them.
Oh boy, we have a bright one here - a worse crime of all - would be; the worst crime of all. Save the energy you spend on me and take some reading and writing comprehension classes. At the very least - try the Spell Check feature...but at least you have company (2 votes) that share your brilliant skills.
I did try and stuff my pocket pal in my mouth - I'm a half inch short.
Yes sure, the Muslim brotherhood has gone legit
Wrong country Johnny.
Who in the Hell ordered the Marines not to have loaded weapons? That is the person who is at fault here. I'll bet it was ordered by Clinton or Obama himself. What are our servicemen and women being asked to do. May God have mercy on their souls.
I agree with Gary. These guys and anyone within that building should have had access to an arsenal of weapons! and even a safe room to go into with enough food and air until the marines got there! This is ridiculous.
Gary I also wondering who in their right mind would have our soldiers armed but with no ammunition...might as well have had long sticks to protect themselves, this is incredulous, heads need to roll on that decision. Also why weren't our marines in the embassy in Libya?
We don't have an embassy in Libya, it happened at our Consulate. Marines do not protect our Consulates. This is the protocol for all countries.
Wrong, we have one in Tripoli, not in Benghazi
Muslims are stubborn who will never tolerate any crap talking against their religion. Killing them and fighting them will not make anything better. Only internet and Hollywood will change Islam but it will take time, long time.
After the US Military Bible Burnings at Afghanistan it is Policy that you cannot use the word God, in relation to anyone's Religion.
Does not matter the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood, and the Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) new Government of Libya, etc. all Fully supported by the Fundamenatlist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran and the US to Overthrow US Allies Worldwide.
Ever heard the term, Repeating the Same Mistakes and Expecting a Different Result. A very long time ago I was tasked to "informally" debrief Mr. "S" as part of my US Military Asymmetric Warfare Training. Mr. "S" was then a Motor Pool Officer at Germany. Over the course of a few months I got the full story of what happened at the US Embassy at Iran, that I wrote up as my Informal Debriefing. His position at the US Embassy was working directly for the US Ambassador as the US's eyes and ears of the Region, including the Security of all Classified at the US Embassy and the US Ambassador himself. He received the message from Communications at the Whitehouse (aka Redacted) that they were not allowed to fire at the Protesters, US Use of Deadly Force. Mr. "S" sources on the ground indicated that they needed to escape, as this would be a situation that there would not be any cavalry to the rescue (USMC) per US President. Mr."S" then backward planned based on when they needed to catch the last flight out. The US Ambassador refused to let Mr. "S" start to thermite grenade all the classified in the vault. At the last minute Mr."S" and his team with the necessary force grabbed the US Ambassador (deer in the headlights) threw him into the US Embassy's Blockade Running Security Vehicle and got the US Ambassador out while running over Iranians. For this (reason why I was also doing the "informal" debriefing) the US Ambassador pressed charges against Mr."S" to attempt to deflect blame and responsibility on to Mr."S". Mr."S" was then put into the pending investigation category of undesirables. Afterwards there was a Formal Investigation that exhonorated Mr. "S"; however, the US Department of State still considers him as undersirable. Mr."S" warned me never to get involved in what he did, and was extremely displeased when thru his channels he found out I was already neck deep. Mr."S" was allowed to quitely Retire from the US Military, and currently lives on a farm with his sons and daughters, his wife passed away before Mr."S" was exhonorated.
Without too much detail or disclosing "Classified" (from the US Public only) normally a person in Mr. "S" position is called an Foreign Area Officer, a US Military (Asymmetric Warfare) Officer as attached to the CIA usually with a College level education in the language(s) and culture(s) for their Area(s) of Operation(s). Mr."S" was getting an idea of what I was, because he found out I knew too much (Islamic culture) and Farsi.
Nigol66^ does that tell you how the US Embassys work. Currently I cannot provide my examples of how the Consulates work from previously being attached to Redacted, Redacted, and Redacted before.
@ Charles Fowler... You bet there will be Sir. It is a sad day but heads will roll at some point.
Whoever is arrested, brought to the courts for prosecution and later "convicted or acquited" of an accused crime, must receive "fair trial". When Anglo British and Anglo Australian lawyers say that they could never send Julianne Asange to Sweden because he will be extradited to the US where he will never receive fair trial...that is pretty serious allegation coming from experienced lawyers from so called "ally countries". When I read these letters that ask "not for justice" but for beheading, killing, shooting, lynching, torture and assassinations one can see how people will believe that Americans have lost their sense, culture of fairness and inclusion and are seen as blood thirsty undemocratic canibals. Do you want such an image? Would it not upset you, anger you and annoy you? So...why would you guys use language that is so "violent, crude, rude, offensive, provocative and undemocratic"? Because of these behaviors there might a whole bunch of films depicting Jesus or Yehweh as gay molestor or a womanizer or a drug addict or a fraud. Stop this horrible cycle. Watch your language, and what you imply or state obviously in terms of violence and torture. Stop your demands for more killing without proper investigation and fair trial. The right people who committed the crime should be brought to justice. Not just shooting, killing and assassinations. You give the impression that American men just want to kill, dominate, spy, control and torture because they have no other job, identity, values or balance. And they are addicted to violence. That they are psychopaths. Do you want to give that impression? So stop this language of violence and hatred.
Well, those innocent people didn't die fairly did they? The problem with the US is that we are too soft on these kinds of things. Our military needs to toughen up and kick some butt, and until we do, this kind of thing will continue to go on.
I agree with the part of a fair trial, and anything relating to the violent end of anyone detained or captured, BUT the reason you are seeing angry comments is because those animals/lunatics attacked and murdered men that were helping a country climb out of oppression, and ignorance because of religious ideology. These Americans were HELPING in a region that is at least 100 years behind the 1st world, and what do they receive for their goodwill? Comments like the one you wrote. A comment that is claiming Americans are giving off a bad impression because we are addicted to violence, dominance, spying, and torture, and the Americans were the ones who were attacked and killed by people of middle eastern descent for no other reason but a select group of people of middle eastern descent don't want their abilities to dominate, torture, intimidate, and spy interrupted. You are looking through the wrong end of the microscope. And I do know this, those animals/psychopaths will be hunted down, and it will be up to them if they want to live or not and the United States will not be deterred by terrorism ever in trying to help people that need our help (like the people of Libya). So next time forward your e-mail to Al qaeda, and every time you type "American" replace it with "terrorist".
Oh hell no.
Someone needs to answer for this. Nobody kills our citizens, especially when they're present for diplomatic reasons. We need to send a message that we are sincere about wanting to assist the people of Libya, but we're not going to let others murder our citizens. If they disagree with what the US is doing in the region, fine; however, there are several more appropriate courses of action than attacking a consulate.
Instead we are borrowing billions of dollars from China to fund these countries and their arms against us!!! We need to STOP all foriegn money to countries that are against us!!! W could kill our debt if the monies in aide stayed here in the united states!!! Im sorry, I know there are countries that despertley need food, clean water etc but our aide doesnt go to the people it goes to the governments and militia, and then used to kill diplomats on our soil!!!!!!!!! This whole situation makes me sick, I just dont understand that kind of hate and feel so sorry for the families it has effected and even sorrier that they cant grieve in peace because NOW its a political issue
Shannon you are so right-for years and years and years our money has been going to these countries and the money is never used for these people. It has been used to obtain weapons to kill us. You would think that our so intelligent government would have figured out to stop sending money to them years ago and our country would not be in such debt that it is. These people in countries like the way they live and they are not going to change and if they want to change it-well this is the 21st century and they need to stand up and fight their own battles now. Let them fend for themselves. Really look how many billions of dollars we send to these countries and look at the poverty they are living in and now our great messiah president wants us to live the same way. He has really shown no remorse for the people who got killed-just that they did a good job defending our country-really??they really didn;t have a chance to defend anything-they were mobbed. Washington needs to be completely replaced. Maybe the people in this country need to mob the White House and chase them out.
Our military is tough, but due to Vietnam, leaders need to be careful about these kind of things. Third world nations often blame us for their troubles, and use children and women as methods of attack on our boys (and girls, respectively). What I'm referring to is a drop in public opinion and support due to extremities needing to be taken to end the war with the least amount of casualties on either side. When vietnamese began killing civilians, we took the blame. If you remember, casualties were low in that war, and support was high at the beginning.
Back on subject, we shouldn't be wasting time in this country, it's virtually worthless. If a superpower had intent of somehow using this nation against us, maybe then. But this is merely because of our president's nationality and his sense of obligation to his father's (or mother's?) birthplace. We're spread out all over as it is. Let our British cousins handle this ugly fiasco, spare our soldiers' lives I say. Less money spent on bombs and ammo the better in my opinion. Third world countries will never accept our aid, I say we let them see what their lives our like without our medicine and martial support.
@ Kanic — You do understand the power of impeachment don't you? Don't blame the government and speak of such insurrectionist atrocity without first attemptin to make a hearable and just argument. If we attack our own leaders, we're no better than any third world dictatorship we claim to help. Try to think reasonably fellow Americans, learn about what you speak so freely of and what kind of repercussions your thoughts entail. Freedom is our very creed in this country, use it to good effect, not to rant about possible violence on our own capital, which would require you to KILL soldiers who guard it wouldn't it? That would be hypocrisy in the truest form.
Dr. MS - There have been films made in this country who depicted Jesus in a sick and disgusting way, but no one climbed walls and burned flags and killed people because they didn't like it. That's because in this country we have freedom of speech and freedom to believe in what wish to and those of us who do not like these films who disrespect Jesus don't watch them. I won't give my money or waste my time seeing such a film but I won't go kill someone over it. It's time America stops all this feel sorry for them crap and stand up and honor this country whether we have to kill them or not. Just how long are we supposed to sit back and do nothing-w have done that for far too long. All this crap of when we go to war that we shouldn't kill them, we shouldn't torture them, we shouldn't do this, we shouldn't do that-arresting or own military needs to stop. It is war and they surely don't have any mercy on us and the day we stand up and fight back is when they we will see that we will not be taken over by them.
Hardtruthoflife-anyone who would guard Obama is not an American and yes Obama should have been impeached 3 years ago and yes it is the gov't fault. See, that's the problem here in America-everyone just sits back and does nothing and that is why our country is being destroyed by our gov't.
Nobody messes with Israel because their government/military force will deal with the perpetrators against their citizens very harshly. They fight fire with fire. The US cannot be soft on these terrorists.
I read above that we are blaming the Jewish man that produced a film... What in the hell are you talking about? You are now blaming someone that only used their freedom of speech amendment. what happened to the heathens that killed these fine men?? These seventh century, neanderthal, inbreeds, should all be taken out and the same done to them...Not only did they kill them, but they raped, tortured, mutilated, cut their genitals off and drug them down the streets, and for many hours. How dare you blame anyone but the terrorist murderers. Sometimes I don't think any of you have a single brain...Who in this Country would ever act in this manner over a film?
They came onto US soil, an embassy that these countries leaders, and military should have been protecting. And one more thing, this man in the White House is the commander in chief.. Why in the hell didn't he on the anniversary of 9/11 have a special security force on these places? This is his arab spring, he chose to stand and help orchestrate this new government and look what he has created. This all falls on his back. Its not over yet and you all best be prepared when it hits this soil. It will hit here too..
Now I no its hard, but put your head on right and place the blame on the heathens that did this, and don't forget who put them in harms way.
Lots of "tough" guys here. They think overwhelming violence is the solution for everything.
I feel sorry for their wives and children. Ouch.
Amminadab or whateveryourrealname is......I am a female and I am mad as hell at what happened.......so don't be blaming the "tough" guys here........when push comes to shove I'll take their side anyday....lock and load baby! Lock and load....it's time we kicked some muslim ass!
Don't feed the troll.
Ken,
In case you are unaware, President Barrack Obama is currently in office. It is his foreign policy that caused this. Obama's Arab Spring turned into the Arab Rage. Obama abandoned Mubarak. The Muslim Brotherhood (that Obama claimed doesn't exist) is in charge of the government. The United States provides millions of dollars to the Muslim Brotherhood government as an appeasement measure.
The State Dept. knew that these embassies were going to be attacked early enough to have been evacuated or armed. But instead they chose to critique a movie that most people haven't even seen.
It was the current administration that didn't see our low standing and the simmering hatred in Bengazi, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Sudan, etc. Every American in the region is under threat. And so far this administration's only show of leadership is to buy sympathy cards.
Oh, and did I say FVCK you muslim shltheads. Burn in hell with all those virgins you dumbass bastards think are waiting for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND YOUR POINT IS? They are a legitimate company that works a security detail for State Department officials and are very good at their jobs. This company has NEVER lost a single client in the 12 years they have been in business (including in Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Yemen, Kosovo, etc)....I think that speaks for itself.
Are you going to do that. Think about this, according to President Obama he was instrumental in the Overthrow of President Gaddaffi aka "the Dictator killing his own people" (Islamic Jihadist Foreign Fighters at Libya)). So basically, he put into power those that would later murder him.
Stop volunteeringthose that will do those distasteful things that you would refuse to do. When was the last time YOU killed someone with extreme prejudice. And do not tell me the ridiculous argument that you volunteered for the US Military, as I had a comfortable 0700 to 1900 desk job teaching Nuclear (Weapons) Physics, previously trained Missiles, Chemical, Biological, etc. before being told to either resign my Commission or become a US Military Asymmetric Warfare Middle East Qualified Officer with my arse being deployed with the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone during the so called "Peacetime US Military".
lancescham,
These Americans were placed into a NO Win Situation by the US Political Leadership. And stop attempting to marginalize the numbers of Fundamentalist Islamic Believers that took over Libya. We need to get the F**k out of there and Egypt, the US being at a Fundamentalist Islamic Nation is justification enough for them to kill.
Your Academic Idealistic nonsense has no place in the Real World Life or Death School of Hard Knocks as idealist academic US Ambassador Christopher Stevens found out the hard way, and more than likely his actions (covered up) directly attributed to the other Americans getting killed trying to save him. And do NOT tell me I don't know, this has happened to me before, barely surviving and escaping.
I told most of you the amount of time it takes to train the "average" US Military Asymmetric Warfare, so now here it is:
I also mentioned that we are trained as Physician's Assistance to accomplish our US Military Asymmetric Warfare Humanitarian Assistance Mission:
It was the decades of training and experience required as to the reason why there are so few US Military Asymmetric Warfare, as after the President Clinton Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces of the US Military, usually the first to go were those considered as "Renegades", "Rogues", etc. being the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces that were RIF'ed by the US Military Conventional Warfare Forces. So many that were RIF'ed became the US Security Contractors, US Law Enforcement, Firefighters, EMTs/EMS, to continue to Serve the Citizens of the US. Many of our friends from Combat ended up at New York City since they were hiring the most US Military Veterans. With many dying during the 9/11 2001 Attacks, this is why afterwards many of us volunteered to go after those responsible. In October 2001 after the CIA SAD/SOG were failingat Afghanistan, we were attached to them. Regardless of casualties of Redacted % especially during intensive Urban Warfare making us almost non mission capable we continued killingthem withextreme prejudice, causing them to flee to Northern Iraq via the Old Silk Road why in 2002 we went into Northern Iraq to kill those that escaped us at October-November 2001 Afghanistan and became Fundamentalist Islamic Ansar Al Islam. In 2002 Operation Hotel California we attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG augmented by the US Army 10th Special Forces went after Fundamentalist Islamic Ansar Al Islam.
So again ThankYouSoldiers are YOU willing to do those things that are necessary YOURSELF.
riley-1759556,
The brain farts that mention Blackwater, Halliburton, KBR, etc. are political hacks blowing their jizz in a political sound bite. This is because they do not realize that Blackwater, Halliburton, KBR, etc. became a Political Issue after the US Contractors that refused to hire the more expensive US Military with experience from the RIF'ed by President Clinton's Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces of the US Military started to complain to their Politicians by bribing them thru their DNC Lobbyists that their US Contractors were not being Contracted by the US Military, US Department of State, etc. because their US Contractors could not meet the Contract minimum requirement of experienced personnel. Most of the DNC related Partisan Newsvine Posters do not even bother (too lazy) to do the research and darn sure do not have Firsthand Experience, and are too hypocritical to even believe just how corrupt their own DNC really is (saying they are not supported by President Obama's Buddy "Mr. Corporate America", and have character witnesses like Draft Dodgers former President Clinton (literally ran to Canada), or Vice President Biden (lost his previous Presidential Campaigns at his home State) due to his Dodging the Draft 5 times (wish I had that much money to go to college that long) and buying for $20,000 (equal to a half millon to million today) a Medical Deferment from a known Anti War Doctor, "that would have made him too sick to hold Public Office" according to his home State's News Media (he later abandoned his home State of PA to Delaware, as they knew what he was/is)), as well as not knowing that there are over 3,000 US Contractors that did receive US Military, US Department of State, etc. contracts and make more money than Blackwater, KBR, Halliburton combined.
Nope. President Obama's current Rules of Engagement, US Civilian Rules of Law, US Civilian Rules of Evidence placed on the US Military and agressively prosecuted by the hundreds of Lawyers sent to Afghanistan ever since President Obama's August 2009 US Civilian Surge.
April 2009 President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered Cuts to the USAF and USN. In 2012 President Obama backpeddles on the elimination of one USN Aircraft Carrier Strike Group as the US hundreds of thousands of US Labor Union Workers threaten to drive from Virginia to protest on the steps of the Whitehouse. Of course this is another lie of President Obama during his 2012 State of the Union Address, since he ommited the detail that CVN-65 USS Enterprise will be eliminated upon completion of it's last deployment, so one USN Aircraft Carrier Strike Group will still be eliminated and all those US Civilians US Labor Union Workers laid off (not including the other almost thousand US Civilians, USN Support Ship Crews, USN Aircraft Carrier Crew, USN Submarine Escort Crews, USN Aircraft Carrier Air Wing, etc. and all the US Civilians that also maintain those.).
President Obama as US Military Commander In Chief Ordered Reduction In Forces of 90,000 US Military Personnel, meaning more Deployments and longer Tours. Repeating the identical mistakes of President Clinton that lead to the 9/11 2001 Attacks and expecting a different Result. Just waiting for President Obama to start Gutting the US Intelligence Agencies like President Clinton did that left the US Blind, and had to rely on "information" (not even intelligence) from "Potentially Hostile Nations" (like Jordan and Pakistan) according to the US Congressional 9/11 Committees Investigations, Findings and Recommendations, with former President Clinton saying, "I'm so sorry".
David: Too many words to rationalize your opinions. One-sided as only a repub/tparty can do, too many false info - always a dead giveaway. Your post is empty of real facts, you saw and heard only what you wanted. Now that you have it off your chest, do as an earlier poster suggested, hot tub.
David: Too many words to rationalize your opinions. One-sided as only a repub/tparty can do, too many false info - always a dead giveaway. Your post is empty of real facts, you saw and heard only what you wanted. Now that you have it off your chest, do as an earlier poster suggested, hot tub.
ALWAYS CHECK and I finally did: "Pentagon Lt. Col. Chris Hughes told the outlet: “The ambassador and RSO (Regional Security Officer) have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. No restrictions on weapons or weapons status have been imposed. This information comes from the Det Commander at AMEMB (American Embassy) Cairo.”
Google: marines-not-permitted-live-ammo. It's in the beacon.
@ David... Thank you for your service, but you are picking gnat sh!t out of pepper. And that is just the parts I could even understand. Call me ignorant I guess. I am fine with it.
And let's all pray our security forces are allowed to carry ammo from now on.
Are you sure they are not allowed to carry ammo??
I did not realize until today that the Marine guards there are not allowed to have ammo. I actually double checked hoping the the info was wrong. No they are standing guard but not allowed ammo. Something is wrong with this picture.
Are you sure they are NOT allowed ammo? If you are right, he was a clay pigeon with no ability to defend anyone, himself included. If that's the case, Obama needs to be impeached and thrown out of office NOW. And like the four arrested are the guilty ones....Not a chance. Our brave men die to protect us every day and it is time we did something to be absolutely certain Secrets aren't leaked and those responsible for no ammo are NOT in any position to make decisions of any kind.
Yes, let's not make this political. The same thing happened in Lebanon under Reagan. I thought we learned our lesson. Obviously not.
Clark, STFU, you don't know anything about anything. I am amazed you can put on your pants without help. Where do people like you come from? Is there a special place where they raise people to grow up with IQ's below 50?
There is only one answer and that is you are a paid RNC poster who opens his mouth and lets sh*t spill from it so that he can collect a paycheck.
Please go away... far away, we don't need or want your ridicules comments.
A good man died, doing a very dangerous job in a hostile country; have some respect.
WHERE IS OUR PRESIDENT???????
........Our fearless leader, the chosen one, the messiah --only has the Barney Fife type of security....Americans can only shoot beanbags.. not even a bullet in the pocket...ask the parents of dead Agent Brain Terry!!
If armed Marines had of been the security, the headlines would be...Americans kill, rape and mutilate defenseless children and women...Ask Jon Kerry about his lies to congress in 1971!!!!. Anti-Americans show up in many forms...ETERNAL VIGILANCE is required and all due caution afforded by our leaders!!!!
Our fearless leader, the chosen one, the messiah --only has the Barney Fife type of security(except for himself)....Americans can only shoot beanbags.. not even a bullet in the pocket...ask the parents of dead HERO -Agent Brain Terry!!
If armed Marines had of been the security, the headlines would be...Americans kill, rape and mutilate defenseless children and women...Ask Jon Kerry ( UNFIT FOR COMMAND) about his lies to congress in 1971!!!!. Anti-Americans show up in many forms...ETERNAL VIGILANCE is required and all due caution expected to be afforded by our leaders!!!! THAT is too much to ask of the Chicago MOB!!!
Jnap, you are rather obnoxious aren't you? Some very good men died here and it was on Obama's watch. Obama should be impeached, he is anti-American and a traitor. He was in support of the Arab Spring in Eygpt remember? He encouraged it. Eygpt is infested with the Muslim brotherhood now and this is only going to get worse. Obama said "I don't think that we would consider them (Eygpt) an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy". If he doesn't know what they are why are we giving them millions of dollars to buy submarines from Germany? Besides Obama is a Muslim himself. Whose side do you think he is on here? He went to Las Vegas for some fundraising yesterday after this tragedy happened. Priorities first!
Romney/Ryan 2012
Georgie937, when bin laden was killed, you right wing rats, had some former seals post up a vid saying to Obama, "you didn't kill bin laden, we did".. But, now when something go wrong, it's Obama fault.
You right wing trash make me sick...
Jnap, who are you to tell someone to STFU. Clark expressed his opinion. I agree that there were several good men that lost their lives. I also agree who ever is making the rules in regards to rules of engagement and who can and cannot carry ammo should be held responsible. I spent 20 + years in the military and have earned the right to express my opinion and have served so you can express yours but to tell someone to STFU is over the top. Ultimately Obama is the Commander in Chief, like it or not so the buck stops with him. He should take the time out of his busy campaign schedule, give the order to the Sec. of Defense to fix the problem and move on to what ever it is Obama does.
Yes, good innocent people died for savage trash. Yes, Obama did support the the takeover of Egypt-he is a muslim himself and will stand with them-that is why he is sitting back doing nothing. He said it in the book he wrote and he said it in a speech he made that we would never be at war with the muslims and that he would stand with them against our own country. He should have been impeached a long time ago. He is showing his true colors and there can only be worse to come. Now he wants to print $40 billion a month to get the economy going-this man is insane and is destroying this country and I can't believe that anyone would support someone destroying your own country-anyone who can vote for this man is not an American and can be considered a traitor to this great country that so many gave their lives for.
/sigh
You liars make me sick.
First off, the 2 embassy compounds in Libya DID NOT HAVE MARINE GUARDS.
Second, Obama has nothing to do with deciding if the guards are armed or not. That decision is left up to the Ambassador. But here, I'll let you lazy b@stards read it yourself.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo
Scroll down to the email that Mother Jones received from Maj. Alex Cross when asked about Marines stationed at embassies.
Then do us all a favor and shut the f*ck up with the lies.
TruthBeTold you sound incoherant. Killing Osama is the ONLY thing Obama has done right. That, in my opinion, doesnt mean he should be president. The rest of his failed foreign policies are weakening America in the world arena and he is seen as weak. He is slowly disarming us militarily and individually. He is anti-American and is going to finish the job he started if he gets re-elected.
Romney/Ryan 2012
Mother@#$ wackjobs... and the terrorists who attacked the embassy too...
Georgie937, man or woman, you sound like you have the brain cell of a nat. Shame on you.
OK, so many views... not many will like or agree with what I believe should be done after the U.S. being attacked once again. Nuke them, that's right, for once and for all nuke them. It will tactically and psycologically stop the insane mid-eastern cultural offensive for awhile at least. Worked pretty well in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. People might say that's horrible, barbaric. Compare it to Bin Laden's demise, didn't cause too much grumbling did it? Basically all that has to be said is "what's the big deal?" I'm pretty conservative, but I must say Bin Laden was take out under Obamas' watch. Nothing happened in Beirut in 1985 when the American 727 was hijacked and a U.S. sailor was executed and thrown on the tarmac. Nothing was done in Beirut when the Marine barracks was blown up in 1983. Nuke 'em, they'll get the picture.
Marine guards at US Embassies are armed and have more than bullets for ammo. Not all consulates have MSGs, however. they are usually only at Embassies. At consulates, we are supposed to be protected by the local security forces. Obviously, some countries do this better than others.
One thing that really bothers me about all the reporting on the victims is that nothing has been said about Mr. Smith, other than his name and the fact that he was an Information management officer. It seems that communications staff do not receive any respect from the State Department.
I have no doubt that you all have excellent opinions, but for now, try to listen to those you consider racist just for hating Obama.
We wouldn't even be in Libya if it wasn't for him, because he's Muslim and his father is Libyan, also he has put us in a place where they obviously don't want us. This is the same reason you all hated Bush, remember? We're in a third world country to fight and kill one side while both sides are immoral and near godless. Would our CHRISTIAN forefathers have approved of the mess we got ourselves into? Would our CHRISTIAN forefathers have gotten into this foreign entanglement as foolishly as Obama has?
I don't hate Islam itself, for it is a traditional and respected religion that deserves our acknowledgement as a legitimate culture. But from what we've seen, the most recent of modern tyrants have been Muslim, maybe we should recoil to our roots, at least until we are evened out with our Chinese cousins.
Obama clearly doesn't understand the situation he's gotten US into, you know, the people who built this country from the ground up when our government didn't have any economy at all yet? The people who have turned the tides of tyrants and fought brothers for the sake of morality?
I'm referring to our talent as a people, not as an Obama, WE decide where we fight, not some fool who spouts out overly-energized emotional nonsense when he wants to be voted in. Romney isn't great either, believe me I understand that, but to swear at him for his political party and hate him for being a moneygrabber is prejudice ( and somewhat racist honestly. )
The last I heard O is the CIC, any problem from security in the military, the buck stops at the top. If a republican was the CIC all hell would have already broken loose...would it not? As usual the media is giving free passes.
Condolences to the families of the slain.
Hey Bubba above... You say don't make this political.. What planet are you on? This entire ordeal is
political...Education 101, try it....
Hardtruthoflife ---- when you say the people who built this country are you referring to the Brits? After all 80% of the laws we use today are the same as they were in the 18th century. I agree with you that Obama is digging a hole and whether we like it or not he's heading us into another war! I wonder what excuses his supporters will come out with then???
Obama is a great speaker, a nice guy..... but we need a leader and delivers on a promise! I can still hear his promises from 4 years ago!!!
Here is to Mother Jones courtesy of Chris from Yuc. Do a google search and you can find it LOL.
Here’s an enticing morning email: Mother Jones reporters are self-professed “BS-busters” and they need to raise $50,000 by next week in order to continue to fact check the evil ways of the right wing media.
slightlyold - it's time America woke up and stopped this crap. Georgie you go I stand with you! DON'T TREAD ON ME!
US Tax Dollars at work: US Military lst in before the Kenyan announced he would be sending US Military?
US Troops making certain that Communist CHinese oil supplies flow without interruption. we pay=not the Communist!@
And why are we paying the UN? Why don't some of you who do not work or pay taxes call your Senator and Congressional rep and ask WHY?
Ok so now his father is Libyan and not Kenyan? My god you guys get more retarded by the minute...
Chris from Yucaipa,
You were told before to FOLLOW THE MONEY pertaining to your baloney "Sources". And because you are TOO LAZY you did not, so now you are only discrediting YOURSELF.
You go train and gain operational experience for decades to eventually become a Foreign Area Officer, the person that encrypts and decrypts all the messages, then you will know who Orders the Guards if they can or cannot carry ammunition or Use Deadly Force.
Sorry David but you're full of sh*t and have offered nothing more than yet another conspiracy theory to muddy the waters. Don't just flap your lips, prove me wrong.
SINCE YOU ARE AN ILLITERATE AND UNEDUCATED AND TOO LAZY AND MUST BE SPOONFED Chris from Yucaipa :
Chris from Yucaipa,
Do you want me to explain to you how to make an Obamazombie like you. It all deals with you being forced to look at a picture of President Obama while a proctologist with both hands on your shoulders pumps your feces into your cranial cavity and forcing your brains out of your nose.
Your Right to say I'm FOS (Full Of Sh!t) is my right to call you an Obamazombie.
I just hope he was allowed to take as many of the invaders with him as he could before he was murdered! I hope he wasn't just allowed bean bags like our border patrol!
Now who in the heck started this crap about No freaking AMMO. I can tell ya it's wrong. Navy SEALS ex or not don't go into hostile territory without AMMO. That's got to be coming from FAUX NO NEWS!!!! And it's a load of CRAP!!!
Sad, just plain sad... our muslim communist pretender-in-chief has to go in November before more good Americans lose their lives for that worthless piece of jihad trash, Barack Hussein Obama!
You really are howling mad aren't you? You deserved Bush the rest of us are thankful he's gone.
To be honest Larry, I despised "W" the whole time he was in office but after 4 years of Do-Diddly I'd be the 1st in line to welcome him back with open arms!
Larry you should feel indignant also. Why aren't you?
Howlin'MadMac
If the intent of your comment was to denigrate President Obama, it was a fail. It serves as a reminder of the low mindedness of his opposition instead. McCarthy-esque comments like yours sway the voters away from the republican party. I see the beginnings of a landslide. The endless adhominem attacks on Bush used to turn me off in the same way.
Obama has handled himself pretty well in this crisis, as has Secretary of State Clinton, as did Bush after 9/11 as has our military in defending the nation.
Too bad we need ever more security at our embassies in the middle east, its a shameful but necessary exercise.
What an unnecessry loss of life.
Why wait until November, IMPEACH him now.
Mad dog, Your name is appropriate. Do you foam at the mouth all the time or just when you want to make a fool of yourself? You and Clark should get together and have a hate spewing contest to determine who is the dumbest and most hateful.
Howlin
Absolutely right.!!! We just can't get Obama out soon enough. Obama is to blame for these American's deaths and many more. He takes his orders from the radical Muslims and needs to be stopped.
Obama leaks high security secrets and knew about the attacks before they happened. He resents the Navy Seals and is doing all he can to kill them.
Obama = Failure, destruction and the ruination of us and our country.
Sure, and you want to put a Tax Doger in that will most likely start a war on lies like BUSH did...
He wanted to try Bush for war crimes-i think it time's Obama is tried for war crimes-he has gotten many Americans killed and doesn't blink an eye about it.
yeah, you're right truth....because no one associatesd with obummer is a tax dodger (or doger for you) only his entire group of appointed cronies.
when will you idiot libtards put down the kool-aid and recognize the loser for what he is....an absolute POS, american hating, narcissistic, over-his-head muslim clown...i wasn't a fan of bushie but i would rather have what bushie flushed down the toilet this morning as our president than the POS floating around the white house now.
Truthbe told and you have absolute evidence the romney is a tax evader? I thought so you have nothing but a passed on stereotypical parrotted response...not even original...
It's too bad our government values relationships with people that hate them more than they value the lives of the people sworn to protect them.
There should be underground hidden bunkers in consulates in dangerous countries not just rooms with relnforced rooms and doors that could be easily penetrated.
They mad a BIG mistake killing a SEAL. There will be a price to pay, SEALs and their special ops might even take out Syrian jerk too. SEALs are their own brotherhood. And Barrack is inviting Egyptian president for a visit while here at United Nations but has told Israeli prime minister that requested a vistit, he is too busy. Folks, that guy is creating more diversity than any other street demonstrator in our history.
GA Custer according to the article there were two ex-seals murdered. Double trouble, I'd say so. Go get em!
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of these brave men who were brutally murdered. I hope they fry the bastards and their 72 virgins are all men!
Obama is destroying and has divided America. I say to those that support Obama that you are not American and why don't you get the EF out of this country along with Obama!
We are the only real Americans you dumb jack azz.....you should pack up and leave my country at once! Obama 2012!! Like it or not its going to happen hahahahaha...I love that it hurts you so bad....now go get out of my country......
Hey, Kanic:
Why don't YOU get the f*** out of the country. Contrary to what you might want to believe, us "liberals" believe in freedom of speech and many of us on the left are a lot more willing to lay down our lives for this country that includes ALL Americans. We don't hate America; We just despise what it is becoming because of the likes of YOU.
Take your fascist ideas and shove them right back up your a**. There are plenty of morons like you running around who are even too chicken sh** to use their real names but spout openly their LIES, LIES, AND LIES. Makes you nothing but a fat tub of lard who wants to dictate to everyone else what to believe. YOU ARE THE ONES DIVIDING THIS COUNTRY.
Where was your outrage when the incompentence of the Bush Administration led to the dissolution of ALMOST $10 TRILLION IN AMERICAN ASSETS IN THE FINANCIAL MELTDOWN?
Where was your outrage when his incompetence and ignorance allowed terrorists to fly planes into buildings EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE REPEATEDLY TOLD FOR MONTHS - DATING TO MAY 2001 - THAT OSAMA BIN LADEN AND AL QAEDA WERE DETERMINED TO STRIKE WITHIN -- LET ME REPEAT: WITHIN -- THE UNITED STATES? (How many terrorist attacks have happened on American soil since Obama took office?? OH, THAT'S RIGHT!! NONE!!!)
Where was your outrage when he pushed through a prescription drug bill for HALF A TRILLION DOLARS THAT WAS PAID FOR WITH BORROWED CHINESE MONEY?
Where was your outrage when he puts the head of a HORSE SHOW in charge of the agency whose job it was to PROTECT HUMAN LIVES IN THE EVENT OF A CATASTOPHE?
Where was your outrage when PALLET LOADS OF CASH DISAPPEARED BEFORE IT EVER MADE IT INTO IRAQ?
Where was your outrage when Dick the Dick Cheney handed NO-BID MULTIBILLION DOLLAR CONTRACTS TO HIS CRONIES IN AND OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE?
Where was your outrage when Donald Rumsfeld SENT OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN INTO A MANUFACTURED WAR WITHOUT ADEQUATE PROTECTION??
Where was your outrage when Bush & Co. CREATED THE REASON TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Where was your outrage about borrowing TRILLIONS IN CHINESE MONEY TO FIGHT "MANUFACTURED" WARS WITH NO END IN SIGHT?
Yeah, shove your fascist crap right back up your ass. Look around and SEE WHO IT IS WHO IS REALLY DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY: YOU AND YOUR KIND. REMEMBER, YOU AND YOUR KIND ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE THROWN UP EVERY ROADBLOCK TO TRY AND MAKE THIS PRESIDENT A FAILURE. I CALL THAT TREASON. You all deserve to be tried and strung up.
your country "ricardo"? sounds like you may have slipped across the border for your freebies. no wonder you suck on obummer....don't you realize he actually hates mexicans, he only wants your vote.. freakin wake up!
bob b. high.....very high.....must be the kool-aid.
Obama actually hates US soldiers, so this doesn't hurt him in the least. He wants to cease deployed soldiers' voting so they can't vote against him.
The real veterans all hate his guts, that's why he's also trying to rack up immigrants' votes by lying to them. Honestly, it's rather sneaky and backstabbing of him. My own father, a veteran in the Navy of 20 years, may not receive his veterans' pay once he retires thanks to Obama's plans for us. That's fine though, so long as you Obama voters are happy until you die and your children inherit your problems, I guess we ought to move out of the way for you, right?
All the bureacrats and especially Leon Panetta will try scolding the SEALS for any action like that too. They think they own the SEALS.
Hard truth, everything you say is correct but immigrants? Try illegal on for size...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSkv_29Rncg
Uh huh. During President Bush, the hypocrites screaming "Freedom of Speech", "Freedom of the Press", "Right to Know", "Constitutional Rights", etc.. Now anything that even appears to contradict President Obama, "Treason","Traitor", "Imprisonment", "Classified", "Book burnings like the Hitler Youth", etc..
And: During President Bush "Dubya", "Shrub", "Runt" etc. now during President Obama all of you foaming at the mouth saying "Dissing", "Disrespect", etc. when the News Media uses Mr. Obama instead of President Obama.
And even worst yet, TOO LAZY, to even figure out what you are buying/bought (voted for):
The Elimination of your Constitutional Rights with President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (plural Laws), shown here (link) during a Staged News Media Event, January 22, 2009, being signed into US Laws, 04:38 minutes of 11:55 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE
To close a loop hole in President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts, President Obama signs into US Law his 2012 NDAA, to allow the US Military Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY
You are so funny.
President Obama's Supporters the US Labor Unions saying "We are your Army". And yet, prior to WWII President FDR (Democrat) suspending all US Labor Union Activities as Sympathizers to the Fascists of Mussolini and Chancellor Hitler's Political Labor Union the NAZI Party. The US Labor Unions of the Henry Ford Era were wiped out by the Great Depression and taken over by the "Italian Organized Crime" that later proved that they were Sympathizers to the Facists of Mussolini when they demanded the US Labor Unions Violently Strike to stop or slow down the US Military Liberations of Sicily and Italy. To stop the Violent Murders, Firebombings, Beatings (to Death), etc. of the US Labor Unions President FDR as US Military Commander In Chief Ordered the US Military Police (not the National Guard) to stop the violent US Labor Union Strikes, to protect themselves the US Military Police ended up machinegunning the violent US Labor Union Strikers that were attempting to beat them to death.
The mistakes of President Clinton that lead to the 9/11 2001 Attacks and expecting a different Result. Just waiting for President Obama to start Gutting the US Intelligence Agencies like President Clinton did that left the US Blind, and had to rely on "information" (not even intelligence) from "Potentially Hostile Nations" (like Jordan and Pakistan) according to the US Congressional 9/11 Committees Investigations, Findings and Recommendations, with former President Clinton saying, "I'm so sorry".
LOL. Don't even know how to figure out Cause + Effects (Symptoms) = Results.
President Clinton's Removal of those US Laws that Made Illegal the Causes of the previous 1907 Depression and the 1929-1939 Great Depression resulting in the current $60 Trillion to $100 Trillion Global Economic Crisis consisting of the Mortgage Crisis, Wall Street Crisis, Financial Crisis, Banking Crisis, Credit Crisis, etc..
Like I stated before because you DO NOT know the Cause and only play the blame game you cannot fix the problem.
blah, blah, blah, where is your fake outrage since President Obama's Political Appointees Holbrooke and Eikenberry were spending Billions USDs per year and NOTHING was being done nor built, this money that they only had access to NOT the US Military nor the Afghans; and when President Karzai had General McChrystal Investigate them they started screaming to deflect blame from themselves, "Karzai Corrupt".
Where was your outrage when President Obama passed his not budgeted for $2.1 Trillion ACA, that rewarded the Insurance Corporations with $67 Billion, the Medical Device Corporations with $23 Billion, the Pharmaceuticals Corporations with $20 so that President Obama could get $1 Billion of Unlimited Corporate Campaign Contributions (before the Citizens United Case even made it's way thru the US Court System, since President Obama's Buddy "Mr. Corporate America" Legal Briefed the US Supreme Court to allow that by legal leveraging (rule the 2008-2009 Elections invalid for his admitted violations of US Law McCain Feingold Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act or Rule in Favor of Unlimited Corporate Campaign Contributions.).
The brain farts that mention Blackwater, Halliburton, KBR, etc. are political hacks blowing their jizz in a political sound bite. This is because they do not realize that Blackwater, Halliburton, KBR, etc. became a Political Issue after the US Contractors that refused to hire the more expensive US Military with experience from the RIF'ed by President Clinton's Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces of the US Military started to complain to their Politicians by bribing them thru their DNC Lobbyists that their US Contractors were not being Contracted by the US Military, US Department of State, etc. because their US Contractors could not meet the Contract minimum requirement of experienced personnel. Most of the DNC related Partisan Newsvine Posters do not even bother (too lazy) to do the research and darn sure do not have Firsthand Experience, and are too hypocritical to even believe just how corrupt their own DNC really is (saying they are not supported by President Obama's Buddy "Mr. Corporate America", and have character witnesses like Draft Dodgers former President Clinton (literally ran to Canada), or Vice President Biden (lost his previous Presidential Campaigns at his home State) due to his Dodging the Draft 5 times (wish I had that much money to go to college that long) and buying for $20,000 (equal to a half million to million today) a Medical Deferment from a known Anti War Doctor, "that would have made him too sick to hold Public Office" according to his home State's News Media (he later abandoned his home State of PA to Delaware, as they knew what he was/is)), as well as not knowing that there are over 3,000 US Contractors that did receive US Military, US Department of State, etc. contracts and make more money than Blackwater, KBR, Halliburton combined.
That was your ignorant US Politicians of YOUR States that refused to allow production of US Military Equipment in other States. And due to President Clinton's previous Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces of the US Military and US Defense Budget Cuts even Toilet paper was rationed. So when the Wars started President Bush had to beg US Congress to rebuild the US Military, and beg States Governors to allow the Deployments of their National Guard Units (US Military Active Units turned over to the States).
The First Place was us chasing down the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada, Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists that were at the Training Camps at Northern Afghanistan, that escaped us via the Old Silk Road into Northern Iraq, and received Fundamentalist Islamic Sanctuary from the Fundamentalist Islamic Kurdistanis. Combined together with the Full Support of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran they became Ansar Al Islam.
In 2002 President Bush begged for a US Law for us to finish the job of eliminating those responsible for the 9/11 2001 Attacks at Northern Iraq. In 2002 attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG and augmented with the US Army 10th Special Forces Group we went into Northern Iraq and fought Fundamentalist Islamic Ansar Al Islam. Before eliminating them the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran gave them Fundamentalist Islamic Sanctuary; much later via the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran they returned to Afghanistan once again as the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada, and many Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists. (recently declassified) Many also hid at Southern Iraq with the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia, this was not known then and not in the decision making process.
2002 Our Mission is changed to conduct President Clinton's US Law, H.R. 4655, "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Justifications Section 2 Weapons of Mass Destruction (NOT BUSH), and Section 3 US Policy the Overthrow of President Hussein. Most of us in writing opposed this as we knew that President Hussein was the only Force against the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, we were threatened with charges of "insubordination". This becomes part of 2002 Operation Hotel California and becomes later 2003 US Military Operation Iraqis Freedom.
In 2002 after vetting the Pro US Kurdistanis (not the Fundamentalists) we, the US Army 10th Special Forces Group, and companies of Pro US Kurdistanis attack, seized and secured the Iraqis Chemical Weapons Facility at Sargat, Iraq.
Our Strategic Mission is to create a Strategic Operational Feint to make the Iraqis Military Command and Iraqis Political Leadership believe the US will Attack thru US Ally Turkey. They believed this and deployed their Iraqis Main Military Forces North of Baghdad.
The rest, see the unclassifed History of the US Army 10th Special Forces Group.
2002 we start operations for the 2003 arrival of the 2003 US Military Conventional Warfare Forces coming from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Our forces are already in Baghdad.
LOL. If President Obama wanted to circumvent US Congress "The Will of the People" like he has before and take COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions
********SHOWS JUST HOW MUCH YOU DON'T KNOW**********
Already was a Failure, you cannot make him something that he is not:
Day one, January 21, 2009, signing into US Laws his January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (plural Laws) to Eliminate US Citizens Constitutional Rights, Due Process of Law, Monitoring and Censorship of All US Communications, Expanded Presidential Powers, Preemptive Detentions of US Citizens, US Military Use of Deadly Force Against US Citizens, inclusion of the previously defeated as Unconstitutional US Senate S.1959 and House of Representatives H.R.1955 aka the George Orwell 1984 Thought Crime Laws including definitions like "Anyone Stating a Radical Change to (US) Government is a Homegrown Domestic Terrorist" subject to Preemptive Detentions, SSS coding by HLS, etc.. Classified Sections.
The Speaker for all Demoncraps as Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, "Anyone returning from the Wars is a potential Homegrown Domestic Terrorist" (Guilty Until Proven Innocent).
Do you want me to continue.
By the way as far as anything the US Military does, it is not your squealing we, we, we:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDuriEQ-vd4
You can wait about 20 year under the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) to get the Mission Cams, Video Conferences to find out who was really calling the shots pertaining to the SR (Special Reconnaissance) Mission to Pakistan, that turned into a DA (Direct Action) Raid. I didn't see President Obama wearing a stereoscopic night vision device waiting to board the US Army 160th SOAR MH-60s and MH-47s at Bagram AFB. This mission was being planned ever since President Bush in 2006 Amended the US No Assassination Policy regardless of opposition of US Politicians (Harvard International Review 2006 article, "US No Assassination Policy On The Offensive"), as tasked to General McChrystal (US Army Special Forces, previous experience as the Commander JSOCTF Iraq locating and capture of President Hussein, previous Commander SOC) Admiral Olsen was not even on board at that time as later SOC, Admiral McRaven (USN SEAL, JSOC), Director of the CIA delegated to his SAD/SOG, etc. the Original Mission the Locating and Capture of Osama Bin Laden, considered as a Mission Failure the Termination of OBL as a last resort. Ask yourself how could President Obama order anything during the 23 minute communications blackout at the Whitehouse. Go research Delegated Presidential Authority.
it's time we understand we are way over our head in the Middle East. We can't force our culture on people that don't want it. We don't dominate the World anymore..... Other countries don't need us like they used to.... and resent us not acknowledging that. We do not relate to 11th century mentality and we should come home and focus our money and other resources here. Find a way to bring back USA manufacturing. We are just wasting billions of taxpayer money in the middle east and for nothing in return. Muslim radicalism is getting really tiresome. Let them have it all..... they either will get civilized or die on the vine in time.....
Mourned by all but obama; those are the HMIC's people, and they will not be held accountable; and he has refused to withold the two billion of our dollars scheduled to be sent to the same terrorrist! People wake up it may be too late, but we can still get some revenge with real leadership!!
A Democrat senator said to day it is just too late to withhold the money. hello! The bill has NOT been voted on so Harry Reid fix it! Oh that's right Obama won't sign it unless the money is still in the bill. HUH? They just murdered our people.
BTW...Obama cannot see the Israeli Prime Minister because he has to go on Letterman and beg for more money to keep the world safe and peaceful 4 more years.
Shut up NAM, no one cares what you think. You do a disservice to the memory of this ex SEAL.
Go suck on something raw.
And then when the next POTUS continues the drone attacks and the kill list, if it's not Obama doing it we will see lib and prog riots in the streets. And demands the big meanie close Gitmo.
jnap: My only disservice is failing to wish you were there and also dead; you are a POS very similar to the HMIC; your probably a raghead and will be dealt with accordingly; suck on someone elses raw thing; you dont have enough mouth for mine!! My post has nine approvals; your's will get your killed in the right crowd! Oh and there were two seals; either of which should be alive, and you dead!
NAM....right on!!!!
........Our fearless leader, the chosen one, the messiah --only has the Barney Fife type of security....Americans can only shoot beanbags.. not even a bullet in the pocket...ask the parents of dead Agent Brain Terry!!
If armed Marines had of been the security, the headlines would be...Americans kill, rape and mutilate defenseless children and women...Ask Jon Kerry about his lies to congress in 1971!!!!. Anti-Americans show up in many forms...ETERNAL VIGILANCE is required and all due caution afforded by our leaders!!!!
Our fearless leader, the chosen one, the messiah --only has the Barney Fife type of security(except for himself)....Americans can only shoot beanbags.. not even a bullet in the pocket...ask the parents of dead HERO -Agent Brain Terry!!
If armed Marines had of been the security, the headlines would be...Americans kill, rape and mutilate defenseless children and women...Ask Jon Kerry ( UNFIT FOR COMMAND) about his lies to congress in 1971!!!!. Anti-Americans show up in many forms...ETERNAL VIGILANCE is required and all due caution expected to be afforded by our leaders!!!! THAT is too much to ask of the Chicago MOB!!!
Nam, as the son of a veteran of "your war", you do a disservice to this country. Why don't you call it like you see it, vet? "hNic", because that's what you're basically saying. Didn't you get enough of the death & destruction overseas? Do you like seeing people splayed wide open? You're advocating the same on these shores with all the killing & whatev. Are you secretly gay? It seems so with the desire for JNAP to "suck on someone's raw thing - you haven't enough mouth for mine". What a homo.
And as a gay man, I can tell you definitively that no man's cock is too much for a mouth. Unless your brain is TINY! You're such a poseur.
BTW, 'poseur' is interchangeable with 'troll'. You probably got deferred from enlistment/conscription. I'm sorry... that had too many syllables. Perhaps you'd understand "deferred draft'. Like Cheney, Lott, Boehner, et. al.
Tundraphile you being queer as a football bat means nothing to me; the HMIC is Head Muslim In Charge! and has nothing to do with the African or black or whatever the terminoligy for today is! I enlisted, and cant discuss the draft with a draft dodger such as yourself; but you can suck openly now so sign up for some MIA, and friendly fire; there are troops out there got a surprise for you regardles of what the HMIC wants you to think!! Bet you voted for him; those four dead Americans blood are on your hands too!
I'm glad 'Nam vets still respect their country after what you guys went through, you deserve more respect than you got ( unless you were one of the lazies). Honestly if any American read what I read on the Vietnam War, they'd at least have a small insight into the hell you guys went through. Using children and women as weapons and mutilating bodies. This is why Obama doesn't care, because he doesn't and will never understand the gruesome solemn darkness of bitter war and what it is. He won't ever see brothers die on some foreign dirt for the sake of some fools wishes.
Obama is a fool, if men and women as honor-bound and wise as vietnam veterans understand this, than we should all honor them by supporting them. And to Tundraphile- We will not remember you, you are of the low-class fools who won't understand, and never will, and when you die, we will still kill. What you don't respect and understand will punish you for imputence and foul speak of your angels, the defenders of your life and home and family and their commiting of sin for the sake of your own freedom. Your absorption of new age ignorance will kill you and your blasphemer kind.
I only hope that for those who try to care it isn't too late to escape the carnage you have wrought upon them.
NamVet - my being as queer as a three-dollar duck and the fact that I called out Illinois State Senator Obama during his 2004 DNC Convention Speech in 2004 as the first black president has a high likelihood of irrelevance in this converso.
And I apologize for my disrespect of your service. Please understand: I was trying SO HARD to follow my father's footsteps - he was a linguistic specialist from '68-76. I was born the last day of '73 and I wished to follow in his footsteps. I took the ASVAB - got a 98 out of a 100. Was told that I could go into nuclear engineering - but all I wanted to do was lear languages. But then my sexuality came up and that was it.
Have to go home - more to follow. And again, thak you for being (relatively) civil.
NamVet - thank you for your service to our Country! Back during the Vietnam war I was one of those who purchased a bracelet with the name of a solider that was MIA or worse. Last year I finally got to pay my respects to the solider whose name I had, I left it at a Vietnam Memorial in Norman, OK. Unfortunately, the solider that I had died.....but I left bracelet at the memorial and I prayed that he had found peace. For me it was the end of a tragic era, one that should never have been, but it was. I pray everyday for our men and women who serve and will continue till the day I die. These punks like Tundraphile have no idea what our men and women who serve go thru day and night while we sleep in our comfortable beds in our heated and/or air conditioned homes....not having to worry about bombs being dropped on us......maybe since we have "don't ask, don't tell" he and/or she should sign up and serve our country and see what it's like. God Bless you NamVet and thank you again for serving our country.
The response to the attacks on our embassies should have been rapid and stinging.
Yeah but instead all they'll get is an apology from the jackass occupying our White House... It's a crying shame folks!
He didn't apologize you a$$. What do you want...another war.
Patti: He did in fact issue an apoligy, and has failed again to honor his pledge to protect America, and Americans; his is a muslim and a POS! Another war? When did this one end?
No NAM he did not. Shut up with your stupid comments!
The hell he didn't!
That's part of the Obama regime idiot.
Jnap: your an un informed POS who speaks through both his asses; you run off at the mouth and do not deserve to address me in any manner but respect, but it appears your head is so far up the HMIC butt you cant think straight!
NAMVET68-70: Totally agree with you-he did issue an apology-it's just that some of the asses here are too ignorant to read between the lines at the way he stated his apology. Hillary Clinton pretty much apologized too by saying the film was disgusting against a great religion-never heard a liberal say that about Christianity-but they will back up murderers that call what they do a religion. What a disgrace that our President apologizes for our country!
The command climate of our president is weak, wrong, unmanly, unwise and will garner no favorable response from radical Arab Muslims.
It sure doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this was a well laid out plan. I can't even imagine how hard those two men (SEALS) fought. This even makes it worse in my opinion. Why are our Marines standing guard without ammo? Is this true????
So the Democrats and Republicans who supported withdrawing troops then decide to leave troops that are not able to defend themselves? This is unbelievable. They need to stand in the ghetto for just one night unarmed and they would be running like a bunch of cowards. And this President flies around in a Jet in a safe country with more protection then what he gives these men in hostile territory. OMG who drinks this Kool-Aid.
Liberals a_holes and writers for NBC News of course!
And these are the "journalists" that were caught on the open mic yesterday deciding how they were all going to ask Romney the same question time after time. What a bunch of suck up worthless losers. No wonder NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN are losing viewers with a bunch of jackasses like that for "reporters". The is junior high stuff...let's really get him and look good. You looked like the jackass losers you are.
You will never find the media asking hard questions of Obuma. Instead they gang up and collude (supposedly competing news organizations!) to get Romney.
And lets not forget 2008's Journolist, the bright idea of Ezra Klein, the corrupt hack who now "fact checks" with the WP, where emails revealed a plot to collde and attack Obama critics and keep them away from the Wright/Ayers story and label any opponents as racist. Meanwhile the lefties continue to claim there's such a thing as "FauxNews" to cover up the real bias and leftwing media conspiracy. The real FauxNews is on the Left trying to re-elect Obama in the guise of journalism and reportage.
Not whining:
You are apparently the Kool-Aid consumer. See the post above with the link to the Mother Jones article. Nothing but right wing lies that people like you are too stupid to see past. MY GOD! You all automatically believe ANYTHING that makes the President look bad! Christ Almighty!!
Just think, for the same amount that we are spending on outsourced "private contractors" all these guys could've been surrounded by what, 15 Marines for the same amount of money?? If the budget (that you all want to slash) contains X dollars for security per consulate staff member which would you rather have, one guy at the equivalent of $300 a hour or 10 full time Marines for the same amount?? DUH!
Haigh, they just reported on the friggin news that these men HAD NO WEAPONS.
Can you see obama without security? Why would they be reporting this if they
had arms ???
They weren't Marines, They were part of a private security detail. It was a Consulate, not an Embassy but Regardless, it is unconscionable to have Private Security with no means to protect themselves or their charges. I believe an investigation should be immediately called for by Congress to sort out the particulars. If the buck stops at the president's door he'll definately rue the day he made a decision like that.
Weak foreign policy always leads to these kinds of problems. We need a president that knows how to lead and will lead.
Lion and actually loves our country enough to want to lead.
FY lion and Coco, you are so stupid it is beyond belief. you have no idea at all what transpired yet you spew crap. Go away, please!
yea, you would just love a president who would lob a couple nukes at them without thinking of the consenquences, new's flash, it's they're land, not ours, you play by the home team's rules or you go home. And the press statement was put out before the president was notified to try and defuse the situation, the president backed up those who work for the government, so he was not apologizing for it, no matter what you think in your perfect dream world.
Yeah, express that sentiment to the 250 families who lost a loved one in Lebanon under Reagan. Or, better yet, the 3000 families who lost a loved on on 9/11 ON AMERICAN SOIL BECAUSE OF INCOMPETENT, CORRUPT AND WEAK LEADERSHIP (OR LACK THEREOF).
How many top Al Qaeda operatives were killed by Bush IN 8 YEARS? HOW MANY TOP AL QAEDA OPERATIVES WERE KILLED BY OBAMA IN 3 1/2?
technically by treaty, it is US territory and this is not a baseball game.
its disgusting that people will still defend obama when he cant even stop himself from campaigning, he's already president but he cant even be a leader.
Some serious pressure has to put on all these countries to enforce the requirement to protect not only US embassies but all countries who have them as guests. If mobs can destroy and kill these diplomats then all will be facing the same thing down the road.
On a different note if a film that is alleged to be produced in the USA that blasphemes Islamic religion allows all the Muslims around the world to attack any American can a Christian nation start to attack any Muslim if an Imam or practitioner of that religion disparages their religion? Eye for an eye would surely lead to one heck of a mess.
If we didn't have an Illegal Muslim wuss for a presidrnt there needs to be a drone strike.
where were the drones this week Mr . President?
What I want to know is, What are we as Americans going to do about the killing of our people? Nothing?! We need some sort of retaliation for these crimes against our citizens. These muslim pigs just kill Americans at will while we do nothing except have our president apologize on our behalf.
We need to fly over these embassasies and bomb these groups of inbreed people attacking these buildings.
For every one of us they kill, we should kill a hundred. For every building they attack, we should destroy a city.
That was the moron Bush way................nice going...................he was also a f up!
Way to go, let's kill more innocent people. You're as bad as these terrorists.
patti: Those country dont contain any innocent people; where were you on 911?
The muslims do not value life like we do, they think it's an honor to die. Well maybe we should just grant their wishes for them.
Sheryl-1137681-that's the best idea I have read here-their wish should be granted ASAP!
My heart goes out to the families of all victims. May the Lord Jehovah will grant them peace and a pathway to Paradise. Amen!
Thank you for highlighting the irreplaceable life of an individual protecting those in diplomatic service attempting to share our way of freedom and democracy. The images and stories have been sickening. It would be nice if we didn't turn on one another in commentary and just come together as one in support of the sacrifice this man and all Americans who have lost their equally valuable lives in the hellpit called the middle east.
In a couple of days we could have a "peaceful march" at the United Nations. Specially since Pres. Obama also refuses to see the Prime Minister of Israel.
He is meeting with him and our ambassador to Israel says talkes are going well. So there HATER!
Chris, so Israel now determines what is best for the United States?
I happen to like the Jews but despise those that think they should determine our foreign policy.
@ Dianarose-3452256, and who do you presume should be a part of this so-called "peaceful" march at the UN? The Military does not take part in demonstrations, so, will it be you? You actually believe that crap that comes on of your mouth? At the UNITED NATIONS? Really? You don't think that the others Countries, who are a part of the UN, won't look at that as an act of aggession no matter the term of "Peaceful"? You are a so clueless.
@ jnap, you are just as clueless as your buddy Dianarose-3452256. I bet neither one of you ever suited up and went to war, but you sure are ready to send others to do your dirty work. Yes, you must be a Republican. DIPLOMACY, how about learning the word. How about a peaceful resolution without more blood shed. How about bringing the right people to justice instead of going after the wrong people, like Bush went after Iraq? How about letting the Commander-In-Chief do his freaking job, because as I see it, he's doing a great job. Israel doesn't have to work with us. They can tell us to go to Hell, yet, they choose to sit down and have a conversation, and say, that they are not against us. I think, with all things considered, that that is some progress. But, I bet you are just as clueless on Foreign Relations, as your boy Rombe.
Thank you Mr. Obama for your overseas policies. Did you also supply guns to the Libyans?
You know he does! The muslims are obamas chosen people. Why would he turn on them. He said in his book he'll stand b them thru thick and thin. Our American/muslim president. obama...
So Obama taking out all the top Al Quaida leaders with drones isn't good enough for you? Show appreciation you f ing moron!
GLLCSR Yes, people do stand up for their religion. What planet are you living on? Is this new to your kind? Are you a perve?
Chris, It is obviouse that you are a true liberal that has trouble understanding that Bush set the policy of getting Al Quaida leaders and not Mr. Obama. I am surprised that Mr. Obama did have the forftitude of following through with that policy. I suggest that you learn to look at both sides and not become a blind believer. Only a "moron" would believe that one person could do that all him or herself. HMMMM ---I wonder who informed Mr. Obama that it would be a good move politically to get him.
Who has said the attached SEALs were denied ammo?
Each one of the Americans seemed so special and gifted. These are such losses and we are all mourning
with their families. We would like to hear more about them and their lives.
From a former U.S. Navy Hospital Corpsman to another - I salute you and thanks for your service. You will be dearly missed by your many friends and military family, as well. RIP my friend.