I'm surprise of that also. What is going on that people would be so willing to leave their home land?

Confussed - 1578043

Not necessarily "leaving their homeland" but could be considered "spreading the faith", much akin to Christianity did in 15th - presents times in countries doing missionary work and converting the local populace. However, the Islamic faith did not start until the 7th century CE and is attempting to convert all infidels into what they believe is the "one true religion"

I sure hope the world does not have to go thru another 700 years before this subsides!

I get it confussed-1578054

Why can't I vote on this sight anymore? Many problems associated with this sight.

Why do most of the articles also mention the fact that it is a "low budget film", like that would make a difference, or too lazy to get creative and actually write something new?

skeeter

Why can't I vote on this sight anymore?

Go to the "account" at the top right of page. Make sure you are signed in. If you are, sign out. Then sign back in. Refresh after.

Of course there are Muslims everywhere. There are eastern European Muslims: Bosnia that are not Arab and Asian Muslims, Indonesia that are not Arab, the most profound misconception that all Muslims are Arab... wrong.

Two types of Muslims exist, Sunni and Shi'ite. The difference; Sunni Muslims are still following the word of Muhammad and "most"!, are non-fanatical. The Shi'ite Muslims follow the word of Ali, and this branch of Islam believe that Ali and his descendents are the legitamate successors of Islam. Most of the Shiite branch of Islam are "Jihadists",. Sunni's are most of the Muslims you see manning the cash register at the gas station and have lived here for decades and moved here to seek refuge from Shi'ite fanatics that hate a dwindling number of Sunni's.

It illustrates that people throughout the world are alike. We have them here in the U.S. as well as in other countries. The hothead radicals who will join any cause only to fight, putting brawn before brain, giving vent to their supposed rightness. Then there are mature, wise thinkers who will prevail. Always a storm before the rainbow. Time.

And this is sad

Confused,

Islam is making many majority Muslim countries uninhabitable for many educated Muslim elites. That is why many of them are leaving the Muslim countries and immigrating to western Christian majority countries like Australia, Canada, England, etc. The sad part is when they immigrate, they want to bring Islam with them, even though Islam is what created the conditions that made the country they were escaping from uninhabitable for them.

Steve R-gee no shi* did you have to ask mommy that?

I'm not surprised by there being Muslims "all over". I'm not particularly bothered either, as I'm just not really all that focused on what people do or do not believe. Doctrinal arguments and the like just don't hold that level of importance for me. What is troublesome is that some people would kill OVER A MOVIE. And lest someone says "but it's offensive", much as came out over the Mohamed cartoon spat several years back, many of the "anti-Jewish cartoons" that many in the Middle East created, such as one's that compared "the Jew" to Satan, Adolph Hitler (who exterminated them incidently), and the like were no less so. The argument should never be "do as I say, and not as I do"... Such a double standard is simply not reasonable...

All in all however, there's ways to express one's displeasure without resorting to killing; and as has also been said, resorting to that sort of response only serves to demonstrate what many are conveying with cartoons such as Mohamed having a bomb on his head. If the point one wants to convey is "we aren't all like that", the worst possible way to do that would be to react in such a way, that could serve to reinforce the idea thus presented. If someone wants to say "we don't go around killing people like this", which the terrorists in the specific do, do; one isn't going to be very successful in making this claim, if their MEANS to make it, is to go and kill someone... Actions do speak louder then words...

And no Alan, we don't need another Crusade, and we don't need more of that history replied in the here and now. This said, it might be about time for "the Middle East" to have it's own Renisaunce, if these acts are reflective of where many are still at. We evolved out of that past, and it is evolution itself which might be the answer. The problem is, that any real and meaningful revolution has to come naturally, it's a given people who have to come to it themself, as they procede on a path of "self discovery" if you will. All the external whatever, that some might chose to introduce by means of "regime change" or what have you, will do nothing to effect consciousness itself. That is something, which is entirely self driven...

There's a reason they're called terrorists, living only to terrorize, hate, and kill anyone who doesn't agree with them. We don't need to respond in kind, but we certainly have the right to defend ourselves and our citizens.

Anti-American protests have swept the Muslim world in response to the film, which insults the Prophet Muhammad.

Why is the media still holding on to this reason for the riots? We know it isn't the case that these riots were spontaneous and were actually planned to coincide with 9/11 and retaliation for the killing of Bin Laden. Our media is the problem. What happened to real reporting and real journalism?

Why is it that all Islamic nations have zero respect for other religions? Yet, they demand that the rest of the world respect their religion? The fact is that Islam, as taught by the head honcho mullahs, has zero tolerance for others.

confused: As to why people would leave their homeland, jack from jax is partially right. But, what way too many Americans don't realize is that the rest of the world doesn't think like us. Americans have a tendency to be very short sighted. Those from the old world, on the other hand, have a tendency to look at the long view. It has been known for a number of centuries that Islam has the view that the whole world belongs to allah as the view him. That's why you hear muslims not being content to take over a country. They admit that it is just a piece of the whole. Muslims have been coming to this country for a while. They've been fitting in and doing jobs that the rest of us do. Just look at the "situation" at the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport a few years ago with the taxi drivers. They've been hauling people with booze for years. After they got entrenched enough, they decided to flex their muscles. You'd think that if one really has objections to something then they wouldn't do it. Or, if they've been doing it for quite a while that it shouldn't bother them anymore. But, that's not they way they look at it. Now that they've started with this, they will continue to flex their muscle. Remember, they then complained about having to handle pork products at Target. People start "accommodating" these "religious" differences and before you know it there are 2, 3, 4 or more sets of rules. That's no way to run any business. Heck, I've had to work on my religious holidays. It's just a fact of life. You want a job you do what you have to do to have a job. Anyway, they'll keep coming until in a few generations they can vote themselves sharia law. That's the objective. Whether they get to that point or not is a different story.

Obama: US has 'profound respect for people of all faiths'

It's obvious that not all Americans share that feeling.

These wackjobs kill innocent people that had nothing to do with the video! The video barely had any views?!

So what if someone made an Anti-Islam film. Burning the American flag is a big buisness over there!

Ray in Jax

So now the President is approving NEA grants personally? Freedom of expression.... You want to eliminate that because some artist has offended you? You sound like them...

I don't believe Obama approved the grants personally, but the US government did approve them.

Obama did say that the US "has profound respect for people of all faiths." That statement isn't backed by anti-Christian art funded by the NEA.

Islam is going to need to answer a few questions. I ended up watching part of the film "Innocence of Muslims". In it I say depictions of events in Mohammad's life that are recorded in the Hadith. They were depicted in a stilted way, but this was obvious and rather campy. Still. Let's take one scene, the "rape of Safiyah. According to the Hadith of Ibn Ishaq and Bukhari, Mohammad led his Muslim army in the attack of the Jewish town of Khaibar. It was almost undefended and easily taken. He beheaded all the males who had reached puberty and sold the women and children into slavery. Safiyah the daughter of Huayy was princess of the tribe. Mohammad found her to be the most beautiful. He had her father killed, then tortured her husband Kinanna by lighting a fire on his chest, then had him stabbed to death. He married Safiyah that night and consumated the marraige. Safiyah has no historic voice, but I imagine that she was in shock and fear and not in love. By today's standards this is rape, not marriage.

The scene of Kinanna being stabbed was depicted in the movie. If Mohammad was beyond reproach, and his actions divinely justified, then why does this bother the Muslims? This is only a question.

The movie would have faded into obscurity un-noticed, but the Islamicists killed the ambassador and his mission (who had nothing to do with the movie) so now the movie is part of the historic record. Monty Python's movie "Life of Brian" was offensive to some Christians, but I never saw one murder result. If Islam responds to light criticism by such offense then they will continue to confirm the criticisms leveled by their detractors.

While I don't personally agree with what is funded, if we start basing grants based on religious criteria, aren't we putting religion into government?

Do the actions of the NEA speak for our entire nation? And how many pieces of art are we talking about? One infamous one with urine, or many?

We condemn the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims

Number one, that is not an apology.

Number two, it's already been shown that the statement was issued in Cairo after the State Department denied approval for the release of the statement.

Number 3, it was issued 4 hours before the attack on the embassy. How does one apologize in advance for the actions of others?

Try again...

If the statement from Cairo wasn't an apology, it was then condemnation of free speech.

The statement was not made by the President, nor was it approved by the State Department...........

From the article:

"Not so rough," shouted one as he was hustled away

I wonder if he was one who was carrying the sign that said "Behead all who insult Muhammad".

Security forces should stop using rubber bullets, hoses and tear gas. Change over to real bullets, arrange barriers to keep the crowds funneled toward the gun emplacements instead of barriers to keep them out. But be gentle.

We should cut off aid to any country that does not defend our embassies and personnel. ESPECIALLY those countries whose military we provide for. It is unfathomable that we have a yet another looming budget crises in January while Americans are struggling to survive and to find work at the same time we give billions to countries who not only despise us but who would kill INNOCENT Americans in retaliations for the actions of completely unrelated third parties. It is pure bull to blame the author exercising his rights as an American for the killings. The he made me do it garbage is unacceptable and the US appeasement of such nonsense is flat out wrong. It is amazing that they expect our government to strip our rights to appease their criminal acts and appalling that our government in any way would consider doing so. HOW WEAK! Since when do we negotiate with terrorists? We need to stop kowtowing to everyone and start being a world leader again. Why have we politically corrected ourselves into a corner to the point we wantonly allow violent people to dictate how we govern ourselves so as not to offend them. And our administration addresses their concerns?! DON"T GO THERE!

The White House should be supporting American rights whether or not anyone agrees with what someone makes a video about. A video that most of us have never even seen. I'm tired of the rhetoric games if Obama kept his mouth shut we'd have zero problems in Libya and Egypt. I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE UNDER MUSLIM LAW!

Before any side starts in on this, I don't like either candidate they both stink

Lance,

"the most profound misconception that all Muslims are Arab... wrong."

That's right. In fact, the majority (about 80%) of the world's Muslims are not Arabs.

These people look for any reason to cause a scene & kill someone. Why arent they protesting here in the US since this is where the movie came from? We take critisizm from our God all the time, but we are taught to love & pray for the ones who do not believe even more. What kind of people would we be if everytime something so stupid as some old mans wanna be movie had us running around the streets burning stuff & killing people? This just shows these people arent very smart and are a little mentally sick. You want us to have respect for you and yours but you have absolutely no respect for us. Go watch another cheesy youtube video & burn another flag so we can laugh at your stupidity.

alan3008

The "religion of peace" strikes innocent people again. How many more people need to die at the hands of these intolerant radicals? When will it ever stop? What we need is another Crusade.

You are aware that the christians were the losing side during the Crusades, right ?

What we need is an end to this false "war On Terror" and an end to the US occupation throughout the Middle East and the rest of the world.

They only hate the US because of our federal governments foreign policy.

Lance-2189665 #1.5~~Thanks for the info, which I was not aware of myself. Even though, I respect freedom of religion, I can see the difference in fanatical Christians and true Christians who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Those American Christian fanatics, need to understand, that within the Muslim religion, just as Christianity, some are good, civil, loving people and some are fanatics, who expect everyone to bow to them, and do as they say do. I am sure most everyone has heard of my home town, Murfreesboro, Tn, where we have many racist, bigoted, religious fanatics, who want a continuous, religious battle, against all Muslims. But thank God, we do have many true Christians, who also respect freedom of religion.

most white American folks, hate everything that does not look like them, act like them, and do what they tell them to do.

This is no different than the days of slavery in America, when you had the old white guy, bible in one hand, his 5/6/7 year old sons hand in his other hand, while they stood there with a mob of the Klan, watch his white Klan friends string-up, hang, and set a black man on fire. And I'm sure that old white man called himself a Christian

Let me get this straight, an Egyptian makes a derogatory movie about Muslims. Muslims react by attacking American Outposts. And YOU want to blame "white American folk" because our president lied.

The Australians joined in because they don't want their sh!t blown up. I got a feeling anyone that sides with the U.S., or this film rather, is gonna be free game by this "peaceful" religious bunch of fanatics.

I say screw 'em all. F@#$ 'em and feed fish heads. Eat cat sh!t and die. I'll bet Obammy wasn't speaking for all Americans when he begged for forgiveness. Not me anyway.

Okay all you Romney/Ryan supporters keep this in mind, if they are elected I can guarantee you we will either be sending troops to Iran or Syria, and that is besides the troops we have in Afghanistan. Now just where do you think all those troops are going to be coming from, the Nat'l Guard, and Reserves who are now finally getting somewhat of a break as Pres. Obama reduces the troop level in Afghanistan. I know many don't think that drawdown is fast enough but if left to McCain had he won election four years ago we'd still have a few thousand troops in Iraq, as well as Osama bin laden would still be hiding somewhere in Pakistan because he didn't want to devote troops to go looking for him. Oh yeah, and if Romney/Ryan win you don't think any of their children will be allowed to enlist or join the military do you. We already know Romney evaded the draft, Ryan wasn't even born yet.

The Obama and the left has profound respect for all religions......except catholicism, christianity, judaism, and mormonism.

Ed your way out in left field. Russia and China stand behind Iran. Any president would be stupid to pick that fight unless Iran did something profound against the US. ie nuclear attack. That's why the nut job running that country is so brazen. And while Syria makes us look like a nation of hypocrites turning countries over does not seem to do much good. The mobs just find something else to hate, usually us.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for pulling out of the countries who have been slaughtering each other over religion for centuries.

The profound respect of Obama and the left for all religions was clearly displayed at their convention when their party delegates booed putting any mention of God back into their platform. That sure was a profound statement. I give them that much.

armurray

So if you go out and make a factual statement. It's an apology? Well here is my apology to you: YOU'RE AN IDIOT! I hope you except it in the way it was intended.

GREATGRAN101....Trying to minimize Islamic hatred by making ridiculous comparisons to Christianity, serves no purpose other than to show once again that even so-called moderate Muslims will never denounce radical Muslims for the attrocities they commit! Sad!

Why do black americans want to make everything about themselves? Always have to bring up slavery. We weren't even born in that time and neither were you probably. I grew up as a Mayors daughter and living in the political world, let me assure you the slavery card doesn't work anymore it just makes you sound like a whiner about something you didn't even live through. So stop complaining about America and start contributing to it...after all you could go back to Africa and see how they live and come back praising God for your freedoms here that your forefathers suffered for to allow you to have that freedom.

yosolo: No they are all laughing at bloggers on this site!

one problem I have with the left on this issue is, obama was deemed so cool and wise when he took a moment to get all the facts, but when bush took time to get all the information after the attack on the worl trade center and not cause panick in a grade schoo,l he was scrutinized to the nth degree, please liberals explain this to me? And you may use as much spin as you like!

This wanna be president knows nothing about our history. We can indeed respect other religions, but you can bet they dont resepect our Christian Values.

I think James Kent said it best, one of our founding fathers and a newyork Supreme Justice,

We are a Christian people, and the morality of the country is deeply engrafted upon Christianity, and not upon the doctrines or worship of those imposters [other religions]...

James Kent, New York Supreme Court case

.whatever strikes at the root of Christianity tends manifestly to the dissolution of civil government...

James Kent, New York Supreme Court case

I am left wondering why we still give these governments and countries money. Their citizens are clearly a bunch of dirtbags who are too poor to buy weapons as they resort to throwing stones. How about this - get the heck out of the middle east COMPLETELY OUT - and let these radical freaks settle it among themselves. I am sick and tired of my tax dollars being wasted on these radical freaks who hide behind their STUPID religion and some WHACK named Mahommad.

BRING MY TAX DOLLARS BACK HOME!

PS I heard Saddam Hussein and Mahommad were gay lovers.

Sure, Obama respects all religions. Then he walks over the Contitution to shove his way or the highway down the throats of the Catholic Church.

When I listened to Hillary Clinton speak yesterday, I couldn't help but feel that she didn't feel the words that were no doubt scripted for her, didn't relay truthfully what she sees demonstrated in the attitude of this White House. I may not always agree with her politics, but I don't think she wanted to stand there and say something that was fed to her to "perform" I bet she would resign, except that she cares about the U.S. and doesn't want her mission and position totally put in the hands of one of Obama's ideologues. While she has to enact Obama's policies, she can at least for the time being, TRY to inject America's more traditional principles. If she had won the nomination and Presidency, or if McCain had won the election, we would still be AMERICA, not teetering on the brink of a sucked dry socialist government dictatorship. Cuba #2.

Marmaduke, we are not a "Christian Nation". That's a Theological Government, we work based on the principles of law and order. If we were really a Christian Nation, gays would be locked up and/or killed rather than celebrating and parading, and we'd likely be dragging our kids daily into the town square to be stoned for talking back. We wouldn't wear blended fibers, and The Bible Belt wouldn't have a BBQ/Pork House at every other intersection.

As for this entire fiasco... I'm really sick of them going on about their hurt feelings. All they wanted was a reason to wreck stuff. They were looking for some trigger, any trigger, that would let them unleash whatever built up wrath they had. Stop apologizing and start cooking up a batch of Napalm. We have people getting slaughtered over there because of a frelling film. They need to be shut up, our service men and the people that follow them over there deserve better than being a statistic in an Islamic Temper Tantrum.

Moshuluu, I agree with you, except I do feel the President was truthful. The US does respect all religions. It is the individuals who don't. Sort of like a company that stands behind gay marriage doesn't mean all the employees do.

Anyway, as far as the NEA argument, you are insulted that our government would fund a piece of art that taunts Christians, but you don't see anything wrong with what the filmmaker did? What if some Muslim in America made a film which disrespects Jesus and there were violent anti-American protests in other countries because of it? Would you still be so quick to defend the Muslim filmmaker? I know it is difficult, but try to see things from an opposing position before making up your mind about something.

WOW some of the comments are GREAT but MANY are the same old crap--

People you need to understand this---THE FILM is just an EXCUSE----everything thats going on now was PLANED---PRE=PLANED to jump off on 9-11. THIS MOVIE has GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT OTHER THAN AN EXCUSE!!!

Obamas "Im SORRY for AMERICA" TOUR was where this started---IF you look real close this smells of MUSLIM BROS,TALIABAN and Al-Quida---also note that THERE IS NO NEWS about the GOVT of IRAN and its quest for NUKES!

ALL SMOKE and MIRRORS ---and another thing to look at is the POSSABILITY of a "FALSE FLAG " move by OBAMA---Won't go into it but LOOK UP FALSE FLAG and LOOK real close at the EO--EXECUTIVE ORDERS and what the OBAMA can do with a PEN!

SOME INFO ON WHO BARRY REALLY IS-----

My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to1 man.

My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. He is the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). Go to:
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I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

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My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated
(it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is
being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'

YA ALL remember this--BARRY has had the SLIME BROTHER HOOD and OTHER RADICALS in our WHITE HOUSE MANY TIMES-----ALSO REMEMBER THIS----BARRY was raised as a MU-SLIME in INDO and was told when he came here by his COMMIE MENTOR to say he is a CHRISTAIN---this is in the BOOK LIES about MY FATHER---aka DREAMS!
I QUOTE OBAMM---
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" I ADMIRE RUSSIA, I HONOR THE RED NATION.' -FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS 1947-

BEFORE YOU SLAM ME YOU NEED TO CHECK OUT WHAT I POST !!!

TERRY ANDERSON, A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT

DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA HAS SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT.

GOOD LUCK and GOD BLESS our men and women in harms way!

"I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you @!$%# with me, I'll kill you all."
--Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders

"They told (us) to open up the Embassy, or "we'll blow you away." And then they looked up and saw the Marines on the roof with these really big guns, and they said in Somali, "Igaralli ahow," which means "Excuse me, I didn't mean it, my mistake"." Karen Aquilar, in the U.S. Embassy; Mogadishu, Somalia, 1991

"The above was brought to you by a DHS-CERTIFIED TERRORIST---A VIETNAM COMBAT MARINE-AMONG OTHER PLACES---a VETERAN with an ATTITUDE" jscusmc69 USMC RVN

Zathrose,

"The profound respect of Obama and the left for all religions was clearly displayed at their convention when their party delegates booed putting any mention of God back into their platform."

That's odd because I watched the entire Democratic Convention, and I do not recall any such event having occurred. Can you be more specific or is that simply more Republican disinformation?

Ray in JaxAgain, give us quotes. You can't because Obama has NEVER apologized for US policy or beliefs. Don't reply with "yes he has", simply reply with proof and a source....

Actual various remarks made by Obama in foreign countries, all on the web, are based solely on interpretation. Some call them apologies, some say they are not. Those that say he did not do so because the didn't say "I am sorry" or the "US apologizes". They feel those two words need to be included in order for it to be defined as an apology. Again, based on interpretation. The definition of apology is:

a·pol·o·gize
   
1. to offer an apology or excuse for some fault, insult, failure, or injury: He apologized for accusing her falsely.

2. to make a formal defense in speech or writing.

Here is just one quote of many listed that some feel are apologies. Based on the definition, you'll have to decide for yourself based on your interpretation.

Jan. 26 2008: "All too often the United States starts by dictating ... and we don't always know all the factors that are involved. So let's listen. And I think if we do that, then there's a possibility at least of achieving some breakthroughs. ... My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect."
-- President Obama, in an interview with Al Arabiya

But understand, others may have a different interpretation than you. So what makes anyone right in these circumstances? Most believe it is not a good thing to point out your country's flaws when you are standing on foreign soil. Most interpret that as a weakness.

It is our true policy to steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world. The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. – George Washington

Funny...Romney wants to be an American president...but he puts the major part of his money in offshore accounts like a foreigner...hiding it to avoid/evade paying taxes to America. No pride in being an American. The rest of us, the middle class, keep our money in the United States in local banks, mattresses, etc, allowing it to be used to grow our communities, our states, our nation! Romney uses all American resources to grow his money, the courts, the laws, the protection(police, fire,military) transportation, communication, etc.......and he keeps his money offshore not giving back what he owes to our nation.

Why would you vote for Romney when he doesn't do his part for America as a citizen? He wants to be president to skew and change laws to make the rich richer....offshore...not in America!

Vote President Obama/Biden and Team Democratic party 2012 for real Americans.

From the article: Some of the chanting protesters carried placards reading "Behead all those who insult the Prophet."

Perhaps the filmmakers are right, after all. The protestors seem to be taking a very one-sided position ... make us unhappy and we'll KILL you. Sooner or later, they'll start killing each other has they have done in other protests. When that happens, let them.

By the way, this isn't an anti-islam position. I'd argue the same thing if the protesters were Southern Baptists, for instance. Religious fundamentalism is one of the greatest perils facing this world.

Bush jr had 12...yes ...12 embassies attacked when he was in office.......anyone of you rt wingers want to join Romney in his mental wayback machine and retroactively want to attack the enemy? Stop off on the way and pick up F Troop and corporal Agarn on the way.

Romney

No wiser man in council had he been there in council.

No braver man in battle had he been there in battle....:Chief Shakopee Dakota leader

Boy, Hillary looks like she was ridin' hard and put away wet!

It's to bad Obama doesn't keep his mouth shut, He started at the DNC spiking the ball that he killed Osama, and the remark Joe bite me keeps repeating Osama is dead and GM is alive. Now when you do that your going to piss off some people and it was a few day before 9/11 so you put it together the film is not the problem it's Obama making sure the world knows who killed Osama.

OBAMA is begining to sound like that old Brenda Lee song:

I'm sorry, so sorry
That I was such a fool
I didn't know
Love could be so cruel
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

You tell me mistakes
Are part of being young
But that don't right
The wrong that's been done

[Spoken:]
(I'm sorry) I'm sorry
(So sorry) So sorry
Please accept my apology
But love is blind
And I was to blind to see
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

You tell me mistakes
Are part of being young
But that don't right
The wrong that's been done
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

I'm sorry, so sorry
Please accept my apology
But love was blind
And I was too blind to see
(Sorry)

Duqu

...

OBAMA WANTS TO TAKE AWAY YOUR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION!

OBAMA SUPPORTS THE U.N. ANTI-BLASPHEMY RESOLUTION WHICH OUTLAWS FREE SPEECH!

TIME TO KICK HIM OUT!

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If you want to learn more about Obama's policies on restricting free speech do your own research:

Obama Co-Sponsored UN's Free Speech Restrictions--With Egypt--in 2009

Inciting discrimination, hatred and violence is not protected by free speech in the US. If you post on the Internet that you need round up volunteers to go and burn down the homes of some Muslims, you are conspiring and that is punishable. That goofball writing the Breitbart artical ( Breitbart was another goofball) has some really wacky ideas.

Obama: US has 'profound respect for people of all faiths'............except those weirdo mormons!!

It seems the clueless one still hasn't figured out that profuse apologies not only don't work for the sons of the moon god but are considered by them to be a sign of weakness.

For them, apologies means carte blanche for more riots and murders because the spineless one in Washington will do nothing.

Wet Willy,

"It seems the clueless one still hasn't figured out that profuse apologies not only don't work for the sons of the moon god but are considered by them to be a sign of weakness."

So who apologized? Saying you have profound respect for all religions is hardly what I would call an apology! Obama went on to say there is no excuse for violence or didn't you notice that part?

@Mickey-1983943

You mean you watched all of the convention that the leftwing media wanted you to see. Here's a link where you can watch the video of what Obama and the left didn't want you to see:

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=10455

Mickey 1.91

You're joking, right? You claim to have watched the entire convention and didn't notice the embarrassing event where the vote to restore the mention of god to the democratic platform was booed and had to be taken three times, then forcibly restored despite the boos and the majority voting to the contrary?

Does your ideology block out such embarrassments?

Mitt Robmey/Lyan Ryan 2012 - NO Plan, NO ideas, no future....

(then again they may have an idea, they just don't want you to know about it until after the election. Sort of like Robmey's taxes - people may not like what they hear..LOL)

Funny...Romney wants to be an American president...but he puts the major part of his money in offshore accounts like a foreigner...hiding it to avoid/evade paying taxes to America. No pride in being an American.

StarSailing: Funny this article isn't about Romney, but about Obama's incompetance. If you want to look into tax evasion, start with the Pelosi's.

Nice try trying to take the attention off our lame duck president.

So we should hold the Koran and Mien Kampf in the same light as political manuals of how to manipulate a populous to achieve power.. It is always better to have multiple rally points when stirring up a mob mentality.. This way you can appeal to a larger group more easily.. After viewing the crude 12 min. video I see that all the scenes are based on historic facts recorded in several religious texts.. The outrage by the Islamists seems more out of embarrassment over those dirty moments by a not so saintly Mohammad.. He murdered and raped his way across the Middle East just as some of the Christian heroes did as well.. Islam has that one way door built into it that defines it as a CULT.. Severe penalties for leaving or saying anything negative about it for example.. In its current form it should be divested of rights as a religion just as any other hate organization..

@earthgirl

You really haven't figured it out.

Barack Obama says what will make you happy then does what will destroy our country.

Things Obama has said.

Deficit spending is a sign of failed leadership. paraphrased

I will cut the deficit in half during my first term. He's added 6 trillion dollars way more then George Bush did especially if you consider that after 2006 Bush was basically a lame duck President because the liberals controlled congress and could do anything they wanted. What they did was go on an insane spending spree. Look at the spending records year to year.

The US respects all religions? You didn't see Obama bus 20,000 Christians to the DNC Convention but he did bus 20,000 muslimes in.

We will bring the people responsible for these deaths to justice. Yeh right Obamas going to go to a country controlled by the muslime brotherhood and al-qaeda and arrest the people that killed our countrymen. No Instead he has sent them 2.5 billion dollars and will be sending them more shortly.

Time to wake up and see reality. Obama isn't the solution, he's the problem.

Just Google the CRA Lawsuit. It was the seed planted that turned into the Mortgage Meltdown by forcing banks into making bad loans.

Zathrose and Wet Willy,

"This resulted in a loud chorus of boos from delegates at the DNC convention for returning two of the four items, those concerning ″God-given potentials″ and recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel, back in the Democrat party platform."

Have you guys ever heard of the concept of "separation of church and state"? Of course not! How foolish of me to think you would have! We all know the Republican Party is entirely under the control of big business and the churches. That is why you cannot comprehend why Democrats think "God" has no place in a political party's platform. As for the matter of recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, that is entirely a matter for the Israelis, the Palestinians and the United Nations to deal with. It has nothing to do with the Democratic Party so why should the Democratic Party be concerned with it? It seems you guys would prefer to live under a theocracy such as the Iranians and others are forced to do, but I'm not with you on that.

It seems the clueless one still hasn't figured out that profuse apologies not only don't work for the sons of the moon god but are considered by them to be a sign of weakness.

Could you tell us how Obama's apology towards bin Laden is working out? Did Mr bin Laden accept Obama's apology or is he still offended?

The US respects all religions? You didn't see Obama bus 20,000 Christians to the DNC Convention but he did bus 20,000 muslimes in.

So there were 20,000 'muslimes' bussed into the DNC convention?

Unhappy....you spin the story to your rant......Their is no incompentence on President Obama's actions. Others like you take words out of context and pretend those words mean something else. There were no apologies. Every major news source has debunked the phoney lists sent out by the extreme rt wing haters.

As for Romney being an American, and wanting to be president of the United States, his loyalty is not to America but to the offshore accounts in any country he has them. His foreign accounts mean more to him than America. Romney has had 4 positions on Syria in the last 6 months. Flip flipping on Syria 4 times. As usual he does not know who he is on this issue either. Like repubs said the day he won the contest for repub candidate..."Everyone should like Romney, he has been on both sides of the issues one time or another!"When Romney was asked for his plan on Syria, he has no plan.....

When Romney had a choice in his youth to go to Viet Nam and serve he chose to be a chicken hawk and run away to France. Then in front of our troops and vets, he said he wish he was a part of it! Well all the coward had to do was not take the deferremnt and enlist. I don't mind draft dodgers, but when you say you wished you could have been a part of it..and ran away ..well that is the mark of a lying coward! Flip flopping coward. Mr. Pander Pants.

Romney for a worse tommorrow today!

ThaMonkeh

Marmaduke, we are not a "Christian Nation". That's a Theological Government, we work based on the principles of law and order. If we were really a Christian Nation, gays would be locked up and/or killed rather than celebrating and parading, and we'd likely be dragging our kids daily into the town square to be stoned for talking back. We wouldn't wear blended fibers, and The Bible Belt wouldn't have a BBQ/Pork House at every other intersection.

As for this entire fiasco... I'm really sick of them going on about their hurt feelings. All they wanted was a reason to wreck stuff. They were looking for some trigger, any trigger, that would let them unleash whatever built up wrath they had. Stop apologizing and start cooking up a batch of Napalm. We have people getting slaughtered over there because of a frelling film. They need to be shut up, our service men and the people that follow them over there deserve better than being a statistic in an Islamic Temper Tantrum.

Ya , i guess that all of those founding fathers and states, supreme courts didnt know what they were saying, when they said it. Go figure, I guess I should be like the rest of todays revisionists and just try to take god out of everything our country was founded on.

They only hate the US because of our federal governments foreign policy.

That's not entirely true. Islamic countries, by and large, have been kept under the thumb of brutal dictators. In order to keep the people suppressed, a dictator usually needs an implacable enemy. For them, the US served this convenient purpose. Passions against the US are being deliberately inflammed by the shrewd leaders of many Muslim countries. It helps keep the people in line.

Oftentimes, these are the same dictators who pretend to be our friends and take money from us. They are playing a double game - at the same time, they tell us they can keep the population under control and have a country friendly to the US.

All in all, the Arab spring was a good thing for us - in the long run - if they can maintain democracy. If they can have a leader who is elected and whose power comes from the consent of the governed, then the leader won't need us as an enemy, and the mistrust against the US will naturally subside. It has no natural cause. (The people who say that it is because "they hate us for our freedoms" or "they are just naturally violent"either have near-zero understanding of the situation, or are doing their best to inflame passions on OUR side.)

That is why the Obama Administration is doing its best to have democracies rise, even if these democracies elect leaders who are anti-US. Eventually, it works out to our benefit, even though the road to getting there is going to be hard.

The state run Egyptian TV governed by the Muslim brotherhood through Egypt's extremist hardliner President Mohammed Morsi originally promoted the YouTube video as a mechanism to incite riots, terror and destruction of American interests. Once the fire was ignited the Muslim brotherhood whose ranks include al-Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist organizations followed up by calling for nationwide protests "to denounce offences to religion and to the Prophet."

These plans were part of joint Muslim hardliner strategy firmed up and finalized during Morsi's recent visit to Tehran and aided by a perceived weakness in leadership within the United States. Islamic hardliners have concluded Obama projects a position of weakness as evidenced by his now infamous "apology tour" and that he is currently so focused reelection he is even unwilling to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu or Israel's Defense Minister Ehud Barak. To the Muslim world, Obama’s actions present a perceived platform of weakness enticing radicals to unleash their Pandora’s box of protests as a slap in the face to Obama and to American interests around the world.

Americans posting comments in response to these events seem totally unaware that the vast majority of Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. The definition of an infidel is a 'non-believer?' In the event some may fail to understand the significance of that Islamic command, all followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of their faith so they can have a place in heaven. In effect they have been commanded to kill everyone in this chat who is not a Muslim.

I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those not of your faith or Dr.Chas. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee themselves a place in heaven!'

I also have a problem funding Islamic leaders who are telling their followers to kill me!

Islam's Sharia Law which promotes a prime directive found in the Koran ordering followers to: "Seek out, find and kill all non-believers." Muslims are overtaking and destroying countries like France, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Sweden and the United Kingdom. It is this very Sharia Law that dictates beheading, female genital mutilation, stoning of women for adultery, honor killings, forced and arranged marriages, women cannot leave their house without a family male escort, separated swim times at pools for males and females and complete subjugation of women by men.Homosexuals are to be killed. Abortion is haram and not allowed in Islam,but Muslim are allowed to kill their daughter if she refuses to marry the man they had chosen for her. Muslims hold to a belief that that it is permissible to steal money and property from non-Muslims in order to distribute it, but if they steal from each other the offender's hands are to be cut off.

The challenges for America are obvious. Unfortunately, current White house leadership seems determined to marginalize America at any cost.

Whether you are a grandparent, parent or young adult, the upcoming election portends unprecedented implications for the future of America. It would be a great injustice for any American to go to the polls this fall without being fully informed!

Those who diligently seek the truth will find compelling evidence Barack Hussein Obama II is not a true American Democrat, but rather a closet Marxist whose dangerous anti-American and anti-colonialism agenda has metastasized into a pathological cancer on our society.

America has hope, but only if clear thinking Americans take action to unseat him and allow America to govern from a position of strength offered by moral integrity, economic prosperity, and job opportunities not found in the socialist hell into which our current leadership is driving us.

armurray

Ray in Jax

Obama did say that the US "has profound respect for people of all faiths." That statement isn't backed by anti-Christian art funded by the NEA.

so let's pretend that Obama is wrong and that the US DOES NOT have a profound respect for all religions.

which religions don't we respect and why. Please list them.

Mickey 1.102

You're certainly one amazing bird. So who apologized? Is this statement from your "hero" something that came out of thin air for no particular reason, just because he felt like saying it at this exact time?

Your ideologically damaged brain doesn't see this as an apology?

Let's not overlook your response 1.109.

First you claim to have not seen or heard the embarrassment of attempting to include God back into the democratic platform. However, you now acknowledge this embarrassment but now ramble on about the separation of church and state. It was your democratic party that chose to include God into its platform despite all the boos so why have you chosen to even mention the republicans? After all, this is your party doing all this.

Yes, they also restored language declaring Jerusalem to be the capital of the Jewish state but you again ramble on about this issue being a matter for others to resolve.
You finally insist this Jerusalem issue has nothing to do with the Democratic Party completely oblivious that the fact that your Democratic Party considers that it has everything to do with it which is why they restored the Jerusalem issue back into their platform.

Apparently you see and hear things that aren't there. Is it the meds?

@bayllie

which religions don't we respect and why. Please list them.

See above for the list.

Obama: US has 'profound respect for people of all faiths'

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

BULLS**T!!!!!!

Obviously Brokeback Barrack doesn't visit the Liberal blogs and comment boards, especially Newslime, Huff-N-Puff post, MenialMatters and others.

The filth and profanity spewed if you're a Christian, Mormon, Jew or any other Faith is amazing. Of course we all know the limp-wristed Liberals are all just misguided and indoctrinated because they are incapable of independent thought and existence, so they hide behind their "secularism".

It's because people of Faith are so much more caring and giving than the cabal of atheists, agnostics and other pagans, they have to project their hate, rage, vitriol and racism. Yes, racism. Little do they know that blacks are predominantly (79%) very religious. If you extend this to the alleged "tolerance" that Liberals have for the GLBT mob it exposes their racism even more.

Blacks are also more likely (64%) than whites (48%) or Hispanics (43%) to say homosexuality is morally wrong. These are both from the PEW Research Center.

This is obviously a well orchestrated attempt at projection, as we know that many voted for Barrack Hussein to pretend they aren't racist. Hopefully they don't expose their ignorance any further and repeat the same mistake again this November.

As far as Barrack Husseins Muslim “religion of peace” is concerned, it’s even more BULLS**T! There are over 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. If these Islamic fundamentalists, more appropriately terrorists, make up the small percentage everyone claims, where is the outrage and reprisal of all the “good” Muslims to rid their religion of these fanatics?

When the Liberals finally admit their hypocrisy, then Barrack Husseins statement is just more empty political posturing that we’ve seen for almost 4 years. As American embassies, consulates, schools and businesses burn throughout the Middle East and more Americans are killed Barrack Hussein dithers and flip-flops as usual when confronted with crisis.

Since his famous apology tour originated in Cairo in 2009 the Barrack Hussein foreign policy is an abysmal failure. The illiterate and unwashed masses in the Middle East don’t understand peace or governance. For over a millennia they have only understood strength, power and intimidation. Once those barriers are removed they see weakness. This is where we are today. This is nothing new in the history of Islam, it’s a lifestyle.

This ridiculous notion that some “movie” caused all this is nonsense. Islam caused this uprising. It’s no coincidence that this uprising occurred on the 11^th anniversary of 9/11. The problem isn’t Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood or other extremists it’s Islam. Islam spawned all these terrorist groups. Until the Nation of Islam addresses this, problems will continue.

Barrack Hussein was raised and educated as a Muslim and wrote that, “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

The political winds have shifted in a very ugly direction.

With whom do you stand today Barrack Hussein?

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans

"Shoot first and aim later" AGAIN.

POTUS and SofS blame the "riots" on some video without having the investigation(s) being complete. What will they call the gangs responsible for the riots and slayings when the investigation is complete ? "Unhappy Internet Users" instead of "terrorists" ?

Sounds just like comments on the Trayvon Martin case before an investigation was complete, charges filed, or a jury conviction.

Voted for Mr. Obama in 2008 ? Embarassed yet ?

Romney-Ryan 2012 to take back America from the Progressives and the Radicals.

Dear Marmaduke... you sound exactly like the people who planned and did this. You want your religion respected, you want the majority, you want your book to be signed into law, you want to strip the freedoms of others in the name of whatever is in those pages that you herald so much. I don't give a shart about our founding fathers. Heck, half of the stuff they used to do has been criminalized in our recent laws.

As for removing "God" from everything? I'm a firm believer in SEPARATING CHURCH AND STATE. Also, please be in mind that some of the founders of this country were Deists, not Christians. Several religions came together to CREATE this country, the original motto of the United States was "E Pluribus Unum", Not "In God We Trust". Yet I don't see you, or ANYONE fighting to get the motto that founded this country back into print and part of our proud heritage, you keep screaming to force God into everything.

President Obama is speaking for himself to the World.

There is a deep, profound hatred of religion in the United States today--

There is repulsive hatred of people who believe in G-d, people who believe in an Organized Religion, Anti-Islam, Anti-Semitism, Christianity, Mormonism, and the list goes on. Atheism reigns large in the US. We must respect them as well. Choice.

We are a Divided Country---that includes our religious or non-religious beliefs.

No one can force a Religion on anyone here in the US.

Obama must use different words to speak to the Middle East---the Middle East/North Africa does not understand or respect any other religion who does not believe in their G-d. The only G-d that all the World should believe in is Allah. He is the one and only in their barbaric minds.

Soft peddling in a gentle way to speak to Radical Islam. Not good.

Wet Willy,

"Your ideologically damaged brain doesn't see this as an apology?"

Unlike yours, my brain is not damaged by any ideology, and, no, I do not see it as an apology. Did you see the words "I'm sorry" or "Excuse me" or "I apologize" or any words of a like kind in there? I certainly did not. But I did see the words "There is no excuse for violence". When you say there is no excuse for something, you are definitely not apologizing for it.

"It was your democratic party that chose to include God into its platform despite all the boos so why have you chosen to even mention the republicans? After all, this is your party doing all this."

If, as you claim, it was my Democratic Party that chose to include God in its platform, then I am embarrassed for them. God has no place in politics. He is not a politician and is not running for office or do you have some direct phone line to God's office that tells you otherwise?

"they also restored language declaring Jerusalem to be the capital of the Jewish state but you again ramble on about this issue being a matter for others to resolve."

Because it is a matter for others to resolve whether the Democratic Party declares Jerusalem the capital of Israel or not. That is not the Democratic Party's nor the Republican Party's position to determine what the capital of Israel is. We do not control Israel. It is a sovereign nation or haven't you heard about that?

___________________________________OBAMA/PANCHO VILLA 2012____________________________

LA99999

Moshuluu, I agree with you, except I do feel the President was truthful. The US does respect all religions. It is the individuals who don't.

Yours is the exact bull@!$%# I was talking about. Do you read these blogs, do you see the hate and resentment for Islam, for Romney's Mormon Church? America does not respect all "ANYTHING," America is "TOLERANT" of most things. As I stated, "the President knows better than the statement he made," BUT, as a politician, and leader of America, what else could he have said? I stick by my statement below:

the President knows better than the statement he made. There is no way in hell for that statement to stand when you read blogs/news article responses like those here and across the internet. It is quite evident, most white American folks, hate everything that does not look like them, act like them, and do what they tell them to do.

I see the white community has had my comment above (1.67) collapsed, yes, it was the white community, they are they ones who in all truthfulness CANNOT handle the truth. For you white folks who say "get over slavery," do you idiots understand this country fought a civil war over slavery? Do you idiots understand this is part of America's history? Do you tell the white folks who fly the Confederate Flag to get over it? No you don't. And let me tell you'll something from my heart"

I RESPECT A WHITE MAN WHO CALLS ME A @!$%# TO MY FACE, BEFORE I WOULD RESPECT ONE OF YOU WHO HIDE BEHIND YOUR WALLS AND CALL ME A @!$%#, I DON'T TRUST YOU, BUT THE ONE WHO HAS GUTS TO ADMIT IT, I KNOW WHERE HE STANDS, THE REST, ARE HYPOCRITES.

AS I have stated before, as a MAN, I personally do not care for white folks, I tolerate ya'll, and the white friends I have understand, respect, and accept me for my truthfulness.

Another thing, don't go off on your ignorance rants about me, I am 64 years old, and VERY WELL OFF financially, so don't go to preaching your stupid "I'm dependent on government," I own 48 acres of land, paid for, a 4700s/f house built in 2006, paid for, 3 cars, paid for, no bills except for living expenses, a very lucrative pension thanks to investments I made, including annuities I saw fit to buy 20 years ago. Life is good!!! and so is the Lord.

Some of you should try telling the truth. Hell, America was born of the same violence that is going on in the Middle East, you know, your ancestors stealing this land from American Indians, your holier than thou religion (Christianity) calling them SAVAGES, unfit for living, trying your best to kill all of them, than what do you do, kidnap black folks from Africa to build this @!$%#ing country. The problem with most white folks is, they cannot accept the past their people played in killing off American Indians, and participating in slavery, but, on the other hand, there are many of you who wish like hell you could put us "back in our place."

Not this one buddy, no @!$%#ing way.

OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!

Laspos

Its easy to exercise your freedom of speech, while innocent people that don't necessarily agree with your sentiments have to endure the wrath of your words.

I see. So lets take away our freedom of speech? Let fanatics dictate what we can and cannot say? Blame the guy who expressed his opinion about Muhammad and Islam instead of the murdering maniacs who attacked the embassies and murdered people? Are we so scared that we are going to let these brainwashed extremists rule our country and chip away pieces of our freedom of speech?

What we should do, since they still murder people over a movie or the burned pages of a book, is close our embassies in those countries, stop sending them help and money, and stop communicating with them altogether. Leave them to themselves.

Protect our freedom of speech. Blame the murderers, not the guy who made a movie.

Take Note: There are lots of Muslims in Russia and China. Do you see them rioting? The jhadists know weakness when they see it. They know who will re-act swiftly and deadly and who will wimp out and appologize. They use the freedoms of our country and the weakness of our administration, if that is what it is, to gain a many footholds here as possible before he gets sent packing. Americans respect freedom of people to practice whatever religion they want but it is just like free speech. When you start yelling fire or placing bomb threats or in this case killing people in the name of your so called religion than all bets are off and you are not fair game.

Ray in Jax - just because you are too lazy to search for the Obama apologies, it doesn't mean they don't exist. You can try and explain away the apologies Obama has made since day 1, but most of us are smart enough to understand pandering and apology when we hear it, whether it contains "I'm sorry" or not.

Youtube offers many examples of listing of apologies and examples.

Bottom line is that the Middle East unrest has NOTHING to do with the silly video, which before it was blamed, had only 8,000 views prior to the murder of our people in an act of war in Libya and Egypt.

Our panderer would rather appease, and alternatively use cowardly drone strikes, and then blame a video rather than himself for Islamic hatred of our nation.

These actions are an orchestrated attack on the US, which began on 9/11 to be sure we got the message. And yet this president with zero leadership uses his spokespeople to lie about all of this and blame a video rather than his policies and his assassinations, which have increased 500% over 8 years of the Bush presidency.

Liberals are obviously two-faced liars, as they would routinely criticize and threaten death to Bush for actions that they are absolutely fine with as long as Obama is doing it.

Leaders lead, Obama follows, complains, and looks for excuses, while politicizing murder. Weak, unqualified and disgusting.

Shaking my head,

"There are lots of Muslims in Russia and China."

Oh, I think the Chechens have been doing something much, much worse to the Russians than merely rioting! If rioting were all the Russians had to worry about from their Muslim minorities, it would be a good day for them. Could that be because the Russians are weak?

Mickey-1983943

So, does that mean you are in favor of the Obama who "respects" the animals killing our citizens in the name of thier religion? You don't think "I respect your religion" is a weak or worse response to what has been done to fellow Americans on what is supposed to be soverign territory??

Shaking my head,

"You don't think "I respect your religion" is a weak or worse response to what has been done to fellow Americans on what is supposed to be soverign territory??"

I think that what was done to our embassy was atrocious, but are you trying to tell me that it was Obama who attacked that embassy? I don't believe it was. And if you want to talk about "weak" vs. "tough" just remember that it was under "tough", cowboy Bush's administration that the World Trade Center was attacked in the first ever terrorist attack on American soil. That kind of undermines your weak vs. tough argument right there, don't you think?

Hard to believe the response to the Mideast violence by the Obama administration has been to attempt to quash free speech, pressuring youtube to take down the video and then when they refused, having the Justice Department pull the filmmaker in for "questioning". I may not like the filmmaker's approach, but I will certainly stand by his right to free speech.

"I don't believe it was. And if you want to talk about "weak" vs. "tough" just remember that it was under "tough", cowboy Bush's administration that the World Trade Center was attacked in the first ever terrorist attack on American soil. That kind of undermines your weak vs. tough argument right there," - Mickey

So, Mickey, tell us how Bush was "tough" on terrorists BEFORE 9/11. You can't because he was only tough AFTER 9/11. AFTER 9/11 and Bush's subsequent toughening up, there were no more terrorist attacks on American soil and less attacks on American diplomatic interests globally in his 7 remaining years in office than Obama has had in the past week.

This is really starting to look like the whole thing was instigated by fanaticals. Whoever made this film was not trying to bring people to Christ, because if one knows anything about Christ, this wasn't the way in which Christ worked or approved of. The Libya riots were planned before this film. Some were spreading lies the film was made and financed by Jews... Now we have many who are being separated from the teachings of their Saviour by the lies and fanaticals. "Oh ye of little faith". I don't think God is happy about any of this.

Mike in SA,

"So, Mickey, tell us how Bush was "tough" on terrorists BEFORE 9/11. You can't because he was only tough AFTER 9/11. AFTER 9/11 and Bush's subsequent toughening up"

Bush was not tough on terrorists before 9/11 and that is why 9/11 happened, and after 9/11 he signed the so-called Patriot Act which had a significant impact on our freedom. Now tell me, why were you bitching about Obama's attempting to "quash free speech" and coming out as one who is so concerned about personal freedoms when you said nothing at all about the Patriot Act that Bush signed which was probably the biggest assault on Americans' personal freedoms in hsitory? Can you spell "hypocrite"?

Who's to blame for the protesters attacking the German embassy and restaurants? How are they connected to a silly, poorly made 13.51 minute video?

Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood have aligned them self with the Democratic party, and all we hear is crickets from the MSM. Please take a minute to watch this very informative video & share it with like minded Patriots. You will not see this anywhere in the MSM. The truth.

http://youtu.be/Ip4t0is1_Eo

"Bush jr had 12...yes ...12 embassies attacked when he was in office.......anyone of you rt wingers want to join Romney in his mental wayback machine and retroactively want to attack the enemy?" - starsailing

I've called you out on this lie before. It was just over half that number. But hey, as you liberals would say, why let honesty get in the way of a good story.

As it now stands Bush has had less diplomatic interests attacked in 8 years than Obama has had in the past week.

"just remember that it was under "tough", cowboy Bush's administration that the World Trade Center was attacked in the first ever terrorist attack on American soil" - Mickey

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"Bush was not tough on terrorists before 9/11 and that is why 9/11 happened" - Mickey

Are you kidding me??? In 17 minutes you make polar opposite claims. Make up your freakin' mind dude. You're laughable in your ridiculous rhetoric. I mean I'm not even going to go after your inane claim that the 9/11 attack was the "first ever terrorist attack on American soil". Hell, it wasn't even the first ever terrorist attack on the World Trade Center! Stop it! I can barely type I'm laughing so hard!

"Now tell me, why were you bitching about Obama's attempting to "quash free speech" and coming out as one who is so concerned about personal freedoms when you said nothing at all about the Patriot Act that Bush signed which was probably the biggest assault on Americans' personal freedoms in hsitory? Can you spell "hypocrite"?" - Mickey

See, just more blowhard rhetoric, spewing things you know nothing about. I'm a Libertarian...not a friend of the Patriot Act. I'm very distrustful of its use and have made that plenty clear to anybody who knows me.

Mike in SA,

"Are you kidding me??? In 17 minutes you make polar opposite claims. Make up your freakin' mind dude."

You don't seem to understand the difference between the words "before" and "after". You should have learned the difference between those words when you were still just a little toddler so if you don't know by now, I am not going to try to explain the difference to you now.

"I'm a Libertarian...not a friend of the Patriot Act. I'm very distrustful of its use."

That's nice to know. So why didn't you mention it when you were beating up on Obama for "quashing free speech"? Was it because it was not convenient to mention it when it was Obama you wanted to blast? And by the way, what does SA stand for? South Africa? South America? San Antonio? What?

Mickey-1983943

And if you want to talk about "weak" vs. "tough" just remember that it was under "tough", cowboy Bush's administration that the World Trade Center was attacked in the first ever terrorist attack on American soil.

Hmmmm, are ya sure there Mickey?

Lemme see, where is that information. Oh, here it is. I’ll give you some clues.

Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khaled Sheikh Mohammed.

Need more?

February 26, 1993

This was the real “first”, first ever, terrorist attack on American soil. The truck bombing of the WTC. This is the one you Libbies always seem to forget. Could it be because it happened during your boy-toy Billy “Blue Dress” Clintons presidency?

I thought so.

Try to keep up Spanky

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Some of you folks really are scary. You'll back any policy or any politician, simply due to the letter after their name. Of all of Obama's apologies,(and he has given many), the one that offended me the deepest, was the one he gave to Pakistan after their soldiers attacked us. This apology was given not too many months ago, and it seems everyone has forgotten.

This is 2012,(indisputable fact). Obama is currently our President,(indisputable fact). Your whole outlook should be based on a few simple questions.

1: Were our embassies attacked?

2: What do you personally think we should have done about it?

3: What did we actually DO about it?

4: What year is this?

5: Who currently occupies the White House?

None of this has anything at all to do with Bush, Cheney, Halliburton, Pelosi, Bill Clinton, the Patriot Act, Enron, FOX news, msm, NBC, CBS, illegal immigration, WMD's in Iraq, $500 toilet seats, the Democratic/Republican national conventions, or 5,000,000 other issues that are being used to deflect the asking of a few simple questions.

Some of you would serve yourselves well to quit parroting your parties talking points, and think for yourselves.

JimSpence,

"Could it be because it happened during your boy-toy Billy "Blue Dress" Clintons presidency?"

I know all about the 1993 attack, but I was not referring to that one, obviously. You are correct, however, in calling it the first. I was referring to 9/11 which occurred on Bush's watch. That was the one that actually brought down the Twin Towers. The 1993 one was a failed attempt. But now that you mention it, the 1993 attack should have been a warning to Bush about what was yet to come which, perhaps, makes his failure to prevent it even more damnable.

Ya , i guess that all of those founding fathers and states, supreme courts didnt know what they were saying, when they said it.

@Marmaduke ... perhaps you can present proof that the US is officially a "Christian" nation? I don't know of a Supreme Court ruling that says any such thing.

Mickey 1.124

Poor Mickey. You are typical of those swallowed up by your ideology, and it seems you may be the only person on the planet that doesn't or refuses to see Obama's apology for what it is. This, of course, isn't the first time he's apologized to the muslims but I suspect you're in denial about all those other apologies as well.

So what now for you? It seems you're also attempting to distance yourself from the democrats for their inclusion of God and the Jerusalem issue back into their platform.

You're all alone now out in the cold. Where will you go?

Militant (Fundamentalist) Islam is demonstrating its total incompatibility with Western values and bringing mainstream (moderate) Islam into disrepute while straining Western tolerance for religious diversity.

Militant Islam is a lose-lose message for everyone, and doubtless it will be the same message their martyrs will eventually receive from Allah. Rot in Hell.

Wet Willy,

"Poor Mickey. You are typical of those swallowed up by your ideology"

Gee, it's really nice to see that you, unlike poor me, are not "swallowed up" by your own ideology! You are so ideological, Wet Willy, that I already know which side you are going to take on any given issue before you even post anything. It's as if I can almost read your mind.

moshuluu

This is no different than the days of slavery in America, when you had the old white guy, bible in one hand, his 5/6/7 year old sons hand in his other hand, while they stood there with a mob of the Klan, watch his white Klan friends string-up, hang, and set a black man on fire. And I'm sure that old white man called himself a Christian.

You know what moshu, you're absolutely right.

Both Robert Byrd (D-WV), who was a Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops, and George Wallace (D-AL) the Liberal revered Segregationist, were both Christians.

It's a shame they're not still around so you guys could sit around and sing Kumbaya about Barrack Hussein.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans

Mickey-1983943

That was the one that actually brought down the Twin Towers. The 1993 one was a failed attempt.

6 killed and 1,042 injured.

ONLY in the convoluted mind of a Liberal can this be considered a failure.

Your hypocrisy is only surpassed by your delusion.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans

ONLY in the convoluted mind of a Liberal can this be considered a failure.

One doesn't have to be a liberal to call the 1993 attack a failure. It was a failure because it didn't achieve its planners' goals of bringing down the tower. If we were to adopt your viewpoint, we could call, say, the German offensive in December, 1944 (the Battle of the Bulge) a success because it resulted in Allied deaths. But, historians wouldn't agree with you. They also won't agree with you that the 1993 attack was a success.

BarryNJ,

"One doesn't have to be a liberal to call the 1993 attack a failure. It was a failure because it didn't achieve its planners' goals of bringing down the tower."

You tell him, Barry! You beat me to the punch on that one. I was going to say the same thing. The fact that it killed people is irrelevant. They failed to achieve their goal which was to bring down the Twin Towers. I really don't understand why these people think everyone who disagrees with them is a "liberal". That boggles my mind.

At the rate there going the Muslim religion is losing all respect it once had, and will probably lose any respect it could of had for years to come.

My Freedoms are not up for grabs, just because Terrorists think they can spin it however they want, does not mean I'm stupid enough to fall for it.

Most of the mainstream media (meaning not Rush and fox) and factcheck will tell you Obama did NOT issue apologies. If you want to interpret it that way it is YOUR bias.

As far as Marmaduke declaring us a Christian country, you are wrong. Most of the revered founding fathers were deists and there are many quotes from them outlining their feelings about religion and government. If you want to see it in an official document go read the Treaty of Tripoli. Written in 1792 during Washingtons last term and signed by Adams it makes very clear that we are in no way a christian country.

As far as the post regarding Romneys "successes", yes he was successful as a vulture capitalist. He would buy companies, many being very viable, have the companies take out so many loans that they couldn't afford to pay them, then have them declare bankruptcy, meanwhile keeping all those loaned funds as "fees" and also taking all the jobs and the pensions of the employees, leaving them with nothing, but with Romney and his partners getting very rich. Bain was also on the cutting edge of outsourcing, there is even a video of him extolling the great possibilities for him and his company by outsourcing to China. And the republicans in the senate keep filibustering a bill removing tax incentives for companies which ship american jobs overseas. As far as his success in Mass, they hate him there, Obama is polling more than 20 points ahead. Mass fell to 48th in job creation during his term and companies were leaving the state in droves. Finally with the Olympics, sure it was a success, he took over 150 BILLION dollars from the federal government to do it. You didn't think he did it on his own did you?

This whole ignorant hard-line Islamic radical mess can VERY easily be solved by a few well-placed hydrogen bomb blasts. After we'd take out the first two or so, starting with Mecca, then one of the other idiot Muslim-radical hotspots, the dimwit terrorists might think before they start killing innocents again. If not, keep the bombing coming on the most radical targets until they get the ____ing idea. The ONLY thing these nutcases respond to is FORCE, just like in WWII!!

Islam is like gun - doesn't kill people, people kill people. Any arguments for owning gun can be used to argue for Islam. If you support owning gun you shouldn't have any trouble supporting Islam.

starsailing...What I see you mostly bittchin' about is FREAKING MONEY! It's NOT YOUR MONEY, so what do you care what Romney does with his? Obama is"investing" OUR MONEY offshore more than Romney ever has or is. And we get NO return on our "investments"..we are funding Brazil, Mexico, China, to drill for oil, so that WE can BUY it from them. We get to pay for it, and pay for it. Finland, Denmark, Columbia, Dom. Republic can create jobs, for their people with OUR money while too many American families are scraping by on welfare and unemployment. There is a whole LOT more at stake here than where and what Romney does with HIS money. Like, oh I don't know, freedom, independence, taking control of your own future? Are you afraid you'll have to disengage from the govt's. udder? No more free cheese? You like being a ward of Big Brother? A dependant? Is that what's worrying you fella? You have a really no clue of what the real threat is to America, while you are focusing on MONEY and being pumped full of class envy/class warfare. Believe me, THAT is the LEAST of our problems.

Over and over and over, people who hate Obama are saying: "Obama apologized."

Over and over and over, people who are tired of ridiculous spin are saying: "Show us where he apologized. Give us the quotes."

Over and over and over, those who hate Obama provide no quotes by Obama or his administration. That is, aside from a few people who think "respecting others religions" while simultaneously comdemning the violence and radicalism that has led to these violent protests is an apology. Uhh.. how warped in the head do you have to be to hear "I'm sorry" in the words "Yet there is never any justification for violence .... There is no excuse for attacks on our embassies and consulates." Or are some of you so warped that any response other than "BOMB THE @!$%# OUT OF THEM!" is considered by you to be an apology?

The truth is, there has been no apology. The truth is, Obama has done wonders insofar as foreign policy is concerned. The truth is, Romney was lambasted by members of his own parties for making the exact same comments some of you are making. And the truth is, some people are so set on hating the president, that it isn't about facts, or evidence, or even outcomes. It's about spinning everything they can into a negative against him. People like that aren't interested in debate. They aren't even interested in seeing good come to this country. They are only interested in tearing down someone they have decided is their "enemy."

I'll use different sources in case someone wants to say these sources are "biased".

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39529199/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/t/us-apologizes-attack-pakistani-soldiers/#.UFUvaq68VFs

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/07/clinton-apologies-to-pakistan-announces-supply-route-127966.html

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/23/10485148-obama-apologizes-to-afghanistan-over-quran-burnings-2-us-troops-shot-dead?lite

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/07/03/Obama-admin-apologizes-Pakistan

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/now-with-alex-wagner/48096200/#48096200

The truth about any issue is all around you if you choose to seek it out rather than parrot political talking points.

1: Were our embassies attacked?

2: Did diplomats and U.S service members die?

3: Did the current occupant in the White House do anything about it?

'Nuff said

" ... If a Secret Service or FBI agent told you that your son was acting up, it would be a little different than if your next door neighbor told you that your son was acting up. Would it not? ... "

No. But it would get my attention quicker if the Secret Service or the FBI did.

But no, it wouldn't make any difference at all.

Then again the Secret Service, the FBI and the NSA have showed up at my folks door and asked questions about me before. So ....

Nope, not at all.

A SWAT Team or a Seal Team? Now THAT might make a little difference!

GI Joe,

You're right. The truth is all around if you look. And I look around and still see that no one has supplied any quotes of Obama or his administration apologizing those who attacked the embassies/consulates. Everything you cited are previous apologies. So again, all the claims that Obama has apologized to the attackers in these recent attacks are either misdirection or lies. And, should we really be considering the opinion of someone who offers up misdirection and lies?

Also, to answer your questions:
1.) Yes

2.) Yes

3.) Yes. In fact, "look around you for the truth" of Obama increasing security at all the US embassies around the world. Working with the Libyan president to find those who did this. To make clear that the U.S. tolerates all religions but DOES not tolerate violence directed against us. And tell me exactly where any of that is a misstep?

Also, if you want to get in a debate about the apologies you posted, I'd be glad to have that debate. Let's start with the one with the Pakistan supply lines (that you essentially posted several links to -- was that to look like there are more apologies? More misdirection perhaps?). One of the direct quotes from the links you posted is that the administration withheld that apology until all the information was in, deciding that we had made a misstep. Of course, anyone who wants to claim Obama was kowtowing to Pakistan would be laughed out of the room, given that he went around Pakistan to get Osama when it was clear that they weren't doing enough. It's called trying diplomacy first. Perhaps people are unfamiliar with it since we had 8 years of Bush II's "shoot first" foreign policy-- which did us zero good. Don't believe me? Take an honest look at the accomplishments in the realm of foreign policy between Obama and Bush II.

Anyway, the point I was making in my first post is this: people who hate Obama are claiming he apologized to the recent attackers. He never did. Thus, those people are the ones either parroting the talking points of their candidate, Romney (who again, has been condemned by many of his own party for his comments on this) or they know they're outright lying. Either way, why would anyone listen to, debate with, or pay attention to someone like that?

Anyone wants to discuss facts, I'll be glad to debate you. The spin-doctors and liars however are not worth my time (or anyone's time, for that matter).

Well Mr. President, I don't respect of bunch of murdering SOB's. Yet, you still waste our time and Western Civilization's time in trying to reason with animals whose breeding pool has shown that between 25 to 75 percent of the Middle East are first cousins marrying each other. That coupled with a fanatical cult following that controls every aspect of their lives is a recipe for complete failure in the realm of reasoning with them. They only understand brute force and that is how we need to deal with them. They hate us because we simply exist and what we represent. Talking time is freaking over. Cut off all aid to Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Morocco, etc.

CarolC123

Bain was also on the cutting edge of outsourcing, there is even a video of him extolling the great possibilities for him and his company by outsourcing to China.

Will you Libbies please STOP with the incessant whining about outsourcing? If Barrack Hussein would have spent some time dealing with the issues needed to reform our economy instead of blaming everything and everybody for his failure we might be bringing industry back to our shores.

Where is the investigation, audit and reform of the Federal Reserve and its criminal monetization of our debt. Now Bernanke is going to inflate the money supply by $40 BILLION EVERY MONTH until the job market recovers. This is its third round of “doing the twist” with bonds and all it’s done is made the banks and corporations wealthier. It’s balance sheet has already swelled from $600 billion to over $3 trillion. What if it takes 2-3 years before jobs begin to return? That’s another trillion dollars that we will be responsible to repay.

Where is the trade reform we need to compete in the 21^st century markets? NAFTA, the WTO and other trade agreements should have been addressed and reform begun.

Where is our tax reform? Regulation reform? Unions reform? Energy policy? Education reform? And all the other policy changes needed to compete in the new global economy?

NOWHERE!

If you’re so concerned about outsourcing why aren’t you screaming at Jeff Immelt, Barrack Husseins Job Czar, about the tens of thousands of jobs GE sends offshore? Have we heard about GE touting themselves as champions of the factory worker? Of course we have. GE has also recently closed more than 20 factories, shifted avionics and radiology businesses to China according to Reuters, and pushed for public policies that will allow them to continue that course.

GE is self-identifying "core" manufacturing interests, as though its other manufacturing interests simply vanished from the books. The truth is, they closed many of those plants here in America. According to GE's own records and statements, it had 125,000 U.S. manufacturing jobs in 2000 compared to 50,000 in 2010.

Government records show at least 38 events since 2001 in which workers at GE plants in the U.S. were made eligible for trade adjustment assistance due to outsourcing or import competition. Immelt has referred to China as GE's "second home market".

How about your favorite outsourcer Apple? Apple claims responsibility for creating, or supporting, 514,000 jobs in the United States. 304,000 of those jobs are described engineering to manufacturing to transportation. 210,000 jobs are from their applications mobile operating systems. Among indirect jobs counted in the supporting category are jobs conducted by other corporations toward theirs such as FedEx, UPS, Corning and others.

But more importantly are the 230,000 jobs in China. These workers are subjected to long hours, coerced overtime, improperly disposed of hazardous waste, falsified records and harsh working conditions at the plants that build the bulk of iPhones, iPads, Macs and other Apple products. More than half of the factories had violated at least one of the company’s codes of conduct and in some instances violated the law. Last year, two explosions at iPad factories killed four people and injured 77. Apples total overseas presence including contractors is estimated to be over 700,000 jobs.

You Libbies need to wake up. Our outdated Keynesian economic model is starving our recovery. This is more of a problem than the few jobs that Bain may have outsourced.

Carol, tell me exactly how many jobs Romney has outsourced?

And the republicans in the senate keep filibustering a bill removing tax incentives for companies which ship american jobs overseas.

Which Bill is that? If you can give me the Bill Number I’ll be happy to find it and research it myself.

The only Bill I know of that has been passed recently is the one that passed from the Senate Finance Committee. With only one day’s notice to the public, the Senate Committee on Finance approved a package of tax “extenders” that included two provisions that will force taxpayers to pick up a $12.7 billion tab over the next two years by reinstating expired loopholes and tax preferences that allow some multinational companies to shift income offshore and avoid U.S. taxes.

The Committee retroactively extended two tax provisions known as the “active financing exception” that will add $11.2 billion to the deficit and the “controlled foreign corporation (‘CFC’) look-through rule” that will cost $1.5 billion, according to estimates by the Senate Joint Tax Committee. Temporarily inserted into the tax code years ago and extended ever since, the two measures had expired at the end of 2011. Each rule make it easier for multinational companies to stash their U.S. earnings offshore and avoid paying tax on them. General Electric, Pfizer, Apple, Google and J.P. Morgan Chase are some prominent companies that have used these loopholes in the past.

I’m sure you know the Senate Finance Committee has 13 Democrat members vs. 11 Republicans. The final vote was 19-5.

Is this the Bill you said was being filibustered?

Now why would your savior Democrats vote for a Bill that allows those mean, nasty, greedy, corporations to hide money overseas?

Thinks about it hypocrites.

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armurray

So if you go out and make a factual statement. It's an apology? Well here is my apology to you: YOU'RE AN IDIOT! I hope you except it in the way it was intended.

I can't let this one go.

If I said "I was an idiot", I would consider that an apology from me. But calling someone you disagree with an idiot and calling it an apology just makes you an idiot.

ThaMonkeh

Dear Marmaduke... you sound exactly like the people who planned and did this. You want your religion respected, you want the majority, you want your book to be signed into law, you want to strip the freedoms of others in the name of whatever is in those pages that you herald so much. I don't give a shart about our founding fathers. Heck, half of the stuff they used to do has been criminalized in our recent laws.

As for removing "God" from everything? I'm a firm believer in SEPARATING CHURCH AND STATE. Also, please be in mind that some of the founders of this country were Deists, not Christians. Several religions came together to CREATE this country, the original motto of the United States was "E Pluribus Unum", Not "In God We Trust". Yet I don't see you, or ANYONE fighting to get the motto that founded this country back into print and part of our proud heritage, you keep screaming to force God into everything.

There is a difference between forcing people to a denomination, and preferring people in leadership who are christians. John Jay, founding father, first supreme court justice , said this is a christian nation , and that we should elect people who are christians into leadership. You may not care about our founding fathers , but I do. It seems that america wants to shift away from why we came here and live in a country with out religion at all, to allow people to freely express their christian views. You may believe in Church and state seperation, but it doesnt exist any where in any of our founding documents. I know where the phrase came from , and what its original intent was meant. Yes today in a study they took, 67 % of americans actually think the words Separation of Church and State actually are written down in our founding documents, this is crazy. Dont people ever do any research on their own, or do they just come to newsvine and listen to this brain washing rabble. Hey if people want to shift away from what our country was founded on, im fine with that, lets just take America and split it into 2 americas. West America can be Liberal new world order, and Easy america can be the conservative, fundamental , original america. That is the one I will be living in.

As for our founding fathers being deists, is hardly the truth,

Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Of the 55 delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, 49 were Protestants, and two were Roman Catholics (D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons). Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Church of England (or Episcopalian, after the American Revolutionary War was won), eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists.

A few prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical Christians, such as Thomas Jefferson (who created the so-called "Jefferson Bible") and Benjamin Franklin. Others (most notably Thomas Paine) were deists, or at least held beliefs very similar to those of deists.

Here is another link

http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html

Im not screaming to force God on anyone, but I am standing for the freedoms we are to have as Christians and not be afraid of people who are offended because they dont believe. This isnt a muslim, or a hindu, bhudda nation, it is a Christian nation, founded on Christian principles, and all other religions are imposters according to James Kent, a NY supreme court Justice

.whatever strikes at the root of Christianity tends manifestly to the dissolution of civil government...

James Kent, New York Supreme Court case

We are a Christian people, and the morality of the country is deeply engrafted upon Christianity, and not upon the doctrines or worship of those imposters [other religions]...

James Kent, New York Supreme Court case

CarolC123

Most of the mainstream media (meaning not Rush and fox) and factcheck will tell you Obama did NOT issue apologies. If you want to interpret it that way it is YOUR bias.

As far as Marmaduke declaring us a Christian country, you are wrong. Most of the revered founding fathers were deists and there are many quotes from them outlining their feelings about religion and government. If you want to see it in an official document go read the Treaty of Tripoli. Written in 1792 during Washingtons last term and signed by Adams it makes very clear that we are in no way a christian country.

Quite Wrong as i just posted to show someone else who said such thing.

As for the treaty of Tripoli , at that time were with the pirates of the Barbary Coast and not the Muslim nations or Tripoli. As Adams stated, it is true, we are not a theocracy, as many of the Muslim countries were at that time and if we had been they would have not wanted to make treaty with the US. Because we signed this treaty does not mean that our country is not founded on Judeo-Christian values as evidenced throughout the symbology of our early currency, structures and symbols. And innumerable quotes of the early Founders. The citizens of the United States at that time were overwhelmingly Christian, so he obviously wasn't referring to that either.

To try to use these words of John Adams from a treaty with Tripoli as proof that our country is without Christian roots is a weak argument. John Adams also said the following:
“The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God. “ (Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson (Washington D. C.: The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904), Vol. XIII, p. 292-294. In a letter from John Adams to Thomas Jefferson on June 28, 1813)

My paintings do not promote that we are a theocracy or even a Christian government. My paintings promote that our Constitution was divinely inspired. I believe in the literal interpretation of the First Amendment--government should keep its nose out of religion.

There is always a reason why they said something like in the treaty. It is overwhelmingly clear that the Christian faith was strong and it wasnt some taboo subject like people make it to be today.

Another issue

Article 11

Article 11 has been a point of contention in disputes on the doctrine of separation of church and state as it applies to the founding principles of the United States. Some religious spokesmen claim variously that — despite unanimous ratification by the U.S. Senate in English — the text which appears as Article 11 in the English translation does not appear in the Arabic text of the treaty, that though the English phrase is not an untrue statement since it is referring to the federal government, a number of the founders described America as a Christian nation, or that the quotation is based on an incomplete reading of Article 11.

Barry-NJ

Ya , i guess that all of those founding fathers and states, supreme courts didnt know what they were saying, when they said it.

@Marmaduke ... perhaps you can present proof that the US is officially a "Christian" nation? I don't know of a Supreme Court ruling that says any such thing.

John Jay, the first chief justice of the United States, appointed by George Washington, wrote to Jedidiah Morse Feb. 28, 1797 (the same year the Treaty of Tripoli was ratified), “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers. And it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of a Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”

idal v. Girard’s Executors (1844): The Court produced a ruling which said, "Christianity is not to be maliciously and openly reviled and blasphemed against, to the annoyance of believers or the injury of the public." The Court’s decision asked the question, "Where can the purest principles of morality be learned so clearly or so perfectly as from the New Testament?"

Holy Trinity v. United States (1892): The Supreme Court cited document after document from American history and concluded, "There is no dissonance in these declarations. There is a universal language pervading them all, having one meaning; they affirm and reaffirm that this is a religious nation." The ruling states bluntly, "This is a Christian nation."

United States v. Macintosh (1931): The Supreme Court declared, "We are a Christian people...according to one another the equal right of religious freedom, and acknowledging with the reverence the duty of obedience to God."

Now I am going to show you the Shift in court rulings and thinking since the Anti Religion views are taking over.

Notice how these ruling all talk about some Wall of Separation, which is something they have clearly misused. Its something that doesnt even exist, and was only said for one reason to ensure that a specific Denomination would not be the state Church, the Danbury baptists freaked out when there was talk about the Congressional Denomination becoming a state religion. So Thomas Jefferson took care of that. Even then, the phrase he used, was taken from Roger Williams, founder of Rhode Island, who also organized the First Baptist Church of America.

In early 1947, an entirely new agenda gripped the Court. In Everson v. Board of Education, the Supreme Court ruled that the First Amendment erected a "wall of separation" between church and state which must be kept "high and impregnable." Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black, author of the decision, stated, "We could not approve the slightest breach" of that separation. The Court cited no precedent from previous rulings. The case was an official betrayal of America’s Christian heritage.

{You know there is a lot people dont know about Hugo Black. There is more to this case that most people think. Hugo black had been a member of the KKK for some time. One of the things KKK hates more then black people , and that is Catholics. Back in the 40's There were a lot of Catholic Schools, Hugo Black had his agenda. }

The Everson case put forth a radically new idea: "separation between church and state" -- a removal of religious principles from government.

Our Founding Fathers placed the First Amendment in the Constitution specifically to prevent such erroneous rulings. The fact that we are a nation based on the Word of God has been restated throughout our history.

From the time of Everson until today, decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court have helped to bring about the greatest decline in American civilization. It was as if the Supreme Court had declared a bloodless revolution in America -- a revolution more subtle than yet just as destructive as the Russian revolution under Lenin. Over the next three decades, we witnessed a stream of liberal court rulings that gradually reshaped who we are as a nation.

Engel v. Vitale, Murray v. Curlett, and Abington v. Schempp (1962–1963): Within two years, three separate cases effectively removed prayer, religious instruction, and Bible reading from America’s public schools. At about the same time, students began to be taught that there is no God, no absolute truth, that the universe is a cosmic accident, and that they evolved by the chance collision of sea-slime molecules and are the same status as apes. Since then, God, the Bible and prayer have been replaced in our schools by drugs, handguns and condoms. How can anyone deny the correlation?

Florey v. Sioux Falls School District (1979): The Court ruled it unconstitutional for a student to ask at a school assembly, "Whose birthday is celebrated on Christmas?"

Grove v. Mead School District (1985): The Supreme Court refused to remove from the required curriculum of a class a book that referred to Jesus as "a poor white trash God."

Other Supreme Court rulings in the past thirty years have stated:

• It is unconstitutional for a war memorial or any public monument to be designed in the shape of a cross.

• It is unconstitutional for public schools to teach biblical doctrine or principles; however, the Bible may be used in a course on history or comparative religions.
• It is unconstitutional to post the Ten Commandments in public schools. The Supreme Court gave this reasoning: "If the posted copies of the Ten Commandments are to have any effect at all, it will be to induce the schoolchildren to read, meditate upon, perhaps to venerate and obey the Commandments. This...is not a permissible...objective."

Founding Father Benjamin Rush foresaw the danger of these court decisions. Two hundred years ago, he warned:

"The great enemy of the salvation of man, in my opinion, never invented a more effectual means of extirpating [removing] Christianity from the world than by persuading mankind that it was improper to read the Bible at schools."

Since 1947, our tradition of faith and our rich history of allegiance to Almighty God have been systematically stripped away, while most of the church has been slumbering. By officially declaring that America has turned its back on God, the Supreme Court and the majority of our public institutions invited evil into our midst.

Also some extra tidbits for you to read on what our founding fathers thought.

John Adams, America’s second president and the same one who signed and sent the Treaty of Tripoli to the Senate, just one year later delivered these words in a military address Oct. 11, 1798, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

And to what religion is Adams referring? He gave us an answer when he wrote Thomas Jefferson June 28, 1813, “The general principles on which the Fathers achieved independence were the only Principles in which that beautiful Assembly of young Gentlemen could Unite. … And what were these general Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all these Sects were united.”

Patrick Henry wrote to Archibald Blair Jan. 8, 1799,”The greatest pillars of all government and of social life: I mean virtue, morality and religion. This is the armor, my friend, and this alone, that renders us invincible.”

Charles Carroll, a signer of the Constitution, wrote to James McHenry Nov. 4, 1800, “Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion whose morality is so sublime and pure. … are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”

John Quincy Adams, America’s sixth president, spoke at an Independence Day celebration in 1837, “Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer’s mission upon earth? That it laid the corner stone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity…?

Andrew Jackson, our seventh president, pointed to a Bible as he lay sick near death in 1845 and said, “That book, sir, is the rock on which our republic rests.”

Marmaduke ... what you've done is taken private writings, portions of rulings, etc... to make your case. I want to see something with the force of law that declares the US to officially be a "Christian nation" and subject to "Christain" law.

Where is the investigation, audit and reform of the Federal Reserve and its criminal monetization of our debt. Now Bernanke is going to inflate the money supply by $40 BILLION EVERY MONTH until the job market recovers. This is its third round of “doing the twist” with bonds and all it’s done is made the banks and corporations wealthier. It’s balance sheet has already swelled from $600 billion to over $3 trillion. What if it takes 2-3 years before jobs begin to return? That’s another trillion dollars that we will be responsible to repay.

Repay what? The Fed is buying existing debt in the marketplace, not creating new debt. To argue that its purchases of debt are increasing our debt burden is like arguing that if Citibank buys treasury securities from JP Morgan, the level of outstanding debt has increased.

STUPID THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE MOUTH OF OBAMA

While giving a speech at the US-Mexico border:

"Maybe we should build a moat?"

The answer to the question (my link did not go through) about the tax question for outsourcing is Bill #3364, which 42 republican senators voted against.

CarolC123

Carol, S.3364 or the "Bring Jobs Home Act" is a joke.

This bill has multiple parts. The ones regarding outsourcing would disallow the tax credit of any business expenses associated with such outsourcing. It would also create a new tax credit for insourcing, that is, if a corporation relocated itself, or any unit of its business, from outside the U.S. to our shores it would receive a 20% tax credit.

At first glance this seems reasonable. The problem is twofold. First, the disallowed tax credit will just be met by the country the business moves to. The same goes for any incourced jobs. Usually ths host country or state will grant this, if not more, to get the companies jobs.

Next, the amount of money involved is basically insignificant. According to the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation, this bill’s deduction disallowance provision will only raise about $14 million per year.

That’s 14 million, not billion!

It would seem you'd be much more outraged by the “active financing exception” extension that will add $11.2 billion to the deficit and the “controlled foreign corporation (‘CFC’) look-through rule” that will cost $1.5 billion, according to estimates by the Senate Joint Tax Committee much more than a $14 million saving.

Knee-jerk reactions are not uncommon. You need to research these Bills to find out which ones really matter. Not that $14 million isn't a lot of money. You and I could probably live very nicely off it. But in the larger scheme of things it’s a waste of effort in comparison to a $16 trillion National Debt and a $122 trillion in Unfunded Liabilities.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans

Barry-NJ

Marmaduke ... what you've done is taken private writings, portions of rulings, etc... to make your case. I want to see something with the force of law that declares the US to officially be a "Christian nation" and subject to "Christain" law.

They viewed this as a Christian Nation. Im not saying you have to, or anyone else. It , Christian Religion, was a huge part of their lives, how could they not be influenced by it ? They defended it, and didnt have a problem talking about it in court cases. History is written, I cant change it, and if people dont want to believe what they said, then that is any ones personal opinion. I see their faith as plain as day, they didnt have issues showing it. Unlike todays society and super shift away from any such early american mind set.

Byron Raum

They only hate the US because of our federal governments foreign policy.

That's not entirely true. Islamic countries, by and large, have been kept under the thumb of brutal dictators. In order to keep the people suppressed, a dictator usually needs an implacable enemy.

Ah, but it is true, because the majority of the time these dictators were or currently are sponsored by the US federal government and our tax dollars. The Iranian Revolution of '79 was due to the UK's MI6 and the US CIA ousting the democratically elected Mohhamed Mossadegh because he wanted to nationalize the oil Britain was stealing. He was replaced by the UK/US puppet Fazollah Zahedi (Operation AJAX). Or how about Jallaludin Haqqani, Saddam Hussein, Ghadafi and numerous others ?

Marmaduke49 - Bravo! Well done and very interesting historical facts. Truth, when it is heard, always rings true after it is spoken.

"The Libyan attack and the U.S.-directed outrage have raised questions about Obama's handling of the so-called Arab Spring, a series of revolutions that have unseated entrenched authoritarian governments."

Amateur Hour by our Amateur in Chief.

Is it you Terry Jones? You do realize that the demonstrators can read your words too? Better to be part of the solution then to be part of the problem.

You do realize that the demonstrators can read your words too? Better to be part of the solution then to be part of the problem.

Please explain to us Julianna or should I say Fatma exactly what the solution is, If your solution is to prohibit freedom of speech to appease Muslim Radicals then you simply do not understand why our country exists, We do not fear these idiots and will not have our freedoms abridged simply because they do not like what is being said.

But "we" Americans also have a responsibility to act reasonably with all of our freedoms, including freedom of speech. Terry Jones and the other pigs are abusing our open system to deliberately inflame a situation and start violence. If these pigs involved only themselves, that would be an entirely different situation. Yes, we have "freedom of speech," but exactly why are they trying to start mayhem and violence? Why are they acting so irresponsibly, knowing that they are endangering others and unbalancing world affairs? What is behind the evil that they are trying to bring about due to their total lack of respect for their fellow human beings, both here and abroad. A protester was quoted as saying that they wanted to expel the U.S. ambassador to "punish Washington" over the film, so the irresponsible actions of the Florida pig ARE being attributed to our entire nation, not just the Florida pig and his fellow traitors, and this is a major problem. We ought to throw these guys on a plane and drop them over Tahrir Square and maybe they can clonk some Muslims on the heads with their bibles or something.

Pattie...Who gets to decide what is acceptable and what is not, You would surrender your rights to free speech in the name of security, What else will will you surrender to feel safe and after you have given up all your rights who will protect you.

The fools who beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who kept their swords.

It's a real fool who wants to fight a war of religion. Read your history. Rights are supposed to be exercised with reason and with responsibility. As the saying goes, you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater. We Americans should NEVER be put in the position of laying American lives on the line do to the--yes--criminal--behavior of a pig who obviously wants to incite violence and, in an act of supreme anti-Americanism, incite hatred for the United States. This pig and his ilk are trying to start wars. He is endangering our lives. You can't hide behind the old "freedom of speech" cliche to defend this one.

I want to know who here in this country is inciting this hate the Muslim faith garbage. Why are they doing it? And most of it seems to involve the right-wing crap Christians, the dumb fundamentalist Protestant jackasses, who seem always to involve the rest of us Americans in their stupid sect. Notice I did not attack all Christians, just this group. We are not interested either in joining their shenanigans or in defending their asses.

@ Lost,

The solution is to lie down and die like a good infidel should.

@ Julianna,

While Jake's comment might be a touch crude yours is off the wall! Who elected you civil rights Nazi of newsvine anyways. I guess to be tolerant you need that PC touch to it, is that it?

IRESPOND-2315268

It figures I was wondering when someone would blame the Republicans. So what is Obama doing about this? Calling on you tube to check the video, while Americans are getting killled. Hillary Clinton's comments were over the wall too. There can be no excuse for the actions going on in the Muslim world. I have not looked at the video yet, but to condem a nation for this video is wrong. They never need a reason to hate the U.S. they just do.

It's a real fool who wants to fight a war of religion.

I do not want to fight a war of religion, I however will fight in a war to protect my right to free speech and the right to practice the religion of my choice including no religion at all

Read your history. Rights are supposed to be exercised with reason and with responsibility. As the saying goes, you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater.

You can yell fire in a movie theater if there is a fire, The maker of this movie is a Coptic Christian from Egypt, Last I heard they were killing Coptic Christians in Egypt and throughout other parts of the Mideast.

But this is not a movie theater, This is a movie made by an individual expressing his views on Islam, This person is entitled to make this movie just as you are entitled to be outraged against it and post your views here or anywhere in this country.

We Americans should NEVER be put in the position of laying American lives on the line do to the--yes--criminal--behavior of a pig who obviously wants to incite violence and, in an act of supreme anti-Americanism, incite hatred for the United States. This pig and his ilk are trying to start wars. Please state exactly what criminal behavior this individual committed,

He has broken no laws and is therefore protected under the right to free speech and expression.

Just take a few minutes to read some of the post on these and other threads where people say some pretty disgusting things about other people, religions and other countries, This is all protected and is not different that the movie this guy made, It is all protected under our right to free speech.

He is endangering our lives. You can't hide behind the old "freedom of speech" cliche to defend this one.

I can and will, I have fought and would again fight for his right to express his personal views, Do you think Obama/Biden running around saying Osama is dead and Gm is alive is any different, many of the signs in these protest have Osamas name on them so according to your thought process Obama and Biden are responsible for sme of this violence.

Jake2247: Said like a true christian.

Actually, earthgirl, it was said like a person who is tired of all the crap these supposedly "peaceful" Muslims are piling on the world. Who knows? Jake may want to use napalm on idiots like the Westboro bunch, too. I know I want all intolerant people to GO AWAY. This includes the so-called "tolerant" leftists (who are among the most intolerant people I've ever met), radicals of any religion who believe that violence is acceptable to make people believe or be killed, and anyone who believes that any ethnic group is superior to all others.

THAT IS exactly THE PROBLEM, THAT many are totally illiterate, AND THE REPUBLICANS WANT US TO BE JUST AS STUPID AND ILLITERATE AS THEY ARE.

Actually as a republican I encourage you to stay in school and get a good education and even to go to college, I do ask that you pay for your own college education though and do not ask me to subsudize it.

The civilized world is going to tire of this pretty soon. How much Napalm do we have left?

Yes the western world will get tire of this and will give in to their demands. Just look at the liberals demanding that the guy who created the movie and Terry Jones for good measure get stringed up in their thirst to appease the muslims..

At the rate we are going in 20 yrs, all these self professed liberal atheists will be finding god in Allah..

Pattie..I agree with you 100%..these so called right wing christian fanatics fail to forget that when they publicize this type of crap, they are not only stirring up a hornets nest, but also putting our soliders in danger in Afganistan....Who knows, they could have made the film with the intentions of hoping that it will make the president look bad...Remember though, this guy is a convicted felon so he's just a trouble maker...The FBI needs to take this jerk and all who gave money to make this film and drop them off by helicopter in the middle of Yemen, Sudan or Iraq and let theose people deal with them...Oh, and don't forget Terry Jones in Fla..let him be the first one they drop off!!!!

I do not want to fight a war of religion, I however will fight in a war to protect my right to free speech and the right to practice the religion of my choice including no religion at all

But that is no reason for saying that you want to go to war in the Middle East or in any other foreign country. You have your precious rights here, in the United States. So does the Florida pig and this Coptic whoever. There was no prior restraint: the Copt and the pig got their way and spoke. And it just so happens that their actions got people killed overseas, beyond the reach of the United States Constitution. Freedom of speech just means you get to speak: it doesn't mean freedom from the consequences or from criticism.

No one as invaded us to suppress our speech, and the only people trying to force a religion on us are Americans and over here. But I guess Americans are going to have to avoid going to these other countries just to be safe if the actions of our fellow "Americans" sully our people's reputation overseas, and we are going to have to break off diplomatic relations with several countries if they can't guarantee the safety of Americans.

Unfortunately, many of these countries have what we need/want: oil. And we don't have anything they want. If you want to fight for oil, say it. Be honest. But the idea of fighting in a foreign country to protect your rights under the United States Constitution is nonsensical.

Pattie..I agree with you 100%..these so called right wing christian fanatics fail to forget that when they publicize this type of crap, they are not only stirring up a hornets nest, but also putting our soliders in danger in Afganistan....

LOL...I guess that you think that Obama and Biden and all the left wing nuts running around saying Osama is dead and GM is alive is not stirring anything up though.

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech and if want to blame this movie for these protestors then you also have to blame Obama and company for the Osama is dead comments.

Actually as a republican I encourage you to stay in school and get a good education and even to go to college, I do ask that you pay for your own college education though and do not ask me to subsudize it.

Oh! Thank you so much. I actually put myself through college, I did not "asked my parents" to help me, like Mitt Romney did, because they were not able to do so. It took me a lot more to finish my Bachelors, my Masters, and I am still taking classes.

However, the only thing that I ask you is that you do not support politicians that are taking away the support to Elementary Schools.

"Obama: US has 'profound respect for people of all faiths'" - (except Christian)

However, the only thing that I ask you is that you do not support politicians that are taking away the support to Elementary Schools.

Now why would I support Rahm Emmanuel

Seriously, I am all for educational funding as long as the money goes to actually educate the students and not to pad the salaries and benefits of fat lazy teachers that do not do their jobs yet are protected and can not be terminated and no I am not saying that all teachers are fat and lazy but they are the ones that hurt the educational system in this country.

As for your paying your own way thru college well good for you, Personally I did not have a need for college, Actually it was I did not have the time, At age 19 I went to Viet Nam, Served 2 tours and when I came home I went to work in construction, I would have liked to go to college but it really would not have helped me get any further than where I am now, I own a small construction business and a small farm, Both are succesful and I have no qualms about getting my hands dirty doing manual labor.

Alas I digress...back to the topic at hand...I repeat my freedom of speech shall not be abridged by some radical in this country or any other country. When you who seek to appease these extremist by giving up your rights please remember that you do not have a right to give up my rights.

When you who seek to appease these extremist by giving up your rights please remember that you do not have a right to give up my rights.

I agree with you on the unions in Chicago. Unfortunately there isn't a middle ground right now in our country about anything. Two sides are going to extremes. The unions were supposed to exist to help the workers in situations that were unfair. The only problem is that they grew to be a battleground for thugs and corrupted politicians.

You may think that I may an adoring fan of the Democrats, but I am not. I would prefer to see a good balance of Republicans and Democrats in power. The balance of powers is what has made this country great. Right now we don't have that. The Republican Party is an embarrassment, even for the Republicans. If we have to elect the person that will keep a cool head, that will be the current President. We do not neeed to have another war.

Until the Republicans get rid of the extremist Tea Party, I will continue to defend the Democrats.

umm IRESPOND 2315268 :

In case you haven't noticed..the dishonest dangerous corrupt Obama Media succeeded in their destruction of the Tea Party.

Conversley...Obama & HIS media cheered for the THUGS at Occupy Wallstreet? This is not surprising considering Occupy & the Muslim protesters are very similar.

Violence Murder Vandalism Rape extra expense on the American tax payer ~

So I ask you Obama Democrats this question....

1. Why does your party support thugs in the Occupy Walstreet yet you act "outraged" at the Muslim protesters...........WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?

Lost.......

Bush gave up trying to capture or kill Bin Laden and said so.

Romney said it was too expensive to look for Bin Laden...it cost too much, the corporate answer, look at profit and loss not justice.

President Obama and Team America killed Bin Laden. Fact!

Starsailing, Obama and Biden and the dems running around saying Osama is dead and Gm is alive is just as much an insult to these extremists as the video is, There were many references to Osama on the signs these people are carrying.

I give credit to the Obama administration for getting Osama but he could not have done it without the work that was done in the previous administration, Obama did not do anything himself that lead to the capture/death of Osama, The military and investigative agencies of this country did that, Obama gave the ok for the plan and you can not with any honesty sit there and tell me that any sitting president would not have given the order to the mission.

jake2247

The civilized world is going to tire of this pretty soon. How much Napalm do we have left?

Exactly what I spoke of earlier, people like you, who think you are so much superior to anyone else. Civilized world, where? In your twisted mind you think napalm, and probably nuclear weapons make YOU a civilized world?

If not for OIL, America would have no need for intervention. It is the only reason why America has a need to CONTROL the Middle East.

Truly sad!!

JuliannaMichigan

Would you, like Obama have us relinquish our freedom of speech and cower before these mobs? If that is the way you feel, please feel free to go to a country where that is accepted. Democrats have long approved of the "arts" when they denigrate pictures of Jesus Christ and continue to fund the offending artists and you would have us refrain from speaking our minds in the face of this animal behavior. Where the H--- are you posting from, you sure don't sound like any American I know.

MR. PRESIDENT - Stop apologizing and sounding weak.It only invites more violence.STAND UP FOR AMERICAN PRINCIPLES.

THE "MEDIA PROBLEM" IS IN THE ARAB-MUSLIM WORLD.They've been pumping out hateful,racist and violent programming,cartoons,articles and video EVERY DAY FOR DECADES! Their hypocracy is mind blowing!

LostInThePineBarrens: YOU claim to have defended the first amendment, I suggest you read it and while you are reading the first amendment, look at the 14th amendment. If you have reading skills and comprehension, you will discover that besides freedom of expression, the ist amendment also guarantees you the right to exercise freedom of religion...that includes the Muslim religion. If you check further, the freedom of speech is not applicable and your right is not protected when your speech or other means of expression causes a breach of peace or causes violence.

Too many idiots post and rage about their freedom of speech and yet they do not know what that means nor what constitutes an abuse of that right.

So, if you actually did and are willing to fight for your rights, then you must, by extension, know the limits. When you exceed or abuse those limits, you have no rights.

For once, I have to disagree with the President. A considerable portion of the U.S. doesn't even know the definition of respect.

I mean hell, he doesn't even have the respect of half of his retarded constituents who constantly lie about him being a Muslim. We all know they say that as a sign of insult. Doesn't sound respectful to me. 5 year olds display more respect than the so called adults.

If the Osama is dead claim is what caused this fury, don't you think these riots would have happened when he was killed? You just want them to stop reminding Americans that they were the ones who went after him because that hurts your guy. You don't need to worry about that comment hurting Romney, he hurts himself every time he opens his mouth. Obama and team only need to sit back and watch him implode.

Obama, I have no respect for Muslims. None. Never will. Don't speak for me.

Imagine if FDR had acted this way toward the Nazis.

Obama and his believers can pretend all they want that Muslims are these nice, misunderstood people. I know better. I see them for the disease that they are, the madness and darkness they embrace, and I will not like or respect them. Tolerate them is the best I can do, and I'm not even happy about that.

What words can be used to take your life, seeing as some of you post this is possible ?

Is a curse word good enough to forfeit your life, maybe cursing some god, or poor spelling ?

If you support freedom of speech doesn't mean you have to support every speech any American made. If you condemn a speech that incite violent don't mean you don't support freedom of speech.

William, I think tolerance by the Muslim religion would be a great start.

demonstrates how immature the Muslim religion is.

Ignorance is the cancer of the people. The Middle EAST IS FULL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ILLITERATE, AND THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN BIRTH CONTROL.

Ignorance is the cancer of the people. The Middle EAST IS FULL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ILLITERATE, AND THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN BIRTH CONTROL.

Sounds a lot like Chicago

Sounds a lot like Chicago

Or any of the red states

That's where you're wrong, Irespond. Those of us in the "red" states are quite literate, and we do (with the exception of those who are very devoutly Catholic, or those who belong to a group like Quiverfull) believe in the use of contraceptives. Most of us do not believe that abortion should be used at the whim of a woman who simply doesn't want the child she's carrying. Most of us believe that abortion should only be used as a last-resort medical procedure if the life of the mother is in danger, if the child is suffering from an illness or deformity that will result in an extremely poor quality of life, or in cases of rape and/or incest. The PREVENTION of pregnancy is a good thing. The KILLING of an unborn child for no reason other than the fact that the child is an inconvenience to its mother is quite another.

Religion and tolerance don't normally go hand in hand, and that goes for every organized religion, especially the monotheistic like islam, christianity, and judaism.

"William", based on what I have seen, I think it's just a very small Islamic minority reacting with violence to this "film". We don't want to generalize to ALL Islams. That's neither accurate nor fair. This relatively small group may be comprised of religious extremists -- perhaps fundamentalists (likely Shi'ites) -- but they might also be comprised of those who are unemployed youths, those who are very unhappy with their life, perhaps even unstable. I'm not sure it's really known what these groups are made up of but it may be heterogeneous in composition. Moreover, these liberated peoples -- many liberated from tyranny -- haven't had the benefit of internalizing 200 years of freedon of expression (and other rights and freedoms) -- along with all the implications accruing from those rights and freedoms -- that we have come to take for granted here.

But the truth is I TOO AM GENERALIZING because I don't even have access to all the facts. The film may be affecting some or it may very well be that there are "other" extremists (like Al Qaeda, etc.) who initiated this spread of violence amongst a very easily-influenced (and, yes, unstable) group of people. Cause and effect relationships are very difficult to draw here.

This wasn't something that was "trending". From what I can gather, this "response" came out of nowhere. There doesn't seem to be any intelligence (apart from a general report sent to Cairo 48 hours before the Lybia attack, I believe) that would have led world leaders to have put everyone on alert.

It's why one needs to be VERY CAREFUL in their assessment and make every effort to ensure they've collected all the necessary information BEFORE responding. Leaders need to be especially careful -- and President Obama has shown a very steady hand under pressure. Careful, considered, judicious yet passionate. Those are qualities one looks for in a leader.

While there is always freedom of speech and expression, the domestic politics behind this are toxic and may very well have exacerbated this matter. Only time will tell -- but it's more than clear that Mr Romney did not understand this crucial principle.

Religion and tolerance don't normally go hand in hand, and that goes for every organized religion, especially the monotheistic like islam, christianity, and judaism

LOL...like the atheists are tolerant of anything, If they see any type of religious or what the consider a religious symbol they immediately file a lawsuit to have it removed...yes those atheist are just so tolerant aren't they.

A memorial from WWI built in the middle of the desert became a symbol of just how tolerant the atheist are, In my area a church wo fo years had allowed the local high school to use its facilities for graduation ceremonies was sued to have a cross removed because it somehow hurt the feelings of the atheists, I have a whole list and can go but it would be pointless.

Atheist are tolerant...lol...Thats a good one...Some of the most hateful posts I have seen on this site and other places come from atheists.

I do not even consider myself a christian, I believe in some higher power and I believe in an after life simply because I believe people have souls, When I see religious symbols from all different religions it does not offend me, It does not offend me when atheist put up billboards stating there is no god, What offends me is when fanatics of any type kill people because they do not agree with them or they are offended because someone said something they feel offends their opinions or beliefs

While there is always freedom of speech and expression, the domestic politics behind this are toxic and may very well have exacerbated this matter. Only time will tell -- but it's more than clear that Mr Romney did not understand this crucial principle.

Obama and company are doing their best to try to blame this on an obscure video, Do you think Obama/Biden and Dems running around saying Osama is dead and Gm is alive had any thing to do with it, How about it was the Sept 11 anniversary...Do you think maybe that security should have been just a little more alert.
Maybe if Obama had actually attended his Security briefings instead of just reading them later.

The middle east is in flames and spreading and Obama is still in campaign mode.

Obama needs to go. The dude is so far in over his head on all fronts (domestic and international) that we are becoming a laughing stock across the globe.

Let's not try to blame some ill advised movie on causing chaos in the middle east. I suspect it has more to do with daily illegal drone attacks that Obama has accelerated over the prior administration that the muslim world is angry about. Or, maybe it is about the continued torturing that he endorses in Gitmo after he promised to shut it down?

The anger is not about some two bit gimmick movie. But rather, a muslim population that was promised to be embraced by the current administration and instead has recieved drones (no doubt killing hundreds of innocnets) and continued torture in Gitmo.

At least with Bush the world knew where they stood rleative to our values. We need to reestablish our standing as a world leader with uncompromised principles. Not some fleeting POTUS popularity contest ala a high school prom.

Time to bring in the adults to the Oval Office

MR. PRESIDENT - Stop apologizing and sounding weak.It only invites more violence.STAND UP FOR AMERICAN PRINCIPLES.

THE "MEDIA PROBLEM" IS IN THE ARAB-MUSLIM WORLD.They've been pumping out hateful,racist and violent programming,cartoons,articles and video EVERY DAY FOR DECADES! Their hypocracy is mind blowing!

There just using this as smoke and mirrors, they have been trying to bomb, burn and kill us for a while now.

It happened on 9/11 really ... really , stop apologizing Obama for something you did not do, and NO you MAY not Take away my RIGHTS.

Blaming Obama for weak security at the embassy is like is like blaming Reagan for the bombing that kill over 200 Marine in Beirut. It's ridiculous.

To all those who chant: "Osama is dead! GM is alive!"

Just a fact to put out there because it drives me nuts. While the statement is factually correct and there is nothing wrong with the Osama part, General Motors is not alive.

General Motors no longer exists, General Motors stock is now worth $0 since it went bankrupt and it's assets liquidated. A new company called GM (not General Motors) was formed from some of the remaining assets and has only existed since 2009.

Hi Shona

Have viewed your postings for awhile and they are precise!

Good evening to you. Have visited your splendid country many times since 1970, mostly to NT. However, this past 2005/2006 spent 22 delightful days with my wife as we visited from Melbourne, Kangaroo Is., Barosa Valley, Ulhuru (sorry about spelling), Alice Springs, Darwin and NT, Cairns, and finished with Sydney for NYE at the park near Opera House for the fireworks. The name escapes me but it was a Lady's name with Mrs ----Chair, right on the banks. My wife was thrilled and we plan to go back and visit Perth area and take the Indian Ocean train towards the north!

Sorry about rambling but your country is awesome! You are correct with "any excuse" and spot on with your analyzing the events as happening.

PS: I worked with the "Diggers" in various tours while in the military! The Pub (first one in Australia at the establishment of your country) down near the Sydney Harbour for the ferry system was first visited by me in 1971 R&R

Evening Jack..Yeah beat a drum down a street and some feral will follow..."they aren't the sharpest tools in the shed"...The name of the chair is "Mrs Macquaries chair" up in Sydney..I live in Victoria and have only been to Sydney twice. I have been to the States, the usual West coast tourist places but would like to go back and see the Mid West..perhaps one day. I have not been to Perth but from all accounts it is fantastic. Just abit isolated that's all. I work for a large US company and have met many fantastic Americans...we have a lot in common. Yes we are with our mates once again where there is conflict around the world.."our Diggers and you Yanks"...goes with the territory eh!!! Well glad you and your wife have enjoyed your visits down here and I hope there are many more for you to come. Have a great day over there....Hoo roo...

Shona

Delighted to make your acquaintance. Thank you for Mrs Macquaries Chair answer. We are from Jacksonville FL and while at NYE, we found a lady and her husband who was born in Jacksonville but as an American she worked in Sydney - Her husband was in Australian Navy - they were so kind, they invited us to share their blankets, food and drink the entire evening and it was amazing travelling 12,000 miles and running into a fellow Jacksonville native!

Thanks again. and Good Night to you as I believe it is around 11:30 pm your time? Always tickled me that Darwin was 30 minutes different in time from Sydney but I understand that the time zones with all the areas coincides with sunrise/set and that makes sense.

Evening Jack..it is 9.30pm here Sat night...as they say it is a small world.

Shona1:

Wouldn't it be mind blowing if the Obama Media would actually ask the PRESIDENT a few questions surrounding the absolute incompetence in NATIONAL SECURITY!

The Obama Media of today is no friend to the American public

Go to Matt Drudge ---- see with your own eyes what NEWS stories look like without the dishonest Obama media manipulating them to PROTECT OBAMA !

Too bad no one (Obama & his media) was protecting our innocent citizens vunerable on 9-11 anniversary. Oh wait ... Obama had to hit some Hollywood parties raise some more $$$ for his campaign. Yep Obama has his thumb on the pulse ~ He knows whats important!

He also knows the media will cover his ass NO MATTER WHAT! Hence, he is comfortable with giving the metaphoric finger to 1/2 of his countrymen. (because Obama Dems will support him no matter how much damage he does. :(

Hence, Obama & his DNC party tell any NON DEMOCRAT voters to STFU

MR. PRESIDENT - Stop apologizing and sounding weak.It only invites more violence.STAND UP FOR AMERICAN PRINCIPLES.

THE "MEDIA PROBLEM" IS IN THE ARAB-MUSLIM WORLD.They've been pumping out hateful,racist and violent programming,cartoons,articles and video EVERY DAY FOR DECADES! Their hypocracy is mind blowing!

Food for thought , THIS WHOLE THING IS A GREAT SMOKE SCREEN FOR BAILOUT 3 !!!!

THAT'S RIGHT NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT BAILOUT 3 !!!!!!!

At this rate, we won't have to quite giving any one FUNNY MONEY !!!

At least you can see the video. Here in America, land of free speech, the video was removed.

The only reason I wanted to see it was because of the fuss these people are making of it

I did catch a few clips of the trailer for the same reason and that's just what these clips were - trailer trash. School kids could have put on a better performance, wrote a better script or have done a better job filming. It was ridiculous and people have been brutally murdered over this junk???

Evening Chefaz...Well said. From the little I saw and there was and is heaps available over here, I would rather talk to the dog and cat!!! Or watch paint dry. It was absolutely pathetic and talk about getting their knickers in a knot over a load of garbage. As for murdering people over this, words fail me. Some people have nothing else better to do. The first 3 minutes was enough for me. Hope all is well your way.

The video wasn't removed jw, I saw the trailers on YouTube just a few short hours ago. Found them quite funny myself, but then again I'm an atheist and a fan of movies that make fun of any religions because I have actually studied different religions myself and get some of the jokes that the movies make that others might not get.

Good morning Shona. It's always such a pleasure to see you here and read your posts.

Or watch paint dry. It was absolutely pathetic and talk about getting their knickers in a knot over a load of garbage. As for murdering people over this, words fail me.

Watching paint dry would be a helluva lot more constructive and meaningful than what has been going on this week. There are no words to describe the sheer sadness, madness, disappointment and disgust of these events.

Hope all is well with you, as well. ☺

Good to hear all is well. As soon as word started coming out here, I knew there would be trouble around the world. Always follows, can bank on it. This is not the first time and nor will it be the last. It is a case of "spoiling for a fight" over the most ridiculous and pathetic reasons. The vast majourity of clear thinking and moderate people including Muslims, would not even give this the time of day. When 9/11 happened and I work for a huge US company one of the guys at work was an Egyptian Muslim. He was in tears and totally shattered when it came out who the perpetrators were. He resigned from work as he was so ashamed of his religion and what had occurred. He could no longer face his work mates of over 30 years thinking they may have had relatives in the Twin Towers. Some did. He was a lovely guy and this just literally broke him. He moved else where out of respect for these people as he wished them no reminders of when they saw him, of what his religion did. Not one person wanted him to go....

Shona: At times like this, my mind plummets back to John Lennon's song, Imagine.

I think his point was not to deny God or country, but to demonstrate how the world's people have an uncanny passion to put the human race into categories and call it religion... call it a nation's purpose. If the the collective world was ever threatened by an overwhelming force, I'd like to think that all countries and religions would unify against that force.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

jw101 - The land of free speech you say, and at that same time advocate that the video should be considered under that classification. You do not know what the first amendment says nor the limits to which it protects your freedom of expression. I will enlighten you, and as I know you will discount what I say you can check it your self. Any speech or expression that could cause a breach of peace or either intentionally or unintentionally result or cause violence is NOT protected. Further, the first amendment guarantees the freedom of religion which IN FACT includes the Muslim religion.

Add to that many Americans that falsely accuse our President of being a Muslim...you know what ..?.. He is not, but even if he was, that is his right to choose as guaranteed by the first amendment. All those right wing idiots who try to use that argument against him must not realize that his religion , no matter what it is, is any business of theirs, none what so ever. As soon as I hear that type of talk coming from someones mouth, I instantly close my mind to anything and everything that they have to say because they have lost all credibility with me from that point forward. Many of those who make the accusations are the same that call themselves Christian, I think they are not, otherwise they would not bear false witness against their neighbor.

At the rate were going any negative posts, blogs , texts, and what not will be removed, then our ability to FREE SPEECH !!!

The funny part is freedom of religion is one of them AHAHAHAHA .. ah the funny in that is to good.

How is your suggestion that we shoot protestors for burning flags any different than the violent response of the Libyan mobs' attack on the embassy? How about we round up everyone on both sides who think violence is the answer to violence and have them all meet in a remote location to work out their differences?

How, MNPat? Well, let's put it like this........if an animal is found to be rabid, it is put down BEFORE it can hurt someone.

The religion that needs to be put down is pseudo-Christianity. That should cover about 30% of Americans.

Obama got that 2 am red phone call and put it on hold.

Obama got that 2 am red phone call and put it on hold.

Actually he wasn't home,He was off in Vegas on a Campaign tour so the answering machine picked it up.

Actually he wasn't home,He was off in Vegas

Correct!!! He got there as son as PAUL RYAN LEFT

Obama got that 2 am red phone call and put it on hold.

Where you sleeping with him, or how do you know?

Maybe you should bend over and vote for $mitt Robmey and Lyan Ryan. They're the answer to all our prayers ..LOL

Have you ever heard the saying about the crime fitting the punishment? How could the making of a video, even an offensive one justify the killing and terrorizing of US Embassys? Besides, these attacks are too spread out and well orchestrated to be solely from a video.

This person needs to be put in jail for causing deaths and disruption

"This person" has the same right to freedom of speech as anyone else in this country, Once you start restricting freedom of speech because you are offending someone then you will see a total loss of free speech. I for one do not want to live in a country where my right to free speech is restricted by someone in this country let alone some barbarians in another country.

The only people who need to be arrested are the ones actually violating the law by destroying property and murdering people.

"it was the video." And Obamanites suck it up as Gospel. Fools everyone.

WOW! I have read all kinds of stupid names about the President, but you win! However, you are correct: It was not the video, they were organized terrorist cells. The President is not SUPERMAN, AND he really can't be there fighting those people, be here being a teacher, being everything else that you red necks want him to be, but you do not see how STUPID ROMNEY is.

He wants to take us to WAR with our MEdicare and SOcial SEcurity, and you CAN'T SEE THAT

At least our Preacher-In-Chief got a chance to practice his preaching skills at the eulogy of the dead diplomats

@BONES81

"This person needs to be put in jail for causing deaths and disruption."

Are you kidding yourself. No....the people who killed are the one's the need to be put in jail.

I get offended all the time what Muslims say and do; but I'm not going to kill people for it.

Wake up people it has nothing to do with the film. Do your home work its all about Obama trying to change the World. And people in the East are tired of it. The Government is using the film to cover it up. People in the East do not wont to live like the US .

And its not just Obama it a lot of people in our Government.

Assume you are talking to the Muslim's and their idea of putting down your religion is putting you in the ground. We need leadership not sugar-coating, it is what it is.

jw101 said:

At least our Preacher-In-Chief got a chance to practice his preaching skills at the eulogy of the dead diplomats

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All of your posts add no value to this thread. Stop using this blog as a platform for your hatred. You are doing the same things as the Jihadists around the world.

MR. PRESIDENT - Stop apologizing and sounding weak.It only invites more violence.STAND UP FOR AMERICAN PRINCIPLES.

THE "MEDIA PROBLEM" IS IN THE ARAB-MUSLIM WORLD.They've been pumping out hateful,racist and violent programming,cartoons,articles and video EVERY DAY FOR DECADES! Their hypocracy is mind blowing!

Obama is full of ( S#+t)!!! Marine's standing guard at US Embassy's without AMMO??? What retard came up with that idea?????? Are you serious? I served 6 years active duty overseas, and you can believe as a Military Policeman/ woman, WE HAD AMMO!!! Impeach Obama NOW!! :(

He did not apologize but on the other hand, we need to be sensitive to the feelings of other people. Want respect, respect others!

we need to be sensitive to the feelings of other people. Want respect, respect others!

They have no respect for us, They have shown that countless time, There is no tolerance in Islam, It is convert or die.

Edward, Respect is earned not given,

Americas Comeback Team

The irony here is that you right wing insulting cows think you are of a better mind set then these hooligans. You have no respect for anyone who does not follow your regiment of "screw the people love the corporations". Every group has the burden of it's right wing shackles. these protesters certainly are not the liberals of their group. So be nice to your brothers, like you, they just want to control everything.

respect is earned... not given.........same with being tolerance

Edward, weren't you taught as a child that you have to earn respect? I wonder if you will be as sensitive when they start pulling this sh!t in a town near you.

So which is worse, President Obama shaking hands and bowing to a Saudi King, or President G. W. Bush kissing a Saudi Prince on the mouth and holding hands?

Personally, as a kid I was taught that courtesy is a sign of strenght, not a weakness. I was also taught that you give courtesy and respect until proven otherwise - that during an initial meet and greet you are respectful - and when in another person's home (or country) you recognize their measures of courtesy.

BTW - the "apology tour" is a lie that has been debunked many times.

Edward, you are correct. We should respect all others. As soon as someone disagrees and states "You need to earn respect", they have become your judge. If I say to you, plantlady99, that you must earn respect, I have set the standard by which you will be judged. If you don't meet my requirements for respect, you are unworthy of respect and consideration.

We should give everyone respect, as all humans are equal in the eyes of God (or Allah, Yahweh, Supreme Being, Prime Mover - whatever you call her). People can lose that respect by their actions, or, perhaps, their inane comments given in this thread. But don't tell me I must "earn your respect", because if that's the price, it's not worth the cost!

Respect this!

Respect is inherent of our actions.

When is there going to be a protest agains this religion of hate called Islam?

On grounds of the murder of the US ambassador and the destruction of her embassies(and for wanting us to believe a slight to their prophet is worse than the actions that followd). All those things more sacred than their trash Koran, their @!$%# prophet and the temple of the devil in Mecca.

Unfortunately I'm not American and if I do this in my country it will be blessing if I just lose my job and get arrested.

But Islam is a religion of peace! Can't you all see that? What a crock! I am so sick of the U.S. getting hit from behind and then bowing down to the perpetruadors!

MR. PRESIDENT - Stop apologizing and sounding weak.It only invites more violence.STAND UP FOR AMERICAN PRINCIPLES.

THE "MEDIA PROBLEM" IS IN THE ARAB-MUSLIM WORLD.They've been pumping out hateful,racist and violent programming,cartoons,articles and video EVERY DAY FOR DECADES! Their hypocracy is mind blowing!

"Did Barack Hussein Obama forget to go to Australia on his FAILED apology tour?"

Sorry, the Apologist-in-Chief is busy campaigning...

Our "leader" is so calm he is ignoring these threats and working on his reelection.

In the Arab world...calmness = weakness

Obama isn't "calm and steady". He is simply letting these people do what he wants them to do. He did say that he would stand with the Muslims if the opportunity arose. When will these Obamabots learn? Obama hates the US. So does his wife. These people have done nothing but bad-mouth the US from the start.

Dani - please quit with the falsehoods.

WRONG STATEMENT MR. PRESIDENT.

THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE SAYING :

"It is high time the arab and muslim world start demonstrating some respect and tolerance for OUR faiths and principles.As always,this latest round of violence is instigated by an arab and muslim media that has been broadcasting hateful,racist programming and imagery every day for decades.This must stop.We can not have a relationship based on mutual respect if you continue to promote hatred of our faiths and principles through your media."

The President Of The United States

No "falsehoods" in my statement, Matthew. Or, have you forgotten already? The Obamas sat in a "church" for over 20 years, listening to (and apparently agreeing with, because they kept sitting there, listening) a so-called "pastor" preach vile things against the US. Mrs. Obama publicly stated that she had never been "proud" of being an American prior to her husband's election. Nope, no falsehoods in my statement. They're taking the US for everything they can; they are deliberately trying to ruin this country, both financially and morally. They're not the first, or the only politicians to do so, but they need to go. They aren't trying to make America "better", they're trying to kill it.

Yes true, the Russians take no bull. They will kill everyone in the room, terrorists and hostages. FACT.

Excellent and True edward..

It was a christian group that funded and provided the site for the film.

Superskunk, exactly what group was this? Lets not start anything without 100% positive proof, not hearsay.

Obama needs to quit speaking for me, I do not support or respect Islam. And I am an American Born & Raised.

My experience in the 70's while in the military , the muslims hated us then, they teach their children to hate the U.S. and it will continue through time, it has never changed. They will smile at you, join you and when you least expect it...kill you. So muslims, islam and allah do not have all the respect obama claims.

This is not one of those things where you simply can say, well they are okay just don't bother me,it's freedom. This does not work that way.,

This is the United States, and yet on my job I have learned several different languages.That I can understand to an extent, actually it has been fun. But, This is my country and I am not accepting your religion and your ways and allibaba learn and except our ways of leave.

WRONG STATEMENT MR. PRESIDENT.

THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE SAYING :

"It is high time the arab and muslim world start demonstrating some respect and tolerance for OUR faiths and principles.As always,this latest round of violence is instigated by an arab and muslim media that has been broadcasting hateful,racist programming and imagery every day for decades.This must stop.We can not have a relationship based on mutual respect if you continue to promote hatred of our faiths and principles through your media."

The President Of The United States

Their whole purpose of immigrating to another country is to spread the religion of Islam, They start out peacful and slowly build their numbers setting up small communiites, They claim to be peace loving but that is only to hide their true intentions and that is for the continued spread of Islam, They slowly and peacefully build until they are strong enough in their host countries to try to change laws of those countries to support Sharia law, They do not want to live among us they want to conquer us, They will do it peacefully at first thru numbers and then when their numbers are strong enough thru force. There are many countries throughout the world that the religion of Islam has spread to that have lost their identities and have become Islamic states.

They do not want to live among us they want to conquer us and force their religion on us and anyone who does not see or believe that is foolish.

lisa-21

you would think their thinking process would better if they immigrate...no they are still caught up in their crazy thinking dangerous religion

Exactly. Wait, you're talking about the Mormons, right?

Angelman, Read your history. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was established in NY. And the peaceful Mormons were driven to and fro, murdered, homes burned down crops burned etc.

AholeCrusher...loves Muslims and hates Mormons....odd coming from a GLBT&beastiality supporter....hmmm..

Talk about foolish, hopefully someone stays lost in the pine barrens.

Talk about foolish, hopefully someone stays lost in the pine barrens.

Oh look Pepe Le Pew made a funny with my screen name...Talk about someone being lost.

I had a pet skunk when I was a kid, She was a wonderful little creature but she had this bad habit of spraying whenever she got excited, She would spray when I fed her or if she had not seen me for a few hours or if one of the dogs barked, Her name was Petunia...Is that you Petunia superskunk

That's all Obama knows how to do. Campaign and make speeches. Oh, and play golf, go on vacation, and rip off the American people.

"Telepromptering".....kinda like "Tebowing"?

Panhandle....kind of like begging for freebies???Whats the matter? Allergic to work jerk ?

'MINOR' Muslim World may speak out against this...but they will either be VERY few, or will do so in a reluctant, cautiously worded voice

The minor muslim world are the decoys sent first to spread the falsehood that Islam is a peaceful religion.