The U.S. and Mexico are not secretly planning to invade Canada, a State Department spokeswoman confirmed to laughter during a daily press briefing.
Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland was taking questions from journalists about its activities Tuesday, which included a meeting between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Mexico Foreign Minister Patricia Espinosa.
She was asked about “a signing ceremony” with Espinosa – what was being signed and why was the ceremony not open to the press.
“I think it’s an update on Merida, but I will get that for you,” Nuland reported, referring to the Merida Initiative to fight organized crime.
The journalist asked, “This isn’t some secret thing … to invade Canada or something like that?”
Amid laughter, Nuland replied: “No, no, no. It’s not anything classified.”
The U.S. did draw up a secret plan to invade Canada in 1935, codenamed “War Plan Red,” some of which was accidentally published by mistake and reported by The New York Times.
A U.S. invasion of Canada also featured in the film, "Canadian Bacon," starring John Candy, Alan Alda and Rhea Perlman, and the movie South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut, which included the song "Blame Canada."
There is also a website called www.invadecanada.us, which lists reasons such as connecting the mainland U.S. with Alaska, “they’re just a little too proud,” and “they stole our basketball teams.”
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The State Department is not aware of the CIA's plans for Canada.
It would be worth the risk for the peat moss alone.
That must be the 57th state Obama wants to visit?
Been there, done that, brought back a Maple Leaf Tee-shirt. The US invaded Canada during the French and Indian War, the American Revolution and most recently during the War of 1812. We've been talking about it ever since.
Try to keep up people, it could be important.
Let's not forget that Mitt Romney's father was BORN in Mexico and it is believed Romney has a secret plan to sign a pact with Mexico to invade Canada if no other opportunities to engage the US in a pointless war are available to him.
Obama/Biden 2012 No war with Canada!
What? No mention of the Canadian plans to invade the U.S.?
I'm in the Detroit area. We see a small army of polite Canadian "shoppers" infiltrate our border EVERY SINGLE DAY!
Canada wants to build a new international bridge between Detroit and Windsor; so much so that THEY WILL BEAR THE ENTIRE COST! It sounds sneaky and suspicious....
Prepare the pre-emptive strike!
As I understand it, the State Department's statements are generally correct, but somewhat misleading. The actual plan discussed was the invasion and subjugation of Quebec. Simply put those damn Frenchy bastards don't want to be part of Canada anyway and they really need to be taken down a peg or two. Since Canada has failed to convince them of the importance of accepting English as the one and only Language of value, we really need to step in.
Besides, we also want to hedge our bets a litte bit in case severe global warming makes the Hudson Bay a vacation spot and/or truly significant oil deposits are confirmed in the bay.
You're RIGHT Michael. We should round up all the Canadians living in America (or just visiting) and put them in internment camps.
Obama/Biden 2012 No internment camps
There needs to be a plan now,who knows what those 5th column Canucks are up to and ...........they have really good hunting and fishing...ah!...:o)
Yep, the Obama administration is continuing to be the most OPEN and TRANSPARENT in history as promised by Mr. Obama:
Conspiracy theory: signing ceremony was to set guidelines between Mexico and the U.S. on an OPEN BORDER AGREEMENT......IF, and that is a big IF, Mr. Obama gets re-elected.
Voted for Mr. Obama in 2008 ? Embarrassed yet ?
12 years of republican rule, running the country into the ground? Embarassed yet? Way to go guys.....
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. William Shakespeare
As If Such A Low Level Government Flunky Would Have Any Clue To What We Do Or Do Not Plan To Do! But With A Name Like Nuland You Just Have To Wonder!
At Least This Obama Not War Would Be Close Enough We Might Actually Win!
Honestly I still Don't Understand Why There Still Is A "Canada Anyway!
Psst There Goes Another Treaty That Becomes The Law Of The Land That We Are Not Allow To Know Anything About!
Ah Yes Wasn't Obama Going To Be The "Transparent" President?
I guess you haven't been listening to the adverts. This is on Gov. Snyder's "to do" list and the brunt of it will fall on guess who?
The adverts, paid for by the man who owns the bridge that the new structure will compete with, are "full of more distortions than facts".
http://www.freep.com/article/20120613/BUSINESS06/206130444/Latest-bridge-ad-is-full-of-more-distortions-than-facts
If I can get some assurance that:
1. It will stop them from saying "ewt and abewt"
2. It will stop them from putting gravy and cheese on french fries
I'd be all for it.
Ketchup on fries! Ketchup on fries!
I heard Canada was on Mitten's hit list. Hopefully, we won't have to worry about that in November.
If the US admitted it had a secret plan to invade Canada, it wouldn't be a SECRET any more, would it?
Exactly, but we're not, so it's still secret, right? Don't tell anyone else Okay?
Tthe "secret" meeting which was not open to the media included signing of a MOU:
Sheeeesh, looking out for "women's rights" in another country and even signing a MOU. It would be nice to know the "MOU details".
I wonder how far this MOU is going to infiltrate into the United States.
hey, the French put mayo on fries...
We know, that is where Bush II got the idea to invade Iraq.
...hmmm... sounds like Uncle Jed and Jethro have been on the Internet again.
Germany took two days to beat Poland...I bet we can beat that!
What's so funny? After Mexico has flooded the US with its fifth column of yahoos, Canada will be next.
LA RAZA: This is our continent, not yours, gringos!
“And the United States remains committed to helping the Mexican Government go after the cartels and organized crime and the corruption they generate…. Our goal is … to provide support and help to enable our Mexican friends and partners to be as successful as they are seeking to be. And we will continue, through the Merida Initiative, to provide significant support.” --Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
Just kick the yahoos out of the United States, you hag!
New musky lure: CAN$3.00
Tickets to a Leafs / Habs game: CAN$19.00
Sharing secret plans to invade our neighbor and close ally: Priceless
@The Angry Guy I'm hoping that makes it into their formal surrender.
Here in Idaho, as a border state, we will be given first rights to Banff NP including Lake Louise, & what the hell, we'll take Calgary too. If Washington opts out of Whistler Blackcomb, we have dibs. Suck it Montana.
Hell, I'd be for it to GET the gravy and cheese on Fries!
Romney/Ryan 2012! Poutains! Poutains! POUTAINS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dangit! We don't get to capture those Canadians with their adorable accents and make them say words with "out" in them all the time? I was so looking forward to that!
The Canadians probably do have a secret plan to invade the U.S. I mean, they must be P.O.'d at the fact that a Canadian team hasn't won the Stanley Cup since 1993 :-)
@Emanuel: "Dangit! We don't get to capture those Canadians with their adorable accents and make them say words with "out" in them all the time? I was so looking forward to that!"
Sadly, with a population only a bit larger than Texas but with a landmass that's equal to over 14 Texases (Texas? Texae? Texi? Texasarias? Texa.. oh, the h*ll with it...) the 'Common Canadian" (aka Molsonus ColdisHockeyfanarius) is a protected species... you'd have hell to pay with the environmentalists!
For the love of God, NO!
Then we'd REALLY be stuck with Justin Bieber...ack!!
If we promise not to invade, do they promise to take him back? A 'no' answer is a deal breaker...haven't they tortured us enough with William Shatner???
The American and Mexican Government may not be invading Canada, but I bet the Mexican people are.
We've been invading Canada for years.............No one knows it yet, cause it's a secret. oppps.......gues that cat's out of the bag. Ok, no more secrets. US and Canada will be speaking spanish soon enough.
Sign
Leon E. Panetta
The Canadians will "shop" you to death.
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Now Neil Young could run for president!
I wish the Canadians would just go ahead and surrender.
I just wish....Lorne Greene were here.
It must have been a Fox reporter that asked that question.
At least we'll all have healthcare.
what no 54/40 or fight?
Remember 1812. ;-)
That would be because the Canadians want it that way.
OMG! If the state department says it won't happen than it must be gonna happen! EVERYONE PUT ON YOUR TINFOIL HATS...
WE NEED TO STOP CONTINENTAL DRIFT! We need a non continental drift tax to prevent it!
I was supposed to take it off at some point?
Well, almost 1am, but let me go alert the neighbors.... Man, the things I do for this country....
There goes the Cajun plans to re-take Nova Scotia. And plans for the 51st state (Further North Dakota) are down the drain as well.
Can we ad one more star to the old glory and call canada our 51st state.lets see ,what do they have that we really want?o geee wizzz,that BC bud sounds like a winner to me.lol
I don'gt think that Canada wants to be part of the United States since with the people the GOP is running for President and all the other stuff going on in this country they will pass...
Dan should be banned for making a serious comment on this thread.
Maybe the Canadians have a few flags they can help Dan inhale(made in China of course)....:o)
Dan -- Of course Canada doesn't want to be part of the US. That's why we have to invade them.
Poor Dan. It just went straight over your head didn't it...
Will let Dan invade Mexico! Dan It's a sneek attack don't tell anybody!
I think Dan is a Canadian, eh?
One squadron of girl scouts should do it... (I am French Canadian, I have a right to say that LOL)
We should conquer both Canada and Mexico, enslave their populations and rape their natural resources.
Damned freeloaders.
SHUSH IT! If they hear what we're up to...
We already conquered Mexico... in 1847.
Had there been a transcontinental railroad, President Polk probably would have kept the whole thing instead of just half.
^Polk. Another example of a libtard democrat screwing our country
/sarcasam
BE PATIENT HANK!!! TRUST in our O'BEE n' Hairry n' Hillary, N' Nanceey Baabee, n' Anne Puttursun, (thaa NO-BULLETS for Embassey guards or SEALS either-woman in charge). REST assured that our GOV'T has reddy laid the groundwork for taking over BOTH Meheeco as well as the Cannukkz. SHHHHHhhhhhhh, caus itz a "SECRET tho!!!
Guess what numb nuts you,Obama and the Democrats would make those resources illegal to tap.So,I guess another war mongering Democrat plan goes down in the dust(insert sarcasm here)....:o)
That's on Mitt Romney's list of things to accomplish on his first day in office.
LMFAO! Great post!
It's a contingency plan in case of four more years of Obama. By then the debt will be 25Trill and we could use former Canadian oil to pay off his debt.
Then we wouldn't have to build the keystone pipeline to ship that Canadian oil off to China.
Good idea.
A TEXAN endorsing National Health Care. Good for you. It's rare for Texans to show even minimal common sense . . . is it that NYC influence?
Of course now that our military is exhausted fighting those Republican wars, perhaps Canada can invade Iran for us . . . a quid pro quo for that oil. We can add Iran's oil to all that oil we got from Iraq to pay for those wars. Yeah. That worked out so well.
bill austin
what endorsing national health care?
are you the guy who mumbles on the congress bridge
Bill-Austin....Wait.. does everyone else hear the wind whistling through what used to be a working brain before it turned to Lib mush..just kidding-not....:o)
Now if the plan was to invade and conquer Quebec, I think Canada would be okay with that. (sarcasm)
I have duel citizenship so it would present a dilemma.
If the Cajuns would hook up with the Acadians in New England, Nova Scotia is doomed.
More worthless information put out by MSNBC.
Worthless? The press conference did happen and that question was asked. So, it is fair to report it. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it, or comment on it. Personally, I always prefer more information to less information.
plork
be kind
barry was probably a government worker until chris christe got elected
I don't really know if it is worthless. I think it is a real good idea to keep a close eye on what our Sec. of State is signing (on our behalf) with an official of another country.
Politics in general and this administration in particular have problems with transparency. Questions, even dumb ones, may lead to very enlightening answers.
I think it was a drug trade! We get the drugs and people they get the land!
They DO have some pretty nice hunting and fishing. But it would be a real PITA learning to end every sentence with.....eh?
@XDm9mm
What are you talking about...eh? We have more than hunting and fishing...we also have the great Canadian bacon and a good health care system for those who may suffer a heart attack from over consumption of said bacon :)
Oh yeah I forgot...we are just a bunch of socialist up here in the Great White North...eh?
eh!
You forgot about the use of arcane language and phrases like please, excuse me, pardon me, may I, how are you, etc. An obvious attempt by Canadians to lull us into a false sense of security before they strike.
What the f$%k...eh!
We want their BEER.... EH....
the only reason to ever justify an invasion of Canada would be if our Strategic Toque Reserve were to run out
You must like the idea of paying $45+ for a 12 pack..eh ?
Its all just a plot to drive up the price of Canadian Bacon. Boycott Eggs Benedict (Arnold) now!
Canadian bacon, eh? That's not even bacon, eh.
We want hockey to be an Amercan sport!
Pffffft....THREE downs.
Bubba, last time I looked Hockey WAS an American sport since Canada is part of America.
Sounds like the early movements that would ultimately lead to WWIII. Much as Hitler started taking over his neighboring states, if the US decides to invade Mexico and Canada, a worldwide coalition of mostly Chinese troops will be called in to liberate North America from the American regime. Within 5 years, the war will be over, US cities will be in shambles, and the US will remain occupied by Chinese troops for the next several decades.
How are the Chinese going to get here? Walk?
I'm pretty sure those slow moving cargo ships won't last too long against even one Nimitz class aircraft carrier.
Don't get me wrong, the whole concept is so silly we may as well discuss how to get dolphins to go hanggliding...
Best argument I've heard to stop making more arms to fight off the phantom chinese scare....
you'll have to get with Willard on his inclination to shoot first and ignore facts later though before he does start the 3 or 4 wars the neonuts think we've missed out on the past 3 years
@Rick,
It's all the same thing, really. I can't think of a single President that didn't have a little foreign intervention here or an invasion there except for President Ford!
IMO, though, that's an interesting issue. After Iran and *maybe* North Korea... who'll be left to fight? It's getting to the point where you'd practically have to start intervening in places that aren't actually within our interests (IE: Darfur) just to justify all the defense jobs.
Ford, too:
The Mayaguez incident between the Khmer Rouge and the United States from May 12–15, 1975, was the last official battle of the Vietnam War. The names of the Americans killed, as well as those of three Marines who were left behind on the island of Koh Tang after the battle and who were subsequently executed by the Khmer Rouge, are the last names on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. The merchant ship's crew, whose seizure at sea had prompted the U.S. attack, had been released in good health, unknown to the U.S. Marines or the U.S. command of the operation, before the Marines attacked. It was the only known engagement between U.S. ground forces and the Khmer Rouge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayaguez_incident
mark from bridge port
no Ford was to busy telling NEW YORK to DROP DEAD
The idiot would have won the election because he was leading in the polls when
he said no aid to NYC. the 82 electoral swing would have stopped Carter.
mike's right
@NYC_Texan: Yep, and that was the best thing for New York! It's a lesson we should draw upon today. The city's finances were a black hole.
@Michael: D'oh!! (Though I'd put that under fighting piracy, I see your point.)
Better be careful, Yanks. Russia will back us becuz we taught them to play hockey.
Saying no to NYC was actually quite popular in most of the country. What cost him the election was his unpopular, but necessary, pardon of Richard Nixon.
BARRY NJ
THE WHOLE NORTHEAST TURNED ON HIM.
True people like Beame were like Obama today when it came to spending.
I do agree the pardon was necessary but should have happened after the trial
Read US History, our plans to invade Canada from the beginning, never came out to good, and any attempt from Canada didnt work out too good for anyone either. And really, I think the government think tanks have plans to invade everyone, just in case, including Antartica.
s3usarmy from augusta
last invasion of Canada(unless you count tourist)
The Fenian invasion of Canada out of Buffalo was on May 31, 1866
It shamed the canadian military.
fenian- irish american group
If you caN NOT BELIEVE bozoHUSSEN'S CORRUPT MACHINE, YOU CAN YA BELIEVE??!!
obama got on TV and lied to the Prez of Mexico about him & Holder giving guns to the Drug Cartel.
how about the Whoppers BOZOhussen & Over-the Hill'y are saying about the killing of the USA embassy staff... it was an over -done riot about a movie, that NO one has even seen...It had nothing to do with BOZO shouting " I Killed Osama and saved GM"...it just happened on 9/11.. NOTHING to see here..
Move along....Where is the American Journalism?? OUT drinking KOOLaid with the sheep leader---
OoooobbBAAAAAhhMMMaaaa-- put on your flower pot hats and sing along!!!Drink it UP, Drink it GOOD...BbbbBAAAaaahhhaaa!!!! the chosen one has fixed everything!!! Bad BUSH!!!!BBBAAAHHHAAA!!
You can invade however these items are of limits: Canadian bacon, poutine, maple syrup, Keiths beer and of course the Bluenose..
I'll see your Keith's and add Moosehead beer (sentimental favorite.) And what, no ketchup-flavored potato chips?
What no Tortiere? Keep the poutine though. The Bluenose is awesome - saw it the last time I was in Nova Scotia.
I didn't think our plans were secret to begin with. The snowball fight starts at 11 AM.
What snowball fight? We do not have any snowballs. We are importing them from China. The American snowball is too expensive.
:o(
Damn! I was hoping we could finally get some REAL beer here.
Sam Adams is already sold in Canada.
lol, like we should believe anything teh State Dept says lol, too funny.
www.PlanetAnon.tk
You know the government is lying ,I just saw 3 Wi. nation guardsmen(persons?) outside Target loading up supplies for the invasion in two humvees....kicks off at 1300,back for dinner around 1700ish or so,eh!...:o)
Do we really need secret invasion plans? I'm pretty sure we could just ask them and they'd give us their country. It's Canada for crying out loud.
The French Canadians are not saying OUI
I would be more than happy to give a couple states to canada, just to get rid of them, Illinois and california, but they have to take all of hollywood and chicago or not deal hahahaha Including all tabloids. They are a must.
Lets expand upon that idea, declare war against Mexico and Canada, quickly throw in the towel then, have the victors divide the spoils, Yankees to Canada, the old confederacy to Mexico... that would make everybody happy except for Mexico and Canada.
BC just wants Bellingham thru to Portland (they are hippies like us), the rest of the US you can keep and we will give you Quebec and Toronto in return.
Pretty sure Vermont will go, they are practically Canadian already, what with their talk of state run universal health care.
Mocha. Vermont seems like a pretty happy state to me. Why does it seem like all the angry people live in the "Red" states? Any state that gives safe haven to Ben & Jerry's is good with me!
I will never forgive Canada for killing all the Baldwins !
why not?
The US attempt to invade Canada in 1812 ended in dismal failure. On the occasion of the 200 th anniversary this year of that humiliation, one would think the US ought to attempt another go at it. This time, to assure success, do it with Mexico's help. No doubt, that's what Hilary Clinton just arranged.
Just send Mel Gibson up there with his "Cherokee" Tomahawk....he can take care of things!!
WoW. This Administration really thinks the citizens of the USA are stupid. Oh wait, maybe they are!!!!!!!!!!
We invade Canada and Mexico, therefore their citizens would no longer be illegal immigrants to our nation.
<--This guy = Problem solver.
That would be the North American Union. Coming soon at your local theatre and all over the place.
Conquer both canada and mexico. No more immigration problems. We'll work out the details later. CANAMERICO FOREVER !!!!
I guess we do not have enough red herrings and fear mongers out there...I guess we do not have enough enemies and we should add the Canadian people to our list. I guess Americans would not mind if this was them planning to attach us...
Is there not enough trouble internationally...I am sure most well educated English speaking people think this is a joke..But for others who are already fearful..This is adding gasoline to their own fire driven fears and anxieties of what is next..Perhaps the same thing that is fueling the flame of protests in the middle East...
This ignorant speculations and story telling is done by people who live very dull lives and need some excitement..Even if it endangers the lives of others...Statements made by a few insinuating that they know something others do not know.. Secret War plans laying in wait for the right time and moment to be set into motion..Sprung into action and justified by pre-laid lies..."A lie surrounded by truthful circumstances becomes the best lie of ALL"..
I'm pretty sure most of the people here are joking. Canada has a been our ally through thick and thin for a long time. I really like having them for a neighbor. I even have some Canadian pennies I'd like to return some day but they don't use them anymore so I guess I'll keep them.
Oi, shei, lighten up pal. You didn't think any of this was serious, did you?
Really. What idiot would even think for one second that we would do anything to our good neighbor but go on vacation, hunt and fish up there?
Really, she had make sure everyone knew it was just a joke. What kind of education did those reporters get?
I think the NHL is behind this. Canadians are very very proud of their hockey teams and their players who participate in the US. So I think the NHL is pushing for this invasion to take over all of Canada's hockey teams/players since it was first introduced in 1935. That or the maple syrup up there is to die for.
Wowser... in 1935 the mainstream press printed government leaks... in this case a plan to invade Canada?
These days that would not be tolerated. The US was a much different country back when we had a free press.
So if we invade Canada AND Mexico, make them states, that would make 52 stars on the flag--4 rows of 13. That works.
Actually, I think it would great to have the United States of North America. Make us one country right down to Panama. Put us under one government, and fix the problems--immigration and all. I think it would make us stronger, in the long run.
Actually, it'd be 94 stars, as there are 13 Canadian provinces & territories and 31 Mexican states. So "we're gonna need a bigger flag".
(Maybe move the blue field to being a blue border around the whole flag to fit them all?)
Well, that WOULD be easier to defend against when Curt turns in his cards and gets the bonus armies in Argentina, Iceland and Siam. He's going to have like 70 to place, but I'm suspicious at all the 6's he keeps rolling! ;-)
Canada is the second largest country in the world, it would be the biggest "state "ever and control every election LOL
Actually, at 34 million, Canada is still a Connecticut (3 million) shy of being as populous as California (37 million), the biggest state by population.
Okay for the 94 stars--maybe a starburst or something for a design. Maybe we could have a contest for a new flag design with the stars and stripes. It's been different before, it can be again.
Maybe, but it would take a long time and a lot of spending to get Mexico all sorted out with the strength of their organized crime syndicates and weaker infrastructure. Also, assuming everything went swimmingly, we'd then have to deal with illegal immigrants coming from SOUTH of Mexico (though that border might be easier to defend, I guess?)
Of course, now that someone has openly denied there is a plan to invade Canada, the Canucks will obviously know there actually may be such a plan.
Just give me the Canadian National Anthem [we would have to change the reference to "Oh, Canada" though]. I've long admired the "singability' of the tune and especially no mention of "rocket's red glare" and "bombs bursting in air" -- just. . .
O Canada!
Our home and native land! True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise, The True North strong and free!
From far and wide, O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free! O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
Gotta take GOD out of the song...soas not to offend anyone.
oh and you forgot , "O'Bama....we bow to thee"
Washington's pimp doesn't even have the authority to make such a change.
On a lighter note: Canada is one of the few water rich countries in the world. So while we flush billions of gallons of fresh water away to gain natural gas we deny access to Canada to export their tar sands oil and we refuse to use our ports to ship their coal. Who's your buddy?