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Israeli troops on Friday shot dead three militants in an exchange of fire near the border with Egypt, an Israeli army spokeswoman said.
An Israeli soldier was also killed, Israeli media reported, but the Israeli military declined immediate comment on that report.
"Three armed terrorists crossed the border into Israel and opened fire at troops securing workers who are building the border fence in the area ... They (attackers) were wearing flak jackets and were well-armed and carried explosive belts," spokeswoman Lieutenant-Colonel Avital Leibovich said.
She said she did not have information on the identity or affiliation of the gunmen, but added that soldiers had "managed to thwart a major incident."
In June, militants crossed into Israel from Egypt's Sinai desert and fired on Israelis building a barrier on the border, killing a worker, before soldiers killed two of the attackers.
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ahhh the american news, at it again. nice headline making israel out to be the bad guy. headline shouldve read "militants open fire on israeli soldiers". i'm so sick of these ridiculous dishonest headlines.
Last I checked Israel had a major stake in our media, so you seem to have it twisted.
What media does Israel have a stake in you absolute fraud and liar?
rockmebritney
Any positive news on this station will either not be reported or it will be reported with a spin and out of context.
It is interesting to read all the comments (99.9% Obama supporters) and realize just how many folks are completely our of touch with reality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18TRLG8Gwqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-SszJkjy60
http://www.ccun.org/Opinion%20Editorials/2012/February/13%20o/Big%20US%20Media%20Owned,%20Controlled%20By%20Jews,%20a%20List%20By%20Rev%20Ted%20Pike.htm
If an agenda were being advanced by Moonies or Scientologists, dominating the most powerful positions of media leadership in America, there would be a howl of protest. Americans would demand Congressional hearings and investigations. But because the Jewish media has forbidden identification of itself as Jewish, vilifying such as anti-Semitism, a deafening silence prevails. Meanwhile, relentless evil continues to control the spigot of information from which America drinks.
derek, you have no clue what youre talking about. those are 3 pro-palestinian websites. read the israeli news, its filled with much less hate.
Thanks rockmebritney, you have proven my point.
"Israeli troops in deadly firefight with militants on Egyptian border" doesn't sound particularly biased to me.
well derek, considering my point was that you've probably never lived in the middle east and dont have a first hand account of whats really going on, and considering youre reading pro-palestinian news, which is based completely on hate and teaching future generations to hate, then i'm glad i opened your eyes to the idiot that you are.
DEREK why not post Nazi websites with the Palestinian websites since they're almost exactly the same. You whine about Jews in media and as a source you post information from terrorists? You're much stupider than I first thought, which is amazing considering how stupid your original post was.
I was hoping for some argument which would make me sway mine but instead all I receive is insults.
Enough said.
Derek: PBS was called the Petroleum Broadcasting Service because of the influence of Big Oil and its enormous wealth on programming content. Big Oil more than counterbalances any influence Israel's friends--who aren't all Jews, btw--have over US foreign policy.
Some American Jews, perhaps most, support Israel. Others criticize its policies harshly, including those in the media. Example: 60 Minutes' highly critical coverage of the Israeli Army and the Settler Movement in the occupied West Bank.
How many times has NBC been called for calling terrorists "militants".They are like hezbollah.talebans,al quida and other brainwashed pyschos killing in the name of their prophet and book..You can be a militant of your local garden society or a civil rights group. Killinig people in the name of religion is a terrorist.Let´s hope the prez of Egypt renounces completely the terrorist group the Brotherhood and become the prez of ALL Egyptiians. At the moment his Bro terrorist tail is still showing behind his more sheepish outfit!
Bart - Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization. They are freedom fighters in their own land.
Israel is a terrorist country, which has started several wars, attacked the USS Liberty, was complicit in the 9/11 attack, attacked Gaza, killing well over 1000 and Lebanon, killing over 1000, mostly civilians,with massive air strikes the use of white phosphorus and cluster bombs.
If you desire, I can post the timeline of the attack on the Liberty.
Barack Obama will pledge to heal rift with Islam
President Barack Obama will offer a "personal commitment" to bridge differences between the United States and Muslims in a eagerly anticipated speech in Egypt this week.
Barack Obama cannot appeal to both sides of every argument Photo: GETTY
By Alex Spillius in Washington
8:00AM BST 01 Jun 2009
The address at the University of Cairo on Thursday is the centrepiece of Mr Obama's second overseas tour as president. The trip begins in Saudi Arabia and includes stops at a former concentration camp in Germany and ceremonies in Normandy to mark the D-Day anniversary.
Robert Gibbs, the White House spokesman, said the president would "review particular issues of concern, such as violent extremism and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict" and "discuss new areas for partnership".
"The speech will outline his personal commitment to engagement, based upon mutual interests and mutual respect," he said.
It is intended to be the president's most striking attempt – delivered in the heart of an Arab capital – to reassure Muslims of American goodwill and to repair the damage done to his country's reputation by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the controversial tactics of George W Bush's "war on terror".
What a difference 3.5 years can make...... the Middle East is BURNING .............. AND............
the United States is $5TRILLION deeper in debt....... AND..........
Unemployment has been OVER 8% Every Single month with the exception of his FIRST month in office.
NOBAMA2012........ the "CHANGE" America "HOPES" for.
interesting theory ralph, perhaps you should join hezbollah "freedom fighters" and fight for lebanon if you feel that strongly about it. yet, another person whos never lived outside the US. wow, that was even more clueless of a response than derek.
Thanks RalphH. Please post it again. Never forget the USS Liberty.
How many times has NBC been called for calling members of "israel state terrorists " defense force. The sadistic thugs of idf are brainwashed by their zionist masters to conduct pyschos killing. You can be a member of the state's armed forces but killinig innocent civiians with cluster bombs, with white phosphorous shells and sniping pregnant women are terrorist activities. Let´s hope the people of israel renounce and boot out completely the zionist chieftan nittyahoo and his clansmen !
GTR5 - This is for you and the thousands who are unaware of the duplicity of our great ally, Israel. One should pay careful attention to the comments of our Jewish president, Lyndon Johnson. Yes, he was secretly Jewish on both his maternal grandparents side.
There is a timeline
at the website which was set up to honor the American victims of the Isareli
and U.S. Military. Most of it follows.
June 8,
1967, Israeli forces attack the USS Liberty. They kill 34 American servicemen,
wounding 171 others. It will be the highest casualty rate ever inflicted on a
U.S. naval vessel, with 7 out of every 10 crew members killed or injured. It
will also be the only peacetime attack on a U.S. naval vessel that, to this
day, the Congress of the United States of America formally refuses to
investigate.
2 June 1967. Liberty
departs Rota at top speed of 18 knots en route to a point 13 miles off the Gaza
Strip, well within international waters.
5 June 1967, 7:45
(all times cited are local Liberty time). Israel attacks Egypt, simultaneously
putting out false reports that Egypt had attacked first. Captain McGonagle asks
Vice Admiral William Martin at Sixth Fleet headquarters to send a destroyer as
an armed escort and auxiliary communication center, noting that Liberty's
"self defense capability limited to four .50 caliber machine guns and
small arms."
6 June
1967. Admiral Martin replies "Liberty is clearly marked United States ship
in international waters, not a participant in the conflict and not a reasonable
subject for attack by any nation . . . Request for escort denied."
7 June
1967, shortly before midnight. Office of the U.S. Defense Attaché in Tel Aviv
sends coded message to U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that Israel intends
to attack the Liberty if her course is not changed.
8 June 1967:
1000: Two unmarked,
rocket-armed, delta-winged jets circle Liberty three times. Liberty officers
can count rockets and see the pilots, but see no identifying marks on the
plane. The jets radio Israeli headquarters that the ship is flying an American
flag.
1030: Israeli "flying boxcar" with Israeli markings circles
Liberty at about 200 feet. Crew member Larry Weaver says, "I was actually
able to wave to the co-pilot, a fellow on the right-hand side of the plane. He
waved back, and actually smiled at me."
1055: Pinchas Pinchasy, naval liaison officer at Israeli air force
headquarters, reports to Naval Headquarters that the ship cruising slowly off
El Arish is "an electromagnetic audio-surveillance ship of the U.S. Navy,
named Liberty, whose marking was GTR-5."
1100 & 1130: Israeli reconnaissance aircraft again circle Liberty.
1205: Three Israeli motor torpedo boats leave Ashdod at high speed headed
toward Liberty. They are followed by Israeli air force fighters, loaded with
30mm cannon ammunition, rockets, and napalm.
1215 & 1245: Israeli reconnaissance aircraft again circle Liberty.
1341: Israeli torpedo boats spot Liberty and call for an immediate air strike.
1358: Two unmarked delta-winged Mirage jets attack Liberty. After taking out
gun mounts, they target ship's antennae and bridge with heat-seeking missiles.
1405: Three unmarked Dassault Mystère IIIC jets attack with napalm and
rockets. Ship tries to contact Sixth Fleet headquarters, but five of Liberty's
six shore circuits are jammed. Radio operator manages to send distress signal
from Captain McGonagle: "Under attack by unidentified jet aircraft,
require immediate assistance." Attack lasts approximately 22 minutes,
involving 30 to 35 sorties, killing nine men and wounding around 60. Israeli
pilot reports to base: "Great, wonderful, she's burning, she's
burning."
1409: Captain Joe Tully of the USS Saratoga acknowledges call for help,
dispatches four F-4 Phantom jets, and informs Liberty that help is on the way.
Within minutes U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert MacNamara orders rescue jets to
return: : "Tell Sixth Fleet to get those aircraft back
immediately." Rear Admiral Geis relays message and tells them to re-launch
jets in 90 minutes.
1424: Three French-built 62-ton Israeli motor torpedo boats approach Liberty in
attack formation. Because the Israeli fighters had destroyed the American flag,
Captain McGonagle orders the signalman to hoist the "holiday ensign,"
the largest flag the ship has.
1435: Torpedo boats launch five German-made 19-inch torpedoes at Liberty.
One torpedo strikes starboard directly into NSA area, accounting for 25 of the
34 men who would be killed. Torpedo boats then circle, machine-gunning the ship
with armor-piercing projectiles for another 40 minutes.
1450: Commander of Sixth Fleet orders carriers USS America and USS Saratoga to
send aircraft to defend Liberty.
1500: NSA Sigint Command Center receives first notice of the attack from either
the America or Saratoga: "USS Liberty has been reportedly torpedoed by
unknown source in Med near 32N 33E. Request examine all communications for
possible reaction/reflections and report accordingly."
1505: Message sent to Liberty from Sixth Fleet: "Sending aircraft to cover
you. Surface units on the way." Liberty is off the air and does not
receive the message.
1511: First "official" notice that Liberty is under attack reaches
National Military Command Center in Washington.
1515: After the order to "prepare to abandon ship" comes over the
loudspeaker system, the lifeboats are lowered into the water. Israeli torpedo
boats move in closer and fire on them, as well as those still on deck, making
them all unusable. "I watched with horror as the floating life rafts were
riddled with holes," recalled Lieutenant Lloyd Painter, in charge of the
evacuation. Said Petty Officer Rowley, who also witnessed the event: "They
didn't want anyone to live." After destroying the life rafts, the Israeli
boats departed. Next, two Israeli SA-321 Super Frelon Hornet assault
helicopters carrying soldiers in battle dress circle ship several times, then
depart.
1520: Commander of Sixth Fleet announces that 12 aircraft will be launched at
1545 to arrive near Liberty at 1715.
1532: Walt Rostow, President Johnson's Special Assistant for National Security
Affairs, notifies the president of the attack.
1536: Israeli torpedo boats return, then leave.
1545: USS Saragota and America launch second rescue flights.
1555: Liberty regains its transmitter; still has no receiver.
1600: Liberty transmits: "Flash, flash, flash. I pass in the blind. We
are under attack by aircraft and high-speed surface craft." Deputy
Director Louis Tordella is informed by Deputy Director of Joint Reconnaissance
Center, Captain Vineyard, that "consideration was then being given by some
unnamed Washington authorities to sink the Liberty in order that newspaper men
would be unable to photograph her and thus inflame public opinion against the
Israelis." Tordella makes an "impolite" comment about the idea,
writes a memo of the conversation for the record, and stores it away.
1605: Liberty transmits: "Request immediate assistance. Torpedo hit
starboard side."
1614: American embassy relays Israeli apology to White House, Department of
State, and Sixth Fleet that an unidentified "maybe Navy" ship has
been erroneously attacked.
1615: Two unidentified jets approach Liberty, then veer off.
1630: Israeli jets and three torpedo boats return, offer assistance. Captain
McGonagle refuses their help. Boats leave after 12 minutes.
1639: Secretary of Defense McNamara again orders rescue planes recalled;
order is confirmed by President Johnson because "we are not going to
embarrass an ally." Naval Air Attaché at U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv,
Commander Ernest Castle, is summoned to Israeli Defense Forces headquarters.
1717: Deputy Secretary of Defense orders that all news releases on attack are
to be made in Washington. Soon after, Israeli helicopter approaches Liberty and
requests permission to land. McGonagle refuses. Helicopter departs.
1729: Rear Admiral Lawrence Geis, commander of the Sixth Fleet in the
Mediterranean, protests decision to recall rescue planes to Secretary of
Defense McNamara. At that point President Johnson comes on the phone and says
he didn't care if the ship sunk, he would not embarrass his allies. Admiral Geis
tells Lt. Commander David Lewis, head of the Liberty's NSA group, of the
remark, but asks him not to repeat it until after he dies. It is a promise
Lewis will honor.
1915: Captain McGonagle, wounded and exhausted, dictates first report on
estimated casualties: 10 dead; 15 severely wounded; 75 total wounded;
undetermined missing. His estimates would prove low.
9 June 1967:
After midnight: Soviet guided missile
destroyer sends flashing-light message in English: "Do you need
help?" Liberty responds: "No thank you." Soviets answer: "I
will stand by in case you need me."
0600: USS Navy destroyers Davis and Massey
arrive.
Mid-morning: Dead and wounded are evacuated by helicopter.
1450: Israeli Lt. Col. Michael Bloch telephones Commander Castle that Liberty, because
it was not flying a flag, had been mistaken for the Egyptian supply ship El
Queseir. State Department assures Congress that attack was accidental.
10 June 1967: Vice Admiral McCain orders Rear Admiral Isaac Kidd to convene
Navy Court of Inquiry.
11 June 1967: Admiral Kidd boards Liberty
with small staff to head Navy Court of Inquiry.
14 June 1967: Liberty arrives in Malta. Total
news blackout imposed. Rear Admiral Kidd warns crew: "You are never,
repeat never, to discuss this with anyone, not even your wives. If you do, you
will be court-martialed and will end your lives in prison or worse."
Secretary of Defense McNamara informs media that, "Department of Defense
will have no further comment."
15 June 1967: Secretary of State Dean Rusk
tells NATO ambassadors in Luxembourg that Israel's attack was deliberate. His
remark is reported in European, but not U.S. papers.
18 June 1967: Israeli Court of Inquiry
exonerates Israeli government and all those involved, saying that its torpedo
boats erroneously reported the Liberty's speed at 30 knots instead of 5, and
that the Liberty flew no flag and had no identifying markings. Later, Israel
will honor Motor Torpedo Boat 203, the one that fired the deadly torpedo at the
Liberty, by putting its wheel and bell on display in its naval museum, among
those maritime items of which it is most proud.
July 1967: Shortly after the burial of six
Liberty crewmen in Arlington National Cemetery, a monument is erected
describing the six as having "Died in the Eastern Mediterranean."
Liberty survivors complain that the marking is evasive and improper.
September 1967: State Department legal
adviser Carl Salans finds many discrepancies with the Israeli report. His
report is classified Top Secret.
11 June 1968: Captain McGonagle is awarded
the Congressional Medal of Honor. The Medal, usually presented by the President
of the United States at the White House, is presented by the Secretary of the
Navy during a hastily arranged ceremony at the Washington D.C. Navy Yard.
Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, the Chief of Naval Operations, calls the way the
Medal is presented a back-handed slap. "Everyone else received their medal
at the White House," Moorer will later observe. "President Johnson
must have been concerned about the reaction of the Israeli lobby."
1980: National Security Agency Director
Marshall Carter tells investigative author James Bamford that, regarding the
attack on the Liberty, "There was no other answer than that it was
deliberate."
1981: National Security Agency review,
"Attack on a Sigint Collector, the USS Liberty Incident," rejects the
Israeli Court of Inquiry's "mistake" theory and accuses Israeli
fighter pilots and torpedo boat crewmen and commanders of perjury.
1982: Israeli senior lead pilot approaches
former Congressman Pete McCloskey and admits that he recognized the Liberty as
American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the
American flag and continue his attack. He said he refused to do so and returned
to base, where he was arrested.
6 October 1982: A new headstone for the six
Liberty crew members at Arlington National Cemetery is unveiled. This one
reads: "Killed USS Liberty June 8, 1967."
1986: Lt. Commander Walter H. Jacobsen writes
in Naval Law Review: "To speculate on the motives of an attack group that
uses unmarked planes and deprives helpless survivors of life rafts raises
disturbing possibilities, including the one that the Liberty crew was not meant
to survive the attack..."
6 November 1991: Columnists Evans and Novak
publish interview with Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967, in
which Porter says that during or immediately after the attack on the Liberty
the CIA station chief showed him transcripts of intercepted Israeli messages.
One has Israel ordering the attack on the Liberty, another has an Israeli pilot
replying it's an American ship. When the order to attack is repeated, the pilot
insists he can see the American flag. The pilot is told again: "Attack
it."
8 June 1997: Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, appointed
Chief of Naval Operations shortly after the attack on the Liberty, tells a
reunion of survivors: "I have to conclude that it was Israel's intent to
sink the Liberty and leave as few survivors as possible. Israel knew perfectly
well that the ship was American."
November 1998: Captain McGonagle breaks his
long silence: "After many years I finally believe that the attack was
deliberate. I don't think there has been an adequate investigation of the
incident . . . The flag was flying prior to the attack..." McGonagle will
die four months later, on March 3, 1999.
how do you get away with such plagiarism Ralph?
THANK YOU SO MUCH Ralph H. Lets bring out all the truth about Israel. Please everyone, read "If Americans Only Knew.com". Israel spends 46 million a year to change public opinion. I am a Jew against zionism. Watch out for the Bart Martins, Ricks, Ciporas and many more Israeli shills spreading habara (Bull) and trying to get Romney elected.
I see the gang is all here, and they still hope that long-dead conspiracy theories will drive the attention away from what their islamist friends are doing right now. Still as pathetic as ever.
Hey, Ralphie boy!
How about a "timeline" on the shooting down of a civilian airliner by the USS Vincennes in July, 1988?
No matter how many times the US states it was a tragic accident such as happens in war, no matter how much evidence is presented, the Ayatollahs will insist the downing of the Iranair flight was deliberate because it suits their political purpose.
Sound familiar? In truth, both that and the Liberty incident resulted from blunders and screwups by the US Navy. The NSA recordings of conversations between the Israeli pilots and their base were finally de-classified and released in 2003 and they prove conclusively, indisputably, that the attack was due to misidentification.
Capt. McGonagle was a brave man but either he did not receive the order to steam well away from the war zone, or he deliberately disobeyed it. He must be judged mercifully in that he was a "victim" of the complex, divided command structure under which these intelligence ships sailed.
It was only six months later that disaster overtook another intelligence ship the USS Pueblo, captured intact with all its secrets by the tiny North Korean navy along with 82 surviving crew members. That time the NSA could not prevent a full-scale Congressional inquiry with testimony by the luckless Capt. Lloyd Bucher, the Pueblo's skipper. It revealed there were areas on his own ship where Capt. Bucher was not cleared to enter! Undoubtedly the same was true for Capt. McGonagle.
PS: Adm. Moorer was a good and loyal officer in his time but his time was not 1997 when he was just a senile old man who was not in full possession of his faculties.
Ralph,
Where are you getting your info from? The Arab Times, White Supremest Gazette?
While I will admit you are partially right about the liberty, you forgot that when the Liberty was attacked Egypt was sending Troops over the Suez Canal when the liberty was attacked, did you just conveniently forget that? And though I am saddened by the loss of life, do you think it was prudent to send a warp in the middle of a war zone? Also did it ever dawn on you that at that time Egypt had ex US Navy ships in its fleet and th could be a case of mistaken identity?
As for Israel starting every war, I do not know where you get your news from, but I studied some of those wars in military colledge and had the chance to see some of them up close, you need to find whoever is giving you the news and fire them because you have been getting nothing but lies.
You need to take away the hate towards anything dealing with Israel and look at the facts before you start baseless rants. All it is doing is making you look like a fool and a idiot!
Parkerjoe56
I ain't buyin'.
My grandaddy aways warned me about pigs selling pork sandwiches...
Tb, I applaud your commitment to truth even as I cringe at your substandard written English. What "military college" did you attend?
"Ralph" is not getting info from anywhere. He (or she) is an Iranian regime sock puppet, a source of disinformation and just about the only institution still beating the long-dead horse of the Liberty incident.
A few antisemitic hate sites pick up this excretion of lies from "Press TV" and try to pass it along. These sites are all run by the same tiny handful of David Duke/KKK types that mostly try to convert the Christian Zionists who outnumber them 100 to one.
so?, they are trying to survive in a hostile environment.
when you think about it, that's not very much.
The liberals despise our allies and embrace our enemies.
ah, steven b shows up with his usual stupid anti-liberal hate posts. lol.
Only two good thing come from Vermont, syrup and teddy bears. You seem to have none.
lol @ ixlr8. how inane. But i'm sure you and steven B think alike in your silliness.
Lets face it..stupid statements like"liberals embrace our enemies" are, well, just plain stupid. Its the kind of nonsense you read on hater chatboards. lol.
It is the truth and you know it. The liberalism in Vermont is towards commune level and makes CA look like a dictatorship. I am sure you enjoy it though, maybe Canada will annex you?
lot, "its the truth and I know it"? you're funny. thanks for the laugh at your expense. :)
XLR-- Vermont is so awful that Killington, Vermont tried to secede and join New Hampshire. Its a very liberal state where the areas where the liberals live look like Paradise. The locals, as opposed to the New Yorkers who pretend to be Vermonters live in squalor most people think only exists in Appalachia. Being a liberal state they have completed a good solid 2% of all road repairs required by the summer hurricane.....of 2011.
jeff: yawn. you don't expect anyone to take your post seriously? a random collection of biased "facts" and selected nonsense that proves nothing. lol.
Well Hamas and Hizbollah are enemies. The Left "liberals' embrace them. Not all, but any support is uncalled for.
SPME: Judith Butler, the Adorno Prize, and the Moral State of the "Global Left"
Vermont, sounds like your own peeps know the truth, you sound like a liberal fool........
Go Vermont! The "right-wingers" are many times hate machines, patriotic like the "Nazis", in other words, don't look at the facts, don't look at decency, don't look at what Christianity teaches, blind obedience to a mantra of "our enemies", new found and embaced as the "enemy" du jour.
Disregard a hundred or hundreds of thousands of deaths and maimings in Iraq, a false Crime Against Peace with torture, degradation, indiscriminate killing of men, women and children. Disregard Vietnam, a Crime Against Peace moved on by lies with 2 million deaths. Blame Iran, even though the history from 1953 points the other way, including a Crime Agianst Peace in which a million died.
Don't concentrate on truth, go for death and blind obedience to your "cause".
Yes, it would be nice if the Republicans stopped the class war nonsense
http://econc10.bu.edu/economic_systems/Theory/Famous/Hitler.htm
The Nazis were FACISTS (right wingers) (like Hitler never lied about his Nazi party?) who HATED COMMUNISTS (left wingers) which is why Hitler attacked Stalin (Russia).
Here's some definitions for you:
Conservative: adj. 1. Favoring preservation of the existing order. 2. Moderate; cautious. 3. Traditional
Liberal: adj. 1. Favoring individual freedom and nonrevolutionary reform. 2. Broad-minded or tolerant. 3.Generous; bountiful.
Question: Is it the "Broadminded, tolerant" or the "generous" parts that most irritate you about the "liberals"?
Not historically accurate, in the least.
Nazi's were in fact a German flavor of socialist revolutionaries seeking the "progress" of mankind. Via state control of all aspects of human life. From the cradle to the grave. The state was going to be there. Just as you will always serve the state, which is your "Father" the state will serve you it's child.
"Deutchlandlied"........ Germany above all "uber alles"
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/25points.asp
after reading the party platform it looks like a traditional European fascist socialist platform, Similar in preamble but not executed in the same way across the Continent by many group and individuals in the 1920s and 30s.
Nazism is closer to communism ,than it is, or was, to the Social-Democratic party.Those are the words of Adolf hizself.
http://books.google.com/books?id=PndurCstDZMC&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=There+is+more+that+binds+us+to+Bolshevism+than+separates+us+from+it.+There+is,+above+all,+genuine,&source=bl&ots=bsMPg8xccV&sig=BhRd9cvvT2REGX8wcsRfuKLHOR0&hl=en#v=onepage&q=There%20is%20more%20that%20binds%20us%20to%20Bolshevism%20than%20separates%20us%20from%20it.%20There%20is%2C%20above%20all%2C%20genuine%2C&f=false
http://econc10.bu.edu/economic_systems/Theory/Famous/Hitler.htm sourced from Boston University
Steven B is a paid shill of Israel. He has admitted to me he is a zionist from Israel that will do anything to get Romney elected. What did he mean by anything?
That "they are all paid" thing is what pro-islamists use when they have no real arguments, which is always.
Maxwell,
Anyone can take a quote out of a source written by people sympathetic to their cause and make themselves look good. Next time please provide facts and not fiction.
If this were an attack coming over our border Mr. Obama would down play it by calling it a protest or by blaming it on the exercise of our free speech rights and the apologize and beg patience from the attackers. When in reality it is nothing more than radical Muslim's trying to impose their twisted view of the Koran on others in an effort to dominate and subjugate. Not to mention that they will not rest until 'Zionism" is destroyed. And that mission does not begin and stop with Israel , but is also focused on US because they believe that the very foundations of our society and the institutions within it are Zionist in nature.The following is an excerpt from a statement issued by individuals carrying out a cyber attack on out financial institutions on behalf of Iran (again, using a movie to justify attacks on US that have been ongoing before the movie was even made)
Please note the reference to "American-Zionist capitalist" and that the bank of America and the NY Stock Exchange as properties of the American Zionist Capitalist. This relates back to 9/11 when the goal was to strike at our financial sectors and the seat of our government, all of which the radical Islamist see as Zionist, in an effort to bring our nation down. The effort continues to this day and recent events show that it is poised to be intensified.
Those that argue that if we only stopped backing Israel they would leave US alone are sadly mistaken and have no understanding of the goals of the radical Islam movement.
Please also note the following quote from the statement :
This statement refers to our Ambassador and the 3 other Americans that were just crucified/ murdered in the Libyan terrorist strike and the resulting calls thereafter for Americans to squelch their human rights in the form of suppression of free speech. In particular, not to say anything against the corrupt interpretation of the Koran followed by radical Muslims. They love it when their terrorist activities cause US to give up our freedoms/human rights. One seeking to dominate and control can not do so effectively if the "infidels" they seek to dominate are speaking out against their corruption and suppression. Iin this case suppression pushed under the guise of a radical Islamist interpretation of the Koran. Do not squelch your free speech rights in the face of their extremism. Free speech should never be diminished in the face of extremism, nor any other human rights. Now, more than ever, is the time to speak out against them. And I call upon all peaceful non-corrupt Muslims to stand up and speak out against the corruption of your religion by the radicals. Your voices should be the strongest. You should be the first in the streets protesting the abuse of your religion. After all, it will be you that suffer the most when you are caused to be subjugated by the corrupt use of your own religion. When you stand up in defense of your own beliefs, others will quickly follow and the tide will turn against the corruption. If you remain silent, you will only have yourselves to blame if the jihadist succeed in their corrupt use of Islam as a means of dominating and subjugating those that do not willingly bow to their dictatorial desires.
As for those, like Mr Obama, that want to apologize to those that corruptly invoke Mohammad because others use their free speech/human rights to stand up against the vile misuse of Islam, unfortunately your appeasement only emboldens them even more and causes them to strike out in ever increasing intensity in the face of your signs of weakness. If you can not stand up for our freedoms/human rights in the face of attempted suppression/domination, than you are contributing to the problem and should stand aside so that others can take the lead in standing up for our rights/freedoms. There is no cause to apologize to extremist. But there is a great need for leadership to boldly speak against their tyranny.
The Free speech is being used as a weapon against us and the free world much the same as people who come to America uses the very freedoms we offer to attack the very same freedoms for the purpose of destroying them. Example: Communist and anarchist openly attack America in the liberal press and gain support from weak minded, ignorant people that have no idea of our heritage. They use the "Squeeky wheel" principle to get attention while we just go about our daily lives.
Your post is very good and informative, but some of these squeeky wheeled liberals will come back with their one liners and rhetoric to attack you.
Thanks,
Lazarus
God forbid liberals should be allowed to debate whining conservative "victims" with rational discourse and/or excercise their "free speech" rights, huh?
Democracy is messy. What are you so afraid of?
Everyone on here can see that you are a racist and hate all Muslims. I am a Jew that's hate no one as are God commanded. God did not create the members of the biggest religion in the world to all be hate-full. Read Israeli newspapers to read all the vile remarks about Arabs, whether Muslim or christian.
Personally, I hate Hate, and deplore ignorance. America is unique to have been given the tools to keep our selves free for the future from then to forever. But before we can use those tools, we need to know how to use them to maintain freedom. I am nor a racist in any definition, but I am also a realist that recognizes dangers of a variety of colors.
My grandfather and grandmother taught me life skills to use as a basis of who I am. My grandmother taught me to cook and sew, while Papaw taught me to track and other woods skills. For example, most of the time, I know that a poisonous snake has a certain look about it that you can recognize even if you have never seen one before. if you use that knowledge, you can probably go through life and never be bitten by one.
I have found that many humans possess the same predatory qualities and most of the time, you can recognize it by their behavior if no other way. When I see hundreds of men standing and shouting "God's Will" as the people stone people to death, or chop off their heads, it is not just one or two crazy people. It is a whole set of ideas that encompass a religion or ideology. Recently, I watched such a scene on the Internet where what looked like a village, stoned a young couple to death and buried them together in a shallow hole. The story said they were young lovers that were trying to elope, but the girl had been promised through an arranged marriage. I guess, according to Shara Laws they had to die in this gruesome manner. I saw gruesome because it shocked me as to how utterly inhuman the people of this community murdered these people in a most brutal way. Rocks the size of large grapefruits were zinging towards them and SMACKING them in their bodies. Some of the rocks missed them and the large burst of debris scattered as if a bullet was fired.
There must have been some semi humane people there because some of them actually hit them in the head. Just when I thought it was over and the shrouded figure was still, the Woman sit up to let the murderous crowd finish the job. She was in a hole sitting up and I guess she did not want to be alive or at least conscious when she would be covered with dirt. I understand thought that the merciful Muslims have a practice where they slit the throats of the people they are murdering for God. I also witnessed that practice by an old woman as she killed a young man who was tied up, laying on the ground.
All of this and more is everywhere for you to see, and it is not some crackpot videos, it come fromm the various new sources from around the world.
Look for yourselves and see the people who we are trying to make friends with. I would be against anyone who would do these things to another human especially in the name of God.
I have seen War and read about all sorts of wars, but this is a "Socalled" peaceful religion and people? War is Hell, but it seems that some religions are also Hell.
Lazarus
So tired of Israel starting all this conflict and blaming it on everyone else.
STOP aid to Israel, STOP aid to Everyone in the middle east, we have our own problems here we need to deal with.
A lie.
Israel doesn't have any trouble with Jordan, or even Syria.
Just in the south, where Hamas continually attacks Israel, and in the north, where Iran/Hesb'Allah are preparing for war with Israel.
The very nerve of Israel wanting to survive, huh?
Right on Derek...
We have economic slowdown, unemplyment, fiscal cliff approaching...
We have some nuts trying to cut medicare, social security...
We are faced with growing lower class, some of which lose aid and might face hunger...
And, what are we busy with?
Freaking ungrateful isreali freeloaders wants us to attack iran, because isreal does not want to think they may be in danger from a potential long shot nuke development by iran...
I mean its time to say, "Freak you troublemakers", go ahead and manage your own affairs....
Abdullah - "Freaking ungrateful isreali freeloaders wants us to attack iran"
But your people, the muslims, are attacking the US and killing our staff in our embassies - and we give them billions.
I will give my money to Israel anytime, over your murderous muslims.
Those are the parasites in muslim community..
And thats the new starategy by isreal to say "Look, muslims attack americans".. Freaking lowlifes
Agreed Muslims are lowlifes. Muslims have been attacking Americans since 1804. The Marine hymn even mentions the 1804 war started by the "musselmen" of tripoli. God bless Israel, may she stay safe from her savage enemies.
jeff,
I know you feel ashamed to be an isreali, but do not worry, manure happens.
Abdallah Abdallah... never be ashamed of who you are, it is not Israel that is the problem, it is the present government in power that is the problem, the sooner they are voted out (and all the right wing fanatics are out of power) the better. Iran is another headache...that is for another time!!! Stay strong & happy
NO risk of Abdallah being ashamed what he is, see as he simply has no shame.
Israel=Cancer. Lets find a cure!
Well Gabe lets test some cuastic cheiclas on you to see what that will do because you're ther cancer.
Islam=Cancer. Let's find a cure!
The problem is it can still be treated...
But the way isreal is acting, cancer developing rapidly and pretty soon there is no cure... It has to be removed permamnently...
gabe0304
Did you know the the theocratic psychopaths leading Iran, feel the same way. Does that bother you in the least?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9059179/Iran-We-will-help-cut-out-the-cancer-of-Israel.html
I hear Israel threaten Iran everyday. Netenyhoo demanding the US to set red lines, Who does he think he is demanding? Well Obama will be re-elected and as he told Putin he will be free ( from Israel) to do more things. Also the Palestinians will be at the UN next week to become a non-voting member but will have accsess to the Hague. Love to see Netanyahoo in front of the world court for crimes against humanityalong with all his zionist buddies. RIP Israel.
Isreal come under attac almost every week. This happens on their land not other conutries, they have the right to defend.
Survival against 1.5 billion Muslims negates all rules of war.
If we had rocket attacks on our soil every day, or were under threat of constant invasion, I'm sure people would whistle a different toon. I applaud the offense the Isreali's choose to employ. They have to be bold when it comes to survival. If not they would all be killed, or exiled in the name of an always backward Islam.
Most interesting and vile remarks by muslim sympathizers and the liberals on this thread. Radical muslim terrorists attack our embassies, kill our staff, burn our flag (liberals like that) and the left finds a way to explained it away. "militants" attack Israeli border, kill a soldier and Israelis twart the attackers killing them, and it is all Israel's fault.
The good ole muslim/liberal alliance.
I think human sympathizer is what you should mean. If the Chinese occupied our country and killed my family I might consider attacking their embassy... just saying.
making stupid comments like "liberals like that" is, well, stupid...and vile. :)
Stupid, vile, true and accurate. Change your beliefs is the solution.
Derek,
So you are explaining and justifying the attack on both Israel and our embassies and the deaths of our Ambassador and other Americans innocent of making that film, all in one sentence?
How thrifty and concise of you.
jeff: right, because inane statements about "liberals" by haters are always sooo accurate. lol. you're funny. :)
I'm sure that this Derek guy has never been to Israel, or any else in the world. While some Palestinians who live in Israel proper do have great lives, a good job, college degree, etc.. there are others who refuse to get on with their lives. I would bet Derek doesn't even have a passport, like 65% of all Americans.
Derek, get educated and save some money and see the world!!!
Interesting comment due mainly because its so amazingly stupid I cannot believe someone posted it. Israelis have ful tarvel privileges anywhere they wish. Se plenty of Palestinians in my part of America as well. Next time put down Mein Kampf before posting.
Vermont guy--agreed!
Jeff: "Stupid, vile, true and accurate. Change your beliefs is the solution."
Why not change YOUR beliefs? Back up your statements with facts. Name calling is SO unconvincing, immature--and really pathetic.
Blow back, look it up it's a CIA term that explains the repercussions of what we are getting for being over there for so long.
Interesting how some people believe that Arab world will instantly loose all the hate if we just ditch Israel and back away.
What they refuse to understand is that Arab leadership will still need to direct the hate of the people to something, so they wont have to take responsibility for everything that goes wrong in their countries, and we are just to perfect for the role because:
1) We meddled in their politics too much by now, can't undo that.
2) We do not stick to the only religion that they consider acceptable.
3) Our lives are better then theirs (this one alone would be more than enough to want us all dead).
All those things will still be there no matter what we do, so we'll still have to fight terrorism, the only difference is will we be fighting it here or there and will we have any allies to back us up.
At least in Israel you can practice any religion...
A lot of racism everywhere in the middle east (Israel included).
But when the government itself is racist, genocide and holocaust ensue.
In israel you are a 3rd class citizen if you practice islam.
Well after all Judaism is the first religion to worship one God so we'll call them the Godfather. Academy award winnin film. Christianity, the sequel was next. We'll call them the Godfather part 2. Academy award winning film. Then came Islam, the next sequel. We'll call them Godfather part 3. Total failure as a film, hated by all not in it. Interesting that Muslims serve in Israel's Parliment and have the right to vote while that shining example of pure hatred, oops Islam, Saudi Arabia, won't even allow a Jew to visit.
5 Oceans, why would you say that? Priest are spit on by Israeli's and have rocks thrown at them. Come on now, please stop all this hasbara and look at you tube. Are you blind?
No, parkerjoe, he is not blind, that's why he saw that any violence by ultra-orthodox that the likes of you enjoy pointing at in Israel, is punished by government, while in the Arab states the violence against non-Muslims, or gays, or women is actually carried out with the blessing of the government, something you and yours are happy to close your eyes on.
In Israel Muslims have the front row seat. Its called the "The Temple Mount"
We need to redistribute our foreign aid.
Countries that burn American flags and our embassies should get zero. Like Egypt, Pakistan, Iraq. Instead send these saved funds to our allies, like Israel and Polnad.
How about you send all the money you want to these nations and none of my tax dollars goes without my consent. Sounds fair enough.
Sounds fair Derek as long as you agree that my tax dollars are not to be used to pay for abortion services or other things I might disagree with. Same rationale
Agreed.
No tax dollars pay for abortions. NONE! Another silly right wing lie. Look it up!
Besides I'd think you'd want to pay for abortions of potential liberals, wouldn't you?
And I don't want my tax dollars paying for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Good luck with that, huh?
Wow...what a collection of dweebs...Geez guys, it's a straightforward story about Israeli soldiers engaged with "militants" while defending workers building a fence. The story is clean, makes no political statements and you pathetic schmucks go off on your tangents. And Derek...you're particularly pathetic...if the US government contacted you every time it wanted to spend a dime of your tax dollars...you'd tear the phone out of the wall or throw your cellphone away. Geez, you guys are just stupid!
Why don't you guys go upstairs and ask your Mom to make you something to eat, you'll feel better.
NOTHING in foreign politics relayed to the American people is "straightforward".
Just making a point we are helping pay for this madness and violence which I find appalling.
Derek...the story was about Israeli soldiers engaged in a firefight with "militants...Let me guess...you don't find the fact that 30,000 Americans will die in road accidents, two-thirds of which are caused by drunks and inattentive driving? It doesn't bother you that 90,000 Americans will suffer serious injury and death due to medical malpractice. And I'll bet you are devastated when you think about the 250,000 Americans will die this year from preventable chronic illnesses such as lung disease from smoking, liver disease from drinking, drug addiction, unprotected sex, obesity, etc., etc., etc.
So when you're looking for something to get your panties in a wad about, forget all that stupid s h i t going on overseas and look in your own backyard.
All of Israel's neighbors do not like them. They have attacks all the time. This is not an usual incident, it will happen again.
Take a look at your promised land.... your deed is that gun in your hand. Religion will be the end of the human race.
What a wacky country Israel is. Its like a Police state, its laughable to call
that GOd forsaken place a democracy.
Please don't embarrass yourself with your lack of education. A police state is when the people within the state are prisoners of the government. The people of Israel, inside the "state," are defending themselves.
Think you have it now?
well said screminmimi - "thechupacabra" has obviously not been over to Israel - I have spent time there - great people, great country and "neighboring" countries that are Muslims that want to wipe them off the face of the earth - stand strong Israel - the US will always be with you!
Police state???? Any Israeli is allowed to travel anytime. Where did you get the idea of the country being a police state??? As for the West Bank, many Palestinians travel all the time between the USA, Europe, etc.. and their home. GET A CLUE!!!!
Uh??? where did you get that kenneth??? Palestininans cannot even travel accross town to see family members or even go to a hospital due to the big fence/concentration camp israel build, funded by our tax dollars...
He got it from a place called reality, the one you are probably not familiar with.
The Palestinians of West Bank and Gaza don't consider themselves Israeli, so they don't get to go into Israel without permission, that's fare. Those of them who are fighting a war against Israel, don't get to go in at all, that's necessary. You call the process of guarding the border a "concentration camp", that's idiocy.
At least one thing can be said about Israel, that they defend their borders and don't apologize for it.
Amen, Hallelujah, and pass the collection plate!
At least one thing can be said about israel, that they kill freedom fighters or anyone who resist occupation and oppression and call them terrorists.
At least one more thing can be said to isrealis: Whose borders are these freaking occupiers defending?
Their own borders against the Muslim infidels. True Americans support Israel.
jeff, wrong again...
Greedy, selfish, freeloading, penny pinching yet somehow rich americans support isreal...
True americans are going to wars, losing their lives...
How many jew american fighting in iraq & afhganistan, and how many willing to when and if we get to iran?
More than there are muslims, and for longer; going back to the American Revolution, plus we don't have to worry about Jews shooting up the base
Ixor, did you know the jews started trouble here as far back as 1862? Lincoln passed a law that no jew could go south of the mason dixon line? They were carpet baggers hurting all US interest. Never Never forget what they did to the USS Liberty.
It must really frustrate parker and other anti-smites that in order to dig up dirt on Jews they have to look for long dead conspiracy theories and even make up nonsense, while to dig up dirt on Muslims all one needs is to turn on the TV, no comment necessary.
Parkerjoe56
He didn't want them competing with the Protestant cahpat baggahs.
Christians=Bible=Thou Shall Not Kill=Jesus Muslims=Koran=Kill Infidels=Allah Jews=Torra=Eye For An Eye=___— (please fill in the blank for those of us that do not know,thank you.
I feel for Israel - I have been there (mid 90's) and have a little bit of understanding of what they face on a day to day basis. It's amazing (in this day and age) to be "surrounded" by countries that want to wipe you off the face of the Earth. Thank God for the USA - assisting to protect these good folks from the nasty damn muslims!!!
Exactly.
Hopefully, it's completed without any more attacks.
ginterguy, the only nasty I see is you. You have no clue, you reak of ignorance and if you did some research vs just listen to @!$%#snews you would sound a little more educated. Good luck to you in your endeavours...
ginter,
isreal actually US's real enemy..
Why?
We have all these muslims pissed off at us because we side with isreali mofos in every freaking case...
Isreal kills 1500 women and children.. What US says? Uhmmm, nada..
isreal kills US citizen by bulldozer.. What US says?,,, Whaaaat? nada..
isreal expands settlements despite US policy to not to do so? What US says? nada..
isreal block gaza and prevent aid such as strawberry jam, making gaza practically a concentration camp.. What does US say? Nada again...
isreal kills 9 muslims (one of ythem US citizen) trying to help gaza palestinians... What does US say? Nada..
So, I think US had enough sh*t from isreal and its time to divorce them and end this marriage... because marrying to isreal is like marrying to a whore.. You never know when they are going to cheat on you...
Sounds like you're an expert on this.
Yup, I met your wife...
Muslims are all out defending themselves (from what?) and slamming Israel - our only ally in the ME. Israel is our real enemy? so those are the Israelis who are attacking our embassies and chanting death to America?
Lies = taqiya at its worst.
farideh,
Ally means a person or country who will stand behind friends, defend same principals and willing to sacrifice when needed..
isreal intrepretes being an ally as an equal to being an-ahole brat..
Duck when it gets toug.
.
uh...no, genius...I've been married once - to a man and we are still together thank you very much.
But now back to you...seems that you know all about this ho' business. C'mon - dish!!!
I love these threads. An article on a gunfight on the Egyptian-Israeli border - and we argue about Vermont; Barry-Bibi meetings; and ownership of the media.
I used to question the figures on ADD (Squirrel!!), but no longer . . .
To me it sounds like we have trolls from CAIR on board.
Title sounds a little biased. One can look at the israelis as the terrrorists stealing land from others. Actually israel has been terrorizing civilians, destroying civilian homes and crops, denying basic rights and services to Palestinians, mass punishing, etc... that is the true definition of terrorism. We need not to back up israel anymore, sending them $4 billion in aids (military) a year of our hard earned money is a crime. We need the money to help us Americans. israel has been trying to drag us into another war with iran. We do not want to send our children to fight for israel anymore and shed precious American blood. Let israel fight their own wars and if our elected lawmakers cannot stad to the israeli lobbysts and are so keen on fighting for israel, then let them send their own money and kids to fight that would include romney's 5 boys. Don't send our kids to help a terrorist oppressive country...
Sam, you used five words at the beginning of your tirade as a nod to the subject article. Can't you stick to the subject, which was Israeli people being AMBUSHED by terrorists and returning fire on them?
Oh, hell, what a stupid question I asked.
God bless you Sam
...and may he cure you of your trauma.
The admin will say this was a spontaneous act on the part of the muslims.
Joel Rosenberg, wrote about the unification of Islam. The Muslims of the Middle east will unify to create, one joint Government against Israel, the United States and all other Non-Muslim countries.
Well his books are mostly fiction, but when you analyze what is going on in the Middle East, with his books, this fiction is quickly becoming a reality.
This is what happens when the simple message of Salvation, that was given to us by the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ, is rejected for Religions of Works, as if somehow we can create our own salvation. Not only is the sacrifice of Christ Jesus being ignored, His followers are being persecuted and killed.
Jesus Christ, died and rose from the dead as a living sacrifice for our sins, once and for all. This salvation is "not of works, least anyone should boast". The price has already been paid, for all those who believe.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:16
In Christ Jesus alone, is there salvation.
Narrow is the way to eternal life, wide is the way to eternal separation from God.
His servant
who is willing to bet any amount of money that the muslims can unite? lol, they can't agree on anything. Shia vs sunni..tribe against tribe...grudges held for 1000 years.
Of course, christians have never united under one government either. I think its a human thing, not a religious thing.
Isreal has only itself to blame for attacks agaains them..
They killed so many innocent muslim civilians in palestine, God will punish them sooner or later.
I personally wish muslims focus their attention to isreal instead of protesting US interests... Because its isreal who creates this hatred...
I do not mind seeing all the mullahs in libya, afghanistan, tunusi, egypt, iraq iran etc join together and attack isreal instead of US interests.. It will be a service to humanity..
The religion of peace: Qu'ran- Sura's
9:5. Then when the Sacred Months (the 1st, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun {unbelievers} wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege
them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat {the Islamic ritual prayers}), and give Zakat {alms}, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world].
But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
9:29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
9:33. It is He {Allah} Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).
Anyone who tries to defend this brutal religion has already sold their soul to Satan.They stole their religious foundation from the Hebrews/Abraham to create a machine of domination and now they want to erase the evidence. Try to deny history and truth in the origin of Islam if you can.
Lazarus
In that case Abdallah I think it's time you get out of this country and go live with other muslim slimeballs like yourself. You can go suck your prophet's dick however much you like there.
How about you take your freaking jew ass out of US and go to isreal and stay there...
Just leave your mom and sister here; I will tend to their needs.........If you know what I mean...
ham700
The way you show disrespect to Abdallah, one can also say that it's time you get out of this country and go live withother zionist slimeballs like yourself in israel. You can go suck nittyahoo's dick however much you like there.
I would love to see that too ABE. Get them all together and nuke them. Its time for every non-Muslim to accept the fact you cannot co-exist with people who follow a prophet who hada 9 year old wife. NINE. Their leader, married a 9 year old.
Muslims melt down soooo easy.
Yes Abdullah, I do know what you mean. I"ve read the Koran
Why is it that the Muslims expect to terrorize the world because they cannot take verbal criticism from the rest of the world. They use threats of war and violence to force their opinion and a diabolical religion. The mentality of Islam is convert or die and they have unified a large portion of the world already. Are you ready to give up your freedoms? That is the root of the choice we are going to make.
There is a pot of water slowly boiling in the world and left unattended, it will either boil over and soil the cook top or go dry and scorch the pot. (Metaphor) The liberal media is also attacking people for that metaphor of the empty chair saying the act of hanging it for all to see is a lynching? Really?,.. that absurd proclamation is as bad as the Muslims getting their nickers in a twist over the stupid movie and the "Satanic Verses" by Rushdie.
The attacks on our own people by the liberal press sends a message to the rest of the world that we are divided and weak. The perceived weakness in our nation is attributed to the leadership. The Russian president made a statement that he like Barry over Romney and that should have been a RED flag literally speaking to say that our number one enemy in the world likes our supreme commander.
The Free speech is being used as a weapon against us and the free world much the same as people who come to America uses the very freedoms we offer to attack the very same freedoms for the purpose of destroying them. Example: Communist and anarchist openly attack America in the liberal press and gain support from weak minded, ignorant people that have no idea of our heritage. They use the "Squeaky wheel" principle to get attention while we just go about our daily lives.
Lazarus
When illegal aliens cross the Israeli border, they build a 165 mile fence to keep them out. When illegals cross the US border, we send them to college to keep them in.
ROFLMAO...(with tears in my eyes, 'cause it ain't really funny when it's so true)
Reading these posts by the loony left make it possible for anyone to see their insanity and indoctrination! I firmly believe that the liberal (men?) have made mush out of their brains by consuming other mens reproductive fluids! The women, well I think smelling too much dirty rug has done the same to them!
dung.
These are not only the liberals who post insane remarks, there are muslims as well. But historically there has always been a muslim/liberal left alliance, since 1930s.
At least one thing can be said about Israel, that they defend their borders and don't apologize for it.