Because he is...them, one and the same...religion of love,tolerance etc,etc.Don't people get tired of defending this garbage?

Good question, liverpool. It was a bad film, badly acted, bad techs - wtf?? Not an insult to that prophet whatever he was - but an insult to lovers of cinematic art skills everywhere. Just don't get it - these men getting crazed over some idea. Don't they have anything else to do - but to go out and shout nonsense??

Just got back from France where someone drew a naked prophet - and the same idiots are all incensed over that. Tell me - if no one is ever supposed to portray the "prophet" (refuse to type the name)...then how can they tell that a cartoon of a naked guy is the prophet guy?

But that's the Muslim law. The punishment for blasphemy is death.

They cant figure out how to do that they are to stupid anybody that would worship a killer and a rapist cant be to smart they are behind in so many ways that we need to cut them off an just watch them kill their self's

But someone needs to tell the Muslim's that we don't give a crap about their laws. Especially in a country that is not their country. And that if they kill Americans, we will wipe their asses with their turbans. No matter what they think said American has done to offend them. They still kill wives and daughters who have been raped, because they believe the raped woman has brought shame to their families. Not the frickin rapist. They are ass-backward imbeciles, and we do not have to appease or obey them.

We have Congressmen who believe the same things.

Really stupid people! So if someone collects the $100,000 then they will have to spend the rest of their life in prison....ha ha....really stupid people.

How about offering counter bounty?

10.00 US for Ghulam Ahmed Bilour's head. Admittedly, much to much to pay, but

what the hey?

joz...I don't think ten bucks is going to get the job done, even in Pakistan. But instead of wasting $70,000 on advertising to condemn and apologize for the exercise of free speech in this country, why doesn't our worthless State Department use the money to put a bounty on the head of this buffoon?

Offend me and you die....make fun of me and you die....upset me and you die....say nothing against me or you will die....do what I want or I will get violent and kill and you will die....this sounds more like my wife and mother-in-law getting together and talking about me than a religion. What a bloodbath awaits these fools.

SO America sending billion of dollar to help them yet this country all the do is

$100,000 bounty for the killing of the person who produced an on-line film that denigrates the Prophet Muhammad.

I believe that Muslims are as bad as Scientologist.. So in in the words of Ron White "THERE IS NOT CURE FOR STUPID, ITS FOREVER"

Let's call this a pure, evil Terrorist Attack by the Islamists in Libya.

There is too much Propaganda in telling the stupid people in the Middle East/North Africa that it was the film, so murdering the Movie Maker, and all American people is justified.

Our Government must stay strong; the Extremists are controlling our own Government-- Extremists telling us what will happen?.

Where are the words, "NO" you will not. It would be a good idea to keep Nakoula in Prison for his own safety. It is another "Salman Rushdie" threat to scare us all.

Hillary must be at her wits ends with the barbarian's Leaders. Pres. Obama is handling this in a non-hysterical manner. Do not know if this is good or not. They need the picture of a "Sword". "An Eye for an Eye" would do well in these Cleric's countries. Any excuse for burning the American Flag and hatred of America. It will never change. "Death To America"; we have to take them seriously.

Americans ignore most of the tasteless and ignorant films made. Americans do not judge Muslims by it's ramblings. We do pay attention to violence and murder of our diplomats. The violence and destruction (done by Muslims) has created more damage to the image of Islam, than that weak and insignificant film ever could!!!

Someone that puts a hit our on another person in the US can be tried for conspiracy to commit capital murder. I don't believe it matters if the guy is in another country or not, if he put out a contract on a US citizen he may can be arrested, if we can get our hands on him, and charge him with conspiracy to commit murder and if someone does kill the weenie for the reward, then this bozo would be subject to a capital murder charge. Doesn't matter where he is.

And I am offering all the pulled pork you can eat to whomever slaps this idiot PM right in the mouth.

"Dozens of people, including the U.S. ambassador to Libya, have been killed this month in violence linked to the film."

This film is just being used as an excuse. The killings that have occurred are linked more directly to murderous nature of Islam. These government officials calling to the death of the film maker is another example of that.

"An attack on Islam's founder was "an attack on the whole 1.5 billion Muslims."

He's dead. If his writings cannot stand up to a few words spoken in a cheaply made film, then maybe he wasn't all that great in the first place. The actions of most Muslims seen around the world are of violence and murder. Almost always I hear from their leaders a call for death over one minor offense or another. Pokemon characters for years have evaded Muslim assassins - the calling for the death of a cartoon just shows the sophistication of these Muslim religious leaders. Seriously, anyone who enjoys freedom and who are a part of this Cult-like religion must at some point realize that freedom and Islam do not mix. You cannot enjoy one and support the other. One stands for life for all and the other stands for DEATH for all!

An official government spokesman for the Pakistani government has officially invited Al-Quaida to come to Pakistan and be their allies by including them in his statement. That is what makes this so serious. Even Iran has never done that. Pakistan has openly and publicly, made themselves an enemy of the state of the US. Now let's see how our government responds to this slap-in-the-face. This was an official statement given by an official agent of the government of Pakistan, remember. Which makes it an official declared government policy. Not just some Muslim fanatic spewing garbage.

Hey Minister your 1.5 billion does not scare our couple a million rednecks, in fact you may be getting them riled. Grow up for crying out loud.

If this minor film gets them riled up, maybe we should add more fuel to the fire and get them so worked up they start killing themselve at a sufficient rate to reduce the population and we won't have to give them any more money.

Frankly. since the offer of the bounty is going out to the taliban and al queda, and it it being offered by the government of Pakistan, The money going to Palistan that OUR congresss wants to keep sending them, is therefore now a violation of US law in providing money to terrorists!! Send those congresspersons to jail!! They have just vioated the laws they put into place!

I am seriously glad I was born in the USA and not some Muslim country. Who would want to live constantly under the threat of death for everything they do?

- A 12 year old girl is raped... Give her death for fornication!

- A daughter fights off the drunken advances of her father and kills him... Give her death for murder! If She's a virgin she must be raped to keep her out of heaven! Why not - had her father raped her she would have gotten death anyhow - see above!

- A man shaves off his beard... Give him death!

- A man drinks a beer... Give him death!

- Girls at school leave their coverings inside a burning school when they escape from it... send them back in to get their coverings, oh and death because they never came back out again.

Yes, Islam is a must a loving, caring and sensible religion.

Excuse me, but by offering a fee for MURDER, hasn't this guy broken some international law?? Someone makes fun of his God or Prophet, and he's allowed to offer a monetary bounty for the killing of the person/s responsible for ...what ... hurting his feelings?!!?! Are you EFFING KIDDING ME???

Sorry jackoff, but not all people are subject to the laws of your country OR your "religion". I know more than a few people who'd likely be willing to kill this guy for free. Nice and legal too. They're in the U.S. Military. Now all we need are the orders to carry it out...

Oh, I don't know, how about F*CK Ghulam Ahmed Bilour, and all the ragheads who want to limit OUR freedoms!

This culture is constantly showing the world how far behind 95% of the world they are ideologically. It's a friggin movie people! Wake the Hell up!!!!!!

This guy is the minister of railroads.

Seems he should board one of his trains and ride it right out of the 12th century.....

At this point, I consider it treason that any American dollars are going to any of these shi*-hole countries! Get every American soldier out - and let the cesspool implode. Or better yet, let's hasten that a bit - get some planes in the air and,

as SJL said:

Turn the whole region into glass. Problem solved.

And just a side note speaking of shi*-hole countries and their evil whacked out leaders - why in the hell does the USA allow that fuc*ing little evil piece of shi*, Ahmadinejad, into our country. He is an enemy of the state, and yet this little tiny evil man is allowed to come into our country - WTF?????????

I guess they don't understand that we do not live by their Sharia law, and that we will never submit ourselves to their laws. No matter how hard they try to impose them on us. We have a constitution and it basically says their extremist laws can go f*** themselves. They will have two options. Get over it, or kill themselves off rioting over nothing.

Get it together, Or Read you Koran once again.. I am Sure God said Thou shall NOT Kill or covinent Thy Brother, It seems your Still Doing That, When are You all Over in Your Country going to just Grow up already. Dont you think its time that You Know God Loves all Of us And if someone Pisses us off we dont Kill Someone in America for Writing a Movie.. WOW wait until You Meet God. Is he going to send you Somewhere that You did not expect to go get it together over there I want Our Men home and not somewhere in a Country where there Still Cuting heads off of peoples Head.. For NOTHING.. My God Ruthless is the Words.. I will Pray for all OF you.. Get it togeher I am Sure so Many would Just Like to live in a Free Country over there. Its seems You all Live on Pins and Needles if this is what the Koran Does to a Human Soul Then I know I do NOT want to Read this Book...

A proposed, "worldwide anti-blasphemy law" is unconstitutional, per the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. That's why I'm certain this proposed law would die under any vote in the UN Assembly. It likely violates no less than a quarter of the listed Articles in the Declaration.

The Middle East leaders publicly appealing to the zealots in their respective populations by demanding the creation of this global law, must be maliciously ignorant of basic human rights that their member countries agreed to, even in deference to their own nation's constitutions. But of course, a portion of these countries are willing to put the welfare of their citizenship in much lower priority than their adherence to the unprovable ideological demands of the God in their old religion, just as the Religious Right would also unwisely impose upon us all, in the U.S.

...By the way, has anyone here on the NewsVine even bothered reading this amazing piece of international legal work? (And as for you trolls, if you moronically denigrate this document or its intent, you do so at your own peril). This living document represents every signatory nation on this planet, and was inspired by, among other things, America's living U.S. Constitution as drafted up by your own nation's founding fathers and the wisdom of those that followed their renaissance of enlightened human ideals).

UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml

Is it just me, or is anyone else getting tired of these people?

Enough is enough....killing people in their own land (while despicable)is one thing, but now decreeing that they should kill other people in other lands?.....Turn the entire region into a sheet of glass......that's the only way to rid the world of these cockroaches

Another redneck ready here Irvmani with ya.

I kinda agree with 99Octane. Yesterday, I went to the VAMC. The nurse asked me if I had thoughts of hurting or killing myself, or anyone else. My response was yes, I do. She asked who? My response was, 'Kill 'em all, let God sort em out!'. She didn't know exactly how to handle that. I had a good attitude then, but it hasn't improved, after being poked and prodded, which is pretty normal there. Then I read about that bounty, and it reminds me of what John Pershing ordered his men to do to some Muslims in the Philippines. So, I have a much better attitude now. If Bozo Bilour wants to conspire to commit murder of law abiding citizens on American soil, first thing I want to do is send B-52's, you know, HUFF's, and blanket bomb his country into oblivion with Pig Oil bombs, then come back and rearm with nukes, go back, nuke em til they glow, and use their asses for runway lights, survivors are to be persecuted into extinction. This has been a big boost for my attitude problem!

$100,000 that's it? Cheap Skate.

So tired of our State Department apologizing for this film If our president apologizes to Muslims one more time, I think I might just vomit. Coincidence that our commander in chief was educated in a Muslim school in Indonesia and he just happens to be a sympathizer? Well, I think not. Sadly, so many will still vote for him despite these facts.

I would not give a rats behind if he was a Muslim if he did pose such a threat to our national security. He continues to cut our military while increasing $$$ to country's that hate America and will continue to hate us. Not because we hate their religion (we could really care less who they pray to). But, because we treat people with dignity and humanity, but most of all with common sense. Yes, we may have gays, porn, and a lot of other things that may seem unattractive, but at least we don't stone young girls for being raped and dishonoring their families. We don't cut teenagers heads off for congregating in one place together. We don't cut noses and ears off for giving in-laws (that they never chose) a bad look.

The difference is, we here in the US does not care what religion they are. We just happen to be evolved enough to realize their ways are barbaric. This is their concern. If we do not role the clock back a few thousand years, then their people will continue to stop drinking their Kool Aid (the more they are subjected to our culture). They have only one desire...to force their religion on the rest of the world. Well, I have seen the ways of their "peaceful" religion and NO THANK YOU!!!

LoL!! Pakistan. That's the way it is. George Bush's friend and ally. Ronald Reagon's lovely child.

Finally it took obama to call out the real war on terror was in tribal regions between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Henceforth and forever-more, any thing that imitates what someone thinks that the Mighty Mo might look like (as in, how the hell do these fools have any idea what he looked like?)

Prior to the carton or article's caption and/or punch line, if any, just write in big bold letters.

"A false prophet" since, obviously, a caricature, drawing cannot be a true prophet, this statement would immediately identify the drawing as not being 'him!'

If there are world-wide anti-blasphemy laws, then they would have to encompass all religions so that no one can denigrate any religion. Muslims have done more to desecrate the holy sites of other religions and will have to live by the same anti-blasphemy laws they want everyone else to live by.

Logic, knowledge, understanding & tolerance is lost on a world stuck in the past. The only thing they understand is the edge of a blade, lead from a gun, or the blast from an explosion.

Give them what they want................

Why does msn still put out that some film no one has seen still say the muslims are rioting because of it. Even Obama short sited mind had to admit it is just a terroist organization behind it. I wish Hillary would just move to the middle East since she loves them so much and find out what they do to women.

The fool who made the "movie" has the right to make that movie just like the the guys who made "The last temptation of christ". Because he is a US citizen who filmed the movie in the US - he is covered by US law. Who care's if someone in Pakistan went onto Youtube and watched it? That is the Pakistani's fault. I don't watch crap I don't believe in. Who care's if it violates Pakistani law? The act wasn't committed in Pakistan. If they want to play that game - let's impose US law on these savages.

The US has to play a political game with Pakistan. (remember - Afghanistan has oil fields and the pipeline has to go through Pakistan. Otherwise the Chinese get it.) I would send money to India - Pakistan's enemy. Instead of money to Pakistan -because we are a good nation - I would send food vouchers for KFC and other fine american restaurants. No fungible money that can be used to sponsor terrorism.

If Pakistan wants a global anti-blasphemy law - I want an entry that any derogatory reference or attack on judaism or christianity or any of the other major belief systems in the world is also blasphemy. (Muslims will have a hard time NOT violating this law.) Say - a fine, limit of financial and medical aid, possible military action, limit on voting priviliges in the UN ... I say bring it on. I think smart Muslims will understand that they are digging their own grave. Seriously - a bunch on undereducated hicks that are indoctrinated in a violent religion should never be allowed at the table for serious discussions. They should be sent to the corner until they learn to behave like civilized people or they should be spanked with a couple of missiles that decimates the infrastructure and high-target civilian locations. Hey- it will take them a couple of years to breed more replacements. Look at Japan - we threw two H-bombs on them. I think we need to re-visit our nuclear policy and make sure the "leaders" of these muslim countries understand that actions have consequences.

Well, at least this alleged film maker is no longer just a totally worthless piece of crap.

Folks I hate to point it out to you but blasphemy used to be a death penalty offense in christianity too. Many christians believe that drinking alcohol is a sin. Some think that coffee and soda is. Some believe that cutting the beard is. As do some jews. Some believe in special ways of dress for woman. Some believe in special ways of dress for both sexes. Some believe cutting your hair is a sin. Some believe that having a phone in the house is wrong but you can have one in a outhouse like shed at the edge of the property. Some believe in special underwear, Mitt and Ann Romney do. Some people believe that eating pork and shellfish is forbidden. Some believe that having home electricity is a sin. Some believe that god wants you to remove some skin from your penis. Some believe that you have to handle poisonous snakes. Crazy in Religion is not a Muslim only activity.

I'll go along with nuking the entire country of Pakistan but there needs to be some way to get the innocent children (girls primarily) out of the country first. It seems primarily it is the males who are the instigators and participatants in the rioting.

Muslims want to rule the world with fear. We need an strong president that speak for us and defend our rights, no more apologies for films, pictures, cartoons or whatever we can use to express our free speech. No Muslim , no country in the world can condemn attach our rights , even if they consider offensive. Mohammad is not God he was a simple Prophet , a human, a sinner, a man that marry a 13 years old virgin a man that lead an army to kill infidels, Mohammad has blood in his hands.

This "sentence" is clearly illegal under US law, and if it is carried out on US soil, it's highly likely that the assassin will be apprehended tried and sentenced under our laws.

That said, I don't know that I'd lose to much sleep if the attempt were successful. The makers of this film have shown what I would characterize as a criminal disregard for the lives of Americans living in the area. The response that the movie has generated is outrageous, but it was entirely predictable, and to my mind the producers of the film are partially responsible for the deaths that have resulted, in the same way somebody who yelled "fire" in a crowded movie theater would be. The right to free speech is not absolute, but I doubt the cowards who made the movie (they were safely far away from the part of the world where the chaos would result) will ever face any other form of justice for what they have caused They made the movie to inflame this kind of response, and now are hiding under the skirts of the first amendment while others die. Good men and women have died, but they got their little childish dig in at Islam.

I'm curious how many of the people decrying the response of isolated groups of Muslim extremists were the same people screaming for the heads of any American who burned our flag in protest twenty years ago when that was a fundamental conservative cause.

The response that the movie has generated is outrageous, but it was entirely predictable, and to my mind the producers of the film were, at the very least, criminally negligent and partially responsible for the deaths that have resulted

Muslims are not the exception, like any religious group they must respect our rights. How many times Christians were offended with movies, cartoons , pictures and nobody died. What is different from those peoples that express their freedom of speech, are not equally offenders.

Ever notice muzzies are only quiet if they're dead?????? For sure we were on the wrong side when we were helping them in Bosnia,and Kosavo....but they were quiet there............NO, I don't like them,deal with it.............U.S. Army Disabled Veteran

what i don't get is one of our diplomats get beaten to death nothing was done oh what something was done we just keep sending a ton of money over to these AS_wipes when our we going to STOP SENDING MONEY to the middle east spend the freaking money here in the U.S.A. where we need it on oh lets say JOBS no a another freaking cent should be sent!!!!

That muslim creep needs to blow himself up for his god! They have already taken 4 lives for what they think is an offense! That's enough!!!!!

Hey, don't you know Islam is a religion of peace and love? That is what they have been trying to demonstrate to all the world over these last couple weeks in response to this low budget crummy movie. They seem to be telling us all to judge them and the truth of their faith by their peaceful, humble actions, right? It would be comical if it weren't for all the killings and hatred!

You can't buy this kind of publicity. I've gotta see this film now..!!

He said the situation would remain tense until anti-blasphemy law was enacted at the world level.

In other words, ...forever (becuz world blasphemy laws ain't gonna happen - EVER). Ever get the feeling that was the plan all along? I do.

I would bet that if someone in Pakistan was offered a bounty payment of a goat for this minister, that we'd have a phone call by morning wanting to know if the caller was getting a ram or ewe.

Now we have government officials in middle eastern countries putting up bounties and wanting to stem free speech. The free world needs to teach these backward morons a lesson. There should now be hundreds of films, no matter how amateurish, making fun of all islamic beliefs. Then, let the backward, superstitious morons implode. Should they try to export their stupidity, the response should be quick

Enough with tolerating and apeasing these brainwashed idiots!!!

We don't need this kind of stupidity here in the USA. It shocks me that people in the USA actually convert to Islam. Here, read this and tell me if you'd like to see this sort of ignorance come to America?

Saudi Arabia's religious police are reported to
have forced schoolgirls back into a blazing building because they
were not wearing Islamic headscarves and black robes.

Saudi newspapers said scuffles broke out between
firemen and members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue
and Prevention of Vice who tried to keep the girls inside a burning
school in Mecca.

Fifteen girls were killed as they stampeded to escape
from the blazing building in the Muslim holy city. Saudi media and
families of the victims have been angry over the deaths of the girls
in the fire that gutted the school.

The resulting public criticism of the religious police,
or mutaween, is highly unusual.

The English-language Saudi Gazette, in a front-page
report yesterday quoted witnesses as saying that members of the
religious police stopped men who tried to help the girls escape from
the building, saying: "It is sinful to approach them."

A civil defence officer told an Arabic-language
newspaper, al-Eqtisadiah, that he saw three members of the religious
police "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the
school because they were not wearing the abaya".

He added: "We told them that the situation was
very critical and did not allow for such behaviour. But they shouted
at us and refused to move away from the gates."

The father of one of the dead girls alleged that the
school watchman refused to open the gate to let the girls out.

"Lives could have been saved had they not been
stopped by members of the Commission for Promotion of Virtue and
Prevention of Vice," the Saudi Gazette said.

The much-feared mutaween roam the streets of the
conservative kingdom wielding sticks to enforce dress codes and sex
segregation and to ensure that Islamic prayers are performed on
time.

Those who refuse to obey the orders of the religious
police are usually beaten and sometimes jailed.

15 girls died because these guys feared the sight of them fleeing for their lives out of a burning building would give all the men hard-ons so they sent them back in to get their scaves and black coverings!

This religion isn't a religion - ITS A FREAKING SICKNESS!!! Give me a freaking break!

Mr. Binkie "But that's the Muslim law. The punishment for blasphemy is death."

That was also true in the Old Testament, so does that make it OK to order the assassination of any Muslim that disparages Christianity?

Why can't people just keep religion to themselves?

Half the posts here are rednecks, a quarter are young (moronic) teens, and a quarter are supporters.

Way to go MSN, put up a picture of this guy surrounded by Sikhs and then when the next jackass targets Indian allies you can shoulder the blame. Not everyone with a towel on their head is our enemy! Not every news outlet has intelligent people.

Because Haroon Sheikh, Islam is a "religion" (and I use that term loosely) that reaches out and murders people.

I am offering a bounty of 1 cent to anyone that bitch slaps Ghulam Ahmed Bilour for being a stupid arse. Why don't I offer more, I don't really give two cents about this little muslim or his ignorant hateful so-called religion. BTW, I also have Mohammad toilet paper for sale. It only comes in white.

That pathetic minister don't have balls to put rewards when muslim extremist killed their own people or he'll be a dead Paki by now. He does it only to have fame and hide his corruptible, inept ministry. Plain stupidity trying to enforce blasphemy in this world while he himself can't enforce extremist to live in peace within other religion or his own country laws.et's see if US will put a bounty on his head or arrest warrant .

A Sikh and a Sheikh are not the same

I vote for Christian law. An eye for an eye works for me with these Muslims. Getting tired of them.

There are so many references to the ignorance and stupidity of Arab people on this site. It takes a mighty amount of ignorance and stupidity to make such generalizations! Again, as I have said before, it is no wonder that other countries hate us! Please, please, keep your ignorance to yourselves. They are people, just as we are. We were not born in their country, into their religion, merely by chance. A blink of God's eye, and you may have been born in the United Arab Emerates somewhere. If you have not studied the Muslim religion in full, you don't understand it, so zip it! We have people in our country to who take parts of our Bible and get CRAZY on it and do bad things to good people. This has happened throughout history, all over the world and contributed to the annihilation and/or attempted genocide of other cultures.

What's really going on here is an element of zealots taking things too far, just like some that we have here. If you don't think the ones we have here can cause great damage, you're in denial. Please, use your brains instead of your emotions, guys!

And to the 'guys' making the stupid movie, 'grow up'! Free speech is integral and built in to our Constitution for a reason. Use it wisely, for-crying-out-loud. What have you achieved by this act? Anything positive?

Just sayin'...

Is President Obama footing the bill?

He called for legislation to have the anti-blasphemy law at the global level so that no one could hurt the religious emotions of the Muslims in the name of freedom of expression.

Well, if the government approves the ant-blaphemy law, then it should protect all religions, not only the Muslim religion.

Lets put a bounty on pakistan. Reward a better world !

Scott-E83, Not if they read the wording under the picture. You know those words you didn't read. It says:

Minister Haji Ghulam Ahmed Bilour, center, paying his respects at the Sikh Shrine the Golden temple in Amritsar.

What this cowardly administration NEEDS to do is tell our schizophrenic ally that since they've finally picked a lane, our relationship with them has changed. NO bounty, NO laws that weaken our constitution. But will they? Nah

Every day ordinary citizens have to SPEAK UP to every single one of your representatives in your individual states and to the federal administration. Just venting here is NOT good enough. Most posting here tonight are OUTRAGED and DISGUSTED by this BOUNTY and by the TERRORIST ATTACKS AND MURDER OF US CITIZENS. BY these disgusting animals attempting to squash your freedom of speech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Write, call, email, stop by and visit your reps and tell them what you think. Let them know your repsonse to their inaction while be stated in your votes. IF we all act our votes DO count!!!!!! If you don't vote, if you don't let your voice be heard then you are part of the problem!!!!

I sense a drone in this man's future. Oh BTW Mohammad stinks; come and get me.

How about someone offer up a single dollar for a fellow Pakistani to kill Ghulam Ahmed Bilour instead? I bet if you did he'd be dead by morning. Roaches, the whole lot of them.

Medieval savages and reptiles. Why even try to have a conversation with these snakes. I have more intelligent conversations with my dogs. They are, at least, reasonable.

If Allah has a problem with the person(s) who made this as-yet-unseen-movie, then Allah will deal with it, yes? Is it our place to do for Allah what Allah can do? If Allah has no problem with the person(s) who did this, then Allah will decide that, too. It is not your place to second-guess Allah, it is your place to bow your head, watch what Allah does, and learn from that.

You do not score points for heaven by interfering with Allah's wishes or actions, no matter how obscure.

If this anti-blasphemy law actually passes, does that mean The Dome of the Rock, which is holy to Muslims, will have to be destroyed since there is writing on it that is anti-Christian and anti-Jesus?

Come one Muslims, you can't have it your way AND your way only!

@Kathryne - hey, these are government officials talking to the rest of the world from the Middle East. I'm not seeing many people of other religions going out and murdering people or doing violence on each other over a stupid cheap azz movie. I mean, the Pope didn't issue a reward for Tom Hanks to be slaughtered after his movies and those were high-end movies watched by billions around the world. And I do realize there are many rational people in the Middle East who are under the thumb of zealots. Those people need to know how ridiculous their leaders are and how crazy they are for listening to them and following them to commit murder and worse. If gods do exist and Allah is real, do you really think he is going to reward someone for committing suicide and murder of innocent people with 72 virgins? I believe for those people, the lower pits of Hell await them instead. I've read The Qur'an, The Torah, The Bible, The Bhagavad Gita, The Dhammapada and the Tao Te Ching. I've lived in the USA, Asia and the Middle East, so don't give me this crap about uneducated people. I wasn't visiting, I lived in all these places a few years at least, living among the people and not isolated in some compound.

Hey, I have an idea, since the government led by Netanyahu has killed more than 2400 Muslims in 2006 alone,

Crap, I say if he's so good at killing them then we hire him and his guys to go after all these troublemakers.

Bundgaard-1210892 said:

Millions died in northern EU long time ago, if you did not have the right religion, or if you attacked several types of Christians--I am surprised you people do not know that, so why is it that now another version is to be treated this way, no wonder they come after us--just take your meds, and read a little history, instead of all the killing AGAIN due to religion!

^ That's a stupid argument. Everyone peed in their diaper as a baby, but guess what? We grow up and now where underwear! Well, most of us. The rest never learned to use the toilet. "The rest" in this case, are the muslims.

Forces set in motion more than three decades ago by President Jimmy Carter’s CIA will force the United States out of much of the Middle East and North Africa. “The West has once again empowered fundamentalist forces that will inevitably turn against Washington, the Greatest Infidel of all.” The U.S. cannot possibly control the jihadis it has armed and unleashed upon the world.

The Mother of All Blowbacks is Coming

A Black Agenda Radio commentary by Glen Ford

The United States and its allies have set the stage for the Mother of All Blowbacks: a long period of convulsions in the Muslim and Arab world that will ultimately lead to America’s expulsion from much of the region. The reason it is so easy to read the handwriting on the wall, is that we have been watching the scenario unfold for three decades, ever since the last years of the Jimmy Carter administration, when the United States, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan spent billions to create a worldwide Muslim jihadi army and unleashed it on the Soviets and their allies in Afghanistan, plunging that country into endless war.

When these Muslim warriors turned on the United States – or, depending on your vantage point, when the United States turned on them – we experienced the first blowback. The American public, shocked and traumatized, gave first, a Republican, and then a Democratic president all the guns and money and extra-Constitutional powers they demanded to push back against the Muslims who had not long ago been U.S. allies. The war planners in Washington figured they could live with the way events had turned out. After all, al-Qaida and its Salafist brethren were in no position to challenge U.S. dominance in the world – not anyplace that really counted – and their mere existence provided the U.S. war machine with a purpose in life, an excuse to subvert and wage low-level war against those nations that refused to tow the U.S. line.

And then came the so-called Arab Spring, and with it the terrifying prospect that Muslims in North Africa and the Middle East might take control of their own destinies – and the oil and natural gas that goes with it. Democracy means death to U.S. imperialism. Pew Research pollsters report that, on average, only 15 percent of Egyptians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Pakistanis and Turks have a favorable view of the United States. That’s down from 25 percent in 2009, when Barack Obama came into office. If the Arab and Muslim “street” came to power, the United States would be run out of that whole section of the planet – and Washington knows it.

When Tunisia and Egypt erupted, the U.S. and Europe played the only cards they had: they brought in massive air power and called out the jihadi dogs of war in an unprovoked attack on Libya. Almost simultaneously, the Euro-Americans and the royal criminals of the Persian Gulf armed and financed a jihadi assault against Syria, as Washington and Israel stepped up their low-level war against Iran.

As Temple University’s professor Tony Monteiro has pointed out, the whole rationale for the U.S. war on terror is a lie – the facts turned backwards. Washington claims it is engaged in a long, twilight war against non-state actors, terrorists, who seek to subvert and overthrow existing governments. In reality, it is the Americans who deploy non-state, jihadi actors to overthrow governments that Washington doesn’t like. However, in doing so, the West has once again empowered fundamentalist forces that will inevitably turn against Washington, the Greatest Infidel of all. Last week’s protests are only a small foretaste of what is to come: a blowback of such intensity that the foundations of Empire will crack, and crumble.

http://blackagendareport.com/content/mother-all-blowbacks-coming

Didn't take long. I don't understand why IRESPOND-2315268's (#2.7) comment was collapsed. Nothing's wrong with it.......and it's an excellent one.

Well, this railroad (guess the sewer commissioners were not available) official certainly would get a weeks suspension at Newsvine for Death Wishing - violation of COH rule 1.

ISLAM IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION! I wish democrats would get that through their heads.

Afterall, liberals in the US think that christians are the enemy...... I wish you all could see how you really behave.

So tell me, how many christians blew up the embassies, this week?

Only a democrat would be outraged at this, but still have the nerve to tear christians down. Incidentally, when artists wanted to portray christ in package of urine for an art show, you never heard christians tell them to kill the artist.........

The silly Muslims who THINK they're getting some worldwide law are as nuts as those who murder their own in the name of their religion. How do the silly bozos think they'd enforce it? Let 'em try, as we do still have plenty of ICBM's and sub-launched missiles capable of taking care of ANY Muslim uprising that they want to happen. And the first one would be aimed right in the middle of Mecca. Let 'em face that fireball and nuclear contamination to pray after that.

Islam in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and many other countries is totally out of control. The Pakistani "official" should be punished for offering a 100k reward for the killing a film producer. The "Commission for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice" in Saudi Arabia [the religious police] is another example of out of control religious insanity supported by government................

These "Muslim" countries better change their ways and get their people under control or they may just find themselves at war with the entire civilized world and the outcome of a conflict like that would be the total destruction of what they call "The Muslim World".

Civilization can no longer afford to tolerate this barbaric religious behavior. If they don't change their ways soon then we better start preparing ourselves for a religious war of THEIR making.

looking at him my first thought was he needs a bullet hole right in the middle of his forehead. i'm just saying.

Its difficult being part of the human race,a tiny problem in the world is over population gives erratic behavior their own foundation with no effort and there's actually enough of them to believe they really have something.

Some of you people are insane. So much for freedom of speech.

I logged on here late last night, and like Scott-E83, saw that MSN had pulled a file picture of that Minister of Transportation photo with some Sikhs. When I logged back on this morning, I saw that MSN had changed the picture--I'm glad that somebody at MSN finally WOKE UP! Sikhs are NOT Muslim, in fact, one of their 10 gurus (Guru Arjan) was martyred in 1606. He was executed for refusing to convert to Islam. He was not the only one--Guru Tegh Bahadur, his son Guru Gobind Singh, and Gobind Singh's 4 sons were all either executed or died in battle against the Mughal Empire, which was Muslim. MSN, you need to THINK before you just pull any old picture from your files!

i wonder how much the film maker will make for the video going viral on utube?

You people defending this murderous perversion of faith should go to the Islamic sh*t hole of your choice and join the nearest terror cell. That way, when the predators come knocking we can eliminate you traitorous sympathizers with the same missile. Two turds with one stone, as it were.

You defend the brainwashing and torture of children, the execution of women for the slightest infraction, and the stone age system that makes it possible. We see the institutionalization of the same sort of madness as Hitler practiced. Congratulations, how very left of all of you. What sort of Prophet teaches such things? A FALSE one.

If I take this assignment and eliminate the mark..I don't accept checks or cash..paid in gold bullion bars at one ounce each only. Email me your payment plan in advance!

And there y'all go shouting out fire and brimstone like the hardcore fundamentalist preachers I had to listen to as a child and chose to listen to (like an idiot) as a young adult. I am a Rep/Ind, not a Dem. All I am saying is calm down and think with your brains instead of with your emotions. Fundamentalist 'anything' usually means "my way or the highway", whether it be them or us. Yes, our Christians did bomb a building!!! It was called the "Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building"! That was Christrian fundamentalism at its worst in this country! You've heard of DOMESTIC TERRORISM??? It was also Christians who moved to this country in the first place who tried to displace and commit genocide on the indigenous people of this country. People are people, not all the Arab people support what is going on with the zealots they are contending with in their country. But, it is each individuals choice to continue the hateful rhetoric. So, continue on, one way or the other...

Peace!!! Out!!!

You expected anything less from a zealot for a religion invented by a violent 7th century bigoted adulterous misogynist bigamist pedophile child rapist??? His bounty for murder is just one of several now while other Muslim zealots clamor for patience until they finally impose universal Sharia law on the entire planet and deal death sentences to any and every infidel blasphemer they can get their hands on. Their master plan for their master religion and ideology is to turn the entire planet into a Taliban-like al-Qaeda-like Afghanistan where they can run everthing like a despotic Islamic Emirate and subjegate the rest of the world to their demented and satanic religious ideologies. And now they want the UN to enact and enforce universal Islamic blasphemy laws to enforce international judicially imposed death for anyone who blasphemes their satanic prophet or their riotous misogynist murderous raping violent rampaging religion??? Just how much of this does the rest of the world intend on accepting from these psychopaths until it finally sees the need to totally eradicate it and its ideology the same way and for the same reasons it eradicated Naziism???

Muslims have become what christians were not to long ago. Convert or die. Obey or die. Perhaps in a hundred years or so they will be like christians are today.

Salman Rushdie?

Who's Simon Rusty???

Simon Rusty (real name Simon Rusty) was born in Manchester just a stone's throw away from a pile of unwanted stones. From an early age Simon always wanted to be older, and at the age of 25 his dreams became reality.
After reading an old German manuscript on glass blowing, Simon decided to take up poetry, somthing his conjoined twin, Henry, has always been on his back about.
His early influences were Pam Ayres, Captain Scarlet and Genghis Khan. Although little known in his own country, his poetry is very popular in Zimbabwe. Only recently President Mugabe awarded Simon a medal for his "rhymes against humanity." His poems have made a great impact with many of today's celebrities. In fact, his poetry is said to be the main contributing factor to the state of Paul Gascoigne at the moment.
When not writing poetry Simon likes to relax by stretching and yawning.
"The Satiric Verses" is Simon's fourth book of a two book trilogy entitled "innumerates count too." His other book "The Joy of Sex, Scratch and Sniff Version" is currently available in pop-up and hardback

Sir Ahmed Salman Rushdie (Hindi: अहमद सलमान रुशदी (Devanagari), احمد سلمان رشدی (Nastaʿlīq); /sælˈmɑːn ˈrʊʃdi/;^[2] born 19 June 1947) is a British Indian novelist and essayist. His second novel, Midnight's Children (1981), won the Booker Prize in 1981. Much of his fiction is set on the Indian subcontinent. He is said to combine magical realism with historical fiction; his work is concerned with the many connections, disruptions and migrations between East and West.

His fourth novel, The Satanic Verses (1988), was the centre of a major controversy, provoking protests from Muslims in several countries, some violent. Death threats were made against him, including a fatwā issued by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the Supreme Leader of Iran, on 14 February 1989.

Iran foundation boosts reward for death of Salman Rushdie

Sun Sep 16 2012

DUBAI—An Iranian religious foundation has increased its reward for the killing of British author Salman Rushdie, in response to a U.S.-made film that mocks the Prophet Muhammad, sparking protests across the Muslim world.

Rushdie, an Indian-born British novelist who has nothing to do with the film, was condemned to death in 1989 by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, Iran’s late leader, over his novel The Satanic Verses, saying its depiction of the Prophet Muhammad was blasphemous.

Khomeini’s fatwa was condemned in the West as incitement to murder and an assault on freedom of speech, but a wealthy Iranian religious organization has offered a large reward to anyone carrying it out and decided to increase the bounty amid the uproar over the online film.

“I am adding another $500,000 to the reward for killing Salman Rushdie, and anyone who carries out this sentence will receive the whole amount immediately,” said Hassan Sanei, the foundation’s head, in a statement carried by the Iranian Students’ News Agency.

The reward offered by the state-linked foundation now stands at $3.3 million, ISNA reported.

I guess Heinrich von Dorf switched names of the different authors. Funny coincidence however is that Rushdie wrote: Satanic Verses. And Rusty wrote: Satiric Verses.

he [Rushty] is sched. to make an apperance here in the Palm Springs area in a few days...I would not advertise it if was he.....NOT NOW...as to the film, ...Killing is rather harsh however the film should be burned and the idiot run of town [if not the country]...

My posts keep disappearing in these threads.. They are in my user area when I go there but not here.. Is a moderator censoring these threads??

Thanks for the chuckle McGrinder! lol

All I want to know is; why do we, the U.S.A., support Pakistan? Or any other country whose government officials come out with such, can I even call it a "stupid" statement? I say, stop the Aide, spend the money on our military and educating U.S. citizens, bring all of our troops home, send them to protect our borders (like shoot anyone trying to cross illegally), blast anyone to thier respective makers when they (representative of their government) target Americans for violence.

"Bilour condemned the work of the filmmaker, saying it distressed the Muslims across the world. However, he also condemned the violence during the protests on Friday, which was declared a national holiday in honor of Muhammad, saying it could defame Muslims and their religion"

So he condemned the violence and then offered a reward for a murder? THats odd. lol

And whats with these knuckle heads that think they can make a global law?

I say we make one first banning islam. lol idiots

@MGrinder wish I could give you more than only one "thumbs up" Re: 'Simon Rusty' bio. You're good! LOL

Robert, we pay Pakistan to keep China out, China wants into Pakistan bad, if we leave they move in.

"All I want to know is; why do we, the U.S.A., support Pakistan? Or any other country whose government officials come out with such, can I even call it a "stupid" statement? I say, stop the Aide, spend the money on our military and educating U.S. citizens, bring all of our troops home, send them to protect our borders (like shoot anyone trying to cross illegally), blast anyone to thier respective makers when they (representative of their government) target Americans for violence. "

We support them because they have all the land route to Afganistain which is how we get upplies there.

But I'm wondering what makes your violence any different from theirs?

This is just one more confirmation that these people are absolutely barking mad. In fact, the world has gone barking mad...We throw money at governments who hate us, they kill anyone who disagrees with Islam and the rest of us are in the middle of this insanity....Everyone and I mean EVERYONE needs to slow down, cool off and THINK before acting. Maybe someone will see the lunacy and stop it in a moment of clarity....

We also support them since they posses nuclear weapons as well. Actually the Pakistani Government "I use that term loosely" is just as afraid of its radical elements as we are or even more so. The sad thing is if Pakistan's government would be overthrown what you would get there would be a whole lot worse than it is now. Arab spring is an euphemism for overthrowing ones own dictator and then the radical Muslims and their clerics come out of the wood work trying to fill the power vacuum.

Ive not seen this so called video, and I havent seen our president stand up and say, if you put a bounty on an american, we will but a bounty on you just like we did with saddam and bin laden. these 2 have killed more muslims than anyone in the middle east.

but here is what gets me, the muslims here in the US cant stand us, they want us all dead. but for some odd reason they stay in AMERICA, where they take US citizens jobs because they dont care to work for nothing. but they want to stay here.... why is that? if America is so bad why would you want to stay here? but let me tell you the reason they want to stay here. they want to stay here because they are allowed to pray to a god and not get their head cut off....

If this country is so bad, then is very very simple. GO BACK TO WHERE YOUR COME FROM and you live the life you want over there.

This guy needs to be tossed out of the government on his ear as an example to others not to insight murder . If not we know exactly what Pakistan is all about (as if we didn't already but this will be definitive proof) .

Roadrunner0 : every time I have seen one of my posts disappear is because the originator of the comment I replied to was deleted , not my personal post . So with no thread to drop under as a reply it goes into never never land . So if you don't want your posts to disappear don't reply to things that will eventually get deleted , you can usually tell the ones that will get it by the off subject matter or the inflammatory nature .

Benf13..........

LET THEM MOVE IN...

WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE

I see that Salman is STILL in a hurried rush to die BWAAAHahahaha

The angry people are SO INCREDIBLY EASY to tick off... they are a bunch of over-sensitive sissies.

I say... NUKE 'EM.

BP, I was thinking the same thing about the hypocrisy of that quote.

And if a universal law against Islam is too extreme, we could at least achieve the banning of many of the barbaric practices. I'd be willing to make a concession towards the offending religions thing (maybe no extreme, graphic offenses) if we could say, add in a "no separate laws or expectations for women, only pure equal rights" and then see how much they like having policy dictated to them.

The people who made this film and paid for it knew exactly what the were doing and why. In my opinion it was a deliberate attempt to stir up further Hatred and division. May be they want us in war and wouldn't care if all our ambassadors were killed.No matter how absurd the reaction may be, that is no excuse for not identify those behind the film and their motives.

Yelling fire in a theater is nothing compared to this action. Some 49 people were hired, then editing and dubbing in Arabic. Everything was carefully and deliberately done to create trouble between us and Muslims. I believe that even moderate Muslin as well as intelligent Christians would want to know the entire plot and motive of this movie. It wasn't to make money, it wasn't for fun and they may have got exactly what they wanted.

There are too many people involved here in a concerted effort to create chaos and dissension.They don't give a damn who dies. I Believe the more the better for the pigs that that stirred this up. What will they do next? We have an obligation to everyone to expose these people and there motives. Who in their right mind is going to believe that those high in our government believe this was just a mistaken miss-use of free speech. We speak so much of fairness, openness and being reasonable. Well, let's see some of that or quit talking.

The entire project and the Arab dub ins cost a fairly good sum. Who and why would anyone pay for and promote these deliberate insults. I think we have a right and good reason to know.Much of the middle east is already fed up with our involvement in their countries. These film makers damn well knew that and tried to fan as much fire as possible. Let's put some light on our own radicals before we try to straiten out Islam.

This film is not the reason for these attacks, it's just the current excuse. Anti-muslim statementns writings etc.. have been going on for as long as there has been muslims. Sick of hearing about this particular film being the cause of all this violence!!!!!

We have this funny little thing in this country called freedom. The filmakers excercised rights that I personally don't want see taken away. WE can NOT allow mad men to dictate to us about what we say, and we CAN NOT allow them to put bounties on peoples heads over an insult. This prophet was a killer, and a straight up disgusting pedophile. Nobody has a right to squash my freedom to say so!!!

Frank Morton, compare not speech to murder, head bounties to insults, rioting to discrimination.

The reward money for Simon Rusty is $3.6 million.

This $100k reward is peanuts in comparison when you consider there are more rages and outburst of demonstrations by muslins all over the islamic nations.

That's because he and his buddies have stolen all the rest of their money. They can't afford any more.

BWAAhahaha...! Wow, MGrinder, I lvoe #3.3 you are a WordSmith. I shall look forward to reading your comments.

You folks have been at war against your own people for years, treat women like garbage create a false god for people to worship and you want to kill a man who tell the truth?

If the man who created this film is found dead may God have mercy on you because I don't believe America will.

David-1090551....."Full support for UN anti-blaspemy (SP) law."

You might get your wish from the jackals at the United Nations.

What else would you like the United Nations to do in the way of limiting YOUR Free Speech ?

Ido-4.1- Exactly! What do you think would happen if THEY had a constitution that gave them the right of free speech AND MANDATED the seperation of church and state?

David: Will the UN anti-blasphemy law you long for extend to Christians, Jews and Mormons who have taken so much crap from the liberals and atheists of this country. We don't dare say the name of Jesus, pray at a public event, have a Bible study in our home, sing a Christmas carol at school or any of a ton of other "offenses" for fear of the Separation of Church and State Police. Or will it just be applicable for any Muslim who comes up with even the slightest sense of insult? I hope you'll enjoy the loss of one of our great freedoms here in the USA.

Spot on David !!

Islam is one of the last bastions of stone age mentality. Unfortunately, that accounts for 25% of the world! I wasn't even aware of the UN blasphemy laws that the Organization of the Islamic Conference is seeking. That's the equivalent of crumpling up the 1st Amendment - not gonna happen. I'll fight and die for that one.

You are correct - bring back King Richard and let's take care of this properly.

They want our Western luxuries and innovations and more importantly, they want to live in our cities; but they don't want to play by our rules. Well - GTFO then!!

taximomma....

Well Said!!!!!!

They want internationL laws for this, yet they won't follow any of the international human rights laws currently enacted. They want ot pick and choose. You can't have it both ways.

I've always been able to take a step back from this type of thing and have tried to see that this mentality was held by a small minority, and was not representative of greater Islam, but with a Pakistani government minister offering a bounty, my position has been undermined to the point that it is no longer tenable.

While I'm repulsed by much of the jingoistic drivel which comes from right wingers and rednecks in the US, neither can I condone this sort of behavior or thinking. The idea that the simple expression of a differing opinion justifies violence, up to and including assassination for hire, is an idea that's simply anachronistic and incongruous with the modern world.

The problem with external criticism is that constructive change can only come from within, otherwise, it would simply be viewed as yet another example of foreign oppression. In the meantime, I see no reason to allow this 'culture' to continue to contaminate our shores and fester here to threaten us at some future date. It may be necessary to quarantine the virus until a cure can be found. Any (rational) suggestions?

@David Wellman - You eloquently summarized my feelings.

The quarantine option would require 'irrational' suggestions since the virus is pandemic. Because there is a significant internal Hatfield-McCoy divisiveness, I had always hoped for a solution via attrition. But the civilized world keeps stepping in to stop this natural selection process. Social Darwinism should be allowed to happen. While I'm not advocating gas chambers, the civilized world should reconsider obstruction of the genocidal tendencies within the uncivilized world. I know that sounds wrong, but it is the best answer I have for your very good question.

Sorry no current Christians have a bounty out on a MUSLIM so go Christians !

Michael N Sarah Dum..... Interesting you point out several topics that atheists state they are the victims of yet you criticize a christian for stating the same things but you believe your right the world is wrong?

Tolerance is it such a hard definition to incorporate into our lives people or should be spend countless dollars and human lives to prove a point?

At what lengths are you willing to go to eliminate God from your world? Then ask yourself is it worth it?

I believe in peace and if you don't then we have a problem but anything in between I don't really care as long as it's done peacefully and is a benefit to the generations that follow.

Thinking about more than yourself seems to be a thought of yesterday but reading your post clarifies that selfishness is still alive and kicking.

Hey dip-stikk, >>> did yu have a POINT here, or are yu just blubbering all over the place for the fun of it? YUSAY yu want a dumb super model??? WTH for ? It sounds like yu are reddy just a WANNABEE super model! Jealous one at that too.

Taximomma, when was the last time you had your home raided by the police for holding a Bible study there? Methinks you have a persecution complex. It seems some Christians feel they are correct in their beliefs only if they feel that someone is picking on them for those beliefs. In reality, most people have a 'live and let live' mentality, and harbor no animosity towards Christianity at all. Most people really don't care one way or the other about your beliefs, and I think that is actually what is bothering you.

Taximomma, what are you talking about?!? My kids sing Christmas carols at their school play (public school) and you are free to hold a bible study in your home. You can say the name of Jesus until you are blue in the face. Do you even know what the separation of church and state means?

In 1797, the United States Senate ratified a treaty with Tripoli that stated in Article 11:

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.^[16]

According to Frank Lambert, Professor of History at Purdue University, the assurances in Article 11 were "intended to allay the fears of the Muslim state by insisting that religion would not govern how the treaty was interpreted and enforced. President John Adams and the Senate made clear that the pact was between two sovereign states, not between two religious powers."^[17]

This treaty, which was ratified by the Senate, confirms that the government of the United States was specifically intended to be religiously neutral.^[18] The treaty was submitted by President Adams and unanimously ratified by the Senate.

JSworld13, since that 1797 treaty with "Tripoli", how many times has the ruling government changed hands? That brings up a reasonable question. What happens to a treaty, when that place no longer exists. How would it have conveyed to the Libya of today, which I presume is what you are alluding to?

Was that same 1797 government of Tripoli anything like the Islamic terrorists of Libya today? Would that treaty have covered terrorists activity of the kind we see today?

Just asking.

And that was in 1797 and the treaty still stands with Libya.The US and Libya go back a very long way in these very issues we're dealing with today in other countries.Methinks that may be one of the reasons for the protests against the fundamentalists in Libya,they do not forget what we stand for.

@ Jeff Chicago...Jeff Chicago said; "Sorry no current Christians have a bounty out on a MUSLIM so go Christians !" Hmmmm... Sure you don't want to reconsider that Jeff ?

Here's part of an OFFICIAL June, 2012 US State Department press release:

The US state department has placed seven top leaders of the Somalia-based al-Shabab armed group on its wanted list for the first time, offering up to $33m for tip-offs to aid the hunt for the men.

A $7m bounty was placed on al-Shabab founder Ahmed Abdi aw-Mohamed and a further $5m was offered for other members - Ibrahim Haji Jama, Fuad Mohamed Khalaf, Bashir Mohamed Mahamoud and Mukhtar Robow. Up to $3m was offered for two other leaders, Zakariya Ismail Ahmed Hersi and Abdullahi Yare.

This is an OFFICIAL U.S. government policy, not just one nutty mid level official...Not that these bounties aren't justified...Just sayin'

@Jeffrey L

Something tells me these guys don't have a price on their heads over some B movie they produced. And I doubt the US State Department is considered a christian organization.

Of course, we rational Americans, see them as very different situations. But read some of the comments posted. In our own way, many Americans reach irrational conclusions and make nutty statements of their own.

I totally agree Ray. And also stop issuing Visas to the Pakis to come here. No more money, no more Visas and no apologies.

Couldn't agree more Ray. Sick of hearing this crap about us. The really bad thing about all this is seeing Hilary Clinton on TV all the time!! Does she look bad or what.. No Wonder Billy boy is always running around with the young things.

The United States have been in bed with Pakistan long before Obama.....you idiots need to grow a brain.

Sixty years of US aid to Pakistan: Get the data.......http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/poverty-matters/2011/jul/11/us-aid-to-pakistan

This is not about the video!! I wish the media would stop
saying it is. The video was posted on YouTube in July not on 9/11. They are
terrorist making demands on our freedom. Screw them!! Americans need to stand
together. That is how we will win! We do not kill our own because of a stupid
video. We do not take demands from terrorist. Let them destroy their own
country.. They are no better than my 2 year old when he doesn't get a cookie.
Bring the fight here and we will show them who the better country is!! God
bless America

And John268whatever.................You're so stupid that you can only comment on how people look, not ideas or actions???? And you support f*cking around in marriages? Are you Muslim boy?

Obummer-work harder other people need your money

We are always hated here in the USA and why have relations with pakistan and afghafistan..., we need to pull out of these Countries and leave them be and they are still wanting death and destuction no matter where . Keep our borders safe here and the Hell with the Mid-east .., we have our own oil and if Mitt wins I hope , we will not depend on the mid-east and just cut them off and let them kill each other ! We have a strong Air Force and Navy anyways why have troops there when they want us out ! Waste of money and time !

Ido....

Bush invited Osama Bin Laden to his ranch....what planet do you live on?

he is more arab than you think. (his fathers birth certificate). not that it matters. Do you find it strange according to your logic that Mitt has donated more to charity in two years, than Obama and Biden combined (there whole lives). Probably doesnt hate, as much as you think.

Eliminating aid to Pakistan goes without saying and any American that thinks otherwise I would question their patronage.

The United States of America is home to 4.52% of the earth's population.

There are about 1.57 billion Muslims in the world. That represents about 23 percent of the total global population of 6.8 billion.

Muslim Population is increasing at 1.84% per year.

The USA .96% for 2011.

Think about that before you post.

I think "overreaction" describes most of the comments posted here. Far too much attention being given to a middle level Pakistani bureaucrat. Additionally, the "bounty" issued by this Harry Dean Stanton look-alike, Pakistani Federal Railways Minister Haji Ghulam Ahmed Bilour, is not anything like Iran's Supreme Leader's fatwa against Salman Rushdie, who's actually is a talented and significant author, not a low rent propagandist film maker.. Imagine if Amtrak's Senior Administrator issued a comparable remark. Our media is just trying to rile us up

Enough is Enough. Agree with that 100%.

The SofS must have had a secret discussion with the Paki official.

Bill... Then you should know that, basically, "history" is fiction written by the winners and religion is, indeed the "opiate of the masses." Here, then, is an opinion (not mine, necessarily):

"Any given religion, from christianity to voodoo, is a cult. Ironically enough, the word cult is used in a derogatory term when expressing other religions. Any religion will have people congregate and will thusly be considered a cult. The two most recognized cults are christianity and the muslim faith. Though I know the story of mormanism and why I do not recognize it as a religion will not deter someone else from going. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and will follow on those beliefs. Only when people become extremist in those beliefs should been taken into much concern."

if as in cult you mean culture....that is what cult really means in its shortened form...but it is also used to mean something outside of normal religion...religion isnt really a cult..but it is a form of a culture ...a culture of people who chose to believe a certain way.....christianity is one form of culture of people who chose to believe that Christ came to this earth died for us and taught us many things and then died...leaving behind millions no jillions of believers....judism...another culture of people who are still waiting for Christ to come...their beliefs do affect how they live their live...then there are various unsundry types of beliefs out there...this country has freedom of religion ..however mormons were not allowed to practice and even allmost exterminated by senators of this country....I dont see anything wrong with religion...but when that religion preaches or its laws harm a human life..it shouldnt be allowed in the united states....so far we have seen where people of muslim or islamic faith have murdered their own children....if a religion doesnt obey the laws of the land...they should not be allowed to exist here...we are going to have to take a stand on this as its serious....

We should stop aid to EVERY COUNTRY,NOT JUST PARKISTAN!! Our government wants to take everything from us NON RICH AMERICANS and continue to take care of the world!! It's to bad we can't get rid of all the A$$HOLES IN OUR GOVERNMENT!!

You know what model,you are right and if they request aid,military or otherwise we should demand repayment with reasonable repayment terms.I mean really...if we're going to be the world's security agent then we need to run it as a business.If China wants Pakistan go right ahead,They can have Afghanistan too.They are far more able to handle things from there than we.You want to see how a Communist country handles extremists?..Oh man it aint pretty...I think China would be able to handle Al queida quite effectively indeed,heh heh..I think a nightly roundup by the Peoples Republic is necessary here what do you all think?

I totally agree that ALL AID be stopped with immediate effect. This is especially important when one of THEIRS is using US tax payers money to have an up an coming bright young film director snuffed out.

You guys in the US, need to be sat down and undergo a really good talking too. You are borrowing massive amounts money abroad, to send over to these morons so they are all cashed up to offer big dollars to snuff one of your own.

Yes, I agree that people join the defence force to shoot others or to be shot . This is their job. Why can they be shot over there and not back home defending the nation ?

We are officially at war with these murderous idiotic imbeciles, but why outside the US. Close the borders and enact a law that closes all these fanatical murderous religions with immediate effect.This religion is NO GOOD as it does not have a god or a concience . It is a front for a lunatic fringe who class murder as a national sport.

All American weapons, equipment needs to be manufactured using PIG FAT as its lubricant as of now.

Pork needs to be a staple of ALL soldiers. Pet pigs need to kept at army bases as a security deterant.

What will be the bounty when someone burns all the religion favored books that fanatics believe gives them opressive rights. And, a cartoon of each "special' person of the past in any disgusting parody.

Can do!

why would some one waist a sophisticated million dollar weapon on this sheethead ?

Good point Allen. One poster suggested that we contact our representatives and express our opinions in these matters. Must not have known that they are either on vacation or the campaign trail. The first thing we need to do is get a days work for a days pay out or our representatives. It is time to withdraw from the "stans" and spend the money to rebuild America's infrastructure. When will they just accept that changing their hearts and minds is not going to happen? When will they get our of corporate pockets and act like public servants? No incumbants!!

Wrong country.....Libya vs Pakistan.

Ido...Still "the day of love" didn't work out all that well for them either. It is the same thinking. This guy invited the Taliban and Al Quada into the mix, so it has some similarities.

Yes, they are afraid. No Country has accepted Islam without being forced to do so. The cult uses the threats and violence to control the "followers" who fear their leaders. The end goal of Islam is power and money; because from the outset they used terrorism to gain city after city with the goal of world domination. They have vast wealth and power but the populace still lives under threat of violence.

Sounds a lot like Mormonism

Mike-2594304, you are correct. Islam was always spread at the edge of a sword. The people in middle east countries don't have a choice of their religion unless they want to live in fear.

Nevertheless, their strategy for spreading it has continued to be quite effective. They are waging a low level slow war with other cultures. It involves infiltration, then replacing or out procreating the target culture before actually moving on to implementation of full Islamic control.

Because it is considered a "religion", it is aided by well meaning people in the target countries that want to show tolerance and political correctness. All of Europe is already destined to become an Islamic land and if current growth rates of Islam continue, the U.S. is next. Other countries like Japan that are selective in their immigration policies don't face the problem.

Hmm...kind of sounds like the spreading of Christianity about 400 -1000 years ago..amazing how history repeats itself..

Turn it all to glass. Then no problems

dave ,go back to pounding sand you ahole

Tooelemom-That's a stupid, uncalled for comment!!!

does that mean he needs to apologize for his apology?

what apology ?

Obama loves to apologize, he's afraid to stand up to these radicals, just like Carter!

Good one, you must be an old guy too.

Yeah, and I'm an old gal. And you big tough guys all suck the big one.

tiredofitall, I guess those videos of @!$%#ferbrains apologizing were all made up too? you democrats are almost as bad as muslims, you're just as dumb

Post some links if you say it's true... otherwise you're just blowing smoke, or smoking blow.

Now SoSickontheGop it is time to take your meds old gal. No WAIT--- you are am "old gal" so Osama Obama says "you ain't worth any more meds." Looks like you will have to make do with "end of life counseling." When that happens, bet you will be embarassed you voted for Obummer!

Oh, by the way, nasty mouth you seem to have there, do you kiss your grandchildren with that same mouth?

Go get that old gal FERN! I bet you'd like to smack her around a bit, huh?

BTW, you are just proving her point: More false talking points with no proof... fodder for small minds.

Wow SactoJD. Nobody thought of smacking women around but junk the out of your head. You sure are quick to those thoughts.

Geez, you all done with insulting each other like a pack of three year olds yet??? This country is facing some SERIOUS issues. GROW UP.

This is one government minister- are the rest of his posse sheep, do they agree with him or are they too threatened to contradict him? Separation of church and state is far more important than a lot of americans appreciate. I can't pledge to our flag because in my lifetime it has assumed an act of idolatry for many. This is not what the veterans in my family served for.

And the pledge of allegiance was written as a selling point printed on the back of school notebooks in the early 20th century.

Words can be hollow. Practice the principles of allegiance and be very mindful of that to which you quietly pledge yourself.

Does make one wonder how the minister of the railroad got so wealthy? Perhaps some of the goods sent to our troops made into his hands?

Why don't we boycott anything from Pakistan and any Pakistan business in the USA.

We should NOT boycott Pakistan or Pakistani businesses in the USA--Hopefully because we are more rational than they are. You know, two wrongs don't make a right, etc., etc.

There is a lot more to Pakistan than their talking heads. A lot of people just trying to live a life. Not all nutcases, not all Muslim. I would let the insanity play out a bit--it will disappear, I think, like other ill-conceived efforts. It feels like sometimes we just need to let them vent, because they have no other power or control. Not right, I know, but we can't (and should not) control the world.

We need too. Bring the GI's home and cut off all money. Put "In God We Trust" back on everything and start taking our coundry back.. We all need to get out and vote... I really thought he was going to do something but he has done NOTHING the last 4 yrs. We sure can't afford 4 more.

Maybe we need a worldwide ban on religion, or perhaps a 50 year cooling off period. Foreign Aid from wealthier countries provides the lifestyle for Pakistan's Leaders. This entire charade is nothing more than an attempt to get back at the Americans who arrived in the dark, killed their beloved bin Laden, and then buried the coward assassin at sea, preventing another holy place to gather. I know, maybe the Muslims can ask the Jews to ask God for another Moses, who with the flick of his rod, can part the sea. There, two religions working together for the common good of whatever!

Spare THIS!! We need to put something in their water supply that inhibits procreation. What a bunch of freakin' losers!

Muslim Population is increasing at 1.84% per year.

The USA .96% for 2011.

Don't laugh to long GOP! The way our government KISSES those DIRTY SCUMMY LOW LIFE MUSLIMS A$$ES,those A$$HOSE IN CONGRESS might AGREE with the DIRTY STINKING RAG HEADS to pass that international law!!

Lucas

Don't worry about it. With all of the ILLEGALs being granted amnesaty our population will sky rocket!

Muslims seem to be the only religious group who have an "over the top" attachment to their prophet. No other world religion has this level of adoration. It is typical of a young religion which does not have its sense of proportion. It is fanatical. You can compare it to the Christianity of the Middle Ages up through the 1600's. If you said anything against Jesus, or wrote anything or even if someone just pointed a finger at you, you were dead. It is no different now in the Muslim community. They have not grown up. Their leaders sit with a Middle Ages mindset.

The questions that should be asked, quite seriously, are "can Allah stand the heat?" and "does Mohammed really need to be defended". If Allah and Mohammed cannot do it by themselves, then I doubt that fanatics in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, Indonesia or anywhere else can help their prophet or their god.

Demanding "death" for the writers of the movie, death for the USA, death for Israel, etc., are symptomatic of backward, third world mentalities. Again, they have not matured, they have not grown up. It is almost sad that we give news time to third world nuts--but we all should know the kind of insanity that we are facing.

In general, most of us are sensitive to insulting people for any reason. We just would not do it. But in our world, satire and freedom of speech are long-accepted and long-protected traditions. We should NOT give up our freedoms for ANY REASON. EVER. If that means a "war of traditions", or "war of religions", then bring it on. It is NOT something that any of us should compromise on. If the "Muslim world" wants to isolate itself from the rest of world, that is fine. Leave US alone. Their religion is THEIR problem (and their COMFORT), NOT ours.

The Muslim world would do itself a huge service by being even more concerned about THEIR actions, and the actions of those who say that they "speak" for Muslims. A small minority have built a culture of hatred, and it reflects on ALL Muslims in a very negative way. It is a pity. They have also spent a great deal of effort attacking other religions, including Christianity and Judaism. THAT is unacceptable.

So, perhaps we should just declare our own FATWA against the defenders of Islam who are intent on killing us and our feedom of speech. The funny thing is that if they had just not made a big deal out of the movie, it would have faded into oblivion--it would not have affected anyone. As a result, Muslims have killed other Muslims and foreign nationals. Perhaps we should treat the invasion of our embassy as a real incursion into US Territory and really hit back hard.

Have a drone take him out. End of conversation.

we just get all of the towel manufacturers in the world to put a chemical on all towels sold in islamic nations that sterilizes them

Hey I have an idea.Lets let China deal with Pakistan and Afghanistan.They are more than willing to step up to the plate

when ur religion,is formed,not by what they thought was god. but, by the deceptor. decieving mohammed,and just enough peacefulness to make it look legitimite. jesus was also visited by the deceptor,in the desert,and rejected him. mohammed saw a way to legitimize perversion,and treatment of women ,and children. to suit it. the deceptor new who to approach. if i attacked a embassy,or killed a ambassador. every time my religion was attacked. there would be none left. hell just in charlotte 3 weeks ago it was. by the american avante garde atheists. "blessed are the meek for they shall inherite the earth" not the decieved,and not the self rightous. "blessed is he who is persecuted in my name,the kingdom of heaven is theirs. good luck u cold blooded murders,decieved. with the deciever giving u those 72 virgins.

I agree, with" Peacful Islam coming to a town near you", though I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of religion, Islam has no place in modern society. The re-curring theme through-out thier religion the theme is the same;, one world religion-thiers! And they are willing to sacrifice anyone and are willing to wait a 100 years or more to make this happen. They know the only way that is going to happen is to destroy all freedom of speech and all other forms of religion. It is not a belief system that can be reasoned with, though our government officials seem to think this is possible.

When will the liberals of this country figure that out? They take our money and then use it to attack us from every angle and are trying to get Islamic law into our court system- (some states have already sucumbed to certain islamic doctrines in the courts-check out some recent Florida court cases if you don't believe me....

Islam is a religion based on control, fear and hate. Yes there are some moderates within the religion, but even they seem to support thier own extremists-perhaps from fear-perhaps from agreeing with them more than they are willing to admit.. I don't know

Yes!!!
I agree with your post, however I would like to bring up some other observations of comments made in the vine.
I read things in this media that remind me of those same acts committed by mindless Muslim radicals every time someone makes a Derogatory remark against the belief of others are no better than those they persecute.
I cannot believe there are still prejudicial anarchist remarks made toward religions that are accepted "and sworn to be upheld by congress" that are allowed by the freedoms stated in the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution of these United States of America, being defiled by these statements.
Albeit, these fools have their right to express their views without hindrance as allowed also by these same documents; yet we should keep in mind, the laws of this land prohibit defamation of character, liable, or inciting of a riot. Moreover, newer legislation has limited the freedom of certain acts deemed against the security of the Nation as treasonous. Those empowered 'supposedly by congresses' to give interpretation and enforcement of these laws can target those they deem as such.
We as patriots of this Nation should keep a closer eye on not only the congress; we need to keep a watchful eye for more unlawful creation and authority of position enacted by the commander in chief's executive orders as part of his plan.
Read our history and public record of who said what, when, and why. Understand the whole body of the statement and not just bits and piece mades so prevalent in today's media presentations. Investigate who profits from the way the media is leaning and directing positive and negative comments to dissuade or convince you for your vote.
Stop the hate propagated by these so-called enlightened personages, who have relentlessly suppressed the public's ability to think for themselves. Law makers want to maintain their power over the nation to continue uninterrupted with their plan by keeping their subjects in the mode of a microscopically narrowed view of the world and life, as they see it should be.
When someone comes along that will upset the cart, their reactions is to discredit, disparage their character, lie, cheat, promise anything, using any means that will hide the ultimate goal of continued preponderance of the people.
View the larger picture, we the people of this country are letting our freedoms to be taken away, little by little through passive acceptance of the decisions made in the Whitehouse and enacted into laws.

Nice logic Tom... prove something that isn't true is in fact not true...?? Here's how logic works: You make a statement that something happened, then you show the sources/quotes to backup your claim.

The "apologist" claim is a shiny object, designed to keep the small minds occupied. It seems to be working nicely.

I think its a bad idea to publish this.With how bad our economy is someone well consider it.

maybe if we had a President who really cared about the U.S. and had the courage to stand up against this country, we wouldn't have things like this going on. Until Obama really stands up to these people, and does something about protecting the people of America, of course Americans will accuse he is a muslim, and loves those countries more than his own. Him and his wife can't even give respect to the U.S. flag, just look at all the pictures that show it..These countries will always have hate for America, no matter what we do. I will not vote for Obama, and hopefully, others will realize how bad he is for America, our protection, and our freedoms.. among many other reasons!!!