Libyan president to NBC: Anti-Islam film had 'nothing to do with' US Consulate attack

In an interview with NBC's Ann Curry, Libya's president Mohammed Magarief said there's 'no doubt' the attack that killed four Americans in Libya was preplanned, and not a result of the controversial anti-Islam movie that sparked violent protests.

 

Updated at 6:37 p.m. ET: An anti-Islam film that sparked violent protests in many countries had "nothing to do with" a deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi earlier this month, Libya's president told NBC News.

In an exclusive interview with NBC News' Ann Curry, President Mohamed Magarief discounted claims that the attack was in response to a movie produced in California and available on YouTube. He noted that the assault happened on Sept. 11 and that the video had been available for months before that.

"Reaction should have been, if it was genuine, should have been six months earlier. So it was postponed until the 11th of September," he said. "They chose this date, 11th of September to carry a certain message."


NYT: Deadly Libya attack a major blow to CIA efforts

Magarief said there were no protesters at the site before the attack, which he noted came in two assaults, first with rocket-propelled grenades on the consulate, then with mortars at a safe house.

Khaled Abdullah / Reuters

Protests ignited by a controversial film that ridicules Islam's Prophet Muhammad spread throughout Muslim world.

The attack took the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens, as well as information management officer Sean Smith and security personnel Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

US Ambassador Chris Stevens was 'courageous,' Obama says

Magarief told Curry that based on the accuracy of the assault, he believes the attackers must have had training and experience using the weapons.

"It's a pre-planned act of terrorism," he said, adding that the anti-Islam film had "nothing to do with this attack."

Though Magarief believes the attack was the work of Islamist fundamentalists, he dismisses any notion that Libya is in danger of becoming a theocracy.

Libyan President Mohammed Magarief tells NBC's Ann Curry that Islamic fundamentalists do not share the same goals and aspirations as most people in his country.

“This will never happen,“ he said. “ They don’t have the strength. They don’t have the supporters. They will remain a minority that’s isolated, that will not be accepted by us. And I’m sure Libyans will fight to the last man against seeing this happen in our land.”

'A strong friend'
Magarief said that while Libyans appeared to be behind the attack that "these Libyans do not represent the Libyan people or Libyan population in any sense of the word."

Hilary Stevens, sister of Christopher Stevens, the U.S. Ambassador to Libya who died Tuesday during an attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. In an interview with Rock Center Anchor Brian Williams, Stevens reflects on her brother's legacy and work.

He added: "We consider the United States as a friend, not only a friend, a strong friend, who stood with us in our moment of need."

More than 40 people have been questioned in connection with the incident, the Libyan leader told Curry.

He described Stevens as a "humble and very unique human being" and a "great friend of Libya."

Backlash: Protesting Libyans storm militant compound

Thousands of Libyans stormed the headquarters of an Islamist militia group in Benghazi Friday night in a deadly exchange. NBC's Ayman Mohyeldin reports.

The Obama administration initially maintained that the attacks were directly linked to protests over the film. Speaking on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sept. 16, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said: “What happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, prompted by the video.”

However, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney last week said it was "self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack."

Slain ambassador's mom: 'He was trying to do something much bigger'

Speaking before the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday, President Barack Obama said: “There are no words that excuse the killing of innocent” people.

On Tuesday, President Obama spoke to the United Nations general assembly in an emotional speech about the recent violence against Americans. NBC's Chuck Todd reports.

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Comment author avatarMUWRestored

Here Once Again Obama's Al Qaeda Connections Are Exposed...Need A Crisis Wallah And A Crisis Appears!

So Honestly Who Are The REAL Terrorists Threatening America?

It Is The CIA Sponsored Members Of Al-Qaeda In Libya & Syria (That Obama Secretly Paid) And All The Rest Of Our New UN Globalist Wall Street DHS Sponsored Gestapo Corporations And Their Secret And Not So Secret Not Wars For Fun & Profit!

And You Wonder How All Of This Disinformation Propaganda And De-Industrialization Of America Happened? Watch This New PBS Documentary!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I

Then Ask Yourself WHY DID WE ALLOW THEM To This To America? Wall Street Overlords Stampeded US Into Giving Up Our Freedom For Their Profitable NOT WARS!

Demo/RepubloRATS Do Some Research For Once Before You Spew!

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links......http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

Jul 28, 2012 – In Libya we experienced Jihad, tasted the beauty of Jihad. We are not going to Jihad like al-Qaeda and others.....http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/28/world/meast/syria-libya-fighters/index.html

Al Qaeda Plants Its Flag In Libya...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/28/al-qaeda-plants-its-flag-in-libya_n_1064651.html

Aug 1, 2012 – Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, ... numbers of Islamist militants, some of them connected to al Qaeda.....http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-obama-authorizes-secret-support-syrian-rebels-010014457.html

President Barack Obama has signed a so-called "intelligence finding" authorizing covert aid to the Syrian rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, NBC News has confirmed......http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/01/13075218-obama-authorizes-secret-us-support-for-syrian-rebels?lite

100,000 Links As Evidence And Still These UN Globalist Not War Banksters And Their Supporters Who Control Al Qaeda Do What They Want To Enslave Our Children And Ourselves And WE JUST ACCEPT IT!

War With Iran Is Just Another In Their Endless Schemes Of Global Domination and We Americans Are Their Primary Targets.....They're Are Just Weakening All Of US Up For Their ABATTOIR!

"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history." ~ George Orwell

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#1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:51 AM EDT
Comment author avatarToasty McGrathExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Better check your tin foil hat, MUW. Otherwise the brain control waves from the Mothership might slip through.

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#1.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:56 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMUWExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Nonsense Toasty McClueless.....

I Provide Content With Links You Provide Nothing But One Line Insults And Computer Generated Sock Puppet Belittlement's As If They Actually Mean Something!

A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29

Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

OK Folks....Who's The Sock Puppet / Psycho Troll And Who's A Real Poster?

“The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human.” ~ George Orwell

  • 58 votes
#1.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:05 AM EDT

Wait!!??? So, Obama was wrong again?????

I guess Obama is just as good at foreign affairs as he is with the economy.....Our fault for hiring an amateur!

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#1.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:05 AM EDT

Toasty, better check your brain cells that are thoroughly fried from too much Obamatopia and his delusional mentality that all is well with his appeasement policies towards radical Islamics. Lets hear or his lackey's explanation of the Libyan President's assessment of the pre-planned attacks. Bet they punt and kick hoping no one will notice.

  • 72 votes
#1.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:07 AM EDT

Why did we need the President of Libya to tell us the truth?? Shouldn't we have heard the truth from Obama already???? ...He certainly enjoys the limelight and going on TV....

OBAMA = FAILURE

  • 110 votes
#1.5 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:16 AM EDT

where is the liberal retort ie: (faux noise and everybody is crazy, because maddow & schultz say so) The President of Libya who warned the state dept. of pending attack ..

which might sound crazy, but how about on the 9/11 BECAUSE THEY NEVER TRIED THAT BEFORE.....

this whitehouse dropped the ball big time and looked like fools and then obama goes to UN and states "that slavery is his main concern" that should be way down on the list of concerns, since we ended it 150 years ago and seems to be living in the past... remember the first year in office his agriculture dept sought billions in reparations for black farmers and paid out over 600 million to those they could find. it all got lost when the economy crashed and was forgotten about...look it up on google...

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#1.6 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:31 AM EDT

Wait!!??? So, Obama was wrong again?????

Why is that surprising? Not lying about something, now that would be a surprise.

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#1.7 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:40 AM EDT

Blowbama is CLUELESS, INEPT, BUNGLING, ARROGANT AND UNQUALIFIED TO EVEN RUN A LEMONADE STAND. And those are his GOOD points..

What a POS the president (if you can even call the polished turd that..) TRULY is.

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#1.8 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:58 AM EDT

Toasty McGrath

I am sorry to see that you missed you flight on the Hal-Bop Comet.

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#1.9 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:15 AM EDT
Comment author avatarnunyabiz60Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I'd be questionning how much training the terrorists cost Robme and Lyin, and be checking into what promises were made by those to to china and to the israeli PM if they timed thier stunts to coincide with this and happen just before the debates. Kinda funny coincidences aren't they plus Netenyahu is Romney's self stated good and long time friend. THink about it.

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:17 AM EDT
Comment author avatarDwight PaulExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

And what are Romney s good points. Sending Jobs overseas, liquidating companies and firing everyone, disregarding the entire lower and middle class as nobody's, lying so much his own party members are becoming bankers instead of his staff employees, NO ACTUAL PLAN TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW HE WILL ACHIEVE ANY OF HIS PATHETIC IDEAS, vowing to start war with Iran and Russia, ending Social Security and Medicare, and the list goes on. MUW Your just a racist who doesnt see how much the republican party trashed our economy and had to have everyone else pick up the pieces as Republicans shot down everything Obama put out there, including the GI bill which You wrote as a bipartisan bill then voted against lol, your a sad, and misinformed human, my thoughts and prayers are with you

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#1.11 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:19 AM EDT

MUW

It's not 'wallah.' It's spelled "voila" as in the French word for "see there" Other than that, nice rant.

As for the president of Libya saying the two are not tied...MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Right. Muslims are the biggest hate-mongers on the planet and look for any excuse to act as such in the name of their religion.

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#1.12 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:27 AM EDT

nunyabiz60 and Dwight Paul

1st Nunyabiz60: What the he!! are you talking about? That stuff is for the cat, not for smoking.

2nd Dwight Paul: DAMN IT, You FOUND US OUT... HOW DID YOU DO THAT?

  • 6 votes
#1.13 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:28 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMUWExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Nonsense Dwight Paul..... Your just a racist who doesnt see....

I See VERY WELL.....I See Bush = Obama = Wall Street!

You See A 1/2 Black President And That Is All You See!

BTW Which Is EXTREMELY RACIST You sad, and misinformed human,!

Please Note Once Again Folks..... No Facts Or Rebuttal To My Facts....Merely Racist Insults!


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#1.14 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:29 AM EDT

"It's a pre-planned act of terrorism," he said, adding that the anti-Islam film had "nothing to do with this attack."

I travel to Libya several times each year since about 1997. I have many good friends there, but I lost some during the fake revoke staged by Iran. I was there in early August of this year and I was warned about the Protests planned for 11th September. The attacks were will known to happen on the 11th. I cannot believe the Obama Administration did know of this, they had to know about it. It is if they wanted it to happen for political reasons.

The Obama Administration knew about the potential for an attack, but did nothing to safeguard the USA Embassy or its staff.

Change that you can believe in? More like change in what you believe...

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#1.15 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:32 AM EDT

Dwight Paul:

Go to MittRomney.com for his plans and facts. Why must your resort to lies and distortion? Is your candidate (Obama) that horrible?

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#1.16 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:39 AM EDT

MUW I want to thank you for posting a comment with substance and evidence in the form of links that do not rely on quotes, but rather the actual record of the individuals speech and or comments to the press. Everything that has been conveyed in your post, for the most, are positions I have maintained and have also been criticized due my position and comments. The truth is that many intelligent people are simply not prepared for that truth at this point and the natural defense of the human mind is to have denied that such a painful truth could be valid, although in time the majority will see what that truth really is and what it means. Again, thank you for taking the time to present "Truth".

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#1.17 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:46 AM EDT

Psst JS69......Try Reading It As (Arabic), an oath meaning "By Allah";..........Wallah And A Crisis Appears!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallah

Though Voila Would Work If I Was Posting About A French Magician!

Sorry My Bad.....But Otherwise Thanks!

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#1.18 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:48 AM EDT
Comment author avatarAntonio VanzettiExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

MUW, does it really matter if Obama is a so called bad president with ties with terrorism. Frankly, I don't give a damn as long as he continues to kill those Muslims and makes America a GOD among countries I have no problem with him, ha in fact I'd vote him in another term. Let's make AMERICA great again by destroying anyone who doesn't agree with us. Hell, we did it to the Indians when we took there land, hahahahaah!! ;) Kill'em all

 卍卍卍 Hail Hitler, DEATH TO ALL MUSLIMS!!!!! LAUGHS EVILY

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#1.19 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:52 AM EDT

Wacko Antonio NAZI Where / Are Also WALL STREET FASCISTS.....When They Get Those KILLER DRONES Ready For America I Just Hope You And Yours Are First In Line!

Criminals Are ALWAYS Criminals And Only A Fool Would Think That They Aren't After US First And Foremost! The Rest Is Just Practicing And Honing Their Skills For When It REALLY COUNTS!

Right Here In America........The Only Real Threat Wall Street & The UN Globalist Have!

Psst....We Kicked Your Nasty NAZI A$$ Last Time And I Promise You We Will Kick Your Nasty Fascist A$$ This Time Too!

Hahaha And You Wonder Why I Call Him / Them The Obomination?

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#1.20 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:00 AM EDT

Media Matters - Tax Exempt - 70 E Mails from Eric Holder collaborating (against the law) on What NEWs stories to print & how to go after People who do not agree with Obama in the media - Illegal ~ MSM ignores this TRUE story. (of course since they get their so called coverage from who else..Media Matters)

AARP - Tax exempt - around the same number of E mails from the Obama WH collaborating (against the law) with AARP on how to sell OBAMA CARE to seniors. They did it. Media silence .

Time after Time I see older news & political people say this is the absolute worst they have ever seen the Media in the tank. To the point of DISHONESTY! witness the "It was the film" cover up that went on for almost 9 days b4 the MSM was Forced to end the Charade.

Trust & believe if the MUSLIM protest had subsided. The MSM would have stayed with The Obama DANGEROUS narrative & covered his ass to the end.

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#1.21 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:04 AM EDT

So, this is how you treat your friends? America is "a strong friend, who stood with us in our moment of need." And you repay us with death and destruction. Get a *&%$!#*&% handle on your people then if you're so chummy with us yet do nothing when they want to attack on every 11th of September to send us a message. I've got a message for you too..here it is! Can you see my finger?

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#1.22 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:09 AM EDT

Psst.....I Always Read The Collapsed Posts First But Since These Obamans Once Again Have Shown Their Support Of Free Speech (But Only Theirs) Please Allow Me The Opportunity!

Look For My Repost At The End Of The Next UN Collapsed Post............

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#1.23 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:11 AM EDT

The Obama Democrats confuse me. They adore all the plastic People in Hollywood. All those Limousine Liberals who are shelfish, greedy, use all the same LEGAL TAX CUTS as the "evil Mitt" Obama has lived a Lavish lifestyle(one he is trying to protect) on the Tax Payers backs

Obama uses the EPA to close down COAL MiNES in Ohio but Michelle & Obama can spend an Xtra 10 million to take separate planes to the SAME vacation spot? Michelle can't even save the TAX payer money and fly with her own husband?

Its like Obama Democrats worship the partying "COOL" crowd of Millionaires in Hollywood. But they despise the so called "uncaring" Rich who create jobs. How can they worship crap like "The Real Housewives"

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#1.24 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:15 AM EDT
Comment author avatarbreadexExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No Facts Or Rebuttal To My Facts

U have not posted one fact just propoganda pieces from convenient web sites and blogs idiot

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#1.25 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:48 AM EDT

You're a moron that doesn't understand how the Twin Towers of World Trade Center were built! No other buildings with the height of those two have ever been built that way or ever will again. They didn't stand a chance to remain standing. Not only that but I don't believe you saw it as it happened and have let your self be brain washed into believing this garbage. Get some help before you hurt someone!

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#1.26 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:25 AM EDT

Dwight Paul and the rest of you Obama clones. What part the FACT the dems controlled the senate (fillibuster proof until Ted kennedy died), house and the white house for the first two years of Obamas presidency.

They (the dems) could have passed ANYTHING they wanted into law. Anything! For half of Obamas term! How were the republicans being obstructionists? You couldn't get your own party to go along! You had to bribe your own caucus just to pass Obamacare!

Quit blaming the repubs and calling them the "party of no"! You had complete control of the law making process for 2 years and did nothing!

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#1.27 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:11 AM EDT

Love2troops

Republicans truly confuse me. They adore vulture capitalists, who are selfish, greedy, complain about the 47% of Americans but yet they can't release their own taxes, and turn their backs on rich people who also use the same tax cuts.

Obama has requested coal producing facilities adhere to better regulations. Course, Republicans don't care about the environment or the people who live around these areas. Long as they can breathe and get their energy at the cheapest rate all is good. They also have a tendency to ignore that Dubya spent 112 MILLION on his vacations and took more vacation time than Obama did, but hey... Obama is not subjected to the same standard, his must be higher.

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#1.28 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:15 AM EDT

The Obama administration initially maintained that the attacks were directly linked to protests over the film. Speaking on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sept. 16, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said: “What happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, prompted by the video.”

Once again Obama failed! At least their leader is willing to tell the truth. Now, what about that weapons recovery mission???

  • 33 votes
#1.29 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:37 AM EDT
Comment author avatarbig bird or big turd?Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

MUW = TROLL

I cannot believe you people that argue with this impostor

Desperate people do and say desperate things...

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#1.30 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:53 AM EDT

Obama insist blaming the Mohammad film in the UN , for the attack to our embassy, because one more time he want to blame something else, and do not take responsibilities. According to notes from Ambassador Stevens the Embassy in Libya was unprotected, AlQaeda was raising. In the day of the attack 9/11/2012 AlQaeda pay back the death of Osama killing our Ambassador and his guards , after 4 hours of siege and calling for help. Obama did not answer the 3 AM call. It was more important his election campaign , his fundraiser in Vegas, than the lives of Americans. Arab Spring is a failure, Obama is a failure for empower radical in their governments

Osama is dead , and Ambassador Stevens and his guards are too.

But AlQaeda is strong and alive. Thanks to the weak policies of appeasement , apologies and olive branches toward barbarians people.

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#1.31 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:02 AM EDT

Of course the movie had nothing to do with the attacks. Obama's claims are all about covering hid derelict azz.

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#1.32 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

So NBC is just now reporting this? Somebody up top must have figured out that almost EVERY other news outlet had reported this over a week ago and their blind support of Obama is making them look stupid. No wonder they have the LOWEST rating of any news outlet.

Even with this revelation Obama continues with his LIES, stating in his address to the U.N. that the attack in Libya was provoked by that stupid, amaturish film. When are people going to wake up to the fact that Obama is nothing more than a self-agrandizing, self absorbed used car salesman that has sold the American people what he called hope and change when in fact we got no hope and only change left in our pockets.

Time for REAL Change: Gary Johnson - Libertarian for President 2012

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#1.33 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

Time for REAL Change: Gary Johnson - Libertarian for President 2012

Because he doesn't stand a chance in hell! Wasting a vote is just another for Obama

  • 15 votes
#1.34 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:44 AM EDT

Itsabouttime:

Of course W spend more time on vacation than OB.... he had twice the tenure

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#1.35 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:54 AM EDT

In the statement, CNN's representative said: "We think the public had a right to know what CNN had learned from multiple sources about the fears and warnings of a terror threat before the Benghazi attack which are now raising questions about why the State Department didn't do more to protect Ambassador Stevens and other US personnel," the representative said "Perhaps the real question here is why is the State Department now attacking the messenger."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443890304578012473529847226.html?mod=djkeyword

Shame on Hillary and Obama!

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#1.36 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:55 AM EDT

Libyan president to NBC: Anti-Islam film had 'nothing to do with' US Consulate attack

But, but, but Barrack Hussein, Hillarious Clinton, Susan Rice, Gay Carney, Sergeant Ed Schultz, Richard Maddow and others said it was the movie.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

And all the Barrack Hussein chair sniffers believe it. Of course all the news coming out contrary to that LIE has been dismissed by the Liberal Lamestream media to cover for our Incompetent-in-Chief.

Ambassador Stevens was concerned for his safety weeks before his ASSASSINATION! Of course the administration was too busy battling things like the "War on Women" here. This is the extent of their conflict resolution.

Our Ambassador is in one of the most unstable regions in the Middle East and security was told not to have live ammunition in their guns. Of course, we don't want to insult Al Qaeda do we?

BTW, I thought Al Qaeda was done now that Barrack Hussein killed Osama Porn Laden. You don't think the incessant "spiking of the football" by Barrack, Joe "Bite Me" Biden and others had anything to do with inciting more violence, do you?

This whole disaster is turning into a major cluster f**k. Barrack Hussein has time to be flying to Las Vegas on the day of the assassination of 4 Americans, visit with Jay-C and the "Pimp with a Limp", go on Letterman and the View.

This can only be explained as INCOMPETENCE and total DISREGARD for the safety of Americans by our Narcissist-in-Chief.

No matter how you limp-wristed Libbies try to cover this you KNOW what a horrible mistake you made in 2008. Of course you'll try and deflect all this with your typical Liberal talking points and blame Bush, Reagan or maybe Lincoln for all of poor Barrack Husseins mistakes.

No one is buying it but you who have been chugging the Kool-Aid. We real Americans know that you only voted for Barrack Hussein to convince yourselves you're not racist. The only thing we can hope for is that you don't repeat your mistake and prove your stupidity.

Wake up Libbies before your indoctrination is irreversible.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans

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#1.37 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

Well, well, well, I was wondering where all the GOP apologists have gone. HERE THEY ARE piling onto a non-issue to make themselves feel better about losing the Presidential election.

Is there a tone of HATE and DESPERATION to these posts? yep. Sad, really sad.

Well kiddies, have fun, not a one of you are bright enough to realize what is really going on here. But let me help you out just a bit, not that you'll understand or appreciate it.

Could it be that the President and his advisers KNOW it was a planned and scripted event? Could it be they know or are close to knowing who the perpetrators are and don't want to tip them off? Maybe, he's planning a little "demonstration" of his own and does'nt want them all running and hiding in their little holes?

Let's keep in mind....

President Barack Hussein Obama is the man who bagged Osama Bin Laden in two years when the Bush Administration failed to find and kill him in the six years prior to that. That's because President Obama listened to his intelligence experts, kept his eyes on the prize and knew when to pull the trigger. He didn't run in circles screaming the sky is falling, the sky is falling. He waited for his opportunity and took his shot. One shot, one kill. No more bin Laden.

Rave on, little Republicans, rave on. I think the President is going to have a little "October surprise" for you and America's enemies. I was tempted to say "other enemies", but I resisted temptation. You're not our enemies, you are simply uninformed and misguided. Hopefully you will eventually see the error of your ways, or it's going to be a LOOOONG four years for you.

Obama/Biden 2012

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#1.38 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

Sad that the Libyan President is telling the Americans the truth while our own President is lying to the Americans.

What is even sadder is that the media is still covering up for Obama. They take his explanation as fact with no follow-up.

Example would be when Barbara Walters asked Obama about the Libya attack and she accepted his non-answer.

  • 10 votes
#1.39 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

When the President of Libya and the Prime Minister of Israel are in agreement ... that is historic.

And, they are in agreement and in the news about one issue. They are each on TV reaching out to the US public to open the US public's eyes that Obama is an empty chair.

  • 10 votes
#1.40 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

President Barack Hussein Obama is the man who bagged Osama Bin Laden in two years

You left off the part about USING intelligence that BUSH obtained and Obama voted against!

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#1.41 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

vowing to start war with Iran and Russia, ending Social Security and Medicare, and the list goes on.

Care to back any of that up? The "vowing to start war" is a quote that came directly from Biden, it was never said by Romney. In fact, Romney and Obama have basically the same stance on use of military force in Iran....but don't let that get in the way of the Kool-Aid.

NO ACTUAL PLAN TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW HE WILL ACHIEVE ANY OF HIS PATHETIC IDEAS

Romney has no plan? Funny, the Bill Clinton endorsement ads for Obama say he has a plan for the economy. Where has this plan been for the last 4 years? Remember Obamacare initially? No? Let me remind you...wasn't it something akin to "we won't know what it is until we pass it into law". Sound familiar? Or are we in denial mode now?

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#1.42 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

skip Nicholson, Oklahoma City

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Oh yeah Skippy, Barrack Hussein, Debbie Whatsername Slutz, Gay Carney and Joe "Bite Me" Biden are secretly formulating an "October Surprise". Your devotion to this failure of a president is commendable but embarrassing to watch.

So we're to believe he just allowed 4 of our American citizens to be murdered so he can plan some convoluted "October Surprise"? Your Liberal/Progressive delusion is sickening. But it wouldn't surprise me that Barrack Hussein would go to these extremes to look competent, nothing else has worked so far.

With all that's going on in the Middle East you Libbies still believe that "bagging" Osama Porn Laden meant more than a symbolic act for 9/11. Al Qaeda is well armed and well funded as they expand their sphere of influence and exert their terrorism throughout the Middle East, Africa and Asia.

So go ahead and spread your wishful thinking gibberish to each other Skippy, only you Barrack Hussein chair sniffers believe it, the rest of us who know and regretfully accept what a failure he is know better.

Try to keep up Spanky.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans

  • 7 votes
#1.43 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

What's wrong Skip, can't defend Obama and his lackeys for lying about the pre-planned Benghazi attacks and failing to defend Americans there. Yeah, well Romney's not the CIC so your miserable deflection of the Obama's failure is moot.

  • 6 votes
#1.44 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:06 AM EDT

卍卍卍 Hail Hitler, DEATH TO ALL MUSLIMS!!!!! LAUGHS EVILY

Antonio Vanzetti banned. 'Death to all' usually isn't a CoH-compliant phrase.

Better check your tin foil hat, MUW. Otherwise the brain control waves from the Mothership might slip through.

Toasty, better check your brain cells that are thoroughly fried from too much Obamatopia

I am sorry to see that you missed you flight on the Hal-Bop Comet.

U have not posted one fact just propoganda pieces from convenient web sites and blogs idiot

Toasty McGrath, Tad-401841,Times-Running-Out, breadex, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

...

Nonsense Toasty McClueless.....

Since These Robo-Posting Obamans

Your just a racist who doesnt see....

MUW, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

  • 2 votes
#1.45 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

I thought these people were protesting for health reform. They look like they don't have a dental plan for sure.

  • 2 votes
#1.46 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:46 AM EDT
Reply
Comment author avatarjeff-3739215Restored

Well said.

Obama is a George Soros Puppet.

When will we ever learn?

  • 63 votes
#2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:05 AM EDT
Comment author avatarFamousAmos-3755959Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

If Barack Obama cured cancer, Republicans would STILL want him out because;

  1. He must have known the cure this whole time, but only now is sharing it with the world so he can be re-elected.
  2. He must be a witch!
  3. He wants to share the cure with everyone who needs it, even *gasp* the poor.
  4. It’s not really the cure, it’s just a placebo and he is lying, you know, like when he said he would create a healthcare plan for all and bring the troops home.
  5. He’s not a rich old white man.
  • 17 votes
#2.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:11 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMUWExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Psst.....I Always Read The Collapsed Posts First But Since These Robo-Posting Obamans Once Again Have Shown Their Support Of Free Speech (But Only Theirs) Please Allow Me The Opportunity!

Here Once Again Obama's Al Qaeda Connections Are Exposed...Need A Crisis Voila (For JS) And A Crisis Appears!

So Honestly Who Are The REAL Terrorists Threatening America?

It Is The CIA Sponsored Members Of Al-Qaeda In Libya & Syria (That Obama Secretly Paid) And All The Rest Of Our New UN Globalist Wall Street DHS Sponsored Gestapo Corporations And Their Secret And Not So Secret Not Wars For Fun & Profit!

And You Wonder How All Of This Disinformation Propaganda And De-Industrialization Of America Happened? Watch This New PBS Documentary!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I

Then Ask Yourself WHY DID WE ALLOW THEM To This To America? Wall Street Overlords Stampeded US Into Giving Up Our Freedom For Their Profitable NOT WARS!

Demo/RepubloRATS Do Some Research For Once Before You Spew!

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links......http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

Jul 28, 2012 – In Libya we experienced Jihad, tasted the beauty of Jihad. We are not going to Jihad like al-Qaeda and others.....http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/28/world/meast/syria-libya-fighters/index.html

Al Qaeda Plants Its Flag In Libya...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/28/al-qaeda-plants-its-flag-in-libya_n_1064651.html

Aug 1, 2012 – Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, ... numbers of Islamist militants, some of them connected to al Qaeda.....http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-obama-authorizes-secret-support-syrian-rebels-010014457.html

President Barack Obama has signed a so-called "intelligence finding" authorizing covert aid to the Syrian rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, NBC News has confirmed......http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/01/13075218-obama-authorizes-secret-us-support-for-syrian-rebels?lite

100,000 Links As Evidence And Still These UN Globalist Not War Banksters And Their Supporters Who Control Al Qaeda Do What They Want To Enslave Our Children And Ourselves And WE JUST ACCEPT IT!

War With Iran Is Just Another In Their Endless Schemes Of Global Domination and We Americans Are Their Primary Targets.....They're Are Just Weakening All Of US Up For Their ABATTOIR!

"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history." ~ George Orwell

  • 16 votes
#2.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:13 AM EDT

MUW- Boy, you really do have it all figured out! You genius you. Better look out, any minute now, ANY minute...the CIA or Secret Service will be knocking down your door. You just shared with everyone all their secret plans to take over the world! CIA don't like that very much. Sleep tight MUW..sleeeeeep tight.

  • 16 votes
#2.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:34 AM EDT
Comment author avatarLove2troopsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

To MY Fellow Conservatives..

I urge you not to get into pissing contest with these Obama Zealouts. It is a tried & true method of the left.

As long as they can keep us sparing with them we avoid posting the SHOCKING HORRIFIC truth about Obama his Messiah Media is covering up.

Whenever I post on here I try to think of all the readers at home sitting on their computers. Thats who I post to.

My message is to expose the corrupt media as well as this Dishonest. Race bating. War on success. President. Just a thought .......... Thanks ~

P.S. Debating Obama Democrats is like trying to eat JELLO with a fork.

  • 46 votes
#2.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:35 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMUWExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hey Cookie Monster Do You Actually Have An Intelligent Point To Make? Obviously NOT!

Once Again Folks No Rebuttal Or Facts Just More Silly Threats & Nasty Nonsense!

The Obomination Sure Has His Third String Clowns Out Tonight!

  • 16 votes
#2.5 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:42 AM EDT

Another Helpful Tip to my fellow conservatives is this.....Try to keep the post short & to the point. Often I see fantastic post from Conservatives.

And of course, WE always have to supply proof. Hence our tendency is to overkill. If the post are too long a Reader will Gloss over them, or worse yet ignore.

I hope I'm not coming off trying to inhibit your FREE SPEECH ~ We can leave that to the Democrats!

I just want our VALID TRUTHFUL counter to the Corrupt MSM to be effective.

  • 33 votes
#2.6 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:44 AM EDT

Actually famous amos, it's not just republicans who want to end obamas' reign of deceit and fiscal travesty. ANYONE WITH A BRAIN and an aotitude for research into this liars' History and Background wants him GONE!!! Guess that excludes you, doesn't it???

  • 38 votes
#2.7 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:46 AM EDT
Comment author avatarFamousAmos-3755959Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I don't need a rebuttal. Just pointing out the obvious, that the CIA will undoubtedly be pissed that you just uncovered all the nasty truths that we, blind Americans weren't made aware of until you saved us!

psssst. Is that how it works? You know...the whole, bold every other word thingy?

  • 8 votes
#2.8 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:49 AM EDT
Comment author avatarFamousAmos-3755959Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Yes mod, me and a $#!T TON of the country. Checked the polls lately? IT IS A LANDSLIDE! See ya in November!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!

  • 8 votes
#2.9 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:51 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMUWExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No Cookie Monster You Are Just Another Nasty Little Clueless Troll Out Spewing Your Toxic Garbage As If It Means Something...... Which It Doesn't!

Psst Who Needs Facts Or Rebuttals When You Have Such An Anus? Just One More Famous Example Why Barry Is The Obomination!

Obama (Bush & Cheney) To The Hague In 2013 For Not War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity For Blowing Up Little Children With Killer Drones EVERYWHERE!

  • 12 votes
#2.10 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:07 AM EDT
Comment author avatarPJ-1795048Restored

So the lybian president is a CIA sponsored president?

If so - he is contradicting Obama - does it mean CIA wants to contradict Obama?

So if CIA had these attacks carried out through their sponsored AL-Qaida terrorists then is Obama anti-Al Qaida?

My head is spinning already. But I wonder if this is some kind of desperate warped swift-boating of Obama's reelection bid - where Obama clearly is headed for a victory.

  • 6 votes
#2.11 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:12 AM EDT

PJ So What Are You Actually Trying To Say?

#1 The Libyan President Claims Al Qaeda Attacked Our Consulate In Libya.

#2 Obama Has provably Been Providing Secret Aid To Al Qaeda In Both Libya & Syria

#3 Obama Has Made A Great Deal Of Publicity From This Event Over Dead American Bodies.

Simple Enough? Now Draw Your Own Conclusions For The Why.

Psst It's Still A Little Too Early To Be Counting Your RATS!

Personally I Just Refuse To Reward A Lying Failure Like Bailout Barry.....Unlike You Obamans I Obviously Care About Knowing The Truth!

  • 19 votes
#2.12 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:29 AM EDT
Comment author avatarir12Restored

I fail to see why a President waiting for facts is such a bad thing. Obviously, we know Mitt does not believe in facts. Terrorist attack or not, Mitt's actions following the attack were shameful. That is a fact you cannot change. Look where not waiting for facts got us with President Bush. If Mitt jumping the gun and commenting on the attack before it even happened is all you got, it will not work. There are people that deal only in facts and wait before passing judgement. It is easy for us to say, it had to be a terrorist attack, but a President has to know for sure before he/she can say it.

Now it seems that the President waiting for the facts and not shooting from the hip is the entire Republican campaign strategy. I guess it is better than talking about taxes.

  • 8 votes
#2.13 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:33 AM EDT

MUW - can you please not use bold when responding to me. I just woke up and my eyes hurt looking at bold. My apologies for the inconvenience.

So coming back to the Libya - how did Obama support aid to Al Quida? Did he use CIA or has he created a parallel CIA? Regardless - it seems Libyan president is pretty much puppet of whoever installed him president after the Libyan "uprising". So is he an Obama puppet. If so why is he contradicting obama?

Thank you for your patience.

  • 6 votes
#2.14 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:40 AM EDT

ir12....Wow What An UN Elegant Way To Say Obama Lied To US Again.....Remember Bailout Barry Knew The Attack Was Coming At Least 48 Hours In Advanced!

And Obama ALWAYS KNEW It Was Not A Spontaneous Attack Yet His Administration Hid Behind A Woman's Skirt And Claimed It Wasn't Obama's Fault.....It Was SPONTANEOUS!

Sep 16, 2012 10:11am Ambassador Susan Rice: Libya Attack Not Premeditated

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/ambassador-susan-rice-libya-attack-not-premeditated/

No Matter How They Spin It Around & Around This Story Just Won't Let Go!

PJ I've Already Posted Links To All Of My Statements To Obama....Sorry About Your Eyes....Maybe You Should Waiting Until December Before You Post?

Psst I Never Said The Libyan President Was Al Qaeda.....I Said Most Of The "Others" That Formed His Government And That We Are Sending To Syria Are. A French Doctor Just Said 1/2 Of The Free Syrian Army Are Al Qaeda......

  • 13 votes
#2.15 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:48 AM EDT

MUW

"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history." ~ George Orwell

You fail to realize that the current Orwellian lies are being told by the Republicans and Faux Noose and their puppet master Karl Rove.

  • 9 votes
#2.16 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:52 AM EDT

and if you are going to wait for all of the facts you might as well be comfortable and be entertained.

what better place for comfort and entertainment than Vegas!

shameful

  • 12 votes
#2.17 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:55 AM EDT

Psst PJ Since I Posted A New Claim Allow Me To Also Provide The Supporting Links.....

French Surgeon: Half of Rebels In Syria Are Al-Qaeda Terrorists

http://www.infowars.com/french-surgeon-half-of-rebels-in-syria-are-al-qaeda-terrorists/

And Since Seeing Is Believing.......Syria: 'Half the fighters I treated were jihadists,' says French doctor.....He was also shocked when one of the two young men said that the "example to follow in France was Mohamed Merah." Merah, a 23-year-old self-styled al Qaeda jihadist, was shot dead by French police in March 2012 after he killed seven people, including Jewish schoolchildren, in France's southwest city of Toulouse.

http://www.france24.com/en/20120911-foreign-jihadists-syria-doctors-without-borders-aleppo-jacques-beres

Psst....JymAllyn "We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right." ~ George Orwell

Bush = Obama = Wall Street......Now That Should Be Simple Enough For Even An Obaman!

  • 5 votes
#2.18 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:00 AM EDT

Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo

Being able to fully understand that statement is where you problem lies. The United States response to a terrorist attack is very different from what our response to a protest getting out of control would be. In a terrorist attack, we will go after the ones responsible for the attack, even if it means having to invade another country. (See Afghan war and bin Laden hiding in Pakistan for example). This means putting United States troops at risk. Excuse me if we have a President that wants to be sure before he gives the order.

I suppose from your comments you believe we should have already invaded Libya.

  • 5 votes
#2.19 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:01 AM EDT

ir12 Nothing But Excuses Once Again..... Obama Was "Sure" At Least 48 Hours In Advanced And ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN! Since Then He Has Been Trying His Hardest TO Cover Up His Lies!

Why? Obama Has A "MACHO" Image Problem And What Better Way To Boost Your Sagging Image Than A Flag Draped Coffin.

Anyone Remember Oh Dark Thirty And I Got bin NOBODY (Or Is That NODOBY)? Syria / Iran Is / Was A Non Starter SOooo......

Judge Them By What They Do And NEVER Merely By What They Spew! If Their Lips Are Moving......

  • 10 votes
#2.20 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:24 AM EDT

The fact is we lost our first American ambassador inside a Consulate in decades, and it happened under Obama's watch due to indisputably inadequate security.

However, Obama will not have to take responsibility for this. The media will spin it and his followers will twist and contort it to fit their world.

It's Bush's fault. It's the economies fault. It's the world's fault. It's the moon's fault.

Anybody and/or anything can take responsibility except Obama.

  • 26 votes
#2.21 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:27 AM EDT

It is horrendous that our admin blamed a video on the attack, trying to cover up fault of the terrorists. Now this admins focus on videos has started more unrest. Remember, Egypt said their uprisings were inspired by Obama's speech in 2009. Now, the entire Muslim world is at war. (ironic that Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize???) Also...Obama shared secrets with Hollywood so they could make a movie about glorifying the Bin Ladin assassination. What do you think THAT will do to outrage the Muslim world? Why is not this admin banning THAT upcoming movie???? And...the man and his family who posted a youtube video in June has now been forced to go into hiding, harassed by the law,...due to the media revealing his address. Free speech, yet forced into hiding like someone in the China regime....

  • 11 votes
#2.22 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:31 AM EDT

WASHINGTON, DC: The White House just confirmed... the embassy attacks were the fault of George W. Bush. In fact, they think he personally might have planned and carried out the attacks since every other person, and group, on Earth LOVES Barack Hussein Obama because he is SO COOL! More from The White House, the reason Obama did not respond to the attacks sooner (as our ambassador was being dragged through the streets like a scene from "Weekend at Bernies") had nothing to do with the fact he was stumping a Vegas hooker.

  • 14 votes
#2.23 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:33 AM EDT

MUW - If you know "for sure", you must be a high ranking government official. Why don't you call up Fox News and go on air with your knowledge. They would love to have you. Of is it you would end up looking like this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyAZPVEmpo

  • 3 votes
#2.24 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:43 AM EDT

@ir12 -- it's disgraceful that Romney's reaction was to stand up for his country? Really? How un-American of you.

  • 8 votes
#2.25 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:46 AM EDT

"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history." ~ George Orwell

You do realize that he was talking about socialism right?

  • 6 votes
#2.26 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:49 AM EDT

JoDepper - Romney was not standing up for his country. He was trying to make political points during a crisis before all the facts were in. Anything to deflect attention from his dismal campaign.

  • 4 votes
#2.27 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:58 AM EDT

Obama continue misleading Americans not telling the truth about the attack in Libya. We all know that the film was not responsible for the death of Ambassador Stevens , President of Libya say so too, Obama insist for political reason he need to lie, lie , lie and blame because his reelection is in play. However is absurd to continue with his theatrical game pretending ignore the facts. Obama and his foreign policy are a failure.

Mr. Biden

Obama is dead but AlQaeda is well and Alive

GM is alive but Ford that didn't get bailout from Obama is well and better than GM.

  • 8 votes
#2.28 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

So, there was really only one attack - glad to know that KFC didn't really burn to the ground.

I guess there are no bountys on peoples heads either.

This is just the Libyan President trying to protect the money his country gets from the USA - politics as usual. But boy it is entertaining to see where some of you have gone with this.

The BOLD type totally ruined the natural flow of reading - even if there is good info in the message - it wasn't worth all the solve the puzzle effort required to try and stay on track. Next time you want special attention - light your pants on fire - I'll pay attention to anything on fire.

  • 3 votes
#2.29 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:18 AM EDT

An anti-Islam film that sparked violent protests in many countries had "nothing to do with" a deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi earlier this month, Libya's president told NBC News.

The first line in this "article" shows the media's absolute devotion to protecting the Obama administration and lying to the American people even in the face of absolute proof of their deception. The people who continue to support Obama at this point in the game are too ignorant to save. The hope to spread truth and factual information to the masses in an effort to circumvent the mainstream media's constant misinformation is pointless and should be abandoned. I believe it is time to begin the rally of support for those who ARE informed and patriotic to insure that we flood the polls in massive numbers, the likes never seen before. Trying to convince a die hard liberal that things are not a shallow as "hungry, give food" and "poor, give money" is an impossible task. The entire POINT behind being a liberal is that they have no understanding of consequences of actions or personal responsibility and lack the depth of character to see the forest for the trees.

  • 3 votes
#2.30 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:45 AM EDT
Reply

In response to the consulate attack, the president said, "The United States is a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others."

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said the Libya attack was "spontaneous" and started with the attack on the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, Egypt, over an anti-Islamic film.

The staff of the Cairo embassy, … condemned the film and the "continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions."

Democratic strategist Kirsten Powers said Monday the question now is whether the Obama administration lied or is clueless. She acknowledged neither is a great scenario.

I go with the "Obama is clueless" theory.

  • 134 votes
#3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:06 AM EDT

I don't know, the Obama administration does lie a lot, too.....

  • 93 votes
#3.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:11 AM EDT

I would wholeheartedly guess lied AND clueless.....the Pretender-in-Chief is INEPT and a BUNGLING FOOL.

  • 109 votes
#3.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:00 AM EDT

I said it before and I'll say it again.

I do not necessarily believe that Obama knew the attacks were going to happen, but.....

1. It was 9/11 and even the biggest dumb-ass knows that 9/11 is like Christmas for these @!$%#s now. Every US Installation in the world -but especially in the Mid East- should have been on hightened alert.

2. From Day 1 Obama has been in over his head. He simply dosn't have the stroke needed for the office he holds. He just doesn't. He didn't have it when elected and he doesn't have it now. Theres a reason why he hasn't been able to do much of anything and lack of influence on the powers that be is the top reason why. He has duped alot of the population into believing his words, but in the end, thats all he really has to offer. Words and phrases that sound good.....

  • 122 votes
#3.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:52 AM EDT

Marine embassy guards always have a clip in their weapons.Rice gave the order that they weren't suppose to carry any ammo. Seems damn weird. If those marines had been fully locked and loaded, there would have been bodies laying in the street. I think that it was a setup for what purpopse. who knows. but sooner or later the truth will come out and obama and company are going to be in a hell iof a world of hurt.

  • 98 votes
#3.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:32 AM EDT

I read a New York Times article which basically said Obama is clueless when it comes to foriegn affairs and policy, and often does not listen to his advisors....so why the hell does he have advisors when he thinks they are dumber than he is....advisors are there because they have knowledge and insight regarding those subjects which he brought them in for...Obama needs to be fired....

  • 88 votes
#3.5 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:45 AM EDT

Obama should've just gone ahead with "Terrorist" cry, lied about "nukular" ambitions of Libya Egypt and Tunisia and opened up a few more wars.

Gee - why can't democrats figure out how to call out to the fears of american people and get elected?

p.s. - And of course those wars would create millions of jobs back home since wars need lots of supplies (unless of course) willard and his team outsourced maufacturing of those supplies too.

  • 15 votes
#3.6 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:34 AM EDT

Psst.....I Always Read The Collapsed Posts First But Since These Robo-Posting Obamans Once Again Have Shown Their Support Of Free Speech (But Only Theirs) Please Allow Me The Opportunity To Show How Nasty And UN American Obamans Really Are!

Truth Means Nothing To An Wall Street Supporting Obaman Only Wishing For 4 More Years Of Hopey Changey Nonsense Means Anything But The Truth Obviously Hurts Them Bad!

Here Once Again Obama's Al Qaeda Connections Are Exposed...Need A Crisis Voila (Just For JS) And A Crisis Appears!

So Honestly Who Are The REAL Terrorists Threatening America?

It Is The CIA Sponsored Members Of Al-Qaeda In Libya & Syria (That Obama Secretly Paid) And All The Rest Of Our New UN Globalist Wall Street DHS Sponsored Gestapo Corporations And Their Secret And Not So Secret Not Wars For Fun & Profit!

And You Wonder How All Of This Disinformation Propaganda And De-Industrialization Of America Happened? Watch This New PBS Documentary!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I

Then Ask Yourself WHY DID WE ALLOW THEM To This To America? Wall Street Overlords Stampeded US Into Giving Up Our Freedom For Their Profitable NOT WARS!

Demo/RepubloRATS Do Some Research For Once Before You Spew!

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links......http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

Jul 28, 2012 – In Libya we experienced Jihad, tasted the beauty of Jihad. We are not going to Jihad like al-Qaeda and others.....http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/28/world/meast/syria-libya-fighters/index.html

Al Qaeda Plants Its Flag In Libya...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/28/al-qaeda-plants-its-flag-in-libya_n_1064651.html

Aug 1, 2012 – Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, ... numbers of Islamist militants, some of them connected to al Qaeda.....http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-obama-authorizes-secret-support-syrian-rebels-010014457.html

President Barack Obama has signed a so-called "intelligence finding" authorizing covert aid to the Syrian rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, NBC News has confirmed......http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/01/13075218-obama-authorizes-secret-us-support-for-syrian-rebels?lite

100,000 Links As Evidence And Still These UN Globalist Not War Banksters And Their Supporters Who Control Al Qaeda Do What They Want To Enslave Our Children And Ourselves And WE JUST ACCEPT IT!

War With Iran Is Just Another In Their Endless Schemes Of Global Domination and We Americans Are Their Primary Targets.....They're Are Just Weakening All Of US Up For Their ABATTOIR!

"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history." ~ George Orwell

  • 28 votes
#3.7 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:08 AM EDT

10 SIgns you've been propagandized : 1.) YOu have a strong reaction about things which do not even touch you personallly. 2.) regardlesss of the topic you find a way to bring it back to your own obsessive interest.3.) It's been a reallly long time since you changed your opinion (this is because no new information is permittted past the threshold. 4.) THe people you hang out with always agreee with you (even if they roll their eyes every time you start up. 5.) You find yourself strongly supporting things that, should they be enacted would actuallly have a negative impact on you.6.) something that seems of vital importance on one day will be totallly forgottten on the next. 7.) Your mind focusses on negative events that have not and , in many cases, willl not happpen.8. You feeel that you are the subjecdt of manipulation by people who are in opposition to your real programmmers.9.) I'd include nine and ten but I'm a lazy Liberal 47 per center.

  • 21 votes
#3.8 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:14 AM EDT

I go with Obama is a liar since that is all he knows how to do.

  • 55 votes
#3.9 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

obumbo BLAMES a stupid video rather than admit that he has no clue about foreign affairs. This inept bastard needs to be voted OUT for the good of the country.

  • 49 votes
#3.10 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:33 AM EDT

Screamingforvengeance, there hadn't been an attack on Sept 11, since 2001, why would Obama, or anyone else in their right mind, think that there would be an attack this year and plan ahead for it, and somehow have guards everywhere at the same time?

I mean he's only the President, not God.

  • 8 votes
#3.11 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:34 AM EDT

Kannin,

Any person who atains the Presidency is not clueless, Rep or Dem. You may be though. One may disagree with the idealology of someone else, but that does not make them clueless. Clueless is someone who belittles someone else because they disagree. It may have been a reactionary response prior to getting all the facts. He was most likely advised to respond so as to keep tensions down.

  • 10 votes
#3.12 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:37 AM EDT

Purnell - stop using logical balanced thought - you can't compete with what their preachers feed them. It is much easier to just go with the hate, you think you are lazy - hitting the hate (easy) button is much lazier.

Those who paid to put Bush and Obama in office, don't pay to guard embassies - if you want to be safe in the Middle East - live next to an oil field, when was the last time one of those were attacked?

I love trying to edit a post here - damn page is jumping all over the place thanks to the endless ads loading.

  • 4 votes
#3.13 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:40 AM EDT

Are we stupid. ?

Can we reelect a president after 4 years of failure in foreign policies?

Can we reelect a president that can't bring our economy back?

Can we reelect a president that put his ideology over the safety of of our citizens?

Can we reelect a president that do not care about the debt?

Can we reelect a president that favor illegal immigration?

Can we reelect a a president that believe you do not own your success?

Can we reelect a president that do not respect our religious beleif?

Stop the Obamania , wake up folks.

Romney show he can lead our country , he can work with both side of the isle and move this country that is stuck in the mod, for the partisan ideologies of Obama.

  • 60 votes
#3.14 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

I am so sick about hearing that the outrage and attack on Stevens, and our Navy Seals was because of a film!! Obama and the "Media" does not want to admit it was an act of terrorist! Never in my years of life have I ever seen the media be so devoted to a President, especially one who lies and covers up to make himself look good!! All Obama cares about is Obama!!

  • 51 votes
#3.15 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:46 AM EDT

The president of Libya would state this so he can drag us into their war. They need help and they know it.

  • 5 votes
#3.16 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:49 AM EDT

There is a heightened alert every Sept. 11th. Where is this coming from that there wasn't? The amount of misinformation and outright lies is overwhelming. Why care about pesky things like truth when you can make up whatever story you want in your head and make it true?

Second, every single person posted in a different country understands the risks of their post. The private security officers were former SEALs, they obviously understood the risks. It is terrible what happened, but is it really that surprising? No. The people who work in embassies understand they have a job to do and they willingly do it. The host country is supposed to guarantee their safety, but with governments changing right and left, it is a recipe for something bad to happen. The consideration should be to pull the embassies all together in those countries until they are stable.

Third, Obama. I have a hard time believing that every single person in the White House or not didn't know what was going on. But let's face it, with half the country ready to launch us into another war at a drop of a hat, he was wise to try to diffuse the situation and share the blame. The terrorists on 9/11/2001 won, people. They got a response and a holy war to point to for validation. Every time we respond with force against a terrorist attack, the holy war continues. It's not important what we think; it's important what they think. The only way to win is not to play! We (the rest of the world), need independence from their products (oil) and then leave them alone until they want to join the rest of the world. For that to happen, we need robust science and math education to foster new ideas and technology. We need money to switch to green industries. Stop wasting money fighting a never ending and pointless fight.

  • 11 votes
#3.17 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

In order to effectively deal with a problem, the first thing you need to do is accurately state what the problem is - not what you want it to be. This was clearly a case of terrorism by a relatively small number of violent, militant, fundamentalist Muslims.

This does not mean I think all Muslims are terrorists or Islam is a religion of violence and hatred. Quite the opposite - there are well over 1 Billion Muslims in the world - if they were all violent, militant extremists, the world would be a much bloodier place than it is today.

As Lieberman said in a recent interview, not acknowledging the problem is a relatively small, violent militant fringe is actually insulting to the vast majority of Muslims that are not trying to destroy Western civilization.

  • 7 votes
#3.18 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:59 AM EDT

red virginia - you seem to have been thoroughly rom-choippped. You ask the wrong questions and come up with the wrong answers. Deal with reality not with what your media presents as real. check out my ten signs you've been propagandized (above) and seee how they fit.

  • 3 votes
#3.19 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:01 AM EDT

If the Obama administration can't lay the blame on the film (i.e. someone else) then they have to confront the fact that (a) the US suffered another terrorist attack on Obama's watch, and (b) Muslims still hate us even with all the crap we've done to appease them. Hence, they blame the film, knowing their legions of faithful will believe and repeat anything they tell them. If you are still believing that Obama is doing a great job and is being honest with us, you are either living in complete denial or you just aren't very smart.

  • 23 votes
#3.20 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:03 AM EDT

Modern Wars only create jobs for a niche sector of the economy. If you already work for Haliburton, Blackwater, Lockheed, Colt, ect then you are going to get some overtime. The only reason WW2 stimulated the economy was the widespread use of manufacturing for the war effort due to the materiel required. We have no such need. War production has been put into the hands of a few. If anything all it has done is drain the economy by driving up oil prices.

Second, I think I'm inclined to agree with the Libyan President's assessment. The video was just an excuse. If you have a magic crystal ball and can predict terrorism then you should be working for Uncle Sam, otherwise, shut up. It's like the threat level or when Rummy used to come out and say "we don't where, or when, but something will happen" That's 9/11 in a nutshell. There are tons of Al-Queda fighters in Libya who came for the war. There have been several previous articles on the subject. It looks like the Libyans got more than they bargained for making their deal with the devil. It was planned co-ordinated terrorism. Mortars can strike from miles away, so even a whole battalion of lightly armed Marines is not going to be effective against them with out support. For that you need airstrikes. Escalating the situation would further provoke the local people. That's what the terrorists wanted. It's a @!$%#ty situation but playing cowboy would likely get everyone killed.

  • 5 votes
#3.21 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:14 AM EDT

"Libyan president to NBC: Anti-Islam film had 'nothing to do with' US Consulate attack"

------- But there is a link between the attacks and crazy-ass jihad mulims.

  • 6 votes
#3.22 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:16 AM EDT

Jen,

I'm not for responding with significant force (like Iraq or Afghanistan), but I do advocate a response that reduces the future threat of these types of attacks. For me, that means stepped up covert activities, infiltrating these groups, and convincing the Muslim world that we are not attacking their religion in general - only the extremist elements that will ultimately kill anyone (including Muslims) that do not believe in their exact interpretation of Islam.

As I said in my other post - in order to deal with a problem, one of the fist steps is to accurately state what the problem is. In this case, it's violent, militant, fundamentalist Muslims. It's not all, or even a large percentage of Muslims, and it's not a general "problem" with Islam.

  • 6 votes
#3.23 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:18 AM EDT

Totally agree, Randy. Every time we get involved, we make the situation worse for both ourselves and the local people. The blame has to ALWAYS fall to the radical terrorists, not to Obama, or any other president, and not to innocent Muslims trying to live their lives. Ultimately, the Muslim world has to decide that they've had enough of the radicals within their midsts and take action. They're going to need stable, democratic governments to do it, though, and I don't see that happening anytime soon...

  • 2 votes
#3.24 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:18 AM EDT

Ron, I don't disagree with you, but our covert operations has to be done with the full knowledge and blessing of the government in power. Imagine if Canada were infiltrating and killing off Americans on our soil... there would be war. NOT saying Canadians are doing that, before anyone goes beserk!! lol!

  • 2 votes
#3.25 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:22 AM EDT

Randy,

I agree that a full-scale military response is what the terrorists want, and something we should not provide. However, I don't understand why we even had anyone at this embassy on the 9/11 anniversary. My understanding is, this "embassy" is basically just a home in a neighborhood - and it wasn't defensible against any type of coordinated attack. Add to that, the comments from Libya that they told the US something was likely to happen on 9/11, and it seems the administration made some serious mistakes - both in Libya and in other ME countries.

Hopefully they've learned some hard lessons and will be better prepared for the next set of attacks.

  • 2 votes
#3.26 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:22 AM EDT

@Purnell Meagre Jr.

10 SIgns you've been propagandized :

Judging by some of your other posts I can only assume you speak from experience.

  • 9 votes
#3.27 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:29 AM EDT

The Middle East isn't ready for democracy. Egypt proved that the "nuts will run the Asylum" (Muslim Brotherhood) if they are given democracy. Afghanistan just shows how corrupt they are. The entire populations are not educated enough or too easily swayed by religious propanganda. That or the tribes run things. I hate to say it but a CIA planted moderate dictator may be the best thing for parts of the middle east. LOL

  • 4 votes
#3.28 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:35 AM EDT

If the Obama administration can't lay the blame on the film (i.e. someone else) then they have to confront the fact that (a) the US suffered another terrorist attack on Obama's watch, and (b) Muslims still hate us even with all the crap we've done to appease them.

B I N G O!!!!!!!

People need to know the truth about another scenario. The US was hit with a terrorist attack at the Ft. Hood base in Texas in 2009. Somehow Obama and his team were able to convince the media not to report it as such. The witnesses at the base said that the shooter said Allah is great right before he started to spray his bullets.

  • 19 votes
#3.29 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:41 AM EDT

Ron, One other thing, while I agree with you about assuring the everyday Muslim that we mean no harm, we have to be realistic, too. We just bombed the crap out of how many countries, killing and maiming countless innocent people. Again, consider that from our own angle... how willing would you be to listen to country who tells you they come in peace but just bombed and murdered innocent people?

I use an analogy with Westboro church... most people I know don't think if them as Christians, but they claim to be so it's a good comparison, but imagine if they did something like bomb a Saudi palace. The Saudis retaliate and bomb Washington for allowing such radicals to exist within their confines. How would we feel as Americans, possibly as Christians? I use this just as an analogy, but radicals exist everywhere, and you cannot control them. Would the Saudi King be responsible for our crazies? Are we responsible for our crazies? How would you feel about the Saudis who couldn't ascertain a difference between the majority and the radicals? Should they hold our country responsible for our radicals?

The problem with hate is that it multiplies. I just think everyone needs to stop and step back to think about ramifications of feeding into them.

  • 2 votes
#3.30 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

backcountryt - nope I am formed and informed by my experience. I plan to vote for President Obama because I am currrently receiving treatment for a cacncerous tumor and ROmney willl screw with everyone's health care. It's one promise I believe he reallly means. Secondly, I willl vote for Obama because he has managed to lead the country and the world through a very perilous time - avoiding a major war in the MIdddle East and keeeping Iran from gettting nuclear weapons. Seee - No rom chippping on me. Informed by experience. Alll real.

  • 2 votes
#3.31 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:43 AM EDT

The truth is not mutually exclusive as the right wing seem to be latching onto for attacks. More that one thing can be true at the same time.

Although the consulate attack is now confirmed as a premeditated attack, both protests because of the anniversary of 9/11 and reactions to the anti-Islam film trailer contributed to impromptu uprisings at the consulate and in many other places. The consulate was more of a perfect storm with all of them together.

The administration has consistently been dealing with terrorist attacks with the best intelligence we have. Bengazzi slipped through, but more Al Queida and terrorists have been killed through drone attacks and more interventions to disrupt terror networks occurred under the Obama administration than in the entire Bush administration. Check the numbers. Bush was obsessed with Iraq and not very much with Bin Laden or Al Queida. Obama took out Bin Laden, and the second in command, and many other high level Al Queida leaders. Responses to the terrorist attack are already in play and covert operations are not publicized.

The reactions to the film trailer are something that we, however, can address publicly. In the Arab world, the assumption is that no action like this by their citizens would be allowed to be released without the sanction of the government. We need to make them understand both that not only was the U.S. government not a party to this, but how our system of liberty prevents our form of government from censuring things it doesn't condone under free speech freedoms.

I see nothing inconsistent with the government making it known that although we don't condone the content and as a country respect all faiths, that individuals can speak on their own behalf under freedom of speech and disagree with the government stance, while we pursue the existing actions against terrorism that have been our foreign policy for the last decade.

Peace in that part of the world is elusive and very hard to work for, but that has always and rightly been our goal. The last thing we need now or at any time is a new President who is already on record that peace is not even an achievable goal. Governor Romney has told us more about what he has already given up on (on the middle east, the 47%, and the average working American) than what he believes is achievable other than through vague statements of jingoism and campaign sound bytes.

We know what Obama stands for and it's a foreign policy that other than this rash of recent outbursts, has had good success. Nobody, including his campaign or respected conservative pundits, can agree on where Romney stands on this or anything else other than just wanting the job. I know several dyed in the wool Republicans who had confided that they cannot in good conscience vote for Romney and don't know how they will vote (Stay home, Obama, or third party) for the presidential line.

  • 2 votes
#3.32 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

Jen,

I largely agree with your points. It's like I used to tell my conservative friends about Iraq when it was looking like a quagmire. If China took over the US to "help the people", even if the Chinese thought it was best for the average American, I would fight them as hard as I could until we forced them to leave. Their intent wouldn't matter to me - the only thing that would matter is to force the invading troops to leave my country. Every time an American died, it would just reinforce my resolve to force them out.

As to the use of force in the ME in general, that's why I advocate basically a black ops style approach with an emphasis on infiltration and taking out the leadership in the terrorist organizations. I would also continue to go after the money - if the terrorists have no money, they will not be very effective.

If they ever do anything brazen again like open training camps, I'm ok with taking those out as well. But, I don't think the current drone strategy is the best approach. Yes, it's gotten us some nice "trophy kills", but as you pointed out, it just creates a never ending cycle of violence.

  • 5 votes
#3.33 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

JASHN What you said might be true. But the difference between Obama and God is.... God doesn't think he is Obama.

  • 12 votes
#3.34 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:07 AM EDT

You guys talk like this is something important....like Obama should care about our embassy and the middle east. That's not what President Obama is about and you should know that by now. As he said himself on the View......"I am just eye candy". So what happens isn't important to him. How he looks while it happens is the important stuff.

  • 10 votes
#3.35 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:16 AM EDT

Here we have the President of Libya publicly stating that the video had nothing to do with the attacks and riots while Obama and his hand puppets keep lying that it did. In his speech at the U.N. yesterday Obama repeated over and over that it was the video. The man is a pathological liar. Why can't the voters see it? We are on the path to the New World Government, people, and you just refuse to admit it. Is this what you want? To live under Sharia law? To lose your freedom of speech? You should be very afraid. Take off your blinders. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

  • 13 votes
#3.36 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE!! So today we find out that the terrorists actually HATE the United States - - - You would THINK this was something our president would be aware of??

  • 15 votes
#3.37 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

I can't wait until this bumbling attention hog is jobless in November and roaming America begging for CHANGE!...maybe the crows on the View can give him a job

  • 13 votes
#3.38 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

If you want to see how LOW this country can really sink, you just vote for that that ole "Hope and Change" slogan again, or "Let's finish what we started America". A vote for Obama is a vote against America's safety, well being and recovery.

  • 13 votes
#3.39 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:35 AM EDT

As Lieberman said in a recent interview, not acknowledging the problem is a relatively small, violent militant fringe is actually insulting to the vast majority of Muslims that are not trying to destroy Western civilization.

Then that "vast majority of Muslims" needs to get off their apathetic asses and speak out against the terrorists in their midst. They didn't do this at 9/11, and they haven't done it in the years since. Until they do, there is absolutely no reason to believe that a "vast majority of Muslims" aren't silently condoning these acts of terror.

Why don't we see headlines for example like this: "Terrorist attack thwarted by Muslims Against Terrorist League" or some such thing? Where are the Muslims leaders rallying against terrorists supposedly making a mockery of their beloved religion? Because there isn't and they don't!

  • 9 votes
#3.40 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

@Purnell Meagre Jr.

backcountryt - nope I am formed and informed by my experience...

I willl vote for Obama because he has managed to lead the country and the world through a very perilous time - avoiding a major war in the MIdddle East and keeeping Iran from gettting nuclear weapons.

Avoiding major war? Keeping Iran from getting nucs? And you say you don't fall for the propaganda?? LOL! Perhaps you've somehow failed to notice that we stand on the precipice of BOTH of those things. Mostly as a result of Obama's foriegn policy "leadership".

Newsflash- that's not soda you're drinking.

  • 7 votes
#3.41 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

Mr. Obama is a typical politician and not the savior of the masses.. He lied because he and his staff were clueless.. We need to wake up and see that this is not a Dem. or Rep. issue, it is our entire stinking heap of elected officials and their greasy ways..Ordering security forces to carry only blanks?? What moron thought that up?? It is the Middle East $hit for brains and they run around shooting and bombing in the name of Allah 3 times a week..

  • 7 votes
#3.42 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:50 AM EDT
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Purnell Meagre Jr.

Thank you sir for the brilliant posting re: 10 signs of being propagandized- (post 3.8). Absolutely brilliant--and TOTALLY describes the mindset of the anti-Obama crowd (eerily spot on!)

Thank you!

  • 2 votes
#3.43 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

Tommy Lee: "If you want to see how LOW this country can really sink, you just vote for that that ole "Hope and Change" slogan again"

Nah! Let's vote for Romney and his "Despair and Stagnation" slogan instead, right?

  • 1 vote
#3.44 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

@Maxwell's Silver Hammer

Thank you sir for the brilliant posting re: 10 signs of being propagandized- (post 3.8). Absolutely brilliant--and TOTALLY describes the mindset of the anti-Obama crowd (eerily spot on!)

If you think that only describes the "anti-Obama" crowd you need to spend some time looking in a mirror because it seems to be a pretty good fit for you too. Those who believe Obama has done no wrong are just as brainwashed as those who believe he has done no good.

  • 9 votes
#3.45 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

Obama could walk on water and you would point and sneer, "See Obama can't swim!"

You should take your own advice and gaze into the mirror. Pot meet kettle!

Have you read the anti-Obama-ites? They're not voting FOR Romney--they're voting AGAINST Obama--and bragging about it to boot!

How's that Despair and Stagnation slogan working out for you?

  • 2 votes
#3.46 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

Maxwell

There is a difference between being a yellow dog like you and being informed and free thinking voters that, while not believing in everything they are hearing from Romney, are absolutely sure that the current situation, if extended, will lead to much worse.

Just cause you drank the kool-aid doesn't mean it is so!

  • 6 votes
#3.47 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

Obama could walk on water and you would point and sneer, "See Obama can't swim!"

Here's the problem......it seems the majority of his supporters believe he can walk on water. But his continued playing of the victim card doesn't impress me like it does some others. You can buy the "poor little helpless President who can't accomplish anything because of those mean old nasty Republicans" if you want.......but I ain't buying in this time.

I am sick of the blame game...everything is always the fault of somebody else. If Obama is really that weak and pathetic that he can't accomplish anything, even when he has a majority in the Senate and had two years of the House as well.....then he certainly doesn't deserve another 4 years.

  • 11 votes
#3.48 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

The Obama administration isn't lieing and they are not clueless. Obama is a narcissist who truly believes that because he is president that the Muslim extremists would not conduct a terrorist attack on a US interest during his presidency. To admit that these attacks had nothing to do with a film, would be to admit that Muslim extremist groups still hate the US even with Obama as president.

It is the very reason that Obama has not stated that it was a terrorist attack. Even on the taping of the View, he stated that it was still being investigated. Even in his address to the UN, he continues to blame the film even with evidence to the contrary. This was after his own spokesman, Jay Carney, had stated that it was self-evident that this was a terrrorist attack. Ambassador Rice is doing the best tap dancing she can with the worst music.

  • 9 votes
#3.49 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

@Maxwell's Silver Hammer

Obama could walk on water and you would point and sneer, "See Obama can't swim!"

I give credit to Obama for the few positive things he's done. It seems as though you would give him credit for walking on water if he stepped in a puddle.

Have you read the anti-Obama-ites? They're not voting FOR Romney--they're voting AGAINST Obama--and bragging about it to boot!

At least the idiots voting for Romney will be able to say that they weren't voting for someone who has a 4 year track record of failure. 4 more years of Obama and George Bush will start to look like George Washington by comparison. And let's be honest shall we? To suggest no one will vote AGAINST Romney rather than FOR Obama is ridiculous. There are just as many idiots on your side of the isle as on the other.

  • 8 votes
#3.50 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

Maxwell: Clearly Obama can't "walk on water" because he is sinking everything he is touching: economy, employment, foreign policy, and the middle class. No, he certainly can't walk on water. In fact we have been drowning due to his policies for nearly four years............

  • 10 votes
#3.52 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

In the past I thought Obama was sinister. I have evolved to realize Obama is just a simpleton in a nice suit. Obama is truly nothing but Chauncey Gardiner... and the media and liberal voters are too stupid to realize it. PLEASE google "Chauncey Gardiner" and watch a clip of the old Peter Seller movie "Being There" on YouTube. THIS is the man who our media elected as our President. SCARY!

  • 7 votes
#3.53 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

backcountry - refer to the ten signs and you'lll see one of them is a fear about things that haven't happpened and may never happpen - the world is always in a state of flux and because it is there is no such thing as perfect security. Can anyone promise Iran willl never have nukes? Welll, Romney can but it willl be just one more howler to rack up on his side of the ledger. Fact is, Obama has done what he could do sooothe the chaos that Bush created. THere didn't used to be global tension between the West and the world of Islam; I think we can thank Bush/CHeney for a good part of it.

    #3.54 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

    @ Maxwell's Silver Hammer

    That's just it Maxwell's Silver Hammer. I don't want to vote for Obama to see how much lower he can take the country. It's time for you all to admit, for the good of the country it's TIME FOR A NEW PRESIDENT. Maybe Romney won't be any better, if he's not Maxwell, he won't be getting my vote in 2016 either.

    • 7 votes
    #3.55 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

    Screamingforvengeance, there hadn't been an attack on Sept 11, since 2001, why would Obama, or anyone else in their right mind, think that there would be an attack this year and plan ahead for it, and somehow have guards everywhere at the same time?

    Man, get real. I wouldn't give a @!$%# if it's been 20 years. That date will always shine for these clowns. Always, for the rest of time. Like I said, that date is their Christmas now and they will always be looking to sock us in the mouth on that day.

    and somehow have guards everywhere at the same time?

    Hell yeah. Are you serious? Do you have any earthly idea just how many United States Marines there are? We could put 1000 of them in every Embassy in the world if we wanted to and it wouldn't effect the Marine Corp. one little bit. But heres a small clue. All we need is around 30.

    And hellllloooo! Allow them to be fully armed. Allow them the @!$%#ing right to defend our people by whatever means necessary.

    Sorry Buddy, but your man dropped the ball on this one and he's still not trying to pick it up. His Foreign Policy is a joke to anybody with any sense, because the simple fact is, nobody in the world takes him serious. He is clueless when it comes to this. Yeah, he clipped OBL and even his 2nd in command. And I give him props for that. But thats it. Thats all he's done and and it's all he'll ever do.....

    • 9 votes
    #3.56 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

    Purnell Jr.... Nail on the head. Thank you. jashn... You two should stop making sense, though. You're liable to confuse some of these folks.

    ir12... Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

    -usa1967... Is that the year you still live in? You're talking about a sitting President who, by the way, was elected by popular vote. Real patriot, aren't you?

    JoDepper..."Whenever you hear a man speak of his love for his country, it is a sign that he expects to be paid for it." H.L. Menken

    Vyor Derfa... "Many people consider the things which government does for them as social progress, but they consider the things government for others as socialism." Earl Warren

    "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." H.L. Menken

      #3.57 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

      Some full blown RWNJ's here today.  The disinformation coming out of your mouths is outright insane.

      One guy is still saying that the security folks weren't allowed to have ammo.  B.S.   I mean seriously, do ya'll get your information from chain emails or something? 

      Another guy is toeing the line that Muslims are 'keeping silent' about acts of terrorism.  More B.S.  Google it if you want.  Even the Muslim motherf*cking Brotherhood has made numerous statements against terrorism and the use of violence.    

      Hell, there were even recent large protests throughout Libya in support of the US denouncing the raid on the consulate.  Do you seriously expect to hear anything about Muslims speaking out against terrorism from RW pundits and propagandists you must be listening to?  Hell no, it wouldn't fit their narrative.

      

      His Foreign Policy is a joke to anybody with any sense, because the simple fact is, nobody in the world takes him serious. He is clueless when it comes to this. Yeah, he clipped OBL and even his 2nd in command. And I give him props for that. But thats it. Thats all he's done and and it's all he'll ever do.....

      What exactly would you have suggested that the US do in regard to the popular uprisings in Libya and Egypt?

      Because as far as I see, you have 3 options. 1. Assist the Regime 2. Do nothing 3. Assist the Rebels

      1. Doing number 1 would fulfill the anti-american narrative that the US is not interested in spreading democracy; but is actually only interested in propping up puppet dictators for oil. That narrative does indeed have a lot of historical support - but it totally undermines what the US's narrative is regarding our current involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. So - assisting the regime would fundamentally undermine the US mission in Iraq and Afghanistan.

      2. Do nothing - this would guarantee a long, proctracted period of strife in oil exporting Libya and Suez Canal controlling Egypt. This is bad for the oil market.... and VERY bad if a long period of strife results in another blockage in the Suez .

      3. Assist the rebels - although the potential of a theocratic and potentially anti-American government is high.... it would fulfill US narrative of 'democratic support', build ties and influence within the new regime, and bring a quick end to the economically harmful effects of rebellion.

        #3.58 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:58 PM EDT
        Reply

        How did they know the location of the safe house?

        Is it true that the White House was warned of the attacks 48 hrs. prior?

        Why were there no bullets in the "security" guns?

        Why did it take so long to respond?

        Why weren't the Marines brought in?

        Why can't we protect our own people and our land (embassy)?

        Why would anyone vote for Obama?

        • 75 votes
        Reply#4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:10 AM EDT

        I believe Mr Obama & his Administration owe the American people an honest answer of what really transpired/occurred in Libya on 11 September, Benghazi in particular. A full accounting will allow the people to understand facts rather than rumor or "this is the most current information I was told to say..." ala Jay Carney, Administration spokesperson.

        The Ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice looked and sounded foolish by telling the "party line" after the President of Libya has said, in no uncertain terms, that the video was not the cause for what happened to Ambassador Stevens and the 5 persons killed (3 aides + 2 Marines).

        The answers should not be construed for "damage control" just because we are approximately 40 days from the presidential election. Give us the true factual information and let the voters make the decision.

        • 29 votes
        #4.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:30 AM EDT

        Jack from jax,,,,,the truth? I really believe that he has forgotten what the truth is..and if he tried to tell the American people what and why it happened, I would have serious doubts about its authenticity

        • 29 votes
        #4.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:48 AM EDT

        Thanks Stan

        However, the truth allows responsible people to make a decision. The types of "accounts" we have heard from administration talking heads and mass media makes me think the people in power do not want the American people to think for themselves - a popular advertisement on either ABC or NBC TV is an anchor saying "... our job is to get the news and interpret it for you so you can understand it...".

        That quote leaves me great reason for concern.

        • 23 votes
        #4.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:02 AM EDT

        Drones buzz and circle. Hot wax from candles to the Obama messiah burn nimble fingers and then vote.

        Idiots who have no belief in free speech do not deserve it OR to live in the greatest country the world has ever known.

        I'm not voting for Mitt, I'm voting AGAINST Obama and this recklessness as well as voting for a media that will not caudal a president and ask hard questions which ONLY happens when it is a republican.

        • 25 votes
        #4.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:17 AM EDT

        "this is the most current information I was told to say..." ala Jay Carney, Administration spokesperson.

        That says it all right there. They knew this was going to happen, if the current administration will let this happen to one of our ambassadors then what do you think they would let happen to an everyday average citizen?

        Obama needs to be impeached and put on trial for murder! a

        ROMNEY/RYAN 2012-2016

        • 13 votes
        #4.5 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:36 AM EDT

        Unfortunately the only way to vote AGAINST someone is to vote for the other candidate. I really wish we had more to choose from. I myself like Ron Paul's views but only a small fraction of the American public actually understand the scope of things. Most vote because of race, sexual orientation or something stupid that has nothing to do with the real important issues America faces now. (economy, deficit, etc)

        Obama has no idea what he is doing. He thinks his eloquent words can smooth things over but he is learning that it doesn't work all the time. Transparency? Isn't that what he said 4 years ago?

        • 17 votes
        #4.6 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:39 AM EDT

        Once again the cons mistake the sizzle for the steak. WHat you call the atttack is reallly not that important - it's the act that is significant. That is a problem that reallly started to get serious during Bush/CHeney when the administration started substituting bluster for actiona and results "The SUrge " Iraqi Freeedom" WMDs!!!!!!!!!They suceeeded in simultaneously removing all meaning from words and making words more important than deeeds (Misssion axcccomplished!Obama has kept a lid on thing during his time in offfice - no nu8clear IRan, no major wars startted. give thanks for our President.

        • 1 vote
        #4.7 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

        Hope,

        It would take hours of tactical training to show you how the Embassy in Libya was likely indefensible. As to why the guards were not "armed", likely because it would lead to escalation of hostilities. It's basically a couple of houses in a neighborhood. It isn't the movies or the wild wild west. Bullets go through walls, mortars level buildings, things burn. You can't fight a whole country from a small building and that's what would happen if things got out of hand. Al-queda would claims we were shooting at innocent civillians or some other BS. It's not a smart thing to do in a country where everyone just fought a civil war and are fairly well armed. It would be worse than Somalia in 1991 if Marines were brought in to do anything other than get people the hell out. They knew the location of the "safe" house because as many other articles have pointed out it's a small unfortified building that foreigners were seen constantly leaving. Not hard to track foreigners in Libya, it's like finding an Albino at the Apollo, you will notice. Until I see some proof that the Administration had concrete proof of an attack and not just intel on demonstrations then I'll be convinced. It's still not as bad a @!$%# up as Bush and Condi both being told by the CIA that 9/11 was coming as early as April 2001 if it is true. And as far as not voting for Romney.....he's a wall street boob, a puppet who will dance to whoever has the largest cheque book. I could list all the things Obama has done but you are likely too ignorant, racist and full of hate to acknowledge it.

        • 1 vote
        #4.8 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:54 AM EDT

        Here is a transcript of the president's remarks on the attack in Libya. Please note that it contains no apology, nor does it place the blame on a film or other form of free expression.

        http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya

        • 3 votes
        #4.9 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

        They would have to be extremley stupid, our just a looser..

        • 2 votes
        #4.10 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:37 AM EDT

        Jack from Jax...this just makes it 2 9/11's that the public don't get the truth about.

        • 2 votes
        #4.11 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:13 AM EDT

        sleepinsadie

        you are correct. I don't care what party administration is in power. Pearl Harbor, Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis, Gulf of Tonkin, Desert Storm, 9/11 I or 9/11 II, Enduring Freedom. If it affects American lives, we deserve the truth, after all isn't it government of the people; for the people and by the people?

        • 4 votes
        #4.12 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

        @jackfromjax: I also believe the American people deserve the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. However, as long as we have the liberal media telling us what to think, we won't get the truth. Personally, I think everyone should start boycotting NBC, MSN, ABC, and the entire group of liberal media until they get the message that we don't need them to tell us what to think. Just give us the facts and we'll make up our own mind. Watching only PBS on TV and reading Realclearpolitics.com would be a good start.

        • 6 votes
        #4.13 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

        who else can you vote for mitt the dim witt ?bugs bunny is about all we got that makes any sense any more we could also call bush back in but then we would really be fuc-ed

          #4.14 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:58 PM EDT
          Reply

          Why would anyone vote for Obama?

          That's the question I ask myself and others' everyday.

          Can't get a straight answer from the others'.

          Stupid loves Stupid

          • 43 votes
          Reply#5 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:14 AM EDT

          "Stupid is as stupid does." My favorite line from "Forest Gump?"

          • 21 votes
          #5.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:30 AM EDT

          Howard Stern answered that question for you. The people that are going to vote for Obama think he chose Paul Ryan as his running mate because he's black. What does that tell you?

          • 23 votes
          #5.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:04 AM EDT

          Texas Lady, you think that's bad? Watch this for some entertainment. Goes to show you why he got elected. As someone above said: CLUELESS

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I

          • 14 votes
          #5.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:16 AM EDT

          I would recommend voting for Obama because hes gonna get us nuked and it will be blue states that take the brunt of it.

          • 5 votes
          #5.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:42 AM EDT

          Wow so many Rovian Trolls on here today...are you all getting paid? Never seen such trash!!!! Whose watching your bridges? OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!!!!!!!

          • 5 votes
          #5.5 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:14 AM EDT

          Why would anyone vote for Obama? Let's start of with our pockets. My taxes are the lowest they've ever been. My 401K and retirement were getting killed before he took office. (I suspect if any of you examined yours you would make the same claim and have been making money since.) Every time you turn on the television another terrorist leader has been found and killed. I mean hell, have you taken a look at what Romney and Ryan have earned under the administration? (LOL)

          • 4 votes
          #5.6 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:18 AM EDT

          You made zero sense in your idiodic post...

          • 7 votes
          #5.7 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

          Whassa matter, former repub? Are you embarrassed because they showed you on the video clip I posted?

          • 5 votes
          #5.8 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:25 AM EDT

          Mr.Steady,

          Thanks for the link above, great info. I would love for all Obamanots to see just how clueless they were when they voted for him. It goes to show just how influential the media is in forming peoples opinions based on lies, propaganda and rumors to discredit honest people from the truth. And also shows just how dumb the majority of people in this country are because of the so called "Entertainment" industry. Most people have been dumbed down to the extreme because of Hollywood.

          • 14 votes
          #5.9 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:36 AM EDT

          Let's give the President a break......... he's been too busy on Letterman and The View to have been briefed on what really happened.

          • 22 votes
          #5.10 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:38 AM EDT

          Breaking News: President Obama will make a formal statement regarding the multiple embassy attacks live on M-TV with our nationally respected political correspondent, Snooki.

          • 12 votes
          #5.11 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

          former repub-537850

          You don't lend one piece of worth into the conversation, so you can take your trashy behind on outta here.. Considering, you are the troll coming in and making a stupid remark an leaving.. That's "trolling" troll!

          GOP-503710

          I also have 401K and although not retired, they "whack" me in taxes and I have exemptions.. Almost a third of my paycheck every week.. So, I'm guessing your financial circumstances might explain more how that came to be.. For us, the "working poor", our situation isn't so swell under the current conditions.. To be honest, they were better under Bush, money-wise that is..

          • 13 votes
          #5.12 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

          Patriotmark, you are welcome. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad and pathetic that people voted for him based on some kind of delusion.

          • 4 votes
          #5.13 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:27 AM EDT
          Reply

          Exactly whose side is Obama on?? In response to the consulate attack, the president said, "The United States is a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others."

          On Saturday, a Pakistani government minister announced a $100,000 bounty for the killing of an American citizen. In response to that, though, Obama is completely silent. The longer he dithers, the worse it looks for US commitment to our individual liberties.

          It's been four days now. What is he waiting for? Is he hoping that if he ignores it long enough, people will just forget? By ignoring it, Obama is saying to the world that "Oh, we don't really believe in free speech - that's just part of our silly Constitution. We are much more concerned about Muslim paranoia."

          We desperately need a President, like Mitt Romney, who has a clear idea of what this country stands for, and is willing to express it. Romney would never have let this much time go by without responding to a death threat against any US citizen. Obama is a coward!

          Romney would have made a simple and powerful statement at the UN, like "A founding principle of the United States is that our citizens have the right to express themselves, even if their message is offensive. When one of our citizens is threatened by an official of a foreign power, our country is threatened. We will not condone such a threat!" Obama would rather just ignore the whole thing.

          • 46 votes
          Reply#6 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:17 AM EDT

          Exactly whose side is Obama on??

          Well, that depends. Are you Muslim?

          • 24 votes
          #6.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:42 AM EDT
          Comment author avatarted patrickExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          We are so screwed if we kick obama out then we get Romney who will dismantle this country peice by peice and sell it to the highest bidder.

          • 4 votes
          #6.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:00 AM EDT

          Ted...this country has been sold out by Obama, and its was not to the highest bidder, it was to the ME

          • 14 votes
          #6.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:50 AM EDT

          Obama in his second term (if that happens)will become a complete dictatorsenate, then talk and wish that you had romney.

          • 25 votes
          #6.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:53 AM EDT

          Obama will spare us the agony and give it away in one piece.

          • 11 votes
          #6.5 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:40 AM EDT

          Well,

          Finally a government that speaks truthfully! Perhaps this guy should run for office in America. A rare form of integrity which doesn't exist in our government, telling the truth.

          • 16 votes
          #6.6 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:47 AM EDT

          Ted, glad to see you have an open mind,,,Obama has saved the country...hahahahahah Romney will destroy it...I ask you name one thing that isn't falsly inflated as a positive fthat Obama has done for this counrty!!

          • 11 votes
          #6.7 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:21 AM EDT
          Reply

          "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable
          of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far
          easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the
          necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to
          have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more
          serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the
          prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools
          that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less
          likely to survive a multitude of Idiots such as those who made him their
          president."

          • 59 votes
          Reply#7 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:23 AM EDT

          Wow! That was a truly brilliant and eloquent statement. You have quotes around it. Who said it?

          • 20 votes
          #7.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:54 AM EDT

          I wish I could give more than one "thumbs up" for your post. We are truly in desperate times, and your post accurately addresses it.

          • 26 votes
          #7.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:31 AM EDT

          mamawati,

          Best post I have ever read on here. Truer words were never spoken!! We have become a nation of idiots who worship and idolize the boob tube and have been dumbed down for decades now.

          • 11 votes
          #7.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:43 AM EDT

          Great post.. Very well written.. I wish some of the elected officials had a writer such as this so they don't sound like morons when they speak!

          • 10 votes
          #7.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:00 AM EDT

          MAMAWATI - that is the most brilliant observation I have seen on these posts in a long time.

          Remember this famous exchange: A lady [Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia] asked Dr. [Benjamin] Franklin - Well, Doctor. What have we got, a Republic or a Monarchy?. A Republic, replied the Doctor, if you can keep it.

          With President OStupid leading a nation of those that are too lazy to be anything other than Stupid, I doubt we can keep our Republic.

          Wake up silent majority and let your voice be heard or you will be overrun by the Stupid.

          • 8 votes
          #7.5 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:14 AM EDT

          OMG.... Best post ever!! There are a lot of dumb people in Dumboma's Army...Lmao

          • 6 votes
          #7.7 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:40 AM EDT

          Good Post MAMA...if Obama is elected again all Bubba's campaiging for Obama will be in vain. There will not be a free America to be president of and Hilliary will be thrown under the bus by Obama and the Democrats.

          BTW Lover2...the first dog and handler also take a separate jet on vacations...proof in pictures.

          This is the MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF YOUR LIFETIME! VOTE AND TAKE YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS TO THE POLLS! This IS YOUR freedom we are talking about and it is serious!

          • 7 votes
          #7.8 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

          Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly understand them.

          MAMAWATI's quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in the Prague newspaper attributed to Prager Zeitungon.

          This from a person that does not have a dog in this fight in America. Other countries, who are not blasted by American media, see things much more clearly than many of Americans do apparently. If they can figure out what is going on then we in America should too.

          Some of the "man on the street" interviews referenced in this thread really have me questioning how many citizens in this country invest the time to get properly educated on the most critical issues in the most critical elections of our lifetime and how many are just lazy "Sheeple" being led blindly to the slaughter.

          • 6 votes
          #7.9 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:20 AM EDT
          Reply

          Do you mean that President Obama's speech in Cairo, at the beginning of his term, and his receipt of the Nobel Peace prize did not make the Muslims love the U.S.? Our ambassador to Libya died because the U.S. bruised the religious feelings of Muslims in a video that they have not seen? It was purely accidental that these riots occurred on 9/11? Is U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice stuck in stupid? Our Ambassador to Libya died because the Muslims thought that our nation is not a nation "that respects all faiths?" Do the Muslims love us because we respect all faiths? I wonder how many misguided individuals are continuing "efforts . . . to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims." Is Saudia Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Libya and Afghanistan countries that respect all faiths and allow them the freedom to build their houses of worship and practice their faith in peace? Name a Muslim Country that allows gays to openly exist and women to be free from female circumcision and honor killings? How many Muslim countries in the Middle East and Northern Africa have Jews left in them and how many Jews now as compared to the number of Jews in 1947? What Muslim countries allowed Jews to immigrate to Israel and take their assets with them? Of the approximate one million Jews who have left the middle east and north Africa since 1948, how many want to return "home?"

          • 21 votes
          Reply#8 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:23 AM EDT

          Clowns-r-"US", right Jay Carney? How does it feel working for the clueless and incompetent that expected you to trot out so as to cover the exposed area's of their posteriors - especially when the incompetence kills someone? I've never found crow to taste especially good..... more like $hit really with never enough ketchup in the cupboard to mask the taste.

          The whole Administration is like a pack of salesmen. if their lips are moving............

          Step up and have a little pride puppy dog "Jay" and resign!

          Spin it however you want, but could it be that Romney actually comes out of this looking the most Presidential? Maybe he was clued in at a security briefing or really is "the most intellegent man in the room" and figured it out on his OWN like 99% of the thinking "US" population?

          Feeling just a little sarcastic tonight. Can you tell?

          • 24 votes
          Reply#9 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:28 AM EDT

          Jay stays because he makes $182,000.00 a year and his 4 assisstants make $142,000.00 a year.

          BTW Obama has only made 39% of the security briefings...until the media pointed it out to the whole world and now he goes every day.

          • 9 votes
          #9.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:00 AM EDT
          Reply

          So it basically takes the president of Libya speaking directly with NBC for them to finally run a headline about the attack NOT being about some retarded video? Let me guess, Obama tell you folks it was ok now?

          • 29 votes
          Reply#10 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:30 AM EDT

          Libyan president to NBC: Anti-Islam film had 'nothing to do with' US Consulate attack

          An interim Libyan President appears smarter than Obama. Probably not lying just makes it seem that way.

          • 21 votes
          Reply#11 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:38 AM EDT

          A pig slopping through the mud is smarter than Blowbama...oh, wait. It is the same thing. Never mind...

          • 13 votes
          #11.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:05 AM EDT

          please don't insult the pigs of the world.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7WjrvG1GMk

          that is one smart pig. we love that pig!

          • 5 votes
          #11.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:06 AM EDT

          When I read the article caption I was like "duuuuuh".. OBVIOUSLY the attacks were pre-planned.. EVERY American can figure that out.. Obviously, and hopefully no one thinks it's a coincidence that they killed MORE Americans on 9/11.. This was an attack on the U.S. Intentionally, on one of the most tragic days our Country has endured.. It's not like we needed affirmation, we already KNEW they pre-planned the attack.. For the Administration to try and "sweet-coat" the truth and call it coincidence is appauling.. The fact that it apologized to the murderers for OUR COUNTRIES freedom of speech is unforgivable.. In my opinion..

          • 7 votes
          #11.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:10 AM EDT

          A string of derails and attacks from Jim-1963167 deleted - you're suspended for a month for violating #1 and #5 of the Code of Honor. Repeatedly. Just a terrible display.

          Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

          • 2 votes
          #11.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:18 PM EDT
          Reply

          Someone has dropped that ball and Mr. Obama you are the one who are been doing all the talking so we, the USA citizens are going to lay the blame at your feet. Mr. Obama you got up here and said that all this was because of some tape and then we find out that it is Really not a movie but a "trailer" for a movie all of minitues and that it has been out for over 4 months on youtube ?? You are suppose to have the Best of Best working for you. Either you don't know what you are talking about or you need to hire better Administrative Crew.

          • 20 votes
          Reply#15 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:14 AM EDT

          Obama laid the blame on the movie trailer in his UN speech yesterday. Obama's lies are deliberate and well planned to deceive the American people. The President of Libya tells us the TRUTH and the President of the US lies to us. SO who is the real enemy of the American people?

          Obama blatantly steals $714,000,000,000.00 from Medicare. Sets up a panel which will steal another $100,000 000,000.00 and limit treatment for persons 80 years old. Raise retirement age to 70-80 yrs and tells the American people that it's the GOP who wants to throw Granny off a cliff, when in truth Granny has been dead under Obamacare for 10 years. She died because Obama's panel said she was, too, old to receive care.

          Think about paying into Social Security for 50-60 years and not being allowed to retire until 70-80 years of age. You might live 2-5 yrs wherein you'd receive retirement. You die and the Government gets to keep all the dollars you invested into the retirement. If you invested in an IRA, your family would get your holdings at your death, but the Government gets your Social Security investments.

          Where in the Constitution does it say that the President can steal citizens' investments in Medicare to give to something else? It doesn't, but the Despot pretending to be President ignores the Laws of the Land. He creates new Lies to explain his lawlessness. Who is it that comes to steal, lie and destroy? The devil? No, it's Obama...Maybe they are one and the same.

          • 14 votes
          #15.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:00 AM EDT

          Very well said..

          • 2 votes
          #15.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:42 AM EDT

          "Corporations are people." The U.S. Supreme Court

          "Corporations are people, my friend." Willard "Mitt" Romney

          "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."-Benito Mussolini

          Watch what you wish for.

          "Nationalism is a silly cock crowing on his own dunghill." Richard Aldington

          "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw

          "When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth, they will either cease being mistaken or cease being honest." Unknown

            #15.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:40 PM EDT
            Reply

            Why do I feel like this administration thinks of the US citizen as incapable of logic and reason? It seems like their standard operating procedures for any major event is equivalent to "you want the truth, you can't handle the truth".

            I hope the media finally asks Jay Carney and this administration some really tough questions because either the POTUS was misleading and still is claiming the video is the cause (as he did in the UN speech) or the president of Libya is lying.

            Calling the new interim president of Libya a liar is no way to start off a good foreign relationship with a young, developing, hopefully democratic country. Their stories of what happened should be exactly the same. What would the president of Libya gain by saying what he says...that he had no control over the situation and it was terrorism other than just telling the truth because he needs help to combat terrorism where you cannot really take action on some spontaneous demonstration from a video that suddenly turns violent.

            It just doesn't make sense...the POTUS says one thing today, the president of Libya says another...and somehow what the president of Libya says makes more sense. Unfortunately, these events suggest that there is a credibility problem in the White House.

            How is it an OK thing to mislead the American people?

            • 21 votes
            Reply#16 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:15 AM EDT

            JRS There has been a creibility problem in the white house for a long long time.

            • 11 votes
            #16.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:15 AM EDT

            since obam took office.

            • 9 votes
            #16.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:12 AM EDT

            Yeah, bush/cheney were real credible,lol.

            • 1 vote
            #16.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:27 AM EDT

            Hank, they'be been out of Office for four years.. Has the WHite House become any more credible?? The answer you're looking for is NO.. No, it hasn't..

            • 7 votes
            #16.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:14 AM EDT
            Reply

            Just wondering when we will see this on the evening News... NOT... It is so Bias I enjoy watch the commercials more then the station.

            As a matter of fact, I am even suprised that it was Posted here. Maybe they are starting to change , just like Rats jumping off a sinking ship.

            Did anyone read the Post from Bill Clinton? I would sugest it's reading, it seems he is strating to change his mind also. He was saying things were true which obama 's team had said they were not.

            Houston, We Have a Problem (The Dem-o-Rats that is)

            • 15 votes
            Reply#17 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:17 AM EDT
            Comment author avatarJim-1963167Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Lmao pukes know obama wins and its killing em

            • 5 votes
            Reply#18 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:19 AM EDT

            Folks Please Ignore Poor Little Jimmy It Is Just Another Nasty Little DemocRATic Troll Out Spewing Its Nonsense Just For Giggles!

            Think About It....What Kind Of Normal Person Thinks Or Spews Nastiness Like It Does?

            Never Any REAL CONTENT Only Nasty Little Kiddy Insults?

            Hahahaha As If Its Nasty Words Actually Mean Something......Though It Does Seem Like The Obomination Attracts This Kind Of Poster More Than Normal!

            Hmmm I Can't Imagine Why?

            • 12 votes
            #18.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:21 AM EDT

            MUW

            Do you play Kingdom Age?

            Just wondering.

              #18.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:21 AM EDT

              Sorry Abby.....I Don't Play Games....I Post Facts With Supporting Links!

              So Do You Play Games?

              • 4 votes
              #18.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:33 AM EDT

              Sorry Abby.....I Don't Play Games....I Post Facts With Supporting Links!

              Please don't yell at me.

              I was only asking, because there's somebody with the same moniker on Kingdom Age.

              If it was indeed you, I would've asked for an alliance.

              So Do You Play Games?

              Yes I do.

              Life is too short to be serious all the time.

              • 2 votes
              #18.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:48 AM EDT

              Sorry Abby I Am Not Yelling At You I Post With Bold Normally.....It Annoys The Trolls And Allows My Post To Stand Out A Little More Through The Spew!

              I Don't Have A Clue Who Your MUW Might Be.....I'm The Only MUW I Know! ;>)

              Psst I Used To Love Computer Games.....They Ended Up Being Too Addictive....Now I Fight For My Children's & Grand Children's Freedom In The Blogs And On The Vines! You Might Have Noticed I Get It From Both Sides Because I Know.....There Is No Difference Between A Democrat Or Republican Partisan!

              They Both Work For The Same Wall Street Oligarchs!

              • 6 votes
              #18.5 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:56 AM EDT

              I'm an Aussie, so I try not to get too involved in US politics.

              It's not easy though.

              lol

              FR sent.

              :)

              • 4 votes
              #18.6 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:14 AM EDT

              Jim: in your own mind and no others.

              • 4 votes
              #18.7 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:14 AM EDT

              Well Abby I Must Say It Is Too Bad Your Deputy PM Wasn't As Enlighten As You A Couple Of Days Ago......

              Still These Partisans Do Get Nasty And What Is Really Sad Is It Doesn't Matter One Bit Who Actually Wins This Election.

              The American People Will Loose....And Wall Street Will Win..... Once Again!

              • 6 votes
              #18.8 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:23 AM EDT

              Well Abby I Must Say It Is Too Bad Your Deputy PM Wasn't As Enlighten As You A Couple Of Days Ago......

              I'll take that as a compliment, luvvy.

              :)

              • 3 votes
              #18.9 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:05 AM EDT

              Jim-1963167... Your post are "mysteriously" collapsing. Stop making sense! "When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth, they will either cease being mistaken or cease being honest." Unknown

              P.S. Don't wrestle with pigs. Everybody gets dirty and the pig loves it.

                #18.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:48 PM EDT
                Reply
                Comment author avatarWillie-359171Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                The anti-Islam film that sparked violent protests in many countries had everything
                to do with the deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi earlier this
                month. This media report is not telling through, again, to cover-up the real
                truth and the group that’s behind it all.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#19 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:23 AM EDT

                Willie-359171

                And your source is??????

                • 6 votes
                #19.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:35 AM EDT

                Pure bullsh-t!

                • 3 votes
                #19.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:40 AM EDT

                Willie, did you and Jim actually read the Libyan President's statement or is comprehension a problem for you both. Here try to read, understand and get your head out of the Appeaser in Chief's rear.

                In an exclusive interview with NBC News' Ann Curry, President Mohamed Magarief discounted claims that the attack was in response to a movie produced in California and available on YouTube. He noted that the assault happened on Sept. 11 and that the video had been available for months before that.

                "Reaction should have been, if it was genuine, should have been six months earlier. So it was postponed until the 11th of September," he said. "They chose this date, 11th of September to carry a certain message."

                • 5 votes
                #19.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:22 AM EDT

                that is just more of Nobama's Cool Aide

                • 5 votes
                #19.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:22 AM EDT
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                The Romney crowd the 47% is getting more and more desperate! LOL

                • 9 votes
                Reply#20 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:24 AM EDT

                HUH?

                • 5 votes
                #20.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:58 AM EDT

                Its not Romney and his "crowd" who are doing what Obama's doing. Its all on him now and even his beloved sheeple are starting to wake up!

                • 6 votes
                #20.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:57 AM EDT

                ..not 47........it's 51 % now

                • 2 votes
                #20.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:24 AM EDT

                Not desperate, just more resolved. It is time for Obama to go! That must be why his finance person is trying to buy them a home in HI. Good place for him!

                • 3 votes
                #20.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:14 AM EDT
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                Waste of reading time! Such vitriol and hatred. What a shame! :-(

                • 2 votes
                Reply#21 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:26 AM EDT

                The liberal stance

                If you post truth...it is hatred

                If you critisize obama you are a racist

                if you bring up Romney, they point to bush

                if you read the press...it is all very rosey

                if you vote for obama ..you're just fine....an idiot..but just fine

                • 13 votes
                #21.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:29 AM EDT

                And, if you vote for him a 2nd time, your a fool!

                • 8 votes
                #21.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:17 AM EDT
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                Comment author avatarJim-1963167Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Your RepubliCON War hero lol he should have been HUNG!

                According to the translator, McCain made an “accommodation” with his captors, and, in exchange, the translator’s father saw to it that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes. Upon returning to his prison cell, he would say he had been held in solitary confinement.

                “That may be why so many of his fellow prisoners said later they saw so little of him at Hoa Loa Prison,” Wheeler suggested.

                The interrogations themselves were conducted and translated by Vietnamese who spoke some English. After each interrogation session, which for many prisoners included torture, the Vietnamese interrogator would write a report of the session in Vietnamese, according to Wheeler.

                “These reports had to be translated into Russian,” he says, “and the bright teenager living in the compound in Hanoi had become fluent in Vietnamese, and ended up translating may of the reports and interrogators’ notes.”

                He says the translator’s records still exist and are held by the CIA, and this is how life-long CIA asset Bill Clinton learned of them.

                “The release of such evidence would destroy McCain. The threat of its release could force McCain to take a fall, blow the election and lose on purpose,” Wheeler said

                The small group of senators and congressmen who have been briefed on this have been unable to confirm with the CIA any details of its document swap with the GRU beyond an admission that such a swap “may have happened.” They are nervous about pursuing the matter any further.

                Meanwhile, the Clintons are not nervous. “They are utterly ruthless, and have buddies at Langley all to happy to help them,” says Wheeler

                Dennis Johnson, a graduate of Officer Candidate School, was brought into Hanoi with a broken leg that was never treated. He saw McCain only a few times but heard much about his clean clothes, being showered and clean-shaven and always with a few NVA officers during his stint at the “Hilton.”

                “He received special treatment and was sent to the hospital days after he arrived because he agreed to cooperate, and yes, he did give radio broadcasts for the NVA, not only to North Vietnam but broadcast over the camp speakers,” Johnson said. “None of the other prisoners wanted anything to do with him because of these issues. It makes me sick to hear him called a war hero. He was worse than Fonda, for she was just an idiot, but McCain was supposed to be one of us.”

                McCain was kept at the Hanoi Hilton from December 1969 until his release, along with all the remaining POWs, in March of 1973. During this time, the young teenager translated all the Vietnamese interrogators’ notes and reports regarding McCain.

                In November of 1991, when Tracy Usry, the former chief investigator for the minority staff of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, testified before the Select Committee, he said the Soviets interrogated U.S. prisoners of war in Vietnam. McCain, incensed, rudely interrupted Usry several times, yelling that “none of the returned U.S. POWs released by Vietnam was ever interrogated by the Soviets.” However, the evidence shows that McCain was lying and had first-hand knowledge that the charge was true, unless he had been programmed to forget it. If this were the case, he can honestly wear the title of “Manchurian Candidate” bestowed upon him by other POWs.

                Col. Bui Tin, a former senior colonel in the North Vietnamese army, testified, after Usry, that because of his high position in the Communist Party during the war, he had the authority to read all documents and secret telegrams from the politburo pertaining to American prisoners of war. He said that not only did the Soviets interrogate some American prisoners of war, but that they treated the Americans very badly.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#22 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:34 AM EDT

                Jim I am a democrat but I find this hard to believe.

                • 4 votes
                #22.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:23 AM EDT

                Jim,

                I believe your statements to accurate and true. I have known about this for years. My information came directly to me from one of the POW's who was with Mc Cain during that time and is now deceased, I never could say anything...

                Thanks for the post and the re-affirmation, and I am not a demoncrat....

                PS... He couldn't stand John McCain and my friend was spent 6 years...

                • 1 vote
                #22.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

                There isn't enough profanity in this language to tell you what a piece of crap you are...

                If you want some relevant information about the biggest problem facing America, go to www.discoverthenetworks.org and read the profile of Obama's life...

                • 1 vote
                #22.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:23 AM EDT

                Jim,......BLa,Bla,Bla,Bla

                • 2 votes
                #22.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:25 AM EDT

                ...........more of Nobama's BS

                • 3 votes
                #22.5 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:26 AM EDT

                I guess jim figured out that bush isn't running against obama...this is progress for a liberal.

                now someone needs to tell him that McCain isn't running either

                • 5 votes
                #22.6 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:34 AM EDT

                Quite possibly the worst example of internet trolling I've ever seen. It's not even well written.

                • 3 votes
                #22.7 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:35 AM EDT
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                Jim-1963167

                You seem to be a day (well Four (4) years) Late.

                McCain was last election.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#23 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:37 AM EDT
                Comment author avatarJim-1963167Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Really wow was just making a point that they can bash Kerry but the Cons have their own skeltons also!

                • 3 votes
                #23.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:43 AM EDT

                It's okay Jim, Obama who can't run on his record with failed promises and a disastrous Middle East policy will be proud of you as one of his obedient drones.

                • 9 votes
                #23.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:32 AM EDT
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                This guy is a liar because his story differs from Obamas, wait maybe he is not and that would mean. Oops inside thought. I guess a picture is worth a thousand words and Obama and his minions have used them all. I would also like to point out for the liberal masses not everyone went to Vietnam and just because Romney did not, who cares, I did not hear you crying about it when Clinton deferred by going to school. In fact I believe all you liberal wing nuts were highly praising of the fact. Maybe one day you all will look back and feel sorry for your lack of foresight but I doubt it.

                • 15 votes
                Reply#24 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:38 AM EDT

                There is no safe place, and I know they chose to be in a less safe place with a clear understanding of their own potential value and hazard. I do feel assured by President Magarief's expression of regret and contempt for the violence, and I don't doubt a broad committment to justice and friendship. I am glad of that, and retain hope for a mutually respectful International relationship since that clearly seems our nations' natural future. The world turns with all of us on it.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#25 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:41 AM EDT
                Comment author avatarJim-1963167Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                We came out of 8 failed years of Bush 4 failed years of his daddy. 2 wars started by Republicon lies a housing crash a stock market crash jobs being taken away by the thousands daily. I say we came back pretty damn good considering that the republicons have fought this president at every turn and have made the country suffer more than it would have. America is not STUPID they have seen the doings of the RepubliCon party in their attempt to see Obama was a 1 term prez, But he will get his 4 years and we will see what becomes of it.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#26 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:48 AM EDT

                What are you talking about?--Please list the ways that we have "came back pretty damn good".

                • 9 votes
                #26.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:10 AM EDT

                I didn't think so....

                • 7 votes
                #26.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:36 AM EDT

                Probably reloading his bong,give him time.

                • 5 votes
                #26.3 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:52 AM EDT

                Jim, you may want to do a little more research rather than just believing the Democrat talking points. First of all you might want to find out who REALLY caused the house market to crash. I'll give you brief synopsis and you can check it out for yourself.

                First of all let me start by stating, I am NOT a Republican and blame them equally for much of the economic plight we are in. That being said, it was the big push by the Democrats to initiate what they called "fair housing" that started the problem interference from the government through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac allowed people who had no real ability to pay back the mortgage loans they were taking out to buy homes that banks, under normal circumstances would not have allowed. The TRUTH is that the government THREATENED banks that if they didn't alter their restrictions on home buying criteria they would be fined enormous amounts.

                Although this was initially a Democrat plan, Bush and his neo-cons were as much at fault for this calamity. During “A Home Of Your Own” conference on May 17, 2002 President Bush urged Congress to use taxpayers money to interfere in the market place by lowering down payments for those that cannot afford to buy a home. During that speech President Bush also explained how the guarantees of home loans by the Government Sponsored Enterprises would streamline the underwriting process and basically neglect the risk variable.

                However later in his time as President he saw that we were heading for a cliff with no safety net. Twice the Bush administration questioned and warned Congress of the impending collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and both times people like Barney Frank (D) Massachusetts, said that there was nothing wrong - this only months before the actual collapse.

                You also stated that we have come back pretty good and I have to agree with Grishnak, where have we come back? Granted the housing market appears to be coming back, but at what cost? Houses that five years ago that went for 300,000 are selling for half that - and guess how are buying them - I'll give you a hint, not Joe middle class. Gas prices are twice what they were when Bush left office. Inflation has gone up 7% in the last four years - not bad under a normal economy, but devastating to the poor and middle class when jobs are STILL above 8% (that doesn't include those that have given up looking, which would put the REAL unemployment closer to 12%).

                I all honesty the reason why we are in the spot we are in today is that Bush and the neo-cons were nothing more than liberal lite and went along with democrat-liberal programs the entire 8 years they were in the white house. Remember for 6 of those 8 years both the Senate and House were controlled by Democrats. Policy CANNOT be dictated by the President alone unless boht branches of government are controlled by the same party - the two wars people keep blaming Bush for were VOTED on by Congress by both Democrats and Republicans.

                Bottom line Jim we are being screwed by both parties and unless the general public figure that out we will continue to head down the road to tyranny and third world economic status.

                If you want REAL change vote Gary Johnson - Libertarian - President 2012

                • 4 votes
                #26.4 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

                did yo ever think that the republicans were right in what they tried to prevent? I sure as hell do, Did you ever see such media bias. Go back to nixon and watergate. A simple break-un. no one killed, actually no one hurt. But the media night after night went after this man. said cover up. money loundering, yadda-yadda-yadda. Yet, this media, not one word-not one word. and they still are covering up. There was a impeachment process going on, and finally nixon resigned, for the good of the country. Think obama is going to do that. Nope. he is going deeper in this cover up. and believe me, it is now in full scale. this is worse than watergate, there will be no investigations, until as "they'say after elections. Wanna bet?? Obama now has to go, he must go and will go. good ridence to a nightmarish 4 years.

                • 1 vote
                #26.5 - Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:40 AM EDT
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                Obama lied, people died. Why didn't Obama provide protection for embassy personel in this dangerous country.

                • 13 votes
                Reply#27 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:49 AM EDT
                Comment author avatarJim-1963167Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Lied please tell the class what he lied about. Your momma needs to slap your punk azz

                • 2 votes
                #27.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:52 AM EDT

                Simple Jim, he lied about the REAL cause of the attack in Libya - he still contends that it was NOT planned and caused by some stupid film - of course he doesn't want to admit that there was foreknowledge of an impending attack - the man is incompetent at the very best, but in reality he is a Marxist provocatur and doing a damn good job of destrying our Republic.

                • 3 votes
                #27.2 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

                It came out that the whitehouse had deleated and destroye memos from stevens. not one word from the mainstream . Why. because those c---su--ers are bought off by the whitehouse by our tax money. hell. i bet if romney wins, they will blame him as obama is in Hi lavishing in his 36 million dollar home by the beach.

                • 1 vote
                #27.3 - Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:44 AM EDT
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                Racist = Someone who thinks the President is incompetent. Ok, I accept the new definition. Keep deploying the chaff, flares and smoke because it works on the ones who lack grey matter. Printing race cards, just like printing money, without something to back it up it, has no value. I'm getting real tired of the left saying the President is incompetent because he's 1/2 black! How about he's just plain incompetent and we leave his pigmentation out?

                • 14 votes
                Reply#28 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:58 AM EDT
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