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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad addresses the 67th session of the United Nations General Assembly at United Nations headquarters in New York Wednesday.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad complained to the United Nations General Assembly in a speech Wednesday that his country was under the “continued threat” of military action by “uncivilized Zionists.”
Ahmadinejad, who is due to leave office next June after serving two four-year terms, was speaking amid growing tensions over claims Iran is secretly trying to develop nuclear weapons, its belligerent language toward Israel and its support for Bashar Assad’s regime in Syria. Iran says its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only.
Israeli leaders have been openly contemplating military action again Iranian nuclear facilities, dismissing Iran's claims and the idea of a diplomatic solution as a dead end.
Israel and many in the West cite Iran’s failure to cooperate fully with nuclear inspectors as an indication that it is seeking nuclear weapons.
Pugnacious Iranian president rips Israel, US
In his speech, Ahmadinejad complained that the world’s leading powers were forcing others to submit to their wishes.
“Continued threat by the uncivilized Zionists to resort to military action against our great nation is a clear example of this bitter reality,” he said, according to a translator.
President Obama tells the United Nations General Assembly that the US will "do what we must" to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
Ahmadinejad also asked people to imagine that wars from the Crusades to Iraq and Afghanistan, and other events and practices in history – such as slavery, colonial oppression, the current global financial crisis and the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. -- had not happened.
“Imagine how beautiful and pleasant our lives and how heavenly the history of mankind would have been,” he said.
He put the blame for much of the current problems on the leading countries and called for a new world order. “The current abysmal situation of the world and the bitter incidents of history are due mainly to the wrong management of the world and the self-proclaimed centers of power,” he said.
US: Iran missile test is 'pure fabrication'
A spokesman for the U.S. mission said the U.S. boycotted Ahmadinejad's speech because of his statements during the last few days -- and because the U.N. scheduled his speech on Yom Kippur.
"Over the past couple of days, we've seen Mr. Ahmadinejad once again use his trip to the U.N. not to address the legitimate aspirations of the Iranian people but to instead spout paranoid theories and repulsive slurs against Israel,” the spokesman said in a statement. “It's particularly unfortunate that Mr. Ahmadinejad will have the platform of the U.N. General Assembly on Yom Kippur, which is why the United States has decided not to attend.”
Canada's delegation also walked out.
On Tuesday, President Barack Obama warned the General Assembly that the U.S. would not allow Iran to do develop nuclear weapons.
Obama: US will 'do what we must' to stop Iran getting nuclear weapons
“Make no mistake: A nuclear-armed Iran is not a challenge that can be contained. It would threaten the elimination of Israel, the security of Gulf nations, and the stability of the global economy. It risks triggering a nuclear-arms race in the region, and the unraveling of the non-proliferation treaty,” he said.
“That’s why a coalition of countries is holding the Iranian government accountable. And that’s why the United States will do what we must to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon,” he added.
World's largest oil trader flouts Iran sanctions
In an interview with The Associated Press Tuesday, Ahmadinejad said he had no knowledge of the whereabouts of Robert Levinson, a private investigator and former FBI agent who vanished in Iran five years ago.
He said he directed Iranian intelligence services two years ago to work with their counterparts in the U.S. to locate him.
"And if any help there is that I can bring to bear, I would be happy to do so," he said.
He also claimed never to have heard of Amir Hekmati, a former U.S. Marine who is imprisoned on espionage charges in Iran.
Hekmati was arrested while visiting his grandmother in Iran in August 2011, and his family has been using Ahmadinejad's visit to New York to plead for his release.
NBC News' Ian Johnston, The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
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For peaceful purposes only? So the centrifuges are for peaceful nuclear bombs only? Does this man's word have any credibility what so ever with anybody in the world?
I can imagine somebody standing in a forum in 500 BCE saying the same thing about Cyrus the Great, King of Persia.
What about his continuing threats to Israel ?
That jerkweed needs to rescind his threat to erase Israel from the pages of history for all time, and mean it.
He does not need nuclear weapons. He has threatened the very existence of Israel for no other reason than some Koran prophesy. Until Ahmadinejad leaves power, and threats, attacks, and suicide bombings cease, Israel has a right to defend themselves.
Gee Davi, all of our intelligence agencies agree that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. Why does he lack credibility. Do you have some information that he has been lying? Iranians have never been know for suicide attacks. Iran is a nation that has not attacked another country in almost 200 years.Look it up.
He has not threatened to erase Israel from the pages of history. He has stated that the present Israeli regime should disappear from the pages of time. That is not quite the same as saying Iran would attack Israel. The Communist government of Russia has disappeared and no country attacked Russia.
Tell me, what exactly is Israeli defending themselves from. Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon, a blue water navy or a viable air force, while Israel is armed to the teeth with weapons from the US, which includes F16s, tanks, submarines Apache helicopters, bunker busting bombs and a real navy.
Stop believing Zionist propaganda, which is printed daily in the Zionist controlled news media, which includes newspapers, television and portions of the internet.
No more wars for Israel. Also, lets stop supporting them, as they are no more than parasites, which have received more than 123 billion dollars from America over the years. It islong past time for for the Jews of Israel to start supporting themselves. They are no better than welfare recipients on the dole.
If all sides concerned would tone down their whining and bellicosee rhetoric, then maybe something useful could get accomplished. Israel threatens Iran. Iran threatens Israel and the U.S. Nobody wins and everybody loses! It's a fool's game.
Dav1bg, the centrifuges are for making uranium for medical isatopes. With 70 million people in that country don't you think some have cancer and need chemo? Do you hate just for the sake of hate? Don't get cancer now Dav.
THis nazi islamic terrorist is just a spokesman for equally mass murdering Islamic terrorists called the ayatollahs who have declared war on 6 continents by continued terrorists attacks.Wiping out the Islamic revolution in Iran will be self defense,These demons are international war criminals agains the peace and humanity.Wiping countries off the map is just one of their pyscho threats.Iran has held the world hostage for 33 years with its terrorism.Hitler brought on the destruction of Germany with his ranting and raving.The ayatollahs will do the same.Most of the world will cheer when Iran is attacked.Many of them have been victims of Iranian terrorism.The world won´t wait much longer ..Time is running out for Iran!
Bart Martin, everyone knows your a paid Israeli shill trying to change American public opinion. Americans are reading " If Americans Only Knew". I'm sure you are familiar with the site. Your hate shows the type of person you really are. Palestine is at the UN and they have the majority of votes to make them a non-member state to stop you from stealing land. Obama will be re-elected and as he told Putin he can do more after the election. Netanyhoo and Lieberman have made Israel loose all credibility. Your History Pal.
Why must USA be the world policemen? If Iran or any nation wants to make a nuke bomb, let them destroy each other. Why should USA have the duty to stop them? Who annointed USA with the mission to police the third world free from nukes?
DAVI. Iran has allowed iaea inspection more than any country in the world since the establishment of npt and iaed. iaea has cameras on every cenrifuge that iran has 24/7. what else are they suppose to do. the idea of israelis fake fabrication of iran making atomic bomb is just stupid. they don't need to make a bomb, If they wanted it they could by it period.
denver bill. don't compare these blood sucking imperialist, greedy bastered with cyrus the great. he was not an invader, he was a liberator and was welcomed where ever he went. he was the first to introduce human rights and was fist ever to free the jews from slavery and the only non jew in torat to be refered as a profit. and he is still regarded as one the most influential figures in human history.
RalphH If Iran were not trying to develop nuclear weapons then there would be no reason to hid their nuclear program,they would let the UN inspectors inspect the sites they need to.Iran is nothing more than a bunch of kooks playing cat and mouse games with the international community.Iran can not be trusted any more than some of these countries attempted to trust nazi germany in WWII.Anyone who has not learned from that is a complete fool.
Tom - Iran is not hiding their sites and they are and heve been under inspection by the IAEA. Perhaps you should quit posting if you cannot keep abreast of the news.
WASHINGTON, Sept 1
2012 (IPS) - The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report made public
Thursday reveals that Iran has actually reduced the amount of 20-percent
enriched uranium available for any possible "breakout" to weapons
grade enrichment over the last three months rather than increasing it.
Contrary to the
impression conveyed by most news media coverage, the report provides new
evidence that Iran's enrichment strategy is aimed at enhancing its bargaining
position in negotiations with the United States rather than amassing such a
breakout capability.
oh boo hoo nut job!
Well I guess that settles it. We should all follow this mans lead and the world will be at peace.
Ed-Nav Doc, Iran has not been threatening Israel. It only has been saying it will defend itself with a counter attack. Israel and the US are the ones doing the threatening.
Parker Joe,You suffer from moral dyslexia and see things backwards.There are millions of people who understand Farsi and "wiping Israel off the map" is not only a threat ,it´s a crime against the peace by international law.Iran also is a international criminal for its constant terrorist attacks.Stop inventing history.Iran not threatening Israel.? .Iran rants ,raves and barks like Hitler did.The world takes what Iran says VERY seriously.That´s why the Islamic Revolution will be defeated ,just like the Nazi Revolution was.Iran not only threatens Israel but Europe,the U.S the Japanese head atomic inspector and just about the whole world.But soon their barking will come to an end. And most of the world will cheer.. 33 years of holding the world hostage is coming to an end..!!
Parkerjoe, you don't keep up on current events much do you? I guess you missed the article in the last few days about the Iranian Brigadier General of the Revolutionary Guards who said that Iran was considering a preemptive strikes against the U.S. If that is not a threat, than I've got some oceanfront property in Montana I'll sell you real cheap!
bart martin every time I read your comments, it makes me more convinced that either you are just plain stupid or you are purposly lying to advocate israeli's interst. first, there are absolutly no prove that Iran is making a nuclear bomb. zero prove. Iran has been open to iaea inspection(unlike israel) more than any country in the history of npt and iaea. there are cameras installed and monitors the centrifuges 24/7.It is israel who threaten to attack Iran weakly, iranian are just responding to an attack. and the BS you keep brining up about they want to wipe israel off the map is nothing but a lie. there are israelis who on a daily basis wiping off more palestinian homes and farms and the only nazi I see is the israeli regime that is making a concentration camp out of palestine
Rameshm2, post #2.3 above refers to you as well.
How about that, no comment !
Excuse me, Dinijad. If you weren't such a lyingass bigot with hatred for others, we might actual trust your stinkingass with nukes. But you're a lyingass bigot with stupidity as your rule of thumb.
With a name like King of all mankind you must be an Israeli. Please tell me one thing he lied about and give facts, I'll bet you can't. But on the other hand we all know that Netanyhoo is a liar, just ask Sarcozy.
Parker Joe stop inventing history and fantasy stories,Iran has lied to Germany and france for over 15 years in their nuke talks,Then they´ve lied to the U.N. They´ve also lied to Argentina over the 2 terrorist bombings in Buenas Aires.They´ve attacked on 6 continents.But they say What?? not me. even though they´ve been caught with their hand in the cookie jar.And the killings in Bulgaria have been denied.Even though the Bulgarians have clear proof of the Iranian connection.Iran has lied more often than Heinz has soups. Iran is a pathological mass murderer and their lying fits the pattern.Is that enough proof .Or do you want100 more examples of Iranian lying in the last 33 years.. You must have studied at a hezbollah training camp to write the nonsense that you do!
Bart Martin, I am a jew against zionism. I know more about Iran and the mid-east than your hateful mind could ever know. I have been in war and I know how Israel has killed many, many people and tried to do it in Gods name. You are pathetic and do not know anything about Judaism. ZIONISM IS NOT JUDAISM. You are a fake and time will prove me right. Thank you God for these computers because the truth will come out.
parkerjoe56,
You really believe that the puppet Ahmadinejad has not threatened Isreal? You are either deaf or stupid! If he says it one more time it will be at least a hundred! Ahmadinejad is religious fanatic who is also a criminal. Ahmadinejad took part in the 1979 attack on the American Embassy in Tehran and took Americans Hostage. he should have been arrested at JFK airport and put on trial! If you are a Jew I would be very surprised. Ahmadinejad wants the extermination of the "Jewish state", Isreal. No self respecting Jew would dare protect a criminal fanatic who supports Hammas. Ahmadinejad is right on one respect parkerjoe56, you are an "Infedel"!
tom tarbox.
in 1953 after a democratic election, the cia agents operating from U.S EMBASSY. planed the over throgh of the democracy in Iran and they succeded. fulled me once, shame on you. fulled me twice, shame on me. they learned the lesson so they took over the u.s embassy. any one experiencing this, would have done the same. And no he did not say that he wants to wipe israel off the face of the earth. there are many jews in iran that have lived there for many thousends of years. and no he is not anti semite. he is against the israeli's who want to control the middle east and eventually expand to what they claime god gave them. by the way the real puppets are the american politician who have sold their sole to israel for money. I don't advocate for iran government since they are an opressive regime, but then again israelis on their own way are the same if not worse. and iranian have the right under the npt agreement to have a nuclear technology.
Rameshm2, whether or not you advocate for the Iranian government I could care less. But I'll be damned if I will accept any responsibility for something that occurred the year I was born like you seem to expect people here to do. You want to hate Israel for whatever reason, feel free to do but don't try to dump your baggage onto others that do not share your views.
Don't worry Iran, Obama has given you a green light to nukes.
If the American public gets a little upset with you, don't be concerned.
Obama is prez (at least for a bit longer), and we'll apologize.
Yeah, imagine that all the bad stuff like slavery and imperialism hadn't happened! Wouldn't it be awesome? And if 9/11 had never occured! Aparteid was awful, right? It would be great if that mess had never been. And what if the Holocaust had never-
Oh. RIGHT.
tick tick tick tick tick. boooooooooooom.
Is he kidding???
Sounds like his script writers are getting this stuff from some of the commenters here.
Yes...just imagine how beautiful and pleasant our lives and how heavenly the history of mankind would have been without the Ottomans whose thirst for blood prompted the Crusades and well...I'll let this historical link speak for itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_army
Violence,murder. subjugation and aspirations of empire can be glamorous and honorable (and frankly go hand in hand)...it's all in the lighting. Persia lights up the history of it's previous 2 empires pretty well. But when you take away the lighting it's history is just as shrouded and nasty as the rest of the world. The difference is that the rest of the world, except China probably, is not in denial about their checkered pasts.
how about the blood thirsty arabs who killed and rape and invaded in the name of islam.
Kinda reminds me of the days I would come home from work and my kids would say "we didn't do anything wrong today".
Ahmedinejad,
Great ideas, vision, identification of stink in the middle east..
But he needs to work on his diplomacy a bit..
I might feel like calling benji a slithering backstabbing ungrateful liar ally ....
But its not nice to say it in public..
Abdallah is criticizing Ahmadinejad? Wonders will never cease!
Come on Cassandra, Abdallah is a paid shill like you who excels at hasbara. I see you and him on the sites all the time. You know an Israeli is lying when he-she moves their lips. To bad though, Palestine will get statehood shortly from the UN and Obama will get re-elected. He'll remember how Netanyhoo treated him and the Palestinians will see you all at the Hague.
The Parker broken record just keeps going going going...zzzz zombie brainwashing from an Islamic school...
I'm so happy that is all you can say Bart. It means you are defenceless, which you are.
People are tired of martin fart 's mumbo jumbo equating muslim or Iranian mullah to nazi. Franlkly he has no credibility.
If parkerjoe is really a Jew, he is beneath contempt. I might merely remind him that between 1/3 and 1/2 of all the Jews in the world live in Israel, which he drools to see destroyed.
Now PJ is attacking Abdallah as an Israeli stooge, when in fact he is completely anti-Israel. PJ seems to have no mortal idea of waht is going on.
Wrong. His posts are spot on.
It's under the "No Credibility" section where your posts land.
I'm getting tired of all the theatrics at the U.N. it doesn't get the World anywhere if you don't show up and listen to view points. The United States was founded on differing views, some quite belligerent, but at least the States came to a consensus on how the U.S. as a nation should be put together
First, you need to remember that theses speeches given are not for you're consumption. He's given them strictly for the 'folks back home'.
Second, the UN actually does some good. Remember, it's a loosely organized group of countries and has no teeth with which to enforce any rules. But in a diverse world, talking is much preferred to fighting and killing. We'll never know if the UN has actually prevented any wars but we do know it hasn't started any. War can only be avoided by negotiations. At least the UN can provide some type of forum.
Third, the formation of the US is a completely different matter. Our founders actually wanted to form a country. A country comprised largely of people who had the same concerns, same ideals, and same demographics. The UN does not and never will have that task. The UN exists as a forum to allow different countries to express their concerns to the world in general. And the countries involved try to help solve issues. Doesn't always work but its much better than what we had before. Just imagine, had the UN existed prior to WWII something might have been done before Germany actually completely overran all of Europe.
No, much as people like to blow off the UN the world is just a very small ball in this huge universe. We are all confined to it (for the foreseeable future at least) and must try to get along. We need the UN. Perhaps it needs better teeth but that won't happen as long as people put nationality above peace.
nice dsb, I enjoyed your viewpoint
And here's a little more from everyone's favorite sabre rattler...OBL should have been given due process.
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Ahmadinejad-Rants-Against-Superpowers-Israel-Killing-of-Bin-Laden-171358241.html
“Imagine how beautiful and pleasant our lives and how heavenly the history of mankind would have been,” he said.
Like if Islam had never come to fruition? Works both ways! Idiot!!!
I think he has to learn what many people have to learn because they were not taught as children. You talk tough long enough and sooner or later someone is going to make you back it up.
Ron then why is Israel talking so tough and yet demanding that the US back them up? Kinda like 2,000 years ago when they used the Romans the same way uh?
PJ, have you any vague idea what you are talking about. The Jews REVOLTED against Rome...they didn't use them for anything.
Of course it matters not that what he is saying is the truth. Americans think what they are told to think.
If Romney gets elected he won't have to complain anymore. Gotta keep the only industry that's thriving moving along ya know.
How about Fu@k You! You are a lying POS who really thinks that the rest of the world is listining. Iran has called for the "elimination" of Israel how many times? The U.S should let the Iranian dogs get a nuke and then vaporize Iran...turn it into a big glass parking lot. Gimmee that damn button! I'll push it today. I have just about had my fill of all these "muslim" countries demanding respect without giving the same in return. It's no wonder NOBODY wants them around. Nuke them all, let Allah sort them out.
Bob,
You may want to check that "The world hates iran.." thing..
Contrary to what you think, world does not mean US & isreal only... majority of the world, say 95% not necessarily like iran, but do not have problem with their nuke energy ...
Germany Russia UK just have tpo be politicxally correct to criticize iran..
Abdallah you lying sack of crap. 95% of the countries? 120 countries showed up for NAM and they all backed Iran. 70 are members of the UN so you are an out right liar and God hates liars.
Am I missing something here or what?
Abdallah,
I stand by my assertion that "NOBODY" wants muslims around. They, as a group are some of the most distastful people I have ever come accross in my life. I have been lied to, cheated (at least they tried to), misslead and had "them" try and change the terms of an agreement after the fact. They claim to be a "peaceful" reliegion but look at their record of oppression of women, children and others not of the muslim faith. Look at how the behave, cutting off the heads of reporters (Daniel Pearle), dragging American Soldiers through the streets after burning their bodies, burning the American flag, hijacking ships off Somalia, flying planes into the World Trade Center, suicide bombers, killing inocent people everyday...the list goes on and on.
Sharia law will take their people back to the dark ages. Living in mud huts, human rites violations and making it their goal in life to kill anybody who dosen't believe the way they do. You sir need to put the bong down and wake up. The muslim adgenda is to take over the world via a population explosion and exterminate the infidels...period! A stupid short movie that mocks mohamad set them off on a killing spree, give me a break. Look at France, the country is being overrun by muslims as well as several other countries in the E/U.
So, please spare me your diatribe about the muslims. I don't trust them as a "people", as a religeion or as someone that I want to be around. They expect too much and give too little. And I've had my fill of them. Now, where's that button.
The country of Iran is run by psychotic idiots. I truly feel sorry for the people of that country. It is They who are suffering the most, and it is they who will really suffer once this all comes to pass, and it will soon.
Call me dumb, but I just don't see WHY it has to be the U.S. who bombs Iran .... why is all this pressure on Obama ??? Israel is the country that's REALLY in danger of a nuclear armed Iran, not us. Should it not be them who take the initiative here (with us having their back of course)????
You are right, majority of Americans think so..
The polls show Obama 50 to 44 ahead in Gallup and others.. Only Rasmussen show a tie (Got to be jewish operated)..
Isreal wants to attack iran, invade, lose thousands of brave men, lose trillions.. All the while, freaking isrealis enjoy themselves in the background.... economy intact, nobody killed etc...
And, we make even more muslim enemies because of those mofos in the process...
Correction to my post.
You sir are an anti-zionist pig...and are just as bad as they are for ur attitude
There, I just thought it should be said again. It was concise, and to the point.
So we both agree zionists are pigs.. What is the problem then?
Does any body remember how much the national debt of the US has become? With friends like the Wall Street Bankers does America need enemies? Keep going!
durka durka durka durka......durka?
This guy really is an idiot.
We kill you Isreal! Why are we under continued threat from the Zionist pigs we wonder? We kill you Isreal. We are minding our own business and you are mad we want to exterminate you. We kill you...
It's like Iran has twin "presidents" and they let one out one day and another out the next day to speak...only they don't tell each one what the other said ever!.....his new nickname is freakin' smeagol. We hates the nasty little hobbitsesss..
Freakin' idiot.
I didn't hear a word he said... all I heard was blah blah blah and then this article reminded me of Persian woman so I had to Google that and holy lord almighty... if there are any beautiful Persian woman looking to get out of Iran I have a nice location out in a North West Suburb that she can stay at anytime...
I know what you mean Borderlands .... Persian women are FINE !!!!!!!
the crazy arab is lucky reagan isnt prez cause if he waz,iran would be flat,gray and smokin a long long time ago
Calling Ahmadinejad a dictator is totally wrong, when he is a completely powerless person. He's not in charge of the army, he's barely in charge of the budget, he makes no foreign policy decisions whatsoever, he's not part of the intelligence apparatus in Iran, he can't suggest or pass any laws.
Still, no matter what Ahmadinejad says the MSM will invariably use the occasion to repeat the neocons' talking points.
We are to consider him the new Hitler because the neocons and their media sympathizers say he is. Never mind that he doesn't control the military or Iran's foreign policy, or that Iran hasn't invaded any country.
We are constantly told that Iran's nuclear power program is a secret weapons program because the neocons and their media sympathizers say it is. Never mind that it has been mostly in compliance with the NPT, while Israel has never signed the treaty.
We are constantly told that he wants to wipe Israel off the map. Even though he didn't say any such thing. Iran has a large Jewish community, and anti-Zionist statements by Ahmadinejad are not "anti-Semitic". Iran wants an end to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Golan Heights. Many Israelis want an end to the occupation of the West Bank.
Just as the MSM prepared the American public for the Iraq disaster, it is at it again preparing us to fight a proxy war against Iran.
And there's this...
IAEA Report Shows Iran Reduced Its Breakout Capacity
By Gareth Porter
WASHINGTON, Sep 1 2012 (IPS) - The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report made public Thursday reveals that Iran has actually reduced the amount of 20-percent enriched uranium available for any possible "breakout" to weapons grade enrichment over the last three months rather than increasing it.
Contrary to the impression conveyed by most news media coverage, the report provides new evidence that Iran's enrichment strategy is aimed at enhancing its bargaining position in negotiations with the United States rather than amassing such a breakout capability.
Read the whole article here...
Here's the link:
And you believe him ? Thas messed up.
Excuse me, IL-logical...Ahmadinejad sure as hell DID say he wanted to wipe Israel off the map...and called it a "cancerous tumor," which by definition must be removed.
Logical- Please post the link.
Cassandra- Ahmadinejad sure as hell did not say he wanted to wipe Israel off the map. Read what he said.
So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To
quote his exact words in Farsi:
"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e
qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv
shavad."
That passage will mean nothing to most
people, but one word might ring a
bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "regime." pronounced just like
the English
word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not
refer to
Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This
is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the
map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the
specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying
Jerusalem).
So this raises the question.. what exactly
did he want "wiped from the map"?
The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never
used. The Persian word for
map, "nagsheh" is not contained anywhere in
his original Farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire
speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are
led
to believe that Iran's president threatened to "wipe Israel off the
map."
despite never having uttered the words "map." "wipe out" or
even "Israel."
The Proof:
The full quote translated directly to
English:
"The Imam said this regime
occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."
It is splitting hairs but
it was a huge misquote by Israel
“The former Commander of the Air
Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was ‘no
threat of destruction’ but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was
nevertheless justified so that Israel could ‘exist according the scale, spirit,
and quality she now embodies.’...Menahem Begin had the following remarks to
make: ‘In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in
the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We
must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.’“ Noam Chomsky,
“The Fateful Triangle.”
Was
the 1967 war defensive? — continued
“I do not think Nasser wanted war.
The two divisions he sent to The Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch
an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it.” Yitzhak Rabin, Israel’s Chief
of Staff in 1967, in Le Monde, 2/28/68
Moshe
Dayan posthumously speaks out on the Golan Heights
“Moshe Dayan, the celebrated
commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the
Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately
provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to
take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan
stated] ‘They didn’t even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send
a tractor to plow some area where it wasn’t possible to do anything, in the demilitarized
area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn’t
shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the
Syrians would get annoyed and shoot.
And then we would use artillery and
later the air force also, and that’s how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth
day of the war, were not a threat to us.’” The New York Times, May 11, 1997
The
history of Israeli expansionism
“The acceptance of partition does
not commit us to renounce Transjordan; one does not demand from anybody to give
up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today. But the
boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no
external factor will be able to limit them.” David Ben-Gurion, in 1936,
quoted in Noam Chomsky, “The Fateful Triangle.”
So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Farsi:
"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv
shavad."
That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a
bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "regime." pronounced just like the English
word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to
Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This
is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the
map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the
specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).
So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"?
The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never
used. The Persian word for
map, "nagsheh" is not contained anywhere in
his original Farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire
speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led
to believe that Iran's president threatened to "wipe Israel off the map."
despite never having uttered the words "map." "wipe out" or even "Israel."
The Proof:
The full quote translated directly to English:
"The Imam said this regime
occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."
It is splitting hairs but it was a huge misquote by Israel
Zionists are pathalogical liars, who repeat the same lie so many times, some of them believe it is truth. They pulled the same stunt with regard to the 1967 war, claiming they were attacked by all the Arab nations at once, when Israel plainly started the war by attacking Egypt.
“The former Commander of the Air
Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was ‘no
threat of destruction’ but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was
nevertheless justified so that Israel could ‘exist according the scale, spirit,
and quality she now embodies.’...Menahem Begin had the following remarks to
make: ‘In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in
the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We
must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.’“ Noam Chomsky,
“The Fateful Triangle.”
Was
the 1967 war defensive? — continued
“I do not think Nasser wanted war.
The two divisions he sent to The Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch
an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it.” Yitzhak Rabin, Israel’s Chief
of Staff in 1967, in Le Monde, 2/28/68
Moshe
Dayan posthumously speaks out on the Golan Heights
“Moshe Dayan, the celebrated
commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the
Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately
provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to
take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan
stated] ‘They didn’t even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send
a tractor to plow some area where it wasn’t possible to do anything, in the demilitarized
area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn’t
shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the
Syrians would get annoyed and shoot.
And then we would use artillery and
later the air force also, and that’s how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth
day of the war, were not a threat to us.’” The New York Times, May 11, 1997
The
history of Israeli expansionism
“The acceptance of partition does
not commit us to renounce Transjordan; one does not demand from anybody to give
up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today. But the
boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no
external factor will be able to limit them.” David Ben-Gurion, in 1936,
quoted in Noam Chomsky, “The Fateful Triangle.”
HUH???!!!! Where??? What year are you talking about??? They HAD a large Jewish community. Just like they had a large Christian community and they had and a large Baha i' community.
Please site your sources, community locations, etc., with current information.
Maybe he didn't say it yesterday (I didn't bother with his entire posturing) but it has been specifically said in the past.
By the way...if you are against the re-creation of Israel, what are your feelings regarding the Partition of 1947???
Chefaz, well stated. I am curious, are you familiar with term Post Zionism? It is a growing movement in Israel among the younger generation of Israelis that denounce Zionism as a failed movement or one that has long outlived any usefulness. It is slowly gaining momentum and the hard liners in the Israeli government fear the spread of this ideology. One of the main tenets of this movement is to try to coexist peacefully with their neighbors. I have brought this up to several of those haters posting here asking their views on this movement and not one has bothered to or are afraid to answer. It seems their hatred won't let them see past the end of their noses and acknowledge that such a movement could exist and be a good thing for peace!
"On the question of Iran, we are all united in the goal of preventing Iran from achieving nuclear weaponry. On the day on which we pray to be inscribed in the Book of Life, a stage was given to the tyrannical regime of Iran which seeks at every opportunity to sentence us to death," Netanyahu said.
"On Yom Kippur eve, sacred to the Jewish people, the Iranian tyrant chose to call publicly before all of the world for us to vanish. This is a black day for those who chose to remain in the auditorium and hear these hateful words."
"In statements I will make before representatives of the nations at the U.N. General Assembly, they will hear our response. As prime minister of Israel, the state of the Jewish people, I am working in every way in order that Iran does not have nuclear weaponry," Netanyahu said.
"History proves that those who wanted to wipe us off the map failed in that objective, while the Jewish people overcame all obstacles."
-Benjamin Netanyahu
9/14/2012
We don't have to prevent Iran from achieving nuclear weaponry, because they are not trying to achieve nuclear weaponry. In other words, Israel wants the US to stop something Iran is not trying to accomplish.
It would be a war crime to attack a country because you "think" they "might" one day aquire the capablity to build a nuclear weapon. That is what Israel wants the US to do.
Even if one day, Iran decided to build a weapon, there is no guarantee they would ever use it, as their record shows. Imagine, they have not started a war with another country in almost 200 years. That makes Iran one of the more peaceful countries in the world.
The real beauty is, we don't have to support them as we do the Israelis. Israel is a country of welfare recipients, sponging tax dollars from the American people, without shame.
Yes, and when Iran detonates a bomb you'll say "Israel has one, so should Iran".
Imagine that, Steven. Now imagine anyone doing the same to Iran on Ramadan or Hajj.
ooo just thinking about it, i can hear the sabre rattling...LOUD!!!
Come to think of it, why isn't anyone running around rioting and burning and murdering and dragging ambassadors out???
Indeed Iran should have one since israel has one.
A nuclear armed Iran will provide a check and balance to israel's warmongering and bellicose posture.
israel has been bullying her neigbours with weapons provided free by US. Time to put an end to this injustice.
Or, as Americans did not put it in World War II..."If America has an atom bomb, the Germans should, too."
Iran's only 'leader' is the ayatollah. He is the 'supreme leader' and what he says goes. Ahmadinejad is merely a puppet monkey who got where he is by being one of the major players in the takeover of the US embassy in Tehran and the kidnapping and hostage taking of the embassy staff. Iran needs to be reminded that they are merely a fourth or fifth class Muslim radical entity and can be disabled quickly in the event of any armed conflict they might (and probably will) start. Remember, Iran started both wars with Iraq and got their butt handed to them both times.