Israel's Netanyahu: Draw 'clear red line' to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons

In an attempt to convey what he sees as a threat to Israel's existence, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu used a cartoon to illustrate how close he says Iran is to developing a nuclear weapon. In a speech at the United Nations General Assembly he asked the world to help stop them. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

NEW YORK -- Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu demanded that a “clear red line” be set to stop Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon, telling the U.N. General Assembly that with a nuclear Iran, no one in the world would be safe.

In a speech at the U.N. Thursday, Netanyahu said that Iran will have enough enriched uranium to build a bomb by next summer. He said his "red line" to stop Iran from gaining nuclear weapons is to stop it from accumulating that uranium -- because it would impossible to know when Iran has achieved the next step: building a detonator to fire a weapon.

At the U.N. podium, the Israeli prime minister showed a cartoon-like picture of a child's version of a bomb -- and drew a red line to illustrate his ultimatum.


He said that he and Israel appreciated President Barack Obama's statement that the U.S. also would not let Iran get a bomb -- and that he is confident that together the U.S. and Israel can chart a path together.

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But he was very tough on Iran, reciting a litany of terrorism by Iranian proxies around the world and saying that given Iran's aggression without nuclear weapons, if it got nuclear weapons, who'd be safe anywhere?

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel shows an illustration as he describes his concerns over Iran's nuclear ambitions during his address to the 67th session of the United Nations General Assembly at U.N. headquarters Thursday, Sept. 27, 2012.

In his speech, he also compared a nuclear-armed Iran with a nuclear-armed al-Qaida -- and said the only way to prevent war is to draw that red line against Iran accumulating enough enriched uranium to create a bomb.

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An August report by U.N. inspectors said Iran has stockpiled 91.4 kg (about 200 lbs.) of the 20 percent material.

According to the U.N. nuclear watchdog, around 25 kg (about 55 lbs.) of uranium enriched to a 90 percent purity level would be needed for a single nuclear weapon.

Israel, believed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal, sees a nuclear-armed Iran as a threat to its existence and has expressed frustration over the failure of diplomacy and sanctions to rein in Tehran's nuclear activity. Iran says it is enriching uranium only for peaceful energy purposes, not for nuclear bombs.

Obama warned Iran on Tuesday in his speech to the General Assembly that he would do what it takes to prevent Tehran from getting nuclear arms and that "time is not unlimited" for diplomacy to resolve the issue.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said this week he did not take seriously the threat that Israel could launch a military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities.

Reuters contributed to this report.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu tells the UN general assembly Thursday that sanctions are not stopping Iran's nuclear program.

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Personally, I am leaning to the stance of "let Israel do it on their own". The US has been at war for over a decade, and the last thing I want is to see us go into another one.

Iran may be only a local power, but they are hardly weak. Yes, it would be a one-sided war that the US would win in a very short amount of time, but then we could potentially be there for many years "rebuilding" yet another country.

Israel may not be able to launch a ground war, but they are widely assumed to have 100 - 200 nuclear warheads of their own. They could quickly take care of the entirety of Iran on their own if any attack was made against them with a nuclear device.

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#1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

If anything goes down, Israel will need cover and the US would be providing the cover. Like you Matthew I am not ready to see Americans dying in that god forsaken part of the world again.

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#1.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:45 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRedstarRisingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Since Israel's founding, the world has been at war. The only reason America is protecting Israel is to have access to oil in the Middle East. I say it's about time we let those Jews fend for themselves...they have been freeloading off America for the last 60+years...where's the benefit?

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#1.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:50 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJahmekanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Redstar: The world has been at war before Israel and it will stay that way, so please add something constructive to the thread, instead of being a bigot.

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#1.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

Old NET is loosing his grip on the people of Israel . More and more stories are cumming out, that the people of Israel do not want war with Iran. This is going to be a tough sell for him at home. Might just cost him his job.

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#1.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:54 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRalphHExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Iran doesn't have a nuclear device and all our intelligence agencies have concluded they are not working on a nuclear weapon and have not decided whether they ever want one. They have also said they believe Iran is a rational actor. Netanyhu's claims that Iran is responcible for terrorist attacks around the world are fabrications without an ounce of proof.

Look at this statement by Netanyahu in 1992. It shows that Netanyahu has been crying wolf for 20 years and Iran still has not made a nuclear bomb.

'1992:'Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his
colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear
weapon – and that the threat had to be "uprooted by an international front
headed by the US"'.

1992:
Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres tells French TV that Iran was set to have
nuclear warheads by 1999. "Iran is the greatest threat and greatest
problem in the Middle East," Peres warned, "because it seeks the
nuclear option while holding a highly dangerous stance of extreme religious
militancy."

Netanyahu is a clown, intent on getting the US to attack Iran, a country which has not attacked another in almost 200 years. That is a stirling record.

If Israel were to use nuclear weapons on Iran, the fallout could easily rain upon Russia, a country that could wipe out Israel in a day.

JERUSALEM - Despite saber-rattling from Jerusalem, Israeli officials now
agree with the U.S. assessment that Tehran has not yet decided on the actual
construction of a nuclear bomb, according to senior Israeli government and
defense figures.

Even so, there is great concern in Israel about leaving Iran “on the cusp”
of a bomb - explaining why Israel continues to hint at a military attack on
Iran’s nuclear installations before it moves enough of them underground to
protect them from Israel’s bombs. Iran reported in February that it possesses
up to 100 kilograms of uranium enriched to 20 percent, which would be enough
for four bombs if further processed. Uranium must be enriched to 90 percent to
be military grade.

Israeli intelligence officials, like other intelligence agencies worldwide,
estimate that once a decision to build a bomb is reached, it would take months
to upgrade the enrichment and months more to build a crude bomb - in all, a
year to 18 months.

Note: The IAEA monitors all of Iran's enrichment, so further enrichment is IMPOSSIBLE as long as the inspectors are there.

Then, to fit a bomb to a Shahab-3 missile capable of striking Israel would
take Iran two years, Israeli defense officials say.

January
2011: When Meir Dagan steps down as director of Israel’s Mossad spy agency, he
says that Iran would not be able to produce a nuclear weapon until 2015.
"Israel should not hasten to attack Iran, doing so only when the sword is
upon its neck," Mr. Dagan warned. Later he said that attacking Iran would
be "a stupid idea.... The regional challenge that Israel would face would
be impossible."

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#1.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:55 PM EDT
Comment author avatarWants to knowExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

If you don't want to be part of this war, don't vote for Romney. He's Netanyahu's pool boy!

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#1.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:58 PM EDT
Comment author avatarPedestrian-in-SFExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hmmm.... Perhaps Ryan could help Bibi by making a nifty PowerPoint slide for him next time. I hear it's all the rage among the alarmist war-mongering crowd.

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#1.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

I hate it when politicians use props to make a point. More often than not they just come off as retarded. I know what a @!$%#ing red line represents, Netanyahu.

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#1.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

The Israel's are a few land grabs and settlements past give a damn ...........

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#1.9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

Netanyahu messed up. If he REALLY wanted to get his clear red line and bomb diagram to be understood by more people he should have had them draw a picture of Boris Badenov and Natasha holding the bomb while Rocky and Bullwinkle were tied to the railroad tracks....

But I understand that Israel was pressed for time and the payment for the next 3 billion from the US had not deposited in their bank account yet....

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#1.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:04 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDavid NoahExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

There has been war since Human beings have evolved from Apes. It doesn't matter whether your an Israeli or not. If you have something someone else wants and they won't give it to you they will try to take it by force.

Israel has every right to take the stance they have. The Nazi's in World War II tried to eliminate the Jews through Genocide, the "Final Solution", Killing over Five million Jews. The Israelis know more than any race on Earth what can happen if you don't take aggressive threats seriously., Ahmadinejad is constantly saying Israel needs to be "Eliminated", wiped off the map etc.

What should the Israelis do just pretend Iran is full of hot air?

What should the U.S. do just stand by and do nothing while one Nation threatens Genocide on another?

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#1.11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

I agree. If Israel feels threatened, then let them attack Iran on their own. Israel is the US's number one recipient of foreign aid--they have all the arms and motivation they need. If China (whose economy is as dependent on oil as ours) and Russia don't see Iran as a threat in their neighborhood, why should we? I am not willing in having more Americans die in Middle East fights. This is Israel's problem, let them deal with it anyway they see fit.

I see very little strategic value in Israel now that the Soviet Menace has fallen by the wayside. Yes, the Arab Spring is going to have "fits and start" and we are not always going to like what they say or do but long term a unified Middle East sitting at the crossroads between two global economies (Asia/China) and Europe will benefit greatly. Israel will eventually see that its own economic best interest lies in joining the Middle East economy which means they will have to settle their regional and political problems with their neighbors. They will not be able to rely on U.S. handouts for ever. The sooner they understand this the better off they will be.

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#1.12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

He used the power point so he doesn't forget the lie he is about to tell.

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#1.13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

Israel is asking the United Nations to help draw the Red Line. Israel will not need any assistance to stop the further developement of Nuclear fuel.

If for some unknown reason Israel needs anything the United States will help with the destruction of the Nuclear Material.

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#1.14 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

Let israel do it themselves..nuff said.

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#1.15 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

David Noah, 1.11 - What should the U.S. do just stand by and do nothing while one Nation threatens Genocide on another?

Why focus on the U.S.? Why doesn't your question address France, Russia, Zambia, Colombia, Greenland or anyone else? The U.S. has NO obligation to Israel. What have they ever done for us?

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#1.16 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

How about monotheism, king?

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#1.17 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

Save your own ass Bibi

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#1.18 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

Yes, it would be a one-sided war that the US would win in a very short amount of time.

You sure about that Matthew? I seem to recall hearing this before...no make that MANY times before.

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#1.19 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:16 PM EDT
Comment author avatarProBusinessExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

At least there is ONE leader in this world that understands the dangers of terrorism and countries that want to annihilate others. Obama is so busy reading his poll numbers and going on The View and David Letterman he doesn't have a CLUE as to what is going on and the dangers involved. Need an example? The attack on our consulate. It took the president two weeks TWO WEEKS before he realized (or admitted?) that was a terrorist attack.

Netanyahu understands. Also understand he can't afford to be wrong. It wasn't so long ago another evil leader threatened to eliminate the Jews - and we saw how that turned out. Not again. Netanyahu understands and will meet threats with force if needed. Maybe Obama needs to start talking with his State Department and his Intelligence Agency - because Obama doesn't have a CLUE!!

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#1.20 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

"Obama looks at Bibi (Netanyahu) as if he's a conman who doesn't think about anything but his political needs ... and is not serious about the peace process" with the Palestinians, Miller said. "And Bibi thinks Obama is rudderless about the Middle East" and too cautious. - Aaron David Miller, an advisor to U.S. secretaries of state on Arab-Israeli negotiations from 1978 to 2003

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#1.21 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

"How about monotheism, king?"

I missed the part where monotheism was created in 1948 with the founding of Israel.

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#1.22 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

Good question , what has Israel ever done for us ... Operation Susanah ...USS Liberty .. Jonathon Pollard ... the list goes on. It's heartening to see Americans are weary of pandering to these land grabbing fanatics.

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#1.23 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:20 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBentbrassExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

We have a President who said nothing while Iran killed it's own people during their uprising, won't admit that the US embassy in Libya was attacked by terrorist, went to Las Vegas for a fund raiser the day after the attacks and won't meet with any world leaders, even though they are in this country for a UN Council meeting; so does ANYONE believe he'll do anything about Iran's nuclear program?

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#1.24 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

I agree that the US doesn't need to go to war with IRAN. I said that for all of the gulf wars. Huge waste of money. However, Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) principles don't work for these people. If they get the bomb, it is only a matter of time before they use it.

There is no such thing as a surgical nuclear strike. This stuff cannot be contained. Once pandoras' box is open, where will it end? This is the real problem. Iran will open the box. When that happens, the world is in extreme danger. How will Pakistan react? How will India react?

It's a very difficult problem which is why non-proliferation was the key to begin with.

Having said all of this, I thought Benny made a VERY good appeal in his speech to UN - and I'm not a big fan of his.

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#1.25 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

Despite the fact that an overwhelming majority of Americans support Israel and consider it's existence curved in stone; NO American wants another WAR.

We are going through a Global recession that has hit hard here at home and to be honest meddling in conflicts that are going to a further increase the deficit and hurt the US economy is not a smart thing to do.

Netanyahu is shoveling the American people between a hard place and a rock

With an arsenal of Nuclear weapons that rival the US and Russia; the IDF and an intelligence agency (Mossad) that is stuff of legends, Israel should go it alone...

Despite this, we stand with the Israelis in making sure no people with a "habit of conflict" should possess the most lethal weapon on earth, to allow this would be ignorant

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#1.26 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

@RalphH - I do not know where you get your information from, but you are sadly misinformed. The US intelligence community has repeatedly said that Iran is working on nuclear weapons. Even the IAEA, which the US has no control over, has stated that Iran is believed to be working towards nuclear weapons. They have sighted both evidence they have seen at various facilities along with the Iranians refusal to allow them access to certain sites. If the Iranians are really only working on nuclear power, then why do they refuse IAEA requests to inspect their nuclear facilities. They not only require advanced notice for all inspections, they flat out refuse access to some facilities. This tells me without a doubt that they are hiding something. Then there is the recent installation of a large number of advanced centrifuges at their Fordo facility. They have also enriched a very large quantity of uranium to 20% enrichment. This is far beyond the 3-5% enrichment needed for nuclear power reactors. They claim that the higher enriched uranium is for a research reactor, yet they have enriched enough uranium to this higher level to fuel many research reactors, not the one they claim to be working on. The only reason the stockpile uranium enriched to this 20% level is that it is the precursor to feed into the centrifuges to make weapons grade uranium. It is fairly obvious that they are building up a stockpile of 20% enriched uranium so that they can rapidly produce weapons grade material in a time-frame that would make it difficult to stop them. These multiple actions on the part of the Iranians clearly point to the fallacy of their claim that they are only interested in peaceful nuclear power. Even the IAEA, which is completely independent of the US and has no agenda against Iran has stated in their most recent report that they feel Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons. There have even been some satellite images that point to them preparing a site for a possible underground test. Are we going to wait until they detonate their first test bomb before we take any action, with it being too late at that point. I do not agree with a lot of what Israel does, but in this case Netanyahu is correct. We can not continue to push sanctions and diplomatic solutions indefinitely. There needs to be a deadline placed on Iran for modifying their behavior or risk action being taken to stop them. Without a hard deadline, Iran will keep on working on getting a nuclear weapon and thumbing their nose at the UN and the rest of the world. Only a hard deadline will let them know that we are serious about stopping them.

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#1.27 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

It is you that doesn't have a clue. We ask young men and women to go to war and risk life and limb, then on top of that we charge it, so not only do they have to fight it they also have to pay for it. 5% war tax, you want to go to war then you pay as you go, and that means taking care of the vetrans for the rest of their lives which they deserve. A consumption tax so all of you arm chair generals that belong to the 47% not paying income taxes pay too. If it is such a good idea to go to war, then I am sure there will be overwhelming support, but everybody pays and sacrifices, not just the youth

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#1.28 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

Redstar - you are absolutely correct.

If Israel wants to fight let them do it totally on their own. North Korea threatens the world, Pakistan threatens the world but we are not attacking them because they have nuclear capabilities, why would we attack Iran.

Israel is no saint in the efforts to obtain peace so go take care of this yourself .... I will not only not support another war I will be a vocal activist against it.

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#1.29 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

To stop Iran we have a few choices:

Get them to change their minds

Get them to change leadership

Bomb them to almost non-existence

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#1.30 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:27 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJMJ-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

If we do nothing, your daughters and wife's will be dressed up in sheets and can't vote....No BO in 13

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#1.31 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

yeah right, ....monotheism sure has helped the world a lot. If I remember correctly, monotheism is the reason they hate each other.

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#1.32 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

Gridlock

Go ahead and send your son or daughter to bomb their sons and daughters. I'll make sure mine sits this dumb thing out.

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#1.33 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

You sure about that Matthew? I seem to recall hearing this before...no make that MANY times before.

Its entirely possible that it would take a while. But with that being said, Iran is not a major power. The best thing they could have go in their favor is to disperse and do hit-and-run attacks then go back into hiding.

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#1.34 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

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#1.35 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

Once a hawk, always a hawk.

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#1.36 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu demanded that a "clear red line" be set to stop Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon, telling the U.N. General Assembly that with a nuclear Iran, no one in the world would be safe.

Dear Mr. Netanyahu Sir-

Ummmmm- meaning no disrespect to you or Israel but NOT really caring much how you take it: why don't you draw it YOURSELF - and draw it where and when YOU feel you'll be most comfortable using military force against Iran. I wish you all the best in your future military endeavor. As it stands now, and in the event you haven't noticed, or may have forgotten - Americans are fed up with wasting lives and money in these Middle Eastern Wars. Thank you and good day.

Best regards,

Hotticket.

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#1.37 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarbscolExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Don't worry - I'm sure Hillary is on a plane headed to Iran so that she can apologize to Iran for the United States, and she'll have a nice hefty check in hand to give to them.

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#1.38 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

RalphH Comment collapsed by the community

Iran doesn't have a nuclear device and all our intelligence agencies have concluded they are not working on a nuclear weapon and have not decided whether they ever want one. They have also said they believe Iran is a rational actor. Netanyhu's claims that Iran is responcible for terrorist attacks around the world are fabrications without an ounce of proof.

On what fantasy planet did you read that. Did you not see President Obama talk about Iran trying to get a nuclear weapon. Every intelligence agency on the planet knows they are. Rational actor.......I cannot even begin to address the lunacy of that statement. It's ok to be Pro Iran if you want it's ok not to want to go to war also but please don't make stuff up.

You can make up your opinion but not make up the facts.

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#1.39 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

At some point one would think that someone in Iran, with more than 3 firing brain cells, would understand that if they keep on their current path and keep tap dancing on land mines with their ruffling of Israels feathers....Wikipedia will have to change all references to the name of Iran to Glassistan*(* previously known as Iran)

I firmly believe that Israel could take care of Iran all by themselves. But that is not the reality of how it will go down.

Thinking of Iran with nuclear weapons is like thinking of Jeffrey Dahmer with a Seal-A-Meal.

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#1.40 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

Bibi has a point when it comes to Akmadenajaid (or however you spellit). He has been threatening Israel for years. The little short guy needs to button it. However, Israel has enough weaponry to take care of this without any outside help and iran better realise that. Their people dont want war..its just the leaders who keep griping.

I think its time for Bibi sit down and really do some serious talking with the palestinians and vice versa. Quit acting like the iranians are the only ones screwing around. This whole conflict over there has been going on way too long and its time to grow up and deal with it. Your not children..quit asking everyone to fight your battles when you could just sit down and talk it out yourselves. Grow up.

Oh and the jews need to quit talking to the rest of us like we are beneath them. It gets annoying.

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#1.41 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarCy JohnsonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Obama is a chump. The Middle East knows it. Iran knows it. Only morons in America don't get that yet.

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#1.42 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

Is it just me, or that "presentation"of the bomb that Netanyahu is showing looks like something out of 3rd grade. If a 3rd grade made an illustration of a "bomb" like that, it would be just to show how many tickets that have sold for a raffle!!

What a BULLY!

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#1.43 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

At least there is ONE leader in this world that understands the dangers of terrorism and countries that want to annihilate others. Obama is so busy reading his poll numbers and going on The View and David Letterman he doesn't have a CLUE as to what is going on and the dangers involved.

I would say that he is accutely aware of what's going on. In the subtle language of diplomacy, Obama told Netanyahu to @!$%# off. Not meeting with him and going on a daytime show to cackle with a few hens instead sends a clear message that the tail ain't gonna wag the dog. He basically said, we'll take care of this @!$%# when we're good and ready. Back off.

You, my friend, are playing checkers with a chess player.

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#1.44 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

Dear World - FORGET IT, the US has been to busy blowing way too much money on bull@!$%# things like Parks, Armor Personnal Carriers for every piss ant county, Bike Paths, Politicans Pay & Life Time Benefits, and on and on that we have nothing left to give.....

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#1.45 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

Those that don't learn from History are bound to let it repeat.

Why focus on the U.S.? Why doesn't your question address France, Russia, Zambia, Colombia, Greenland or anyone else? The U.S. has NO obligation to Israel. What have they ever done for us?

It appears there are many that have not learned from the past.

In WWI the United States didn't want to be involved and sat on the sidelines. Did it prevent WWI?

In WWII again the U.S. sat on the sidelines until it was attacked by the Japanese. Did it prevent WWII?

Did the U.S sitting on the sidelines in WWII prevent the Holocaust and the killing of millions of Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies, etc?

Did ignoring the warnings about the Nazi death camps, because they couldn't believe Humans could be capable of such a thing, prevent the Holocaust?

In all those cases the U.S. did get dragged into it eventually.

The U.S. is supposed to be the Leader of the Free World. The U.S. is supposed to be setting an example of Democracy and what nations can achieve when they have laws and respect for freedom of speech, religion, other nations right to exist, etc.

The United States is supposed to be the Nation that is setting the example for the rest of the World to follow. If the United States doesn't stand behind its own convictions then what does that make the U.S.?

Keep ignoring the warnings from Iran, burying your head in the sand, denying that human beings could be so cruel to each other that they would try to wipe another race out of existence.

You will be in the same class as the German people of the 1940’s that supported Hitler, and the rest of the World, that refused to believe anyone could be capable of anything so cruel such as the “Final Solution” and Genocide until it’s too late and already occurring.

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#1.46 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

Is it just me, or that "presentation"of the bomb that Netanyahu is showing looks like something out of 3rd grade

Have you seen most of the UN representatives.............3rd grade may be to high for them.

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#1.47 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

Why do liberals hate Jews so much? Anti-Semites.

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#1.48 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

Irespond.

You are absolutely right. He is a BULLY. e stunts made him look like an amateur talking down to the US and the UN.

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#1.49 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

Some of you posting in here believe that the threats made by Iran against Israel are fictitious, or light hearted in their intent. I would color you all as fools and suggest that you spend some time in Israel once Iran has made a nuclear bomb. These threats are real and meant to provoke fear into the hearts of the Israeli's

There is nothing in this world more threatening than a religious zealot and the Iranian nation is run and controlled by an entire council of religious zealots. Each of which has expressed through their president that Israel needs to be eliminated. In the words of Ahmadinejad, "Israel needs to be wiped from the face of the earth." What more does the world need to show that Iran has ill intent for Israel.

As far as Israel going it alone, that's not going to happen. Some of you will ask, "why not?", and the simple answer is that you don't leave your friends when they need you the most. Israel is our ally and though it doesn't mean much to most of you, they are our friends and we have agreed, as they agreed, that we will support each other when times get tough. The other reason is that Iran is a threat. They are a threat to Israel and they are a threat to the United States and if we ignore that threat we are opening ourselves up to another 9/11. It would take one Iranian, carrying one small suitcase, packed with a small amount of nuclear material to wipe out thousands of people in this country. That one Iranian could walk across any of our borders carrying that suitcase and we would be powerless to stop it from happening. Hell, we wouldn't even know they were here, or they may be here already. But, let's say for the sake of argument that Iran wouldn't dream of doing such a thing to a country that they openly despise. Let's say instead that they just sell some of that enriched uranium to someone else. How bout we say they sell it to Al-Qaeda instead. What do you think the outcome of that transaction will be? You won't see AL-Qaeda sneaking across our border either, but you can bet your bottom dollar that they will.

Last I want to address all of you that think our nation frugally pours billions of dollars into Israel with no return. You got your facts wrong. Israel gets a very lucrative weapons package from us and for this package, Israel pays a very hefty sum of money to us. We are the arms dealer and Israel is the very wealthy arms buyer and because they are an ally we offer them the top of the line weapons. That is the deal that the U.S. has with Israel. Does Israel get some money from the United States? It would be my guess that they do, but last I checked we gave billions more to China for favored nation status and got absolutely nothing back from them, so why aren't you bitching about that?

  • 14 votes
#1.50 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

I wonder if Mitt does get elected and attacks Iran, will his sons get deferments to bike ride across France like he did for 7 years during Vietnam ?

hmmmmmm I wonder ....

  • 15 votes
#1.51 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

Rational,

What branch of the military did Obama serve in again?

  • 15 votes
#1.52 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

Excuse Me? Are you suggesting in your blase tone, that Israel should launch a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran? Gulp, and egad!

Any nuclear attack on this planet, isn't an attack on a single country or regime, but an attack on the entire Human Race. The nuclear fallout that would be wafted high into the atmosphere would circle the Earth many times, impacting all--Human, animal, and vegetable. A disaster.

A question: Why is Israel at the seat of all complaints coming from the Theocracies of the Middle East?

Answer: It isn't about Israel, but it is about spreading Islam throughout the entire region and then, into Europe and the Americas.

The reality: There are about 2.5-Billion Christians on the planet. There are about 1.5-Billion Muslims on the planet. There are about 18-Million Jews (many non-practicing) on the planet.

So, how is Israel a problem? The answer is, that Israel isn't the problem at all, but the beginning of a campaign to wipe out all that is not Islam.

Wake up to the disaster that has begun in the Middle East. The Arab Spring, that your President stamp-approved of, and then turned his face away as extremist Muslim groups took over each country.

Did you see the image of Ambassador Stevens? Yes, the one that MSN didn't show, nor did many other liberal media. It was an image of Mr. Stevens being dragged by the neck, seated, across the bare ground at the hands of an angry mob (they took his picture for us). His eyes were still open, a look of total hopelessness and abandonment on his face. I don't believe that he was already dead of smoke inhilation. You are being lied to. Tell Obama to come clean.

This is bad......it is very, very bad for every Human Being on the planet. Not just an Israel-Iran issue.

No, I am a Catholic.

  • 10 votes
#1.53 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

So...if the Conservatives get so bent out of shape when we announce a deadline for an exit strategy, then why do they want to draw a red line to announce when we would start military action? Doesn't that just tell Iran when it needs to make a preemptive strike?

  • 5 votes
#1.54 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:06 PM EDT
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Obama is giving the olive branch to Iran , and waiting for Iran be our friend, that is the most dumbest foreign policy after Carter. Iran has no respect because the Chinese ans Russians are backing up Ajhmadenijad and our allies like France continue doing business as usual. Obama big fail to grab China and Russia to our side , no more respect to US , thanks to Obama , his pathetic tour of apology never work, Obama did not get more friends after he throw USA under the bus. Obama is a failure. He do not deserve to be reelected.

Obama order to kill Osama, AlQaeda kill the Ambassador in Libya , in a PLANNED TERRORIST ATTACK. Obama lie.

Romney 2012 Peace with Strength.

  • 10 votes
#1.55 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

No where in his dribble did I hear anything about changing their land grabbing ways to bring about peace!

  • 11 votes
#1.56 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

I can guarantee you that there is....a set deadline.......we of course would not know it. Just as we did not know that President Obama and Team America were busy taking out Bin Laden. Saber rattling is the course of all actions before the bluff is called. Sometimes the buffoon blinks...sometimes they don't. Every last ...safe...measure will be taken to keep peace. If the hammer has to fall, it wil be decisive. No mistake about it.

Romney's foreign policy during the Olympics prove he alienated our closest ally! DUURRR!

Ryan foreign policy...he can see Milwaukee from his window.

President Obama/Biden and Team America have been taking out pirates and terrorists one by one, including Bin Laden. You know the guy Bush gave up on,...You Know..the guy Romney said was too expensive to look for?...Yep that guy!

Vote President Obama/Biden for a stronger safer America 2012

IRISH 21......President OBAMA IS AT THE TOP OF THE MILITARY CHAIN....CALLED THE COMMMANDER IN CHIEF! How is that service for ya? Can't serve any higher! Mitt still ran away like a coward.

  • 8 votes
#1.57 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

Obama never dodged a draft by playing missionary in France. Romney did!

  • 10 votes
#1.58 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

Did Netanyahu ever ask for the United States help at the UN if they were to bomb Nuclear Facilities in Iran. It was a Warning to other non committal Arab Representatives. Netanyahu, is a brilliant Military Star, (Gulf War/Herbert Walker Bush)--he has a brilliant mind and can assess a life-threatening situation. Ahdinemajad has been given 4 more years of perfecting a nuclear bomb..

Never forget, Israel does not depend on the United States anymore, because of the Broken Relationship with the US Administration now in office..

If there is such a War over Iran, it will spill Radiation into all other Middle East/N.African Countries. He asked the UN if they wanted this scenario. Everyone is affected.

The US is now in Iran's Hands, because they are in Charge of the Middle East--the latest being the Terrorist Attack finally acknowledged by our Government in Libya on September 11th.

The US needs to gain control again over other countries threatening us, and Iran once again always has threatened to "Wipe America off the face of the Map" as well.

This situation cannot be ignored, but addressed. Do you want to be bombed by Iran with Nuclear Warheads?

  • 6 votes
#1.59 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

That is because he never filled out a selective service agreement. He was too busy getting coked up.

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#1.60 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

Why do liberals hate Jews so much? Anti-Semites.

Lol! Now look, fellow posters - Exhibit A - and frame this gem!

You just have to love how people label you a "Jew Hater", a filthy "Anti-Semite", or a "bigot" just because you want the United States to be left alone, and keep it's nose out of other countries' affairs, are sick of asinine wars, don't want to start WW3 and a nuclear holocaust, and most of all - want to focus on our OWN DAMN business here at home.

A classic, isn't it??????

I guess if that makes me an anti-Semite, well - sign me up. You who are labeling us - send your a$$ and your kids, off to duke it out with Iran, okay?? Let us know how you make out, okay????

<Hands up in the air, hips swaying in the wind> Yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  • 11 votes
#1.61 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

oskar-1391552 ... with your photo ... do you really think anyone higher than an idiot would care what you write. The hate that spills from you is for all to see ........

Peace through hate will not work ............

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#1.62 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

Hotticket,

I did that on purpose so I could show the hypocrisy on the left. Just like me saying I dont like Obama's policies I am called a racist. See how that works?

You also sound like you are afraid of Iran. Keep shaking ever time that nut job talks and let me know how that works out for you.

  • 2 votes
#1.63 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:16 PM EDT
  • Hey Netanyahu --- you've got nukes. If you want a war with Iran, you fight it.
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#1.64 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

News cover

newscover

No where in his dribble did I hear anything about changing their land grabbing ways to bring about peace.

  • #1.56 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:07 PM PDT

    Imagine that: Jews grabbing "Judea"

    Peace through hype won't work either.

    • 5 votes
    #1.65 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

    Ixor Kleb ... yeah ... I'd like to see the Native Americans start displacing a few folk in the U.S. and see how that pans out .........

    • 6 votes
    #1.66 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu demanded that a "clear red line" be set to stop Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon, telling the U.N. General Assembly that with a nuclear Iran, no one in the world would be safe.

    Netanyahu is full of @!$%#. Iran recently "claims" to have fired nuclear missiles with a range of 1800 miles, how does that make "no one in the world safe?" On the other hand, Israel has enough nuclear weapons/missiles to destroy the world a number of times over, with ranges of up to 6500 miles.

    There is really something strange here when you have one country (Israel) with enough nuclear weapons to pound Iran, and God knows, anyone else, completely off the face of the earth, and they are worried about Iran getting "ONE" nuclear weapon.

    • 6 votes
    #1.67 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

    I guess Bibi thinks we are is his bitch. I still don't know why we give them 1.8Billion in military aid and 1.2 Billion in Humanitarian Aid? That not counting all the unsecured loans. Do they really need it? I don't think so considering they spend over 5 million in lobbing and campaign contributions every year. I say we cut of their Aid and force them to live with the Palestinians. These guys are really just another tribe of Arabs and they have not stopped acting like it. Christan's have been leaving Israel by the thousands not because of the Palestinians but because of the Jews (google it) harassing them. These are not good people. Isreal has been saying Iran is getting a nuke or has a nuke since the early 90's

    • 6 votes
    #1.68 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

    U.S. and British immorality has led directly to the current Iranian situation. The chickens have come home to roost in a big way.

    Remember all this started because the United States and Britain overthrew a democratically elected secular and benign Iranian government just because they wanted to keep ripping off the Iranian people by preventing them from profiting from their own oil reserves. The British refused Iranian audits of their petroleum business on Iranian soil and refused to give the Iranians profits of more than 16% of total profits. This and the overthrow of the democratically elected government to force authoritarian rule created a strong enmity towards the US and eventually but directly led to the takeover of the Iranian government by radical Shiites.

    Now the U.S. is whining about Iran. Iran may indeed be dangerous enough to stop, but don't ever forget that today's Iran was created by the United States and Britain.

    • 9 votes
    #1.69 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

    Netanyahu reminded me of Ahmadinejad with that wily coyote bomb he's pointing at- way bettter dressser, though.

    President Obama offfers the best chance for peace in the Midddle East as he will not be tricked into fooolish military adventures. THe diplomacy route has worked thus far as Iran without a nuclear weapon atttests to.

    • 7 votes
    #1.70 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

    Wow i cant believe how many stupid people that have posted already, really you want Iran to have a Nuke, you think thats okay for a country that wouldnt have a problem launching it without thinking, If your an American and doesnt care, get the hell out of my country cause your not smart enough to be an American, And Before you slander me, I was a Soldier for 8 1/2 years before a Car Accident took me out of the Service, Ive been deployed several times, you want a Insane person with a Nuke at his Finger tips then get ready the world will end, We already have a Nutjob in the White House that wants the US to fail and Be on Govt Asst. we really dont need a crazy idiot blowing up countries because there not muslim, wake up idiots dont you see that. Or are you too damn worried about your own needs to worry about someone else. If so you also need to leave this Country cause we dont need people like you also, We used to be United but now were divided more than ever. United we stand divided we fall. keep it up and we will also Fall.

    • 8 votes
    #1.71 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

    Just like me saying I don't like Obama's policies I am called a racist. See how that works?

    Hey Irish, I'M not wild about many of Obama's policies either. Doesn't mean I want World War 3, though. He's dead right on THIS issue.

    You sound like you're afraid of Iran.

    Nope. Are you? Posting from under your mommy's bed again? It's not what Iran might be doing THERE that I'm afraid of nearly as much as the warmongering hounds that could get behind the button HERE. They scare me more. Nice try, though.

    • 10 votes
    #1.72 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

    Israel is in the Middle East. If they want to make sure there are no nuclear bombs in the Middle East, then they have to destroy their nuke arsenal of over 200 nukes. If they want to attack Iran, then let them do it. No other country wants any part of that. If they lose the war as they did to Hezbolah, the results will be more damaging and no one is coming in to help them. They are the bullies and they are scared to death that another country would have nukes like they do. They have caused the whole wporld more trouble than any other nation or ethnic people. The United States is not sending their children to die for Israel in middle east. Solve your own problems.

    • 9 votes
    #1.73 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

    @gridlock-2307416 , one thing's for sure ! you're not a veteran ? and I will tell you as Vet , but not a grunt vet , as someone who worked in one of the USAF flightline specialties....your even lower than a REMF in accounting with a purple heart for a paper cut...you're a chicken hawk of the 1st order...and are all for war , as long as someone else gets to do the dirty work for you to satisify your faux macho blood lust...yeah , and on the flightline ya' got dirty...and from personal experience of meeting people from Iran while I was in the USAF the 1 st time in AF tech school some of their future ramp tramps we got to know a little ...guess what genious ? they're no different than us...I also did a TDY too Shahrokhi AFB in Iran in 1978 when the shah was in power...it was good 2 weeks we had there...tho I will say the shah was a bit out of control with his police from the conversations I had with the Iranians/Persians and that was his fatal mistake for if he llightened up well his family would most like would've still been ruling.....and you and others talk of nukin' em to glass...why ?..do you have any concept of what a nuke looks like feels like its metallic smell tell ya' what they even look scary nestled up in a weapons bay...I would work once in awhile in an NATO alert area...the no alone zone , so I know 1st hand.. and yet.you propose to kill untold #'s of innocent people who probably have nothing to do with gov't policies like most of us people who have the same feelings dreams and aspirations in their respective cultures as anyone else ...and its not to die a martyr....do you realise probably when 1 nuke goes off , no matter who is the 1st to do it...more are going to go off and if you think the USA will go unscathed ?...do you really want to bet your hometown USA to be glass too ?...I really feel sorry for you chicken hawks , because you're all so really yellow & ignorant when you speak of going to war...its not a movie or a TV documentary their butch and rarely fixes a problem without manifesting new ones

    • 5 votes
    #1.74 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

    Obama is allowing the Muslim Brotherhood to take control and totally surround Israel. One strike in the USA will take out Rhode Island. One strike in Israel will take out the entire country. Bibi will never trust Obama and who can blame him.

    • 10 votes
    #1.75 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

    JM,Obama told him when he thought he was off mic," I'll take care of this after the election". Pretty bold a$$ talk but typical Obama, by not making a decision either way. And when he's not re-elected it'll be Romney's problem. With Bubba Clinton in the peanut gallery saying,"This is the Republican's doing, you shoulda re-elected Obama he'd a fixed it,or elect my wife in '16"! But this Isreali situation has been going on forever. Back in the Cold War days we needed Isreal's location to base our troops against Russia. The U.S. put up with a lot of $hit with the Isreali stubborness and inability to get along with it's nieghbors,that's putting it mildly. And Yassar Arafat was a jacka$$,too. Khrushchev played the same game on the U.S. with Castro in Cuba. Cuba was nothing more than a conduit for the Soviet Union, like Isreal to the U.S. Since our Republican hero Ronald Reagan brought down the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Commie threat diluted, weve grown colder to Isreal. So what was Barack Obama's highlight of the day on the campaign trail in regard to this? The White House is happy about the news that the Pro Football Referee Strike is settled! Yeah buddy, this President sure has a pulse on what's relavent. The press asked Mitt Romney his response and he was not yet aware the strike was settled? That was the correct answer. No one but a Packer fan would care if the Ref's Strike was over! So how is Obama going to handle Isreal,like so many President's before him tried? Who know's? Because this "Chess Player" is shooting Craps!

    • 4 votes
    #1.76 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

    Oh yea...thats what we need, lets fight another nations holy war, how sad and pathetic.

    For those of you who support this...please feel free to grab a rifle and head on over.

    But we dont need to send our sons and daughters over across the pond to fight a holy war thats not our problem.

    • 6 votes
    #1.77 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

    Britain and the United States could have easily lived with an Iran taking its fair share of oil profits. Because of their rapacious greed they went out of their way to make Iran an enemy in order to outright steal Iranian oil. If it weren't for this, Iran would be somewhat like Turkey, with a Muslim majority but a fairly respectful secular government that would have been a great friend of the west.

    • 3 votes
    #1.78 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

    Obama never dodged a draft by playing missionary in France. Romney did!

    Really? And what branch of the military did Obama serve in? That's right, NONE! He was too busy smoking dope and socializing with radicals!

    • 7 votes
    #1.79 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

    Such fools!

    Iranian official says Iran will strike U.S., Israel if attacked

    Deputy Interior Minister says Iran can 'fire tens of thousands of missiles,' strike U.S., Israel anywhere.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/iranian-official-says-iran-will-strike-u-s-israel-if-attacked-1.218991

    • 6 votes
    #1.80 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

    I wish this guy (Netanyahu) would just give it a rest... so now he wants us to tell him just how for he can go... so he can cross the line... all he's trying to do is influence our elections, I'm surprised that his own people continue to put up with his sh$#.

    Irish 21

    Why do liberals hate Jews so much? Anti-Semites.

    #1.48 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:56 PM CDT

    The better question is why do Conservatives always want to fight other folks wars ? Maybe Israel needs to look in a mirror and ask itself that question. And because we don't agree does not make us Anti-Semites... are you an anti-Islam or anti-Muslim?

    • 7 votes
    #1.81 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

    The situational ignorance in a number of these posts is appalling!

    These events are all part of a complex set of middle eastern dynamics. Unfortunately,many Americans seem totally unaware that the vast majority of Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. The definition of an infidel is a 'non-believer?'

    In the event some liberals may fail to understand the significance of that Islamic command, all followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of their faith so they can have a place in heaven. In effect they have been COMMANDED TO KILL EVERYONE in this chat who is not a Muslim.

    Islam's Sharia Law which promotes a prime directive found in the Koran ordering followers to:"Seek out, find and kill all non-believers." Muslims are overtaking and destroying countries like France, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Sweden and the United Kingdom. It is this very Sharia Law that dictates beheading, female genital mutilation, stoning of women for adultery, honor killings, forced and arranged marriages, women cannot leave their house without a family male escort, separated swim times at pools for males and females and complete subjugation of women by men.

    All homosexuals are to be killed. Abortion is haram and not allowed in Islam, but Muslims are allowed to kill their daughter if she refuses to marry the man they had chosen for her. Muslims also hold to a belief that that it is permissible to steal money and property from non-Muslims in order to distribute it, but if they steal from each other the offender's hands are to be cut off.

    The challenges for America are obvious. Time is running out for a diplomatic solution to the nuclear program that Israel regards as an existential threat. We’ve come to a very critical juncture where important decisions do have to be made. Iranian leaders have given “no sign of reacting” to sanctions and “no sign of showing flexibility at the negotiating table! A nuclear-armed Iran would be able to “commit incalculable atrocities” and that the window for diplomacy to avert that “is now almost closed.”

    America has reached the tipping point in a global conflict in which victory for freedom over world tyranny lays in the balance! Iran is one step away from establishing a nuclear terrorist
    empire. In reality, the greatest threat to our nation and the free world is now Iran and Obama‘s foreign policy.

    Once Iran has nuclear weapons, THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THEY WILL USE THEM AGAINST Israel ISRAEL, AMERICA and AMERICAN INTRESTS AROUND THE WORLD! Those in the intelligence community say “End this dangerous game. Destroy Iran’s terrorist nuclear facilities now. America, Israel, and the Free World will not survive a nuclear-armed Iran.“

    THE MORE POORLY INFORMED say the threat of a counter attack that will ultimately destroy Iran will hold them in check. However, experts in understanding radical Islam suggest Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, hopes to use a nuclear war in a misguided and mentally unbalanced effort to set in motion the return of the 12th Imam.

    “There is a RADICAL DIFFERENCE between the Islamic Republic of Iran and other governments with nuclear weapons. This difference is expressed in what can only be described as the apocalyptic worldview of Iran’s present rulers.” In other words, Iran doesn’t fear retaliation if they attack Israel or the United States because a final global struggle against an evil enemy will present them with the privileges of martyrdom as taught in Islam.”

    DEATH IS NOT A DETERRENT!. Ahmadinejad seems to believe “that the hand of God is guiding him to trigger a series of cataclysmic events which could precipitate the return of the 12th Imam and that these cataclysmic events to prepare the way for Shiite Muslims’ awaited messiah.

    This is why many in the intelligence community believe Obama‘s misguided and weak foreign policy combined with what is perceived to be mentally unbalanced leadership in Iran, presents the greatest threat to our nation and the free world in our history! Without strong leadership in the Whitehouse and unless we face Iran now, it is suggested it will not much matter who will be President in 2013.

    IT WOULD SERVE AMERICAS WELL IF THEY IGNORED THE ILL-INFORMED IN THIS CHAT!

    • 7 votes
    #1.82 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

    Great! Just imagine, all I have to worry about on a daily basis is to make sure I don’t forget to take trash out or where I left the slippers the previous night.

    Yet readily, when it comes to Israel, I suddenly become an expert on issues I know very little about, NOT!

    Netanyahu on the other hand has to face the reality of Iran openly threatening to wipe his country off the surface of the earth. I wonder what we would do if we were in his position?? I can’t answer that question, can you?

    • 4 votes
    #1.83 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

    82AllAmericans....wrote :The better question is why do Conservatives always want to fight other folks wars ?"

    starsailor >raises right hand high in the air....Oh ...!! Oh !! I know this answer!.......Republicons like the War profits the rich can skim off off the government like in Iraq! You know .....like How Cheney's buddies arranged to have Haliburton(Cheney's company) get no bid contracts! 17 of 24 of Romney's advisers are from that same Bush/Cheney regime......just licking their chops hoping to get Romney elected so they can repeat the Iraq lie into war for profits!

    • 7 votes
    #1.84 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

    @ Clear VOice:

    Time for your MEDS!!!!!

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    #1.85 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

    We take out Iraq now Iran is threat so after we take Iran who's next? BS!

    I thought north Korea having the bomb was the end of everything as we know it.

    Send ur children leave mine alone.

    • 8 votes
    #1.86 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

    Ahmadinejad Embraces Jews, Rejects Zionism:

    http://youtu.be/_Kp8t0fz3cE

    The truth will set us all free, and democrat nor republican offer any truth.

    • 4 votes
    #1.87 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

    Does anyone really think that Iran will listen to the US even if we did draw a "red line"?
    This is like having a deranged person threaten you with a gun when you have a gun that is far more powerful. Chances are much higher that deranged guy will fire first no matter what you say.....BECAUSE he is deranged, and you are of sound mind.
    There is no reasoning with people who are making decisions not based upon reason.
    In this case, IMO it is very likely a that a red line is like the red flag with a bull, more apt to cause the very problem everyone wants to avoid.
    That said, we as mere citizens have maybe 5% at most of the information necessary to come to a conclusion that is based upon all of the facts.
    Since we are missing most of what is needed to do so, this is nothing more than speculation at best.
    Last but least, war with Iran would have a huge chance of becoming nuclear, so it pretty much seems a no win for anyone if they are committed to pushing that button.

    • 1 vote
    #1.88 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

    irish 21 , funny thing is a good percentage of the liberals are Jewish..explain that one to me ?...or is your new word of the day at school "anti-semite" and you thought you would banty it about to seem smart...I think you probably fall into my previous rant on chicken hawks too...when where and what branch did you serve in ? I know you wore the blue beret of the ground hog scout troops and were a team leader and were awarded the rank of dweeblo after recieving the the grades of pigeon , turtle and musk rat and recieving numerous gold & silver pins ..oorahrah !!..shish koomb bah !!.but that doesn't count..and besides niether of these 2 running for POTUS is worthy of the job they both suck eggs IMO as well as congress and the senate they're all monumentally failing our nation

    • 3 votes
    #1.89 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

    "War is like the political parties in the U.S. ... a thing best left behind in history... as a reminder of mankinds stupidity to allow sick old men to order young men and woman to kill citizens in other countries. Time to show that peace and cooperation is the start to fixing problems in this world."

    • 5 votes
    #1.90 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

    @RalphH

    Netanyahu is a clown, intent on getting the US to attack Iran, a country which has not attacked another in almost 200 years. That is a stirling record.

    Where were you in 1979 when they attacked and took control of our embassy? Attacking an embassy of a soverign nation under your protectorate has always been an act of war. Although it's rarely enforced now, it is still looked upon as an unacceptable act of agression. And one which could easily, and rightfully, lead to war.

    • 4 votes
    #1.91 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

    IT WOULD SERVE AMERICAS WELL IF THEY IGNORED THE ILL-INFORMED IN THIS CHAT!

    I'm thinking you mean ignore you? Just last week the former head of Israel's version of the "CIA" was on 60 minutes. He led it for over a decade, was well known to be violent and ruthless and he concludes that Iran is not that close and we have time for other methods that will probably work.

    He did say however, that we (the US) would be the preferred party to go to war with Iran. Yea...right.

    Mr. Nethanyahu, we have seen this dog and pony show in front of the U.N before ( about 10 years ago or so). Someone else was CERTAIN that some country had "weapons of mass destruction" and that we needed to act right away. A few hundred billion dollars later, 500,000+ lives lost (about 3,000 of our own and well over 500,000 of the local, mostly innocent population), oops, we we were wrong. I for one am not buying it. I wasn't fooled then either, but I'm hoping that the rest of the population isn't fooled again.

    To the rest of you who are buying this: are you really that #$%@# stupid? We JUST HAD THIS HAPPEN!! You know how this story goes if we go to war. A bunch of people die, a bunch of money spent and we find nothing. And guess what happens next? Israel or somebody hears about ANOTHER country - then we bomb them too and find nothing. If Iran really wanted Nukes...REALLY wanted Nukes and everyone in that region was as evil as we make them out to be then they would have bought some (or gotten some for free) from Pakistan. Or maybe they'd find some of the old Soviet warheads still hanging around. But this also reminds me...I know a guy that can get you a great deal on bridges. Now is the time to buy! Interest rates are at an all time low

    • 10 votes
    #1.92 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

    I personally don't give a rat's ass about Israel or Iran. As far as I am concerned as long as we are sending Israel "AID" money, they just need to shut up. When they are ready to pony up for what a war with Iran would cost us at 500% markup, then maybe we should talk. Otherwise they need to put on their big girl panties and deal with it.

    • 5 votes
    #1.93 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

    I agree with Matthew. Let's sit by and do nothing hoping Iran wisely decides not to use one of their missiles for fear of retaliation. The Middle East has shown they are afraid to die for their beliefs. LOL

      #1.94 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

      OneMore-4211487

      @RalphH

      Netanyahu is a clown, intent on getting the US to attack Iran, a country which has not attacked another in almost 200 years. That is a stirling record.

      Where were you in 1979 when they attacked and took control of our embassy? Attacking an embassy of a soverign nation under your protectorate has always been an act of war. Although it's rarely enforced now, it is still looked upon as an unacceptable act of agression. And one which could easily, and rightfully, lead to war.

      That's called blow back for us (the CIA) who interfered with their democratic elections in the 50's. History repeats itself but the warmongers do their best to twist it to their agendas.

      Peace with all.

      • 3 votes
      #1.95 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:01 PM EDT

      5115 to 1 or even to 4 to 1, yeah thats a fair fight.

      5115, the number of Nukes the US owns vs the 1 Iran may have.. 4 is the number Israel has, and 1 maybe for Iran.. So who is the bigger threat? Iran of course. LMAO

      BiBi is unstable. The entire nation of Israel is unstable. They are nation of total fanatics who beLIEve that the entire Middle-East is their land. BS.. They are the problem with peace in the Middle-East. Until Israel stops their terrorist activities on Palestine and other nations, including the United States. Massod & 9-11 should be investigated.

      Can someone explain to me why Israel can have nukes but not Iran? Isn't Iran a sovereign nation? Also why do we give $3-$4 Billion a year and weapons to that bastard child Israel? Didn't America save them during WW2..

      • 2 votes
      #1.96 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

      newscover

      oskar-1391552 ... with your photo ... do you really think anyone higher than an idiot would care what you write.

      You do , that make you a higher idiot.

      Peace through hate will not work

      Reagan defeat Kremlin and turn down the Berlin wall. With strength , without a war. Carter did nothing. Obama like Carter is another appeaser, weak and lead from behind. Obama let down the Embassy of Libya and still lie about the non existence of a planned terrorist attack.

      • 3 votes
      #1.97 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:07 PM EDT

      See this is what you DemocRATS think leave them alone and they wont bother us well we tried that and it don't work you people need to get a back bone and stop being wimps If it takes doing something to stop Iran now for my kids don't have to deal with them later then so be it This country was built on not backing down and I fill most Americans fill the same way but their is always going to be the one that think do nothing and they will stay a way WRONG THEY DO NOT LIKE YOU AND THEY WANT TO KILL YOU WAKE THE F--- UP THIS IS FOR YOU DEMOCRATS BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO LIKE THIS KIND OF STUFF

      • 3 votes
      #1.98 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

      starsailing, GET SOME NEW MATERIAL! You've been copying, pasting, and changing a few words here and there for days now. Your sh!t is getting VERY old. You're not half as smart as you think!

      • 4 votes
      #1.99 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

      BiBi is unstable. The entire nation of Israel is unstable. They are nation of total fanatics who beLIEve that the entire Middle-East is their land. BS.. They are the problem with peace in the Middle-East.

      Travel

      You are an ignorant Israel was attack two times, did you ever learn about the 7 days war. Israel has reasons to very worry about Iran, and also some his unfriendly neighbors , specially Egypt where Obama support a terrorist group , the Muslim Brotherhood.

      • 2 votes
      #1.100 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

      When I read Leviticus, Numbers, or Deuterotomy I am aghast at the Genocides commited by the early Jews. Joshua rolled over the people of Canaan. I can't understand how the Jewish people lament their own horror at the hands of others, yet celibrate the horror committed by their own against others.

      "Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man." (Numbers 31:17-18)

      A choice verse among many.

      I suppose the Jews have largely abandoned the ancient bellicose manifestations of their religion, and enjoined and even led the modern world, but then they look back at their torrid past with a romantic gleam in their eye. Perhaps they should simply look forward, lest they be judged as hypocrits.

      • 2 votes
      #1.101 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

      If Benji wants to draw a red line, fine but leave us out of it.

      To attack another country before you have been attacked is aggression, and should be punished no matter which country does it.

      If they do attack Iran, it will not be long before a warhead from Pakistan (about 12 kilotons) gets into Iranian hands, think Hiroshima.

      America's blind allegiance to Israel, pushed by only 2.4% of the population, has marked it as a target (9/11) and if Israel attacks Iran, it will up the ante tremendously.

      • 4 votes
      #1.102 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:23 PM EDT

      Everybody here comparing Romney and Obama's lack of military service are creating a false equivalency. Willard Romney and George Bush were in their twenties during Vietnam. By the mid to late 60's the war in Vietnam was becoming a meat grinder. With no hope of fighting the war with a volunteer army the US instituted a "wartime" draft to sufficiently fill the ranks of the Army. ( There were no people drafted into the other services ). Every man eligible for the draft, seeing what was happening in Nam, scrambled to avoid the draft.

      Unlike Iraq, during Nam National Guard units were not, and would not be, sent to Vietnam and there was a mad scramble to join a state's National Guard. Of course all Guard units were full and you could not buy your way into the Guard. Some young men had families with power and influence however and were able to get their sons into Guard units or draft deferments. Chickenhawk cowards such as George W.Bush, (Texas) Dan Quale (Indiana) and Steve Forbes (Connecticut) were able to hide out in their state's National Guard and Willard Romney was able to flee the country as a "religious missionary", all to avoid getting their white boy asses sent to Nam. It was war time and they AVOIDED the American military draft!!

      Barack Obama was 8 years old in 1969. In 16th century England that was old enough to go to war but in 20th century America, not so much. By the time he was of draft age there was no draft and the US had reverted to a more robust volunteer Army. Obama, while never volunteering, also did not avoid his nation's wartime draft.

      To me there is no lower form of human being than a man who agitates or advocates for war but lacks the courage to go and fight in that war. The republikan party is FULL of men like this. John McCain is a rarity to be sure. Romney on the other hand, is a perfect example of this type of cowardice. I remind you that while Obama's grandfather fought in WW2 none, NOT ONE of Romney's male family members ever served in the American military and he has made it clear that NOT ONE of his five sons will break that tradition.

      An admission: My father was in the US navy during WW2 and I, being a typical anti war hippie, was a very lucky draft dodger during Vietnam. I was scared @!$%#less that I would be drafted like every other college aged white boy. Like another draft dodger, Dick Cheney, I was able to hide from the monster jaws of the killing monster that was Vietnam with as many draft deferments as possible. I can live with this but I will NOT live under a raging coward like the chickenhawk Romney.

      • 7 votes
      #1.103 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

      newscover

      Ixor Kleb ... yeah ... I'd like to see the Native Americans start displacing a few folk in the U.S. and see how that pans out .........

      • 4

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      #1.66- Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:23 PM PDT

      Yep they do. And it is working out just fine. I have an American Native as a neighbor.Their family they displaced an Arab family (had a carpet business) that lived there for a bit previously. They moved back to Egypt I think. Native Americans can buy a house here or anywhere in the US. Their business are doing great here (except for the native art store on Holly St). Elsewhere in my county. In fact they rent to whites living on Res land. We celebrate Stommish together.
      The Gazans (pop 1,600,000 arabs) had a mere 8000 Jews living there. You would call them "settlers". They were ethinically cleansed (including graves) due to popular demand. The deed was carried out with Israelli Bulldozers. (The same kind that Rachael Corrie jumped in front of after clamering down into the trench. The palestinian "Natives" were to smart for that @!$%#e so they stood and watched instead)not just a house here or there but entire jewish villages. Sorry!* settlements....Gaza launched bombs into Israel the very next day.
      On the West Bank Arabs have made it clear that once they have their state that there will not be a single Jew left there. They(Abu Mazen) last year around this time of year also made it clear that they would not recognize a Jewish neighboring State.

      * I'm not really sorry

      • 4 votes
      #1.104 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:59 PM EDT

      Gridlock, option 3 is the ONLY way to go, and then we simply let them remain in the bombed-out, stone-age condition for a few decades. No ____ing nation-building garbage form us for these nutcases!

      • 1 vote
      #1.105 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:51 PM EDT

      After reading ALL the comments to this point...... I see many who REALLY have NO CLUE, SOME who understand a little and THEN there are those such as ME....NO ONE LIKES the thought of war---WAR is as has been said total HELL on earth--the sights,smells of a firefight at close quarters is something that I pray my grandsons and ALL here NEVER have to endure........NO one likes WAR---

      IRAN is very close to having a nuke--EVEN a SMALL one set off in say NEW YORK CITY--say 1KT---would destroy that city--and most in it....IRAN,N.KOREA..are rogue nations--unpredictable--WE KNOW N.KOREA has nukes--and with the NEW top dog there the KID---maybe JUST maybe N.KOREA is willing to JOIN the rest of the world.

      IRAN on teh other hand is ruled by fanatics--who believe in a SO CALLED RELIGION that is about WORLD DOMINATION--others tried this in modern history...HITLER...STALIN..to name a few and LOOK at the MILLIONS who died---

      ISRAEL has been around LONGER than dirt--3000years give or take a few hundred....HAS a right to exist in peace as we all do---IRAN sees ISRAEL as a stepping stone to the MUSLIM world rule---HITLER in WWII had MUSLIM SS units both in EUROPE and in the MIDDLE EAST--THEIR job was the same--KILL THE JEWS.

      AFTER WWII and the formation of the State of ISRAEL---those who were left in Europe not all but many came back to the M.E.--and made Israel their home WHEN ISRAEL was formed they coined a MOTTO---"NEVER AGAIN" never again will they allow ANYONE to do as has been done to them before---Netanyahu in his speech said that in so many words---NEVER AGAIN---and those who DON'T take him seriously are making a very bad mistake.

      HE'S right---the WORLD and especially us--THE UNITED STATES can NOT allow IRAN to get a NUKE---

      UP to now we have put up with a CORRUPT ADMIN and PRESIDENT---Obama is a laughing stock due to his LIES---THE NEWEST is about the MURDER of our people in LIBYA---AND HE STILL is attempting to keep his LIES GOING to save face---There is a saying" YOU can trust a THIEF because you know he might steal from you---BUT you CAN NEVER TRUST a LIAR---because you NEVER KNOW when he is telling the TRUTH"

      MANY who I know in the INTEL field are saying that ISRAEL will go it alone if NEED BE BECAUSE THEY KNOW they CAN"T TRUST THE LIAR IN OUR WHITE HOUSE.

      WE all better hope and PRAY that IRAN is stopped short of a nuke and WE better hope that things can be done to INSURE that they never get one.....IF WE DON'T we are looking at the possibility of WWIII---and IT will NOT be pretty.

      • 3 votes
      #1.106 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

      Irish; you claimed liberals are anti Jew? Are you saying that the government of Israel and the Jewish faith are one in the same? Isn't that one of the Conservatives main complaints about Middle Eastern governments and the Muslim faith, that they are one in the same?

      This article is about what the leader of Israels government thinks - you brought in religion - you care to explain where you are going with your comments?

      I smellith a Troll.

      • 1 vote
      #1.107 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

      What is it about this Israel/Iran issue that brings so many quacks out of the woodwork? I've read through three pages of these posts and not one - NOT A SINGLE STINKING ONE - even comes close to presenting a sober, or reasoned string of thought.

      These boards really attract some of the worst people out there I think...

      • 2 votes
      #1.108 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:13 PM EDT

      Did We not go through this scenario ONCE BEFORE With KingGeorgeTheVacuumBrained and his Talmudic Zionist "Undersecretary" of Defense paul wolfowitz, now a WAR CRIMINAL, with their InFamous WMD Bull$H!T to the world as the excuse to attack Saddam and his two charming sons uzi and coozi.

      Listen netanyahu, please tell Americans how many "good jewish" boys from israel will fight for your country...That is correct 0, NADA, ZIP, None,while America gives of her fine Sons and Daughters which you jew bastards rudely call "goys".

      Your shoe shining anus kissing duo, MittTaxPittanceRommel and Lyin'Ryan, will of course, send off as many Young American Men and Women as needed for zionist cannon fodder, MINUS OF COURSE, HIS Darling sons who are being preened to be ripoff artists like "good ole dad".

      Hey netan: GO TO HELL with your war drums and beat them there. Once we totally dispose of your ScumPuppets republicanCrimeCartelSoldiers MittTaxPittanceRommel and EddiMunster aka Lyin'Ryan We can continue the job of healing OUR Country America. and get a new tie you look disgusting.

      • 3 votes
      #1.109 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

      The rulers of Iran are not suicidal. They know that uranium used in a bomb can be traced back to it's source. If they are indeed going to build a bomb, they would never use it, nor would it be likely to get into the hands of terrorists who would use it.

      They know if a nuclear detonation were traced back to them, their country would be vaporized. If they are like Pakistan in their deveolpment, the yield would be in the 12 kiloton(Hiroshima) range. US B-83 warheads set to max yield deliver 1.2 megatons of 1000 times the destructive power. America has 650 of these and the means to deliver them.

      Israel has 300-400 warheads but the yields are unknown. Their nuclear scientists have colaberated with their collegues in the US, so it is likely that some of their warheads are thermonuclear in the 350 kiloton range

        #1.110 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:47 PM EDT

        JS in SD, Gridlock, Jeff, David Noah, Hot ticket, funkwhatever, marchant, clarkson, osker, and all others who think like you people do. This is not my first time saying it--just look at my past posts. If you believe so much in Israel and support her in this course all you guys have to do is buy a plane ticket and head on over to the holy land and give Israel your support. Take you children with you too if you'd like. Open up your wallets. In other words, put you money and body's where you mouths are. Don't expect the rest of us to support Israel when we have so many U.S. citizens in need right here in our country. Cuf off all aid to all countries in the middle east & nearby, Israel, Egypt, Pakistan, etc. Stop whining like a bunch of little girls and do what a lot of foreigners did during the Spanish civil war. Talk is cheap. Walk the talk. Don't forget this tho, most Israelis don't want war (they're intelligent people) but they have a few warmongerers among them. Iran hasn't started a war in over 100 or 200 years. And ahmadinajab whatever his name is is not even popular among his own people. Btw, what do they call a person who supports another country at the expense of his own? So go on over to the other side of the world. bon voyage.

        • 1 vote
        #1.111 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:37 PM EDT

        Joe,

        Majority of USA supports Israel, and you don't get to expel majority. If you hate being surrounded by Israel-sympathizers so much, you are the one who should be leaving the country and going somewhere where more people agree with you, like Iran.

        • 1 vote
        #1.112 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:55 PM EDT

        Travis from Soviet Occupied New England - These boards really attract some of the worst people out there I think...

        You know it wasn't always like that. At one time Newsvine was "Get Smarter Here".

        Now all we get is people slinging emotive non factual opinionated manure all over the place.

        No more who, what, where, why, when, how, etc..

        Now Newsvine is Emotions not Logic, Opinions not Facts, Academics not Experience, Excuses not Results, Blame Game not Solutions, etc..

        It is just like my arguement with Coral Taxi, that I am winning; most Americans TOO LAZY to do the Research. Afghans knowing more about America than Americans.

        I have posted tests on Newsvine Forums, and most Americans Failed the most simple tests, and instead of answering the test questions started their typical name calling.

        • 2 votes
        #1.113 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:56 PM EDT

        What happens if Russia or China ALREADY SOLD THEM A NUKE? I almost wish they would so Netanyahu would STFU. How many years has Russia had its nukes pointed at us? When was the last time Iran started a war? I hear lots of talk from both sides, but talk is talk. If they are so crazy and radical why are they talking? Would they be crazy or radical had we not supported a dictator so we could get cheap oil? How many other dictators did we support to get cheap oil? Do as I say not as I do.

        Why did we know about Pearl Harbor, yet did nothing to stop it? Why did we know about 9/11 and did nothing to stop it? One would hope that any country smart enough to develop nukes would also have the intelligence not to use them. It is part of the learning curve. Until they attack or do something violent like invade Poland WTF?

        I still want to know why we give 5 to 6 billion in aid each year to Israel? With only 6 million people that is about 1000 dollars a year for each person there. I know it is "earmarked" for American products, but FREE IS STILL FREE. What does America produce? Weapons maybe? I wonder where they got all those planes, tanks, nukes, missiles, guns, etc. from hmm?

        Anti-semite...LOL. My brother is on course to start WW3 and I cannot say anything to stop him? I see the actions of my brother causing problems around the world and I cannot say anything? ONLY GOD IS INFALLIBLE, YOU ARE HUMAN, AND WILL FAIL. YOU MUST BE IN ERROR SOMETIME, NEVER FORGET THAT! HOW MANY TIMES HAS GOD HAD TO SMACK YOUR WRISTS?

        You are supposed to be the example to the world. What is this showing or teaching us?

          #1.114 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:03 AM EDT

          Yeah...peace sells but who's buying.

            #1.115 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:21 AM EDT

            Eli, I'm just pro-U.S.A. and anti-Israeli policy. Here in this country we need to take care of our own. If you want to support Israel that's your business but don't expect the rest of us to follow the propaganda. I know the truth hurts but I'm sure you're a big boy, so Live with it. Eli, that name sounds biblical?

            • 3 votes
            #1.116 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:26 AM EDT

            That's right Joe,

            It's my business, I have every right to support Israel as an American citizen.

            USA is a democracy, we both are entitled to our opinion, and we both get the same vote.

            You can hate Israel all you want, but don't expect the rest of us to follow the propaganda.

            If majority had agreed with you, I would not be happy about it, but I would accept it and deal with it, but it so happens that majority agrees with me, so you will have to accept it.

            I know the truth hurts, but I'm sure you are a big boy, so live with it.

            • 2 votes
            #1.117 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:42 AM EDT

            When you have a US President with the foreign policy understanding and naivete of a 5 yr old, a drawing is very appropriate. Too bad it still went over his head, maybe he should try crayons next time!

            • 2 votes
            #1.118 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:33 AM EDT

            How about drawing a clear red line on illegal Israeli settlements in West Bank? Cross that line and we bomb Tel Aviv?

            • 2 votes
            #1.119 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:27 AM EDT

            Another reason why Iran wouldn't be really insane enough to try anything. I personally haven't confirmed the validity of this, but here is an article purporting to show US bases in the region around Iran:

            http://www.juancole.com/2012/02/ring-of-iranian-bases-threatens-us.html

            Now tell me...can you look at that and tell me that anything you hear is based on any legitimate concerns?

              #1.120 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

              And may I ask where is President Obama and Billery Clinton? I know... worrying about his campaign.

                #1.121 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 10:07 AM EDT
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                Comment author avatarnothing new here-1200374Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                ...

                The president is missing a two-fur here.

                He could join Israel in a war effort against Iran which would:

                ...1. Get ALL of the Jewish vote and,

                ...2. Get us out of recession as did FDR when he got the U.S. into WWII.

                This is really a no-brainer.

                Obama / Biden in 2012.

                ...

                • 5 votes
                Reply#2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

                Yeah... no brainer, as in, you have no brain.

                Out of, let's say, 100 million voters in the US, how many are Jews? You can win ALL of them, as you said, and still get voted out in a landslide by everyone else you PO by getting us involved in another ME armed conflict.

                • 9 votes
                #2.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

                nothing new here-1200374......Does YOUR DECEITFULNESS know no bounds?

                nothing new here-1200374 Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:09 AM EDT Quote......And here I thought it was only the Republicans who would get scolded for accepting campaign money from whoever. Whoops - I guess it is anyone who crosses Obama, Reid, Pelosi & Co. ….......EndQuote

                You are NOT A DEMOCRAT. You are a desperate and disgusting GOPeaParty pretender.

                • 6 votes
                #2.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

                ...

                You are anti semetic and clearly out of touch with the economy and with the genius of both FDR and the president.

                Obaba / Biden in 2012.

                ...

                • 3 votes
                #2.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                Yeah, because the last two wars really spurred the economy right? WWII was a much different war. It had a clear objective against an enemy that didn't hide among the citizens. And, we had just has much support by the people to defeat Germany. Japan was different, and we had to use nuclear weapons to end that front, an option that realistically is not feasible in this day and age. If we want to save the economy, we need to end our action in Afghanistan, get our troops home and let the world police itself for a while.

                • 8 votes
                #2.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                Yeah, well I hope your son or daughter gets sent there to make the two-fur work.

                • 2 votes
                #2.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

                Obama has said that he will not allow Iran to get nuclear weapons.

                • 2 votes
                #2.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

                IAN....

                You are so blind you don't recognize redemption.

                In spite of that...

                Obama / BIden in 2012.

                ...

                • 1 vote
                #2.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

                nothing new here-1200374......

                Since when is "redemption" a synonym for "phoney" ?

                Desperation has made you tawdry. Still, we (democrats) invite you to list the reasons you don't believe Romney should be elected.

                  #2.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                  Get us out of recession as did FDR when he got the U.S. into WWII.

                  The U.S. didn't recover for years after the end of the war. If you think glassing Iran for building nuclear weapons, while the IAEA has people on the ground telling us the opposite, then you're a fool. No more, no less.

                  • 3 votes
                  #2.9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                  That wont work. The jews like money! They will want tax breaks and cuts. I have lived around them for years. If they can save a buck they are all for it. God knows I love them but they got weaknesses.

                  • 1 vote
                  #2.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                  We cannot reason with the muslims, so just bomb them!

                  It appears that the seeds for
                  the ultimate revenge against Israel and America were firmly planted in the
                  fertile dark Moslem soil of Indonesia. Obama lived there from the
                  impressionable ages from six to ten years of age. He attended a Moslem school
                  and became a regular fixture at a local radical mosque. Barry’s favorite course
                  and sermons were “How to Defeat the Infidels.” Listed below is a copy of
                  Obama’s notes from this time on how to destroy the “Great and Little Satins.”
                  He could only dream at this time that he would become the greatest Islamic
                  warrior in the history of Jihad.

                  Obama’s
                  Islamic School Notes on destroying America:

                  1. Force your enemy
                  into financial oblivion with major budget deficits

                  2. Create a multi generational group totally dependent on the Government.

                  This Group known as the “Takers” will blindly support your Progressive Agenda.

                  3. Encourage open borders between the US and Mexico. Accuse any one against
                  this as racist. A country without borders cannot survive.

                  4. Form a separate civilian defense force as large and well funded as the US
                  Military. This is needed for any successful coup. You cannot trust the military
                  leaders, particularly in the United States to turn against its citizens.

                  5. At all cost, confiscate all weapons and ammo from the population. Leave them will no means to resist. They will
                  submit to your will. Create a crisis involving guns, and then
                  regulate/confiscate them. (Operation Fast and Furious)

                  6. Islam says a Muslim can lie or deceive the Infidels (Christians, Jews).
                  Say or do anything that will give you the advantage. Obama has mastered the art
                  of deception to a point that he cannot distinguish between the truth and his
                  lies. The Progressives hang on and believe his every utterance

                  7. Deny the country its vast natural resources. Attack all use of coal, natural
                  gas and oil. It will bankrupt America and leave behind vast riches for Islam.

                  8. Force the donors and supporters of your opposition to reveal themselves and
                  then blackmail, threaten and intimidate them into silence.

                  9. Deny Infidels all basic human rights.

                  The Muslim teachings and indoctrination would stay with Obama forever and be
                  critical in his quest for power and glory. It was now clear the path needed for
                  revenge. He must at all cost avenge his birthright and complete the jihad
                  against the “Great and Little Satan” (US and Israel).

                  • 3 votes
                  #2.11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

                  @naz,

                  It sounds like you're indoctrination happened with you're head up you're butt in a trailer park with the KKK. The President is a Christan you fool. Here is the Real Satin for you.

                  666=FOX news F=6, O (15th letter) 1+5=6, X (24th letter) 2+4=6.Total 666

                  • 2 votes
                  #2.12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

                  Can't we all get along my Satan's children.

                    #2.13 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:38 AM EDT
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                    Comment author avatarSandra-2020671Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Netanyahu is a real leader and makes Obama look like the pansy he is.

                    • 17 votes
                    #3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:43 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarRedstarRisingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    If Netanyahu was elected POTUS, the whole world would die from nuclear radiation. Jews are the cause of all wars and theft in the world.

                    • 13 votes
                    #3.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

                    Sandra, I would be a real leader too, if I could punch someone in the face and have the might of the US military to bail my ass out of the mess. No more US lives for nothing. If a war is going to be started in the middle east, we should do it on our terms, since we are a free nation.

                    • 15 votes
                    #3.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:48 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarAbdallah AbdallahExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Netanyahu is a real leader and makes Obama look like the pansy he is.

                    LOL.

                    Benji is a freaking liar, backstabbing, ungrateful so- called ally..

                    Obam is the real leader...

                    You are freaking idiot if you cannot see it, or you are a jew, or both..

                    • 12 votes
                    #3.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

                    and somehow I think you have two passports, so why don't you go there and live and if not you send your kids and you pay for it. We have these 2 really big oceans you see and a couple of thousand nukes, 11 aircraft carrier task forces, Iran is not a threat to us, what is a threat is us spending ourselves into decline which we are now doing. One passport and one country

                    • 3 votes
                    #3.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

                    There are any number of Jewish people who think Netanyahu is a POS. So please do not inject hatred of a religion into the issue. The point is that if Bibi wants war, let him do it himself.

                    • 6 votes
                    #3.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

                    Ok, lets send your kids and spill their blood. You ever see an 18 year old American kid die on a battlefield for someone else? If you had you would not be running at the mouth. Can you give us the name of the last three young Americans to die in Afghanistan? Want to call their mothers and explain why?

                    • 2 votes
                    #3.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

                    Funny how I get the impression lately that it's Bibi and his lackeys that want to make war and blow Iran off the map, and not the other way around.

                    • 9 votes
                    #3.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                    Wants to know is absolutely correct.

                    Not all Israelis are Zionists (i.e. Netanyahu).

                    Many Israelis view this PM much as we (democrats) viewed Bush/Cheney.

                    • 4 votes
                    #3.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                    Sandra...well spoken! It should be interesting to the entire world to note that Israel is a small country with a harsh climate, limited resources and yet has managed to become highly literate, very productive, develop a high quality of life, etc. etc. all the while surrounded by the illiterate, lazy, cruel and corrupt muslims who have accomplished none of this. Is there not a lesson here? And I would think that Israel is poised for a total retaliation against the ignorant muslims of Iran should they start something, and I agree, the world must never allow this hate filled corrupt nation to have a nuclear device.

                    • 3 votes
                    #3.9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                    Jews are the cause of all wars and theft in the world.

                    RedstarRising banned, bigotry later escalated into a straight-up call for genocide. Unacceptable.

                    • 11 votes
                    #3.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                    Sandra-2020671

                    Netanyahu is a real leader and makes Obama look like the pansy he is.

                    Sandy, Ahmadinejad said something that is very ture, if he has 1 Bomb and the US has 5000 what good is that going to do them, if he has 1 bomb and israel has 300 bombs what good is that going to do him.

                    truth is that israel want to be the only nation in that area the have a bomb, and that is not fair to everybody else there,

                    i honestly believe that iran wants one not for israel but to keep the US from invading like we invaded iraq!!!! after all they are right next door.

                    • 2 votes
                    #3.11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

                    Bibi is Jewish and obama is muslim

                      #3.12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

                      Jack - Israel is what it is because of our total support, Israel is totally dependent on us and now wants us to go to war for them - BS on your support for them.

                      • 1 vote
                      #3.13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                      Oh_no, why do I get the impression you're not old enough to remember a president before Clinton? Maybe it"s your ignorant comment. Yeah, that must be it!

                        #3.14 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

                        to sandra: not even worth a reply. Please return to primary school and graduate.

                          #3.15 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:54 PM EDT

                          Yeah sandra, Netanyahu is netin but a yahoo.

                            #3.16 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:28 AM EDT
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                            why do i need to get ALL MY NEWS from the 'daily mail" in the UK..... THEY REPORT ALL THE NEWS. good and bad about both candidates.....If you took a couple of days to check them out, you would see what the American media suppresses about Obama. According to them it's only blue skies above and I'm ready for love.

                            • 4 votes
                            #4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

                            To say otherwise about our Dear Leader is treasonous as well as racist.

                            • 2 votes
                            #4.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                            The Daily Mail is a CONSERVATIVE news paper. It is no more impartial than Fox News. Dispute that if you dare.

                            • 8 votes
                            #4.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                            The mainstream media here is in Obama's back pocket..and it's obvious. I watch all the network news including NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN and yes ...the dreaded FoxNews. Fox does tell it mostly like it is. They were on the Benghazi fiasco from the start where the other networks were eating the milk and honey out of Susan Rice, Jay Carney and Hillary's hands. It was disgusting.

                            Back to the story at hand. People, if you think Iran and Israel can have a war without us accepting an invitation, you're living in Never Never Land. If a nuke goes off, the world as we know it will cease to exist. It'll be like dropping a grenade in an elevator..nobody will come out without some severe damage. Iran doesn't want a nuke? Yeah, and I don't want to win the lottery. Get real. "Peace..only peace"...right.

                            • 6 votes
                            #4.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                            On all the medias there is not ONE owned by anybody in the USA. They are Conglomerates and only release news in the US with what they think we should be hearimg. They are mostly Republican Orented. Dan Rather wrote a book about GWB and in he he wrote about his missing time in the military, AWOL. He was admonished by NBC and after a point let go,Fired, because he would not retract the truth in his book.

                            • 6 votes
                            #4.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

                            I agree. I have to read the news from the UK too. There is so much stuff they report we never even hear about.

                            Our media is owned by big corporations..not Obama. Fox is the worst. And we thought the commies were bad lololol.

                            • 6 votes
                            #4.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                            Wow. with the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS the US gives to Israel and that's the best graphic this liar can come up with

                            • 2 votes
                            #4.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

                            If you want the news you really out to check out Glenn Becks internet news sight, The Blaze. Since YOU pay a small pittance to view it and no outside advertisers telling him what he can say and not say, you get the truth. You really need to find out how the muslim brotherhood has infiltrated out government on all levels. There is a 'city' in New York, and in other parts of America where acres of land have been bought buy Muslims and they are encouraged to move and live there. Non Muslims are not allowed. One can only imagine what a hot bed of terrorism is going on there. Muslims have an agenda, similar to the Communist Manifesto, and they are almost there fulfilling their plan for America. They are working on our free speech rights now. This past weekend a cleric in NY wants an international law that says we can't criticize their Prophet. I work long hours and I don't have time to listen to the main stream media because they are all bought off and in Obama's pocket and I figured out a long time ago that it's all one sided. For your sake, and America's sake, please check him out. See I asked nicely....... Remember this; it is not going to end well for Americans if we don't educate ourselves enought to prevent what is happening to this country now.

                            • 1 vote
                            #4.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                            bagdadjoe.....do search on ...Fox news dumber....and see actual studies that show people are actually dumber after watchung fox news! Yep true! That''s .......Fox news dumber.

                            Fox news...ahahahahahahahaha

                            • 1 vote
                            #4.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

                            Full text of Ahmadinejad's Speech to the UN General Assembly:

                            "Clearly, continuation of the current circumstances in the world is impossible. The present inequitable and unfavorable conditions run counter to the very nature of human kind and move in a direction which contravenes the truth and the goal behind the creation of the world."

                            It is no longer possible to inject thousands of billions of dollars of unreal wealth to the world economy simply by printing worthless paper assets, or transfer inflation as well as social and economic problems to others through creating sever budget deficits.
                            The time has come to an end for those who define democracy and freedom and set standards whilst they themselves are the first who violate its fundamental principles. They can no longer sit both the judge and the executor and challenge the real democratically- established governments.

                            The awakening of nations and the expansion of freedom worldwide will no longer allow them to continue their hypocrisy and vicious attitudes. Because of all these reasons most nations including the people of the Untied States are waiting for real and profound changes. They have welcomed and will continue to welcome changes.

                            Continue Reading:

                            http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september232009/iran_pres_un_9-23-09.php

                            • 3 votes
                            #4.9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

                            starsailing

                            bagdadjoe.....do search on ...Fox news dumber....and see actual studies that show people are actually dumber after watchung fox news! Yep true! That''s .......Fox news dumber.

                            Fox news...ahahahahahahahaha

                            You've posted this exact SAME comment multiple times! You REALLY are getting tedious!

                              #4.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

                              A lot of these Pro American anti war/Israel posts give me hope that this country can once again rise up and be great again. A lot of people are finally seeing the two-party sham for what it is and truly seeing the consequences of our poorly thought out foreign policy and easily manipulated media.

                              May all people who want war and violence fight among themselves and leave the rest of us alone.

                              • 3 votes
                              #4.11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:56 PM EDT

                              Fools! we have the solution, all we have to do is what we have always done. and the outcome will be the same. all we have to do is wait and see, its so simple, no war has ever been started by people that wait.

                                #4.12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:45 PM EDT

                                To Derek-908696: Well Said Buddy.

                                • 1 vote
                                #4.13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:51 PM EDT

                                I might add that no war has ever (to my knowledge) been avoided by using that tactic, there is cause for concern, I maybe wrong but Iran is one weird country, do you want them to have the ultimate form of power?

                                  #4.14 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:56 PM EDT

                                  A lot of truly pro-American pro-Israeli posts give me hope that this country can rise up and be great again.

                                  A lot of people are still seeing the islamist sham for what it truly is, an attempt to twist liberal views into their favor and manipulate our policy.

                                  May all people who are falling for the islamist tricks experience their rude awakening before any real damage is done.

                                    #4.15 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:04 AM EDT

                                    @starsailing Do you know that fox dumb is MSNBC,, Fox Smart is the one to watch, Called FOX for short, MSNBC is fantasy news for dimwit's. come on people lets all dream up a better world. MSNBC for your favorite fantasy, stories like Socalism works and Europe is great, Spain and Greece, are the best countries to invest in, there is no problem with socialized medecine in Europe, and Iran is not a theat. Starsailing is a socalist plant and a not so good one at that. Commie crap. total Pink.

                                      #4.16 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:23 AM EDT

                                      Starsailing why don't you use a picture that is more into your ways then a 1960's actor, something that reflects your views and mentality, oh sorry just your views will do. I used to be a liberal democrat, the shame is unbearable.

                                        #4.17 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:51 AM EDT

                                        I believe one thing we all need to remember is that Iran is going to do all they can to destroy Israel. They have hated them for many years and now is not different.

                                        Whether or not America helps God will protect his chosen people. He has kept a remnant alive for all these years as He promised and now is no different.

                                        I also believe that America has done well to protect Israel over the years and we need to continue to do this.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #4.18 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:10 AM EDT

                                        How about drawing a clear red line on illegal Israeli settlements in West Bank? Cross that line and we bomb Tel Aviv?

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #4.19 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:27 AM EDT
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                                        Comment author avatarRedstarRisingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                        This Zionist Jew need to stop his saber rattling...Israel possess 200+ warheads, yet they're crying over Iran's measly skeleton nuclear program? Minus all the Jews and there will be no more wars & stealing from the middle class.

                                        • 14 votes
                                        Reply#5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

                                        Redstar, rarely do I call someone an idiot, and in this case I don't have to...it's patently obvious and every statement you make just puts another layer of obvious on it.

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #5.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

                                        Wow..."The Jews" this and "the Jews" that...Redstar, you are a grade A, bonafide anti-Semite a-hole!

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #5.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

                                        Red, aren't you late for a klan meeting or something?

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #5.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

                                        Listen Barack. No matter what you say, we're not going to vote for you.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #5.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                                        Israel isn't spouting off about how it wants to erase Iran from the face of the world. Iran, on the other hand is. Iran as it stands does not have the ability to do so. Iran with a nuke does, and I for one don't see them being smart enough not to use it. Best solution, make sure that doesn't happen. In case it's escaped your notice, "death to America" is an accepted political statement there. I would much prefer that they go first. Oh, and by the way redstar, I agree with the rest of your critics. You sir, are an idiot.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #5.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                                        Thanks Redstar for posting truth. It is not racist to speak the truth.

                                          #5.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:00 PM EDT
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                                          Sheesh, RedStar,

                                          Your comment was collapsed by the smallest community ever. Some sort of record.

                                          See what your blind hate gets you?

                                          • 10 votes
                                          Reply#6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

                                          Couple things

                                          1.I wonder if the people on this page are really as obtuse as they are speaking. Nuttyyahoo (netanyahu) has been saying since 2009 that Iran has WMD and could start testing in as little as 6 months. He just keeps playing games and keeps targeting Iran. According to nuttyyahoo, the Iranians are at the 80% development line (loved his little 3rd posterboard) but according to the previous statement (look at link below), the Iranians are way ahead of that already and should be testing by now. I love his facts and data they are so informative.

                                          file:///Users/eon1988/Desktop/Goverment%20interest/diplomat%20dumbass%20on%20Iran%20nuke%20bomb.webarchive

                                          2. What about korea, they have nuclear weapons what about Cuba. The Cuban president said that the russians might be sending them nuclear bombers and that it was none of washingtons business. Both Korea and Cuba are not getting any attention and both are behaving in a volatile way.

                                          http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-4288940.html

                                          3. Iran does not want to bomb anybody, because A they will be wiped out and B they have enough ballistic missiles to wipe israel off the map. If they wanted israel out of the way so bad they could have just crushed them right now. They just like any other country want to have power and are trying to install the stalemate that comes with having a nuke "If you hit me everyone goes". They do want to wipe Israel off the map, but not by missiles. They want to establish Iran as a superpower so that they can grow and expand just like nuttyyahoo wants with palestine.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #6.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:07 PM EDT

                                          May be Iran is not the best country to have superpower but then again what country doesnt want it. Why does nuttyahoo want palestine and Iran to demilitarize and become weaker while he gains lands from palestine and overpowers Iran. What about Israel's Nuke missiles? I never hear the IAEA investigate them? From what I hear they have about 200+!

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #6.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:16 PM EDT

                                          IAEA does not get to investigate Israel, because Israel never signed the treaty.

                                          If Iran needs nukes so much, they can just pull out of the treaty, then IAEA will leave them alone.

                                          As for Palestine, they insist on shooting on Israel, so Israelis want them demilitarized, because they don't like being shot at.

                                            #6.3 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:07 AM EDT
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                                            Wow .......I did not expect NBC to even report on this story ......I am shocked and dare I say it.......STUNNED !

                                            • 2 votes
                                            Reply#7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

                                            Seriously.....Just like President Stinky (BO), they seem to have completely abandoned their jobs. There is no news department at NBC just as there is no executive in the White House. Just Stinks. And believe you me....BO *IS* Stinky.

                                            Stinks even said that he's not going to run the country for fear of doing something that could negatively affect the poles, so he'll be doin' the talk show circuit, and that fat wh0re Moochie will be telling out kids what and how much to eat.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #7.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

                                            stevejc42 - Are you 5 years old, or what? Calling people "Stinky" and "Moochie?" You made absolutely no point in your statement other than you can think of juvenile names to call the President. Brilliance at work. Good job.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #7.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                                            steve

                                            You are only making yourself look ridiculous! You are either a fox viewer or in elementary school.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #7.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                            Sure, SteveJC42 sounds like a dopey child, but for those of us who can't choke down Kool-Aid in either Red or Blue flavors, the Left-wing nuts are no better than the Right-wingnuts, either on policy or in level of discourse; I mean, Mitt "Rob-Me" and the "Repugs?" All y'all need to stop rooting for your teams and learn to emote less and think more. Speaking of dopey, I realize that Iran's nuclear weapon capabilities are a serious issue to Israel, but does the PM's expressing their concern by employing a Bulwinkle cartoon-style bomb graphic really help?

                                              #7.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:18 PM EDT
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                                              Go get 'em Israel. Leave the rest of us out of it.

                                              • 13 votes
                                              #8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

                                              Just what do you think a nuclear armed Iran means for the rest of the World ? Do you suppose they will play nice ???

                                              • 8 votes
                                              #8.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

                                              I don't know but last time I checked the US couldn't afford a long distance phone call to Iran, much less a war with it.

                                              • 11 votes
                                              #8.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                                              If they don't we can launch a couple of missles and let God sort it out.

                                                #8.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                                                PValdes.......

                                                Pakistan has nukes.

                                                Do you cringe in fear under your bed each night over that?

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #8.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

                                                John Bean .......How much do you think we will be paying for gas when they obtain said weapon? They will have a knife at the throat of the entire region ....Iraq , Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Libya .. etc...etc

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #8.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                                                @Ian......No because Pakistan knows that India will light their azz up if they try anything stupid ....That's how these things work ....

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #8.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                                                I understand what you're saying Pvaldez, but unfortunately we can't afford a war with them. Maybe if we hadn't maintained the largest peacetime military in the history of the world for 23 years after the cold war ended we'd be in a better position to do something about this real threat now. All I know to tell you is call China. They're the ones with the money nowadays. The US is in no position to open another front.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #8.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

                                                I hear you John Bean......we are certainly stretched beyond our means..but this a fanatical regime akin to Nazi Germany. I hate to make the cliche Nazi reference .....but they are a serious and real threat as you stated.

                                                • 7 votes
                                                #8.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                                                Pvaldes: A nuclear armed Iran would mean the same thing for the world as a nuclear armed N. Korea or Pakistan: one more nation that doesn't have to worry about being invaded by Western armies. Having a few nukes means nothing as far as offensive capability, when all other nuclear nations have hundreds or thousand of warheads. However, just a few nukes is enough to make invasion in the name of regime change and resource control too expensive to consider.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #8.9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

                                                Oh and sorry I misspelled your name. :/ I agree that something needs to be done but with Iraq and Afghanistan already on the credit card I just can't imagine how we'd pay for it. Maybe the Fed can print some more cash. They're getting pretty good at that.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #8.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

                                                So....PValdes.....

                                                Do you believe "that India will light their azz up" if Pakistan attacked Israel? If so, you are delusional.

                                                Face it: President Obama will not fight wars at Israel's bidding. Furthermore, he will (unlike you folks) take steps to prevent Israel from fomenting wars.

                                                No doubt, this is troubling to those of you who (transparently) pledge allegiance to Zionism over America.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #8.11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                                                Ian ....I pledge allegiance to a strong presence in a region that has become a powder keg. It has much less to do with Israel and much more to do with our interests as a nation for me . I actually wish we could stay the F out of it ....but we can't. Until we start tapping the resources that are right under our feet .....we will remain a slave to foreign oil .....

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #8.12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                                                Netanyahu, in the "eyes" of America, does NOT have the authority to unilaterally decide/determine announcing the "red" line before military intervention consideration unless Netanyahu and Israel plan to unilaterally fund the military action..........

                                                And if this is NOT the case....why is Israel publicly making this announcement right before a US election ??? Netanyahu needs to keep his "a$$" out of American political elections.........

                                                Obama said time is short at the UN for a peaceful Iranian resolution.....Netanyahu is saying there's no time for a peaceful Iranian resolution....

                                                The Leaders of both Israel and Iran are both provocative Instigators. I say let them both go at it alone..........

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #8.13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

                                                Robert169: "A nuclear armed Iran wuld mean the same thing..." NOT. Iran will blow Israel off the face of the earth first chance it gets.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #8.14 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

                                                Ian: "...he will take steps to prevent Israel from formenting wars.." You're not in reality because Israel will NOT ask persmission from the USA when they've finally had enough of Iran and the threats. Iran is not kidding about this they will develop nuclear arms and blow Israel off the face of the earth.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #8.15 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

                                                Iran has killed a lot of our service men and injured thousands of Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. Israel is more than capable of taking "Akmin-NutJobs nuclear facilities out with conventional bombs. Israel is just giving the US a heads up that Israel may launch a pre-emptive strike to take out the facilities. The Israelis are not asking the US to help them, just back them verbally when they do strike.

                                                I've been to Israel a few years ago and the Israelis just want peace. My 2nd day there Hamas was firing missiles into Southern Israel killing Israeli citizens. Israel found the missile launchers and took them out with a precision strike. Nobody wants conflict but let Israel defend their territory.

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #8.16 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

                                                You fear mongers are wrong, and Israel has killed, maimed, and injured thousands of innocents. We need someone like Rabin, oh that's right, he was killed by an Israeli for being peaceful and wanting a peaceful resolution.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #8.17 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                                                There's no reason any american should care about Palestinian independence.They have never been our friends.They were allied with the USSR and Red China.And now...Iran.

                                                Meanwhile,there are 35 million oppressed ethnic Kurds who've been friends of the US and Israel for decades.They're muslim too.But they're Democratic,tolerant of other faiths and economically progressive.Look what they've done in N. Iraq .If radical Islam is the problem a FREE KURDISTAN is the answer to that problem.It's beyond high time the US shifted it's main focus from the anti-US Palestinians and to the pro-US Kurds.An independent Kurdistan means another US ally in the region,a democratic muslm state and one that actually gets along with Israel.

                                                And THAT would be a change for the better.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #8.18 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:32 PM EDT
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                                                He could not have made his point more simply for all the simpletons in our administration and the UN .....Iran will strike Israel if they are left to continue their progress......

                                                • 5 votes
                                                Reply#9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

                                                Guess Israel should do something about that.

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #9.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

                                                Right on the mark. The nut cases running Iran, are not controlled by the people. As soon as this ratbag raghead system is sorted out physically, instead of verbally, the world will be a better place.

                                                Anyone who waves a stick at Israel, needs to ensure the stick is very big, and they have a lot of them.

                                                I personally would like it to happen today, but PLEASE PLEASE, after the football grand final.

                                                Go getum Israel, as you have a big stick at THIS MOMENT, but your stick is getting shorter by the day.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #9.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

                                                The real "nut" case is Israel's current fascist "government", wanting to preempt in a Crime of war and mass killing. For all you fascist "Christians" this is not the answer nor is it a sane solution.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #9.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

                                                Yes, Israel wants to prevent the crime of war, while you seem to want it to happen.

                                                  #9.4 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:09 AM EDT
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                                                  Isn't Netanyahu the same nutty warmonger who's been warning since 1992 that "Iran's going to get the bomb in a year or two"? Funny that he thinks Israel should be free to have nukes, threaten it's neighbors and bomb their nuclear facilities unilaterally, but those neighbors shouldn't respond in kind.

                                                  Even funnier that Dan Meridor, Israel's minister of intelligence and atomic energy, recently admitted that Iran never said they want to "wipe Israel off the map":

                                                  http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/17/israeli-minister-agrees-ahmadinejad-never-said-israel-must-be-wiped-off-the-map/

                                                  Last week, Teymoor Nabili of Al Jazeera suggested during an interview with Dan Meridor, Israel's minister of intelligence and atomic energy, that Mr. Ahmadinejad's rhetorical flourish had been misinterpreted. "This idea that Iran wants to wipe Israel out," Mr. Nabili said, "now that's a common trope that is put about by a lot of people in Israel, a lot of people in the United States, but as we know Ahmadinejad didn't say that he plans to exterminate Israel, nor did he say that Iran's policy is to exterminate Israel."

                                                  In response, Mr. Meridor said that Mr. Ahmadinejad and Iran's ruling cleric, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, had said repeatedly "that Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive. They didn't say, 'We'll wipe it out,' you're right, but, 'It will not survive.' "

                                                  • 11 votes
                                                  Reply#10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

                                                  PValdes.....you said:

                                                  Quote......Iran will strike Israel......EndQuote

                                                  No....they won't. But, here is what would happen if Iran had nuclear weapons (as Israel does): Israel's hegemony in the region would be diminished.

                                                  So what?

                                                  • 5 votes
                                                  #10.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                                                  skrekk: NO Netanyahu is not a warmonger. Netanyahu has not threated to blow Iran off the face of the earth unlike Ahmadejed has made that statement several times.

                                                    #10.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

                                                    Israel is NOT America, so believe in that. The fascist, apartheid "prime minister" of that country is a war-monger, Crime monger, ready to kill others for having the temerity to disagree with his killing policies and stand up to those policies. Also, Israel has illegal and don't allow inspectors in wmds (nulcear weapons of mass killing of life) at the ready.

                                                    Comparing Netanyahoo against Ahmadinejad, I like Ahmedinejad, he's been misinterpreted and race baited, untoward hatred of Muslims. Most people are aware that Iran, a sophisticated country of 78,000,000 people, would not attack Palestine/Israel with a wmd, they would be maiming and killing far more Palestinians and would face massive retaliation, talk is cheap and free speech is universal, but look at the actions of Israel, involved in much killing of innocent people in its Crimes, i.e., 5,000 men, women and children injured, maimed and killed in the West Bank, massacres in Lebanon in the 80's and lately, versus 14 Israelis killed in the West Bank massacre, several by "friendly" fire. Only on this thread would you find people defending Israel for mass maiming and killing, with complete air, ground and weapon superiority. Fascist "Christians" for killing are not Christians at all, like somebody said on a thread, it's more like devils wanting the destruction of all or much life on earth to fulfill an "insane" idea of a God.

                                                    I don't trust Israel, for those of you who don't trust Iran, they continually and perpetually spy on this country, practice apartheid by their current "government", those who are fascist there think they are worth much more than a Palestinian (life is), as does Romney, and they never listen to this "government" when it comes to expanding their settlements to take over Palestinian land, nor when the bulldoze or kill settlors, or Americans, such as Rachel Corrie, and they have bulldozed to death Palestinians in thier own homes. They were also one of the last countries to support apartheid South Africa.

                                                    Iran's democratically elected government was overthrown in 1953, by operatives of "government" here and from Britain, because Iran wanted to control its own oil, a Criminal act of war, and a "dictator" was installed so the oil interests could be satisfied here and in Great Britain - Iran owned the oil in their own country. Then after that action resulted in torture, maimings and deaths, they overthrew the dictator. They held hostages, no one was killed; later the "government" here supported S. Hussein, a person they later called a brutal dictator, when it suited them; it supported Hussein's use of wmds, poisonous gas, in which a million people were killed, and some of you call Iran a "rogue" country.

                                                    You can say what you want, the truth of facts speak for themselves. Many Israelis do not want another killing venture, nor do they want a wide and continuing Crime of mass killing and war. The Israeli "government" with many of its citizens having dual citizenship in the U.S. was all for the Iraqi Crime Against Peace because they hated S. Hussein, and his potential missiles, weak though they were. There were promises of a quick Crime and that the Iraqis would welcome "us" with open arms, not the weapon kind. These same chicken-hawks are still speaking out on news channels, their credibilty zero, their opinions countless, and are supporting Romney.

                                                    So peace comes through other means than cartoon charts of nothingness and insane pre-emptive killing, not supported anywhere in the Christian doctrine, much less the Beatitudes, nor by common sense.

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                                                    #10.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:56 PM EDT

                                                    There's no reason any american should care about Palestinian independence.They have never been our friends.They were allied with the USSR and Red China.And now...Iran.

                                                    Meanwhile,there are 35 million oppressed ethnic Kurds who've been friends of the US and Israel for decades.They're muslim too.But they're Democratic,tolerant of other faiths and economically progressive.Look what they've done in N. Iraq .If radical Islam is the problem a FREE KURDISTAN is the answer to that problem.It's beyond high time the US shifted it's main focus from the anti-US Palestinians and to the pro-US Kurds.An independent Kurdistan means another US ally in the region,a democratic muslm state and one that actually gets along with Israel.

                                                    And THAT would be a change for the better.

                                                      #10.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:33 PM EDT

                                                      Mike-791992 - There's no reason any american should care about Palestinian independence.They have never been our friends.They were allied with the USSR and Red China.And now...Iran.

                                                      That's because the US was always allied with Israel against the Palestinians.

                                                        #10.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

                                                        Not always. USA was actually set against Israel in the 40s, and tried to stay neutral through 50s and 60s.

                                                        USA sided with Israel in the 70s only because Arab states started getting support from USSR.

                                                          #10.6 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:11 AM EDT

                                                          Believe'nAmerica - NO Netanyahu is not a warmonger.

                                                          Ummmm....even most Israelis think Netanyahu is a warmonger.

                                                          http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/netanyahu-versus-obama.premium-1.464625

                                                            #10.7 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:18 AM EDT
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                                                            I have been an ardent supporter of Israel for many years, but I now think it is time for BiBi to get out and stay out of our political process. With all the money and weapons we give to Israel one would think he would be more appreciative and not try to sway our presidential election.

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                                                            Reply#11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

                                                            thank you, cause I feel exactly the same way but you know in 73 they attacked our ship and then what Pollard spying for them, no they lost who they were, and Bibi is the worst, I think Rabin was one of the greatest human beings ever but they like us have a scarcity of leaders

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                                                            #11.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                                                            Welcome to the club of people who are fed up with the unjust and criminal government of Israel. I'm so sorry for the many great people living in that country.

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                                                            #11.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

                                                            WHAT are you talking about? This was a speech to the UNITED NATIONS,nitwit.

                                                              #11.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

                                                              Bibi did not say anything about elections. He refused to express opinion on whom he would like to win.

                                                              You don't have to like him, but he is elected for a fixed term, he will leave in due time, but the general situation will stay.

                                                              Your choice will still be between Israel, who has it's flaws, but is still a democracy, or Arab states, ran by radical islamists who want you dead just for not being like them.

                                                                #11.4 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:15 AM EDT
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                                                                Saw entire speech. Netanyahu put up a compelling argument with the summer of 2013 being the red line. Will be interesting to see how the US handles this delicate situation with Iran, knowing if they allow this to happen the freedom & security we enjoy in this great nation will vanish. Very tough decision needs to be made on how to prevent this from happening. Other than war, would like to hear some ideas you may have.

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                                                                Reply#12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

                                                                Yea just like how Bush coach Colin Powell to put up a compelling argument about Iraq having WMD...only to find 5000 dead American bodies coming back.

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                                                                #12.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

                                                                RedStar:

                                                                Was Saddam Husein talking about erasing Israel and Jews from History or was he only launching SCUD missiles at her and whistling Dixie?

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                                                                #12.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:31 PM EDT
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                                                                Netanyahu...I'd like to draw a redline across his wide arse with my boot.

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                                                                Reply#13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

                                                                I have been an ardent supporter of Israel for many years, but I now think it is time for BiBi to get  out and stay out of our political process.  With all the money and weapons we give to Israel one would think he would be more appreciative and not try to sway our presidential election. 

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                                                                Reply#14 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

                                                                Rebecca, when Netanyahu was interviewed by Dick Gregory, the reporter asked him about five times which candidate he supports. Each time, he refused to answer. So if he is trying to sway our election, he is doing it in a very weird way.

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                                                                #14.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                                                                Except for the fact that he and Romney are friends and in the past were business associates. It's pretty obvious to me who he would prefer.

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                                                                #14.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

                                                                I have many school friends whom I like as people, but still wouldn't endorse for presidency.

                                                                  #14.3 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:16 AM EDT
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                                                                  Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I doubt Iran is dumb enough to even build a nuke, this is Iraq all over again. If Israel wants war with Iran, let it be their business.

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                                                                  Reply#15 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                                                                  I LOVE the graphic! It's pure Mad Magazine "Spy vs. Spy" That "BOMB" would be delivered by a pointy nosed guy wearing a black trench coat and black fedora, right? Even I can see how desperate a situation this is. Yep, got it...can't go passed the Red Line or else KABLOOEY!

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                                                                  Reply#16 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                                                                  US is war fatigued and can't afford a new war. Unfortunately for the hawks, diplomacy is the cheapest option

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                                                                  Reply#17 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                                                                  Netti must have got a call from Billionaire Sheldon Adelsen hey Bibi, talk about those scary Iranians again, change the news cycle, Mittens isn't performing well. I'm not getting my money's worth!

                                                                  Why don't you hold up a picture of a bomb, modeled after a Road runner cartoon, that will really get their attention. meep meep!

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                                                                  Reply#18 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                                                                  At least he didn't use PowerPoint

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                                                                  Reply#19 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

                                                                  He looks like Wile E. Coyote! What an idiot.

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                                                                  Reply#20 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

                                                                  Actually, jj, I think he's the best looking world leader around.

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                                                                  #20.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

                                                                  If your looking for dates, I think you have the wrong web site sweetheart.

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                                                                  #20.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

                                                                  I concur, Cassandra. The Prime Minister is a very nice looking man but it's his leadership that I admire the most.

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                                                                  #20.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

                                                                  jjpk, you got a good sense of humor. Something this site needs a little more of.

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                                                                  #20.4 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:08 AM EDT
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                                                                  BOOM!!!!..................................................

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                                                                  Reply#21 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

                                                                  This is Iraq all over again. If Israel attacks Iran, the President should seek UN approval (read: Russia/China) before assisting them. I have no interest in a conflict with Iran, and no faith in any information that states they're building WMD's.

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                                                                  Reply#22 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

                                                                  Maybe you should go over and check out the facility yourself then ....

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                                                                  #22.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

                                                                  Worst case scenario: Iran builds a few nuclear bombs and the missiles to carry them. What happens then? Do you really think they will launch their bomb at israel, knowing that total annihilation will be the response? Suicide attacks are carried out by low level guys with nothing to lose, not the leaders of nations. Launching a nuclear strike on israel would be national suicide for Iran, and it will never happen.

                                                                  Nazi Germany had a military that outclassed all their opponents until years into the war, when the Allies managed to build up an effective response. Iran would be starting a war against opponents with thousands of nuclear weapons to their handful, with nothing to gain but their own destruction.

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                                                                  #22.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:59 PM EDT
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                                                                  Netanyahu..I'd like to draw a red-line across his wide arse with my boot.

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                                                                  Reply#23 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

                                                                  so this bum comes over here with his handout begging for scraps and he wants our troops to die for his semi democratic country? if isreal wants to fight iran let them go for it. But our troops should stay on the sideline and we should start selling isreal weapons not giving them weapons we have to borrow chinese dollars to afford.

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                                                                  Reply#24 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                                                                  I don't think any country should have nuclear weapons.

                                                                  So why don't we all go seize them right now and put them on a shuttle and send them out into space?

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                                                                  Reply#25 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                                                                  yeah ...ok .....let me know how that goes.

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                                                                  #25.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

                                                                  TiredOfAllTheIgnorance-I don't think any country should have nuclear weapons.

                                                                  So why don't we all go seize them right now and put them on a shuttle and send them out into space?

                                                                  Boy, that's a name and an example all in one.

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                                                                  #25.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:50 PM EDT
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