We tried Somalia and ended up with a movie.

AQ Central Leadership, most notable UBL, was against merging Al Shabab into AQ Central. Even that A hole knew Somolia is a lost cause. The defeat of AQ in Somalia means nothing to us, we have to be vigilant against AQ franchises in places like Syria, Libya, Yemen and Pakistan. The presence of a majority Shi'ite does not mean Sunnis and Shi'ites would not align against the West.

There is no place in civilized society for terrorist/anarchist groups of any kind like Al-Qaida

izzyserious

There is a place......Hell.

They need to slaughter as many of those bastards as possible...they will just keep coming back in some form or place.

I wonder whose campaign speech this is going to be ?

• "Al Qaeda is DEFEATED and the remnants are on the run."

or

• "I am NOT responsible for the $ 6,000,000,000,000 in additional debt."

Meanwhile, Mrs. Clinton.....standby to be the "escape goat" for the Libyan fiasco. The FBI is going to announce in their "investigation" that the attack took place because of the TOTAL lack of State Department support for our embassies and consulates.

By this time, you should know Mr. Obama ALWAYS throws folks under the ObamaWagon.....Rev. Wright, Oprah, and the Kennedy family.

So sorry folks, had to add that into the mix.

Gone for now, soon things will go boom. Trust me, nobody won squat unless those guys are dead.

Was this article written to promote Obama somehow ? Those guys only retreated so they can strike by surprise, time goes by, people let their guard down, then ......BOOM.

Twisted if this is your real opinion of newsvine why do you even read them or any other news thread that you feel this way about.

Somalia is war torn nation governed by various tribal warlords. In time these warlords will outlast the foreign troops. As for Westerners' alleging Al Queda in Somalia, it is just propaganda cover for mercenary foreign troops to invade Somalia.

With such a well thought response, how could anyone refute your idiocy, twisted

Wall St Fat Cat said:

Somalia is war torn nation governed by various tribal warlords. In time these warlords will outlast the foreign troops.

Actually, they are trying to get their country under control, restore peace, and bring some commerce and economy back to the country. They are making good strides, now they just have to get rid of the various factions left after the African World war.

As for Westerners' alleging Al Queda in Somalia, it is just propaganda cover for mercenary foreign troops to invade Somalia.

Tell that to the head of the Somali Olympic committee who was blown up in Mogadishu last year. When the Somali athletes marched in the Olympics this year it was in honor of, and memory of, their team chief. I assure you, Al-Shabab having been in Somalia is quite real and an accepted, proven fact. And those 'mercenary, foreign troops' were a group of African nation coalition military. Did you not see the headlines yesterday morning about 'D-Day for Al-Quaeda'? Also note: the US has been monitoring the situation, but have been providing military advice only, and have not interfered, so this is a result of the African nations themselves rising up and deciding they do not want Al-Quaeda forces in their countries.

@Twisted: So you know better how things went down over there? Why don't you pick up a pen, note pad and an airline ticket to Somalia. You so obviously have the inside track that all of us are waiting impatiently for your on scene report.

Twisted's nom de plume says it all...

What a totally wasted post Twisted.

Twistedcross0666

What a stupid, nonsense article. Garbage reporting at its very best.

Yep.

Mr. Dok -

The pirates ain't having a very good time either.

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-impact-party-seems-over-somali-pirates-201115675.html

This is the BIASED MSNBC, and it's akin to the National Enquirer. MSNBC wont report anything that's against the agenda they're trying to push.

Good thing Fox has no agenda..lol

Well Tony since you seen this news about the Lybia Embassy attackson Fox..the obvious answer to your question about why "NO" news on it is simple that there was news on it..By Fox.

And your statement has what to do with Somalia? I think the Horn of Africa is ffar more importamt to our interests than the Mid-East. I dislike Obama and on that note, we need to focus on the lack of jobs, the state of the economy, and lack of jobs. And did I mention lack of jobs. Why do people not mention what The Clinton Global Initiative has done for us so far. Ethanol and NAFTA

crabdusty,

Wow crabdusty, are you ill informed or what ?

Ethanol is good ? Created under Clinton ? NAFTA created by Clinton ? Wrong on every account Crab.

I'll just touch on one subject because they are all more complicated than you seem to understand.

Ethanol - Primarily made by corn is bad for car engines as the water vapor corrodes many of the things in the injector system.

Ever heard of Monsanto ? They are believed by many to be perhaps the most evil company in America today. Bill Gated has a large stake in Monsanto, as well as MSNBC, and Obama.

MSNBC editors make Obama and Monsanto look good because there is huge profit to be made. Obama appoints Monsanto lobbyists to high positions in government. Bill Gates gets what he wants, more profit, Obama gets elected.

The trouble is this. MSNBC misinforms the public, and Monsantos products cause irrepairable damage to our ecosystem.

Monsantos seed has been genetically modified in laboratories and infused with other plants, animals, and sea creatures DNA. Components of Agent Orange has even been fused with their corn; Agent Orange and many of these other "natural defoliants and insecticides" are known cancer causing agents.

Monsantos seed is also sterile to insure future business, and cross pollination with nearby crops sterilizes their crops as well. Monsantos fertilizers and weed killers are the only ones compatible with their seed as well. All of their products are killing bees as well who pollinate 98% of the plants on Earth.

When the rest of the crops become sterilized, we will be totally dependent on companies like Monsanto which already controls 25% of the American market to eat.

What is so bad about their toxic corn ? It's in everything we eat. They feed corn to cows, chicken, pigs, and it is in nearly all processed foods several times over with its sugars starches and meal. It is in pet food, popcorn, Pizza, candy, and everything with a list of ingredients. Have a milkshake, it's in there, shrimp- dip it in butter, it's in there, a bowl of cereal, it's in the cereal, the milk, the sugar, it's toxins are in virtually everything we eat. It is even genetically spliced into other vegetables as well.

I could go on and on Crabdusty, but check out these political appointments Obama has made of Monsanto Lobbyists:

Obama filled key posts with Monsanto people, in federal agencies that wield tremendous force in food issues, the USDA and the FDA.

At the USDA, as the director of the National Institute of Food and Agriculture, Roger Beachy, former director of the Monsanto Danforth Center.

As deputy commissioner of the FDA, the new food-safety-issues czar, the infamous Michael Taylor, former vice-president for public policy for Monsanto. Taylor had been instrumental in getting approval for Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone.

As commissioner of the USDA, Iowa governor, Tom Vilsack. Vilsack had set up a national group, the Governors' Biotechnology Partnership, and had been given a Governor of the Year Award by the Biotechnology Industry Organization, whose members include Monsanto.

As the new Agriculture Trade Representative, who would push GMOs for export, Islam Siddiqui, a former Monsanto lobbyist.

As the new counsel for the USDA, Ramona Romero, who had been corporate counsel for another biotech giant, DuPont.

As the new head of the USAID, Rajiv Shah, who had preciously worked in key positions for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, a major funder of GMO agriculture research.

We should also remember that Obama's secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, once worked for the Rose law firm. That firm was counsel to Monsanto.

Obama nominated Elena Kagan to the US Supreme Court. Kagan, as federal solicitor general, had previously argued for Monsanto in the Monsanto v. Geertson seed case before the Supreme Court.

Obama hadn't simply made honest mistakes. Obama hadn't just failed to exercise proper oversight in selecting appointees. He wasn't just experiencing a failure of short-term memory. He was staking out territory on behalf of Monsanto and other GMO corporate giants.

They are literally killing us, and soon our entire food supply globally will be in the clutches of a few people who can decide who eats, and who doesn't. What if China buys Monsanto for a few billion, and Dupont as well ?

Crabdusty, Obama is bad for the world, Bill Gates is bad for the world, MSNBC is bad for the world, and Monsanto is bad for the world.

And your source for all these newsy items???? Rep. King (R) calling for Obama ..blah blah blah blah.

Yes, well, some of them probably went to Libya which is now, at least in the east, a safe haven for al-Qaida types since Gadhafi was overthrown by means of the U.S./NATO (mostly U.S.) bombing campaign there.

Adam44

“Gadhafi was overthrown by means of the U.S./NATO (mostly U.S.) bombing campaign there.”

That’s strange European news really downplayed American involvement in the NATO bombing of Gaddafi, in fact they pretty much relegated them to a supply role only. Strange eh?

Well, I've looked into it some more and it looks like there are many opinions about who did what. I think there's a consensus that the U.S. did the lion's share of the work at first, taking out Gadhafi's command and control with cruise missiles, B2 bombers, and other military assets.

France was trumpeting their air sorties against advancing Gadhafi forces on Benghazi but I also saw sources that said that U.S. AC-130 gunships played a key role in stopping that advance too.

A Canadian news source reported the following:

The U.S. military has shouldered the bulk of the military mission in Libya, but President Barack Obama said it would soon hand over responsibility, presumably to NATO.

"When this transition takes place, it is not going to be our planes that are maintaining the no-fly zone," the president said.

That was from this link: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/23/libya-costs-us.html from the CBC on March 23, 2011.

You have to remember Los that the U.S. government was very keen to minimize the U.S. role in that campaign for various reasons, not least of which is that the U.S. was already embroiled elsewhere and would be heavily criticized for taking on yet another military action. On the flip side of that you have the French and British (particularly the French) who were keen to puff up their roles in the military action because they were the primary advocates for intervening in Libya to begin with, so they wanted people to think that they were carrying their fair share.

But the fact remains that the most critical part of the intervention was the very first 3 or 4 days when Gadhafi's command, control, and most effective military assets, were destroyed. The U.S. did most of that though not wanting to take credit for it for reasons already described. Then, yes, the rest of NATO did a lot of the work once the "No Fly Zone" had been established.

Eric Westervelt put it this way in an NPR article from October 2, 2012:

"American Assets Crucial

The U.S. launched 97 percent of the Tomahawk cruise missiles that crippled Gadhafi's air defenses at the start of the operation. And throughout, the U.S. also provided about 75 percent of all the aerial refueling and reconnaissance flights, and supplied key targeting and intelligence assets such as unmanned drones.

"Without critical American assets this would not have been possible, and I suppose one could argue that if the operation had to go on too much longer, it also would not have been possible," says Ian Lesser, executive director of the German Marshall Fund's trans-Atlantic center in Brussels."

Finally, I also found one interesting source reporting that U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates was critical of many coalition partners for not doing their fair share of military contribution. This was a few months after intervention started. Rather than directly criticize those who weren't doing enough in his view, he instead praised three countries who were doing more than their fair share in the air campaign. He said that Canada, Norway, and Denmark had flown about one third of the air sorties.

The WIKI page on the Libyan intervention does make it sound like Britain and France did most of the work on Libya but WIKI is not the most reliable source available and often reflects overt or hidden agendas.

Betcha there is some in America that would like to see them come in to the U.S. that would defintely help the Fear Party.

This may sound a bit positive, but perhaps this will aid in the end to the pirating.

Just as with all other news, the media only tend to focus on things going badly, so we were treated to daily stories when al-Shabab was besieging Mogadishu but then almost nothing when that threat was beaten back and a months long counter-offensive was organized and successfully waged.

Al-Qaida Attacks = Big News!

Al-Qaida Defeated = one little article and don't expect much more.

Hey, right on! I'm a Republican for Obama, too. Just signed on to the cause (officially) a couple of days ago. And yes, I'm digging this trend in Libya, too, with a brand new government AND a population that want extremists OUT. Fingers crossed...

And by the way - there are A LOT of us moderate Republicans who are supporting President Obama. There's no shame in voting for the best candidate, whoever it is.