yep, and all the armed individuals, who by virtue of owning a firearm, are expert shots and cool under fire. Come on, if everyone had a weapon the death toll would have been much higher.

Ban guns and everyone will make potato cannons ban potatoes and they will use cucumbers.

Yea, if only Israelis carried guns....

MDB123 is right.

AirThief: Private citizens do but are told they are not permitted to use them in public areas in the event of a terrorist attack. And they don't need to given the quick and effective response of security personnel who are always nearby.

You can do some serious mayhem without guns. Try gasoline for example. Instead of focusing on a tool of a crime you need to focus on the criminal.

Love2troops

Why do Obama Democrats hate Jews living in Israel ?? &

Why do filthy rich (tax shelter) American Jews vote for Obama?

They are as "greedy & money grubbing" as John Kerry oops I mean Mitt (sarcasm)

Out law Guns and only OUTLAWS will have them! DUH

Please, shut the f*ck up. Your posts get more and more retarded by the minute.

"He who lives by the gun, dies by the gun" - the Christ

The gunman was not a tourist, he was working there and attending classes. He was recently discharged.

As for guns... they are just mere tools. Any study in history proves why gun laws won't work. Prohibition is a find example, not only did people care more for their vices, but they also cared less for the law. Many people don't realize, the US Gov't made a bold attempt to control firearms at that time.

People found creative ways to fire bullets. The FBI has a museum FULL of fine examples of creative ways to kill people.

What that means is this, look beyond your personal view. See the potential of what others may/may not do. If you ban firearms, you eliminate legal, registered firearms, but you then have illegal firearms in the hands of anyone that chooses to enjoy their vices and not respect the law.

@Brad Watson, Miami

"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -Benjamin Franklin

I think they shot him just to shoot him cause he was American. I highly doubt this guy shot anyone. It is a well known fact that everyone across seas hates us Americans.

@Brad Watson, Miami;

How the hell could "the Christ" say anything at all about guns when guns were not even invented for at least another 1200 years AFTER "the Christ" died?

@FlatIron72; The actual quote, from the original source, is "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

I love how the israeli forces are made to look like good people. You should see how some of them treat palestinians your opinion would be changed pretty quickly.

Until you find out how some Palestinians treat other Palestinians, than Israeli forces would look good again.

Thank God for the Israeli police and anti-terrorism units; We need more just like them all overthe world. No mercy for these idiot individuals who'd harm others. And definitely don't bother letting them live to possibly get off at a trial.

thank god fools like kraussk dont rule the world

Sorry Israel.. we didn't know he was a lune

I think they shot him just to shoot him cause he was American. I highly doubt this guy shot anyone. It is a well known fact that everyone across seas hates us Americans.

Im an American and i would have shot him as soon as i had a chance.. as soon as i saw him take the gun from the guard not try to just control him. How long would it take for him to get shot by lets say Dallas or NYPD cops in the USA?? Not very long at all lol. Israel does not hate the USA in fact they are HUGE USA fans. Join the US NAVY and go to Israel .. find out yourself

Oh yeah? Damn America? Why don't you tell us how you really feel there close ally? Damn you and your family. OK, we'll stay home. All of us. You got it.

Frank, it's so nice of u that u can speak for all Americans. The True Fact is Netanyahu and the state of Israel is using America to fight their War against the Moslems therefore American solders are actually Mercenary Soldiers for Israel without actually being paid by them

Jomo: Name one war that American soldiers fought for Israel. I served in the Israeli Army and never heard of or saw an American soldier fighting on Israeli soil.

@Basil - The war in Iraq was mostly to benefit Israel as Saddam was supporting Palestinian armed struggle for independence. Every Jew in US government was driving for that war like mad - especially the Jewish neocons in the Republican party.

US should quit giving money to Israel or any other country in the ME so they are nice to Israel (like Egypt).

Jomo-

I think you're confused.

ALL of Western Europe begged for American G.I.'s lives to save them in WW2.

Kuwait begged for G.I.s to save them....as did the "freedom fighters" in Libya, and countless others.

Israel has NEVER asked for American soldiers - ever.

Put your earbuds back on and enjoy you music and your ignorance.

And, MAX ?

You're an even bigger FOOL.

The U.S. invaded Iraq because Iraq invaded Kuwait. (the first time); the SECOND time, you can take your choice as to the why; on the one hand, Saddam did not account for his WMD's and thrw the inspectors out. (and we KNOW they were there. They have never been found, but we KNOW they were there); OR, you can, in your ignorance, just chalk it up to Bush. In either case, Saddam was NOT a threat to Israel.

I guess, MAXWELL, you're last name isn't "Smart".

BTW JOMO: It's also America's war.

MAX: What did Israel and the Jews ever do to you personally?

Ralph: I already know your (and Max's) bigotted, conspiratorial, and white supremicist views and am well aware that you can name every Jew in this country. Now please provide FACTS as to how these individuals that you very diligently listed "planned" and "sold" the war. And then list all the non-jews in the government and elsewhere who were also in favor of the war simply because of the global Muslim threat to this country. Also, without reference to neo-nazi web sites, explain how Jews were responsible for 9/11. I'd love to see you dig the hole deeper for yourself.

I figured it was Glenn Beck. Might have been for all I know because I keep getting pop up ads that cover the text right in the middle of the story.

Basil - it is not about me personally. It is about my country. Israel does not deserve the support it gets every year form US taxpayers - we have much greater needs here at home. And we do not need to blindly support Israel on the international arena - this is one of the main reasons Muslim terrorists target our country. We need to mind our own business and let Jews and Arabs solve their own problems without us. Without US being a guard dog for Israel, Jews would have been forced to settle their disputes with Arabs long time ago. Instead they keep on stealing more and more land every year and refuse to follow any and all UN resolutions directed at them. Are those good enough reasons for you?

Ah, RALPHIE ! Newsvine's most ardent antisemite ! Nice to see you again.

SO nice to see your same post for the 500th time ! SO original.

Max - If they were in the business of stealing land would they have returned the Sinai to Egypt and Gaza to the Palestinians? You and Ralph have been discredited long ago by your virulently hateful and obviously untrue posts. I won't waste my time trying to educate you and your pal Ralph on your blatantly biased, hateful, and parochial views on the Arab-Israeli conflict, and certainly not on your neo-nazi views re: the Jewish people in general. I do, however, feel a sense of pity for you and Ralph. The last thing I want for myself is to go to my grave with such hatred towards others as you and Ralph are destined to do.

Ha ha! How are my views neo-nazi, Basil? Show me... You Jews bring it up every time you have no real arguments. I like Jews about as much as I like Arabs, Chinese, or Latinos - if they act like good people I have every bit of respect for them. But if they are freeloading parasites taking advantage of my country then I do not like that one bit. Here are the FACTS:

1. Israel gets billions of dollars form US every year, something like $16,000 a year for every person in Israel.

2. Israel keeps expanding their illegal settlements in the Palestinian territory every year

3. Israel keeps violating each and every UN resolution directed at them.

That is what I wrote above.

Max.108. You forget that Israel has it greatest supporter in Germany. Because of wiedergutmachung. Its because of German support in materialistic and immaterialistic support Iraqwar went very well in the beginning.

But on topic: dont mess with Israeli. They open-carry more than AZ or NH.

"Heaven on Earth" means no guns. Christ 2 has returned.

See http://7seals.blogspot.com & http://7seals.yuku.com

Basil: "Name one war that American soldiers fought for Israel. I served in the Israeli Army and never heard of or saw an American soldier fighting on Israeli soil."

How about this: Name one war there Israeli soldiers fought side by side with American soldiers. They never did. Our allies are the British, German, Canadian and so forth. Not Israel as they are only spying on us, stealing our military secrets and defense technologies. From Rosenbergs to Pollard:

1947. Information collected by the ADL in its spy operations on US citizens is used by the House Select Committee on Unamerican Activities. Subcommittee Chair Clare Hoffman dismisses the ADL’s reports on suspected communists as “hearsay."

1950 John Davitt, former chief of the Justice Department's internal security section notes that the Israeli intelligence service is the second most active in the United States after the Soviets.

1954 A hidden microphone planted by the Israelis is discovered in the Office of the US Ambassador in Tel Aviv.

1956 Telephone taps are found connected to two telephones in the residence of the US military attach� in Tel Aviv.

1954 "The Lavon Affair". Israeli agents recruit Egyptian citizens of Jewish descent to bomb Western targets in Egypt, and plant evidence to frame Arabs, in an apparent attempt to upset US-Egyptian relations. Israeli defense minister Pinchas Lavon is eventually removed from office, though many think real responsibility lay with David Ben-Gurion.

1965 Israel apparently illegally obtains enriched uranium from NUMEC Corporation. (Washington Post, 6/5/86, Charles R. Babcock, "US an Intelligence Target of the Israelis, Officials Say.")

1967 Israel attacks the USS Liberty, an intelligence gathering vessel flying a US flag, killing 34 crew members. See "Assault on the Liberty," by James M. Ennes, Jr. (Random House). In 2004, Captain Ward Boston, Senior Legal Counsel for the Navy’s Court of Inquiry into the attack swears under oath that President Lyndon Johnson ordered the investigation to conclude accident, even though the evidence indicates the attack was deliberate. Given the use by Israel of unmarked boats and planes, and the machine-gunning of USS Liberty’s lifeboats, the most likely explanation is that USS Liberty was to be sunk with all hands, with evidence left to frame Egypt for the sinking. This would have dragged the US into the war on Israel’s side.

1970 While working for Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson, Richard Perle is caught by the FBI giving classified information to Israel. Nothing is done.

1978, Stephen Bryen, then a Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffer, is overheard in a DC hotel offering confidential documents to top Israeli military officials. Bryen obtains a lawyer, Nathan Lewin, and the case heads for the grand jury, but is mysteriously dropped. Bryen later goes to work for Richard Perle.

1979 Shin Beth [the Israeli internal security agency] tries to penetrate the US Consulate General in Jerusalem through a “Honey Trap”, using a clerical employee who was having an affair with a Jerusalem girl.

1985 The New York Times reports the FBI is aware of at least a dozen incidents in which American officials transferred classified information to the Israelis, quoting [former Assistant Director of the F.B.I.] Mr. [Raymond] Wannal. The Justice Department does not prosecute.

1985 Richard Smyth, the owner of MILCO, is indicted on charges of smuggling nuclear timing devices to Israel (Washington Post, 10/31/86).

1987 April 24 Wall Street Journal headline: "Role of Israel in Iran-Contra Scandal Won't be Explored in Detail by Panels"

1992 The Wall Street Journal reports that Israeli agents apparently tried to steal Recon Optical Inc's top-secret airborne spy-camera system.

1992 Stephen Bryen, caught offering confidential documents to Israel in 1978, is serving on board of the pro-Israeli Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs while continuing as a paid consultant -- with security clearance -- on exports of sensitive US technology.

1992 "The Samson Option," by Seymour M. Hersh reports, “Illicitly obtained intelligence was flying so voluminously from LAKAM into Israeli intelligence that a special code name, JUMBO, was added to the security markings already on the documents. There were strict orders, Ari Ben-Menashe recalled: "Anything marked JUMBO was not supposed to be discussed with your American counterparts."

1993. The ADL is caught operating a massive spying operation on critics of Israel, Arab-Americans, the San Francisco Labor Council, ILWU Local 10, Oakland Educational Association, NAACP, Irish Northern Aid, International Indian Treaty Council, the Asian Law Caucus and the San Francisco police. Data collected was sent to Israel and in some cases to South Africa. Pressure from Jewish organizations forces the city to drop the criminal case, but the ADL settles a civil lawsuit for an undisclosed sum of cash.

1995 The Defense Investigative Service circulates a memo warning US military contractors that "Israel aggressively collects [US] military and industrial technology." The report stated that Israel obtains information using "ethnic targeting, financial aggrandizement, and identification and exploitation of individual frailties" of US citizens.

1996 A General Accounting Office report "Defense Industrial Security: Weaknesses in US Security Arrangements With Foreign-Owned Defense Contractors" found that according to intelligence sources "Country A" (identified by intelligence sources as Israel, Washington Times, 2/22/96) "conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United States of any US ally." The Jerusalem Post (8/30/96) quoted the report, "Classified military information and sensitive military technologies are high-priority targets for the intelligence agencies of this country." The report described "An espionage operation run by the intelligence organization responsible for collecting scientific and technologic information for [Israel] paid a US government employee to obtain US classified military intelligence documents." The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (Shawn L. Twing, April 1996) noted that this was "a reference to the 1985 arrest of Jonathan Pollard, a civilian US naval intelligence analyst who provided Israel's LAKAM [Office of Special Tasks] espionage agency an estimated 800,000 pages of classified US intelligence information."

The GAO report also noted that "Several citizens of [Israel] were caught in the United States stealing sensitive technology used in manufacturing artillery gun tubes."

1996 An Office of Naval Intelligence document, "Worldwide Challenges to Naval Strike Warfare" reported that "US technology has been acquired [by China] through Israel in the form of the Lavi fighter and possibly SAM [surface-to-air] missile technology." Jane's Defense Weekly (2/28/96) noted that "until now, the intelligence community has not openly confirmed the transfer of US technology [via Israel] to China." The report noted that this "represents a dramatic step forward for Chinese military aviation." (Flight International, 3/13/96)

1997 An Army mechanical engineer, David A. Tenenbaum, "inadvertently" gives classified military information on missile systems and armored vehicles to Israeli officials (New York Times, 2/20/97).

1997 The Washington Post reports US intelligence has intercepted a conversation in which two Israeli officials had discussed the possibility of getting a confidential letter that then-Secretary of State Warren Christopher had written to Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat. One of the Israelis, identified only as “Dov”, had commented that they may get the letter from "Mega”, the code name for Israel’s top agent inside the United States.

1997 US ambassador to Israel, Martin Indyk, complains privately to the Israeli government about heavy-handed surveillance by Israeli intelligence agents.

1997 Israeli agents place a tap on Monica Lewinsky’s phone at the Watergate and record phone sex sessions between her and President Bill Clinton. The Ken Starr report confirms that Clinton warned Lewinsky their conversations were being taped and ended the affair. At the same time, the FBI’s hunt for “Mega” is called off.

2001 It is discovered that US drug agents’ communications have been penetrated. Suspicion falls on two companies, AMDOCS and Comverse Infosys, both owned by Israelis. AMDOCS generates billing data for most US phone companies and is able to provide detailed logs of who is talking to whom. Comverse Infosys builds the tapping equipment used by law enforcement to eavesdrop on all American telephone calls, but suspicion forms that Comverse, which gets half of its research and development budget from the Israeli government, has built a back door into the system that is being exploited by Israeli intelligence and that the information gleaned on US drug interdiction efforts is finding its way to drug smugglers. The investigation by the FBI leads to the exposure of the largest foreign spy ring ever uncovered inside the United States, operated by Israel. Half of the suspected spies have been arrested when 9-11 happens. On 9-11, 5 Israelis are arrested for dancing and cheering while the World Trade Towers collapse. Supposedly employed by Urban Moving Systems, the Israelis are caught with multiple passports and a lot of cash. Two of them are later revealed to be Mossad. As witness reports track the activity of the Israelis, it emerges that they were seen at Liberty Park at the time of the first impact, suggesting a foreknowledge of what was to come. The Israelis are interrogated, and then eventually sent back to Israel. The owner of the moving company used as a cover by the Mossad agents abandons his business and flees to Israel. The United States Government then classifies all of the evidence related to the Israeli agents and their connections to 9-11. All of this is reported to the public via a four part story on Fox News by Carl Cameron. Pressure from Jewish groups, primarily AIPAC, forces Fox News to remove the story from their website. Two hours prior to the 9-11 attacks, Odigo, an Israeli company with offices just a few blocks from the World Trade Towers, receives an advance warning via the internet. The manager of the New York Office provides the FBI with the IP address of the sender of the message, but the FBI does not follow up.

2001 The FBI is investigating 5 Israeli moving companies as possible fronts for Israeli intelligence.

2001 JDL’s Irv Rubin arrested for planning to bomb a US Congressman. He dies before he can be brought to trial.

2002 The DEA issues a report that Israeli spies, posing as art students, have been trying to penetrate US Government offices.

2002 police near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station in southern Washington State stop a suspicious truck and detain two Israelis, one of whom is illegally in the United States. The two men were driving at high speed in a Ryder rental truck, which they claimed had been used to "deliver furniture." The next day, police discovered traces of TNT and RDX military-grade plastic explosives inside the passenger cabin and on the steering wheel of the vehicle. The FBI then announces that the tests that showed explosives were “false positived” by cigarette smoke, a claim test experts say is ridiculous. Based on an alibi provided by a woman, the case is closed and the Israelis are handed over to INS to be sent back to Israel. One week later, the woman who provided the alibi vanishes.

2003 The Police Chief of Cloudcroft stops a truck speeding through a school zone. The drivers turn out to be Israelis with expired passports. Claiming to be movers, the truck contains junk furniture and several boxes. The Israelis are handed over to immigration. The contents of the boxers are not revealed to the public.

2003 Israel deploys assassination squads into other countries, including the United States. The US Government does not protest.

2004 Police near the Nuclear Fuel Services plant in Tennessee stop a truck after a three mile chase, during which the driver throws a bottle containing a strange liquid from the cab. The drivers turn out to be Israelis using fake Ids. The FBI refuses to investigate and the Israelis are released.

2004 Two Israelis try to enter Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base, home to eight Trident submarines. The truck tests positive for explosives.

This brings us to the present scandal. Two years into an investigation of AIPAC’s possible role as a spy front for Israel, Larry Franklin, a mid-level Pentagon Analyst is observed by the FBI giving classified information to two officials of AIPAC suspected of being Israeli spies. AIPAC hires lawyer Nathan Lewin to handle their legal defense, the same lawyer who defended suspected Israeli spy Stephen Bryen in 1978.

Larry Franklin worked in the Pentagon Office of Special Plans, run by Richard Perle, at the time Perle (who was caught giving classified information to Israel back in 1970) was insisting that Iraq was crawling with weapons of mass destruction requiring the United States to invade and conquer Iraq. There were no WMDs, of course, and Perle has dumped the blame for the “bad intelligence” on George Tenet. But what is known is that the Pentagon Office of Special Plans was coordinating with a similar group in Israel, in Ariel Sharon’s office.

With two suspected Israeli spies (at least) inside the office from which the lies that launched the war in Iraq originated, it appears that the people of the United States are the victims of a deadly hoax, a hoax that started a war.

The leaking of the investigation of AIPAC to the media on August 28th, 2004 gave advance warning to other spies working with Franklin. The damage to the FBI’s investigation was completed when United States Attorney General John Ashcroft ordered the FBI to stop all arrests in the case. Like the Stephen Bryen case and the hunt for “Mega”, this latest spy scandal seems destined to be buried by officials who have their own secret allegiances to protect, barring a massive public outcry.

The organization at the heart of the latest spy investigation, AIPAC, wields tremendous influence over the US Congress. Through its members and affiliated PACs, AIPAC directs a huge flow of campaign cash in favor of, and occasionally against, Senators and Representatives solely on the basis of their willingness to support Israel. As an example, in 2002, U.S. Rep. Artur Davis, D-Birmingham received so much help from pro-Israeli pacs that 76% of his campaign budget came from OUTSIDE the state of Alabama, mostly from New York.

The war in Iraq was mostly to benefit Israel as Saddam was supporting Palestinian armed struggle for independence. Every Jew in US government was driving for that war like mad - especially the Jewish neocons in the Republican party.

How true.

It is in isreal's best interest US stationed in some muslim country over there. The idea is that US acts as a guard for isreal, so that isreal can mess with its neighbors, kill palestinian women & children with the security that they can hide under US skirt if things get nasty..

It is the same thing this Benji f*ck is trying to do.

get US land in iran, fight aimlessly in the next 10 years, lose thousands of brave country boys (Not trendy jews from NY) lose triliions in the process...

So that isreal can just sit back in the sidelines and keep getting more aid.

Here is a list of dual loyalty Jews who worked in our government, pushing for war.

S*it!!!

Look at that list, no wonder our foreign policy is so f*cked up....And we keep supporting isreali ungrateful freeloaders...

good job Max, looks like you shut the plants up with your last post

All of you posting must just love the fact that Amadinejad just wed the U.S. to Israel by saying if Israel attacks Iran Amadassho## will attack U.S. bases. You know Hitler was infuriated when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and drew the U.S. into the war. That was the last thing Hitler wanted. (And Russia and China have backed the U.N. sanctions against Iran... good day)

Amadinwhtvr believes that the part of the us gov that is actively pushing for military actions against iran are in the pocket of israel, whether that is true or not i can't say but i will admit it is probable. so what better way to make them rethink their blind support for israel and convince them to talk israel down, than by claiming if your buddies paying you under the table f's up we will hold you accountable.

think of it like the getaway driver being charged for murder when he was waiting outside while his buddies robbed and killed the store clerk.

Dissolve AIPAC!!!

sigh. Where to begin ?

1. General Jaffey (post 3.24)

Dissolve AIPAC!!!

Uh,,no. "Dissolve JAFFEY".

2. Abdullah (3.19)

The idea is that US acts as a guard for isreal, so that isreal can mess with its neighbors, kill palestinian women & children with the security that they can hide under US skirt if things get nasty..

Once again....no.

First, learn to spell; second, simply by your NAME, we could have predicted your post. Third, did it EVER occur to you that the U.S. is not protecting ISRAEL, but, rather, the Arab countries and the world economy at large ? Try to follow this, and, for your benefit, I will type s-l-o-w-l-y:

Without the U.S.'s backing, Israel would have faced another war on (most) fronts long ago. She is outnumbered in terms of troops and, this NOT being the 70's or 80's, her neighbors now have missiles that can hit the populated areas of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. (NOT that YOU guys give a hoot about Jerusalem - it's mentioned, what 2 times in the Koran ? The only reason YOU want it, is because Israel HAS it) - so, she is invaded from all sides. Without the backing of U.S. (conventional) arms, Israel would have to resort to UNconventional arms - or face destruction )which, I understand you are ok with). Thus, the U.S.'s backing actually contributes to the stability of the region.

3. Patsy (post 3.15) - YOUR quote:

The only reason Israel didn't keep Egypt's land is because it's a country of over 60 million people and when faced with a force that strong Israel backs off.

..is just plain "silly". First, in 1967, it took Israel 2 hours to completely destroy the entire Egyptian Air Force; THEN all it took was to destroy the bridge back to the Egyptian mainland (from Sinai) to wipe out their largest ground force. They didnt KEEP Egypt's land (Sinai) because Saddat signed a PEACE treaty and kept TO it, for close to 45 years.

"Patsy"...a very appropriate name...not difficult to see who's "patsy" you are.....

Jeff, enjoy your posts and after reading this one, thought I'd send you a little present. Enjoy.

http://www.khirman.com/node/50

☺

Chefaz:

Thank you. Nice to be appreciated..and LOVED the pic !

my pleasure.

it had originally been sent to me some years ago by a dear friend who is now deceased. the pix always gives me fond memories of her as well as warm fuzzies for the obvious reasons.

Is there a love connection here Chefaz and Jeff ? LOL

mmm...NO, i don't think so. this isn't The Dating Game although sometimes it does double as the Mutual Admiration Society as well as the Poison Pen.

That said, Justice...any opinion on the link???

Yeah..nice pic, ironically it reminds me of a similar pic by the Nazi party who thought the same thing.

Basil is a sayanim and will defend the zionists as virulently as any Nazi would have defended Aryan superiority. Homeland Security is a zionist preemption because, from historical experience, they know that Americans will eventually wake up to the destruction of America represented by zionist influence and will begin to do what so many people in Europe have had to do in the past. Unfortunately, these fascist, greed driven psychopaths hide amongst the Jews and historically have been responsible for all of the pogroms that have hurt so many innocent Jews while the psychopaths escape to start again elsewhere.

If you would like to know the truth of Germany's anger with the Jews in the 1920's, read Robert John's history "Behind the Balfour Declaration" to see the stunning betrayal that the zionists pulled upon their own country, Germany, in 1916 and Woodrow Wilson's abominable corruption. After you finish that, you will want to read Eustace Mullin's famous "Secrets of the Federal Reserve" where the unspoken motto is Rothschild's famous quote: "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws". This is the primary tumor of America's malaise. Also, see how the zionists betrayed their own Jewish people in the most evil way possible and a convenient doorway into that search might be the very famous quotation of a zionist leader of the time, Izaak Greenbaum, "One Cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland". Just put that last into Google and you will begin a journey into light and out from the darkness of the pro-zionist propaganda that is woven thoroughly into American media.

Oh, and Basil, that "anti-semitic" curse has lost its power. the zionists have made their attitudes and objectives abundantly clear to those few who actually think about things and have also made it clear that they are as crazy as any fundamentalist Muslims, crazy as shiat, in fact, and criticisms of zionism are based entirely on these psychopath's behavior. 'Prejudice' (herd historical memory) is no longer the operant motivation for hostility against zionists (and for the nondiscriminant, Jews at large). It is pure factual history that paints the zionists as the worst extant danger to human well-being now polluting this planet. Your time is coming and all of you sayanim (see RalphH above for particularly damaging examples) will be found and reminded of how an angry America treats its enemies, especially its most treasonous arseholes. And, if 'hate' is your issue, you will note that the zionists hate just about everyone else including their own fellow ashkenazis (Khazaries).

Lots of Nazi bigots posting i doubt they are even Americans..

please wait

your expanation is in process

My first thought when I read this was that there's is a good possibility that this was set up for some sort of political positioning. In a week we'll start hearing about how dangerous Americans are and how there's a new breed of Western terrorists... Shakespeare said it best, "All the world's a stage".

Your right! We do love our gun's!

Richard, I sincerely hope those typos are a joke.

As I keep telling, once you cross the US Border your freedoms end there. This guy was viewed as a Tourist. When you go to a foreign country all Americans get viewed by your actions alone. This guy was not good representative in that catagory. I would really like to know more about the guy.

They say this American was part of a program to educate him to get employed in Israel. He was working at this hotel according to this article and he was fired or laid off. He got into an argument with another hotel worker but the story doesn't elaborate as to whether the hotel employee he was arguing with was the reason he got laid off. Still, no reason to shoot someone.

I visited Israel a few years ago and felt very safe. My 2nd day there Hamas was firing missiles into Southern Israel and the Israeli Army had to go South to stop the missiles from being launched.

What the police did in this incident is commendable. They killed a killer and protected other who were in harms way. Good job Israeli police.

"Thou shall not kill" - GOD's Commandment

God has a real problem with guns, gun owners, and especially those who profit from guns, i.e. gun manufacturers and gun shops. You've been WARNED!

Richard do you have your loveable gun in your hand ready to fire?

I guess you didn't actually read the article did you?

All your posts are sadly lacking, much like the reporting done by the writer.

Oh no, An American Killed by Israel....Didn't read the article, didn't need to, the headline says it. When to we start shouting for Israel to pay for the death of an American. Oh, wait a minute, wrong country, Israel can do no wrong.

That's right, slightlyold, Israel can do no wrong!!! God bless her!!!

They sure didn't do anything wrong in this particular case.

When a crazy guy is running around with a gun shooting at people, the police kind of get a guilt-free pass to shoot him, no matter what nationality he or the police happens to be.

Although, I understand if some people felt their mouth water at the title, but felt major appointment when they actually read the story.

Probably CIA.

Or NBA?

D.B.

or KKK?

Don`t forget the white hispanics

Or New Black Panther?

NBC...

AARP

From the Source: The AFP News Agency (found highlighted in blue in the article)

The man was a trainee sous-chef in the kitchen who had an argument with the person in charge of him after being fired," Samri said, describing the shooting as a purely criminal incident.

I call Bull@!$%# on your theory.

Actually, this is all just a big mixup.

The American tourist was asking directions to a Palestinian leather goods store and mentioned that he wanted one that offered a great deal on a new bomber jacket.

The Israeli's misunderstood.........

Or, how about the shooter was actually an Original Hebrew, a direct descendant of King Solomon who has been mistreated & discriminated against every since entering into the Racist State of Israel. An Ethiopian Jew didn't come in from European they never left and is not recognized by Israel as Jews even though they are most authentic

Why wouldnt an American work in a hotel abroad? Its called a "Word Abroad Program". They dont set you up in a CEO position of an oil company. They get you jobs in hotels, restaurants, cafes, book stores, etc...Maybe thats why he went crazy. If he loses his job then he loses his visa because a work visa makes it so you have to work is a very specific job.

When I was in school I had a friend who was for Jordan and sometimes she was struggling financially (as much as someone who can afford to pay 3x more for the tuition as a citizen of the Country would would struggle, I'm sure her parents could have sent her $$ if she was really bad off) because she had a min wage job that didnt have many shifts and she wasnt allowed to look for anything else that would pay more.

So a foreigner working in a hotel is not that strange or uncommon.

Yes, JOMAMA....

THAT'S why Israel has rescued African Jews from 3 African States and brought them to Israel.

You prefer to see racism everywhere. What's the matter ?Cant find a job ? MUST be racism, it CANT be because you're an illiterate and ignorant tool.

@RalphH

Rightly, you enumerated Jews with dual loyalty in the government, include Emanuel Rahm, ex chief of staff White House , David Axelrod, principal advisor in Obama administration.Please Don't remind me of the facts, I for one am happy with my" 6pack" and after hours visit to local pub.Thinking rationally confuses me.

It's nice to see a situation like this concluded the proper way.

xd youare right it is a racket. by the way do you own an xd?thinking on getting one

yep luv that 2nd amendment right, but due process... screw that shoot them dead treating them like a human costs too much money, and we luv that almost as much as our guns!

If someone kills someone, the killer is the victim?

I'll be polite and just say your logic is seriously flawed.

I think you are ignorant of all the facts.... seems he was being defensive..... so why? Aren't you curious about the 'why' ?

When "security" gets involved, you DON'T grab their firearm and shoot them.

Please don't even USE the word ignorant.

AFP NEWS AGENCY REPORTED: Try a click before looking like a dick.

Police later said the man had been working as a trainee sous-chef at the hotel and had recently been dismissed

Yep. A victim of his own stupidity.

Well, Janet10, maybe he was using bath salts, same as you.

@ Mymymomdidnotraiseafool

Stop talking about bath salts. I understand its the new trendy drug that all the adults are talking about ("think about the children!") but they've been around for years and we're just hearing about it now because the the media keeps telling us to be afraid of it. You might as well be calling people "bullies" because they hurt your feelings, doing the 'macarana', or saying "Not!" after and ironic/sarcastic statement....Gag me with a spoon

Rose I think you have lost it.

Or maybe you never had it, that is a high percentage guess.

If someone kills someone, the killer is the victim?

That is how it works if you kill a kid in florida, so you can't blame him for thinking it may be the same in other places....

...........If someone kills someone, the killer is the victim?.......

If someone fights against foreign occupation and oppression, the fighter is the terrorist?

Mules Brother, What exactly did I say that would make you think that I "lost it" and what did I lose? My comment was based on the fact that Mymymomdidnotraiseafool has used the "it was probably bath salts" comments so often that its getting annoying. Maybe not to you, but to me it is. Especially when every news story that comes up there is someone automatically jumping to the "bath salts" explanation. Its trendy, its old, and it needs to die until a real person on bath salts (and they know this for a fact) commits crime.

If someone fights against foreign occupation and oppression, the fighter is the terrorist?

If someone murders innocent people they are a murderer. No race of people can be the "criminal" just because of their race.

PUTZ

Putz? Laztstraw is right.

starting to notice a trend of name calling and whatnots. just sayin. L

Grow up you dumb ass.

He did get what he deserved did you not read the article? Imagine how it would have played out with the NYPD ..............."83 bystanders killed when NYPD cops go into a mass shooting spree firing over 2,000 rounds in all directions to make sure the criminal was killed". .....

I suggest you loosen the tinfoil hat a bit.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes a ticked off former employee/intern acting out in rage grabs a security officer's gun, starts shooting and gets shot by police in response. End of story.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Read the story, the American was terminated earlier this week for an unknown reason. My guess it was for a bad attitude/temper.

Amen Shawn. You don't settle arguments with a gun in Israel because you will receive swift justice. Kudos to the Israeli Police. Good job of protecting the citizens.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes a ticked off former employee/intern acting out in rage grabs a security officer's gun, starts shooting and gets shot by police in response. End of story.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Maybe not, but with the most corrupt people in history running these governments, it is safer to look for the conspiracy first. Have you people not realised that lone nut gunman events have skyrocketed 1000% since the the US government decided to declare war on the American people. And you idiots just eat it right up, whatever the media tells you, like they have some sort of incentive to bring you into the fold. It's laughable, most of you are living in your own little fantasy world while ignoring the reality around you because it is not trendy to confront the problem.

Or may be some people look for conspiracy because they have nothing better to do with their time.