I find it hard to care much if they make it out of there or if the Taliban do what they do so well to foreigners. I wonder if they'll still feel so strongly about drones when the women have been raped and the men beheaded.

Looks like Cyrax is yet another internet pundit who puts words in other people's mouths and then sneers at them. Neither Diver nor me said anything about the drones themselves, only the stupidity of these idiots who think going over there will be appreciated by these people or make any sort of difference.

It's all fun and games till you get shot or kidnapped.

Then the families of these idiots will want us to go over there to rescue them or pay the ransom that they will demand to keep these people from being beheaded.

I would think their activities would be just as effective in front of the capital or White House. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes when the Taliban or an al-Qaida catch them. What utter fools. And should they decide to allow their activities, just stay in Pakistan, you're not welcome back here.

OK let me get this straight, we are using drones in the tribal areas which are confirmed Taliban or Taliban sympathetic tribes. These tribes say they will kill Khan and his supporters who are marching to protest drone strikes in these aforementioned areas. So essentially they are marching to protect people who would gladly kill them? Are you f'n serious?

If a fellow American travels to a High Risk area they should be on their own. You get jailed, beat, detained, abused or anything else I don't want to hear about it. Why don't these fellow Americans go to the poor and violent areas here in the good ole USA and show their support/help. What fools.

No doubt that group are very idiotic people to go there for a protest.

Be cheaper and safer if they protest here....West Falls Church, Virginia.

Northrop Grumman HQ is in that town...(the maker of DRONES).

Diverdown1,

"Why would you put yourself in that situation?"

I guess it's because they got their marching orders from al-Qaeda: "Things are getting really desperate here. Too many drone strikes killing us. Come help! We need you!"

Here they go again dumb americans going to protest something they know nothing about and if they get taken by the talbian their parents or friends will be whining to the United States to go free them.. And if they are hurt they will probably try to sue some one... and maybe put some of our military men and women in Harms way because of them.... Just like Hanoi Jane during Vietnam

If those people are that stupid. then I say sucks for you !! You will get what you deserve and I will not shed a tear for you. Killing your enemy at long range is far safer than the up close and personnel way. Those fools will learn that lesson the hard way if they even survive.

yes dan-312359, they are all trators to your figthing men and women. if you can not understand these people what us all died then ,you really have your head up your bum.

I'm very much anti war but this is NUTS!

I've been to Pakistan, back in 2009. Ain't no way I would be going back now. They will be unsafe especially in the area they intend on visiting. The Taliban doesn't care about purpose of the rally, They will see Americans and unfortunately will be targeted along with Kahn.

But still, it is a lost cause. The Taliban are animals and have no sense of humanity.

Not very smart people. sometimes I wonder if they do this kind of crap just to get their 15 seconds of fame, Only with them it is one of there relatives on the news blaming the state department, or anyone, and I mean anyone, other than the very people that go to places like this knowing they are targets.

These people are clearly mentally unbalanced, cant the government pull their passports or put them on no fly lists? The only thing that will be peaceful about this so called "protest" will be their graves.

If they are so against the drones being used, they are barking up the wrong tree. They need to convince the government, (i.e. Mr. Prsesident Obama, the Congress and the House, and the United Nations), that drones should not be used. That would show intelligence. Make and grow an organization.

Serving as scacrificial lambs just makes the terrorists laugh and want the next batch sent in. These people will never be martyrs, but they will be known as idiots.

Drones are very useful and save US Troops lives, until they are shooting @ the US Troops. Even when the people on the ground were indicating the drone was targeting the wrong area and the over-sear of the operation was questioning the target. Result TWO US Troops killed and NO ONE held accountable... see http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-04-12/drone-kills-us-troops-officials/2620400

The CIA & Obama who Esclated their use, should be held ACCOUNTABLE, when they KILL the wrong people...

Just like the US Military is held accountable...

IMO & many others have stated that the use of these drones is making more terrorest than they are killing...

The Obama administration has said that drone strikes have killed few, if any, civilians...

Estimated Total Deaths from U.S. Drone Strikes in Pakistan, 2004 to 2012 - between 1886 & 3191 with 85% reported to be militants... see http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/drones

Estimates by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, which has reported extensively on drone strikes, of 474 to 884 civilian deaths since 2004, including 176 children... see http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/24/world/la-fg-drone-study-20120925

It is people like this lady that has allowed this war to carry on longer. By trying to have a "politically correct" war, it has lasted way too long. Bleeding hearts have no real sense of reality of what is going on and who we are dealing with. Instead of blaming the US for drones, go after the people who killed many on 9/11. Blame them. We have a right to defend ourselves. This is not a sit in, it is war and people like this only want to see the aftermath, not what is the cause. Good luck and hope she doesn't get her head cut off.

AC Robertson,

I'd say an 85% success rate is pretty good. This is war and it's not pretty.

If the Taliban and Al-Qaeda wanted to wear uniforms and set up bases, there would be less civilian casualties but they don't. They hide among civilians and use them as human shields.

It is soooo hard to believe that someone that stupid actually survived to maturity. I believe that any of them that are not outright killed by suicide bombers or someone with an AK 47 and a pocket full of hand grenades that is captured and beheaded, will not actually lose any IQ points. After all, a brainless idiot is just as stupid as a headless idiot.

Have fun while it lasts I say.

Here is the problem .....these people who are gong there simply do not understand the animals they are going to be confronting over there in those regions.

Taliban are some of the most twisted bastards and the tribals - once known for their old school bravery and integrity are unfortunately too prone to religious propaganda whipped up by the Taliban.

It's like someone going and sitting among wild hungry tigers to forward the agenda of tiger conservation (Not that the taliban maggots are any kind of tigers).

Do you think the tigers are gonna care ? no. They are gonna rip the conservationists from limb to limb because that is the nature of the beast.

These people are strange. They don't seem to understand that there is an ideological war, and they are playing into the hands of the enemy. I doubt the Taliban will kill a flock of geese that lay golden eggs. They will bring them into their villages and cry a sob story for the world to hear. They have enough media savy to know how to manipulate the press.

I put these people firmly into the camp of conspiracy nuts who claim that Bush and givernment insiders planned 911. They are also wrong in their assessment that the drone attacks are raising the level of anti-American setiments in Pakistan. The Pakistanis were burning American flags long before the Americans were there. Their hatred of Americans is Religious. Even if Americans shot flowers into Waziristan, they'd hate us for the mere fact that we are unbelievers.

The Taliban will treat these 'guests' as laughable, but useful infidel.

OK let me get this straight, we are using drones in the tribal areas which are confirmed Taliban or Taliban sympathetic tribes. These tribes say they will kill Khan and his supporters who are marching to protest drone strikes in these aforementioned areas. So essentially they are marching to protect people who would gladly kill them? Are you f'n serious?

Just goes to show that the Taliban are not scared of the drone strikes.

And if they are not scared of the drone strikes, makes you wonder who the supposedly "confirmed Taliban and Taliban sympathetic" people really are.

Well, they've gone to the land of beheadings, so don't complain if that's what happens, and don't ask us to put our soldiers in harms way to rescue a bunch of nitwits.

They may believe what they are doing is for a good or worthy cause, but the fanatics over there think that THEIR cause against the "infidels" is much more important than those "drone" strikes!

Ed-1318959

A liberal and her head is soon parted. They're all heart and no brain so no loss there.

Don't lump liberals in with these opportunist. The militants are combatants plain and simple. They are using schools, hospitals, and non-combatant villages as bases of operations. The are willingly using civilians as shields. Yes it is sad that civilians are getting killed, but they should be protesting here in the U.S. and not trying to make themselves out to be martyrs. American citizens basically waive their right to remain healthy when they put themselves in harms way on foreign soil.

"A lot of anti-Americanism is actually created due to the drone war," activist Chelsea Faria told NBC News. "It's making us a lot less safe."

The facts are that this anti-Americanism already existed (see 9/11) and is what precipitated the so-called drone war in the first place, yet these activists are too clueless to grasp that reality. In this matter, Obama is employing the correct anti-terror strategy.

Unfortunately, it may all be for naught because as soon as the troops exit Afghanistan, the Taliban will reassume control.

Folly. All for Hope and Corri.

They can stay there and jump in front of the drone.

Hanoi Jane and Hanoi john Kerry wannabes are still alive and being puppets for the dictators!!

Couldn't some of these protestors have found another way of gleaning their fifteen minutes of fame and glory?

When they wind up being kidnapped and held for ransom we are going to have to pay millions in order to bring them 'home' again, to a home which they have already discredited.

Scubasteve

They are wearing uniforms now, but unfortunately for us they are Afghan police and military.

But yea these people are total idiots. Think about it, we are doing military strikes within the country of Pakistan. Not only are we not at war with Pakistan, Pakistan is part of a major supply line for our military in Afghanistan. Of course they strongly object to the strikes and condemn them, they do recognize that they don't have control of the region and would rather not deal with it.

Remember that guy in the news about two weeks ago who jumped into the Tiger enclosure at the Bronx Zoo because he "wanted to be one with the tiger?"

This is the geo-political version. Mental instability in both cases.

Find out where the first protest is, and schedule a drone attack. Problem solved. Fewer incomprehensibly stupid people in the world.

I can hear the Taliban now: "Welcome to my parlor, said the spider to fly". Well I hope you have a nice flight and if you get caught, tortured, raped, and held for ransom I don't want any of your family members sitting at the WH doors begging for $$$ or help. YOU are on your own. YOU want to protest your country go for it, maybe they'll put you up in a nice hut making you their servants so you'll never have to come back to "this awful place". Karma's a beotch!

More headline news from moronic left wing"anti-American" liberals. Why should anyone be surprised? Let's leave these anti-drone activists in Pakistan!

I wouldn't be surprised if the Muslim al-Qaida militants were soon parading around with this group of American heads on a stick!

Ed, don't you dare try to put this in the liberals laps... I'm a liberal and think these people are absolutely the dumbest people in the world. I'm also in favor of the drones. They have worked very well. Are innocent people killed? Probably, but then so are the thousands of citizens in their country killed by the fanatics. So were the people in 9/11 (both dates). War gets ugly and never a promise innocent won't be hurt.

You guys leave these people alone, if they want to hug a Taliban for Christ so be it. At least they wont have to worry about who got elected for president, they will have way bigger fish to fry.

Applied Darwinism........

For the 1st time ever I believe, I agree 100% with every word American Girl posted above. There is hope for America.

What a bunch of bleeding heart goody-two-shoers! I wonder, did they protest when 9/11 happened? Did they protest when our embassies were bombed in 1998? Did they protest last month's assault on American consulates and embassies, leaving four Americans dead in Benghazi? I wonder, are they going to apply for Pakistani citezenship? I hope so because I'm not about to wecome them back. These people make me sick!!!

Code Pink could go to;

Chicago - Where the murders are HIGHER that Afghanistan US Troop deaths...

Mexico or US border areas - Where drones are also being used...

Or stay in SF or go to DC/NYC - Where the HIV/AIDS Rates are Higher Than Some African Countries... see http://www.msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?ID=13785

Stop the drone attacks and just GTFO!

Just a thought, why not cash in your return flight tickets and stay to help the people there.

Sounds kinda like standing in front of an Israeli tank....

I actually think it is a good idea... I mean what better way for Libtards to catch a clue than to actually have a suicide bomber or a small squad of extremists throwing lead at ya. Certainly even a bleeding heart liberal has the right to march off to thier own demise, and it is a fate befitting anyone that would openly go and march in support of our enemy during a time of war... such things (providing aid and comfort to the enemy is the definition of treason) are indicative of consequential justice to traitors.

But I am sure, there will be some that think I am just too much of a hard ass to have compassion for a bunch of dumbasses that apparently are too stupid to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. Maybe thier little organizer this there to give em a slap along the backside of the head to remind em to breathe...

Dumbass modern day Jane Fondas. I hope some of them get kidnapped.

superskunk,

"Phil, while I will agree Jane Fonda made some bad decisions and had poor political stances during Vietnam, most of the stories about her during Vietnam are wives tales."

Where the hell did you get that load of cr*p?! Most of the "stories" about this POS are a bit more truthful then you are willing to admit. I suppose you're going to say that the broad never ever had her ugly ass on the seat of an anti-aircraft weapon? Never ever opened her rotten mouth about how she felt about this country? Of course not - these arer all just fairy tales to you buttheads.

Vietnam veterans are standing in line waiting to throw the b!tch under the nearest bus including this one.

Ah yes! mother nature, at work!

Plain stupid, think all those muslimist will appreciate? H e l l no

what makes you think they are liberals? After all they are putting thier lives on the line to protest the Democrat President you hate so much.

First off, quit calling these idiots liberals. They are not. They may have some liberal ideas but they don't belong to us. These nut jobs are as fanatical as the Taliban or far right Evangelicals. Understand this, there are no good fanatics. These are people who totally disregard reason. Like any fanatics, they may sometimes be useful, but they have no loyalty to any one or any thing but their fanatical cause.

If they used just a bit of reason, they would realize that a very possible outcome of their antics is the exact opposite of their goal. If indeed they are captured or killed, all they will do is harden our resolve that we are dealing with people who also have no reason. Their death or capture will require an American response and it isn't going to be telling the Taliban that they have a point.

I am very much a progressive and I oppose unjust wars, but I have no issue with the actions we have taken in Pakistan. In reality we are doing about the most humane approach to dealing with these cut throat killers who are motivated primarily with the hope of taking American lives. If we had no concern for innocents, we wouldn't be using drones. We'd wait until the dead of Winter and carpet bomb the mountainous regions of Pakistan. Those not killed in the blasts would almost assuredly die due to freezing to death, but we'd kill a lot of Taliban.

There is some insane belief by many that any woman, child or elderly killed there is somehow an innocent civilian. That is the fundamental principle of these so called independent analysis of the drone casualties. The reality is that these people can be every bit as much of a terrorist as the guys with AKs. Don't think Grandma and the kids are making IEDs or supporting the terrorist fighters? Feeding, clothing and otherwise giving aid to the enemy? You're fooling yourself. Are they truly "innocent"? If these guys valued their families they wouldn't hold meetings in their homes or come there for refuge. I have little doubt that some innocents are killed, but in far less numbers that conventional war methods. These people could stop the killing pretty simply. Just quit making war with us and tend your sheep. And we ought to realize that virtually everyone were are killing is a civilian. These guys have no official military, they are all terrorist civilians with a fanatical cause. We are not just firing missiles at anything that moves. These attacks are based on intelligence information. A lot of that intelligence is likely coming from those on the ground who indeed are innocent.

These Pink Ladies have no clue what they are messing with or even if any innocents are being killed and if they think the Taliban are innocent, they ought to study up a bit about how these people view human life. They'd kill their own in a minute if they violated the wrong rules and have no problem with strapping a bomb to their own kids if it accomplishes their goals.

I have little doubt that sometimes when someone there is killed it creates family members dedicated to killing us, but it matters not if the one killed was a warrior or a small child. We're not making terrorists, they are making themselves. Sooner or later, those left will start to learn that staying alive makes more sense than getting revenge. I think the idea that we turn otherwise "normal" people into terrorists is crazy. So the solution is to not kill terrorists? That's pretty crazy too. We're not spending billions hunting them down just for sport, nor are we after their God foresaken piece of crap land. I think the locals may very well be happy to see these, mostly outsiders, who are exploiting them, go out in a fireball.

There is no good that can come out of these Pink People going over there. If they had half a brain they'd realize that there's an extremely high probability that they become suicide protesters. Do they think their little antics will somehow change policy? They obviously aren't paying attention because there's a large segment of this country that thinks we should nuke the whole region. The drones are a far less radical solution that is minimizing unnecessary casualties. It isn't perfect, but it is effective.

New DaY

They may have some liberal ideas but they don't belong to us. These nut jobs are as fanatical as the Taliban or far right Evangelicals.

.......or pseudo-liberals

Protestors wanting to stand on ground zero is why Trinity Test Site was kept secret. They aren't even as smart os OW.

The only thing liberal about these dumba$$ peacenicks is the dose of stupidity each has between the ears. Obviously, they have no dose of compassion for the Americans who have died at the hands of those terrorists the drones are after. Modern-day Jane Fondas!!!

Aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. It's called treason, the only crime specifically defined in the US constitution. All the US citizens who created and partcipated in this should be treated exactly the way any government would treat its treasonous traitors. These malevolent traitors are actively participating in getting the US overrun by crazed enraged Muslims who have only one objective: total Jihad, total world domination for their Islamic ideology and 7th century patriarchic misogynist way of life complete with sharia law. These traitors should be arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced to life at the hardest labor in the justice system in some supermax. The death gurney and needle is far too good for them.

"...this is giving succor and..."

Hey whoa. Nobody said anything about that.

So what if they did go. obama went in his younger days even though it was illegal for Americans to travel there. Really makes a person wonder how he managed to fly there unless he traveled with a passport issued by a country other then the USA. Then, the question arises as to how did he get the passport.....There's just to many unanswered questions reguarding obama.

762, you've been drinking the e-mail kool-aid again...

btw, these "code pink" idiots may well be my next darwin award nominees.

Well, these idiots will probably find out how much the locals give a sh*t about their views and just want them dead simply because they are Americans (this would be why those drones are being used.) Morons.

Wow man I can't beleive the angry retard comments above.... The way the media and government portrays the whole middle east over there to keep us seperated....

These ladies got more brass in their undies than half of you American's ever will.... They are protecting you and your children by going to Pakistan and learning the truth. And I wonder how the Pakistani Government is handling the fact they showed up there....

How many friends are you going to make by killing them.... ZERO

The average yearly wage in Pakistan is equal to $4,650.... So how many terrorist funds do think that creates. Its you people who need the reallity check for real.... Most want an education like us.... Most want peace like us.... Most want the freedom of choice like us.... Most want to leave for work and come home to a safe family atmosphere just like we do.... I'll bet these ladies come home with the real intel on how many drone killings of innocents there actually were.... Oh yeah I have to recant that statement because they are enemies of the war machine now.... F.U.

Yeah, terrorists hate protests like this. Every drone strike sends friends and family looking for the nearest taliban warlord to join up.

Terrorists love drones. Why exactly do you think the protestors are threatened? All the people above me really just think "thum arubs" are so stupid as to kill people trying to help them?

Terrorists hate! We all know that. It's the Taliban which threatened these 'protestors.' So, what exactly is your point?

Go join them Andrew! Al-Qaida and the Taliban will shower you with love and kisses for coming to help them. Stay awhile and enjoy some radical hospitality.

I don't have to adam, there are about 50 million people with innocent families in the middle east being bombed to hell. When they do hit back, no army of remote controlled airplanes will save you. You think they won't get over the border? some of them are already your neighbors.

My point ercillor, is that drone strikes help terrorist organizations.

If they promise to stay in Pakistan, I will donate for their one-way tickets. And I wish them well in their new home - hope they have a long, happy, fulfilling life there.

I don't have to adam, there are about 50 million people with innocent families in the middle east being bombed to hell.

Just make sh!t up as you go along Andrew, it has no credibility because it's just fiction you're babbling about.

Andrew is a member of "Code Pink", don't you "Think". . .

the stanford drone study, us citizens murdered abroad now acknowledged by a government that doesn't even bother to justify killing a 16 year old US citizen with no evidence of ANY political activity let alone terrorism.

You think this is fiction? I presume you have never used google.

Though if I were babbling fiction, it'd be much better than the bigoted diatribe you spew.

I'm bigoted against terrorists, you got that right.

I'll have a look at your "stanford study" later today.

By the way, that 15 yr old you are referencing was an active, vociferous propagandist for al-Qaida in Yemen. Got what he deserved.

Here's a very thoughtful take on drones, drone strikes, the Taliban, and the Pakistani administrative zones (and the people who live there):

http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/10/03/living-under-drones-the-anti-drone-campaign-can-do-damage-too/

Adam you're thinking of the boys father, the propagandist accused of aiding in the failed underwear bombing (among other plots) anwar al-aulaqi

The US government has yet to level even any accusations against 16yo his son (Abdulrahman al-aulaqi)

Yes Wire, "sheriff joes" gonna come get me! cause i'm totally in code pink! and that's totally against the law!! now you and JWLTude obey the men in white coats and don't put up a "stink"

The problem is it's not that simple, let me posit that 30% of the people in pakistan will never commit any form of terrorist act. I can accept that there are people who think we should glass the place in spite of the innocent people, I can accept that people think we should pull out because too many people are dying.

But if you read the comments above and below, you'll find a lot of people who genuinely seem to believe that these countries are 100% full of terrorists. Or that the innocents don't matter because they "accept" terrorism. When frankly if you want to live, you have to "accept" a man with a machine gun.

So what percentage of the people in the towers (That's 911, if you remember) were terrorist.

Screw yourself, I'll take the 70%, just a Crap load more of them!

Stay Pink, you make them Stink.....!

Oh, andrew. Please go back to your sociology studies at Berkley. You're so boring....

There are 6.7 Muslims to every American..... Wheres your pictures of the Pakistani People cheering on 9/11. I'm pretty sure there are none.... They probably got their children and went home to pray because they knew the war machine was coming to a neighborhood near them....

Andrew I read just a week ago where 92% to 97% of Muslims want peace world wide so your 30% figure i'm sure is way off....

Afternoon Bill

Wonder if Cindy Sheehan will be leading the parade? Perhaps Sean Penn will be there as MVP-Most Valuable Protester.

My god there are some really not too bright people out there. Cram a sat tracer up their arses before they leave the country, so that once they make their Hanoi Jone grandstand move, we know where the next strike needs to land.

Hey Jack, I have enough for a ticket for Babs and Alec Baldwin to go too! Both of them been yammering since the 90's about needing to move out of the country, I think we need to help them.

Roger that Tracy and perhaps we can send some oldies but goodies like the all those that sing Kumbaya and " I'd like to teach the world to sing in ...." . Good idea Tracy

Maybe they all have ransom insurance!! They will probably need burial insurance more.

There won't be enough left to bury.

They've had a "liberal" dose of dumb a$$. They'll never learn in their short lifetime left.

BTW, Superskunk, "supporting our troops" is exactly what the drone program is about. Instead of sending a 19-year-old American soldier up a mountainside to kill the enemy, we can just put a Hellfire missile into the target from 30,000 feet. If you don't think that's a good thing, you never were that 19-year-old American soldier, and your opinion is not an earned one.

Thank you.

War on Drugs etc, I agree with you but not this, no, I would also say maybe you talk to the South Koreans about if that was a just war. You absolute anti-military and anti-american blinds you to any good we have done. When you have power you can make just big big mistakes as well as do good, like the Marshal Plan. No these people are stupid and I dont' really care if they make it out. A lot of good people have died there and a lot of good people have tried to help those people as much as they can. Of course you and the people like you just sit on the sidelines and put everybody else down. I was in the Peace Corp in central american in the 80s, I know exactly how you are

Superskunk, perhaps you would like to explain to the Taliban what human rights are. Good luck with that...

Superskunk, for the record I'd say we are at war. Maybe most people have conveniently forgotten about it, but even before 9/11 Jihad was declared on the U.S. In case you don't know, jihad is holy war. When one country or group has officially declared war on another country or group, that kinda means they are, in fact, at war.

Why are we at war in another country that had nothing to do with 911. Should we want revenge for 911 we should look to Saudi Arabia, this is where the "terrorists" came from. Oh I forgot about "big oil".

edgewater

I cant believe you actually stated that out loud!! So it seems the US made a huge mistake for fighting Nazi Germany during the entire WW11, as Hitler was born in Austria. Yes most of the terrorist pilots were born in Saudi, but ALL of them were trained, sanctioned and supported by the Taliban Government in Afghanistan! If your mind can actually go back that far you would remember that the US Government gave Afghanistan 6 months to deliver Bin Laden and the other terrorists to them for prosecution, not only did the Afghan government refuse but they also dared the US military to come and get them. This is exactly what the Taliban Government asked for at the time and its exactly what they got; which by the way has absolutely NOTHING to do with Saudi Arabia.

Wolfbaby, who has to surrender for the war to be over? It's not a war if there's no defined enemy. Even at home, they're more interested in harrassing Ron Paul supporters than any Islamists. This is all just a power grab, and you've fallen for it.

Agnomad, if our soldiers were at home where they belong, so that the Defense department was responsible for Defense, they would not have the concern of going into areas where the LOCALS don't want them, and treat them like any LOCALS treat INVADERS. There'd be no need for drones.

And from what I've read here, I'm pretty confident that most of you are far more bloodthirsty than the Taliban. God help you when you stand in front of Him and explain yourselves. The concocted "war on terror" won't wash.

parasail

WOW - they are totally ignorant - hope they come home!!! They need to think about our soldiers and give their support to them not to the Pakistanis - imho they are a bunch of idiots and should probably just live there!

Code pink is notorious for protesting outside of recruiting offices so supporting the troops is not on their agenda.

SuperSkunk

Yo should condiser and volunteer to join your buddies in Comment #3.1 Cindy & Sean - y'all could be the Official Troublesome Trio leading the parade!

@superskunk,

So, that means I can help you pack your bags to go, or do you just talk crap? I got enough in my pocket for a one way ticket for ya!

I don't want to see our troops hurt, but blood needs to be bought with blood. The power to kill and maim needs to come at a high price because it needs to end.

If we can drop bombs on people who we don't like the look of from tens of thousands of miles away without ever actually gaining intelligence, why would we ever stop? The government knows the american people need a boogeyman and they are more than happy to provide one.

@edgewater,

If you were born prior to 1995 and weren't locked in a plastic bubble until last week while being fed only post 2008 ultra-lib propaganda materials, then you should go out in the back yard and kick your own a$$ immediately until you can grasp basic learning comprehension. Where the pilots were from is an issue, but who they were joined with and trained by that is why we are where we are.

BTW, if you are one of the conspiracy theorist that thinks 9/11 was a farce to get us into Afghanistan by Bush. And using that as your claim to support Obama, you really need to check into some better meds because under the current Admin, we haven't left there yet, and the death toll is climbing exponentially.

hope they come home!!!

I could not care less whether they come home or not.

QUOTE: " The government knows the american people need a boogeyman and they are more than happy to provide one."

Andrew;

Didn't you think that 9/11 was enough of a "boogeyman?" You do begin to sound like a Lindbergh style national socialist.

@edgewatervince: "Why are we at war in another country that had nothing to do with 911. Should we want revenge for 911 we should look to Saudi Arabia, this is where the "terrorists" came from. Oh I forgot about "big oil"."

Are you serious??????? Do you know where Usama was hiding for several years before our Seal team got to him? PAKISTAN - dolt

None of you obviously got the point I was trying to make, and actually it's not my point, it's Chomsky's.

Asking someone if they support the troops is like asking them if they support the people of New Jersey, it means nothing. Support them how ?

What we should be doing is asking why we live in a country where our politicians send our loved ones to die for nothing but global conquest and corporate spoils. We should be questioning a foreign policy we have no control over.

Sorry if I went over anyone's head with that, or you misinterpreted my point.

Tracy, I love my country, and I'm not blinded by propaganda and Americanism. I don't have to leave, and it's quite patriotic actually to question a foreign policy I disagree with since I pay for it.

Don't confuse your fear of freedom with patriotism.

"Men and women rarely admit their fear of freedom openly, however, tending rather to camouflage it-sometimes unconsciously-by presenting themselves as defenders of freedom. They give their doubts and misgivings an air of profound sobriety, as befitting custodians of freedom. But they confuse freedom with the maintenance of the status quo; so that if (the perception of social, political, and economic contradictions) threatens to place that status quo in question, it thereby seems to constitute a threat to freedom itself." - Paulo Freire "Pedagogy of the Oppressed"

Oh Lordy, not a Noam Chomsky follower... Talk about drones!

QUOTE1: Edgewater Vince says: "Why are we at war in another country"

I don't know Vince. Could it be because we don't want them to come here and make war upon us --- again?

QUOTE2: Adam44 says: "Oh Lordy, not a Noam Chomsky follower"

What's the matter Adam? Don't you care for context free grammars?

"Grammars?"

Yes, that's good for your karma, wishing ill on people that are trying to help others regardless of how crazy it seems.

Being so judgemental so angry to anyone that doesn't think your way, what does that do to your karma?

Wishing ill on people that are trying to help others ???????????????????

All they are really going to do is put our troops in greater danger. Now our guys have to protect these fools and fight a war on top of that. Best we put them back on the plane and send them home ASAP !!!! Or we could have the locals arrest them upon arrival and show them their true hospitality for about five years or so.

All they are really going to do is put the Taliban or Al Qaida in a good position to bargain when they take these fools prisoner. Its a fools errand. As far as benefiting the US, death is the best option. That way they are not on video begging for their lives and asking the president to do something.

Sometimes it is sad to see so many meatheads on these forums. Here s some perspective. They are not marching to protect Taliban. They are marching because of collateral damage Drones cause. 1 terrorist killed 20 civilians killed ration. There are almost 2 million people in that area. If all were Taliban then I bet we couldn't even fight this war in Afghanistan. I wish we read something before commenting. I do think protesting in America will be safer and better since decision makers are in America and not in Waziristan.

Roger

If they want the drones to stop, expel the targets (Simple problem solved) but if you allow that element to exist in your area you should not be aware of the consequences.

Roger

The war in Afghanistan would have been fought anyway. It is a war for control of the OPIUM Trade and all of the natural resources there.

As for the civilians there . There are none. All are sympathizers period. They are guilty of aiding and abetting the Taliban. Just like the sympathizers in WW-11 they can be or should be shot on sight . The adult population only the kids have nothing to do with it . They are only pawns in this game used by the Taliban and Al Qaida.

Hey, its their country.

edgewater

Maybe you should study the tribal areas in Pak. They are not Pakistanis but from a wide ranging area all throught that part of SW Asia - maybe you should join the march there too for an "up close and personal cultural" experience. However, don't expect a SEAL Team rescue for anyone that goes there and gets nabbed.

Wasn't it Pakistan which hid Osama bin Laden for all those years? Where were these self-hating Americans then? I never heard of any protests against those who gave him safety.

1 terrorist and 20 civilian killed per drone strike = BULLCRAP

Stop peddling Taliban and al-Qaida propaganda. What naive, gullible, pathetic Stooges you are!

Funny Adam, I was just thinking the same of you.

Or can you cite a few sources to show us how "surgical" drone strikes REALLY are?

All our federal government has been doing over there since the beginning of this false "War On Terror" is waste American lives and American tax dollars.

And since you and I do nothing about it, and it's our money they're spending (because remember a government produces nothing, to fund something they have to take from someone or somewhere else, the American taxpayer), we're really the stupid ones.

Quick, get the coordinates and get a drone in the air. Its time they see the war up close and personal.

But Skunk, we are doing something about it....we are writing our opinions on a blog.

Perhaps we should be writing our Congressman or Senator?

Again, there is a simple solution to this problem. The Israelis have this drill down pretty well; just find out where the first protest is, and schedule a drone attack. Then issue a press release: "Sorry, I don't know anything about that". Then again, I do agree with whoever said we should wait until Barbra Streisand, Sean Penn, Cindy Sheehan and Alec Baldwin show up. That would solve several problems at once.

Sow your seeds, not mine!

But Skunk, we are doing something about it....we are writing our opinions on a blog.

Perhaps we should be writing our Congressman or Senator?

Our Congressmen and Senators have no wish to change any of this, I'd rather discuss and educate my fellow Americans on the frivolity of our political system.

The domestic and foreign policies of the United States federal government has been bent on one thing since the end of the Civil War and the dawn of the Industrial Revolution, chattel slavery. The heat was turned up a little with the inception of the IRS and Federal Reserve, and it's been turned up even higher since 9/11 and The Patriot Act.

Give me a major changing event within the domestic and especially foreign policies of our government over the last 30-50 years ?

The few Congressmen and Senators that actually want change are treated like lepers, and there's only two I can actually think of off the top of my head.

I'm not just writing on blogs, everything I do in my life, every day is based on changing for the better, but I won't write to corrupt politicians or vote for corrupt politicians.

Well, you seem a little lost (for one thing the Civil War ended like a hundred years after the beginning of the industrial revolution) but I'd agree that the government could care less about human freedom and that it is actually working to undermine it in almost every conceivable way...

...with that said, what do drone strikes in Pakistan have to do with the loss of freedom? EVERY government that has ever existed has tried to protect its own people and its own borders. So the world isn't going to become awash in a sea of tolerance and acceptance if the US government collapses. People will still have to defend themselves from enenemies and still do thing like, GASP!, kill foreigners...

I think you need to check your history Travis. The Industrial Revolution lasted from approximately the late 1700's to the late 1800's. The Civil War was fought between 1861-1865, just at the tail end of the Industrial Revolution.

My point on that was the end of chattel slavery was the beginning of debt slavery.

First of all, I can agree that there have been times in history where war was unavoidable. But I would think the most advanced, intelligent nation in the world would have a better, more rational and intelligent way of solving things than by blowing things up. Violence is the least advanced, most neanderthal way of dealing with something.

Gandhi and MLK were two great examples of major change without violence.

Our government has historically destroyed democracy and supported dictators and military junta's while killing innocents and trampling human rights.

This global conquest proportionate military spending is driving this country into the ground, for nothing more than corporate dollars. Don't get it confused, our government hasn't been involved in an armed conflict for freedom, liberty, democracy, or doing the right thing since at best WW2. And there were tons of atrocities before and after.

America has enough problems of our own, like close to 2 million homeless children, we don't need to be the world's police force. Where is that in The Constitution ?

I'm fairly confident if we pull out of the Middle East and close all the bases there, the "terrorists" will no longer want to attack us. It's not our way of life or democracy they hate, it's our federal government's foreign policy.

Good thing what you would do means nothing.

r..woodward....does not the law giving aid and support to the enemy /murders of USA troops mean Treason anymore??!!

Oh yeah, do not forget the american-taliban walker lindh whose Progressive-Marxist father lawyer provided support to Osama!!

I would charge them with treason if they come back to the United States.....

So could our federal government's time and our tax dollars.

Criticize our government before you criticize these folks, regardless of how crazy it seems, I find them quite brave and admirable.

"We must get out of the thinking that we must be a military superpower. We must get out of thinking that we must have military bases as we have in a hundred countries. Is it possible that having military bases in a hundred countries arouses a lot of antagonism ? Is it possible that it provokes terrorism when your soldiers and your sails are all over the world ? Occupying this country and occupying that country, is it possible ? Why do we have to be a military superpower ? Why can't we be a humanitarian superpower ? Instead of sending planes to bomb, why don't we send planes with food and medicine ?" - Howard Zinn

Superskunk

(We must get out of thinking that we must have military bases as we have in a hundred countries.)

That's just plain silly ! We don't occupy bases in other countries against a country's will. they are there for mutual protection. You sound like one of those people who question the military until you need them. and we do send a lot of food and medicine its just that we send a drone when necessary too.

...apparently, this person, Howard Zinn wants the Chinese or Russian Military to rule the world ...bad choice, Howie............

mike277

No doubt that group are very idiotic people to go there for a protest.

Be cheaper and safer if they protest here....West Falls Church, Virginia.

Northrop Grumman HQ is in that town...(the maker of DRONES).

Mike, please do your homework before you post...

Northrop Grumman DOESN'T use Strike Drones, they have the Global Hawk which fly's at 60K feet, monitors the situation and collects valuable data used to support our troops on the ground. Not dropping bombs on any country...YET...

If you are gonna suggest any protest, get it right and send those pink pansy protesters over to General Atomics...The have the Predator MQ-1A drone. Their headquarters is in San Diego, CA

Wow, not many people are familiar with one of America's great historians and authors. The propaganda is working well !

Andrew-2962010

Superskunk

(We must get out of thinking that we must have military bases as we have in a hundred countries.)

That's just plain silly ! We don't occupy bases in other countries against a country's will. they are there for mutual protection. You sound like one of those people who question the military until you need them. and we do send a lot of food and medicine its just that we send a drone when necessary too.

First of all Andrew, the bases and the military presence are usually against the publics will. If you knew history, you would be aware of how the American federal government has used the CIA and direct military involvement to destroy democracy around the world and then replace that with either a dictator or military junta. You're confusing a countries leaders being cowards in the face of economic imperialism, or just greedy and want the spoils our government offers them with what the PEOPLE want.

It's not America's job to be the world police force, and we shouldn't support our tax dollars going to a military budget of global conquest proportions.

I don't question the military, I question how our federal officials and their corporate bosses use our military because at the end of the day they're not paying for it, WE are.

You're naive if you think what is spent to destroy is anywhere close to what is spent on food, medicine, etc. If the numbers were anywhere nearly equal, I'd probably be less outspoken about it, but the truth is it's not, nowhere close.

Said like a true Noam Chomksy drone.

Way to bring absolutely nothing to the conversation Adam !

Insults are like religion, the last refuge of a man with no answers or argument.

I'd like to ask Ms. Do Good how many lives have likely been saved as a result of drones eliminating terrorists. I'd also like to invite her to just move to Pakistan!! There's a reason Jane Fonda now wishes she'd never gone to Hanoi. Oh yeah, and the 14 year old girl/child, murdered by the Taliban in Pakistan, because she advocated for peace.... ?

Would this be considered darwinism? Tuff call.

The more I think about it...yes it is Darwinism!

It sort of is like walking up to a Guillotine and putting your head in it stating "Watch this!".

Somehow the phrase "Here's yer Sign" keeps coming in my head?

Look up, look how many people are SURE the protesters are going to die. WHY?

Becuz that thur whole area has dem evil brown people in it? You have such blind faith in your media as to think a whole series of races hate you for entertainment?

I know why the terrorist boogeyman is so popular, it panders to the self importance of so many amurricans. Careful guys! Ogama al-scaaaary-bin-sightedlocaly is out to get you.

sheep.

@ andrew, we have spellchecker and history on our side, what have you got on yours?

If it is so safe, I got enough money in my pocket for you to go join them. One way ticket, you don't ever have to come back that way, since we don't suit your taste.

Becuz that thur whole area has dem evil brown people in it?

Seems to me you are the overly Politically Correct type and should join them on their trip. They have something to prove. Something most people don't care about, except those that care more for a people that don't care for themselves.

You think arabs are stupid? you think they don't care about themselves? I'm honestly not much for PC garbage. Take a step back and think about why you believe these people are less than human.

@Tracy........we heard you the first 20 times about how much money you have in your pocket.

BFD!

I didn't say Arabs were stupid, I said Americans were dumb. lol

The State Department issued a warning about traveling to the area just like they do all of the time to other areas around the world. Sadly these...people remind me of when a parent tells a child not to do something and the child does it anyway and gets hurt. No one ever blames the child when it happens. Remeber that.

Funny how they've been there for three days now without incident. I'm willing to bet none of you remember these comments if code pink makes it home safe.

Andrew, why don't you hold your breath waiting for the change this silly stunt will bring. I fear you will run out of breath. Lets see, risk life to make absolutely no difference, or have common sense and stay here and write a letter. Hmmm, which road would someone not washed out on drugs from the 60's take?

Crying to you? LOL. No, even if they were captured you would have little to do with it, but no more than they would since they pay taxes too.

They aren't going to be captured...They will be marching with their new best friends who have bombs strapped to their chests and back...Any mention of the date of this trip?

@cyrax, they won't be taxpayers any longer. I don't have their work records, but possible they aren't taxpayers now. They may currently be american citizens, but will become traitors the second they protest america on foreign soil. Hanoi Jane should not have lived through it, these folks probably won't.

Sure, I can read it now, "10 Americans killed by drone attack".

Edgewatervince: The headline should read 10 Al-Queda sympathisers killed along with terrorist's.

They aren't terrorist sympathizers. They are protesting the deaths of civilians because of drone strikes.

What was Homeland insecurity saying to the visa request. "My intention in Pakistan is to give support to Al-Quida"!!?? . The State dept. et al, . are really doing a great job, well worth the $$$ Billions in tax dollars!!! NOT!!!

Joe: We aren't going to waste money and missiles to kill innocent civilians.

JOE

Name me 10 civilians killed by drone attacks....

Please tell me they bought one-way tickets.

When 10 "civilians" are willingly in a house with known terrorists, they are either terrorists themselves, or they are supporting the terrorists. By the way, the terrorists are also "civilians" (not members of any nation's military or police force.) The only time non-civilians are killed by the drones would be when armaments hit members of Pakistan's military. Most of these persons also sympathize with, or actively support, the Taliban and Al Qaeda terrorists. So some of those "accidental" hits on Pakistani military may actually be well-targeted strikes on the terrorist infrastructure.

Terrorists read newspapers too, I'm sure this bunch of American's blown to smithereens will play much better into their objectives than just blowing up Khan.

Good god rdx, don't you recognise the signs and know? Takes your meds already. Its past due

they are as pathetic as the extreme right, remember oklahoma city

Where is my violin? Dak lost cave and woman to trog. Oh well!

I hope these idiots don't come back. We need far fewer of this kind of liberal fools.

rdx111 - You are beyond help of any kind. I suggest you hie yourself on over to Rush's and Glenn Beck's camps asap! Your mindless ranting is very welcome there, but it is very unwelcome on this forum! Go away and stay away.

Hi TNFJ

Yo got that right! Wonder if it will have the same effect as thee video that caused all th "protests" at US Embassies? Good call.

Of course not. Peoples lives don't matter, but a cartoon or silly movie character creates outrage.

Who wants to bet that if there is a capture and ransom video, there will be a bunch of bleeding hearts sobbing about what heros these idiots are and how we have to do whatever it takes to save them?

Anyone wanna take odds on it?

May they experience the best a Pakistani vacation has to offer. Tour tribal villages where Al Qaida operatives prepare for holly war. See the caves and dungeons where prisoners, journalists, and infidels were beheaded. Gaze at the wonders of the video room with that green flag in the background, as you are told to say you are a spy. All while being chauffeured around by your very own driver, in a 1980 Toyota, and while wearing your complimentary black hood over your head.

Eventual beheading included.

good idea - they are besmirching the image of pink.

From the glazed look, I'm seeing Code Acid Flashback