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Islamic cleric Abu Hamza al- Masri is seen in a courtroom sketch in front of a U.S. federal court judge in lower Manhattan on Saturday.
An extremist preacher and four other men accused of terrorism by the U.S. government arrived in New York overnight after they lost a years-long battle to remain in the United Kingdom. All appeared in federal courts within several hours of arriving.
The preacher, Abu Hamza al-Masri, is charged in connection with the abduction of 16 people, including two American tourists, in Yemen in 1998; conspiring to set up a terrorist training camp in Bly, Ore., in 1999; and supporting violent jihad in Afghanistan in 2000 and 2001.
In a final appeal to avert extradition, lawyers for the 54-year-old argued he could not travel because of poor health. The Egyptian-born British citizen has one eye and hooks in place of hands he claims to have lost fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. Lawyers said he suffers from depression, chronic sleep deprivation, diabetes and other ailments.
Hamza was taken to a lockup next to the federal courthouse in lower Manhattan. He later appeared in court for the first time Saturday wearing a short-sleeved blue prison shirt but without his prosthetic hooks, which he complained had been taken away as he was being transported from London overnight.
His court-appointed lawyer, Sabrina Shroff, asked that his prosthetics be immediately returned "so he can use his arms," The Associated Press reported.
In the 1990s, the fiery anti-American preacher turned London's Finsbury Park Mosque into a training ground for extremist Islamists, attracting men including Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui and "shoe bomber" Richard Reid.
Hamza, indicted under the name Mustafa Kamel Mustafa, entered no plea, saying only "I do" when asked by U.S. Magistrate Judge Frank Maas whether he swears that his financial affidavit used to determine is he qualifies for a court-appointed lawyer was correct.
Separately, Egyptian Adel Abdel Bary, 52 and Saudi Khaled al Fawwaz, 50, are charged with conspiring with al-Qaida to kill Americans and attack U.S. interests abroad.
Bary is also charged with murder, conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction and other offenses in connection with the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which killed 224 people and injured thousands more.
Al-Fawwaz and Bary appeared in a New York court and pleaded not guilty Saturday afternoon, AP reported.
Preet Bharara, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, called the extradition "a watershed moment in our nation's efforts to eradicate terrorism."
"As is charged, these are men who were at the nerve centers of al-Qaida's acts of terror, and they caused blood to be shed, lives to be lost, and families to be shattered," Bharara said, The extradition "makes good on a promise to the American people to use every available diplomatic, legal, and administrative tool to pursue and prosecute charged terrorists no matter how long it takes."
Two others — Syed Talha Ahsan, 33, and Babar Ahmad, 38 — pleaded not guilty in a federal court in New Haven, Conn., just hours after their arrival in America, AP said.
EPA
Terror suspects Khaled al Fawwaz, center, and Adel Abdel Bary are seen in this courtroom sketch during an appearance in Manhattan Federal Court on Saturday.
Profiles of terror suspects extradited from UK to face trials
They were jailed until trial, and their lawyers declined to comment. Authorities say the men are charged in Connecticut because an Internet service provider there was used to run websites that sought to raise cash, recruit fighters and seek equipment for terrorists, including al-Qaida members.
The five men have been battling extradition for between eight and 14 years. On Friday, Britain's High Court ruled that the men had no more grounds for appeal and could be sent to the U.S. immediately.
British Prime Minister David Cameron hailed the deportation.
"Like the rest of the public I'm sick to the back teeth of people who come here, threaten our country, who stay at vast expense to the taxpayer and we can't get rid of them," he said, according to The Guardian.
"I'm delighted on this occasion we've managed to send this person off to a country where he will face justice."
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Welcome to America, where the fact of the matter is that we will get you, sooner or later, no matter how long it takes, for sure . . .
For sure! :-D
Yep, welcome to America. We have the finest medical facilities in the World and will treat you free of charge during you stay.
Wait a minute......Federal Court ? Take his rear end to Gitmo, have a short military tribunal, then immediately carry out the sentence.
Notice the author of this article did not call them MUSLIM TERRORISTS.
lol.... sucker... everyone knows who al-CIA-duh really is. havent you seen on the news that we are supporting alquida in syria and libya? our government says there grrrreeeeaaatt ...even the UN puts the alquida flag up where they conquer. THE U.S. CONSTITUTION IS OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS NO MATTER WHAT GOVERNMENT DOES. SUPPORT IT.
No worries he will get the best health care money can buy including a very sterile insertion of the lethal injection drugs at his execution..
So he suffers from depression? Well I guess most people would..........especially if they spent their life killing innocent women and children like this ingrate. This subhuman animal is the true face of Islam, make no mistake about it.
www.thereligionofpeace.com
NONE, not ONE of these @ssholes has been tried or executed once in custody. That is the problem! Military tribunal like Nuremberg NOW!!!
Should be happy, the prisoners here have dental insurance.
These guys will cost a lot to keep in prison. Why not exhibit them in suitably secure steel cages in the Bronx Zoo and charge a modest fee? We could have a pile of horse apples nearby and charge visitors extra for the joy of throwing animal feces at them. The country is trillions in debt and we've gotta start paying it off somehow!
Great idea!
I know this may sound controversial, and I don't really like either Presidential candidate, but why now??? I predict there may be a rush to get this trial done and find them guilty prior to the election for political purposes. I hope i am wrong, but doubt it at this point.
I would like to see them swing from the gallows. Put it out live just to let other terrorists know, if we get you, we will hang you in public. Sometimes you just need to prove a point.
Send him to Joe Arpaios prison in Arizona, a nice pair of pink shorts and
sleeping outside in the heat will make him a wonderful wife for one of our
finest inmates...lol don't forget ham and cheese sandwich everyday
yummy
I realize this comment is going to be much in the minority, but...
Try them under our laws and our rules and deal with them as we would one of our own who are convicted of this. They deserve no more--and no less. They are human, and all humans deserve human rights.
I don't condone what they did. I am as angry over their suspected involvement over 9/11 as the next American (though one wonders how one guy managed to battle extradition for 14 years when 9/11 wasn't 14 years ago.)
But to execute them would be to give them the martyrdom they so desperately believe in, as well as reinforce their belief that we are barbarians. Deny them that. Let them suffer the ignominy of rotting away in a cell for the rest of their lives, never seeing the sun. Lock them away and let them be forgotten by the world, reinforce the lesson that their mindless hatred will not make us afraid, that we will not let this change our identity as a nation.
Let them know that they have not succeeded in changing us to be like them.
@Ido,
Have you been paying attention the last few years? The ONLY terrorists that have actually been convicted are the ones who have been tried in the Federal Court System. Gitmo? Send him on an all expenses paid Caribbean vacation? Screw that.
MILITARY COURT HAS LESS TERROR CONVICTIONS AS A PERCENTAGE THAN CIVILIAN COURT.
I say that to all the Guantanamo lovers because if you really actually care, you need to get an education on it.
If more terrorists were convicted in military court, I'd be all for it. But that isn't the case. More are let go, end up in their home countries, and then our soldiers fight them again.
Looking forward to us putting these terrorists through due process. They HATE due process, because it doesn't come out of a religious book.
I fail to understand how someone can achieve martyrdom by saying they are not guilty of the act. To achieve this status they stand behind their actions. I also don't feel we should maintain a murderer till he or she dies from natural causes. The people they
killed did not, so why should these people deserve better. If there is no doubt of their guilt no matter what their defense, terminate them in the same manner as they did others, no matter how cruel.
Welcome welcome to the Unites States of America Abu Ham za al masri al coward, your allah wants you to come over and face reality. It's your allah's will for you to visit the USA and enjoy your stay at the best facility availabble, with your allah blessing and willing and US generosity is for you to spend some time here for good and at the end to enjoy the stay with 72 virgins of unknow sex and to have fun as many round you can handle.
Part of the 'deal' to satisfy the European Union courts (sic) was that they would NOT face the death penalty, would NOT be sent to Gitmo, and WOULD be tried in a Federal Court (civilian). That likely means that if found guilty they will receive consecutive sentences on each count - hence the likelihood of hundreds of years in prison with NO possibility of parole. If found guilty I would put their chances of a Presidential pardon as ZERO.
Bullet to the head, let a dog urinate on their body, wrap them in pigs hide and bury them facing south.
IMO :)
Wayne-780911, do you seriously believe that the British Courts are trying to influence our Nov. elections? Why would they even bother?
that Abu Hamza...he ain't right in the head...
Execution... The sooner the better...
One year fighting extradition to America? What were you afraid of?
Terrorist is just another word for cowards...
Why are nOT in a Military court??!! Should be tried for war crimes!!
BOZOhussen & Holder will drop all charges or find some other reason --Executive privilege??-- crule punishment. etc.... Why has NOT one of these murders been publicly executed... Tim Mcvey was done much quicker, but then he was white!! How about Maj Hussen -the Ft. Hood murderer- we are still giving him $$8000/ month salary, and NO trial!!
Ahhh..terrorist.... Hang them from the highest Yardarm!
Well that was past ways..guess these days you would say..Hang them from the highest CELL TOWER!
If we hurry, we can try, convict, dress them up in pig skin and publicly hang them on the same day the new tower is dedicated at ground zero.
Only Obama would bring them to American soil and into an American court room presumably to give them the same rights as American citizens. They should be in Gitmo! Only those who sympatize with them would bring them to be tried in the courts reserved for American citizens.
ORB 1943
ZERO huh. Depends on who wins the election doesn't it. Who bought into that bad deal that just shows how wimpy the world thinks our current leaders are. Another reason to keep ALL our money at home. They dictate to us how to handle terrorists who attacked us and we give them money. ENOUGH
@IDO: Your right, thats because MSNBC called them "Islam Extreamists" which is the politically correct name for MUSLIMS!!!
Caljam 71, (1.4)…..This subhuman animal is the true face of Islam, make no mistake about it.
“True face of Islam” is confusion. They themselves, the Muslims, no longer know what they represent. The pressures of the “new” and the memories of the “old” are ripping them apart. They have lost their identity. As a result they are readily prepared to look away, sacrifice the face of Islam and use people like Abu Hamza al-Masri to advance it’s teachings in the hope that perhaps one day they will be elevated to new heights and will dominate the world, just like they did in parts of Europe hundreds of years ago. After all they are the chosen ones. In the meantime thousands readily lose their lives for a dream that is no more nor less only a dream.
Obama will have them over to dinner and let them sleep in Lincoln's bed...
i fail to see where the federal courts have the power to bring these enemy combatants to trial, they are not within the jurisdictions of US courts. the only thing they can do is imprison them until combat operations are over then use the military courts to impose consequence, or kill them, any else is a mockery of warfare and a loss militarily.
Don't worry about them. A liberal judge in N.Y will probably dismiss the or let them go for time served. Probably in time to vote. Or else Obama will send them back to Egypt to make the Muslim Brotherhood happy.
...I thought they were brought here for their reelect Obama endorsement...
strawman, tiredobs, ComradeChaos, how on EARTH could you guys say such things? Whether you care for our president or not (and it's obviously NOT in your cases), your disrespect of the office of the presidency is absolutely disgraceful! There are so many hateful and disgusting comments in this thread, and you should ALL be ashamed of yourselves.
Amanda, in her post 1.12, had the right idea.
Amanda, thank you for being the voice of reason in the midst of all this nauseating promotion of cruelty and hate.
...chit, Prez-0 disrespected the office of the presidency long before we did...
Does that therefore give you "permission" to do the same or worse? Of course not. It's just an excuse for you to express your hatred. It reminds me of the reply a parent might give when a child asks for something unreasonable: "And if your friend decided to jump off a bridge, does that mean that it's okay for you to do it, too?"
Why are you addressing me as "chit," anyway?
Along with others on this board, I disagree with your point of view. However, I don't find it necessary to express my opinions in a rude fashion; rather, I try to be respectful, even when referring to the, uh, “person,” who is running against President Obama. And even when I'm replying to you, too!
The term 'chit' ,scooter, is used instead of saying the 's' word.
I get 'permission' from the 1st Amendment of the Bill of Rights. Ever heard of it? Or did you sleep through American History in high school?
...as for the rest of your drivel; it is obvious that you have the Chris Matthews syndrome of 'tingle up your leg' , deeming any criticism of Prez-0 as 'hatred'...oh, goodness...people who criticize Prez-0 (that is, President - ZERO) must be, dare we say it, 'racist'.
Of course, the disrespect could be because the asshat made a boatload of promises in 2007-2008, of which, he kept NONE. Transparency in govt? NOT! Cut the deficit? NOT! Unite the nation? NOT! Work with / Compromise 'across the aisle'? NOT! The list goes on & on & on & on...
In those famous words of Sgt. Hulka, "Mellow out, Francis."
commrade chaos, all politicians are liars, they all make a lot of empty promises just to get elected, that includes republicans !!
Federal Court? I thought islamic terrorists were sent to Gitmo!
When is Barry going to have them over to the white house for a beer summit?
I hear a job is open in Oregon for hog feedin'.
Big hogs too.
Thier taste for meat is well known.
The hogs don't care of your religion.
A suitable sentence.
A fitting sentence, I might add!!!
What on US Soil? Oh boy they just keep running up the Tab..
TO all those here that wonder why these men are not in Gitmo, it is simple. Gitmo is a MILITARY PRISON FOR WAR CRIMINALS! Training Jihads in Britain to blow up buildings in in the US is NOT a WAR CRIME, its a Terrorist CRIME AGAINST the US civilians, not the US military! If these were all war crimes, they would also not have had to go through British extradition crap either, it would have been a quick military transfer.
How come the one in the White House is not in custody ?
If they are guilty of terrorist organized crime, execute them !
Agreed. And HANG that Abu-Hamza al-Masri by his own hook and pee-stained crusted sheets. No sense wasting any taxpayer money on a bullet, or a lethal IV.
And 10 more will take their place.
Ask yourself why they hate America.
Because we won't cowtow to them - and mash their nanas, buy them a coke and sing Kumbya????????????
"They don't have to like us. So as long as they fear us."
- Harry Truman
Ryan in TX.....
TX ? as in TEXAS? are you for real? hate us? They all ready do, where you been? when they come here to spread their B.S. they need be taught to fear us.
or in other words saddle up ryan bout time to play "cowboys and Muslims"
They are criminal suspects and should be treated as such. If more follow them, they should get the same. There are many religious and political reasons why these people do what they do. Would you suggest we just let them do their thing without holding them responsible for their actions?
looks like your all brainwashed. L O L to all of you. you better give up all your freedoms or al-CIA-duh is gunna git you!!!
Excellent.
We should follow the Presidnts lead and extend our hand in friendship..Apologize profusely to them for the inconvience of being brought to America against their ill health and wishes..Tell them that they have the right to kill Americans as we've over the years implimented polocies against them abroad and then proceed to shoot the M O T H E R F U C K E R S right between the eyes.American Jihaid!!!
tom jefferson2 you've been listening to those late night talk shows again! Turn off the radio and get help.
you forget the fact we did'nt arrest them here. so if you want to arrest these people you have to have to cooperation of other nations and that rules out the death penalty. the alternative was to just set them free
Who cares what he suffers from. Put him on an electric chair and he won't suffer anymore. Then he can be corn holed by satan.
Ryan...we know why they hate America...we do nOT have a black-Muslim prez( per madonna), our Prez. has not bowed and kissed every middle_eastern dictator while apologizing for how great the USA is, We do nOT have Over-the-Hiil'y give Hamas $$$ Billions in tax money, We did nOT use Military power to put the Islamic Terror group in Egypt, Libya,Syria..., every time Israel asks to speak to our fearless leader he jumps and listens.., the koran is a book of love.... Oh that is correct..BOZOhussen has been busy with All that anti-American shenanigans!!! Eastwood was correct...the Craziness in DC has got to stop!!! I guess they just hate us just to hate us!!
@Hotticket2304234:Your right, why waste a bullet? I think for their last meal they should be forced to eat Bacon,ham,porkchops and a can of spam so we can watch them crap a whole pig out when they swing from a rope!
The one in the White House IS in custody. WE just got ANOTHER 4 years added to our sentence!!!
Waste of taxpayer's $ on some vermins and cockcroaches. Lawyer's time, clerk's time, prison staff time....what a waste ! Not one word or article on any newspaper or a web site should be wasted on these, neither any time on the media outlets. Insignificant mongrels....deserve drones.
Yep, all the FREE publicity is exactly what they want. Watch what happens in the Federal Court....these turkeys will promote their "style of living" to get more Muslim Terrorist recruits on the streets.
Federal Court ? You have to be kidding me.
It's not easy for us to drone people when they are in the United Kingdom.
Just sayin.
yes it is, weaponized drones are coming your way, there already in the U.S. google it.
I hope he suffers from waterbording in a couple days d gets to find out prettysoon that the 14
virgins he was hoping to get when he dies for being a Muslim hero are 14 dudes name BUBBA wo have not seen a woman in 50 years. Good luck Al-quida. You XXXX is grass and the USA is the lawnmower.
tom jefferson2, I see them everyday at work. Very rarely are they carrying weapons.
So what?
Rarely!!! Are you for real?
Holloman AFB, NM has Reaper and Predator drones.
This is nothing secret.
Again, so what?
If you think they're going to target the civilian population, you need to have your head examined.
Let the world see. They can hide but will be found. They can try but in the end, America will hunt them down and show them what happens when they seek to kill us.
OBL-sleeping with the fishes. So what if it costs a lot of money. Let them be tried by a jury of Americans and spend the rest of their miserable lives rotting in an American prison, where they belong.
Give them the rest of their lives to think about it.
OBAMA-BIDEN 2012
too bad he isnt "suffering" fist to nose syndrome on a daily basis............
Why keep them in a jail? don't they have any nice comfy pig stalls there? ( uncleaned of course) complete with a fireplace for the winter and a stack of Korans to burn to keep warm?
Security officer to his C.O. Well sarge it happened like this I was in transit with these terrorists and fell down exiting the vehicle, my side arm accidently wet off 17 times and killed them all. They should really put a warning lable on those darn glock 17s about leaving one in the chamber.
yep be a real shame Pan,
BTW mine was a 55.....yours?... shovel man now
Hey scooter, 55 also but alas mine is a pan, shovel now. Still have all the 55 bottom for her though. I have gotten old and brittle so the old girl doesn't get out much anymore. But my softtail gets plenty of action. Keep the wind in your hair and the bugs outta your teeth. Ride easy my friend.
translation;
your expense now.
"...caused blood to be shed, lives to be lost, and families to be shattered".
Sounds just like what the US did to Iraq.
No, pretty much what one sect of Muslims did to the other sect of Muslims (and all Christians and Jews and Ba'hai and etc.) and then what the other sect of Muslims did to the first (and as above.)
You've been drinking the Kool-Aid again. The US killed very few and lost a lot of lives. The deaths were by Muslim bombs and murder. Saddam used to cut the arms off children to punish their parents, for Crissake!!!
Warren
The US removed a murderous despot and took bullets to try and leave Iraq to its own people to run. Unfortunately, removing the despot opened the door for Shi'ite, Sunni and Kurd warfare, as Rachel alludes to.
and sounds like what the U.S. is doing to the U.S.
warren.....B.S.
and no tom, just what the libs are doing to the u.s.
tom jefferson2, you read way too many conspiracy novels.
Dude has no arms. I say cut off his legs,throw him in the ocean and change his name to Bob :)
BAAAAWWAHAHAHAHA.....
now THAT was a good one i tip my hat sir........you may have a cookie..............:)
Schoolyard
And give him a pineapple to live in and a squirrel with a goldfish bowl over his head as his friend. I like it.
Afternoon Scooter!
I say when you cut off his legs too, that will make him somewhat square - then use him for second base in the World series and all the speedster will slide in spikes first stealing second base. Then move him to 3rd base and repeat the process. - a little hymn perhaps? as in him him f*Ck him!
Take him waterskiing next and call him Skip.
Every month we seem to arrest terrorist who are at the nerve of al-qaida.Media error is made to the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of these types sadly we will never get all of them and how many more of our troops have to die and be wounded for the rest of their lives just to get all of them we may still be fighting in afganistan another 100 years or so perhaps www111 will come along and balance the evil
is there a translator on here today? i seem to have misplaced my gibberish to English dictionary........................
jimg probably has a BS degree - not from college or university but from the cow pasture - he read the thesaurus but has not quite figured how/where to place the wording in phrases or sentences. If he is a troll, he does not even rate in the novice category!
we CAN get ALL of them!! It just requires LARGE Doses of IONIZING RADIATION such as one gets with 20 MEGATON THERMONUCLEAR WEAPONS!!! The offspring of the survivors ( if any survive or reproduce) will be easy to pick out in security screenings (walk through a dark room). If they GLOW they DONT GO!!!
To Schoolyard:
Thank you for the smile you put on my face and the laugh that you put in my belly!!!!!!!! That was a great line!!
russell sobala does agree too
guilty of association is a strong proof they are part of the terrorist groups. beheaded them just like they do to their captives. Bringing them here is only a waste of resources or stripped them off with their citizenship and deport them to Israel.
And yes we did the same in Iraq obama promised us he would send our troops home from Iraq no what did he do sent them to Afganistan instead he lied straight faced.Obama administration makes daily excuses smoke screened and delivered for a just cause for his failed foreign policies that has gotten us in a heap of a mess there is no turning back the harm Barack has inflicted
Congratulations Jim!! You have been awarded "most ignorant poster" in today's lessons....
Jim try a little decaf. These @!$%#s has nothing to do with politics no matter how you hate Obama. I just hope you dont cry or berate Obama when he executes these Bastards.
Ted-2527253, regardless of the outcome of the coming election, Obama will be long gone before any of these scum are ever executed! The appeals process alone will take years. Look how long extradition took!
I think you'll note he is only carrying out Bush's policy. Make up your effing mind which side of the fence you want to be on before you impale yourself.
Oh jim.g, who lets dips3its like you have an opinion? It is quite obvious grammer wasn't your strong suit. Who really cares what happened in Iraq, when thousands of Americans died at the hands of merciless bastards like Bin-Laden and other scum??? Glad they're dead. Sad I wasn't the one to kill them. Now, have another snort and go to bed!!
Let's see how bad Holder screws this one up.
Hopefully Holder won't have the OPPORTUNITY to screw it up.
You can bet your sweet bippy they won't be held in the general lockup. There are some Americans in prison who would tear these savages limb from limb.
jonnybgood
you meant "hook from hook"
Just think for a moment that china has intercontinent missles aimed at the usa that could reach all erea's within minutes we would be off the map just what if we had a emp attack all electronics would be frozen in minutes the usa would be living the 1800s all over again.So who are the bad guys is it us the usa we got nuclear weapons too the so called bad guys i'm sure would like to disarm us as well we are not out of the woods yet before global peace and harmony occurs of course something is always strolling in the dark.
Another good one Jim! Ask yourself which country has actually used an Atomic weapon? Which country routinely invades other countries? Maybe ask yourself why China fears us so much? Yes, China can do all those things that you mentioned and the consequences would be just as devestating for them. Or should we just do a little pre-emptive strike just in case? I wish you would spend more time studying spelling and grammar and lay off the world politics
jim.g, did you ever hear of a comma, or a period? Look down at your keyboard, next to the M, that's called a comma. Look to the right of the comma, that's called a period. Learn how to use them properly!
I think JIM G's mind is strolling in the dark, lost, alone, confused, and FRIGHTENED!!!!, poor jim
When are the Bush administration war criminals going to go to trial or are they exempt from international laws as well as US laws.?
he is right now....tune your tinfoil hat to channel.........................
and tom jefferson2 ......join him.................
Ran, Dog, a post is a post! Regardless of it's content! Grammar Nazis need not apply! Attacking a post because of grammar is the weakest argument! There's NO requirement in the proper use of grammar to post. A voice is a voice! Get real! I don't agree with many posts and I refuse to pass judgement on a post due to grammar. Anyone, anywhere has their say and Grammar Nazis have no place in this arena, NONE! Ozzy, same here! Ain't on the job, grammar out the door fer me two! To the newly welcomed Islamists, don't forget to ask for extra butter to go with yer Tea-Baggin!!
everybody is going on about basically killing him yeah ok do that but what happens 10 more take his place then you kill them 1000 take their place and so on and so on throw the bastard in the deepest darkest hole and just forget about him for 100 years then go back open up the cell and tell everyone the @!$%#ers dead. the one thing the U.S goverment does not want to do is to make a martyr out of him or the @!$%#wits that went along with him.
and on a side note hes been fighting extradition for 8 or more years not the 1 year that has been suggested
John
who says you have to broadcast that he was executed? Same idea as you except why feed, clothe and provide medical care?
Looks like the only realistic option is to just keep killing them more quickly than these roaches pop up. I don't think we'll run out of bullets anytime soon. It would be preferable if they could just be roasted alive, but that takes too long.
Do you honestly believe the MEDIA would lay off broadcasting his execution???.HELL No!! It would be front and center every news paper...Every tv station..All outlets on the internet..EVERYTHING..Just smiling away hoping that it would insight something like is happening in Egypt right now..Then they could have something to report..
John Nugent, just curious, did you go to school with jim.g ?
Roast??? are you out of yer everluvin mind?! ya dont roast these fools, YA gotta DEEP-FRY em. Ya just got ta get a big enuf pot and sum bacon fat and ya can do 6 of them at one time, course ya gotta shave em fust cause y'all dont want no hair in yore food now d'ya?!!!
They should just disappear.
I don't agree with you often, but I think you have something there! Oh no, they must have escaped!
These are hardened terrorists who hate the USA, not common criminals who we hope to "rehabilitate" They are enemies of the US, murderers (the two embassies were mass murder) and there is no rehabilitation. Inject them and bury them in unmarked graves, and tell their friends they face the same.
Welcome to America, @!$%#s. Don't drop the soap.
Put these "Badasses" in a cellblock with Crips and Bloods. We'll see how tough they are. I'll be they'd offer to suck off everyone in the prison so they won'y get hurt.
Not so sure as most crips and bloods have converted to Islam during 1 of their many prison experiences. Now, the aryan nation prisoners might be another story.
It would seem that a good number of American citizens have forgotten that these political prisoners are innocent until proved guilty..
It is imperative that our treatment of these gentlemen is fair, transparent and pursued in a just and non predjudiced manner.
(wow.. the lawyers and jailers and all of those lucky individuals involved in the revenue stream are going to enjoy some very big pay checks!)
do the initials F. O. mean anything to you? and I am not alluding to forward observer!
exodus
nice try on the trolling....better luck next time and thanks for playing .... or as jack so eloquently put it............ f.o. ( you don't deserve capitol letters.)
HoooYahhh Scooter
Exodus probably will do a Cindy Sheehan or a Sean Penn to say how "bad America has been to you". At first, I thought the troll was ACLU but the last statement confirmed lawyer
because the only time jailers get big paychecks is when they are on the take.
suck a big one holmes - have you been over there? if you say you have, then you haven't been on the streets - how about a trip to sadr city - lets see how that goes. innocent until proven guilty only works in a civilized environment for one, two - our current judicial system is nothing but full of loop holes to be exploited so that the bad guy can get his way - and the laywer makes $$$$$
get a grip
Due process for these slime should be either a bullet or a needle........ NOW.... because they tried to escape. Who really cares what they and their fellow travelers think of us..... send them to hell with their allah.
Nah, they're guilty, that's why the UK sent them. The US will deal a harsher hand than the UK. The US has a huge problem with Illegals from south of the border and the UK has the same that Islamist extremismists fills their arena thanks to the lax laws of the Commonwealth before 9/11. In fact France joins the UK for Top Dog in ridding themselves of Islamist Extremists. Both European nations are more apt to export their headaches to the US because the US will deal stronger penalties than their laws will allow. They don't mind shelling a truckfull of Pounds or Francs out to finance an American trial. None at all. US does the same as do most nations. That's what made Sadat and Mubarrak so great in the eyes of the world's legal system pre 9/11. When it came to dealing with Islamic Extremists Egypt was more than happy to take them. It's called rendition. Know that game well! Slowly and surely the US is working to fill that void. Afterall, nobody has such a closed society as Gitmo either! Never know who's there and if they're still there. That's the reason some are set free. They'll tell others what the experience is like in Gitmo. Makes it harder and costlier for the terrorist recruiters to get the best to fill their ranks. Like I said, know that game well.
I hope you are being sarcastic, the Rights granted to us by our constitution pertain to CITIZENS and no others, EVERYONE seems to overlook that little gem!!!
hmmm...terrorists get to have a trial?? I thought only humans deserved that privilege...oh well, some whiny lib would boo hoo about their "rights" anyway...but only until one of these goat turd eaters blows himself up in their own neighborhoods...I say one bullet in the head, and stuff their carcasses with pork and toss them out of a plane towards whatever cave or dirt pile they were living in.
Waste of time to bring them here and put them on trial. The plane should have mysteriously gone down. These guys need some Middle-East style justice - chop off their heads or put a bullet in them. The world will not miss them, and the planet will keep spinning. I would expect the same to happen to me if I was kidnapped by them, and would, in fact, welcome death instead of years of torture. They have no moral high ground, so, in similar cases, we shouldn't either.
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I can agree with part of that statement -make it a drone aircraft ok; the aircrew does not deserve that. Or open the rear doors of the C-130 and load master in "monkey strap" holds on, while the pilot does a "shine your a$$" altitude climb of 45 degrees and the 4 terrs fall out.
I agreee drop them at 20,000 feet and let Ali catch them.
I have very little knowledge of the law, but I am guessing that the European court system would not hand them over to the US unless there was a promise of no death sentence.
I would guess that the very old prison in up state New York has been rebuilt since the 1930's gangster movies, too bad, it gets very cold in upstate N.Y.
please get some professional help - look on google and type in mental health givers and you can find one that will work with you