Israel said it struck targets in the Gaza Strip on Monday after Palestinian militants fired rockets at southern Israel in what they said was a response to an Israel airstrike that wounded two militants and eight bystanders.
Meanwhile, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, citing The Associated Press, said the Israeli air force flew mock raids over southern Lebanon after a mysterious unmanned aircraft was shot down over Israel over the weekend.
An Iranian military official was quoted as saying Monday that the drone's incursion exposed the weakness of Israeli air defenses, but did not confirm or deny Israeli charges that Tehran and southern Lebanon-based Shiite militia group Hezbollah were behind it.
Jamaluddin Aberoumand, deputy coordinator for Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, said the incident indicated that Israel's Iron Dome anti-missile defense system "does not work and lacks the necessary capacity," Fars news agency reported.
Israeli officials says a drone missile they shot down may have been saying on crucial sites. NBC's Duncan Golestani reports.
The Iron Dome system, jointly funded with the United States, is designed to shoot down short-range guerrilla rockets, not slow-flying aircraft. It intercepted more than 80 percent of the targets it engaged in March when nearly 300 rockets and mortars were fired at southern Israel, the Pentagon said at the time.
The drone was first spotted above the Mediterranean near the Gaza Strip to the west of Israel, said military spokeswoman Avital Leibovich. An Israeli warplane shot it down above a forest near the occupied West Bank.
Israeli parliament member Miri Regev, a former chief spokesman of the military, wrote on Twitter it was an "Iranian drone launched by Hezbollah."
Israeli defense officials have not confirmed the charge.
On at least one occasion, Iranian-backed Hezbollah has sent a drone into Israeli airspace. Also, in 2010, an Israeli warplane shot down an apparently unmanned balloon in the Negev near the country's Dimona nuclear reactor.
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Sunday's flyover by Israeli jets appeared intended to demonstrate to Hezbollah that Israel retained air superiority, according to the AP.
On Monday, the Israeli army said it had targeted "Hamas terror activity sites and terrorist squads responsible for the rocket fire"in Gaza, but gave no details.
Gaza hospital officials said one Islamic Jihad militant thought to have been involved in the rocket attack had been wounded by Israeli tank fire east of the town of Rafah.
Residents of the town of Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip said an Israeli tank fired at the suspected launch area, slightly wounding four children and damaging a mosque minaret and a water tower.
The Israeli army says 470 rockets have been fired from Gaza this year, 10 in October alone.
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The armed wing of Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist faction that controls the Gaza Strip, said it had carried out the latest rocket attack with the militant Islamic Jihad group.
It was the first time since June that Hamas had acknowledged launching rockets at Israel.
An Israeli military spokeswoman said some rockets had landed harmlessly near the border with the Gaza Strip.
An Israeli air strike on Sunday was aimed at two Palestinian militants, one of whom was critically wounded, as was one of the bystanders.
Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Will they ever learn. They act like children sometimes.
Unfortunately, the only way that Israel could ever put a complete stop to this would be to completely level Gaza, and they are not about to do that. This means that we will continue to see the militants launch rockets and Israel retaliate. Until the people of Gaza get tired of being bombed all the time and get rid of Hamas themselves, they will continue to pay the price for harboring these terrorists. Unfortunately, I do not see the people of Gaza ever doing this, so the back and forth attacks will continue. You can not blame Israel for shooting back and defending themselves.
I like how the NeoCons completely gloss over this part:
Israel said it struck targets in the Gaza Strip on Monday after Palestinian militants fired rockets at southern Israel in what they said was a response to an Israel airstrike that wounded two militants and eight bystanders.
So Israel can attack whenever and wherever. Israel, the only country in the world that is expanding in land area. I have no doubt their leaders read Mein Kampf because they are carrying out the same land expansion policy Hitler described, but just over a longer period of time so people will forget how they are taking land and expanding.
If Hitler applied did things the Israeli way over 50-60 years instead of 5 years, all of Europe could be Germany by now.
If Israel keeps targeting children there will be no one to grow into adults to defend their land.
And I like how you glossed over the 300 missiles and mortars shot into Southern Israel during the month of March.
And then you start spouting about Hitler....
The answer to peace doesn't go through you, Dipstick.
We'll be hearing more of these skirmishes, with Israel coming up with excuses for their terrorism against Palestinians. Remember, Netanyahu was blown out of the water with his ploy of trying to insult the U.S. and our Prez Obama with his Road Runner bomb at the UN fiasco. Now he's: 1) trying to save face; 2) working for Adelson, et al, to insult our President's policy of not going to war with Iran and they're hoping it'll cost the President votes. Who wants WAR? Netanyahu, Adelson, and the warmongering profiteers!
OBAMA-BIDEN 2012 and a strong Democratic Congress
Ummm..YO, sandman...whatever! Read it again, The rockets that were fired were a small part of the 470 fired this year! the targets for the retaliation were the militants that were wounded, I wonder what a 'civilian bystander' was doing with them??? Or, now pay close attention, I know how confused you lemonade drinkers get, the Palistinians KNOW that Hamas is shooting rockets, and they do ABSOLUTELY nothing! these are the same brotherly love jerks that danced in the streets, burned our flag after the Towers fell. OHHHHH, forgot that little part of the equation, did we??? Hmmmm, I guess just like pakistanis 'didn't know' a muederer was living amongst them either, huh? And please explain HOW Israel is expanding? since you know so much about Hitler, and run down Israel, I am of the conclusion that you are a neonazi trying to spread your special brand of 'love', right? You want sympathy for these jerks, look in the dictionary, it's right between SH*T and Syphilis.
earthwormgirl, you and your fellow anti-Zionists do NOT represent the Democratic voters, since many of us support Israel completely. In fact, I would not be surprised to learn that you are a staunch Republican yourself, trying to lure votes away from Obama by pretending that only pro-Palestinians support him.
Israel is less than one half, of one percent, of the Land mass of the middle east. They have left the Sinai peninsula,in pursuit of peace. They have left the Gaza strip, in pursuit of peace, and southern Lebanon, and have offered Judea and Samaria (the west bank) in hope of peace. All of this land was taken after attempts to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth by religious psychopaths.
Netanyahu was a soldier and knows more about soldiering than any of you posting on this forum. Most of our presidents and the people that post on this forum have never seen war, or anything like what goes on in Israel. So Until you do, stop posting about things you do not understand.
Earthgirl, you're so easy! The Israelis are the terrorists, and all the world does the bidding of teh Joos!!
Man, it's so KKKool to blame Israel for not allowing any peace in the region even though very recent history points out that the Israelis have made 3 state offers for peace to the Palestinians over the past 3 PM administrations, all of which were rejected without counteroffers!!!!
But, yeah, Earthgirl, she who just wants peace for all creatures on this planet, let's blame 3 Joos for ruining the world. That sounds rad.
@ Earthgirl............Netanyahu doesn't use "ploys" and as do all world leaders, just allow obama to insult and embarrass himself and degrade our nation, all by himself. Hope people don't vote for the two losers again, but we seem to have millions of unwise and parasitic voters on foodstamps
The people of South Sudan would argue that point.
At the rate they're going, they should control the earth about the time the sun burns out.
earthgirl...
I think its time you come back...to earth that is.
The reason we'll be hearing of more skirmishes is primarily due to this admins policies...or lack thereof! Look at what's happened in Egypt, Syria, and Libya so far. Just as Obama has done in this country...divided people and encourage them to fight amongst each other...
Obama and the dems are done...didn't you watch the debate? Can't wait to see Ryan vs Biden...LOL! Ought to be a real HOOT!
Anyone who compares Israel to the Nazis is either completely misinformed or completely NeoNazi.
As to this strike by Israel, it is obvious that a country which has the firepower that Israel has, and who responds with an attack severely wounding several terrorists, is focusing efforts on surgically attacking the perpetrators of this incident.
Note to innocent bystanders, don't stand next to Hamas operators who have launched rockets against Israel in the last 15 minutes.
We are the ones that wanted to open up the mid east to Democracy and let them choose their own leaders ...well guess what they did choose and they didn't choose the ones WE wanted ... Boy did we get surprised !!But hey we told them to choose and they did ...now next time maybe we should mind our own business !!
Sandman,
Rather then jump to conclusions you might wish next time to do a little research. The reason Israel attacked in the first place was to take out two known terrorist that were involved with multitude attacks against civilian and military personnel and were major weapons manufacture for Ha-mas.
So was this a strike out of the blue or what this a strike (just likes the U.S. does) against known terrorist? Why is it OK for the U.S. to take out terrorist and not Israel? By your remarks you show your ignorance by not researching the facts and your prejudiced ideology by judging everything Israel does (even in self defense) as aggressors.
When the Egyptian army were retreating in one war against Israel, they left behind their Arabic versions of Mein Kamp.
honestly, after reading some of the things i have and seeing some of the things i've seen on youtube....this is really starting to sound a little like hatfield and mccoy kinda garbage. he sneezed on a snail, so we stepped on a frog, then they shot a slingshot over the hill and put a dent in my tree, so we fired rockets. it's a load of BS.
dear middle east,
grow up! learn from history!! live and let live! you don't care about my god, i don't care about yours, so lets agree to disagree and go about acutally living versus what is currently happening.
Typical Palestinian Arab propaganda. They always accuse Israel of targeting their children, attacking their perverted religion and damaging their precious food sources. Hamas and Palestinians are always the instigators but when Israel retaliates they want to play the victim and will dream up a mountain of lies as evidence, it's the Muslim way.
kashmir08...
Not only not caring about their Allah...if you "dis" their almighty profit Mo...you get your head lopped off. What a bunch of uneducated, illiterate, wastes of humanity...
Do what you have to do ....
Kashiro.
You lump both sides together like they are both children.
You dont see Jews killing people who draw cartoons and make movies.
What you DO see, is an arab country and/or civilization, where, IN that civilization, it is illegal, under penalty of death, to mock their prophet - I say "FINE" ! IF you're in Iran, or Syria, or, wherever, and THEY, THAT country, has a death penalty for that conduct, simple -DONT go there, and , if you DO go there - be respectful and follow their laws.
However, that's not THEIR M.O.
Syria, Iran, etc., have blasphemy laws; BUT, to them, those laws apply world-wide, so, if you mock Mohammed in, say, NORWAY, it violates Iran's law and that Norwegian is subject to Irans deth penalty.
Dont you DARE talk to us about "both sides" living and let live.
You see Mosques and churches in Israel; would you SEE them if Israel was Arab controlled ? I dont THINK so. WAS their freedom of religion in the region before Israel was born ? I dont THINK so.
LOOK at the link below, to show these guys desecrating an Australian war cemetery - tolerance ? I dont THINK so.
Israel left Gaza YEARS ago - why are rockets still being fired from there ?
Better yet, WHY isnt Israel making incursions into WEST BANK ? GEE ! Do you think it might have something to do with ABBAS not letting West Bankers fire missiles into Israel ?
SO - in THIS case, Israel fires on Gazan MILITANTS, because Hammas killed 2 Israelis in response to Israel killing two of their with a drone. Gee - do you have problems with the U.S. sending in the drones to pick off militants ? Probably not...but this is ISRAEL ! We cant have THAT, now can we ?
You, and those of your ilk, are SO quick to blame Israel, and the region's problems, on Israel's occupation of the West Bank, and blockade of Gaza: Demonstrably false.
1. For your argument to hold water, you'd have to say that, prior to '67 (when Israel took WB & Gaza), there was peace. - Did you forget about '48 & '56 ?
2. As to the blockade of Gaza....you DO know, dont you, that Egypt ALSO has a border with Gaza ? and that NO Israeli blockade could work if Egypt didnt ALSO blockade ? I dont HEAR you blaming Egypt...why not ? Oh yeah..because we're talking about ISRAEL.
So, dont give us your crap. SOMETIMES, it IS possible to know which came first, the chicken or the egg.
"Sunday's flyover by Israeli jets appeared intended to demonstrate to Hezbollah that Israel retained air superiority,"
Of course they will defend themselves, but do they have to instigate more attacks with stunts like this? I don't see this ending until someone nukes them or they go "Nazi" and "purify" the region (disputed territories). Even then it won't end. There are too many Muslims that want Israel destroyed, so I don't even think they can win in the long run. The settling of Palestinian land has to stop, they are doing to them what we did to native Americans. Move in, encroach, if they attack they are slaughtered. Its a very methodical process.
Thank you Jeff-573598 for a great post!!!
I don't see what the problem. Let's continue to have all these countries fight and have the fighting escalate and spill into neighboring countries. Let's get some of the major players involved and have them go at each others throats. Let's start World War 3 with a few thousand nuclear missiles winking out millions of lives across the world. What a pretty sight it will be. And then for those that are left, they can rebuild slowly and once again find new things to fight about and kill for, YEAH.
Except that Israel was home to the Jews before the Palestinians..
Pound them into dust.
Let the jews and muslims kill each other off already, holy crap. They're going to act like children anyways...
Newswinner: What you fail to understand is that Muslims are a threat to the US and all other faiths as well. For example:
Consider the January 29, 2012 "Israel vs. Iran" article in the New York Times were it was noted that, "The Iranian regime will be several times more dangerous if it has a nuclear device in its hands...one that it could bring to the United States. It is not for nothing that it (i.e., Iran) is establishing bases for itself in Latin America and creating links with drug dealers on the US-Mexican border. This is happening in order to smuggle ordnance into the United States for the carrying out of terror attacks. Imagine this regime getting nuclear weapons to the US-Mexican border..."
Wow, the Ultra-libs are out in force embarrassing the average American (especially your intelligent democrat moderate) with racist comments again. To you idiots (earthgirl, sandmantruth, etc), you again prove what kind of intolerant, hypocritical, hate spewing, racist you really are as your the first to call others by every dirty name possible if their views don't line up with yours.
The Iranians already have dirty bombs and bio weapons and chemical weapons they got from Iraq but they want a big boy toy in the worst way.. The terrorists keep shooting rockets and mortars into Israel and the occupied areas just to keep the provocation level up.. Firing them from school yards and residential areas because they want the Israeli artillery or bombs to kill bystanders so they can cry about it.. A sick deadly Islamic cult game..
@Tbenton Since you are so informed please explain WTF the tank was doing shooting into a "suspected" launch area. What the recent drone that was shoot down has to do with those two men/terrorists? I really hope you had more evidence then just suspicion or did you use the same level of evidence which is NONE? In this country we have to present EVIDENCE. SOMEONE is innocent until proven guilty. How can anyone think it is ok to shot a random tank shell or to drop a bomb into an area without ANY evidence?
They only launched 10 missiles. Did any of those 10 do anything? Why all the fuss? What was the reason for the tank? I am still trying to understand WTF the tank was needed for, or the bomb for that matter.
They make the Hatfields and McCoys look like best friends. Just like two little kids the only way to get them to stop arguing is to remove what they are arguing about. No matter which group controls that piece of land one of the other two groups will not be happy. The only solution that works for everyone and does not pick a side is to. Step 1, move everyone out of Israel. Step 2 nuke the material without killing anyone and make it uninhabitable for 1000 years. No one wins and everyone loses, since we cannot/refuse to get along with each other. Maybe in 1000 years we might be able to get along with each other...(I do think it will take longer then that, but it would be a start).
I am not cursing the Jewish people, I am merely removing the material in conflict, the land. If God wanted to remake that land he could do so in an instant. How many times did he kick you out of your own land? Maybe it is HIS still and not really "yours". It is noting more then worthless material that in millions or billions of years WILL NOT BE THE F*** THERE ANYWAY. I hope the human race is still alive to outlive that useless piece of F***ING land. How many people have to die of the SAME STUPID PIECE OF LAND? More people have died over that one piece of land then any other piece of land in our history. More then likely the human race has FAILED before and this would not be the first time that we have slid down the technology ladder back into the stone age.
How about the tower of Babel. Humanity thought it was so smart that it could build these amazing structures, control water, grow crops, etc. that we thought we could build a ladder to go see/talk to God. We did not know that we needed to bring oxygen with us and could not figure out why we could not go any higher. The project lost steam after that, had consumed most of the resources in that area, and people scattered. How long did it take humanity to recover?
propaganda on both sides. Question for all you Libertarians and warhawks: Please tell me what is in the U.S. constitution which says the government of the U.S. is mandated to protect Israel "at all costs"? Someone will say, we have "treaties"; OK, go with that one!
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/history.html
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/iran.html
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0745311512/qid=1106194507/sr=2-2/ref=pd_ka_b_2_2
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/01/24/050124fa_fact
BUt, the Isreali sympathizers on this thread wil collapse my post immediately as they do not wish for Americans to question why we spend so much money and lives "defending" Isreal.
Do you mean the rational human beings?
http://markhumphrys.com/left.israel.html
Hi FZknew: Glad to meet you again. Hope you had a good weekend.
No one said the US is "mandated" to protect Israel "at all costs" or to do anything else for that matter. The US is not forced to do anything it does not want to do. I guess they felt it has been morally justified to do so and also expedient given that Muslim extremism affects us all, not only the Jewish people. Also, we cannot afford to be isolationist, given the global economy. Our own standard of living and values are at stake.
Just like the excuse that they killed our diplomat because of the film, they constantly make up reasons to attack isreal! Even if Isreal packed up and left the middle east withall their people the VIOLENT WAR MONGERING MUSLIM REIGION WOULD JUST FIND ANOTHER REASON TO ATTACK SOMEONE ESE!
They wil not stop until the whole world is muslim,that is their goal. To achieve total world domination. They wil not be happy until every person on earth is under theri subjigation and every woman wears a burka. Then , after that they will go on to fight in tribal conflicts.
The only way to end the problem is to make an example of one or two of the countries that support them. Completely level one(IRAN) and see how long Hamas exists without govt support. I dont want to send in troops, Im tired of losing our brave young men for people who dont appreciate it. SO, the only way is to use a weapon that will destroy large areas of the earth and make them permanently unlivable.
If they still piss and moan , level the next one. Eventually they will stop fighting or stop existing. As I believe they will always find a reason to fight and kill to suit their own desires, There just isnt any other way to stop it. KILL THEM ALL (if they want a global law, I say lets make one that outlaws the worshiping of a pedophile and make the muslim religion ILLEGAL) AND LET alah SORT THEM OUT! If their religion is wrong then we are rid of them, If their religion is right then we've done them a favor and given them all a bunch of virgins to screw forever. By the way... forever is a LOOOOOONG time. Are they magical virgins? Does their virginity grow back? You would have to have an awful lot of virgins to last you an eternity! If it doesnt grow back then what happens to them after yoyve used them? Do they just wander around for an eternity? What about the women, do they get a bunch of virgins? THIS RELIGION IS SO STUPID, ITS WHOLE DESIGN IS TO START WARS AND KEEP THE KILLING AND OPRESSION OF HUMAN GOING FOREVER. LETS MAKE A GLOBAL LAW AGAINST ISLAM AND NUKE ALL ISLAMIC NATIONS INTO THE SUBJIGATION THEY WANT TO ENFORCE ON US.
Im sorry if I sound hatefull. I try very hard to understand and tollerate all points of view but these monsters are really making it hard. I'd have to say this is the first general group of people I am hating on. They need to be erased!
FZknew
Frank knew all about the coming "Arab-Islam Problem" and said so publicly long ago in the late seventies. He was also wrong about Sykes-Picot and most likely would have changed his opinion of that if he had a better understanding of it- that it did not contribute materially or philosophically to the situation we have in Israel.. of course he would maintain his healthy disdain of reckless colonialism.
The U S media trying to draw us into another war. How many other countries lobed bombs back and forth at each other this month - with no mention of it by U S media...played again. Here comes another trillion in spending - I need to invest in Raytheon.
The tank happened to be at the right place to fire at the time. One needs to go over there and look at the boarders to Gaza and then the West Bank, you will see a huge difference in how the boarders are secured and the military presence there because they do not have to worry about the West Bank Shooting missles, morters and guns at them like they do with the Gaza Strip. The way to stop the firing is to have Gaza follow the path of the West Bank and stop firing upon Israel.http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=162501333
To take care of your proof I will also include links, but have found out that hatred needs nor wants evidence, it always stands in the way of ones hate.
And for the firing of missles at palistinians you might wish to look at;http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/08/us-palestinians-israel-violence-idUSBRE89707020121008
Besides why are these people first claiming this is not their drone that went over Israel and then next firing rockets at them for shooting it down, does not make sense.
Tbenton: Would you kindly explain how you are able to copy and paste links to Newsvine? Whenever I attempt to do so the link disappears when the post is saved. BTW: Good post. Actually, just noticed you don't leave a space between the previous sentence and the link.
It's looks like you are still in the "greenhouse" and can not post links. You have no "vine" symbol on your page. I think you need two branches on the vine, to post links.
Everybody get ready!
thanks kpr37
They should have thought its friends' salvos
Open this and see how Israel got it land
I wonder what the Palestinian militants were thinking when they fired rockets into southern Israel? What good purpose did that serve?
No Terrorists never learn. It is in their DNA.
Your right. Sons of Ishmael, a wild ass of a man, who will have his hand against everyone and everyones hand against him.
Israel wants to start another war.
Somebody lobs some ordinance into your backyard....what would you do? Sounds to me like the Palestinians are the ones who want the war. What happened to your first and second life...wasted them as well?
Yeah. Existence sure is a fighting word.
Thirdrail.
It's the Arabs that want to "wipe the Jews from the face of the earth" ( Iran's dicktator Adickuphisassjad made it clear at the U.N meeting) .
3rd Life, Israel wants to be left alone, that's it, nothing more. When you lose a war you "don't" get to set the conditions of your surrender. They should never have given Gaza back. Muslims live to kill, and fight. They hate each other almost as much as they hate the west. Third world forever.
bagdadjoe: Read both sides before commenting. You and us will be better for it.
@ Earthgirl..... another duh, on your part. You fail to understand either part before commenting.
earthgirl,
"You and us will be better for it." Well that explains your level of intelligence and/or education , "You and us..."?!!!
@ lee: Actually, AhMyDinnerJacket and his Iranian thugs are Persian--not Arab.
And your point Jay?
No point, Rex, just a clarification. I gave lee a 'thumbs-up', BTW. When people make points that contain errors, it cheapens the point they are trying to make.
Oh yeah, 3rd life ?
"another" war ?
Which one or ones did she start ?
ALL wars, (with the exception of '67) were started by the arabs. NOW, as to '67, while correct that Israel struck first, it was only after.....
a. The combined forces of Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria massed at the borders, AND;
b. Nassar (Egypt) gave the U.N. "peacekeeping force" 24 hours to get out of Sinai, or be killed "along with the Zionists". (of course, the nutless/gutless force left, saying "we are a peace keeping force, not a fighting force); so, yeah, Israel struck first.
Yes, yes, I KNOW that, had it been ANY other country, a preemptive strike under those circumstances would be fine with you...but, this time...it's ISRAEL - we cant have THAT now, can we ?
Do you really think that if Israel were left alone and not attacked that they would be attacking areas in Gaza? Please get real.
I guess they don't have hornets over there or the Palestinians would realize if you poke at their nest you're going to get stung.
Let me know when Israel goes a pair an attack Iran on it's own.
MCR.
I nod shur wuz da rrreal prupuss ov yurrrr shtupid conmnet... haz yooou beeeen hitttttn de bodddle aw liwittle hevvvyy to o o!
Israel wiped out Iraq's nuclear capabilities on its own back in the 1980s. Which made Poppa Bush's war in the 1990s quite feasible. During which the Iraqis attacked Israel and the States told Israel, Hey don't worry about it.
The lack of historical intelligence isn't shocking, but rather apropos for dip@!$%#s like you to spout.
Stay stoopid.
bagdadjoe: Like I said, read the history. Israel wanted to expand and started taking without asking. When Palestine took a stand, Israel cried to the U.S. and received armaments. What did the Palestinians get? The bullets from U.S. guns. At one time they lived together, neighbors in peace, no rancor. All that changed when Israel kept taking and it hasnt stopped. BTW, Ahmadinajed was not translated correctly. Read the original transcripts from a non biased site instead of what Americans are given to read.
Earthgirl has a warped perspective of history in the Middle East. Pray tell, Earthgirl, if the Palestinians were all about peace, then why did they reject 3 state offers over the past 3 Israeli administrations? If you love peace so much, how come you overlook these 3 state offers and their rejections without even one counter proposal?
I'll tell you why.... It has something to do with the fact that you are not a balanced player in this situation. You are welcome to support whatever side you choose, but don't think that you are on the correct side of history. Kind of hard to be that way when you simply blame Israel for this, that, and every other thing with which you don't agree.
But, hey, that's never stopped an ill informed wannabe peace lover from posting on the internet all day about how big, bad, and mean tohse Israelis really are. And who would know better but a know nothing internet message board poster such as yourself? I say, KKKeep blaming Israel for everything, and eventually the Arabs will finally rise up and be done with that dastardly Jooish state which is in existence only because of the US, even though the US didn't fully support Israel's defense until after 1967, which was when the third of five existential wars the state of Israel had successfully faced down.
Because if anyone knows anything about the Middle East it's the automatons who post ad nauseum about the evil Jooish state. Yup. That's the ticket.
earthgirl: I feel sorry for you... You don't get what happened and are only spouting Propaganda BS.
Lets see Palestine started it and lost. End of Story. Now they cry about it and you defend them like the perfect little Nazi you are.
Hitler hated the Jews and killed millions of them.
The Palestine's like Iran wants to wipe the Jews off the face of the planet too.
So let me ask you something Earthgirl whats it like to belive and want the same thing of the most evil man ever to live. The complete extermination of the Jewish people.
So go put on your Black Jack boots, Brown Uniform and a Red Swastica armband on.
Earthgirl you can't just make up history and repeat it like its truth. Yes, take your own advice and read history. You can even read the short version--just google it
Earthgirl
In Israel, 20% of the population is MUSLIM ARABS living peacefully. How many Jews do you think can live peacefully in the Palestinian camp? Give's you an idea who the hatefull war mongers are.
3rd Life, Israel wants to be left alone, that's it, nothing more. When you lose a war you "don't" get to set the conditions of your surrender. They should never have given Gaza back. Muslims live to kill, and fight. They hate each other almost as much as they hate the west. Third world forever.
Earthgirl sounds like a Palestinian or one of those brainwashed Islamic sympathizers. Tell me, earthgirl, if Israel is expanding, why then, does it now have 1/3 less land mass than it did after the six day war? You should run for political office, you talk just like a politician, IF they're (and you're) mouth is moving, they are lying. Stop drinking the kool-aid, it's laced with stuff that makes you stupid and compliant.
@ earthgirl.....
By "NONBIASED" do you mean IRANIAN or MUSLIM or ISLAMIC? Yeah your right ... NO WAY they would be biased right?(extreme sarcasm) Put your burka back on and go back to iran/pakistan so you can produce more ignorant suicide bombers!
Theese people kill just as many of their own kind as they do westerners! They live to murder, thats it, thats all, and there aint no more to it than that!
"And Gaza Shall be Forsaken and Ashkelon a Desolation. They Shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day and Ekron Shall be rooted up." Zephaniah 2:4 If GOD says Gaza Shall be Forsaken, then it Will. Time for Israel to turn it into a Permanent Wasteland. GOD Bless the IDF. Beware-Prepare-Defend!
Alan. What a croc of dookie. There are plenty of Palestinians who just want the same things that you or I do; peace, security, commerce, education. Here in the states we marginalize everything down to the 1st dimension. Hamas provides many social and humanitarian services to the Palestinian people therefore(in a place with little hope) they naturally turn to Hamas. The way you trivialize the killing of human beings in the name of "god" makes you no better than Hitler, Bin Laden, or______________. The only difference(thank God, Buddah, Allah, Vishnu, or____________— .) is that you are too stupid to elevate yourself beyond your limited intellect
@RandogM...
"Hamas provides many social and humanitarian services to the Palestinian people"
Yeah and the NAZI party gave germans hope for a while too. If the palestinians who want security,commerce and education really do, then turn over the terrorists hiding in the mosques, schools, hospitals and next to the water towers and isreal wont have a reason to attack.
Israel shoots at Palestine, Palestine shoots as Israel, Syria continues to tear itself apart, Islam continues to insist it is the religion of pieces, jews continue to think there is a place for them in the modern world, and humanity backslides a little further into The War of Imaginary Friends (who don't really like you).
This is NOT news. This is Olds.
Same Old $hit from the Middle East, Different Day of the Week
So what is your solution indigo-rage, go Hitler on their arses? I suggest to everyone that they pay attention to what is going on, getting lulled to sleep by the monotony of it can be dangerous.
Tracy:
You have to admit it would solve a lot more problems than it would create.
Just as long as the remaining landmasses could not be claimed by any non-neutral nation or corporation.
Know Middle East, No Peace.
No Middle East, Know Peace.
Indigo,
It might come as a surprise to you, but the good Christians of Europe have spent centuries fighting each other before they started messing around in Middle East. In fact, Middle East used to be much quieter for a few centuries, right before the Crusades.
The problems of human violence are not confined to Middle East, or any other areas. They are worldwide, and the best instruments for spreading them are trigger-happy idiots who think that blowing up a continent is a way to solve all problems.
Combining the words "good" and "christian" in the same sentence can be dangerous territory. Far too many of my ancestors learned the hard way what they were all about.
So, you don't like Christians either, not just Muslims or Jews.
Well, in that case you might want to explore the history of USSR and other countries who stuck to atheism within socialism. If you read up on them and still like them, go buy a ticket to North Korea and enjoy.
NoPossibleAnswer banned, death wishing an entire nation.
From the article: "Sunday's flyover by Israeli jets appeared intended to demonstrate to Hezbollah that Israel retained air superiority, according to the AP."
Duh! I think that demonstration is unnecessary. Where is the Palestinian Air Force? The Iranian Air Force is no great shakes, either.
Yes, Mickey - poor journalism; a poor choice of words.
I dont think anybody thinks that Israel has lost superiority; I think a better term would have been "exclusivity".
The reporter doesn't know the difference between a flyover and an air strike.
Time is not on the side of Israel. They can not stop Iran from getting the bomb and when Iran gets it, it will be a different ball game.
The "New Ball Game" might be call "Crispy Critters." Israel has Jericho III ICBMs, missile submarines and winged aircraft that carry nuclear weapons.
Time may not be on their side. But God is. :D
@ Kristim71..... Oh but don't forget mohammud is on their side........ hee hee hee ...........So little time and so many lost souls following a self appointed, false prophet.
But isn't Mohammad the scum sucking pedophile, womanizer that these a**holes prey too. Mohammad is to busy getting a BLOW JOB from the little boy he kidnapped to answer there prayer's.
Isn't Israel giving the terrorist what they want? - 72 virgins - and if an Atheist is hit then the primordial mud puddle accepts the molecules for another attempt at evolution.....
How long now before israel EXPECTS and DEMANDS that the USA come to their aid? I hope that whoever is in the White House will say, "Sorry, we are BROKE from fighting everyone's wars, battles, conflicts, bitch sessions so, we are not playing Police Of The World anymore." Tired of borrowing money to give financial aid and military assistance to everyone else. Bring all the financial aid and all our troops home and protect the USA and rebuild the USA. Israel needs to be prepared to get along or defend itself.
God turns His back on a nation that will not stand with Israel. Hence the chaos we have in our country today. I know you, most likely, don't believe that. I don't care if you don't. It's the truth.
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I agree that Israel needs to be prepared to defend itself. Iran will get a nuclear bomb and while many Iranian people ( yes there are jewish and christian Iranians) are wonderful --their leader, military and conservatives will try to provoke Israel. They have said in their official statement they want to see Israel wiped off the face of the Earth.
AMerica will be next, don't fool yourselves into believing Iran doesn't have plans to wipe us out too. Honestly Israel is our best first defense and informant on middle east tensions.
Conservative muslims literally believe we have no right to exists, we are lower than dogs and deserve to be killed. me you and our children, our freedom and our way of life. Don't ever forget that
Turning our back on Israel would be a fatal blow to our country. We have "bailed out" many a nation over the passed 200 + years, but since the re-establishment of the State of Israe after WWII we have kept her alive and safe in a sea of arab enemies. The USA is NOT too big to fail, if God removes His Holy Hand from us and that will be our own fault, due to wrong choices. Like: homosexuality, abortion, electing leaders that claim we are not a Christian nation, removing God from our schools, pandering to religious cults(islam), the list goes on. His patience are wearing thin by now, I imagine. So God may be ready for His Eastwood impersonaion.... "go ahead make my day" ............quit backing Israel. Personally, I stand with Israel and wll stand by The One True God.
No, you are NOT smarter than a 3- year old.
Israel has no power to make demands on the U.S. - that is a fable by the anti-israel lot.
The U.S. is not fighting Israel's wars - Israel has NEVER asked for troops, just arms (and, DONT think other countries are not arming the Arabs..but THAT's ok with you).
Any 3rd grader would know that, first, Israel would be physically outnumbered by another full court press by her neighbors, and, with other countries arming the Arabs, IF the U.S. stopped selling arms to Israel, she would only have th option of NONconventional arms to protect herself;
Yes..THAT would stabilize the region, wouldnt it ?
Me thinx you're not giving 3rd graders enough credit.
Nice Jeff.
For those (earthgirl, dumberthanathirdgrader, etc) that don't know history and keep spouting about Israel trying to expand, you all need to learn ancient geography and see how many people on Israel's borders were never there before. They aren't expanding, quite the opposite, over the years they have conceded lands that were historically theirs to try to keep peace. When you are surrounded by phycho little a-holes like amanejackoff and the extremest Muslim tribes that are vowing (and have for years) that they would drive every last Israelite from the face of the earth (in other words complete what Hitler started out to do), how would you react if you were them?
By the way, you idiots that call others racist and bigots and such, but then side with those that have vowed genocide against the Israelis, really need to re-evaluate your lives.
all this reminds me of watching a toilet flush.the turds go round and round until theyre gone.
Waiting for someone to say Israel staged the entire thing so they would have an excuse.......Just wait someone will say it ....
They already did.
I knew that was coming ...
PVal and Bensgpa, was too predictable that they would. Some of the liberals on here are so racist it isn't even funny. I am not sure that they realize that anti-semetism is considered a hate crime.
Perhaps our President should read things before he signs them....Please read below
On July 27, 2012, US President Barack Obama signed S. 2165, the United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act in the Oval Office. An official posting on The White House Blog revealed that:
Famlies dont get along there is no chance they will get along. Their core beliefs are to deep
Warmonger Nethanyahu is at it again continuing his genocide. Retaliation is just an a licence to kill innocent Palestinians.
Tony, were you in the streets cheering with all the "innocent" Palestinians on 9/11?
If all terrorists are islamists and all islamists are muslim, then all terrorists must be_____________?
Genocide ? Really Tony ?
Interesting term.
Assad has killed more of his own countrymen THIS year than all the years of the Intifada COMBINED.
Are you a hammer ? A screwdriver ? Sometimes I cant tell TOOLS like you apart.
The time is long overdue to neutralize the iranian scumbags. These godless, pig sodomizing freaks must be eradicated.
we all should be.
Israel is a small country with the ability to strike back like a WASP.
Better watch your butt hezbolla and iran, Israel will wipe both of your garbage scumbag terrorist groups off the face of the earth.
And with the strength of America behind Israel neither of you murdering, child killing terrorist pieces of crap will stand a chance.
It would take Israel about 1 week to disable iran and turn their terrorist butts into sand just like the desert they live in, and don't even think Israel can't or won't do it.
Level the place
HERE! HERE!! :)
Then we can all celebrate.
All of you "blame the jews" idiots would be rioting in the streets for war if those rockets were hitting your little burbs.
Israel has shown more restraint than any country on earth. If you had a clue about history, and the arab wars against israel you might understand, instead, you just spout the same tired retoric that you learned from your liberal arts teachers in college.
The same guys that ran to Canada during vietnam.............
Bravo. Well said, weathermen.
HIP HIP HOORAY !! Dead on Weatherman !!
Weatherman, i object to your statement about liberal arts teachers,, I consider myself Liberal but fully support the State of Israel. Also I personally don't know any libs that support Palestinians, Iran, or any of the Arab nutions..(sic)...A strong Israel benefits the world.
Couldn't have said it much better Weatherman............... Israel is showing constraint, it gets on average 3-6 missles a day.... NOT 2 like it says in the article.. Have you been there ??? All modrn homes are equiped with bomb shelters, by law.. Every Israeli goes to bootcamp and the weapons they are issued goes home with them. They are prepared for an invasion. They are God's chosen people and I don't think you will EVER see them lose a battle..........
Earthgirl,
You are the typical moron in this country whose logic is seriously flawed. Israel lives under constant attack from the Arab garbage. The Arabs target innocent civilians with rockets, suicide bombers, etc.. Israel targets the terrorists which mingle with the Palestinian civilians some of whom are terrorists themselves.
Israel, unlike the United States, has the courage to defend their country.
Coach, are you really that f ing stupid? You saying the US doesn't have the courage to defend ourselfs? Try lobbing a rocket or two into the US from either Canada or Mexico and see what happens. You need help, but there is no help for being stupid.
SallyAnn:
Dont be so hard on Coach - really.
You are taking him too literally.
When he implies that the U.S doesnt have the courage to defend itself, he is probably referring to our political correctness in defense of our country...and he DOES have a point, if you're open minded enough to hear it.
The fact is, we DONT control our borders; LOOK at the violence in border areas of Texas, Arizona and California. WE are too afraid of being labeled "racist". The TSA cant search more than "x" number of Muslims. We allow suspect Muslims into our universities, despite credible evidence that they are anti-U.S.
When a Michigan Divorce court upholds a Sharia provision for a divorce pending in Michigan, WE have a problem. When WE arrest a U.S. citizen for making an anti-Islam movie, under the pretext of a "probation violation", WE have a problem. When we have a President who bows to a Muslim Cleric, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
I'm not saying you're completely wrong, Sallyann...I'm just saying that Coach is not completely wrong either.
SallyAnn, there is more than one need to defend yourself it doesn't have to be a rocket or any other kind of explosive. It could be economic, laws, rights immigration legal /illegal and so on that you have a need to defend yourself. I think you will find that coach is commenting on the total stupidity of Earthgirl who appears to have no knowledge whatsoever of the middle east war between Israel and Arab countries.
Israel is a country that picks on the unarmed poorly equiped neighbors, such as Lebanon and the peoplke of Gaza, both who have absolutely no way to bring down an Israeli F16. In 2006, Israel conducted massive air strikes on Lebanese cities and towns, killing well over 1000, people, mostly women and children.
The Israelis are cowards and yellow to the core, which is why they are trying mightily to get the US to attack Iran. When they actually got the courage to fight Hezbollah on the ground, the Israeli forces were whipped and fled back to Israel in disgrace.
Stop all aid to Israel, a country of parasites.
If people try to kill you, you try to kill them first, before they get the chance. That's why Israel still exists.
Wow!
He is still trying to convince us that Israel got defeated by Hezbollah, who started a pointless war, sacrificed a few thousand of their people (including civilians behind whom Hezbollah militants were hiding like cowards they are) and did not get even an inch of land out of it.
Although, got to love their ability to put up a charade:
Shoot at them until they strike back, when they do strike back, have the civilians take the punch for you. When you can not shoot any more, they will see that their job is done and live. Then announce: "Look they are leaving! We won!" Then everyone who is still alive can celebrate.
This technique seemed to have helped Nasrallah stay in power for a few more years. No wonder Ahmadinejad and Khomeini now want to apply the same technique.
Hey Eli - Read these comments from Israelis, who probed the Israeli fiasco. Israeli pilots flew over 12,000 combat missions over Lebanon and dropped over 4 million cluster bombs and they IDF still lost. It isd astounding that Jews think Israel would be a match for Iran, without using nuclear weapons.
Due to these pressures, on 11 October, Admoni was replaced by retired justice Eliyahu Winograd as chair of the political probe, and the probe itself was elevated to the status of governmental commission with near-state commission mandate: the Winograd Commission. On 12 September, former defense minister Moshe Arens spoke of "the defeat of Israel" in calling for a state committee of inquiry. He said that Israel had lost "to a very small group of people, 5000 Hezbollah fighters, which should have been no match at all for the IDF", and stated that the conflict could have "some very fateful consequences for the future."[305] Disclosing his intent to shortly resign, Ilan Harari, the IDF's chief education officer, stated at a conference of senior IDF officers that Israel lost the war, becoming the first senior active duty officer to publicly state such an opinion.[306] IDF Major General Yiftah Ron Tal, on 4 October 2006 became the second and highest ranking serving officer to express his opinion that the IDF failed "to win the day in the battle against Hezbollah" as well as calling for Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz' resignation.[307] Ron-Tal was subsequently fired for making those and other critical comments.
I cannot wait to read your comments. I can always prove what I write, whereas, youand your professional Zionist friends can only submit Israeli propaganda.
As usual, your "proof" consists of quoting people no one ever heard of as if their word is the law.
Not that it matters in this case. I am well aware that Israelis do not feel like they won that war. They failed to rescue two kidnapped soldiers and they lost almost 200 people in the process, while fighting such an inferior foe, they should have been able to get it done with no casualties.
So, is that what makes it a great victory for the Lebanese? Half the country is in ruins, thousands are dead, but Israelis are upset and that makes it all worthwhile.
If that's your idea of victory, Iran might not disappoint you yet. If they take out even just a couple dozen Israelis, that will be already enough to upset the rest. So, even if they loose a couple million Iranians in the process, their government and you will feel like it's a great victory.
If that's how it works for you, by all means, enjoy.
Admittedly, Israel destroyed much of Lebanon's infrustructure with their air attacks, but when fighting on the ground occurred, the IDF was soundly defeated by a much smaller force.
The idea that the IDF is a superior fighting force is a myth. Israel is a country that only gets by because of America's donations of military hardware, especially airplanes.
It only proves my point that Israel attacks the weak and defenseless. Iran can and will fight back, if Israel ever gets the balls to try an attack (they won't). It might be Israeli cities in ruins, as well as Iranian cities. If Israel uses nukes, the fallout could get Russia involved, which would make it curtains for Israel.
Stop American support for the greedy Israeli parasites.
Israel attacks those who threaten them, weak or strong. If Lebanese had not kidnapped those two soldiers their cities would not be in ruins, and all those who were killed, would be still alive.
Now, it's the same for Iran. If they stop pushing, they wont be attacked, but if they keep pushing, they will suffer the consequences.
And don't expect Russia to come to Iran's rescue. For your information, I grew up in Russia and still have plenty of friends there, so I know for a fact that there is not pro-Iranian sentiment there. 20% of Israelis speak Russian, you might see them as evil joooose, but to many Russians they are relatives, childhood friends, or former neighbors. Sure, there is plenty of anitsemites in Russia, but they wont help you either, because for all their hatred of Jews, they hate Muslims even more, and if you want to know why, just google "Nord Ost".
This is just a typical day in Israel- news?
I say Israel should just go ahead and blow 'em off the map. Get it over with.
Islam is the enemy of the rest of the world. The Koran says it, it is preached from the muslim pulpit, most muslim leaders have issued proclamations to that effect, and the history of Islam is conclusive proof.
Someday we will stop smooching their behinds and treat them with the same effective, mind-changing procedures that turned Germany and Japan into friends instead of enemies during WWII. A year or two of TOTAL WAR with no restraint. Otherwise, like Germany and Japan before WWII, they will grow stronger, better armed, more arrogant and more in need of having the hammer dropped on them.