Yumpin' Yemeni!

Man, how can you possibly even bring up W. right now? He's gone! Not everything that happens is his fault! What is your president (the one with the functioning brain) doing about this situation? That is exactly the problem with people today. You are completely missing the fact that the one in office right now isn't doing his d#%n job. You still want to blame "little george". haha Give me a break. It is time for you people, and I do mean you people, to wake up and take ownership of the mistake you elected for presidential office. Stop blaming W. It's been 4 years.

What did Biden say? Osama is dead and so is al qaida?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/washington/15581902-452/reporter-lara-logan-brings-ominous-news-from-middle-east.html

She explained that the Taliban, al Qaeda and its proxies haven’t gone away and are in fact re-energized and coming back in force. Logan also informed the crowd that a “lie” is being propagated by the American government.

Good luck on that debate tonight....FOOL!

Obama also says that America has come back stronger and al-Qaeda is much weaker.

He continued, "The last decade has been a difficult one, but together, we have answered those questions and come back stronger as a nation. We took the fight to al Qaeda, decimated their leadership, and put them on a path to defeat. And thanks to the courage and skill of our intelligence personnel and armed forces, Osama bin Laden will never threaten America again."

http://www.policymic.com/articles/14429/9-11-anniversary-president-obama-says-america-is-safer-with-him-as-president

that's what you got out of that? my whole point was to stop blaming W.

Master Joseph

I'm not BLAMING little George, I'm stating a fact! He was a @!$%#up president.

Agreed. Bush drove the car into a ditch and Obama has spent almost four years sitting in it and spinning the wheels. Trying to decide which of them is more to blame is a lot like trying to figure out how to pick up a dog turd by the clean end.

I think we are seeing a change on targets from al-qaida. We go after there head leaders so they are picking out leader targets they can get to.

Please. It will not STOP under any president we elect. With this kind of articale the mindless banter of political party is just ignorance.

Good Morning Bill, very well stated.

Kind of the the old saying, "if you aren't going to be a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem".

People need someone to lead, follow or get the f out of the way.

scan

that's what you got out of that? my whole point was to stop blaming W.

That maybe true. Until you said, "what is your president (the one with the functioning brain) doing about this situation?" I don't blame you; I wish I had never heard of bush(jr) too. But what is that saying? "To forget history is to repeat it".

"The attack comes as Yemen's U.S.-backed government is waging an offensive against al-Qaida's branch in the country, taking back territory and cities in the south that the terror group seized last year."

New "mission accomplished" to the past on the lines of Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and so on!

HOTTICKET: Don't you see oil prices are going down from $40 in 2009 to $110 by sanctions on Iranian oil!

With Iraqi wars, you have to understand that Bushes contolled oil prices from $30s to $145.00!!!!

Saddam, the killer, transferred all the dangerous chemical weapons and WMDs to Syria and Iran before he lost the Iraqi wars.

So don't you think to save human beings we have to support al-Qaida, MB and other "love and peace" Salaffi and Wahhabi groups in Syria and Iran?

Sunni Saudis and co are preparing the draft on a solid plan to help intervention in Syria and Iran. They are fine tuning them now right now. Later UN security council and rest will put their signatures and start their seventh century Saudi dances!!!!!!!!

Master Joseph

Actually GW did a great job. If you were not so ignorant you would know our problems did not start till the democrats took control of congress. Look at the spending year to year. GW was a lame duck President for the last two years. Keep looking at the spending, it didn't slow down till the Republicans took over the House. The only thing this administration has ever done is blame someone else for it's failure. We are in worst shape now then 4 years ago and Obama using the Cloven - Piven Strategy now has America only one year from bankruptcy.

You should either stop posting Obamas misinformation or spend more time educating yourself on the truth so you don't look so foolish.

Is that bullet still enlarged in your head where your brain use to be? Read the article. He wasn't at the embassy. What did obama have to do with this? Hell, the yemen embassy was attacked three times in 2008. The last time, 16 people killed. I guess that was obama fault too?

flnobody

1) Who do you think you are talking to a another human being like that? Is it hard to breathe up there on that pedistal?

2) Obama is the President of the United States, all embassies and everyone woking for them are his responsibility, this man was killed for one reason, he worked for the United States on United States soil. If there were security issues raised and not dealt with as in several other recent incidents, the buck stops on the presidents desk because he is in charge, and everyone in the state department follows his direction.

3) If you don't understand the chain of command and the fact that the person at the top is responsible for the actions of his subordinates, you really have no business commenting on an executive branch issue much less a military one.

Hey Joe Biden, is that the kind of experience in foreign relation you bring to the ticket Obama/Biden. It is a disgrace , we are losing allies and gaining more enemies.

Hey Joe Biden, Osama is dead and AlQaeda is alive and strong killing Americans and also people that provide security to our embassies.

Are you going to blame the mohamad movie for this attack too?

Are we better off in the Muslim world with Obama?

No more 4 years of the same. Obama=Carter one term presidents.

We have a Christian Coptic in jail by the Obama regime , because he exercise the kind of freedom of speech, Muslims denied to the people of his own faith in his own country, his Church is burned, his fellowship attack by Mohamad followers and we can' t express his outrage in a free country.This is USA for God sake.

Master Joseph

"If little George were president....probably.

But, unlike little George, the current president has a functioning brain."

Too bad you missed out on your chance to get one...Maybe Obama will let you use his.

Send Bengahzi Barry back to Chicago- he thrives in the corruption there!

flnobody

I hope he does nothing. "was shot dead while on his way to work early Thursday." Not in the embassy. What, we are going to start investigating all the murders in the Middle East now? If so, the republicans better put back that $50 billion they cut from the embassy budget last year. Plus a whole lot more

I'm just stunned. This Yemeni national has worked for the embassy for 20 years. Chances are he was shot because he did his job, because Al Queda could not turn his loyalties and with him out of the way they can place one of their sympathizers in his place to kill Americans working there.

I get that you have no qualms about Americans or even those who work for Americans dying. I also get that you Will looks all around for some scape goat even though this death and the deaths in Libya and the attacks at our other embassy lay squarely at the feet of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The shame of it is that I doubt either care about Embassy workers dying if they can turn the discussion to the Republicans. It is absolutely sickening that the President will use these deaths to promote his re-election. Seriously, he believes the "American People" are so stupid that he still claims that a short film is what incited people to riot and murder. Oh yes it just was a coincidence that all this took place on 9/11. How many homeland attacks is Obama going to allow before he either grows a backbone or allows al queda free range to kill in the heartland of America.

If there is ever a "World War III" started in the Middle East, it won't be the fault of the United States of America. Individuals blaming US for the constant turmoil in the Middle East have a very narrow minded anti-US bias that ignores the root cause of this unending conflict.

People have to stop blaming this one or that one for every attack that happens in some other country. The world is a dangerous place and always will be. As long as we have people in other countries they will be at risk because we can't station an army at every embassy. This Al Qaida off-shoot will be wishing that the Americans had them once the Yemeni Security gets a hold of them. In my opinion I don't think we need Embassy's in most of these countries it's too expensive and modern communication's have made them obsolete. The only reason we still have most of them is Ambassador jobs are political patronage jobs. They are used as a reward. A fat Check and Pension for friends of those in power. The CIA also uses the Embassy's but I see no advantage in that. Putting a spy agency right where other countries expect it to be makes little sense. Besides half of our Enemies are caused by the CIA doing all kinds of Dirt that we never hear about and probably never will. And the worse thing about the CIA is half the things they do are not done under the direction of our government as a whole. But under the direction of different factions of our government on the right or left that remain in power no matter which party is POTUS. Or who has control of the House or Senate.

Master Joseph:

If little George were president....probably.

But, unlike little George, the current president has a functioning brain.

Yep and Obama's been to all 57 states....They're both idiots, it just that the media beat anything Dubya said wrong into the ground. The media is not going to do the same thing to a Democrat.

Well, now that we're illegally, immorally and anti-Constitutionally involved in Syria's civil war

We are not yet involved in the Syrian Civil War, but will be if Mitt is elected. It's Mitt that wants to take us to war - one we have business being in.

Barry may as well start packing now! His foreign policy is blowing up in his face. He is not the messiah that he thinks he is. Our Embassies are NOT safe.

His foreign policy is not blowing up in his face. His policy has nothing to do with this incident. The victim is a Yemen and he was killed by his fellow citizens. It is Mitts foreign policy that should scare you.

Obama and Hillary are directly responsible for the policy and support of Americans working at our embassies and directly responsible for those foreign nationals that risk everything to support America. So apparently you have no apathy for this Embassy worker, you know that al Queda philosophy that people are expendable depraved indifference. Do you harbor the same indifference over the Dr. that is in prison because he supported America to locate Bin Laden? Is he really expendable too? H. Clinton and Obama, have done nothing even though this Dr. risked everything for our country and now sits in a Pakistani prison. Obama keeps reinforcing the premise that he just can't be trusted.

Yes, we should most definately adopt an isolationist view again and stay out of all others countries busness.

After all, the last time we did that, it brought us two really cool World Wars.

Saying it is Obama & Clinton's fault is like it is saying it is the House's fault as well for passing Embassy funding cuts. Honestly, it is no one individuals fault. There a many on both sides (D & R) to "blame" for Embassy attacks that are successful. Embassy raids happen all the time, under almost every presidents watch. And people are killed. Attacks of this sort will never go away unless we just shut them all down, in every country -- It is not American to do that sort of thing though.

txmom I also think we gave the doc a raw deal and can not believe we would not assist a man that helped to get bl. we have destroyed his life for helping maybe thats what our potus wanted to show the rest of our allies that they should not trust us no wonder some don't like the U.S.A.

scomata

1) Who do you think you are talking to a another human being like that? Is it hard to breathe up there on that pedistal?

I'm someone who will comment on a post. When I see people who didn't even read the article and make stupid comments about something they have no idea what they are talking about. Like you did.

2) Obama is the President of the United States, all embassies and everyone woking for them are his responsibility, this man was killed for one reason, he worked for the United States on United States soil. If there were security issues raised and not dealt with as in several other recent incidents, the buck stops on the presidents desk because he is in charge, and everyone in the state department follows his direction.

You are somewhat right there. But you didn't mention. That congress (GOP run congress) controls the funding for those embassies. To include the cost of security. That same GOP run congress just cut $20 billion from their 2012 budget last year. You can't do much without the proper funding.

3) If you don't understand the chain of command and the fact that the person at the top is responsible for the actions of his subordinates, you really have no business commenting on an executive branch issue much less a military one.

I served over 20 years in the military. I'm betting I know a lot more about chain of command then you do. The president is not responsible for the actions of congress. When congress doesn't fund the security of our embassies. Then congress must also accept the responsibility for what happens.

FLNOBODY you are somebody that is absolutely correct!

txmom

I'm just stunned. This Yemeni national has worked for the embassy for 20 years. Chances are he was shot because he did his job, because Al Queda could not turn his loyalties and with him out of the way they can place one of their sympathizers in his place to kill Americans working there.

I will ask you a question. Should when send in thousands of solders to avenge his death? Should we spend billions or trillions of dollars to avenge a man who was killed in the street of a foreign country? What should be done? I say let the local police or what ever deal with it. It is their job. Not ours.

I get that you have no qualms about Americans or even those who work for Americans dying.

From your comments, you get nothing.

So you want to have another Iraq? Where over 4,000 American solders died? Is that ok with you? It sounds like that is what you think we should do. In 2008, when the embassy in Yemen was attacked for the third time and 16 died. What did we do then? We can't invade every country that someone gets killed in that has ties to the US.

The "U-TUBE VIDEO" was responsible for this violent act.

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Voted for Mr. Obama in 2008 ? Embarrassed yet ?

txmom

P.S.

It is absolutely sickening that the President will use these deaths to promote his re-election.

Your right. It is absolutely sickening to use the attack for political gain.

Who was the 1st one to jump on the bandwagon?

Your Mitt! He didn't even wait until the bodies were cold.

http://nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/romney-blasts-obama-on-cairo-embassy-statement-of-sympathy--20120911

Ido

Voted for Mr. Obama in 2008 ? Embarrassed yet ?

NO! I've seen what the other side has to offer. You embarrassed yet?

flnobody...epic fail for suggesting that the only remedy is to commit troops and wage war. I would suggest that our Secretary of State actually do her job in Yemen as she should have done her job for the Dr in Pakistan and as she should have done her job in Libya and most certainly other areas of risk from where they receive daily briefings.

Dealing with Yemen..we helped oust their government by eliminating military aid and Selesh stepped down. Now we are sending them $337,000,000 and all that seems to be buying us is a dead Ebassy worker? You would think that with 337 Million dollars those who worked for America would have some perception of secuity. Could it be that some of those funds that are supposed to go to Yemen police forces are actually winding up in the hands of Al Queda? Swift response, pull $50 million of those dollars back for Yemen not supporting their citizens. Everytime that Al Queda gets a kill another $50 million off the table. As for a military response...Obama has been taking care of the whole military support since we help oust their President to place a leader of our choosing, you might like CNN's take

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/07/feds-more-than-double-aid-to-yemen/

I think you have that wrong...Obama is fair game when it is his policy and his responsibility that these people have died...It is a part of his Presidential record...much like Bush had to own up to the failings of his political record.

flnobody - I served over 20 years in the military. I'm betting I know a lot more about chain of command then you do.

Uh, huh. Sure, who's "military". I asked you BASIC things about the US Military and all you did was post BALONEY, that even a US Military Basic Trainee would know.

Then I goaded you into disclosing your Birthdate, so I copied and saved your post. Sure you served over 20 years. LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSkv_29Rncg

dlove2012 - FLNOBODY you are somebody that is absolutely correct!

Get a room.

zuksam - And the worse thing about the CIA is half the things they do are not done under the direction of our government as a whole.

The CIA is the President's Own Executive Intelligence Agency, with additional oversight by the US Congressional Intelligence Committee(s).

huskergal - We are not yet involved in the Syrian Civil War

Do keep up with the actual news.

huskergal - His foreign policy is not blowing up in his face. His policy has nothing to do with this incident.

Learn to do a Causative Timeline to determine the Causes.

The RESULTS of President Obama's Policies:

US and US Allies Loss of the Iraqis Oil to the Chinese and Russian Federation, that could have paid for the US And US Allies Liberation of Iraq with Decades to Centuries of Iraqis Oil. No more negotiations with President Obama and SOS Clinton, US Kicked out of Iraq. Strategic Location Loss of Iraq the decreased pressure on the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, so then they could concentrate on Afghanistan. The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran starts increasing their training, funding, arming of (hundreds of thousands) Islamic Jihadists at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, Syria, and Northwestern Iran as funded by the Trillions USDs per year of the Mandatory Islamic Tithes.

Loss of the High Tech Mineral Wealth of Afghanistan to the Chinese, China Metallurgical Group. These High Tech Minerals are necessary for the current US High Tech Standard of Living and Future US Alternative Energy. China places Restrictions on the Export of these High Tech Minerals to the US And US Allies, so most US High Tech must be Made In China.

Loss of the Strategic Location of Egypt, including the Suez Canal. Egypt was absolutely necessary for the Overthrow of former US Ally Libya. Mediterranean Ports. Closer Logistics to support the Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Warlords, Army of Islam Gaza, etc.. Closer Locations to Attack US Ally Israel.

Loss of the Strategic Location of Libya, including the Libyan Oil that was of Strategic Importance to the US European Allies. Mediterranean Ports. Closer locations for the Holy Warriors of Islam to attack the US European Allies aka Crusaders. Libya is the Key Location to the Other Nations of Africa. Those placed into power by President Obama are the Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) the current Government of Libya, etc. (listed as Terrorist Organization by SOS Clinton's US Department of State) These Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists released all of President Obama's Guantanamo Islamic Jihadists Prisoners transferred to President Gaddaffi's Prisons. Obtained 20,000 portable shoulder launched SA-7 anti aircraft missiles to according to Al Quada "shoot down US Civilian Airlines to Cripple the US Economy."

The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, their Allies the Chinese and Russian Federation start increasing their Militarises to protect their Recent Gains from the US and US Allies Losses Worldwide. The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran learned from their mistakes during the Iran Iraq Wars, especially their attempts to close the Strait of Hormuz, and know how to effectively do this now and before the Egyptian Revolution negotiated with the Muslim Brotherhood for Strategic Access to the Suez Canal, believed that the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran will also control the Suez Canal (US and US Allies must go the long way around Africa). So nope they will NOT let the US And US Allies do a "Do Over".

President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered the current Reduction In Forces of 90,000 US Military to be thrown on Unemployment and the Layoffs of the 108,000 US Civilians that supported them. In January 2013, more US Military and US Civilians will be thrown on Unemployment as scheduled by President Obama, plus a US Defense Budget Cut of 11% (over a Million US Civilians thrown on Unemployment*) as stated by President Obama's President's Proposal to US Congress.

*President Obama and Secretary of Defense Leon Penetta 2012, "A 10% Defense Budget Cut will result in a Million (US) Civilians becoming Unemployed".

Want to talk about President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (plural US Laws) that eliminated Constitutional Rights. President Obama shown during a staged news media event January 22, 2009 signing his Patriot Acts into US Laws, 04:38 minutes of 11:55 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE&playnext=1&list=PL6578B007E925F64A&feature=results_video

To eliminate a Loop Hole in his Patriot Acts President Obama signs his 2012 NDAA. The US Military Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens. This is ruled Illegal. President Obama Appeals this Ruling, pending his Appeal, President Obama uses "Executive Privilage" to deny this is being done while the Appeal is Pending:

Obama Signs NDAA, ACLU Disgusted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY

LAME EXCUSE OF "OBSTRUCTIONIST CONGRESS", President Obama's Previous Actions to Circumvent US Congress "The Will of the People"; IF he wanted to take 100% Responsibility and be held 100% Accountable, keep clicking "Next", see anything Unconstitutional, TOUGH LUCK, that is what YOU Voted For:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions

Most of you are worse than Islamic Jihadists you will defend President Obama Wrong or Right To Your Deaths.

ALL OF YOU NEED TO LEARN TO LIVE LIKE A FOURTH WORLD SOMALIS, NO RESOURCES (we can discuss actual US and US Allies Resources also).

add to post#1.42.

2012 SOS Clinton pertaining to the cuts of US Department of State Appropriations and Libya, "Funding was not an issue".

flnobody So you want to have another Iraq?

How about asking Blabber Mouth Senator Lieberman about President Obama's Secret Wars paid for with President Obama's Not Budgeted For Discretionary Spending (why Senator Lieberman was so pissed).

And no we do not want another President Clinton US Law, H.R.4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Justification Section 2 Weapons of Mass Destruction (NOT BUSH), Section 3 US Policy Overthrow of President Hussein, as US Military Operation Iraqis Freedom aka Iraq War.

david-liar

Uh, huh. Sure, who's "military". I asked you BASIC things about the US Military and all you did was post BALONEY, that even a US Military Basic Trainee would know.

Then I goaded you into disclosing your Birthdate, so I copied and saved your post. Sure you served over 20 years. LOL.

Where/when did you ask? I just scrolled up and didn't see your name at all. Seems that you are the liar! By the way liar. You know if you click on someone's name. You can see what post they have made today. Well guess what. You are a liar. You hadn't asked me sh@t. Besides, what would you know about the military? Just what people post here?

david-liar

H.R.4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Justification Section 2 Weapons of Mass Destruction (NOT BUSH), Section 3 US Policy Overthrow of President Hussein, as US Military Operation Iraqis Freedom aka Iraq War.

"Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 - Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.

Authorizes the President, after notifying specified congressional committees, to provide to the Iraqi democratic opposition organizations: (1) grant assistance for radio and television broadcasting to Iraq; (2) Department of Defense (DOD) defense articles and services and military education and training (IMET); and (3) humanitarian assistance, with emphasis on addressing the needs of individuals who have fled from areas under the control of the Hussein regime. Prohibits assistance to any group or organization that is engaged in military cooperation with the Hussein regime. Authorizes appropriations."

Please point out the invasion strategy. It's talking about providing equipment and supplies for propaganda use. You have tried this same bullsh@t over and over. Which had nothing to do with operation Iraqi freedom or the Iraq war.

As for WMD's. They had been either removed or distored during Bush 41 or Clinton's time in office. Everyone, except you, now admits that there was no WMD's when the Bush 43 administration said it was. But of course you are just doing what you do best. That is to LIE and keeping lying until you can get someone to believe you.

about President Obama's Secret Wars

What secret wars? Is your aluminum hat to tight?

txmom

flnobody...epic fail for suggesting that the only remedy is to commit troops and wage war.

I didn't suggest anything. I asked you, what should we do. I'm still waiting on your answer.

flnobody...seems illiteracy is also a problem in Yemen.

from1.41

I would suggest that our Secretary of State actually do her job in Yemen as she should have done her job for the Dr in Pakistan and as she should have done her job in Libya and most certainly other areas of risk from where they receive daily briefings

And further in regard to the $337,000,000

Could it be that some of those funds that are supposed to go to Yemen police forces are actually winding up in the hands of Al Queda? Swift response, pull $50 million of those dollars back for Yemen not supporting their citizens. Everytime that Al Queda gets a kill another $50 million off the table.

So here is a question or two for you...Why was it necessary for Obama to help oust Saleh and destabalize Yemen? Are you upset that Obama already has troops in Yemen? Are you concerned that of the 2012 aid package to yemen well over 100 million is to train and arm Yemen security forces?

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-troops-officially-in-yemen-2012-5

Oh Debbie, Debbie....

http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/11/debbie-wasserman-schultz-on-the-initial-intell-on-the-u-s-embassy-attack-in-libya/?hpt=pm_mid

txmom

Are you upset that Obama already has troops in Yemen? Are you concerned that of the 2012 aid package to yemen well over 100 million is to train and arm Yemen security forces?

Don't you mean, am I upset that obama didn't pull out troops that bush sent into Yemem?

"President Bush has approved a plan to send U.S. troops to Yemen, where they will help train that country's military to fight terrorism."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,46904,00.html#ixzz295KauUTC

Don't you mean, am I upset that obama didn't stop the aid money going to Yemem?

Bush Proposes Doubling US Aid to Yemen

http://armiesofliberation.com/archives/2008/06/25/bush-proposes-doubling-us-aid-to-yemen/

Just to inform you. The aid is so we can have our intel people in Yemen; use their naval ports and a place for drone strikes (read below).

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=drone+strikes+in+yemen&qpvt=drone+strikes+in+yemen&FORM=VDRE

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/yemeni-president-acknowledges-approving-us-drone-strikes/2012/09/29/09bec2ae-0a56-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_story.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/07/world/middleeast/07yemen.html?_r=0

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/13125-drone-strike-in-yemen-kills-five

flnobody...you are seriously going with "It's Bushes Fault". So why would anyone vote for Obama if he is still allowing Bush to lead?

txmom

you are seriously going with "It's Bushes Fault"

Ah, the I don't have an answer. For why I say it's obama's fault when it wasn't. Please point out where I said it's bush's fault. All I did was to correct the way you should have made you comment.

Example:

"Don't you mean, am I upset that obama didn't stop the aid money going to Yemen?"

Again, please show me where I said it was bush's fault. Just because you have no idea what you are talking about. Doesn't mean that I am blaming bush. I understand that people like you don't like to hear facts.

It is Israelis fault, it is mohamad movie fault.

Are we better off in the Muslim World, throwing under the bus to our allies and giving olive branch to our enemies?

Rightly said.

Followers of Islamic cult, especially Sunni Saudi inspired Islamic radicals and militants (al-Qaida, Salaffi, Wahhabi, MB, Taliban and other label ones), are fast marching backwards to their seventh century desert tribal days.

They are indulging in rapings, lootings, killings and genocides of non-Muslims (Darfur, S. Sudan, Nigeria and spreading like wild fire in many regions and Muslims (Libya, Mali, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan and other places).

Sunni Saudi backed Salaffi and MB new chapters are opening up in Egypt. Just watch the fate of Christians, women and Israel as the time goes by.

Even in Syria, if Assad is overthrown by Sunni Islamic religious Nazis like al-Qaida, MB, the conditions of Christians will be unbearable just like Iraq.

Pakis and Sunni Saudis and co are responsible for 80 percent of world problems including economic ones. Examine the devastations with Iraqi wars and now sanctions on Iranian oil and the resultant oil price manipulations.

They are making the lives of their own people also miserable by their Islamic religious madness to the intolerable levels.

Are we not committing hara-kiri by supporting our enemies and killers?

Well stated! One problem I'd like to point out is, we, the American people are getting our news with a "spin" and seldom really know the truth, or the entire truth re: any world incident. It's all political. The attacks on embassies are constantly manipulated and given the most useful spin, for example": The embassy in Libyia was attacked because of the anti-Muslim film..There was supposedly a street full of protesters, and it mushroomed out of control, blah, blah. As soon as the truth emerged (no protesters, etc), the spin doctors went to work to present the situation in the best light for the President, who is ultimately responsible for the security draw down there and elsewhere. Olive branch to the enemy seems to be his most innovative foreign policy. I am so sick of it.

lelia,

Speaking of "spin" and the Uneducated believing the "spin":

Jonathan-1982062,

I TOLD YOU BEFORE STOP SPAMING BALONEY.

FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMIC (almost Shia) Al Quada International Franchise was created as Anti Sunnis (Moderate Liberal, as allowed by Islam) Saudi Arabian Government.

Just because they originated in Moderate Liberal Sunni Nations does NOT mean that they are Sunni. Their ACTIONS determine if they are Sunnis or Shia (Fundamentalist Islam).

Sunnis: Liberal Moderate Interpretation of the Holy Koran (Quran). Belief in Fiqh (Logic) as Law.

Shia (plural Shiites): Fundamentalist Islamic Interpretation of the Holy Koran (Quran) Only all other Interpretations are Heresy, as to why they kill the Sunnis. Belief in the Shia (Sharia) Laws and the Hadith (Ancient Islamic Customs) Laws.

The Fundamentalist Islamic Believers (Shia, Shiites) Believe in the Holy Koran's (Quran) 109 Suras of the 114 Suras (majority) Calls to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers. Those Islamic Believers that do not participate are subject to the Death Penalty. Collaborators to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers are subject to the Death Penalty "To Dwell in that Firey Place".

This is where the Western World especially the News Media f**ks up at, by not listing who is Fundamentalist Islam and instead uses misnomers like "conservative" Islam. As well as the Western Limiting Term of "Religion" regarding the Islamic Belief, as for Fundamentalist Islam, Islam is ALL, All Politics, All Religion, All Culture, All Ways of Life, All History, All Customs, etc..

It is also a BIG mistake for the Western World to marginalize the numbers of Holy Warriors of Islam as funded by the Trillions USDs per year of Mandatory Islamic Tithes by saying "Radicalized", "Extremist" as if their are only a few hundred and not the almost Millions. As these Mandatory Islamic Tithes of Trillions USDs per year allow the Holy Warriors of Islam to live a better life than scratching a stick in the ground to barely survive, and they also are praised by the Imams at the Mosques Worldwide as Islamic Superstars doing Allah's Work as the Hand(s) of Allah.

The use of the minority of 1.8 million Islamic Believers living at the US is also a mistake, as they do NOT determine what Islam is or is not for the Majority of over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide.

A common trait of Fundamentalist Islamic Believers (Shia, Shiites) is to shoot the Sunni in the face while the Sunni is attempting to Negotiate ("Empty Words"), as the Fundamentalist Islamic Believers (Shia, Shiites) believe in what works, "The Dead Do NOT Complain". This is why there are less and less Sunnis and more Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (Shiites).

Jonathan-1982062,

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There are not much differences between Sunni Saudi Islamic religous Nazis imagining from their seventh caves and davids, a bunch of big losers, making big claims and spreading lies all over.

Likes of him and other extremist Jews need psychiatric help.

Perhaps a better question is when will we silly Americans stop pandering to people who are incited to murderous violence by a video? (Before you answer, note that I recognize the sarcasm.)

But it was not a video that caused our ambassador to Libya to be killed. It was a planned terrorist attack although between the WH and the State Department, the "story" of what "REALLY" happened has not been vetted with each side.

nc

its called sarcasm

Scooter,

Hard to hear sarcasm on a bulletin board. Who knows what nonsense these lefties will spew? I try to use quote marks to indicate sarcasm or other silliness.

denver bill 2

Perhaps a better question is when will we silly Americans stop pandering to people who are incited to murderous violence by a video? (Before you answer, note that I recognize the sarcasm.)

What else can be.

Seems that the only two countries that haven't gotten into this fracas's is India and Pakistan. but it will soon happen.

goofy foot: It was not an American who created that film. The man was actually Egyptian! and just in this country. And this unseen "video" had nothing to do with the eruptions in the middle east. Those people don't need anything to go "off" on anyone they choose. The video apparently was brought up by US Administration....and used as a scapegoat for their ineptitude over the situations going on over there.

You are "wrong" Patricia -- Much of the unrest "was" directly due to the video, even the mere mention of it. "Those people" (extremists) need every reason to "go off" -- They use every "thing" we do as a reason to go off -- Our beliefs, ideals and everything it means to be "American". The killing of our Ambassador was planned, but the video DID excite riots in the Middle East.

Seriously, all this pointless insulting drivel is getting really, really tired, from BOTH ends. If you can't contribute something substantial to the discussion... and by substantial, I mean the opposite of "Obama is a muslim socialist terrorist" or "Romney is a (whatever extreme liberals are calling him)", then please stop wasting screen space.

mattt,

When you know everything , before you learn anything, this sort of diatribe takes the place of any serious discourse. Innuendo and opinion replaces common sense and facts. Sad but so true.

Doubtless someone will try to extinguish your beacon of light.

And Liberals will blame it on Bush.

Who is the commander in chief? Who is top dog? Obama needs to get some thicker skin or get out. Or just blame it on Bush and fly out to Vegas again. Why is the current holder of the highest office in the world held to such low standards? Wake up

crazyvet68

of course mitt will blame it on OBAMA

And everyone knows that is ridiculous and unwarranted, because no politician is responsible for what happens while they are in power.

your right bill, only AFTER they are in office.......well with this administration anyway.

jboy03

Excuse me? I don't believe he can even reach the level of standards that have been set. However, how can you get the bar any lower when it already sits on the ground?

Blame on Obama only because it is his fault.

We have no roles in century old Shiites vs Sunni battles. We are crippled from all sides.

Just enjoy the battles between them. Even Jews should show some patience.

Shiites should start their own battles for Shiastan in Yemen.

See the jokes going in Syria with Sunni Saudi rebels, al-Qaida, MB on one side and the Assad’s forces on the other sides!

Just check all languages of the media, UN Security council, human rights groups, Erdogan’s, and others! These are paid pipers of Sunni Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists.

Shiites and Sunnis are busy battling whose Allah is greater.

What roles Hillarys, McCains, Netanyahos, Libernanns, Romneys have in Syria and Iran?

If atrocities and barbarism on girls, children and women are the criteria, then the most despotic, autocratic and bigoted Sunni Saudi ruler with his 5000 princes and princesses, Kuwaiti, UAE and other Arab League Sunni rulers and their rich sheiks are the biggest culprits in the history.

In killing of opponents again, these people have established world records in religious battles.

If the US, Britain and others support such Sunni barbarians and beasts who treat girls and women as cheap sex slaves, then one can only conclude that Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists determine what to see, how to lecture and where and when to act.

Rest like “human rights”, “killing of children and women”, “militants”, “terrorists”, “WMDs”, “chemical weapons” and so on are a pure hoax.

Similar hoaxes were played each time before Iraqi wars on directions of Saudi, oil companies and their lobbyists.

Now none of them are looking into Iraq, where at least a million have been killed and devastated.

Twice are too much to tolerate.

Oh yes. Comedians from all over are using Obama's material.

hey...if it shows. flaunt it. Obama has shown his ability for foreign affairs. he doesn't know anything about. even when he was chairman of the committee of european affairs. he didn't have any meeting of this committee. he was -guess what. thinking of running for president. that was more important than to do the job he was assigned to do. he still is campaigning. no wonder wee are in such trouble. and he knows it. can't spin only lie and this is what is caused by lies. bye-bye obama.

So you're all advocating putting Mitt in and getting us into yet ANOTHER war?

Why?

He's already received the the Nobel Peace prize!, he doesn't need another one for doing nothing! The first was for just being voted into office as the first black president of the USA.

@Maxwell's Silver Hammer,

Yes because it will probably avoid the pending civil war here if Obama gets elected to a second term. The so called 99%ers against the so called 1%ers. Yes, I don't trust Obama. He promised to cut the debt in half his first term. Instead, he added $6 trillion more to the debt in less than four years. A simple cut to PBS proposed by Romney during the debate has liberals up in arms. It is especially sad that pet projects like that are funded by the government when roughly $.50 of the dollar our government spends is borrowed from China. Liberals don't get that fact. I would rather make smaller sacrifices now than have to face the crisis at later time. Obama's attitude towards the "Big Bird" cuts are outrageous. His opinion on that very subject shows no serious effort to reduce the deficit. Sorry but tough times call for tough measures. All hell is going to break loose if he keeps spending like he has been every year. The deficit will not be a measly $22 trillion but closer to $25 to $26 trillion near the end of his second term because the interest will accrue even faster. Our currency will be devalued at that point. Government employees won't get paid. Just look at Greece to see what our future holds! I am stocking up on guns and ammo now so that I can defend what is mine and be able to live off of the land.

At least, Americans will have crappy national healthcare coverage by that point. LOL

All these "bumps in the road" are turning into a regional sinkhole. Security issues in the middle east are pathetic not because of insufficient funds but rather insufficient leadership.

Sean

Nah - if he was a vet in the first place - Crazy Vet 68 is having a fflashback - Perhaps he is a Vet, as in Veterinarian?

or vegetarian.................:)

Mornin' Scooter

I don't usually "hit" on names, perhaps he is a vegetarian and was born a bit crazy in 1968 ? Oh yeah, for the uninitiated - sarcasm alert!

We get it already MASTER JOSEPH. Everything is GDubs fault. Can you come up with something else? Perhaps an intelligent argument? Al Qaeda was around long before GDub took office. Ask Clinton. In the meantime, quit making excuses for our current POTUS. The media does that enough already!

Obama lies and Romney lies. Just keep voting for the same politician, different party. We're all suckers and no matter which one of these two douches wins, we will all lose.

The 73rd spontaneous demonstration in a month (but no pattern to these of course). Jay Carney will explain tomorrow it took a while for the video to make it to Yemen by camelback.

got to get maries to guard our embassies. if obama says that romney outsources, hope romney comes back and says, obama is insourcing unqualified personal to protect our people.

DocS, You amaze me. Who do you think guards our embassies and consulates?

YES!!! A bunch of Maries guarding our embassies, especially if they are on their monthlies.

put a thousand monkeys in a room full of typewriters.......................

yeah...and in 1000 years, one of them will come up with the "epic novel"

Correct Jack, but each one will tell you that they are serious writers, not journey hacks. They are just paying the bills you know

Or the 1000 monkeys in a 1000 years could come up with a REAL biography of the 0bama !!

The "real" biography of Obama would be filled with MSN's lies and deceptions!

Four more beers!

Four more queers!

Dem's do not know what you are talking about since the leftist media will not cover or lie about anything that will make their President look bad.

he didnt make it to work so clearly a case of raod rage........................

Another attack on an embassy within a month?

nope, didn't happen there he was EMPLOYED there. try reading PAST the headline its not that tough people simply;

1 read article

2 comprehend same

3 think

4. post

Awwwww, that's cute. The mindless Master Joseph is trying to type like people do! Hey moron, the word you're looking for is *EXACERBATED*. Now take the government-funded pacifier out and drink more kool-ade.

P.S. Bush has been gone for four years. You won that election. Your inept fool never lived up to the expectations (unless you set them really, REALLY low...). Time to run him out on a rail.

as Obama knows and understands.

He knows and understands about as much as the brainless drones who worship him.

Hey scooter, right on.

Reading comprehension, yep, schools should be teaching it!

You may be a commonamerican, which is a serious problem since our history is one of using or killing the labor of the red, black and yellow people who were here or were brought to this continent.

It's all about the few making money off labor.

Master Joseph

I get the feeling you are probably one who takes/makes money off OTHER PEOPLE'S LABOR.

Joe, I hear that mantra all the freakin time. Ever bother to go to the union hall and look at how many of them are making money off of labor?

Aggie,

By the sound of his posts, I doubt he's a CEO.

Don't you understand? Video? Terrorist attack?

It's all the same thing. They hate U.S.A. and they'll attack us whenever they please.

The reasons don't really matter, do they? The end game is always the same. Attack the USA.

That's all...

Hold-up now....Master Joseph is citing Al Jezeera in his posts yet stevejc42 is unAmerican? You libs kill me.

widget- so you thinks it's ok for stevieboy to not just call the President of the U.S. derogatory names but to also falsely accuse him of murdering agents and assaniating ambassadors? while i'm not a lib, your comments show how foolish and extreme you people on the far right have come and yet you wonder why the libs fight you- there are people in this country who still believe in demoracy and they seem to be mostly on the left and not in Texas

stevejc: he is an embarrasment at the UN. Wow! this guy will write the no. one best seller. my life as f--c-up as president. can read it now from the NY Times on the best seller list

Very well said and appreciated. On topic to boot, you hit the trifecta today