The enemy of the Taliban are unarmed 14 year old girls trying to get an education.

That sums up the Taliban and their doctrine.

Islam, the religion of peace...

I hope this girl goes on to win a Nobel Peace Prize. And I hope her attackers have their heads lopped off.

I've said this before, but this is sadly something that HAD to happen as a wake-up call to that country, if not that entire region. Until the citizens of countries where women's rights are willing to stand up against adversity, the Taliban will remain in control of that country and do what they wish, when they wish.

Pakistanis are the ones that must recognize what is living among them, and then fight against the evil cowards in their midst; nobody outside of the country can "make them go away."

was a man called Attaullah. Can we say Attaullah the Coward.

Attaullah the Coward.

Attaullah the Coward.

Attaullah the Coward.

Attaullah the Coward is afraid of a 14 year old girl getting educated. This is the great Taliban threat. Where does it say in the great Quaran that it is wrong for 14 year old girls getting educated?

Attaullah the Coward is afraid of a 14 year old girl getting educated. This is the great Taliban threat. Where does it say in the great Quaran that it is wrong for 14 year old girls getting educated?

hank-1773286

Attaullah the Coward

There is nothing wrong with him that stoning wouldn't fix.

I would call anyone of the participants in that Taliban meeting that decided to have her killed cowards. And that goes for anyone who would have someone killed for speaking out, child or not.

SUJO

Pakistanis are the ones that must recognize what is living among them, and then fight against the evil cowards in their midst; nobody outside of the country can "make them go away."

Excellant point...but they need do so without our money as well.

These cowards are terrified by a young girl. They choose to kill her. Why is the world not doing something about this? Every country should stand up and tell Pakistan, either you get her attackers or we will. The world needs to stop the spread of radical Islam. Not true Islam. Not leaving it up to a few brave countries who have the balls enough to try and stop these murderers.

Steve-2570999 - "America" isn't a "religion"

@Kristian113

Not true Islam.

Malala is the example of peaceful Islam and the Taliban is the example of political Islam, contradicting messages from Allah as prescribed by prophet Muhammad.

Steve972 : Old Steve-2570999 is a race baiter & bigot & racist & thinks America is a religion. Is it any wonder, as the President of New Zealand said, the leaders of the industrialized world look at America as a country in decline. If he is correct, then Old Steve-2570999 is an example of why it's in decline.

@Steve...yadayadayada

Here we go again, with the trolls that want to deflect all the world's problems, and all the American opinions, back against the U.S. You can't let people voice their opinion about current world events without trying to make the U.S. appear worse. Then you have to go back 50 years or even centuries to find the examples. Are you really so self-deprecating that you can't see the progress this country has made, and compare it to the LACK of progress the Muslim countries and the Taliban specifically are showing by continuing these types of actions well into the 21st century?

@Steve-2570999 that's why people within the US stood up against those same cowards back then at the risk of their lives and change happened. The US most definitely is not perfect and I don't think anyone here has even alluded to that. They are only saying that whether it was in the 50's or in 2012, the killing of a child or children because of what they believe in - equality, peace, a chance to learn or whatever - is not right and is the action of a coward. It was a cowardly act in the 50's and it is a cowardly act today.

Stand up JokeOff said;

I've said this before, but this is sadly something that HAD to happen as a wake-up call to that country, if not that entire region. Until the citizens of countries where women's rights are willing to stand up against adversity, the Taliban will remain in control of that country and do what they wish, when they wish.

The Taliban rose to power in Pakistan right about the time that Malala started writing her blog at age 11. She told of schools for girls being closed, of hiding her books and her book bag at home so the Taliban wouldn't see girls studying. Her brother was terrified and prayed to Allah for a world superpower (US or China specifically) to intervene. What eventually happened was that the Pakistani military raided the Swat Valley and drove them out (and presumably some went into hiding as they still have enough presence to try assassinating children, cowards.) But after their presence was no longer a majority force, schools reopened and children like Malala were able to return, she kept up her blog, but now instead of focusing locally, she started thinking regionally and started advocating education for all Muslim girls.

I think up till now the Pakistani government has been looking at the Taliban as a local force in the region; maybe not one that they were totally in line with, but they were seen as resistance against the 'Western invasion'--when we sent troops into Iraq and Afghanistan. But now, with bin Laden gone, and the Taliban routed, and more importantly our troops are leaving--they are starting to see the return of free speech and they are also seeing what the young generation of their people want--freedom, equality, a chance to be as prosperous as the west and for many of this younger generation, they have a lot of good ideas about how to achieve a balance between traditional Muslim values and westernized prosperity.

I believe the rulers are looking that their children and seeing what is possible. It is possible for a girl to get an education without violating the religious teachings your government is founded on. It is possible to live and learn (from and with) the Westerners without feeling like you have to subsume yourself to them. They had to do that with the Taliban, they never once imagined it could be any other way until we went in and attacked the Taliban but didn't try to take over their governments, didn't try to 'colonialize' them the way the western powers did back when West and Middle East first collided (back in the Lawrence of Arabia days).

A lot of these middle eastern people remember the lesson of colonialization and are determined to resist it--and seeing our troops leaving now is bringing home that fact that we, too learned lessons from colonialization that we are determined not to repeat; that we are not going to turn them into a 'vassal state'. And the continued militancy of the Taliban and al-Quaeda is helping that impression along--the governments of these countries are waking to the realization that we are withdrawing, we are not the enemy, and we will not interfere with their countries'sovereign rights over their citizens. our hands-off approach to Pakistan's handing of the guy who helped us get Bin Laden may have helped along their impression of us, and I firmly believe he'll be released from prison within the next decade.

We'll have to wait and see.

Pakistanis are the ones that must recognize what is living among them, and then fight against the evil cowards in their midst; nobody outside of the country can "make them go away."

And it is already happening, in the Middle East and Africa. In Benghazi, the citizens rose up, stormed the compound in which the militants responsible for the death of Ambassador Stevens were hiding, killed a few and drove the rest out. In Somalia a combined coalition of African military forces stormed a beach near a fort where Al-Quaeda was hiding and, in what is now being called 'Al-Quaeda's D-Day', they were driven out of Somalia. Afghanistan, with our help, has reduced the influence of Al-Quaeda in their region and as a result, this summer's Olympics was the first time in which an Afghani woman marched with her country and competed for her country and countrywomen--and she was not required to wear a burka while doing it, she wore a headscarf out of personal choice.

They are small steps, baby steps, on the backdrop of the world's stage but they are steps in the right direction. Within the next twenty years conflicts in the middle east are going to end.

Yes, America is a country in decline.

Why? Because we have lost the ability to work together and compromise for the greater good. We still have those in our country who would persecute a man, even the POTUS, due to his political party, and his race. 14 years ago the GOP and the Democrats worked together under a POTUS neither side were too proud of, and came to agreements that allowed us to start making headway into the national deficit. It's not just ignoramouses like Steve, but a whole political process that has been hijacked by the wealthy and contolled by corporations, who no longer operate in the country they have nearly destroyed.

If we can seriously criticize the Taliban, we need to step up our game and stop acting in much the same manner. No, our leaders aren't advocating the killing of a 14 year-old girl, but they have NO compassion for those in this country struggling to make an honest living, which they, as leaders, forsook when they started cowtowing to corporate America (China).

If America fails, it will be the fault of those who think the wealthy and the politically connected are better than the rest of us.

Steve972

Steve-2570999 - "America" isn't a "religion"

In think he was referring to KKK. Everything the KKK did was in the name of religion. Now they have shed the sheets and simply call themselves the Tea Party.

Of course some numbskull will say those people were Democrats, completely ignoring the fact that they nearly all became Republicans during the Civil Rights struggles of the 60's. Modern Democrats have nothing to do with these people. Modern Republicans have everything to do with them.

The religious fundamentalism we see pushed by the Right in America today is no different than the Taliban excepting the level of violence and the dogma used. But Christians here have also murdered people in cold blood who didn't listen to their threats (see Paul Hill, Eric Rudolph, Scott Roeder, and Michael Griffin). Their acts were also committed in the name of depriving women of free choice.

There were three atackers for shooting a 14 year old Malala.

Taliban planned the attacked and then gave the job to lower level commanders!

What a brave bunch of brave Islamic religious Nazis (claiming to be purifiers of Islamic religion) Taliban must have!

Lets all hope these cowards and religious fools all attack on enough fronts that the WHOLE WORLD will unite to rid ourselves of these pests. It happened to Hitler...now lets make it happen to these scum!!

Was very brave of fazlulah and altulah trying to kill little girls. That tells everyone that taliban does not like freedom of speech, they don't want opposition in any form, just like their clerics wants it. All the taliban pigs want is going back to the 7th centure stobe age where every one have to listen to the satanic uneducated illiterate cleric pig that quoted their satanic allah spoke to him ( directly??) Wow certanly its cowardice trying to silence a critic to their satanic believing cult and wants everyone to follow their primitive savagery barbaric way of life

The Taliban's greatest enemy is themselves. If they want to remain a force in the Middle East you don't make the rulers of the countries in which you're trying to blend in hate you. That doesn't get them to like you and listen to you it makes then think you are their enemy and they will drive you out, as is happening all over the Middle East and Africa. You have lost your relevancy in your inaility to evolve along with the people around you, and in doing so you sound the death bell of your own doom. You will become nothing more than a note in history, an example to all of what not to do,even as Hitler is now an example to all of what not to do.

Can the people railing against Islam stop for a moment and realize that this little girl, her family, the doctors, soldiers, and supporters trying to save her are all Muslim, as well.

Hopefully you can use this as a distinction. There are good people who are Muslims and want peace. She was attacked by bad people who are Muslims and want war. There is a big difference. To all the "kill all the muslims" crowd we have on these boards... one of your repeated lines is that Muslims don't stand up against the violent Muslims... maybe you can put that line to rest now.

I can see that Taliban meeting.

"First off we need a volunteer for a suicide mission as we got another vest................anyone..............come on guys we need a volunteer..........ok we will postpone this until someone decides they will do it"

"Second order of business we need a volunteer to shoot an unarmed 14 year old girl............whoa...........not all at once wow everyone is wanting to volunteer for this one..........makes me proud to see so many brave Taliban willing to serve Allah against the threat of this girl............we will just have to draw straws"

rick-1123442

Soldiers of allah- Such brave men!!!Hopefully, there is a drone visit in their future.

These men are lying if they say they are muslims.

Drones kill children too. Last I checked 176 children killed reported by our government, experts estimate the number is much higher.

Give it a rest!

Islam, the religion of peace...

It obviously is based on this story. The only true, observant muslim in this story is Malala, and she is an angel of peace.

Travis-1944

Can the people railing against Islam stop for a moment and realize that this little girl, her family, the doctors, soldiers, and supporters trying to save her are all Muslim, as well.

Hopefully you can use this as a distinction. There are good people who are Muslims and want peace. She was attacked by bad people who are Muslims and want war. There is a big difference. To all the "kill all the muslims" crowd we have on these boards... one of your repeated lines is that Muslims don't stand up against the violent Muslims... maybe you can put that line to rest now.

GREAT POST that deserves a re-post.

"Her blood pressure is normal. Heartbeat is normal, and thanks to God, her condition is satisfactory," Bajwa said.

God is also the reason she is in the hospital in the first place - because of some group's whacked interpretation of what God demands. Education, the bane of ignorance and the enemy of the Taliban. Uneducated people are much more easy to fool and get to fight, kill innocents or blow themselves up at the orders of their cowardly leaders. Who in their right mind would think any god would reward you with 72 virgins for killing and causing so much pain and grief? The Taliban are a twisted and perverted group of people. The thought that they exist on the same world I do makes me want to puke my guts out. I hope the people of the Middle East realize someday that the Taliban and other groups like them are what keep them in constant war with their hate of everything not like themselves. Look at all that has been lost because of them and people like them, from the Buddha statues in Afghanistan to the temples in Timbuktu and much more - all destroyed and gone. Look at the people killed or who they've injured, people who want peace for everyone like this girl and Benazir Bhutto.

Pakistanis are the ones that must recognize what is living among them, and then fight against the evil cowards in their midst;

While it is true that many of Al Qaida and the Taliban are foreign fighters sadly many many are local home grown "evil cowards". Just like here in America where people talk about "urban thug gangbangers" like they come from Mars or somewhere like it. It will never stop until the people admit that the bad guys are their sons, nephews, cousins, fathers, uncles, etc. Then take action to stop it.

voxrationis

Of course some numbskull will say those people were Democrats, completely ignoring the fact that they nearly all became Republicans during the Civil Rights struggles of the 60's. Modern Democrats have nothing to do with these people. Modern Republicans have everything to do with them.

Modern Democrats like Governor George Wallace who stood before the schools refusing integration?

Travis said;

There are good people who are Muslims and want peace. She was attacked by bad people who are Muslims and want war. There is a big difference.

EXACTLY!!!!

As my belief system says, 'It's what you do that matters, not whose Name you do it in'!

I'm still trying to figure out how people can post here the most horrible things about ALL Muslim people, as though the actions of the few extremists were dictated by the entirety of a nation but, should someone point out America's fallibility (Steve @ #1.4) it seems everyone takes offense. Far from infallible, the United States is just as imperfect as any other nation. The difference between the U.S. and some other countries is that we have, historically always erred on the side of mercy and compassion. Yes, there have been horrendous acts perpetrated in the name of nationalism and patriotism - both in America and around the world. There have been hateful people in the most well-intentioned situations who have committed heinous crimes against people of their own nation. And let us not forget the American Civil War. Personal human insecurities have led us to commit all variety of inhumanities against our fellow man. It should not be only the bombing of one church full of children or an attack on one young girl that people find so offensive. We need to feel that same degree of outrage every day. Instead of turning up your nose at the homeless guy on the street and finding some excuse to explain why you are better because ... we allshould be taking action to try to correct the conditions that created the situation.

Bigotry comes in many packages and many shades and, no matter how you wrap it, it is still ugly, it is still wrong, and we still need to fight against it, not try to ignore it or hide it, wherever it is.

Instead of making this comment area about the politics and other things that I am seeing...Should we not be using it to leave prayers and best wishes for this Beautiful and BRAVE young lady! Prayers that she and the other two girls injured in the shooting heal and feel better quickly,prayers that God guides the doctors and medical staff taking care of them,prayers for protection of her and the other girls along with the girls and women who want to have an education there. Prayers that God will give them and their families the strength they need during the days and weeks to come and comfort them.

"Bajwa said the bullet entered her head and went into her neck toward her spine, but it was too soon to say whether she had any significant head injury." What the???

Could someone please define cowardice?

@Doc - Cowardice is not facing your fears or doing something to try and avoid them. Like a man afraid of swimming avoiding a pool or actually destroying that pool instead of learning how to swim. Killing this girl wasn't the Taliban facing their fears. There fear is educated women who would stand up to them and try and change their primitive ways. They fear the world because it has changed around them so they attempt to force the world around them to obey their idea of a perfect society where they rule and everyone else must abide by their perverted way of life of suffer the consequences. They use fear and terror to force others to do as they say. This girl showed great courage in the face of their cowardice! All she wanted was change for herself and other girls who refuse to grow up as ignorant barbarians. Unfortunately, the beasts are not locked up in cages where they belong and are free to deal out their form of unjust justice.

Cowardace is belonging to a religion that believes if you blow yourself up in a crowded marketplace in the name of Allah you get to bed 72 virgins in the imaginary afterlife. Or shoot a defensless activist not even ateen ager yet. All in the name of God.

Malala is not only a true hero of today, but she will be Pakistan's hero of tomarrow because she has sparked such outrage by the women of Pakistan. Pakistan is truly changing for more modern times and this is what I wanted know, how the Pakistani women are treated today. Their government has proved to us today that they are heading in the right direction and for that should get our full support....

Giantego - I hardly think there are more than a relative few who believe in Islam, also believe that suicide gets you 72 virgins. The "72 virgin" story is used to denigrate Muslims. Zionists believe that if they make their enemies look bad enough, they will look good by comparison. That is why they push the crazed Muslim image in the Zionist dominated media, so it can be digested by fools such as you.

These Muslim extremists are much like the right wing extremists, who sit in front of abortion clinics and then shoot the doctors. There is little difference. I doubt whether they are thinking of whatever god they believe in, when they commit themselves to these acts.

Drones kill children too.

Not as many as full scale invasions.

Amanda stated "...the way the western powers did back when West and Middle East first collided (back in the Lawrence of Arabia days)."

Go back to school (or at least watch the anniversary showing of Lawrence of Arabia). T. E. Lawrence "of Arabia" (1888-1935) was a British officer who aided the "common Muslim" (often getting them to fight by shaming them- their cowardice prevented them from attacking when ordered, so he'd start the battle alone and they were shamed that a westerner had more courage and cared more about their freedom then they did.... sound familiar?) in their fight against the Ottoman Empire in World War I to keep the Ottomans at home instead of aiding German/Austrian/Prussian forces (who took the "Serbia, you killed our Prince, we're going to make you pay" while the Serbs said "Big Brother Russia, protect me!!". The alliances of the Austrians (German & Ottoman neighbors) and the Russians (Cousins with British and French leaders) dragged the rest of the European alliance into the fray, only to have hteir own revolt at home and fall to communism). The "first" conflict between West and Middle East is actually the Catholic Church's doing- the Pope went to the Western powers and suggested that the Holy Lands belong to the Church, not the Muslims, and any who fought to take back those lands in the name of the Church would be granted salvation. We call these campaigns "The Crusades" (which took place in the 11-13th centuries, so about 6-900 years before Lawrence).

The biggest problem is the Muslims (I know, Malala is Muslim, and those who have been helping her are as well), however, their reluctance to counter these folks and their acceptance for how women are treated in their society is appalling- sure they speak out now, but what about for the 17 people stoned for mixed gender dancing? The father who burned his 3 daughters because he thought they had been sleeping around (which medical science refuted post-mortem)? Or the women who is given the choice of sitting in jail for her life or marrying her rapist? Or the 11 year old daughter sent to jail because she killed her father when she caight him in bed with another woman?

The only... ONLY way that the Middle East's problems are going to be fixed are by the WOMEN of that region standing up and saying they've had it and won't take anymore. THEN and ONLY THEN can we start working on the rest of the mental problems the collective people of that region seem to have (because you can't tell me that killing people over a stupid movie that no one heard of until after the mob ruled is normal- even "Jesus freaks" in the US and elsewhere aren't that extreme).

"Pakistan is truly changing for more modern times and this is what I wanted to know, how the Pakistani women are treated today".

Well, Pakistan people (muslims) voted for and had a female Prime Minister (Benazir Bhutto) years ago. I guess it will be years before we can vote for a female president here in the states. Learn a bit about Islam/Pakistan before making ignorant comments. Taliban does not represent islam... killer are what they are (and they killed Benazir as well)!

So the Taliban shot a Saint? instead of erecting a statue in homage to her bravery and intelligence?

I pray the Taliban "wakes up one day" and this little girl recovers completely.

Let's send much healing thoughts to her, friends.

Shooting that little kid is a sin and a shame upon all concerned. I hope and pray she comes back whole to shame the ones who shot her. I thought that this was the subject of this 'forum'. Instead I read 'posts' from the usual sycophants trying to co-opt the forum for their boring repetitious politcal polemics. I wonder why these folks don't yet get that there are places online for them, but this is not one of those places.

voxrationis wrote:

Everything the KKK did was in the name of religion. Now they have shed the sheets and simply call themselves the Tea Party.

Of course some numbskull will say those people were Democrats, completely ignoring the fact that they nearly all became Republicans during the Civil Rights struggles of the 60's. Modern Democrats have nothing to do with these people. Modern Republicans have everything to do with them.

Christians here have also murdered people in cold blood who didn't listen to their threats (see Paul Hill, Eric Rudolph, Scott Roeder, and Michael Griffin). Their acts were also committed in the name of depriving women of free choice.

Tea Party = KKK? You do an injustice to all the victims of the KKK, not only the African-Americans but Jews and Catholics as well (oh yes, the KKK started-off by killing Catholics long before bestowing the same fate on African-Americans). The same injustice, but on a much larger scale, occurs when deluded individuals like you grossly minimize the Holocaust by equating Bush W. to Hitler (and soon, if not already, the same with Mitt Romney). You obviously take in too much MSLSD, er, I mean, MSNBC.

Republicans = KKK? Same injustice. You are correct that the KKK WERE ALL DEMOCRATS! Ever hear of the late Senator Robert Byrd? Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black? President Harry S. Truman? Yes - famous Democrats who were KKK members for some time. While Black and Truman clearly repented, Byrd went on to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Even in 2001, Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops Byrd repeatedly used the phrase "white ni**ers" on a national television broadcast. His soul had the unfettered stench of the KKK to the end no matter how much "cologne" he wore, and for that I am confident that God saved an appropriate place for him for eternity.

See, for example, "Ku Klux Klan members in United States politics" at wikipedia.org

Loony left-wingers like you can be as crazy, narrow-minded, history-changing and hypocritical as those right-wingers (man, I love chomping on hot wingers).

Christians have murdered, Jews have murdered, Muslims have murdered, Mormons have murdered, Buddhists (even mobs of monks recently) have murdered, Hindus have murdered, atheists have murdered ... for millions of reasons and for no reason at all. Jesus was a Jew. Muhammad (Peace and Blessings Be Upon Him) was a Christian. Black is black, white is white, up is up and down is down. So what? But not in your world.

My friends back in Pakistan have always viewed the Taliban as the "true believers of Islam." Created and funded by Pakistan in the 1980's as an experiment next door in Afghanistan - first to help kick-out the Soviets and then to create a "true" Islamist state - the Taliban have been biting the hands that created it since the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, particularly because Pakistan not only did nothing to thwart the American thugs, but helped (and continues to help, albeit with interruptions) those American infidels.

Even with the tragic shooting of Malala, and, far worse, the hundreds of Pakistani Mosque bombings of the last three years (leaving thousands of innocent Pakistanis - including nearby women and children - dead or mutilated), most Pakistanis are still conflicted, not willing to go against their "truer" Islamic brethren since they remain the only ones with the fortitude (mistaken insanity) to still fight the infidels next door.

The Pakistanis' reluctance to do away with the Taliban is as crazily persistent as Obama's boastful avocation of "droning" so-called Taliban since 2009 ("We must not capture them alive for what shall we do with them? Afraid to put them on trial, can't put them at promised-to-close Gitmo, mustn't interrogate, mustn't water-board, mustn't ...", blah, blah, blah. Drones don't blow-up innocent people, especially women and children like Malala, right? No, left, as in left-wing holier-than-thou justice).

Don't pay to much attention to Pakistani sidelights. Keep our eyes on-the-prize: a largely terrorist-free Afghanistan - a goal that, unfortunately will never be met but whose next-best-thing is a lower change of another 9-11 type event. Meanwhile, let Pakistan implode on its own as long as the nukes are kept out of the hands of the militant Islamists (and, for that matter, the other 90% of Pakistanis who remain stubbornly conflicted). Thank God for the U.S.A. - pocked-marked as she may be!

Their reluctance as it was put is more for life, and if you spread out too far then you more open to terrorist attacks. Its not cowardice at all its just being smart....

We should first supply them with schools and supplies for those schools. And if they need man power we should also provide that under full Pakistani control. Pakistan is headed in the right direction, it will take time for more to come and exept the future....

I wonder if we should send guns to all the girls who want an education, so they can try to defend themselves against these evil and cowardly men? These backwards thinking males are afraid if the females become educated they will refuse to marry and live under their grimy thumbs. They fear the girls will want husbands who will treat them as human beings, but these men are barely human themselves.

CKPetee:

Why on God's green earth would you even waste your breath on voxrationis? The best thing about watching a program you can't stand (Jersey Shore) is that you can change the channel. Great post though

Blondeness: it's not a male\female battle. It's an old world\new world battle. The real men in Pakistan fight for the rights of their women. And guns are prevalent in Pakistan

WOW,

Some people have an anger problem here. I agree with the people who indicate its the people in this region who need to rise up against the Devil (Taliban). Denounce these people as the devil and show your support to the real people in this region.

To the moron who blames Liberals, you don't have a clue what a conservative or a liberal is. For that matter, no-one does. I find people that want to help people that are un-employed and struggling to find work,,,,, conservative. I call people who only want to help themselves,,,,, liberal. No what party caters to who? Get a life not a label!

Pakistan is a deep @!$%# hole full of despicable and cowardly men, some for killing and abusing women, others for not standing up to the abusers.

and is a hell of a lot smarter then your average run of the mill Taliban raghead.

As long as a man loves life and respects life around them, I don't care how many rags they wear on their heads or what religion they practice......

British invented Pakistan, a pure Islamic nation, in 47.

Since 47, there have been only rapes, loots, stealings and massive genocides in the name of Islamic religion.

Nothing much happened. Malala case will be no different.

In Pakistan, first it was massive genocides of minorities from 48-50 as soon as Pakistan was formed. Percentages of Hindus and Sikhs were reduced from about 24 percent less than three years by rapings, stealing, lootings, terrorizing and killing on a massive scale.

Now the Paki Islamic religious madness has not ended there.

They are after Ahmedias, Sufis (fake love and dance Islamic soap opera people), Shiites and Baloochs and other minority sects.

Shiites form eighteen percent.

While praying their mosques are blown to pieces on Fridays and even hospitals are bombed to kill those injured.

Just wait for civil wars to break out in Pakistan and nukes falling into some Islamic militant hands!

ya know I'll just leave best wishes for these brave girls and some food for thought for all the posters on here.

We are all human beings, there is good and bad no matter what color,race, religion or location. You people that lump everyone into one category are ignorant, try taking a look in the mirror and judging yourself before just lumping everyone else into one category. It might expand your mind having to actually stop and think before opening your mouth or in this case typing.

So by your logic, we could say the same of Jesus because the KKK consider themselves christians, there was an inquisition approved by the Catholic Church, and Many atrocities have been committed in the name of Jesus. Perhaps you should learn to discern the difference between leadership and misguided, terrorist radicals?

Just a reminder that the girl who was brutally shot was herself a Muslim.

WychDoctorGeorge:

The God of the Holy Bible and the God of the Qu'ran are both the same deity. Adam, Abraham, Joseph, Cain and Abel, Noah, Lot, Moses, Joshua, Jonah, David, Solomon, Job, Aaron, Zachariah, Elisha, Elias, Eleazar, Deborah are all mentioned, the Immaculate Conception involving Mary is described and they do acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah, Son of Mary.

My belief system says, There is no one true way, because my Way may not work for you (and your Way definitely doesn't work for me) because what I perceive as my truth is not the same as what you perceive as yours. It's what you do that matters, not whose Name you do it in. Your talk of a 'false God' and denigration of someone else's belief system doesn't indicate to me that you are any more or less 'good' than the ones you castigate.

The worst form Islam and Allah are in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. They have become dirtiest swamps on earth and religious hell holes.

Followers of Islamic cult, especially Sunni Saudi inspired Islamic radicals and militants (al-Qaida, Salaffi, Wahhabi, MB, Taliban and other label ones), are fast marching backwards to their seventh century desert tribal days.

They are indulging in rapings, lootings, killings and genocides of non-Muslims (Darfur, S. Sudan, Nigeria and spreading like wild fire in many regions and Muslims (Libya, Mali, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan and other places).

Sunni Saudi backed Salaffi and MB new chapters are opening up in Egypt. Just watch the fate of Christians, women and Israel as the time goes by.

Even in Syria, if Assad is overthrown by Sunni Islamic religious Nazis like al-Qaida, MB, the conditions of Christians will be unbearable just like Iraq.

In Afghanistan, half of NATO forces deaths are due to Pakis.

These two "strategic allies" have crippled US and allies so badly that US and allies can't do much anywhere and anything!

WychDoctor George, You need to read about the WWII Croatian State and the Ustase. It isn't just the Muslims nor has it ever been just them.

Amanda: "the Immaculate Conception involving Mary is described and they do acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah, Son of Mary."

And just to be clear, the Catholics' "Immaculate Conception" concept does NOT refer to Jesus' conception--or the "virgin birth"--but to MARY's (Jesus' Mom's conception). Many do not know this.

I'm not stating a case for or against this idea. Just clarifying that the "Immaculate Conception" refers to Mary herself being "conceived without the stain of original sin."

I, myself, believe ALL babies are conceived WITHOUT "original sin." But then again, I believe in spirituality (not "organized religion").

I love reading Amanda's comments, everytime I run across one of her post I have to stop and read it because she is a for real woman..........

That's what people thought about "Gay Girl in Damascus" too.

"Gay Girl in Damascus" too.

That would be that leftist dude (LOL)

Amanda-2017567

My belief system says

I have met "Her, or him" on newsvine before. I am a pagan, I lived with a woman who practiced Wicca for ten years.

Amanda has not shown any understanding of what she claims as her "faith" everything she has said, is, in fact contrary to the faith she says she believes in.

Amanda is propagating an idealised form of orthodox Sunni Islam. (Taqiyya?)on many articles, it's the same supportive nonsensical dogma.

I provided "her/him" with links to a Wiccan source, explaining why she was wrong, and it was ignored. She/him, asked questions, I gave answers. She came back with the usual deflections seen so often in the left, or a "submitted person" themselves.

http://wiccangrove.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/204/

Investigation of Manat, Al-Manat or Manawayat by Raven Crone

Arabic pre-Islamic Al-Manat is a very prominent, very ancient deity and her
following may have preceded both Al-Uzza’s and Al-Lat’s. Her religious
adhereants were widespread, athough She is worshipped as a black stone at
Quidaid, near Mecca. She is Ruler of Fate, Luck and Fortune, and She gets Her
name from the Arabic word maniya, “fate, destruction, doom, death”, or menata,
“part, portion, that which is alloted”.

Manat is known from Nabatean(1) inscriptions and tombs were placed under her
protection. People asked her to curse violators of the tombs. She is a figure of
death and in some poetry, She is holding out the cup of death. She is currently
venerated as the Vulva of the Goddess in a Sacred Stone at Mecca.

the black stone of the Kabba is allah. allah is a rock.

Being a pagan, or practicing Wicca, and seeing no problem with Islam, would be like being a black man supporting the KKK and it racial policies in the deep south, or a Jew, being a member of the Waffen SS in the 1940s.

Yeah, "Gay Girl in Damascus" turned out to be some white leftist westerner in Turkey pretending to be a Lesbian Muslim in Syria.

Good post kpr, I've had many of the same doubts myself.

Your final statement is the bottom line; Why does she defend at every turn the very creed that would eagerly annihilate her given half a chance?

Your post here Pankey, only highlights your ignorance. Your have a really ignorant version of Islam in your head based on a lack of information and bigotry. There are more than a Billion Muslims in the world and every time any of them do something stupid you want to make it about their religeon. Well, just substitute all the crime being committed in the christian countries and make it about Jesus. It would be the same. No recent example?: the Irish Catholics and Protestants, The Balkin Christians attempted genocide of the Balking Muslims in the nineties. People like you are like people like the Taliban; your allow your ignorance to foment hatred.

elithian...." There are more than a Billion muslims in the world and every time any of them do something stupid...."

Well barbaric acts like this perpetrated on little children are beyond stupid, and when, pray tell, have they been accused of doing something smart? If this is a small fraction of "bad muslims" giving good muslims a bad name, where are all the good muslims policing their own? If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

islam is an evil virus upon the world, spreading without rhyme, reason or logic, leaving death and destruction in its wake. Science has never killed a virus, all we can hope to do is contain it, let it kill all of its hosts, and then.....no virus. If the rest of the civilized world would understand that if we leave islamists alone, without us as their enemies they will eventually kill each other. Hopefully.

Sadly for the USA, the virus is already here and spreading. Just check out any youtube video of muslims in Dearborn, Michigan. Sickening.

What I find to be ironic is that all of the world's unrest is being created by "GOD" people.

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything"....Einstein

Does anyone else find it interesting that her parents have not said anything against the perpetrators of this evil on their daughter?

Seven-341804, how wrong you are.

And I'm fairly confident Einstein would be quite upset with the way you used his quote to express your hate and bigotry.

You're advocating ethnic cleansing, you are aware of that, right ?

Give It a Rest, you wrote "Islam, is a religion of peace". Was it a joke, a sarcastic remark or you really meant it? If you really meant it, then you should write your real name as we certainly think that you are a Moslem. The truth is Islam is no religion - it is an evil cult, founded by an evil self-proclaimed "prophet" named MuhamMAD, who was a sex-maniac, child molester, a fraud, a conman and a ferocious killer. All followers of this evil cult Islam are medieval savages and beasts. I am not saying it – the whole world is witnessing that as they kept killing nonstop and behaving like animals and beasts. Islamic monsters are so big heroes that they went after an innocent 14 years old girl to kill her because she wanted to have some education and acquire knowledge which of course is prohibited by their so-called holly (poisonous) book called Koran. That poisonous book Koran is nothing but a pack of lies and if you read that book, you don't need any formal terrorist training at all and it will teach you everything about cruelty, destruction's, killings, injustice and terrorism! But, the savages kept saying that Islam is a religion of peace which is a big lie and further from the truth! What a disgrace that is indeed! The world has become a miserable place to live only because of Islam and its savage followers. I hope the civilized world get together and wipe out that cancer named Islam for peace to prevail. Peace on earth sans Islam - the evil cult!

BF100, you really should try and get that hate out of your heart.

I personally prefer Qi Gong or Tai Ji, but some people say Yoga works wonders as well. Heck, I find any physical activity is a good release, even paintball !

Superskunk......If something needs to die and kills itself, it is called suicide not ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing is when one group decides to kill everyone of another group. It implies nothing about a group killing itself. (we can only hope)

"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice". Einstein

I really wish you would stop quoting Einstein, a great humanitarian towards ALL in his day. He's rolled over enough in his grave for one day.

Elithian: " No recent example?: the Irish Catholics and Protestants"

With respect, no. The "troubles" in Ireland have NOTHING to do with religion. It's politics and power. The Irish are Catholics. The British (and Scottish) invaders are Protestants. They invaded Ireland over a thousand years ago and the Irish have been trying to kick them out ever since. The 26 counties in the Southern Republic succeeded. The remaining 6 counties in Northern Ireland are still fighting. Of course, the passage of time complicates matters.

But it's not about religion. Although the US media would have you believe otherwise.

I can agree with you MSH, but then the same can be said of the whole USA federal government and "The War on Terror".

Superskunk........you must be a politician. When someone proves you wrong on a point, you ignore the point and change the subject. Very good. And speaking of skunk.....something stinks in Washington and I think it is called BO.

Seven-341804

Superskunk........you must be a politician. When someone proves you wrong on a point, you ignore the point and change the subject.

What you didn't do is prove me wrong on a point, what I did do was chose to ignore your ridiculous response.

But since you insist I will prove my point.

You advocate and hope for the eradication of islam throughout the world, regardless of how it's done, that is advocating ethnic cleansing. And you even take it further than just the Middle East, you want muslims in America dead as well according to your post.

I'm aware of the fact that you hope islam implodes, or kills all of it's hosts as you put it, which is ridiculous and shows you are either completely ignorant of islam or severely miseducated. Your clever wording can't hide your bigotry and hatred.

There are way too many peace loving Muslims world wide for any such thing to happen. Which in turn makes me sleep a lot better at night.....

Let me add: unlimited even in 21st century!

Pakistan.....

Pakistan and Afghan regions are almost similar in history.

Before Islamic cult set its foot in the region, it was a peaceful and prosperous region!

As Pakistan's population is higher and Islamic religious madness has crossed all tolerable limits, Pakistan needs attention.

In Afghanistan, Pakis have backstabbed the US and NATO forces big time. Half of NATO forces deaths are due to ungrateful and backstabbing Pakis.

When the NATO forces were entering Kandahar in 2001, Pakis airlifted key al-Qaida, Taliban, ISI and others militants by back door from Kandahar.

This includes Mullah Omar, Osama and many including Paki Haqqani militant network leaders.

Hope people remember about Pakis sheltering Osama.

These Paki Islamic religious Nazis don't bother about their people and they are into reckless killing games in the name of jihad.

Drone attacks are not enough. To reduce NATO forces losses, carpet bomb Paki militant areas just like 1991 Iraqi war.

There are chances of Paki nukes falling into these mad Islamic militants.

There is a need for carpet bombing of Islamic militant areas for world peace and saving world Islamic militants' nuke attacks.

Pakistan is her home and hopefully they can help her stay in her home land. The way the women are protesting theres a lot men who aren't getting (attention) tonight....

Agreed. Please join the FFRF and help fight religious idiocy.

F F R F . O R G

wrong joey....they have had century's and nothing has changed since what? about the third?

and we get your point, you are against religion, so are many but whoa.............

IA.ScooterTramp

wrong joey....they have had century's and nothing has changed since what? about the third?

and we get your point, you are against religion, so are many but whoa.............

They have had centuries, but they have also had significant outside interference based on natural resources and controlling those natural resources in most of that region, not just Pakistan. So while the rest of the Western World was moving into the new millennia and creating and being introduced to all these technological wonders, the Middle East was being oppressed by many outside forces.

Violence is never the answer for anything as Gandhi tried to teach the hindu's and muslims that were fighting amongst themselves, after they all peacefully came together to dispel the British from their lands without violence.

My point being while I find religious fundamentalists like these animals that shot Malala disgusting, I don't blame the entire region or religion. It's obvious that people are out there trying to make change, we're discussing one on this board. But it's quite difficult when outside governments and crazy religious fundamentalists oppress you and withhold education and technology.

Your name Superskunk says it all and I am more than sure that you are one of the followers of that evil cult called Islam! You should be lecturing to your fellow brain dead fools instead of me. Thank you for your suggestion for Yoga (which I do regularly) but, you should suggest same to your fellow retarded & brain dead Moslem brothers and sisters just to save them from disaster waiting for them. Evil Nazism and Communism has almost been wiped out from the world and Islam will also vanish from this planet earth. Make no mistake about that. Evil can not triumph, never did in the past and never will in the future. Only brain-dead fools like you can save yourselves from drowning in your own poison by denouncing your phony, medieval, barbaric and militant cult named Islam and embrace any other religion of real peace. That will be good for you and peace will prevail. Get cure of that disease called "Islam" and get well soon. Wish you well!

BF100

Your name Superskunk says it all and I am more than sure that you are one of the followers of that evil cult called Islam!

Actually I'm more irreligious than anything. And I would NEVER consider joining ANY of the monotheistic religions including christianity, judaism, or islam.

You're also obviously quite uneducated or miseducated about islam.

You're also obviously uneducated or miseducated about communism as well.

You might want to try something different or understand what Yoga is all about, because you're still quite angry and acting childish with the name calling and wrong assumptions.

The difference is I base my opinions and views off an emotion called love, you base yours off of hate.

I hope you can find a way to end your war against love, and get that hate out of your heart. I love you.

I think you are way off the point, no doubt from your basic ignorance.

At any rate....all religions rely on ignorance and belief in order to continue to exist.

hank

she was too old for Mohammad..........

Brain-washed religious zealots originate in the families of any religious family whose parents raise them in that particular religion.

What! Kids in the US aren't brainwashed by their parents? Keep whizzing in the wind, They are taught very well with the exception on respecting others people rights.

Scooter, sounds more like a gang. The big guys tell the little fish what to do so they can earn their "stripes".

6dogs

What! Kids in the US aren't brainwashed by their parents? Keep whizzing in the wind, They are taught very well with the exception on respecting others people rights.

Ummmmm, have you seen any scientologist kids, or the kids from the Westboro Baptist Church ?!?!?!?

hank.....how many people do you think will read all of that?

i did...............did you?

That's the problem - more people should. However, a large percentage of people in this country are fundamentally ignorant about even their own religion, content to be 'saved' without having to actually work for it. We should all learn more about others - education & understanding leads to tolerance (which we need a lot more of in this country). We are supposed to believe in freedom of religion, but all too many people think that just means freedom to make others abide by their religion.

That's the true Islam but the Taliban follows their own perverted version of the religion. For profit and power and to keep women ignorant and in the home. Like all religions it can be used to promote just causes or it can be used to discriminate against those that are feared by the ignorant small minded men that practice the word of their God.

All radical religious zealots are nothing more than power hungry dictators using the book of God to practice hatred and oppression.

@Hank-1773286

The Koran also allows men 4 wives and 72 virgins so again more contradictions. There are several brave women who escaped Islam and they recommend complete abolishment of Islam.

Seriously, "Hank"? Are you a Muslim, dhimmi or just a troll? When you're in a gun fight, you don't read a book about the other gunfighter. We're way past the point of reading the delusional writings of Islam and or the writings of dhimmi, apologist, useful idiots for Islam like you. Every time you Muslims commit an atrocity, there's always some "explainer" like you to whitewash it and rationalize it away, to tell us that what we see is not what's real, but that the delusional, warped, pathological writings of old bearded farts in the Middle East are what's real. We don't want or need explanations referring back to some thousand+- year old writings. Give it up. Nobody believes your bullsh*t. It's over. The more bullsh*t you spew, the less people believe you. Islam is poison ... and you know it.

this is all nice and good but,how many muslims in the middle east can even read this!Many of them depend on the interpretation of the quran by their holy leaders,who twist the meaning to suit their own purpose.This is how the "muslim terrorist" is born.

Pray Hard - I could substitute Christian for Muslim/Islam throughout your entire comment and it would be just as accurate. Funny how that works... When throwing stones, be careful that you're not throwing them at yourself.

Thank you Hank.

US needs more education too. If we sought even the most basic information on all the world religions, we would get along. The Quran instructs, "Make due allowances; enjoin what is just; and withdraw from the ignorant." Good advice in all our religions. :)

Really Jen maybe you should go buy yourself a Calendar and tell me where else are 40 year old men legally marrying 11 year old girls and shooting 14 year girls for religious reasons other than in muslim countries. Well all the muslim apologists are here today so I'm going shopping luckily I don't have to wrap my head up like a hospital patient to be out in public.

did you write that all yourself. way to much to read.

Pray Hard-662027

Seriously, "Hank"? Are you a Muslim, dhimmi or just a troll? When you're in a gun fight, you don't read a book about the other gunfighter. We're way past the point of reading the delusional writings of Islam and or the writings of dhimmi, apologist, useful idiots for Islam like you. Every time you Muslims commit an atrocity, there's always some "explainer" like you to whitewash it and rationalize it away, to tell us that what we see is not what's real, but that the delusional, warped, pathological writings of old bearded farts in the Middle East are what's real. We don't want or need explanations referring back to some thousand+- year old writings. Give it up. Nobody believes your bullsh*t. It's over. The more bullsh*t you spew, the less people believe you. Islam is poison ... and you know it.

You should check out post 1.22 by Travis-1944, he made an excellent point.

You fail to realize that every one involved in this story is muslim. From Malala, to whoever took care of her on the way to the hospital, to everyone at the hospital including the doctors.

So this peaceful, beautiful, loving little girl was........*GASP*........ a muslim !!!! Say it ain't so Pray Hard !

Latekate, perhaps you need to stop trolling? Seriously.

And lets not forget that meither the Quran nor the Bible were ever written by god. And that it was man who has written these books and most of us are intelligent enough to know this fact no matter what religion a person may choose to follow.

Really Jen maybe you should go buy yourself a Calendar and tell me where else are 40 year old men legally marrying 11 year old girls and shooting 14 year girls for religious reasons

What the hell are you babbling about?

liked post 19 better then this one. on this one i am afriad i simply must disagree....................:)

Yes, he does care (God)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But it is humans (mankind) that do evils in the name of their God. No matter the denomanation, times.....or organiznation. And I did not know his (God's) job was open to anyone else. So a lot of people say in gods name, but you have to remember it is not God doing these evils it's man using God as an excuse......

Amanda clearly explains above in a true statement that their god is our god Sleepinsadie....

These men are just bad men who seek to opress the women of their country for as long as they can..... This has nothing to do with any god.....

Most women here in our country too were stay at home moms who feared to go make a life for themselves back in the 50's and before due to the way men treated them. Look at our women today. The movement alone is every bit of sacrifice along the way.....

We should face this just as we faced this situation here in our countries past. This is a womens rights movement and it has very bloody in pakistan as well as all across the Middle East. Here in USA I don't think it got so bloody and took a more political route to get there. The Pakistani people will get there too. We should assist them as they have a ways to go to achieve what it has slowly taken us 50 years to accomplish in United States.

And let us not forget all the sexist acts against our women as we progressed which lead to new laws for our womens safty. Its a long road but the Middle East will get there too.....

kudos to you sighber, well put.....you may have a cookie...............

Hi sighber---thank you for sharing that. We are all human, and will, as humans, have knee jerk reactions to awful news. We all have emotions. It is wisdom to NOT always say the first thing that jumps into ones mind--or onto the keyboard. You reviewed what you had written, then thought better of it, and so deleted it. Emotions are neither right or wrong--they just 'ARE'. It's what we DO with those emotions that counts for wisdom, or foolishness as each case may be. Thank you for choosing the wise response.

sighber,I agree...

So true sighber and thx for that statement as we all know the truth when we hear it.....

Character assassination is so much easier & safer the physical assassination.

Segues attacking people irrelevant to the matter at hand is rather tawdry discourse.

yep hes down at the local 7-11...........................:)

if not try his brothers motel..............................:)

or at the local "kurd - i - stan(d)"

I am not anti-religion in the least, but both Jewish and Christian Scripture contain passages in which people ask God to dash the heads of the babies of their enemies against stones, ask God to rip fetuses out of the wombs of certain kinds of women, or ask God to allow the fetuses of certain women to wither in their wombs. There is also a passage which instructs parents to take a disobedient son to the village elders, that he might be stoned to death. Other passages in Scripture counter these things, but if all of it comes from God, then God seems to be a bit confused, at least if we take all Scripture literally. Because of this, I am not a person "of the Book". I think there's a "bigger picture" re: "God" that doesn't have anything to do with a Deity who on the face of things, is schizophrenic.

Don't ever take any scripture literally. When someone tells you he's got the one-and-only, absolute, unquestionable, irrefutable, guaranteed-or-your-money-back word of God, you're being played. Played for a sucker, a sap, a fool, like a cheap fiddle. Either that, or this mouthpiece of God is hearing voices.

If you talk to God, it's prayer. If God talks to you, it's schizophrenia.

Nikolaus20 god has written no books ever upon earth. Like Musician666 has said clearly man wrote these books and all rational people know this.... They didn't copy down any words that god told them too. And if you beleive such things then you are not rational either.....

And in defence of the Muslim religion there are many good words in the Quran and the Bible too. But sometimes men twist things to mean what they want and don't care what others may want. Which is saddening, but we simply have to determine which has our best wishes at heart and whos leading us down the wrong roads....

That may be so Pray Hard, which makes me wonder how well do you know your Neighbors......

I'd like to add ignoramus, fool, & child killer.