Opposition: Syria rebels capture air base as clashes break out across country

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Smoke rises over the Syrian border town of Azmarin during clashes Friday between the Syrian army and rebels.

BEIRUT -- Syrian rebels captured an air defense base east of the key city of Aleppo on Friday as government forces battled insurgents on several fronts across the country, anti-regime activists said.

Clashes were also taking place at a military barracks close to Maarat al-Nuaman, a town on the main highway to Aleppo that was seized by rebel forces earlier this week, the U.K.-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.


Aleppo, in the northwest of the country, is Syria's largest city and commercial hub. It has been fiercely contested since July.

The pro-opposition Observatory gave a death toll for Thursday of more than 260 people, including civilians and combatants on both sides in violence in the capital and the north, west and east.

It said 92 soldiers were killed on Thursday, which would be one of the highest daily casualty counts on the government side since the uprising against President Bashar Assad broke out in March 2011.

The official SANA news agency also reported fighting nationwide and said dozens of rebels, which it called "mercenary terrorists," had been killed.

The reports could not be independently verified. If true, however, they indicate a rapidly intensifying conflict, with the death tolls of the past several weeks far exceeding previous months.

Clashes on the border with Turkey
Although international attention has focused on the Turkish border in the past week, Aleppo and the city of Homs -- north of Damascus and near the border with Lebanon -- are being fought over and clashes take place almost daily in the suburbs of the capital Damascus as well as in the countryside.

Turkey: Syria plane carried Russian-made munitions

Turkey scrambled two fighter planes to the border with Syria on Friday after a Syrian military helicopter bombed the Syrian border town of Azmarin, according to a Reuters witness.

Fighting along Turkey’s 560-mile border with Syria has repeatedly spilled over into Turkish territory in the past week, with the Turkish army responding in kind to gunfire and mortar shells fired from Syria.

Turkish Chief of Staff Gen. Necdet Ozel said Wednesday his troops would respond "with greater force" if the shells continued to land on Turkish soil, and parliament last week authorized the deployment of troops beyond Turkey, heightening fears that Syria's civil war will drag in regional powers.

Turkey forces Syrian plane suspected of carrying weapons to land

Jihadi group reportedly takes part in base assault
The Observatory said the air defense base seized by the rebels was located in al-Tana village by the Koris military airport on the road east from Aleppo to al-Raqqa.

Videos posted online Friday claiming to have been shot inside the base said the extremist group, Jabhat al-Nusra, participated in the battle, according to The Associated Press. The videos show dozens of fighters inside the base near a radar tower, along with rows of large missiles, some on the backs of trucks.

A report by a correspondent with the Arabic satellite network Al-Jazeera who visited the base Friday said Jabhat al-Nusra had seized the base. The report showed a number of missiles and charred buildings, as fighters covered their faces with black cloths.

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Two Aleppo-based activists and Rami Abdul-Rahman, head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, also said Jabhat al-Nusra fought in the battle.

Little is known about Jabhat al-Nusra, or the Support Front, which began claiming attacks in Syria earlier this year in postings on jihadi forums often used by al-Qaida. While neither group has officially acknowledged the other, analysts say al-Nusra's tactics, jihadist rhetoric and use of al-Qaida forums point to an affiliation.

Western powers -- and many Syrians-- worry that Islamist extremists are playing an increasing role in Syria's civil war.

Highway route cut
Meanwhile, the capture of Maarat al-Nuaman cut the highway between Aleppo and Homs, the main route for the government to resupply and reinforce the northern city.

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SANA said government forces were mounting operations to clear rebels from Aleppo's Karm al-Jabal area on Friday.

More than 30,000 people have been killed in the conflict, which began as a popular uprising against four decades of Assad family rule before descending into civil war. The armed forces have relied heavily on air power and artillery to hold back the rebels.

Fighting has also spilled over the borders into Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, raising concern that the fighting could spread across the region, now home to 340,000 Syrian refugees.

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It's sad that Turkey and Syria are in a shadow war. Hopefully it won't escalate. But even if it does, we need to stay out of it. Although Turkey is nominally a member of NATO, we must let them resolve this dispute on their own. We are tied down in other conflicts and our national debt is $16 trillion and growing. We must stay far, far away from this mess.

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Reply#1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:18 AM EDT

I agree, and I believe most people do. Unfortunately, niether the repubs nor the dems have a real good record when it comes this type of thing.

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#1.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:30 AM EDT

NATO has already committed to defending Turkey. Whether they use the U.S. definition of 'proactive defense' and invade attacking countries (or ones that look at us funny) or whether they simply defend Turkish soil from what would be a weak Syrian attack remains to be seen.

I don't see NATO getting involved in Turkey unless Russia becomes more actively supportive of Syria.

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#1.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

Didn't you hear? War is good business. Or at least I assume so given the GOP insists on cutting everything but the military. I guess it's easier to carry around a bigger gun than to be less of a douchebag to foreign countries.

Oh wait.

    #1.3 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

    Alex Le, if you read the U.S. Constitution and the writings of the framers of that great document, you will find that the primary purpose of the federal government was supposed to be to protect the country from hostile forces. After a long battle, the states retained their rights and were supposed to take care of most of the rest of needs of the citizens.

    Obviously, the feds, over many years and presidents, has added a great deal to its repetoire - much to the dismay of my tax bill.

    So, do you think it would be better if our armed force was weak, but we all kept getting fatter off of gov't subsidies?

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    #1.4 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

    dougjmiller so you would have forgo our international obligations. What message will send out to the rest of NATO members if were to tell Turkey, if she asks for help, sory we are busy right now?

      #1.5 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

      Didn't you hear? War is good business. Or at least I assume so given the GOP insists on cutting everything but the military. I guess it's easier to carry around a bigger gun than to be less of a douchebag to foreign countries.

      Didnt you hear? The obama administration isnt part of the GOP.

      Get a @!$%#ing clue

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      #1.6 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

      If NATO does take an active role then so be it. JUST DON'T USE AMERICAN TROOPS !!!!! There are other countries in NATO with good armies that can fight that fight. They would have more, better, and shorter supply lines than we do to support or fight in that area.

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      #1.7 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:53 AM EDT

      "nominally a member of NATO"

      nominally? WTH? I guess France, Germany, Italy, USA, etc are just "nominally" members of NATO? Turkey has been a member of NATO since 1952.

      Is it "nominally" because it's the only Muslim country in NATO?

        #1.8 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

        Hello folks, if you want to know where, what, why and when (before the elections) regarding the current political and corporate strife that is going on in Syria and the Middle East, please read the enclosed article. This may be the single most important article you have read in your life.

        Syria, Turkey, Israel and a Greater Middle East Energy War – by F. William Engdahl

        Source: Veterans Today
        October 11, 2012

        Pipeline Roulette

        On October 3, 2012 the Turkish military launched repeated mortar shellings inside Syrian territory.

        The military action, which was used by the Turkish military, conveniently, to establish a ten-kilometer wide no-man’s land “buffer zone” inside Syria, was in response to the alleged killing by Syrian armed forces of several Turkish civilians along the border.

        There is widespread speculation that the one Syrian mortar that killed five Turkish civilians well might have been fired by Turkish-backed opposition forces intent on giving Turkey a pretext to move militarily, in military intelligence jargon, a ‘false flag’ operation.[i]

        Turkey’s Muslim Brotherhood-friendly Foreign Minister, the inscrutable Ahmet Davutoglu, is the government’s main architect of Turkey’s self-defeating strategy of toppling its former ally Bashar Al-Assad in Syria.[ii]

        According to one report since 2006 under the government of Islamist Sunni Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his pro-Brotherhood AKP party, Turkey has become a new center for the Global Muslim Brotherhood.[iii] A well-informed Istanbul source relates the report that before the last Turkish elections, Erdogan’s AKP received a “donation” of $10 billion from the Saudi monarchy, the heart of world jihadist Salafism under the strict fundamentalist cloak of Wahabism. [iv]

        Since the 1950’s when the CIA brought leading members in exile of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood to Saudi Arabia there has been a fusion between the Saudi brand of Wahabism and the aggressive jihadist fundamentalism of the Brotherhood.[v]

        The Turkish response to the single Syrian mortar shell, which was met with an immediate Syrian apology for the incident, borders on a full-scale war between two nations which until last year were historically, culturally, economically and even in religious terms, closest of allies.

        That war danger is ever more serious. Turkey is a full member of NATO whose charter explicitly states, an attack against one NATO state is an attack against all. The fact that nuclear-armed Russia and China both have made defense of the Syrian Bashar al-Assad regime a strategic priority puts the specter of a World War closer than most of us would like to imagine.

        In a December 2011 analysis of the competing forces in the region, former CIA analyst Philip Giraldimade the following prescient observation:

        NATO – Has it become a geopolitical energy army now?

        NATO is already clandestinely engaged in the Syrian conflict, with Turkey taking the lead as U.S. proxy. Ankara’s foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, has openly admitted that his country is prepared to invade as soon as there is agreement among the Western allies to do so.

        The intervention would be based on humanitarian principles, to defend the civilian population based on the “responsibility to protect” doctrine that was invoked to justify Libya. Turkish sources suggest that intervention would start with creation of a buffer zone along the Turkish-Syrian border and then be expanded. Aleppo, Syria’s largest and most cosmopolitan city, would be the crown jewel targeted by liberation forces.

        Unmarked NATO warplanes are arriving at Turkish military bases close to Iskenderum on the Syrian border, delivering weapons from the late Muammar Gaddafi’s arsenals as well as volunteers from the Libyan Transitional National Council who are experienced in pitting local volunteers against trained soldiers, a skill they acquired confronting Gaddafi’s army.

        Iskenderum is also the seat of the Free Syrian Army, the armed wing of the Syrian National Council. French and British special forces trainers are on the ground, assisting the Syrian rebels while the CIA and U.S. Spec Ops are providing communications equipment and intelligence to assist the rebel cause, enabling the fighters to avoid concentrations of Syrian soldiers. [vi]

        ____________________________________

        Israel mobile artillery on the move during exercise

        Little noted was the fact that at the same day as Turkey launched her over-proportional response in the form of a military attack on Syrian territory, one which was still ongoing as of this writing, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) undertook what was apparently an action to divert Syria’s attention from Turkey and to create the horror scenario of a two-front war just as Germany faced in two world wars.

        The IDF made a significant troop buildup on the strategic Golan Heights bordering the two countries, which, since Israel took it in the 1967 war, has been an area of no tension.[vii]

        The unfolding new phase of direct foreign military intervention by Turkey, supported de facto by Israel’s right-wing Netanyahu regime, curiously enough follows to the letter a scenario outlined by a prominent Washington neo-conservative think tank, the Brookings Institution.

        In their March 2012 strategy white paper, Saving Syria: Assessing Options for Regime Change, Brookings geo-political strategists laid forth a plan to misuse so-called humanitarian concern over civilian deaths, as in Libya in 2011, to justify an aggressive military intervention into Syria, something not done before this.[viii]

        The Brookings report states the following scenario:

        Israel could posture forces on or near the Golan Heights and, in so doing, might divert regime forces from suppressing the opposition. This posture may conjure fears in the Assad regime of a multi-front war, particularly if Turkey is willing to do the same on its border and if the Syrian opposition is being fed a steady diet of arms and training.[ix]

        This seems to be precisely what is unfolding in the early days of October 2012. The authors of the Brookings report are tied to some of the more prominent neo-conservative warhawks behind the Bush-Cheney war on Iraq.

        Their sponsor, the Saban Center for Middle East Policy, includes current foreign policy advisers to Republican right-wing candidate Mitt Romney, the open favorite candidate of Israel’s Netanyahu.

        Haim Saban – A lot to smile about

        The Brookings Saban Center for Middle East Policy which issued the report, is the creation of a major donation from Haim Saban, an Israeli-American media billionaire who also owns the huge German Pro7 media giant.

        Haim Saban is open about his aim to promote specific Israeli interests with his philanthropy. The New York Timesonce called Saban, “a tireless cheerleader for Israel.”

        Saban told the same newspaper in an interview in 2004, “I’m a one-issue guy and my issue is Israel.” [x] The scholars at Saban as well as its board have a clear neo-conservative and Likud party bias.

        They include, past or present, Shlomo Yanai, former head of military planning, Israel Defense Forces; Martin Indyk, former US Ambassador to Israel and founder of the pro-Israel Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), a major Likud policy lobby in Washington.

        Visiting fellows have included Avi Dicter, former head of Israel’s Shin Bet; Yosef Kupperwasser, former Head, Research Department, Israeli Defense Force’s Directorate of Military Intelligence.

        Resident scholars also include Bruce Riedel, a 30 year CIA Middle East expert and Obama Afghan adviser; [xi] Kenneth Pollack, another former CIA Middle East expert who was indicted in an Israel espionage scandal when he was a national security official with the Bush Administration. [xii]

        Why would Israel want to get rid of the “enemy she knows,” Bashar al-Assad, for a regime controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood? Then Israel’s security would seemingly be threatened by the emergence of hard-line Muslim Brotherhood regimes in Egypt to her south and Syria to her North, perhaps soon also in Jordan.

        The geopolitical dimension

        Will the little people fight and die over oil for the big people?

        The significant question to be asked at this point is what could bind Israel, Turkey, Qatar in a form of unholy alliance on the one side, and Assad’s Syria, Iran, Russia and China on the other side, in such deadly confrontation over the political future of Syria? One answer is energy geopolitics.

        What has yet to be fully appreciated in geopolitical assessments of the Middle East is the dramatically rising importance of the control of natural gas to the future of not only Middle East gas producing countries, but also of the EU and Eurasia including Russia as producer and China as consumer.

        Natural gas is rapidly becoming the “clean energy” of choice to replace coal and nuclear electric generation across the European Union, most especially since Germany’s decision to phase out nuclear after the Fukushima disaster. Gas is regarded as far more “environmentally friendly” in terms of its so-called “carbon footprint.”

        The only realistic way EU governments, from Germany to France to Italy to Spain, will be able to meet EU mandated CO2 reduction targets by 2020 is a major shift to burning gas instead of coal. Gas reduces CO2 emissions by 50-60% over coal.[xiii]

        Given that the economic cost of using gas instead of wind or other alternative energy forms is dramatically lower, gas is rapidly becoming the energy of demand for the EU, the biggest emerging gas market in the world.

        Huge gas resource discoveries in Israel, in Qatar and in Syria combined with the emergence of the EU as the world’s potentially largest natural gas consumer, combine to create the seeds of the present geopolitical clash over the Assad regime.

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        Syria-Iran-Iraq Gas pipeline

        Is our navy fighting for oil interests?

        In July 2011, as the NATO and Gulf states’ destabilization operations against Assad in Syria were in full swing, the governments of Syria, Iran and Iraq signed an historic gas pipeline energy agreement which went largely unnoticed amid CNN reports of the Syrian unrest.

        The pipeline, envisioned to cost $10 billion and take three years to complete, would run from the Iranian Port Assalouyeh near the South Pars gas field in the Persian Gulf, to Damascus in Syria via Iraq territory. Iran ultimately plans then to extend the pipeline from Damascus to Lebanon’s Mediterranean port where it would be delivered to EU markets. Syria would buy Iranian gas along with a current Iraqi agreement to buy Iranian gas from Iran’s part of South Pars field.

        South Pars, whose gas reserves lie in a huge field that is divided between Qatar and Iran in the Gulf, is believed to be the world’s largest single gas field. [xiv] De facto it would be a Shi’ite gas pipeline from Shi’ite Iran via Shi’ite-majority Iraq onto Shi’ite-friendly Alawite Al-Assad’s Syria.

        Iran and Qatar – head to head – but with Qatar having big brother

        Adding to the geopolitical drama is the fact that the South Pars gas find lies smack in the middle of the territorial divide in the Persian Gulf between Shi’ite Iran and the Sunni Salafist Qatar.

        Qatar also just happens to be a command hub for the Pentagon’s US Central Command, headquarters of United States Air Forces Central, No. 83 Expeditionary Air Group RAF, and the 379th Air Expeditionary Wing of the USAF.

        In brief Qatar, in addition to owning and hosting the anti-Al-Assad TV station Al-Jazeera, which beams anti-Syria propaganda across the Arab world, Qatar is tightly linked to the US and NATO military presence in the Gulf.

        Qatar apparently has other plans with their share of the South Pars field than joining up with Iran, Syria and Iraq to pool efforts.

        Qatar has no interest in the success of the Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline, which would be entirely independent of Qatar or Turkey transit routes to the opening EU markets.

        In fact it is doing everything possible to sabotage it, up to and including arming Syria’s rag-tag “opposition” fighters, many of them Jihadists sent in from other countries including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Libya.

        Further adding to Qatar’s determination to destroy the Syria-Iran-Iraq gas cooperation is the discovery in August 2011 by Syrian exploration companies of a huge new gas field in Qara near the border with Lebanon and near to the Russian-leased Naval port of Tarsus on the Syrian Mediterranean.[xv]

        Pepe Escobar

        Any export of Syrian or Iranian gas to the EU would go through the Russian-tied port of Tarsus. According to informed Algerian sources, the new Syrian gas discoveries, though the Damascus government is downplaying it, are believed to equal or exceed those of Qatar.

        As Asia Times’ knowledgeable analyst Pepe Escobar pointed out in a recent piece, Qatar’s scheme calls for export of its huge gas reserves via Jordan’s Gulf of Aqaba, a country where a Muslim Brotherhood threat to the dictatorship of the King is also threatening.

        The Emir of Qatar has apparently cut a deal with the Muslim Brotherhood in which he backs their international expansion in return for a pact of peace at home in Qatar.

        A Muslim Brotherhood regime in Jordan and also in Syria, backed by Qatar, would change the entire geopolitics of the world gas market suddenly and decisively in Qatar’s favor and to the disadvantage of Russia, Syria, Iran and Iraq. [xvi] That would also be a staggering negative blow to China.

        As Escobar points out,

        “it’s clear what Qatar is aiming at: to kill the US$10 billion Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline, a deal that was clinched even as the Syria uprising was already underway. Here we see Qatar in direct competition with both Iran (as a producer) and Syria (as a destination), and to a lesser extent, Iraq (as a transit country). It’s useful to remember that Tehran and Baghdad are adamantly against regime change in Damascus.”

        He adds, “if there’s regime change in Syria – helped by the Qatari-proposed invasion – things get much easier in Pipelineistan terms. A more than probable Muslim Brotherhood (MB) post-Assad regime would more than welcome a Qatari pipeline. And that would make an extension to Turkey much easier.” [xvii]

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        The Israeli Gas dilemma

        Was the peak oil hype nothing more than a price rigging psy ops?

        Further complicating the entire picture is the recent discovery of huge offshore Israeli natural gas resources.

        The Tamar natural gas field off the coast of northern Israel is expected to begin yielding gas for Israel’s use in late 2012. The game-changer was a dramatic discovery in late 2010 of an enormous natural gas field offshore of Israel in what geologists call the Levant or Levantine Basin.

        In October 2010 Israel discovered a massive “super-giant” gas field offshore in what it declares is its Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). [xviii]

        The find is some 84 miles west of the Haifa port and three miles deep. They named it Leviathan after the Biblical sea monster.

        Three Israeli energy companies in cooperation with the Houston Texas Noble Energy announced initial estimates that the field contained 16 trillion cubic feet of gas—making it the world’s biggest deep-water gas find in a decade, adding more discredit to “peak oil” theories that the planet is about to see dramatic and permanent shortages of oil, gas and coal.

        To put the number in perspective, that one gas field, Leviathan, would hold enough reserves to supply Israel’s gas needs for 100 years.[xix]

        Energy self-sufficiency had eluded the state of Israel since its founding in 1948. Abundant oil and gas exploration had repeatedly been undertaken with meager result. Unlike its energy-rich Arab neighbors, Israel seemed out of luck.

        Then in 2009 Israel’s Texas exploration partner, Noble Energy, discovered the Tamar field in the Levantine Basin some 50 miles west of Israel’s port of Haifa with an estimated 8.3 tcf (trillion cubic feet) of highest quality natural gas. Tamar was the world’s largest gas discovery in 2009.

        Israel discovered huge gas in Levantine Basin with Noble Energy. Source: Noble Energy map

        At the time, total Israeli gas reserves were estimated at only 1.5 tcf. Government estimates were that Israel’s sole operating field, Yam Tethys, which supplies about 70 percent of the country’s natural gas, would be depleted within three years.

        With Tamar, prospects began to look considerably better. Then, just a year after Tamar, the same consortium led by Noble Energy struck the largest gas find in its decades-long history at Leviathan in the same Levantine geological basin. Present estimates are that the Leviathan field holds at least 17 tcf of gas. Israel went from a gas famine to feast in a matter of months.[xx]

        Now Israel faces a strategic and very dangerous dilemma. Naturally Israel is none too excited to see al-Assad’s Syria, linked to Israel’s arch foe Iran and Iraq and Lebanon, out-compete an Israeli gas export to the EU markets. This could explain why Israel’s Netanyahu government has been messing inside Syria in the anti-al-Assad forces.

        However, a Muslim Brotherhood rule in Syria led by the organization around Mohammad Shaqfah would confront Israel with far more hostile neighbors now that the Muslim Brotherhood coup by Egypt’s President Mohamed Morsi has put a hostile regime on Israel’s southern border.

        Dalia Mogahed

        It is no secret that there is enmity bordering on hate between Netanyahu and the Obama Administration. The Obama White House and US State Department openly back the Muslim Brotherhood regime changes in the Middle East.

        Hillary Clinton’s meeting with Turkey’s Davutoglu in August this year was reportedly aimed at pushing Turkey to escalate its military intervention into Syria, but without direct US support owing to US election politics of wanting to avoid involvement in a new Middle East debacle.[xxi]

        State Department Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin has been accused by several Republican Congress Representatives of ties to organizations controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood.

        Dalia Mogahed, Obama’s appointee to the Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, also a member of the US advisory council of the Department of Homeland Security, is openly linked to the Muslim Brotherhood and an open foe of Israel as well as calling for the toppling of Syria’s al-Assad. [xxii]

        Obama’s Washington definitely seems to be backing the Muslim Brotherhood horse in the race for control of the gas flows of the Middle East.

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        And the Russian role

        Washington is walking a temporary tightrope hoping to weaken al-Assad fatally while not appearing directly involved. Russia for its part is playing a life and death game for the future of its most effective geopolitical lever—its role as the leading natural gas supplier to the EU.

        This year Russia’s state-owned Gazprom began delivery of Russian gas to northern Germany via Nord Stream gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea from a port near St. Petersburg.

        Strategically vital now for the future role of Russia as an EU gas supplier, is its ability to play a strategic role in exploiting the new-found gas reserves of its former Cold war client state, Syria. Moscow has long been engaged in promoting its South Stream gas pipeline into Europe as an alternative to the Washington Nabucco pipeline which was designed to leave Moscow out in the cold. [xxiii]

        Already Gazprom is the largest natural gas supplier to the EU. Gazprom with Nord Stream and other lines plans to increase its gas supply to Europe this year by 12% to 155 billion cubic meters. It now controls 25% of the total European gas market and aims to reach 30% with completion of South Stream and other projects.

        Rainer Seele, chairman of Germany’s Wintershall, the Gazprom partner in Nord Stream, suggested the geopolitical thinking behind the decision to join South Stream:

        “In the global race against Asian countries for raw materials, South Stream, like Nord Stream, will ensure access to energy resources which are vital to our economy.” But rather than Asia, the real focus of South Stream lies to the West.

        The ongoing battle between Russia’s South Stream and the Washington-backed Nabucco is intensely geopolitical. The winner will hold a major advantage in the future political terrain of Europe”.[xxiv]

        Erdogan – Knows Turkey is at the cross roads of history

        Now a major new option of Syria as a major source for Russian-managed gas flows to the EU has emerged. If al-Assad survives, Russia will be in the position as savior to play a decisive role in developing and exploiting the Syrian gas.

        Israel, where Russia also has major cards to play, could theoretically shift to back a Russian-Syrian-Iraqi-Iran gas consortium were Israel and Iran to reach some modus vivendi on the nuclear and other issues, not impossible were the political constellation in Israel to change after the coming elections.

        Turkey, which is presently in a deep internal battle between Davutoglu and President Gül on the one side and Erdogan on the other, is dependent on Russia’s Gazprom for some 40% of gas to its industry.

        Were Davutoglu and his faction to lose, Turkey could play a far more constructive role in the region as transit country for Syrian and Iranian gas.

        The battle for the future control of Syria is at the heart of this enormous geopolitical war and tug of war. Its resolution will have enormous consequences for either world peace or endless war and conflict and slaughter.

        NATO member Turkey is playing with fire as is Qatar’s Emir, along with Israel’s Netanyahu and NATO members France and USA. Natural gas is the flammable ingredient that is fueling this insane scramble for energy in the region.

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        #1.9 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

        Well said my man , but nobody listen , I think we have made our minds up to back these Alqaqida and Muslims brother hood thugs in Syria , even though they are killing the Christians people and destroying what Syria is all about , If the Russians don't take a firm stand with Turkey , Turkey going to push their way into Syria , and I hope Syria uses every thing in their power , Chemical weapons and all , because these no good Saudis and Qataris are asking for it , if it was not for the US , Qatar would not even dare to wipe the Syrian people ass's before their permission , Its sad what we became . helping the same people that attacked here on 9/11 and in Libya and Afghanistan and people here have no clue what happening , but they want to destroy Syria . what a freaking shame .

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        #1.10 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

        Let see if I understand you correctly............."and I hope,Syria uses everything in their power, Chemical weapons and all..........". You are advocating the use of Chemical weapons, weapons of Mass Destruction ? You're saying you want to unleash weapons that kill everyone.....?

        I'm not attacking what side you take here or, what your politics are......I really don't care. But to say you want to turn lose weapons. That kill yours, mine, ours. . . . .Is just plain flat.......Nuts.

          #1.11 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:25 PM EDT
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          Why does the U.S. Government have to wait until 2014 before exiting our troops out of Afghanistan? Two Thousand dead U.S. soldiers is far too many already, not to mention the thousands wounded! Russia bailed out when the economy of Russia was at stake, we should take a lesson from them and get our "butts" out of that HELL HOLE sooner rather than later! Besides, our troops CAN-NOT trust anyone in that godforsaken country (including the Afghan soldiers that the NATO forces have trained) is total proof of that! How sad it has become when our troops are being killed by the weapons and bullets they have put into the hands of these murdering, corrupt infidels.....

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          Reply#2 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

          We have a serious problem understanding the underlying reasons for this conflict are largely old soviet allies continuing to support the federation by purchasing arms and advisories and allowing the russian bastion to continue operating in the region... Hence providing them ( assad regime ) with not only an extremely powerful ally but a means to continue his dictatorship of oppression. Obviously the people are frustrated enough with this dictatorship to rise up against it, that is no secret. This is a civil war and has been for a LONG time. But we can also liken this technically to the vietnam conflict in that we are wetting our feet already, providing equipment ( non weapon ) and advisors to the opposition force. ( We also have marines in libya which could easily spark a modern iteration of the gulf of tonkin incident(s) and end up with MORE troops on the ground.. ). With that said, you can see there is much more to this than the media and our own politicians would like us to know... ( obviously ).. So can we not say that this is just a modern evolution of old elitist Russian and American rogue politico conflict>? Which has been raging largely since the end of the second world war... And is seemingly about to cause a third world war... And the scariest part of it is there is no REAL solution. Every avenue is fraught with peril, and we are pretty much guaranteed global conflict will rage on, and gain in ferocity, for the rest of ALL of our lives. If you are reading this, you are among us. We are the lost generation.

            Reply#3 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:51 AM EDT

            Interesting observation. The US sides with our NATO ally Turkey. The Russians side with their ally (for some reason) Syria. I think some "dust up" in 1914 started with the same sort of dynamics.

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            Reply#4 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

            Here we go again. As bad as it sounds it takes a strong dictator like Assad to keep the savage militant muslim extremest from taking over. If he goes who will be in charge?

              Reply#5 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

              That is the problem... There is no solution. Look at what happened to egypt and libya after they removed their dictators. You end up with two options. Remove assad and let the country fall into the chaos that has been termed 'libya on steroids' by defense officials in the states... OR leave him in power and let him crush the majority muslim population the way he has been for decades... shabiha and all.. The problems with that are obvious. He will never be able to completely put down an uprising, especially now that total civil war has begun. The ranks of the rebels will replenish themselves indefinitely with young men who's reasons are infinite, and those who have lost all but the will to fight back. ( losing family, property, livlihood and freedom can make a rebel out of ANY one man or woman. )

                #5.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:31 AM EDT
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                I sincerely hope Hugo Chavez is paying close attention to this situation. He has won another six years as 'president' of Venezuela and has vowed to sink that country deeper into the mire of his socialist ideals. Unfortunately, he still believes he is on the right track, regardless of what has been happening to his dictatorial buddies across the Middle East.

                  Reply#6 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:27 AM EDT

                  His ( chavez ) biggest problem is that venezuela is one of the richest areas globally in rare earth, and now that china is not going to be the only one producing and refining it, one has to wonder how long it will take before the worlds elite begin praying on that country for what lies beneath...

                    #6.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:32 AM EDT

                    Mathuin, what country do you live in? You said:

                    "He has won another six years as 'president' of Venezuela and has vowed to sink that country deeper into the mire of his socialist ideals."

                    Do you know who is the biggest recipient of social welfare in the history of the World? Our "Free Market, Capitalist" banks. Remember the bailouts? The American taxpayers have bailed out the banks to the tune of tens of trillions of dollars. When anyone gets on their high horse and calls another country socialist without including the U.S. in the same sentence, it just shows they don't know what they are talking about!

                      #6.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:00 PM EDT
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                      You can bet your sweet ass that the US military is manning those fighter planes in Turkey. The US government wants to maintain a constant state of war in the middle east. Turkey and Syrians rebel's arms and planes are made by the US, what the difference??? IS it ok to buy weapons from one country and not the other.

                      Yesterday we had military police ( Immigration officers) killing children for throwing rocks at them, what next small nuclear weapons for touching the fence between the countries. The US governments love of war and killing citizens of third world countries is at an all time high. Why shouldn't the Mexican citizens use guns to shoot at the US military police, kind of tit for tat. This military police officer probably had photos take of him killing the children in Mexico to he could show is children what a brave man he is.

                        Reply#7 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                        Gary,

                        You might want to read that article and try comprehending the facts this time.

                        Yesterday we had military police ( Immigration officers) killing children for throwing rocks at them, what next small nuclear weapons for touching the fence between the countries

                        The person shot by Border Patrol officer (part of DHS - not military) actually were delivering bags of illegal drugs. Once you understand what you have read, then this fallacy you wrote might be re-edited by you perhaps? Or will you still be a "legend in your own mind" believing what you want to believe, rather than facts?

                        Jack

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                        #7.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:41 AM EDT

                        Have to agree with Jack on this one Gary. Time to get hooked on phonics and get some comprehension skills working for you

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                        #7.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:57 AM EDT
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                        mathuin That's not for you or any other country to worry about , Venezuela voted for him , I do not see where that will be the concern of the US and NATO or any body , you see , that's the problem here , we want to install Evey government in the world to our liking , that's just plain wrong , and that's why countries don't like us .leave these people along , and back to Turkey , poor old Turkey , their thugs are losing in Syria , so they were ordered and paid hefty sums of money by the Saudis and Qataris to attack Syria , never mind all the killings of Christians in that country and destroying every thing in site , neither the Dem's nor the Rep's get it , they both are so Fing confused , they want to help the Alqaida and Muslims brother hood thugs in Syria and Libya , and they to kill them every where else , STRANGE HOW THESE DUMB POLITICIANS OPERATE ????

                          Reply#8 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:52 AM EDT
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                          Free guns for everyone, Bullets- $10.00 each. Now, that's the American way!

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                          Reply#9 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:58 AM EDT

                          Get the UN to put a No Fly zone over most of Syria so the dictator's pilots cannot bomb his own people from is fighting from the air, just like the UN did over Saddam Hussein's Iraq before the Iraq War protecting the Kurds in the north and the cities in the south that hated him and revolted often. Let them fly their planes all day over Damascus but if they go outside, blow them out of the air. Then if you want a reason for the world to get involved in an all out battle against the dictator, pull back the no fly zone in a month or two and then when he sends his pilots out and slaughters his people like Hussain would have done if we had pulled our zone back in Iraq, the whole world will come to the rescue and a NATO force will remove him and his military in a week or less, like Yugoslavia/Bosnian wars. If this can be done by UN, it will be the best way to justify an all out international team battle against them kind of like taking Kahafi in Libya but maybe with more force a lot quicker.

                            Reply#10 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

                            Big, after Assad falls who will then take power, its the "they" rebels that bother me, nobody seems to be able to pin point who is in charge of the resistance. Is the resistance a loose affiliation of factions, will Al Qaida with Iranian support ultimately win? Also do not forget that Syria shares a border with Israel. The Middle east is a very dangerous and volital place. Covert support is one thing but active and visible American support is another. We need to stay out of it unless Turkey requests assistance, then we must honor our Nato commitment.

                              #10.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

                              Just had a memory of how I thought years ago Bush could have dealt with Iraq since there was not any WMDs and he knew he had no strong evidence, but I agree we did need to do something about Hussein so right about at the start of it or just before I was BSing with friends and said if we want more support here and abroad to invade Iraq just pull back the no fly zone because I believed and friends I told this to agreed he would cut his own throat by starting a Yugo/Serbia/Bosnian type massacre on Kurds and the southern Iraqis, then everyone would join in to take him down, not just Britain Poland Spain. Plus we would have had an international team cleaning up/policing them to democracy instead of just us for 8 years costing 4000 dead U.S. soldiers plus tens of thousands wounded. We need to start learning quicker from our history and mistakes, and build better alliances quickly instead of us expending all our resources on international problems. I agree if Turkey can deal with them and has to, we should support them as much as any ally, if Syria threatens Israel at the same time then you can believe they will have cut their own throats with more than us going after them, like all NATO. I guess then the big concern would be if Iran/Iraq/Jordan/Egypt and any other major Arab countries consider this a holy war and join Syria ending up in almost another Crusades looking type sitatuation some would call it.

                                #10.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:58 AM EDT
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                                Pete1215....you have hit the nail on the head....it is the little things that suddenly turn huge....just like WW1...or unemployment and unrest like WW2....I cannot see Turkey continuing to go easy on this problem if Syria continues to cross their border. It is funny....37 comments on something like this that could turn so bad...and dozens of comments on stupid things like Honey Boo Boo...we would have to honor our NATO commitment.

                                  Reply#11 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:44 AM EDT

                                  Syria land is occupied by Turkey-Sanjak of Alexandretta! Turkey uses a dam to block water into Syria. It also aids and supplies rebel thugs arms that cross over into Syria to murder innocent human beings-often beheaded ! Turkey has also invaded Syria's air space ! So Syria has MORE than a right to defend herself ! And what is the nato commitment-to murder more Christian babies like they did in Serbia ?

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                                  #11.1 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:54 PM EDT
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                                  Taking Aleppo A.B. is a very important step to rebel victory. GOOD JOB!

                                    Reply#12 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

                                    If you like alQaida and Christians beheaded it is ? Do you remeber 9-11 ! You better learn to speak Arabic !Would you want your family to live under these rebel thugs ? Shame on you !

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                                    #12.1 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:47 PM EDT
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                                    Once again NBC's anti-Israel, anti-Semitic hate spews out, despite this supposed article on the Syrian civil war. For your information the Golan is part of Israel, not Israeli occupied. Syria used the Golan to launch attacks against Israel for decades before Israel defeated them in the 1967 war. In wars borders change, as they have throughout history, all over the world. If you want to start playing those semantic games, then call Jordan, Arab-occupied Israel. Or call Pakistan, Moslem-occupied India. Shame on you for your bigotry.

                                      Reply#13 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

                                      dougjmiller is a paid zionist on the net to promote their propaganda. Israel spends 46 million a year on this. Israel is our biggest enemy and recieves almost 20 billion a year from us. Under international law, land cannot be gained through war. Israel attacked Eygpt and Jordan in 1967 and called it a pre-emptive attack. They have attacked every country on it's boarders and stolen land. Stop these beast and end these stupid wars.

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                                      #13.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

                                      parkerjoe

                                      Israel is the only nation that has been repeatedly attacked, won, negotiated with those they have defeated and have given back more land than they own (Sinai and Gaza). All they have wanted was peace. They remain a sliver among Arab nations and have helped other Arab nations economically. Their actions are unprecedentedly good. Given the level of attacks they have sustained, they have made surprisingly few mistakes, but they have made some. Their children have been attacked on school buses, cafes and universities.

                                      I have noticed that whenever someone supports Israel, you call them a paid Zionist or something to that effect. I think you are an unpaid (certainly no one would pay for your twisted thoughts) terrorist wanna be who sits at his computer in some run down neighborhood wishing he/she could change the world when you can't even get yourself out of your pajamas. Please recognize you have a problem and seek help. If you are in the US there is plenty available. If you are on the Afghan/Pakistan border, look out for drones.

                                        #13.2 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                                        The Golan has always belonged to Syria ! Syria only reacted after being attacked time & time again by Israel on the Golan. If you read Rabin's book you will see that only when Syria would respond it was made out to be the bad guy ! After Israel attacked and invaded Syria in 1967 -Israel ethnic cleansed 100's of Syrian vilages ! They did to the Syrians as did the Turks to the Armenians back in 1915 ! Funny that Israel does not recognize the Armenian Genocide by the turks?? Only 2 million butchered !

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                                        #13.3 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:38 PM EDT
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                                        So, when we want international help and declare that "peeps" are with us or against us", we want everyone to fall in line and form a coalition. But Turkey, a member of NATO, wants help we say oh well, we will think about it. Not so sure we can stay out of it all togather. The "president of Syria needs to step down and defuse this entire situation. Al Qeade would love for this region to fall into anarchy.

                                          Reply#14 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

                                          why should the syrian president step down to defuse the terrorist situation? Terrorists should be killed and never win.

                                            #14.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

                                            The president of Syria should step down because it is obvious that he does NOT have the support of the people of Syria, since so many are willing to die for their freedom.

                                            The US should support his overthrow, but not with American troops. We have had enough occupations to last us for a long while.

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                                            #14.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

                                            Mr. Assad is the villien and agressor and just plain evil.

                                            The capture of Allepo of a great victvory for the Rebels.

                                              #14.3 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:02 PM EDT
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                                              i cant believe that all presidents of other countries are dictators for a lot of american people. Turkey is openly providing arms, training, terrorists, also is providing its land as a safe heaven for terrorists. Syria has all the rights to attack terrorists bases outside its borders. Turkey did the same in Iraq against kurds, USA in Pakistan etc etc. The only problem Syria does not have the power to do so. Turkey is also actively bombing syria. I hope syria win the war against terrorists.

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                                              Reply#16 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

                                              I guess I'm a little confused...

                                              The official SANA news agency also reported fighting nationwide and said dozens of rebels, which it called "mercenary terrorists," had been killed.

                                              What is Assad calling the Iranians fighting for him?

                                                Reply#17 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

                                                Heroes just like the men are fighting to kill all these Alqaida's and Muslims brother hood in the world . that's what I call them after seeing what these monsters doing in Syria , killing the Christians , raping and murdering and selling body parts of civilians to the rest of the world , what would call these people Military Man , Assad fighting the same thugs that attacked here on 9/11 and in Libya and Afghanistan , what you call them thugs ???????

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                                                #17.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:20 PM EDT
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                                                Critical times hard to deal, with will be here.

                                                  Reply#18 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

                                                  Assad, the madman,knows the end of him is inevitable, so...........like a typical coward, he will make sure he'll take as many with him as he can, and the conflicts are spilling all over the borders

                                                    Reply#19 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

                                                    I have no issue AT ALL when it comes to muslims killing other muslims all over the middle east.

                                                    So be it.

                                                      Reply#20 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:27 PM EDT

                                                      Not all of the children are brainwashed yet. I feel bad for them.

                                                        #20.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:10 PM EDT
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                                                        Body counts are speeding up.

                                                          Reply#21 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                                                          Assad is a sociopath. .

                                                            Reply#22 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:15 PM EDT
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