Clinton reaffirms support for Libya, emerging democracies

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U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton delivers a keynote address on "U.S. Strategic Engagement with North Africa in an Era of Change" at the Center for Strategic & International Studies in Washington on Friday.

A month after the terrorist attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reaffirmed the United States' support for the new governments emerging from the Arab Spring.

Speaking at the Center for Strategic and International Studies on Friday, Clinton said the attack in Benghazi and the burning of the American School in Tunis have led some to question the promise and hope of the Arab Spring. She said she has always been clear-eyed about the challenges that were ahead.  

"Let me start by stating the obvious: Nobody should have ever thought this would be an easy road. I certainly didn't," Clinton said. 

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She went on to say that the United States "will not pull back our support for emerging democracies when the going gets rough. That would be a costly strategic mistake that would, I believe, undermine both our interests and our values."   


Clinton described what occurred on Sept. 11 in Benghazi as a “terrorist attack” and said she appointed a review board to examine the security procedures in Benghazi. The U.S. government is "sparing no effort" to track down the terrorists responsible for the attack, Clinton said.

The terrorists who attacked the mission do not represent the Libyan people, she added, citing the protests against the militias there.

"The United States will not retreat," Clinton said. "We will keep leading and we will stay engaged in the Maghreb and everywhere in the world, including in those hard places where America’s interests and values are at stake."

The United States is "stepping up" its counterterrorism efforts in northern Mali, Clinton said, where al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb is trying to expand its reach. 

"For some time, al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb and other terrorist groups have launched attacks and kidnappings from northern Mali into neighboring countries. Now, with the chaos and ethnic conflict there allowing these groups to carve out a larger safe haven, they are seeking to extend their reach and their networks in multiple directions," she said.

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#1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

It will take 4 more years to de-install Obama (If he is willing to abdicate even then), and decades after that to repair the damage that has been done to stability in the middle east during the last 2 years...when International Historians document this period of American History, I hope they understand that these policies were opposed by many

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#1.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:16 PM EDT
Comment author avatarvermontguyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

lol, the old "obama is a dictator" nonsense from the usual suspects. :)

and the US destabilized the middle east by....what? Refusing to draft every man, woman, and child in the country to occupy the entire region and keep ruthless dictators in power? is that your "plan"? or dazzle us with your brilliance on what YOU would have done. :)

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#1.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:49 PM EDT
Comment author avatarguy-2789881Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Mr Phea. Iraq now allows Iran to overfly their country to resupply the Syrians and Hezbollah. Yup, the Iraq war really helped to stabilize the Middle East.

Right wing radicals say they love democracy unless their pick loses. Then democracy is bad.

  • 20 votes
#1.3 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:14 PM EDT

".....Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reaffirmed the United States' support for the new governments emerging from the Arab Spring."

Yep, those Muslim Brotherhood Sharia law "democracies" are really something to be proud of. Notice the article about the real Egyptians taking to the street AGAINST their new MB Sharia Law "President".

Another "item" to add to Mrs. Clinton resume when she bids for 2016 (includes "I am a Modern Day Progressive", Whitewater, throwing a Bollywood campaign supporter under the bus, and failure to provide adequate support to our embassies/consulates). However, she has "giving American taxpayer money away" down pat.

  • 60 votes
#1.4 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:20 PM EDT
Comment author avatarguy-2789881Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Mr. Phea like Romney want to sent their kids to fight in Iran. No wait...that would be our kids and grandkids because the Romney family does not believe in serving in the military. They will protest to support war but wont enlist or be drafted for that matter.

  • 12 votes
#1.5 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

Ido...Another believer in democracy as long as you vote for his choice.

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:25 PM EDT

Nitpick all you want but Democrats and Republicans have the same basic foreign policy; just add more fuel to the flames. How much and when is the only difference.

Very depressing if you ask me.

  • 15 votes
#1.7 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:32 PM EDT

What? Did I read that correctly? Hillary states the attacks in Benghazi were terrorist attacks!!! Quick, someone needs to inform Joe and Barrack and the rest of his White House staff. Hmmm, seems Hillary is not marching lockstep with Obama, interesting. Then again, isn't it wonderful to hear her promise all that 'help and security' AFTER the fact?

Wonder how many dollars she's going to give away this time?

  • 62 votes
#1.8 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:48 PM EDT

Guy, you do realize that Obama is the one who got dissed by the Iraqi's don't you? You do realize that Obama is the one who turned victory into defeat in Iraq, don't you?

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#1.9 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:22 AM EDT

Mygirl...I was sorry to hear how many hundreds of millions of dollars were cut from the budget to protect our embassies from just such attacks by the GOP Congress. Hindsight sight is 20/20.

  • 6 votes
#1.10 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:24 AM EDT

The budget reduction was a co-op bipartisan deal which doesn't excuse not providing security when it was directly requested.

The consulate in Barbados had a marine contingent on 9/11. It wasn't due to a budget but due to bad management and wanting to keep a Kumbia presence there!

  • 27 votes
#1.11 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:32 AM EDT
Comment author avatarguy-2789881Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Mygirl. Dont you realize we never should have been chasing nonexistent WMD in Iraq in the first place. We destroyed Irans only enemy in the neighborhood that was powerful enough to intimidate them. It cost tens of thousands of Americans killed and wounded and TRILLIONS of dollars borrowed from China. What did we accomplish there and how many more killed would satisfy you. When are we going to learn that we cant build democratic countries. They are built from within.

  • 13 votes
#1.12 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:43 AM EDT

Hundreds of millions were cut from what the president requested.

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#1.13 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:48 AM EDT

guy: I'm gratified that you can take up the democrats talking points, even if they were false and misleading.

The democrats outnumbered the republicans in voting for the cuts, but hey, don't let that little fact get in the way of parroting talking points.

Now, if you watched the hearing, you might have caught the fact that the security requests were denied many times but, interestingly enough, the hazardous duty pay was raised. So, money enough to pay extra hazardous duty, but not enough money to bring a few more bodies into the mix? Then, money enough to demonstrate electric car plug ins using Volts in Vienna, but not enough money to defend lives? Priorities seem a mite skewed. The democrats are attempting damage control, but their arsenal is, shall we say...pathetic? You can watch the hearings on CSpan archives, it may help clear up lots of your 'misconceptions.'

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#1.14 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:48 AM EDT

Guy: Just read your little diatribe on Iraq, and it is amazing how little you know and how well you have memorized your talking points, yet again. I won't bother to point out the flaws in your statement, waste of time. Bush lied, people died is the mantra and you will refuse to listen to anything beyond that. As to the destruction of Iran's enemy, perhaps you might want to consider how many died as a result of that little conflict and then perhaps you should look at Saddam and his history. Then, examine the Clinton years and the events unfolding then and...go back even further and examine the use of biological agents on the Kurds, and then fast forward to today and Panetta and Jordan and the reasons for troops suddenly heading there. WMD's? Syria? Hmm, and where did Saddam send those biological weapons?

  • 27 votes
#1.15 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:54 AM EDT
Comment author avatarOutziderExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@mygirl1

Are you believing the bull@!$%# you are spouting? For a minute you made a little sense, but when you threw all that Wikipedia crap in the middle..you blew it! Actually Bush lied about WMD's and threw the whole legitimate case out the frickin window in front the whole world. He's lucky he doesn't face a war crimes tribunal and that the mess of a coalition or puppet government they tried to install failed miserably.

And you think the Muslim Brotherhood just all of sudden spring out of nowhere...Bush's gaffe cost us the upper hand in the Middle East (I know you will deny this as all neo con republicans do)But how can you not see the vacuum that was left there..and guess what "we wanted democracy there and that's what we got whether we like it or not"

Democracy means all the people (including the extremist) So get your head out the sand for a minute! Democracy means sacrifice- means people will die- till democracy really take hold!

Hell it took us 200 years and we still haven't got it figured out...and you expect people who lived a certain way for thousands of years to suddenly figure it out...you are the one who is delusional and that is in itself dangerous.

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#1.16 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:01 AM EDT
Comment author avatarjack from JaxExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Stronghorse Your statement of:

The consulate in Barbados had a marine contingent on 9/11

is a "tad bit off" location-wise". Perhaps you meant Benghazi or perhaps Tripoli? Barbados is in the Caribbean with lots of water with beaches with sand - oh yeah, good rum too! Whereas, Libya is in North Africa. Might want to check on Where's Waldo and I don't mean Waldo, FL! LOL

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#1.17 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:00 AM EDT

Nitpick all you want but Democrats and Republicans have the same basic foreign policy; just add more fuel to the flames. How much and when is the only difference.

Very depressing if you ask me.

Then DON'T vote for EITHER of these imbeciles.

Gary Johnson - write him in. 2012.

  • 5 votes
#1.18 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:12 AM EDT

Guy, too bad you missed the hearings...

In testimony Wednesday before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Charlene Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, was asked, “Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

Lamb responded, “No, sir.”

Where was Hillary when they BEGGED for more security???

SHAME SHAME SHAME! She KNEW!

  • 25 votes
#1.19 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:25 AM EDT

Hillary Clinton: "Americans are the cause of the violence in Mexico! It is their thurst for drugs!"

How are Mexicans pouring drugs into the US to poison American children the cause of Mexicans killing Mexicans?

  • 13 votes
#1.20 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:27 AM EDT

"She went on to say that the United States "will not pull back our support for emerging democracies when the going gets rough. That would be a costly strategic mistake that would, I believe, undermine both our interests and our values.""

I thought Bushes told like these on Iraq and Afghanistan.

Hillary is supposed to be more intelligent and a Jewish lobby dancer unlike Bushes, who were Sunni Saudi, oil companies and their lobbyists dancers.

Let her reply: where we are on these on Iraq and Afghanistan?

She can consult Netanyahus before giving replies.

  • 3 votes
#1.21 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:54 AM EDT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khamisiyah

Iraq DID have wmd's. The argument that Bush lied about them is bull@!$%#. They had them in '91 during the first gulf war. We were in country for a very short time when we completed the stated mission. Do you honestly believe that Khamisiyah was the only place they were housing these weapons?

Do I think we should be in Iraq, Afghanistan, et al? Hell no, we need to bring our troops home. But please, lose the @!$%#ing "they had no wmd's" talking points. They did.

  • 11 votes
#1.22 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:09 AM EDT

"Stabilizing the Middle East"... "Peace in the Middle East"... I get it, this would be a wonderful thing. However, it will never happen. This area of the world has been at war for over a thousand years, literally. It's time we simply get out and watch. Why are we there anyway? Promoting democracy, again a nice thought but a pipe dream, and not the real reason we are there. We want a certain level of control over the region, it's resources and whoever ends up in power.

We have more than enough problems right here in our own country, let's work on these issues with the same fervor. The President, whomever that turns out to be, should be meeting with American business leaders to create a plan of economic recovery, job creation and stabilizing our country. I get soooo angry everytime I see a tag or a sticker on a product that reads "Made in ANYWHERE BUT AMERICA". This has got to stop, we need to change ourselves from being a consumer nation and begin our path back to being the greatest supplier in the world for EVERYTHING.

Think about it people. Why is everyone kissing China's @#$, because they supply the world with products. Who picks up the phone when you call tech support for nearly anything? India. Why? Because American companies are outsourcing damn near everything. If you want to be angry about anything be angry about this.

  • 2 votes
#1.23 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:28 AM EDT

How about for once we try this instead... reaffirming support for AMERICA!!!

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#1.24 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:16 AM EDT

Guy... fewer than 5,000 american soldier died in Iraq. Still a lot of men and woman but not the over exagerated 10's of thousands you said. As for the lack of WMD issue. Bush based that belief on intelligence gather for President Clinton and those advisors told Bush they were there. Did Clinton set Bush up with lies about the WMD or was it simply he had inept agents in the field ? At any rate we all felt there where WMD in Iraq when we went in and WE ALL wanted to go in after the 9-11 attack. Do attempt to tell me otherwise..... As the war ground on we discoverd one of two things had happened. Either there never were WMD or they got moved quickly enough we could find them.

As for what is going on in other countries. the attack on the libyan embassy was well known in Libya for many months prior to 9-11 this year. It was in the papers, there were comunications intercepted and the threat was even broadcast on the radio but this administration chose to pay no attention to them. Obama is to well liked they think so no one will attack America now. Ya Right. The President has been lying about what they knew of this attack to cover his behind. He was too busy giving away phones for votes to make a call to help save those embassy workers lives.

In the debate Biden laughs at the thought of Iran being able to develope nuclear capabilities saying. Even if the get the enriched uranium " they don't have and Missle to launch it with" :) :). all I can think of is who the heck is he trying to fool with that stupid grin. The missle is the easiest and quickest thing to obtain stupid. I sure feel safe having this administration handle things don't ya'll.

  • 11 votes
#1.25 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

guy-2789881Mr. Phea like Romney want to sent their kids to fight in Iran. No wait...that would be our kids and grandkids because the Romney family does not believe in serving in the military. They will protest to support war but wont enlist or be drafted for that matter.

Before you make a comment on a particular religion and their beliefs the least you can do is actually know which religion does not fight in Wars. It's the Quakers, Mennonites, Amish, Seven-Day Adventist and two other Religions, not Mormon!

LDS Church leaders have discouraged conscientious objection in every conflict the US has been in. Thousands of Mormons have served and died for this country in military battles.

By being ignorant of the facts, you have just totally dishonored those men & women of the military regardless of their religion, who have fought for your right to make statements even though they are totally false.

Now, since Clinton also got a deferment like Romney did, are you now going to tell us that Southern Baptist and their families don't believe in serving their country!

Since we live in a world today that has a volunteer military, we will all be hard press to find any person that is running for President that served in the Military. Obama hasn't served either. The fact is they don't have to serve to be President, its not a prerequisite in our Constitution to run for President. Therefore it not only is an inaccurate statement by you, but it is also irrelevant statement.

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#1.26 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

The Free Press is the one that needs to step up and start REPORTING the Truth. They are the ones that turned Bill Clinton's preppy hoe into Secretary of State.

They are the ones that put a left wing Black Racist Communist Acitivist into the White House.

Obama and Hillary Clinton aren't qualified to be dog catchers much less President and Secretary of State.

Obama and Hillary are doing to the rest of us what they did to Ambassador Stevens. This is the most Corrupt and Criminal Administration in USA History.

Ambassador Stevens was MURDERED with DIRECT orders from the White House and the State Department.

Ambassador Stevens opposed The Muslim Brotherhood in Libya and kept them out of the Government. Obama and Hillary had "PROMISED" the Muslim Brotherhood that they could have Egypt and Libya. But there was a Big Problem, Ambassador Stevens and the Libyans who want a REAL Democracy in Libya.

Obama and Hillary took away Ambassador Stevens, Security and left him to die on what they knew would be a FATAL day, 911. They told Ambassador Stevens, "you don't do what we say then defend yourself".

Now, this so called key note Speech of Hillary Rot Hams Clinton is directed at the President of Libya and warning him to step aside and make room for the Muslim Brotherhood or the same thing will happen to him.

President of Libya Muhammad al-Zanati, told the Truth about the Terrorist attack from day one. Don't you think that Obama would have picked up the PHONE and called him as soon as he heard about the destruction of USA Consulant and the Deaths of Ambassador Stevens and Staff???

What would you have done if you were President or Secretary of State?? YOU would have picked up the Phone and demanded to know what happened to Ambassador Stevens and Staff. YOu would have mounted a Rescue/Recovery Team immediately and been on site in just a few hours.

It took over 12 days for Obama to get someone "official" into the Murder Scene.

This was a planned Assassination of Ambassador Stevens. From the "Video" that NO ONE every heard off much less watched, to the Lies and cover up, and more lies and cover up. Obama and Hillary even made a Video and distributed throughout the Muslim World to Apologize for a video that no one has seen.

But they have been caught in their LIES. Why? Cause YOU are too smart to fall for their obvious crap, lies, and coverup.

Now they are changing their Stories, claiming they were only repeating what they were told??? Yeah, by who? Who told you that Mr. President? The CIA, FBI, and the Military Intel claim they didn't. Where did that info come from???? It came FROM YOU MR. President.

Where did Al Qaeda get their INTEL to organize, plan, and execute a flawless attack on a "SECRET SAFE HOUSE at which Ambassador Stevens just happened to be there???"

Mr. President and Madam Secretary, you are guilty of MURDER.

  • 10 votes
#1.27 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:24 AM EDT

Yup, the Muslim Brotherhood is a democracy. Tell that to their female population I am sure they are enjoying all those freedoms bestowed upon them by those tolerant religious leaders.

  • 11 votes
#1.28 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

Lets see---RESPONSIBILITY====

OBAMA accepting ANY ---NOPE---passes the BUCK and LIES all the time !!

CLITOON ACCEPTING ANY---NOPE LIES and PASSES the BUCK all the time !!!

OBIDEN ACCEPTING ANY --NOPE--LIES and PASSES THE BUCK all the time !!

REID--AW HELL NO he NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL----

and the OBAMA NUTS want this for another 4---HELL NO they have got to go---

OBAM,Clitoon are ACCESSORIES before during and AFTER THE FACT to the MURDERS of OUR PEOPLE--and need to be CHARGED with this crime.

WE the PEOPLE also must STAND FIRM on NO MORE of our MONEY to the UN,AND ALL FOREIGN AID---CUT IT OFF---IT is TOTALLY STUPID to BORROW MONEY from CHINA and then ---do as OBAMA AND CLITOON DO ---GIVE IT AWAY ---in many cases to those who are HELL BENT on our DESTRUCTION!

  • 9 votes
#1.29 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

My Girl, the horse looks bored and tires of hearing your bribble too! Please! Enough! Your are completely wrong! P.S OMG=Obama Must GO!

  • 4 votes
#1.30 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

Guy Lotsanumbers -

I was sorry to hear how many hundreds of millions of dollars were cut from the budget to protect our embassies from just such attacks by the GOP Congress.

Vote tally, 147 Republicans yea, 149 Democrats yea. And it had to go through the Senate AND Obama had to sign it.

Nasty ol' GOP my a$$.

  • 6 votes
#1.31 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

The Clinton's need to move to Libya.....At least the mooslime bro. hood will make Hilbillary cover that ugly mug.

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#1.32 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

Vote tally, 147 Republicans yea, 149 Democrats yea. And it had to go through the Senate AND Obama had to sign it.

With that fact, it kind of makes you wonder why the republicans decided to make it a point even larger than the embassy deaths and start pointing fingers and placing blame for the embassy attacks when really, they were both equally at fault for the lack of security not only there but at hundreds of other embassies around the world. Maybe their time would have been more constructive had they made it a humanitarian effort to use the attacks as a catalyst to encourage both sides to start working together and start strengthening our foreign securities instead of making it a political point when in fact, both the democrat and republican senate/congress dropped the ball.

    #1.33 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

    when will we learn! i have a dog that i got when he was 6 weeks old i love this dog. hes great with the kids and hes is a huge protector of the house. hes never bitten anyone. now if this dog should happen to bite someone he would be punished if he bites someone a second time i would have no choice but to put him down. its time to say enough is enough no more aid to these countries that wont control their dogs!

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    #1.34 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

    Hillary said the United States "will not pull back our support for emerging democracies when the going gets rough."

    So just how rough does it have to get Hillary? Syrian people are being killed by the thousands, and Obama campaigns and golfs. Pathetic fail.

    • 2 votes
    #1.35 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

    Stare at Hillary's picture then say "Look...I found a booger!"

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    #1.36 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

    GUY, you really are an idiot. If we can staff a full detachment for the french ambassador, (cuz we all know how crazy the terrorist threat is in france), we can certainly afford the same in libya, or say any other country who has proven that as a whole, they hate Americans, I suspect almost as much as you do.

    • 2 votes
    #1.37 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:21 PM EDT

    lee you should be nice to hillary. i think she is the only person in this administration who has some idea of what the hell their doing. dont forget who she has to take orders from. the same guy who threw her under the bus and lied about her in the last election if you dont remember his last name is obama. of course hes hard to forget. wish i could maybe the nightmares would go away!

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    #1.38 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

    *******TOO BAD ALL THE DAMAGE DONE BY PRESIDENT OBAMA CANNOT BE REPAIRED******

    It has been the Longtime Strategic Goal of the Chinese and Russian Federation to get the US and US Allies out of their Backyards (Resources). The Chinese and Russian Federation have been using the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran as their "Proxy Fighter". The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran has been using the Fundamentalist Islamic Holy Warriors of Islam to defeat the US And US Allies Worldwide as their "Proxy Fighters.

    The Chinese, Russian Federation, and the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran are NOT going to let the US and US Allies do a "DO OVER"; as they have been building up their 21st Century Militarises to protect all their recent Gains from the US And US Allies Losses Worldwide.

    The Chinese have already stated that their Military will fight on the side of their Ally, the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran.

    The Russian Federation has already stated that the previously negotiated "Reset" (peace) with the US will not continue.

    US And US Allies Losses due to President Obama's Policies:

    The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran increases their Activities against the US And US Allies Worldwide, as fully supported by their Allies, the Chinese and Russian Federation. Especially, the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, training, arming, funding the Holy Warriors of Islam to Overthrow the US and US Allies Worldwide at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, Syria, and Northwestern Iran. As well as, the purchases using the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran of 21st Century Weapons Systems from the Chinese and Russian Federation to hold their Gains, control their Strategic Territorial Waters of the Strait of Hormuz (they learned from their mistakes during the Iran Iraq Wars, everyone else forgot). The Russian Federation advances the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Nuclear Program by processing the Uranium Ore (Rocks) into the metallic form of Uranium. The Islamic Shia Republic of Iran starts to dig themselves under the mountains, similar to US NORAD or the USSR Ural Mountain Complex, to prevent any US or US Allies attacks. The start of the Technological Trade Agreement between Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran (Missile Technology) and North Korea (Nuclear Weapons Technology) advancing their Nuclear, Missile, and Weapons Systems Programs by Decades.

    Loss of Strategic Location of Iraq: US Kicked Out of Iraq by Islamic Shia Government of Iraq, as pressured by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran. The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran can now concentrate on US Ally Afghanistan, US Ally Egypt, US Ally Libya. US Loss of Iraqis Oil that could have paid for US And US Allies Liberation of Iraq with Decades to Centuries of Iraqis Oil. US Allies Loss of Iraqis Oil makes Libyan Oil of Strategic Importance (their Nations Survival).

    The President's Own Executive Intelligence Agency, the US Ally Saudi Arabia, US Ally Israel, and Government of Iraq were telling President Obama about the Increasing Strategic Sphere of Influence of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, President Obama ignored them. US Ally Saudi Arabia pleads with President Obama to do something about the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran before it is too late, President Obama ignores them, the US Ally Saudi Arabia are so pissed they state, "President Obama gave Iraq to Iran as a Gift on a Golden Platter".

    US Ally Saudi Arabia now has enemies to the North, South, West and East, instead of just to the East.

    This Iraqis Oil was of Strategic Importance to the current US And US Allies Standard of Living, as since before the First Gulf War many Nations were Oil Laundrying Iraqis Oil, as buying Iraqis Oil, claiming Iraqis Oil as their own, then selling to the US and US Allies for huge profits, like Mexico, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc.. The US depleted most of the US Oil during the 1900s "Black Gold Oil Rushes", and has some high sulfur content oil left that results in Acid Rain (sulfuric acid) like used during the "1970s Oil Crisis". Oil based Plastics required for US and US Ally High Tech Standard of Living (even basic Electrical Wire Insulation).

    Loss of Strategic Location of Egypt: As trained by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, to Overthrow US Allies Established Governmentsthe Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood made deals with the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, as Strategic Access to the Suez Canal, closer logistics to support the Fundamentalist Islamic Army of Islam Gaza, the Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Warlords. Closer Locations to attack US Ally Israel. Mediterranean Ports. Egypt is the Strategic Location to launch or stage attacks against US Ally Libya. The Egyptian "mock voting" was identical to the voting for the Armed Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Warlords, at gunpoint, with the unarmed civilian sheep of Palestine having to vote Hamas or die, after the Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Warlords by Armed Force chased the Palestinian Authority out of Palestine to the West Bank. Before the start of the "Egyptian Revolution" the President of Egypt, the President's Own Executive Intelligence Agency, the US Ally Saudi Arabia, US Ally Israel, were telling President Obama about the increased Islamic Jihadist Activities, President Obama ignored them, and started to say, "Dictator Killing His Own People" (Fundamentalist Islamic Holy Warriors of Islam as trained by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds). Install another Islamic Nation per Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (Sharia) Laws.

    Loss of the Strategic Location of Libya: Libya is the Strategic Location for the staging and launching of attacks against the other African Nations. Mediterranean Ports to attack the US European Allies aka Crusaders. Just like the British (and US General Patton) defeating the Germans during WWII at "North Africa", the Libyan Oil is of Strategic Importance to European Nations (except Germany that gets theirs from the Russian Federation, and electricity from the French). President Obama supported the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists of Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group were the Islamic Jihadist Foreign Fighters killing US Military at Iraq. Before the start of the "Libyan Civil War" the President of Libya, the President's Own Executive Intelligence Agency the CIA, the British Intelligence Agency, were telling President Obama about the increased Islamic Jihadist Activities, President Obama ignored them, and started to say, "Dictator Killing His Own People" (Fundamentalist Islamic Holy Warriors of Islam as trained by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, listed above).

    During and after the "Libyan Civil War" the Islamic Jihadists released President Obama's Guantanamo Islamic Jihadists transferred to President Gaddaffi's Prisons; obtained 20,000 portable shoulder launched anti aircraft SA-7 missiles according to Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada to shoot down US Civilian Airlines. Install another Islamic Nation per Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (Sharia) Laws.

    The Fundamentalist Islamic Libyan Islamic Fighting Group becomes the Government of Libya.

    Loss of Strategic Locations at Pakistan: The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran pressures the Government of Pakistan to no longer allow US nor US Ally Bases at Pakistan, and limits to the Logistics use of Pakistan to Landlocked UN Mission Afghanistan. US and US Allies kicked out of Pakistan. With the successes of the the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, trained, armed, funded Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists Overthrowing other US Allies Established Governments the US Ally Government of Pakistan has no choice.

    Loss of Strategic Locations at Afghanistan: The The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran pressures the Government of US Ally Afghanistan for the High Tech Mineral Wealth of Afghanistan for the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Ally, the Chinese, China Metalurgical Group, to obtain the High Tech Mineral Wealth of Afghanistan. These High Tech Minerals are necessary for the current US and US Allies High Tech Standard of Living as well as the Future US and US Allies Alternative Energy. The Chinese place restrictions on the shipments of High Tech Minerals to the US and US Allies, so that all US and US Allies High Tech must be Made In China. The previous locations are also lost to the Chinese, like the TAPI pipeline; as well as non High Tech Mineral Wealth like Coal, Natural Gas, Oil, various precious metals, various precious and semi precious gems and jewels, etc..

    President Obama negotiated with President Karzai for the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces to remain at Afghanistan for Decades after the US Military Conventional Warfare Forces abandon US Ally Afghanistan again, 2014. This means that the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces will no longer have the necessary support of the US Military Conventional Warfare Forces. These US Military Conventional Warfare Forces are Ordered by President Obama as Commander In Chief to be Reduction In Forces as part of the 90,000 US Military Personnel to be thrown on Unemployment along with the layoffs of 108,000 US Civilians employed by the US Military. President Obama's April 2009 and August 2009 Policies, "US Military will not be used to secure US Borders". It is highly unlikely that these RIF'ed and future RIF'ed will return to the US Military after being dumped on Unemployment even in the event of a National Emergency (unless the US is invaded); this will require any President to have to instate a Selective Service or Mandatory Compulsory Service as previously Candidate Obama during the Presidential Debates with McPain promised (verbal contract) to Force the 92% of US Citizens that have Never Served in the US Military to "Do Their Fair Share", as "US Military Service is a Civic Duty" and "US Citizenship is not an Entitlement"; to stop the continous deployments of the 1% of US Citizens of the US Military.

    Loss of the Strategic Locations of South and Central Americas: The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran basing their ICBMs and IRBMs at South and Central Americas after the hardened missiles silos against nuclear attack are built. Their support of the "Drug Lords" of these Regions and the use of Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists as trained by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, mostly the Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Foreign Fighters and Fundamentalist Islamic Hezbollah. The Mexican Government attempts to intercept these container shipments of weapons, ammunition, etc. however this is not 100% successful. Many believe that the Islamic Jihadists will attempt to use the successful business of the Drug Lords Smuggling, Human Trafficking, Document Forgery (Identification Theft), and Safe Houses operated by Illegal Aliens to smuggle chemical, biological, nuclear weapon(s) into the US to attack US "Soft Targets".

    Don't blame us (my US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces, nor myself) we have been keeping all of the above from happening before President Obama's Policies. So now it is someone else's turn to attempt to fix the mess listed above or die trying and much more that I have not listed (Classified) and not given the Unclassified Intelligence for, like blabber mouth Senator Lieberman telling the International News Media about President Obama's Secret Wars paid for by President Obama's not previously Budgeted for Discretionary Spending (why Senator Lieberman was so pissed).

    • 2 votes
    #1.39 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

    To the little guys who claimed I lied in my posts....the only liars currently in operation are the occupants of the White House. I can't help ignorance, especially when it is willful and deliberate. Now, go educate yourselves, quit drinking the Obama kool-aid and quit believing his lies, he's only covering his ass and the only ones naive enough to believe his nonsense are the willfully and deliberately ignorant.

    note to NJrep: The avatar pic is a longhorn steer, as in cattle...cows for the uninformed, it is NOT A HORSE. Tsk. I don't know about the 'dribble' but you do have one thing correct...Obama must go.

    • 2 votes
    #1.40 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:59 PM EDT

    guy-2789881

    Bull Crap, there wasn't anything wiped out of the budget by Republicans. WE HAVEN"T had a budget in almost 4 Years! What Democrat Dream Planet have you guys been on?

      #1.41 - Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:46 PM EDT
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      hillbillary........obama's biggest mistake

      • 14 votes
      Reply#2 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

      It seems the current administration of BO, Crazy Joe & Hillary all have OCD (obsessive compulsion disorder) - in statements said "a bump in the road" relating to Libya "protests", the death of an Ambassador + 3 Americans and now this"

      "Let me start by stating the obvious: Nobody should have ever thought this would be an easy road. I certainly didn't," Clinton said

      Notice the analogy of "road" being used again. Either that or anal retentiveness is quite apparent! One and Done - let's get a Change, so all Americans can have some real Hope again. Not just a perverted political slogan of the last 4 years.

      • 24 votes
      #2.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:48 AM EDT

      One of Obama's first mistakes. There are so many!!!

      • 22 votes
      #2.2 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:30 AM EDT

      I have to agree.

      Obama took for pleasing Jewish lobby!

      Watch her dances starting in 2014 for 2016 Presidential election!

      • 6 votes
      #2.3 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:58 AM EDT

      OBAMA and CLITOON =AMERICAS biggest mistake!

      • 2 votes
      #2.4 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

      Obama's entire administration choices from tax cheat Geithner, to the czars he created have been a mistake- which is worse, Biden or Hillary? Tough call. Scary thing is, it was a coin toss as to the position of both, can you imagine Biden as Secretary of State?!

      • 2 votes
      #2.5 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

      Imagine kissing that old bag!

        #2.6 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:19 PM EDT

        Actually, I don't think Obama has made any mistakes, I think he has an agenda and is following through on it. The movie '2016' has an interesting conclusion asking what will Obama do if re-elected. Following the theory posited in the movie and the book, it would seem that Obama's agenda is to create a Caliphate (please, prove otherwise and no, 'droning' a few terrorists isn't going against that agenda) along with bringing America down to size, the anti-colonialist narrative is too strong to ignore as is Obama's pursuing a growing welfare state.

        His appointees are either Bush reruns or else radical buddies whom he has instated in the WH. Look at Jarrett, she is a dyed-in-the-wool leftist, one of those limosine liberals, part of the 'academic' elitists whose goal is to create democratic socialism over here. Interesting how those folks are going to transform America into their versions of collectivist utopia, with them being in charge, of course.

        • 1 vote
        #2.7 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:24 PM EDT
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        The only reason we give a monkey's A$$ about that part of the Arab world is oil. We need to get off the oil standard and let them kill each other off.........

        • 10 votes
        Reply#3 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

        Seven2Seven, I agree with you, I voted for Ron Paul in the primary because that is what he believes. Let's stay out of other countries business and just take care of our own.

        • 4 votes
        #3.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:52 AM EDT

        The international economy is a highly-integrated system where even small changes in one area can have massive - mostly unforseen - consequences of the operation of the system as a whole. It simply isn't possible for the primary stabilizing force like the United States to withdraw from the system and think that the system will function just as smoothly.

        For example, if we re-called the entire U.S. Navy how safe do you think commerical trade by sea would become? Probably NOT VERY mate!

        • 1 vote
        #3.2 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

        Hillary: "What border?" "What illegals?"

        • 1 vote
        #3.3 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

        Seven2Seven - We need to get off the oil standard and let them kill each other off.........

        Really Academic Idealistic nonsense.

        How about this you learn to replace all Oil Based Plastics with you precision hand carving everything from less durable wood (biodegradable)

        I really want to see you replace all the Electrical Wire Insulation made with Oil Based Plastics with compounds of Rubber (Vietnam).

        Read post#1.39.

        You need to learn how to live like a Fourth World Somalis (No Resources).

        • 1 vote
        #3.4 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:38 PM EDT
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        Hillary loves terrorists!

        • 14 votes
        Reply#4 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:05 PM EDT

        Ya know, it's too bad ol' Tom Jefferson's dead. I'm sure that he would have been the pick to run any of these middle east countries for many of these RWNJ's. He would give them DEMOCRACY AND SEPARATION OF MOSQUE AND STATE. sarc.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#5 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

        How naive of this president and administration, Hillary Clinton and NATO. The Islamist are using all of these " do gooders " to assist them in installing their radical governments all over the Middle East. Open your eyes! They can't take over these countries without US and NATO help...they're laughing about how easy this is.

        • 18 votes
        Reply#6 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:01 PM EDT

        KansasBob, your comment suddenly made me think of the recent list of crimes that Marsi, one of the recent radicals turned over by the UK to the US, is accused of. A similarity that makes you wonder.

        Accused crime: Inciting regime change of ME countries.

        Not that I am sticking up for him or attempting another bashing of you know who. But isn't this exactly what big 0 did with his speech in Cairo? Calling for either the leaders to change or pretty much face being changed?

        The speech that is claimed to be the hope of the people that the time was right and that he stood behind them? The Arab Spring cause of all the death and destruction and....wait for it.... regime change in the ME, big 0's, claim to fame an accomplished goal that radicals had been unable to do alone?

        • 3 votes
        #6.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:30 AM EDT

        Seven2Seven:

        If Obama had an energy policy based on reality instead of windmills and the Solyndra solar fantasy we could be the worlds dominant supplier of fossil fuels with all its obvious advantages. Instead he obstructs development of our oil and gas reserves and ignores meaningful infrastructure projects for transmission of those resources for both domestic consumption and export. Until we have energy independence here we will be forced to continue baby sitting Islamo-terrorist countries mired in mediaeval tribalism. We will continue to export our treasure and the lives of our brave youth to a part of he world that hates us but loves our money and naivite.

        Its time for vision and leadership. Romney will provide that. Obama hasn't and won't.

        • 9 votes
        #6.2 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:17 AM EDT

        The US may have good intentions of bringing democracy to the middle east, however, it was tried with japan in the 1850's and we ended up with a shogun attitude empire on 7 Dec 41. The point of democracy is you have to be capable of ruling yourself. So hats off to us as we have not done such a bang up job.

        The arabs in the middle east have always worked on the pecking order principle. The group who has the most swords (ancient) or guns is the leader. Less than 100 years ago the middle east was tribal group or religous areas, some bedouins, that defended their tribal or religous areas. the brits went in and cut the place up into "countries" (you might notice most borders are straight lines). What the brits did not realize is how tight the tribes and religous groups were and cut the two groups in half and made them one country. Iraq is a great example. 60% shiite 30% sunni and they have and will fight constantly. They do not have the same beliefs. the shiites and sunnis fight over amoungst other reasons, that if the caliph has got to be a direct decendent of moHAMed or not. the arabs understand power. Thats why if you look a lot of their military goosesteps. They loved Hitler. Small country, told the rest of the world off, for about 10 years, till WWII anyway. They also furthered some of Hitlers ideas. Ethnic cleansing. Not just talking Jews, the kurds that insane gassed in their villages. thats been going on a while.

        So let the destabilization start. After the nationalization of oil, of course, getting rid of the dictators came to the forefront. Course the only way to keep arabs in line area dictators. Too many groups, too little time. So the endgame started with carter stopping support for the nasty shah. Course now we got the eyetoldya and soon to be nuclear armed with russian support. Course you can sanction iran into what, running to russia and pakistan to figure out how to make a bomb? Or could russia just give iran a few old ones. Either way iran will have a nuke. Was saddam insane such a bad guy. In accordance with western standards yes, in accordance with arab standards no. We coulda done better supporting saddam. Right now you have the possibility of an iran/iraq alliance. opps thats already started. the people that took to the streets to overthrow mubarak and have democracy. well they have 15% of the vote now and the muslim brotherhood is in charge killing coptic christians. At least under mubarak the coptics were vaguely safe. Libya is the next in line to have islamikazis in charge. And the same will happen to syria. Russia will not be able to keep assad in power, and the islamikazis will take over. and dont forget about Israel being pressured into giving the gaza to the PLO. Its now run by HAMas. (never understood since the arabs are so much against ham, why, the worst they have has ham in the name.)

        The middle east is heading for a caliph running the entire region,probably from a nuclear iran. The only thing that will save us is that the arabs love to fight amoungst each other too much.

        the West is clueless about arabs. They think democracy is the answer to everything.

        • 4 votes
        #6.3 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

        Kansas Bob--why not? It worked so WELL for Carter, right? :{

          #6.4 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

          thomas-819915 - So hats off to us as we have not done such a bang up job.

          Don't EVEN attempt to shift or spread the blame. This is ALL on President Obama and his Idealist Academic Not Real World Policies.

          I have told all of you over and over and over again. ANYTIME YOU HEAR SOMEONE SAYING "DICTATOR KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE", Immediately go find out WHO THESE "HIS OWN PEOPLE" actually ARE. As it is common practice, not the exception, in Asymmetric Warfare to incite the people of a Nation to create a Civil War; it is even easier to incite the NON Citizens of a Nation to Violence to Overthrow that Nation's Established Government for perceived not actual injustices.

          You also have so much WRONG about the Shia and Sunnis.

          Shia is the Fundamentalist Islamic Interpretation of the Holy Koran (Quran) including as Law (Shia, aka Sharia), as there are no other Interpretations that would be Blasphemy and Heresy. Belief in the 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran (Quran) Calls to All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers; those Islamic Believers that do not participate are subject to "Dwell in that Firey Place".

          Sunnis is the Liberal Moderate Interpretation of the Holy Koran (Quran), with the Fiqh (Logic) as Law.

          To even use the Limiting Western Term of "Religion" pertaining to Islam is a failure to even know what the Islamic Belief actually is, especially for Fundamentalist Islamic Believers; as for Fundamentalist Islamic Believers, Islam is ALL, All Politics, All Religion, All Culture, All History, All Ways of Life, All Customs, All Laws, etc. that supercede the politics, religions, cultures, history, ways of life, customs, laws, etc. of all Nations according to Allah and his Prophet Mohammad. And that is one of the Primary Reasons why the Western Nations FAIL miserably when dealing with Fundamentalist Islamic Nations.

          The majority being Fundamentalist Islam due to Fundamentalist Islam using what works, as while the Sunnis is negotiating ("Empty Words") the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia shoots the Sunnis in the face; as "The Dead Do Not Complain".

          Your not having participated in the Iran Iraq Wars as part of the US Military Training Teams attached to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, is evident as you FAIL to realize that the Fundamentalist Islamic Kurdistanis were the Armed men, women, children Ally of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran. As the majority of Fundamentalist Islamic Kurdistanis lanugage is their version of Farsi, and their Fundamentalist Islamic Belief is Shia. The use of US Ally Iraq Chemical Weapons was used to end the very long Iran Iraq Wars, and as a result many Iranians and Iraqis were not killed off during the near WWI trench warfare of the Iran Iraq Wars, especially the human wave attacks by the Iranians against the US Ally Iraqis machineguns, mortars, artillery, etc..

          • 2 votes
          #6.5 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:10 PM EDT
          Reply

          Critical times hard to deal with, will be here.

            Reply#7 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:04 PM EDT

            It is not our fight, our government to build or support. We need to end our aid and involvement in the area. It is their lives to live and lose.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#8 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

            One may have favorites but when dictators are overthrown the "heavy lifters" get to call the tune. The Romney/Ryan and their cabal of Bush era neo-cons, as many before them, refuse to accept the tragedy perpetrated on the Iranian people when the US/Brits toppled a duly elected secular government headed by Mossadegh and installed the Shah back in the early '50's. The Brits were trashing the Iranian oil industry and along with the US trumped up charges of communism and this long ago action has come back to haunt us every since. Attempting to install our "favorites" from the ''Arab Spring" would be the very height of stupidity. Stating and supporting our democratic principles regarding speech/press/human rights should be undertaken but not under threat of a military action which never resolves any differences of opinion, especially as it relates to religious conflicts that bedevil even our own society.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#9 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:33 PM EDT

            I have told all of you over and over and over again. ANYTIME YOU HEAR SOMEONE SAYING "DICTATOR KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE", Immediately go find out WHO THESE "HIS OWN PEOPLE" actually ARE. As it is common practice, not the exception, in Asymmetric Warfare to incite the people of a Nation to create a Civil War; it is even easier to incite the NON Citizens of a Nation to Violence to Overthrow that Nation's Established Government for perceived not actual injustices.

            FEROBSON - Stating and supporting our democratic principles regarding speech/press/human rights should be undertaken but not under threat of a military action which never resolves any differences of opinion, especially as it relates to religious conflicts that bedevil even our own society.

            Sheer near Criminally Negligent Idealistic Academic Idealism. You are demanding is the installation of Fundamentalist Islamic Governments based on your lack of experience or knowledge.

            Really helps create US Allies (sarcasm) when you ignore their pleads for help, then start calling the US Allies Dictators. Or in the case of US Ally Afghanistan abandoning them once again to get massacred again by the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, just like they did to the Afghan Collaborators to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers, after the US abandoned them before, especially the 1980s Pro US Afghan Muhajeen of Operation Cyclone (that I also participated in) massacred by the 1990s Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban as fully supported by the USSR Backed Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran.

            • 2 votes
            #9.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:25 PM EDT
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            Hillary Clinton's political future is History. She will never try to run for another office. POTUS got one thing right. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

            • 11 votes
            Reply#10 - Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:37 PM EDT

            Can anyone inform The Pres. about this YouTube "Thousands of Salafis in Tunisia: Obama, we are all Osama"

            • 5 votes
            #10.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:40 AM EDT

            I bet Hillary still runs in 2016. It is said when asked for more security in Libya they removed some of the security they already had. This has nothing to do with any cuts. Hillary and Obama screwed up royally. Biden said we did not know. Obama should have known. Hillary should have told him... Now after the fact Hillary wants to fix things. And it amazes me people are still blaming Bush...or they are blaming Romney and Ryan for talking about their screw ups..or blaming anyone but themselves...Romney's friend Stevens was killed and he knew it was terrorist and the put him down for saying what Hillary and Obama should of said. Remember about 4 or 5 days after they were appoligizing for the video made that upset everyone and still blamed this for what happened in Libya...... Secretary of State Clinton is responsible for the security of our staff, consulates and embassies abroad. If the Independent’s report is correct, she has violated the most basic standard of duty. Both she and her boss, President Obama, must be held responsible.”
            Obama needs to go.

            • 7 votes
            #10.2 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:46 AM EDT

            Hilarious: Ok, guys funding is cut. What can we get rid of. Nerd1: Lets cut the marine guards in the consulates and embassys in Germany, or England, or even Sweden, Yeah, Sweden too cold there. Nah, lets cut the marines outa Libya, I mean what could happen.

            I was not there. Hilarious may not have known. But whoever did should get axed. Funding is going to be cut in lots of areas, or have you not noticed the new and improved 32 hour work weeks, or the drop in pay to stay in business we gotta work smarter routine. I took a $300 a month cut, takehome. We need some people that can make smart decisions.

            the ones in office now pull their brains out and play with them and unfortunately I dont see any great replacements. Thats how our democracy works now. We elect, they play with their brains, and we throw em out, then we elect, they play with their brains. This unicycle has got to stop somewhere as we are headed down the tubes and the septic system is now in sight.

            Put it out front. booosh shoulda supported saddam insane, and Ovomits support of Libya, Egypt, Israel giving up land to arabs, is not any better. Just costs us money we aint got.

            All hail China the new world superpower. Wait the US is the superpower, Not anymore we went the way of England. No manufacturing jobs, massive national debt, but we do have health care for all, well sort of. At least england and germany dont "tax" you.

            • 3 votes
            #10.3 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:01 AM EDT

            Zak-3798611 - Can anyone inform The Pres. about this YouTube "Thousands of Salafis in Tunisia: Obama, we are all Osama"

            Does not matter President Obama does NOT listen to anyone, especially his own "Experts". General McKiernan to accomplish the General McKiernan War Plan to Win Afghanistan, requests more US Military; President Obama demands General McKiernan's Letter of Resignation, and renames General McKiernan's War Plan to Win Afghanistan, the Obama War Plan to Win Afghanistan, without any US Military Training nor Experience President Obama does not realize that the General McKiernan War Plan to Win Afghanistan is useless without General McKiernan's Commander's Intent (not in the War Plan).

            President Obama does not listen to his appointed Registered Democrat General McChrystal about the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Involvement in the arming, training, funding of the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada, Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Foreign Fighters, etc. at Afghanistan; as this is against President Obama's Iran Policies (Appeasement), so President Obama gives his General McChrystal a Letter of Reprimand. General McChrystal asks President Obama for more US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces, as President Obama promised "anything you want" to win Afghanistan; President Obama sends 1/3rd of the US Military Conventional Warfare Forces, 30,000; not the 90,000 previously requested by General McKiernan. And then sends his thousands of overpaid too expensive US Civilians into a Combat Zone as the President Obama US Civilian Surge to Afghanistan, this breaks the already strained US Military Logistics Support of General McChrystal, US Military Units are diverted from Missions to guard these US Civilians, becoming static targets (sitting ducks) as guards.

            A armed CIA Operative attached to the US Embassy assisting in the locating of Osama Bin Laden is apprehended by the Pakistanis Local Police. Instead of stating that this CIA Operative is a US Embassy employee with Diplomatic Immunity, the President Obama Administration Officially Confirms that he is a CIA Operative. He is evacuated out of Pakistan thru US Embassy Diplomatic Channels.

            General McChyrstal (Commander Afghanistan, US Army Special Forces, Previous Commander SOC, and JSOCTF Iraq that located and captured President Hussein) as one of the previously tasked planners during President Bush of Operation Neptune Spear is insisting on a Special Reconnaissance Mission to Pakistan to confirm the location of Osama Bin Laden. As a Pakistanis US Intelligence Asset (Pakistanis Doctor) believes that he has located Osama Bin Laden, later this Pakistanis Doctor outed (Official Confirmation) by President Obama and currently in Pakistanis Prison for 33 years. Other US Military Leadership (Admiral McRaven, USN SEAL, JSOC), Secretary of Defense Gates, Director of the CIA and US Politicians (mostly the Democrats to support Registered Democrat General McChrystal) pressure President Obama to authorize the Special Reconnaissance Mission to Pakistan. President Obama deflects any possible Mission Failure Blame by delegating this to the Director of the CIA, with General McChrystal being the On Scene Commander aka Politically Expedient Scapegoat if the Mission Fails.

            The Termination of Osama Bin Laden was considered a last Resort (Mission Failure) if Osama Bin Laden could not be Captured. The Termination Osama Bin Laden was only added after President Bush (43) Amended the US No Assassination Policy. Harvard International Review, Article, 2006, "US No Assassination Policy On The Offensive".

            General McChrystal was asked by President Karzai to investigate President Obama's Political Appointees Holbrooke and Eikenberry spending Billions USDs with nothing being done nor built as they promised to President Karzai; as to how President Karzai got elected, using the promises of President Obama's Political Appointees Holbrooke and Eikenberry saying that electricity and water would be reinstated.

            General McChrystal makes the mistake of telling President Obama's Political Appointees that he is investigating them, they start screaming to the International News Media to deflect blame from themselves, "Karzai Corrupt"; and start many adverse actions to get General McChrystal Relieved of Command to stop his Investigations.

            These Billions USDs are still not accounted for, and the US Department of State still only has access, not the US Military, nor the Afghans. After being Relieved of Command by President Obama, General Petraeus completed General McChrystal's Investigation of President Obama's Political Appointees, after reading the Investigation Reports President Karzai was so pissed he demanded that President Obama's Political Appointees Holbrooke and Eikenberry account for every dime they spent in His Country or get out.

            Pertaining to Libya, US NATO was telling President Obama that the Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada was at Libya. President Gaddaffi as a Collaborator to the CIA also told President Obama about all the specific Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists gathering at Bengazhi (near his main munitions storage depot) that his Libyan Military were actually fighting. LTC Woods and his US Army Special Forces Teams were at Libya in February, for those that do not know how to read a calendar February comes BEFORE March the First US Military Attacks, who do you think he was talking to as the Established Government of Libya as President Gaddaffi. When US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces are attached to the President's Own Executive Agency, the CIA, the CIA daily briefs the President; same with when they are attached to the US Department of State with the SOS Representatives daily briefing the President.

            President Obama's reputation "Don't confuse me with the Facts, my mind is made up", and "my way or the highway".

            • 2 votes
            #10.4 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

            thomas-819915 - Hilarious: Ok, guys funding is cut.

            SOS Clinton, "Funding was not an Issue".

            • 2 votes
            #10.5 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

            Doubt that China will be a superpower anytime soon. They have lots of internal problems and over a billion people to deal with. Forcing them to join the military may work via sheer weight of numbers, however, the global economy is collapsing and that dominoe effect will affect China as well. No, I don't see this as nation driven so much as currency driven. Look to the global banks for some insight there.

            As to playing with their brains? Impossible. First, there must be a brain to play with. No one has a clue about what to do these days, Obama nor Romney, note how they dance around issues and distract and deflect? I do think that Romney is far less agenda driven than Obama, Obama has too many ideological issues in his background, he is a dedicated leftist and what many people fail to understand is that there is very little difference between fascism and socialism of the marxist school. Both are collectivist, the state runs everything ideologies.

            • 1 vote
            #10.6 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:37 PM EDT
            Reply

            Has anyone seen "Tunisian Children Recite Al-Qaeda Song Extolling 9/11" on

            YouTube... Amazing how these people, we insist, love us. So much so that they'd

            love to build a mosque on ground zero where they murdered 3,000 souls...do we

            dare object??????

            • 12 votes
            Reply#12 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:28 AM EDT

            How about reaffirming support for the Democracy HERE at HOME??? This forgotten country that has been pouring millions of dollars into rebel coffers in hopes that we might gain a new Democratic Ally in the Arab states. We might as well be planting trees at the north pole! These people don't want democracy and despise Western forms of government. This is just like the diatribe that fueled Vietnam and project "Iraqi Freedom". Everyone wants Democracy! We must help other countries realize it. Then they will have rainbows and cookies in abundance. They will rejoice and fart gold coins. Wake up people! They don't care. They just want Western MONEY. As Einstein once said, "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

            Stop the insanity!

            Send more diplomats and you create more future dead ambassadors and hostages. Send more weapons and they will use them against you next week. When will we ever learn??? Duh!

            • 6 votes
            Reply#13 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:40 AM EDT

            potable2 - How about reaffirming support for the Democracy HERE at HOME???

            First, the US is a Constitutional Representative Republic NOT a Democracy. As the Founding Fathers believed (US Library of Congress), that "Democracy is Mob Rule" as while the Rich Elitists Founding Fathers that refused to pay the British Taxes of the British Stamp Act while establishing the Rich Elitists (that could afford an Education) Electoral College argued that "the average citizen is too ignorant to determine the Highest Offices of the Land, President and Vice President".

            Second, you have NO Constitutional Rights, as President Obama removed those with his January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (Plural US Laws). President Obama shown during a staged news media event signing into US Laws his Patriot Acts, 04:38 minutes of 11:55 minutes:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE

            2012 to close a loop hole in his Patriot Acts President Obama signed into US Law, the President Obama NDAA, the US Military Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens; this is Rule Illegal, and President Obama appeals, and uses "Executive Privillage" to deny that this is still occuring pending his Appeals:

            Obama Signs NDAA, ACLU Disgusted

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY

            By the way if you want to argue "Obstructionist" Congress, IF President Obama wanted to be held 100% Responsible and 100% Accountable he will do as he did before to circumvent the US Congress "The Will of the People", keep clicking "Next", see something Unconstitutional, TOUGH, that is what you voted for:

            http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions

            • 2 votes
            #13.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:45 PM EDT
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            The Biggest Loser.

              Reply#14 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:56 AM EDT

              The United America Party mandates that all financial aid and support to all foreign countries be frozen immediately for 5 years. After 5 years America can only provide aid to foreign countries when our government spending has an annual surplus, and then it may only be a percentage of that surplus.

              This Administration just spent 1 Trillion dollars more than it had in 2012, adding another Trillion dollars of debt to the American Taxpayer. In 2011 this Administration spent 1.27 Trillion dollars more than it had, so in just 2 years this Administration added 2.27 Trillion dollars to our national debt.

              What did the average American citizen get in 2011 and 2012? Nothing! We want a line item list of how this 2.27 Trillion dollars was spent, because it certainly wasn't spent on American citizens.

              Visit www.unitedamericaparty.org and read our federal mandates.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#15 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:02 AM EDT

              The a$$holes in DC continue to take care of the world while taking everything from us.Our tax system was created to take care of US,NOT THE WORLD!Us seinors will be getting another INSULTING RAISE ! If those A$$HOLES stopped taking care of the world,we would have plenty of money to take care of our country!Im sure you people knowtice that the media NEVER brings this up to those A$$HOLES.Why is that?!!

              • 2 votes
              #15.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:09 AM EDT

              Ronald Casteel,

              Your Facts kind of verify the "Conspiracy Theorists" claim that President Obama is attempting to bring the US down to the level of other Nations (third world) by bankrupting the US.

              President Obama, "Level the playing field".

              You did not count the not previously budgeted for $2.1 Trillion Spent by President Obama, requiring the current cuts to the previously budgeted for Programs and Projects for the US Citizens.

              • 2 votes
              #15.2 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:53 PM EDT
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              The old bag is just trying to cover her azz. Obama and Bozo, did you hear the old bag or are still in denial? Omg, what a joke!

              Bill (Hillarys wife) I think you should back to Monica, maybe shes not as stupid as your wife, or maybe your wife is cheating in you with Bozo. YUK.

              RR 2012

              • 9 votes
              Reply#16 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:26 AM EDT

              The question that is not being asked is, Were these killings in Libya State Sponsored or not?

              If they were State Sponsored, I 'd say we need to go in and whoop a$$.

              We can't forget about the people in Libya who have attacked the Militias and forced them to disband, the very same ones who cared deeply about Ambassador Stevens.

              Osama Bin Laden was brought to Justice on President Obamas watch and he will bring these killers to justice. If he does not get help from the new leadership in Libya to bring them to Justice, then we need to take a hard look at them.

                Reply#17 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:59 AM EDT

                ted415784 - If they were State Sponsored, I 'd say we need to go in and whoop a$$.

                Good you go do that you chickenhawk so that we can leave US AFRICOM.

                ted415784 - We can't forget about the people in Libya who have attacked the Militias and forced them to disband, the very same ones who cared deeply about Ambassador Stevens.

                FAIL. It is common practice to incite the people to do things like that, by telling them that just like Afghanistan's Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists will be showing up at night to take whatever they want including their children as Mandatory Islamic Tithes, or if they resist, then every night murders, beatings, sodomy, rapes, chopping off of body parts. Why do you think that the Libyan's stated that they wanted the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadist Foreign Fighters out of Libya that were wearing clothes that came from Afghanistan.

                ted415784 - Osama Bin Laden was brought to Justice on President Obamas watch and he will bring these killers to justice.

                Keep believing that President Obama had anything to do with that, wait your arse about 20 years and demand under the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) the mission cams, mission video conferences. I will not say anymore as I have received a Letter of Reprimand for Disclosing "Potentially" Classified Information, so much for President Obama's Promised "Transparency".

                ted415784 - If he does not get help from the new leadership in Libya to bring them to Justice, then we need to take a hard look at them.

                Go read the Holy Koran as to what happens to Collaborators to Christians, Jews, Unbelievers.

                President Obama supported the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists of Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) aka the current Government of Libya.

                • 1 vote
                #17.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:10 PM EDT
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                "The United States will not retreat," Clinton said. "We will keep leading and we will stay engaged in the Maghreb and everywhere in the world, including in those hard places where America’s interests and values are at stake."

                Don't you think that the world already knows the US isn't going away if there is something politicians want or think of as a US interest! They just can't see past themselves or that it would truly mean something if the US was not giving up ''including in those hard places where America’s interests and values are not at stake''. You know doing something for someone just because it's right and not because our interest are at stake the America I thought I grew up in.

                  Reply#18 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:46 AM EDT

                  Islam and democracy don't work. Who doesn't get that? All that the Arab Spring brought about was a boat load of new dictators. Look at the new nut job in Egypt, he's proof enough. All that the Arab Spring brought about was a breeding ground for radical islam. Yes folks, radical islam does exist even though the muslims in the U.S. are trying to erase the term from our police and intelligence services records.

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#19 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:54 AM EDT

                  In supermarket, there are bags and bags of apples, and some of them are good, but occasionally there would be few or several bad apples. And are we going to say that let us not to have apples? No, and that will be naive. The consumers just find the bad apple and throw it away.
                  Usually, most of the apples are good, with good nurturing and handling.
                  The nations of Libya and Egypt cannot go back to the previous political state, and both nations have to moving forward, with the support and assistance from UN and all democratic nations, Give them respect and continue to help them. We are a democratic nation, not perfect, but USA will support them.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#20 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:34 AM EDT

                  Billie--nice analogy, but you forget one thing--if you let the 'bad apples' STAY in the bag with the 'good apples' they will cause the GOOD ones to rot too. Doesn't matter if you are nice to the apples or not.

                  • 4 votes
                  #20.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

                  I think we should all be nice to apples.

                    #20.2 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                    Billie-2352729 - We are a democratic nation

                    First, the US is a Constitutional Representative Republic NOT a Democracy. As the Founding Fathers believed (US Library of Congress), that "Democracy is Mob Rule" as while the Rich Elitists Founding Fathers that refused to pay the British Taxes of the British Stamp Act while establishing the Rich Elitists (that could afford an Education) Electoral College argued that "the average citizen is too ignorant to determine the Highest Offices of the Land, President and Vice President".

                    Second, you have NO Constitutional Rights, as President Obama removed those with his January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (Plural US Laws). President Obama shown during a staged news media event signing into US Laws his Patriot Acts, 04:38 minutes of 11:55 minutes:

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE

                    2012 to close a loop hole in his Patriot Acts President Obama signed into US Law, the President Obama NDAA, the US Military Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens; this is Rule Illegal, and President Obama appeals, and uses "Executive Privillage" to deny that this is still occuring pending his Appeals:

                    Obama Signs NDAA, ACLU Disgusted

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY

                    By the way if you want to argue "Obstructionist" Congress, IF President Obama wanted to be held 100% Responsible and 100% Accountable he will do as he did before to circumvent the US Congress "The Will of the People", keep clicking "Next", see something Unconstitutional, TOUGH, that is what you voted for:

                    http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions

                    Billie-2352729 - but USA will support them.

                    You go ahead and support the Terrorist Organizations listed by SOS Clinton's US Department of State, the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood (Egypt), the Fundamentalist Islamic Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (Libya).

                    As ILLEGAL against the President Obama's US Laws, January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (Plural US Laws) that eliminated Constitutional Rights. Section of (NO) Material Support to Terrorist Organizations, as upheld 2010 by the US Supreme Court.

                    • 1 vote
                    #20.3 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:22 PM EDT
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                    Hillary be praised, your commitment here is heroic and your tirelessness is commended in the exemplar. let it be said, loud and proud, Seceretary Hillary Rodham Clinton is a rock star.....so is Bill Hague.....ahhhh yeeeaaahhhh!!!!

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#21 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:04 AM EDT

                    Lol

                    • 1 vote
                    #21.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:35 PM EDT
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                    What a crock of crap! US support Arab Spring in the Middle East?

                    The coded message translated into plain english: America will only back the Libyan rebels and the new government so long as they keep their promise to return American oil investments in Libya that Kadahfi nationalized.

                    If Arab Spring means freedom from dictatorship, then Clinton clearly got busted on this one. Did America send combat troops, air support, and weapons in support of the rebels who staged uprising in Egyptian , Libya, Algeria, and Syria ?

                    What about US supporting an Arab Spring in dictatorship nations such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, and etc? No? It is because so long as the oil flows into USA, America will support any regime, regardless of oppression.

                    Hypocrisy is too subtle a word.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#22 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:28 AM EDT
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                    Right Hillary. Arab Spring Democratic movements or whatever you care to term them are like an enema gone wrong.

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#23 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:02 AM EDT

                    Now that Obumbles has thrown Hillary under the bus for the Libya disaster, it should take no time at all for her to retaliate. Come clean about the libya debacle Hil. There is still time to preserve a wee bit of your legacy. Don't let Obumbles take you down.

                    Listen to Bill. F Obama.

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#25 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:36 AM EDT

                    Hillry mut like being under the bus, seems she is used to it by now after this cover up. I wonder if Bill will be dodging ashtrays at home? Her "pretty in pink" days seem to be over.

                    • 1 vote
                    #25.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:10 PM EDT
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                    Obama has thrown Hillary and the intelligence apparatus under the bus. The October surprise this year is that someone will go public and refute all of Obama's lies about the embassy attack.

                    Does anyone believe that when President Obama addressed the UN in late September that he STILL had not been informed this was a terrorist attack? B!S!

                    I'm betting on Hillary. She wants to be president in 2016. She has to find a way to hang this all on Obama or that will NEVER happen.

                    Bill is probably salivating. Payback for the race card being thrown in 2008 - Obama will learn that payback is hell.

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#26 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:46 AM EDT

                    Democrats stick together until the end, Bill is still out trying to get Obama re-elected, as Hillary is being scapegoated.

                    • 3 votes
                    #26.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:13 AM EDT

                    Here we go again trying to spread our values to the rest of the world. I disagree with Hillary on this one but the republican platform is essentially the same: "RAH RAH RAH lets kick everybody's ass and send everyone else's children to fight"

                    Dick Cheney- deferment. Karl Rove- Deferment. Rush Limbaugh- Deferment. Mitt Romney - Deferment.

                    If the republicans think that the Obama administration has been a foreign policy failure please dont tell me that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will make it better, two guys with absolutely no foreign policy experience whatsoever. Mitt Romney a corporate raider for president and so-called "job creator," any jobs he created here were balanced with just as many outsourced to China. And Paul Ryan, who's claim to fame is voucherizing medicare and privatizing social security. Gimme a break. These guys will do better? The republicans had a good candidate, a moderate with a wealth of foreign policy experience and knowledge, his name was Jon Huntsman. But the republicans are too radical now to nominate him. Instead they bring in these two clowns.

                    There may well have been some mistakes made within the state dept and the administration - it was obviously a sensitive situation. But anybody with any sense cannot honestly think that a Romney/Ryan ticket will deliver better results.

                      #26.2 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:42 PM EDT
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                      And which emerging democracies would those be?

                      Libya? Um, no.

                      Egypt? Nope.

                      Syria? What?

                      Tunisia? Seriously, now.

                      Oops.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#27 - Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:47 AM EDT
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