Clinton: 'We did everything we could to keep our people safe'

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, walking with her Peruvian counterpart Rafael Roncagliolo, traveled to Peru to promote entrepreneurship among women. During the trip, she spoke to reporters about the Benghazi attacks.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Monday in an interview with NBC News that she worked day and night following the fatal attacks on the Benghazi consulate to ensure the safety of other government workers abroad.

She also discouraged the current debate about who should be blamed for the security breach that led to the attacks.

"I really believe that tragedies like what happened in Benghazi should be viewed in a non-political way," Clinton continued. "Everybody should pull together as Americans."

Rather than focusing on who to blame for the attacks, the State Department stayed "focused not on why something happened that was for the intelligence community to determine, but what was happening and could happen,” Clinton said. “We did everything we could to keep our people safe, which is my primary responsibility.”

She told CNN: "I take responsibility. I'm in charge of the State Department's 60,000-plus people all over the world, 275 posts."

The attacks on the Benghazi consulate on Sept. 11 have become a political piñata leading up to the presidential elections in November.


Republicans have blamed the Obama administration for wavering on what triggered the attack. Initially, the White House said the attacks were a spontaneous, angry response to a low-budget movie maligning the Prophet Mohammad. The Obama administration has since said the attacks were carefully planned by terrorists.

Four Americans died in the attack, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. Protests – some violent, others peaceful – emerged throughout the region and reached as far as Australia.

In a statement from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, officials said they are revising their initial assessment of the attack in Benghazi to reflect new information indicating that it was a "deliberate and organized terrorist attack carried out by extremists." NBC's Pete Williams reports.

On Monday, when asked if the initial reports indicated that there had been an intelligence failure, Clinton said she didn’t want to engage in a “blame game.”

"What we want to do is get to the bottom of what happened, figure out what we're going to do to protect people and prevent it from happening again, and then track down who ever did it and bring them to justice," Clinton said, echoing Biden's comments during the debate.

The White House has confirmed that the terror attack that killed four Americans at the Libya consulate was orchestrated by al-Qaida sympathizers, but questions remain about when it was planned. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

In the media, what happened in Benghazi has become the foreign policy go-to question. Moderator Martha Raddatz made Libya the first topic of discussion during the vice presidential debate last week.

“When you take a look at what has happened just in the last few weeks, they sent the U.N. ambassador out to say that this was because of a protest and a YouTube video,” Congressman Paul Ryan said during the debate with Vice President Joe Biden. “It took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack.”

On Friday, Clinton reaffirmed U.S. support of Libya, saying pulling back would be a "costly strategic mistake."

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice discusses the financial aid the U.S. provides to Middle Eastern countries.

The terrorists who attacked the mission do not represent the Libyan people, she said, noting the protests that broke out after the attacks against the militias in Libya.

Related: Clinton reaffirms support for Libya and emerging democracies

"The United States will not retreat," Clinton said on Friday. "We will keep leading and we will stay engaged in the Maghreb and everywhere in the world, including in those hard places where America’s interests and values are at stake."

NBC News' Isolde Raftery contributed to this report.

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  • 6 votes
#1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:17 PM EDT

Hillary Clinton wants to avoid the "blame game" because she is fully aware that most of the blame rests squarely on her shoulders.

They claim to want to avoid the "blame game" but their first move is always to find some way to direct ALL of the blame to Republicans. Usually through lying. They blame the Republicans for the budget cuts, even though more democrats voted for those cuts than Republicans.

Keep running Hillary, hopefully until your out of office.

  • 230 votes
#1.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

What's good? The embassy repeatedly asked for more security, but the whole administration was too busy campaigning to get the Inept One reelected to listen to them. Result: several of our people slaughtered....gee, I hope the campaigning went well for you all.

  • 246 votes
#1.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:23 PM EDT
Comment author avatarowencoffinRestored

Republicans including Paul "Lyin Ryan" voted to cut funding for embassy security.

  • 57 votes
#1.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:28 PM EDT
Comment author avatarIndustrial StrengthExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

And President Obama is taking responsibility for driving the bus that just ran over Mrs. Clinton?

Never Obama's fault, gotta wonder about that.

One and done!

  • 222 votes
#1.4 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:30 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDTNIC01Restored

Wow Hillary just gave up her shot at the 2016 election to protect the dem's boy obama. They are using her like bush used Powell. Both have had their reputations ruined. The sad thing is that obama and biden don't care for her and have already started to toss her, the State Dept., and the intelligent community under the bus. Not to mention that the cover up is most likely going to cost obama the election anyway.

We all know that it wasn't obama's fault. He never does anything wrong. I bet obama thinks it was bush's fault. Hell even biden blamed it on Romney during the debate.

  • 198 votes
#1.5 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:31 PM EDT
Comment author avatarLarry EExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Thats a lie owencoffin the budget was cut on nondefensive projects and the white house decided what was cut not the republicans.You liberals make me sick!

  • 148 votes
#1.6 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:31 PM EDT

Owencoffin, did you read my post? Plus the DOD was funding the troops that were already there not the embassy budget; and those troops were pulled against the advice of Lt. Colonel Andrew Woods. Google him, you'll learn a lot.

Oh, and lets disregard the fact, that if those cuts were not made then Obama's massive spending literally would have driven this nation over a fiscal cliff.

  • 86 votes
#1.7 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:32 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRThomas-2508206Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Bill Clinton was so right I dont know when Republicans became so hateful, but they are and it is truly destroying our country.

  • 43 votes
#1.8 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarearthpigExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

And make no mistake, our military is getting this same type of Washington DC leadership...and I ain't talking about Hillary taking one for the team.

Hope and change to hate and despair to lie after lie after lie. Go ahead team Obama...look at the early films of you and your administration. The absolute arrogance...the prancing...the tone..

And all of it stemming from the need to hide the incompetence. I have more respect for Hillary than her boss...

  • 148 votes
#1.9 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarWhy?-3122622Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Romney Is Attacked by His Father’s Longtime Aid

By MICHAEL BARBARO

A longtime aide to George W. Romney issued a harshly worded
critique of Mitt Romney, accusing him of shifting political positions in
“erratic and startling ways” and failing to live up to the distinguished record
of his father, the former governor of Michigan.

Walter De Vries, who worked for the senior Mr. Romney
throughout the 1960s, wrote that Mitt Romney’s bid for the White House was “a
far cry from the kind of campaign and conduct, as a public servant, I saw
during the seven years I worked in George Romney’s campaigns and served him as
governor.”

“While it seems that Mitt would say and do anything to close
a deal – or an election,” he wrote, “George Romney’s strength as a politician
and public officeholder was his ability and determination to develop and hold
consistent policy positions over his life.”

Mr. De Vries’s stinging assessment was contained in a nearly
700-word essay that he distributed to a small group of journalists with whom he
has spoken over the past year. He said it was an outline for a book that may or
may not be published. The Romney campaign did not immediately respond to a request
for a comment.

A registered independent, who said he voted for Barack Obama
in 2008, Mr. De Vries has previously expressed reservations about Mr. Romney’s
political postures in interviews, but never with such sweep.

In a telephone interview, he said he was motivated to write
the essay by “an accumulation” of Mr. Romney’s actions, like his comment about
47 percent of Americans and his decision to campaign with Donald Trump.

Mr. De Vries said he was annoyed by Mr. Romney’s repeated
references recently to his father as inspiration and influence on him.

“I just don’t see it,” he said. “Where is it? Is it on
issues, no? On the way he campaigns? No.”

Mr. De Vries continued, “George would never have been seen
with the likes of Sheldon Adelson or Donald Trump.”

(Mr. Adelson, a casino magnate, is a major donor to the
“super PACs” that support Mr. Romney.)

Mr. De Vries, who said he wished to the see the Republican
Party return to its moderate roots, said he intended to vote for Mr. Obama on
Election Day.

  • 30 votes
#1.10 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

There's really no one to "blame" unless you want to go all the way back to 2001 when we started using our military and intelligence agencies to hand out bags of rice instead of using them as a murder machine to slaughter our enemies and terrify the civilian population that supports them.

It's not like reduced security is unheard of. It's protocal for crying out loud! Read the Counterinsurgency Field Manual, read anything Patreaus ever wrote, read McKillen...look at how COIN patrols are conducted. Reduced security - yeah, that's pretty much what everyone whose ever been on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan was living with on a daily basis.

You want to blame someone, blame these idiots in the Pentagon, blame the military, blame the professors at West Point - blame anyone who's still preaching this "hearts and minds" crap after 30 years of Islamic insurgency.

Somehow I doubt Hilary Clinton is to blame here...

  • 28 votes
#1.11 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

They did everything they could?! What a pathetic lie! Four Americans are dead because of her and President Obama's intentional lack of providing the proper security. And being President means the buck stops you you. I know Obama assumes things are either above his pay grade or out of his job scope (a true affirmative action government employee mentality), but he is ultimately responsible for the deaths of these four Americans. They asked for help, and his Administration denied them basic security.

The blood of these Americans is on his and Hilary's hands. They set them up to be murdered. He should be impeached and/or tried for treason!

  • 100 votes
#1.12 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:35 PM EDT
Comment author avatarowencoffinExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Strange how the GOP'ers are far more upset about this than they were about Bush allowing the attack on 9/11 to happen despite a multitude of clear warnings.

Just a big coincidence that Bush was safe in Florida when the planes hit the buildings.

  • 34 votes
#1.13 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:36 PM EDT
Comment author avatarArthur66Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

But the questions still remain:

*How high up does the cover-up go?

*Who instructed Ambassador Rice to lie on national TV?

*What did the President know in advance of the attacks?

*Why did the Administration blame this on some obscure online video trailer?

*Did the President knowingly instruct Jay Carney to lie and to continue to lie?

*Why was Ambassador Stevens not in the embassy on the anniversary of 9/11, but rather in a consulate in an incredibly dangerous city?

*Why did it take 3 weeks for the FBI to arrive and commence their investigation?

*What did the President know, and when did he know it?

This is a major scandal that is finally getting some coverage in the MSM!

  • 97 votes
#1.14 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJen-898653Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The adulterous obama administration:

- obama screws hillary in 2008 and bill thanks him by campaigning for him. Hillary thanks him by becoming her screwers SofS.

- obama screws hillary in 2012 and bill thanks him by campaigning for him. Hillary thanks him by committing political hari kari.

  • 76 votes
#1.15 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

Clinton said. “We did everything we could to keep our people safe" and I thought that they got killed? Obviously, if everything that could've been done, was done, they are still alive.

  • 101 votes
#1.16 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMaineboundExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

For the misinformed posters above, Ryan DID vote to cut the spending that would increase security, budget submitted went from 135 million to over 300, and Ryan said no way.... Do YOUR fact checking Reps... Teabags belong in hot water... sheesh

  • 28 votes
#1.17 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:38 PM EDT

Her days are numbered no matter who wins the election, along with Rice..

  • 93 votes
#1.18 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:39 PM EDT
Comment author avatarowencoffinExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community


Mother and Friend are Sickened by Romney’s use of Slain SEAL for Political Gain

The mother of slain Navy SEAL Glen Doherty is not happy to hear Mitt Romney using her dead son for political gain. She told 7News of Boston, “I don’t trust Romney. He shouldn’t make my son’s death part of his political agenda. It’s wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama.”

You might have thought Romney’s callous, bizarre presser about the attacks was bad enough, but Mitt Romney wasn’t done politicizing the deaths of four Americans in the September 11 attacks on the American consulate in Benghazi. Needing to humanize himself after his 47% comments, the Romney team found a new way to endear Romney on the stump. He could tell a story about Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, whom he had once met at a Christmas Party.

You have probably seen a clip of Romney saying this in Van Meter, Iowa because he showed emotion and the press was entranced. Speaking with fond emotion of Doherty and their meeting, Romney said, “You can imagine how I felt when I found out that he was one of the two former Navy SEALS killed in Benghazi on September 11th.”

Except that is not how one of Glen Doherty’s close friends of twenty years remembers Doherty’s chance meeting with Romney in an interview with MyNorthwest. According to Doherty’s friend Elf Ellefsen, Romney introduced himself to Doehrty four times during the same party, not remembering that he had already met Glen. Doherty called it “pathetic and comical”. Each time, Romney introduced himself “robotically” as “Mitt Romney, political figure.” Glen believed it to be very “insincere and stale.”

Elf said it made him sick to hear Romney using his friend Glen on the stump. “Whether it be Republican, Democrat, Green Party, Libertarian, it doesn’t make a difference. Because this guy is using our great friend, our humble, and honorable great friend…who is truly larger than life…He has become part of the soapbox routine for politics in a presidential race.”

Reporter Libby Denkmann asked Ellefsen “what he thought of his friend’s story being used on the political stump”, to which Ellefsen replied, “Honestly it does make me sick. Glen would definitely not approve of it… I think Glen would feel, more than anything, almost embarrassed for Romney. I think he would feel pity for him.”

Glen Doherty’s mother and close friend do not appreciate Romney using their loved one to score cheap points on the trail. Glen’s mother is specifically appalled to see Romney using her son to hurt President Obama, when Glen fought for freedom for all. Glen’s friend Elf says it makes him sick, and that his friend found Romney pathetic and comical.

It doesn’t get much more cynical than using someone’s death for your own political gain, especially when that person would not have approved of your campaign or your tactics, and even worse, when you didn’t even remember meeting him the first three times you introduced yourself to him. Romney used the story again on the trail today.

Update 2:30PM: The Romney campaign aide Kevin Madden told Buzzfeed that they will stop using the Glen Doherty story on the campaign trail, though Romney was allegedly “inspired” by meeting the man he forgot three times in a row.

  • 28 votes
#1.19 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:40 PM EDT
Comment author avatarGOP SucksExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

John Doe, Spider,

Lyin' Ryan cut the funding that would have had the security levels at embassies higher at the time of the attack. He probably did it hoping that this would happen. He is a Nazi, anti-American, demon spawn, Class A, A-hole.

And let's be even more honest here - the level of security that could have been implemented under the lyin' Ryan security budget would have still been too small to repel the attack - so I put this to you - are you saying that you would rather have seen more American security forces killed? Your guy wantd the forces reduced, so here we are! Who would you blame then? Look in the mirror. As your Godfather's pizza candidate said, "Blame Yourself!". Also remember that in his budget there was plenty of room to give the oil companies their US taxpayer subsidies, and there was enough pork in the stimulus for him to beg for some and say how good and useful it would be.

If you vote for Romney Ryan you are most certainly going to hell. Just for being too stupid to go to heaven.

Idiots.

  • 20 votes
#1.20 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:41 PM EDT

YO Mainebound did you happen to catch the fact during your fact checking that it was piggy backed on another bill that was not good for the American public..

  • 42 votes
#1.21 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:41 PM EDT
Comment author avatarWhy?-3122622Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Where were the Republicans when these happened? I did'nt hear anyone crying for me in 1981 We just got backs turned on us.

February 21, 2008-The embassy in Serbia was burnt to the
ground killing 2. What did President Bush do? Nothing

July 9, 2008 United States consulate in Istanbul, Turkey was attacked, gunfire
on the consulate resulted in 6 casualties.
What did president Bush do? Nothing

Sept 18, 2008-a deadly attack on the US embassy in Sana'a Yemen 16 dead.
What did President Bush do? Nothing

Sept 12 2006- DAMASCUS — Four gunmen attacked
the American Embassy there early Tuesday, storming the compound with grenades
and automatic weapon? What did President Bush do? Nothing

December 7, 2004- U.S. Consulate in Saudi City is hit, Killing 9.

What did President Bush do? Nothing

April 19, 1983- Pro-Iranian terrorists Monday claimed responsibility for a gigantic explosion that ripped through the U.S. Embassy in Beirut Lebanon, killing at least 39, including 6 Americans.
What did President Regan do? Nothing

October 23, 1983- Marine Barracks, Beirut Lebanon bombed 241 Americans killed.
What did President Regan do? Left out there like sitting
duck’s we could not even put a magazine in our weapons.

  • 38 votes
#1.22 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:42 PM EDT

Well Obama is not quite ready to throw Hillary under the bus just yet. He still needs good ole Billy Clinton out there stumping for him. But if Obama loses the election, my bet is watch the gloves come off then. I think it will be pretty funny to watch all of the finger pointing then.

Just remember a Democrat always has to leave their options open to place blame on anyone but themselves.

  • 104 votes
#1.23 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:43 PM EDT

Owencoffin, the attacks in 2001 were carefully planned for years. The attack in Benghazi, was blatant, obvious, and was pulled off in a day. There is a huge difference between the two.

The thing about the attacks in Benghazi was how obvious it was to everyone they were coming. Obvious to everyone except the administration which was too busy worry about collecting votes.

  • 96 votes
#1.24 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:43 PM EDT
Comment author avatarUmberto ConfortiExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Lady MacBeth has spoken. Actually, Hillary has become an older looking hag than Lady MacBeth. Liar, Liar, pant suit on fire!!!! Now you can see why Bill liked about 50 some other women.

  • 36 votes
#1.25 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

What I find obsurd is that they start blaming republicans for cutting funds for the embassies. Really?? While democrats spend embassy budget money to put chargin stations for chevy volts you want to lie some more to cover your traces. I also love how they have been using our weapons on us as well out there. Great job obama administration, why not cause a few more deaths on your way out....

  • 88 votes
#1.26 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:45 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJen-898653Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Why at post #1.22:

How convenient of you to leave out all the terrorist attacks that occurred on Slick Willie's watch.

  • 69 votes
#1.27 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarowencoffinExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Bush was repeatedly warned that the attack was imminent and did nothing for months - except to make sure he was safely out of town.

  • 18 votes
#1.28 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarWhy?-3122622Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Chris Stevens' Death In Libya Shouldn't Be Politicized, Father Says

The father of Christopher Stephens, the United States ambassador who was killed in the attack in Libya last month, said Saturday that it would be "abhorrent" for his son's death to be politicized in the presidential campaign.

In an interview with Bloomberg News, Jan Stevens said the attack on Benghazi and the ensuing investigation has no place in the upcoming election.

"The security matters are being adequately investigated," Stevens, who is getting briefings from the State Department on the investigation, said. "We don’t pretend to be experts in security. It has to be objectively examined. That’s where it belongs. It does not belong in the campaign arena."

Since the September 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Mitt Romney has been critical of President Obama's response to the tragedy, slamming the president for lapses in security at the American compound.

On Sunday, a number of Obama campaign surrogates appeared on Sunday talk shows to hit back at the Romney campaign's criticism.

"[There] is no doubt he is working hard to exploit this issue," senior campaign adviser David Axelrod said of Romney during an appearance on "Fox News Sunday."

Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden made a similar point on ABC's "This Week."

"This is a tragedy when we lose an ambassador and three other personnel," Biden said. “This is not a moment in time where we should be politicizing these issues."

While Stevens would not directly criticize Romney for invoking the attacks in the campaign, he reiterated that the focus should be on his son's memory, not the political implications of his death.

"I’m not sure exactly what [Romney's] been saying and not saying, but our position is it would be a real shame if this were politicized," Stevens said. "Our concern now is memorializing Chris and remembering his contribution to the country."

Last week, the mother of a Navy SEAL killed in the attack made a similar appeal to the Romney campaign, asking the Republican to stop mentioning her son's name on the campaign trail.

"I don't trust Romney. He shouldn't make my son's death part of his political agenda," Barbara Doherty, whose son, Glen was killed in Benghazi, said. "It's wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama.”

  • 21 votes
#1.29 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRoger-785733Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@ Owencoffin Great post !

Strange how the GOP'ers are far more upset about this than they were about Bush allowing the attack on 9/11 to happen despite a multitude of clear warnings

You are 100% correct with your statement . . .and then off to fight two wars on top of that . . . What was termed as "Shock and Awe" turned in to " Shock and Awe " for the tax payers . .

The Republicans do not want to talk about that now do they . . .

  • 28 votes
#1.30 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

The Traitor-in-Chief may think Hilary is falling on the sword for him - but anyone with have a brain (which Obama supporters clearly don't have), understands that the responsibility lies with Obama. The President is always ultimately responsible for everything his administration does.

  • 73 votes
#1.31 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

Owencoffin- we know "All Bush's fault". Wake up my friend it gets old.

  • 79 votes
#1.32 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

Hillary wants this viewed in a NON-POLITICAL way???? We should pull together as Americans??? Nice. Maybe the Obama administration should try pulling together with Americans ratehr than npulling this country apart. THe blame lies exactly where it deserves to be laid. In Obama and Hillarys' laps!!!!!! Stop passing the buck, It really does stop with Obama.

  • 99 votes
#1.33 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:47 PM EDT

Clinton said she didn’t want to engage in a “blame game.”

First time we've heard that from this administration, That's been the the Obama administrations strategy for four years. Blame Bush, Blame the Tea party, blame congress...... Just two weeks ago it was blame the altitude in Denver.

  • 103 votes
#1.34 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:47 PM EDT
Comment author avatarwarthog213-984171Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

These people should have been left open for an attack and should be a foward censor towards peace. If America was handling this in a proper accord over there in the Middle East we would not need it. Ya know if you send drones to mindlessly kill, that everyone you kill you are making 10 enemies so live with it and stop whining about it. If you start funding life today like education and stepped up security with-in a nation by its own people. Instead of letting someone try to cram another religion down their throats. Or telling grown ups how they should raise their children and such. You might find that the world would become a more peaceful place in the long run. Just read some of these comments to find out what the world is really like today, so sleep with it a stop crying about it or do something about it.

Not anyone who lives life will ever be safe nor will all of us live our lives happily or die with a happy ending. They could have died here in the USA as far as that goes.

  • 4 votes
#1.35 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:48 PM EDT

It sure to her long enough!!!!

  • 13 votes
#1.36 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:48 PM EDT

Yes, it's everyone but them. The finger pointing game needs to be over, hold our leadership accountable!

  • 74 votes
#1.37 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:49 PM EDT

Sorry Hillary. You did not do everything you could.

I have never been a fan of Hillary but it is totally wrong for her to take the fall for Obama.

BARRACK OBAMA... FAILED PRESIDENCY

  • 115 votes
#1.38 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:49 PM EDT

Uhhh Hillary....This is Barrack ..... Need you to do a little favor?

  • 91 votes
#1.39 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:50 PM EDT

Hillary is throwing herself under the bus to help Obama's reelection, nothing more maternal , I almost cry!!!!!

By the way, all complaint about the Republicans cutting founds , all is about priorities, how many vacations had the Obamas family? . How much money the State department spend in meeting and conventions? All is about priorities and Obama doesn't know prioritize.

  • 76 votes
#1.40 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:55 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJen-898653Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

So let's recap:

Bush gets faulty intelligence regarding WMD's in Iraq and the rabid drooling libs want to hang and quarter him.

Obama gets faulty intelligence regarding the terrorist assassination of our Ambassador (the first in over 40 years I might add), and he's just "out of the loop".

Inept, unqualified, undignified, petulant, snide, arrogant little man child.

  • 91 votes
#1.41 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:55 PM EDT

Amazing how the wheel turns, the problem is it’s always the same wheel, the Administration’s wheel. Everyone there is accountable, they live in each other’s face every day so as far as I am concerned the hub is President Obama and the wheel turns around him, so the buck stops with him!

Clinton: “We did everything we could to keep our people safe” is a sad joke. The safety of our people in Benghazi was the last thing on their minds.

For me, November can’t come soon enough.

  • 71 votes
#1.42 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:55 PM EDT

So much for the strong independant progressive woman. She let's men use her like a Black and Decker hand tool!

  • 68 votes
#1.43 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:58 PM EDT

Jen;

Most Democrats disregard the fact that congress voted to go to war with Iraq, and a lot of those who voted for the war were democrats.

  • 73 votes
#1.44 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:00 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTheKhanKublaRestored

Things wouldn't have been any different had there been Republicans in the White House. Our government has a way of not providing materials needed for the safety of our citizens who put themselves in harms way. Let us not forget the military going into Afghanistan asking for better armored vehicles and Bush denied it. Solution - the military welded scrap metal onto their vehicles. I remember at this same time (since I was in the military) our government was spending money surveying all the toilets in government facilities because they wanted to have all of them be the same brand - most likely Bush's government spent around a billion dollars checking out every toilet in government bathrooms around the globe and I don't think they were ever changed. But armor for the military? Nope!

  • 15 votes
#1.45 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:01 PM EDT
Comment author avatarIWonder-932455Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Think about it, just a few more dead men in hilary's wake. None of the rest of them seems to have bothered her, why should these?

  • 36 votes
#1.46 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:02 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMike-475880Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

we know "All Bush's fault". Wake up my friend it gets old.

Doesn't make it any less true however old you feel it's getting.

  • 10 votes
#1.47 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

Hillary does not want to talk about who is to blame because it is her and her boss who are to blame. There were repeated requests for increased security in Libya by the Ambassador and his security team. These requests fell on deaf ears in the administration. Obama had caved in to the Libyans when they did not want to have a Marine detachment or private security contractors protecting the embassy and consulate. Obama allowed himself to be dictated to by some third world leader into using only local security people, many of whom were not even allowed to be armed and who certainly had no loyalty. This was borne out in the fact that several of the security personnel were complicit in the attack on the consulate. The fault for this tragedy lies squarely on Clinton's and Obama's shoulders, that is why they do not want to talk about who is to blame. On top of that, in an attempt to hide their failure and cover up what really happened, they tried to sell a story that the attack was spontaneous as a result of tat stupid internet video. They knew full well that it was a planned terrorist attack because they already had intelligence indicating it was coming. They did not want this to be known because it makes them look even worse for denying the requests for added security. Clinton and Obama had warning that something was coming in Libya yet did nothing to guard against it and denied those on the ground when they requests help. If they were the head of a civilian security company instead of politicians some DA would have already charged them with depraved indifference murder in the deaths of the four American because they knew of the danger and did nothing to mitigate it.

  • 61 votes
#1.48 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:06 PM EDT

KhanKubla, war is a messy business, no one disputes that. But the thing is, we weren't at war in Lybia! Or at least we weren't supposed to be.

  • 29 votes
#1.49 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:06 PM EDT

They did everything they could to use this tragedy to pimp their anti-Christian, anti-Constitution, anti-American agenda.

If they would have done "everything we could to keep our people safe" then their people would be alive today; unless, of course, when they said "their people" they were referring to the members of their Marxist machine hiding in the White House Situation Room.

  • 59 votes
#1.50 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:07 PM EDT

It's funny how the people who are at fault never seem to want to "play the blame game".

  • 66 votes
#1.51 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:07 PM EDT

So with real time video, which yes, was at the Embassy....these creeps knew what was going on...a tactical invasion of the embassy...there were no riots in the streets just a tactical diversion for an attack plan on the embassy with the firepower to do so....why are so many Americans asleep and unconscious about the position this puts us in....when our state dept. cannot protect us overseas how the he(( can they protect us at home? Or do they really not give a crap bout US citizens?

  • 55 votes
#1.52 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:07 PM EDT

Completely out of touch....completely incompetent.....or outright lying.

It has to be one or the other. Maybe a combination of all three.

  • 69 votes
#1.53 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

Once again, Barry is blaming someone else for his failures.............

  • 68 votes
#1.54 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

Like Joe Biden likes to say....."Hey....This is a Big F_king Deal"

  • 58 votes
#1.55 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:13 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMike-475880Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

we know "All Bush's fault". Wake up my friend it gets old.

Doesn't make it any less true however old you feel it's getting.

  • 11 votes
#1.56 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:14 PM EDT
Comment author avatarjscusmc69Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

WHAT a pathetic LIAR----just like the OBAMANATION !! THEY BOTH knew about the dangers that OUR PEOPLE WERE IN......in some cases as far back as JULY.

OBAMA had the INTEL in 2 cases 5 DAYS prior to the attack and 72 HOURS from a LIBYIAN INTEL OFFICER----THIS is ABOUT covering up for the PILE of CRAP ---LIAR in CHIEF!!
WORD to THE LIAR in our WHITE HOUSE---TIME to GET OUT OF OUR WHITE HOUSE!

BOTH Clitoon and the obama are just as GUILTY of MURDER as are those who pulled the trigger---ROMNEY needs to tell HIS AG to bring charges on these two traitors and ALL OTHERS involved!

OBAMA YOU are a TOTAL FAILURE and a STUPID LIAR---TIME for you to PACK it in and get out of OUR WHITE HOUSE and OUR COUNTRY!

  • 65 votes
#1.57 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:19 PM EDT

Why-why do you have your head up your arse? I seem to remember the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, bombings of 2 embassies in 1998 and the Cole in October 2000. Who was President at the time of these occurences? I am sure I can think of more. Don't forget-I did not have sex with that woman! Ms. Liewenski! It depends on what the meaning of the world "is" is. Now Hillary is taking a bullet for that no good Obumbo. There was NOT clear messages before 9/11, but a lot of chatter. You blame Bush for 911 and so Obama can take blame for Libya. At least Bush wasn't campaigning on TV shows and Vegas and ignoring his damn job.

  • 67 votes
#1.58 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:20 PM EDT

So Hillary takes one for Barry. Yup, accountability Barry style... it was Hillary's fault

  • 57 votes
#1.59 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:22 PM EDT

So, at least Hillary is saying SOMETHING about Benghazi, while Obama is remarkably quiet. He knew that the Ambassador was missing and went to bed, when the 3:00 am call came, he didn't bother to take it. Then, the day the news breaks, he gives a speech and then hops the plane and flies to Vegas to campaign. Twelve days after the attack, still no one on the ground to investigate. Obama didn't miss any sleep, any campaigns, any appearances on Letterman or the View, nope, couldn't be bothered.

Then, in front of four flag draped coffins, he gives another speech and seems distracted, at least Hillary seemed visibly upset, Obama looked like he had a plane to catch.

Political? It wouldn't have been political if his administration hadn't persisted in a lie, told over and over while the facts and truth of the matter were already stated that it was a terrorist attack, planned in advance and advance warnings had been given. Then, no phone calls made to the Libyan premier, the man who warned about the attacks and also stated that there had been no protests, nada, none, on the night of the attacks.

If you Obama supporters want to cover up for him again, have at it, the rest of us realize that Obama is either inept or else doesn't really give a damn about those 'bumps in the road.'

  • 71 votes
#1.60 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

Nice try Kumbla

The fact is Democrats in congress regain majority in 2006 and Pelosi demand time table to withdraw as a condition to provide more founds to Iraq and Afghanistan, Republicans oppose because this condition. Nice spin , it might work with liberals , not with people that go to the facts, this is why the military favor Republicans. By the way no Republican speak against our soldiers like Democrats , "American troops terrorize women and children in the middle of the night".

  • 37 votes
#1.61 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:24 PM EDT

I really wish people's posts would not be collapsed. I might not agree with what they say, but they ought to be able to say it. If I find, over time, that a poster is a complete moron, I know where the ignore button is. I imagine that you do as well and if you decide that I am a complete moron, you can certainly ignore me.

It's aggravating to have to un-collapse these posts and it takes time.

  • 22 votes
#1.62 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:28 PM EDT
Comment author avatarnwnativeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

That's right. Paul Ryan and others voted against more money to protect our people overseas. They are as guilty as anybody else in this discussion. You can't have it both ways people.

  • 9 votes
#1.63 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:32 PM EDT

owencoffin, Roger-785733,

Clearly obvious you were NOT cognisant adults during President Clinton.

President Clinton GUTTED the US Intelligence Agencies that left the US Blind and Deaf to the Events leading up to the 9/11 2001 Attacks. President Clinton also Cut the US Military to the Bone during his Reduction In Forces (RIFs) of the US Military.

It is routine for US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces to independently verify US Intelligence Agency Information to become Actionable Intelligence, due to the President Clinton RIFs most of these US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces were NO longer available.

Because the US Lost all the Intelligence Agency Assets at Potentially Hostile Nations the US had to rely on non credible non verifiable information (not even intelligence) from Jordan, Pakistan, etc.. The US Allies did not allow the US access to their Intelligence to prevent compromises of their own Intelligence Assets.

I survived those RIFs and was involved in all the screwed up US Military Missions that President Clinton as Commander In Chief Ordered, like UN Mission Somalia aka Battle for Mogadishu. Operation Desert Fox creating the hatred of the Islamic World, US becomes the Great Satan. H.R.4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Justification Section 2 Weapons of Mass Destruction, Section 3 US Policy Overthrow of President Hussein, that later became US Military Operation Iraqis Freedom.

Because of President Clintion's Gutting of the US Intelligence Agencies we had to go into many Hostile Nations without any prior Intelligence, and more importantly no link ups on the ground with US Intelligence Assets. This will take DECADES if ever to repair, while the Hostile Nations Counter Intelligence Agencies wait for the US to attempt to implace local Intelligence Assets in these Hostile Nations.

After the US Congressional 9/11 Commission (Committee) Investigations, Findings and Recommendation, former US President Clinton, "I'm so sorry" (I'm a so sorry").

Why?-3122622,

You need to ask WHY President Obama supported these Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadist to Overthrow Former US Ally President Gaddaffi: Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) the current Government of Libya.

The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group were previously trained by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, to Overthrow US Allies Established Government at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Syria, Southern Turkey and Northwestern Iran. Previously, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group were killing US Military at Iraq, while US Ally President Gaddaffi had his Military hunting and eliminating the LIFG.

Other Fundamentalist Islamic Holy Warriors of Islam trained by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, to Overthrow US Allies Established Government at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Syria, Southern Turkey and Northwestern Iran were/are the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood, Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada International Franchises, Fundamentalist Islamic Al Sheebah, Fundamentalist Islamic Chenhen Foreign Fighters, Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Foreign Fighters, Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Pakistanis Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Haqquini Network, Fundamentalist Islamic Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK, Fundamentalist Islamic Army of Islam Gaza, Fundamentalist Islamic Hezbollah, etc. (more listed on the US Department of State list) as Funded by the Trillions USDs per year of Mandatory Islamic Tithes thru "Non Established Financial Institutions" per US Department of State, mostly the Imams at the Mosques Worldwide for their Holy Warriors of Islam.

Mike-475880 - Doesn't make it any less true however old you feel it's getting.

It does make it less true when it is a lie to begin with.

US Ambassador is a Political Appointee of the US President with Direct Access to the US President.

OBAMA LIED US AMBASSADOR DIED.

  • 61 votes
#1.64 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:33 PM EDT

owencoffin:

Republicans including Paul "Lyin Ryan" voted to cut funding for embassy security.

That is true for "for hire" security. There has not been any reduction in military security funding. They could have sent armed troops.

  • 32 votes
#1.65 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarwarthog213-984171Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Funniest thing ever is that you see a lot blaming Hillary or anyone else for these attacks. She planned them and shes eeeeeevil right.... LMAO..... Ya'll kill me with your dumb comments.

Details, details, so you gonna beleive what ya read or heard or are ya gonna beleive this. I'm pretty sure she didn't attack any Emabassies, i'm pretty sure she didn't have anyone do it. How many security members would it have taken to subdue the crowd. How many guns would have been needed to kill everyone in the crowd. I'm sure no terrorist were harmed in the commiting of these act either.

Truth is if ya keep sending guns, tanks, aircraft carriers and aircraft there your bound to make more friends right. The dumbest thing ever is to think yes to that question.... Taking out Sadam was a necessity and i'm sure we all agree about that. But after that was done we should have left them with their own problems and their selves to figure it out. Killing will earn you nothing but more enemies so live with it and stop bitching about the outcomes.....

  • 5 votes
#1.66 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:33 PM EDT

I under stand why she is doing it. But it is not right. Yes she knew and so did her "boss" if you can call him that. Is anyone in charge?

Failed leadership on every level.

This madness needs to stop.

If Obama had one once of dignity he would step down. Period.

  • 41 votes
#1.67 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:33 PM EDT

What is funny the Dem's lied for a month,threw how many people under the bus and the entire time they watched these peoples reputations be ruined and a MONTH of watching this Hilary comes out and state's it's her fault.....Why after a month did she finally grow some and admitt she was responsible.....hmmmmm what is her motive this time,who is she covering for,is it the election was she going to be fired? I bet there is another spin to this BS.....coming from this administration it never ends,the endless lies,cover ups,excuses...etc HOW DO WE LIKE OUR HOPE AND CHANGE?

VOTE ROMNEY IN NOV...out with the liars

  • 36 votes
#1.68 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:36 PM EDT

I think a valuable point is being missed in this story. And, no, it isn't that the MSM wrote an article which is nearly useless. While true, it is not all that valuable. No, the point to draw from these comments by Hillary is that SHE is throwing Mr. Obama under the bus, not the other way around. Clearly I see this radically differently from most others, so give me a few sentences to explain, please.

First, Hillary is a small amount better than Mr. Obama in my view, though this is like saying I prefer hives to hemorrhoids. She is taking responsibility though (albeit facetiously imo) in a way similar to what Janet Reno did after Ruby Ridge and Waco. Who was Janet's boss? Bill Clinton. What did Janet's "buck stops here" comment do? It elevated her public approval ratings DESPITE coming on the heels of an inexcusable governmental action. What Hillary has done here to Mr. Obama is just as calculating.

Leftists will be orgasmic over Hillary in 2016 for all the old reasons, but this event will come back as proof she has "a pair". Hillary knows that in time we will learn enough of the facts about this sad episode to show that Mr. Obama is the feckless failure of a president we all know him to be anyhow, but what will be remembered about her is her "loyalty" and her "integrity". The MSM will deify her just as they deified Mr. Obama in 2008.

These four men died not because Hillary did all she could do. But Hillary will NOW do all she can do politically to make use of their unfortunate deaths.

  • 24 votes
#1.69 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarCatydidExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Yep, this is Hillary's and Obama 's fault and 9-11 falls firmly on the shoulders of George W. Bush! Big eye roll, morons on this post tonight!

  • 6 votes
#1.70 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:37 PM EDT

I have been saying since the attack that she should end the discussion and accept full responsibility. She is the Captain of the ship of state. As fellow Dem Harry Truman knew, the buck stops here. If she doesn't step up and accept the blame, it will float up to the POTUS.

  • 11 votes
#1.71 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:37 PM EDT

Oskar: Thamks for keeping up with your research. I like your responses.

Mainbound: YOU need to learn that the "Factcheckers" today need factcheckers, as many are now known to NOT to be non-partisan like they claim. Search a little, and you find the Liberal ties in most of them! That is part of why so much got by with Obama's background when many were checking Rev. Wright, and other radical ties in 2008. Big coverup...which shows how IRRESPONSIBLE so many on yhe left are...to the point of endangering all of us. This President should NEVER have gotten in. Voter fraud via Chicago contacts didn't help either ! I'm praying it's not too late for one who is really up for the job!!!

  • 22 votes
#1.72 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

ROTFLMAO!!!!

You limp-wristed Liberals are pathetic.

You lie to protect the most incompetent junior senator, that you elected into office, simply because it was a "HISTORIC" thing!

There was no good reason, other than a couple well spoken teleprompter driven speeches, to elect this fool. His biggest accomplishments prior to being elected were a few picnics in Chicago as a community organizer and writing a couple books about himself.

This cover-up has all the underpinnings of a Watergate.

Except no one died in Watergate.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©

  • 37 votes
#1.73 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:42 PM EDT

People keep citing Factcheck. You may want to read the following:

The Annenberg Foundation was originally founded by Walter J. Annenberg, a conservative who supported Ronald Reagan. However, when Walter Annenberg died, his family took over the management of the foundation and it took a turn to the far left and has ties to radical left individuals such as Bill Ayers and his friend and fellow left wing radical collegue Barack Obama. How is factcheck.org associated with these people:

To start, Ayers was the key founder of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Chicago public school reform project from 1995 to 2001. Upon its start in 1995, Obama was appointed Board Chairman and President of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Geesh, that alone connects all three. Well, it branches out even more from there.

Ayers co-chaired the organization’s Collaborative, which set the education policies of the Challenge. Oddly enough, Obama was the one who was authorized to delegate to the Collaborative in regards to its programs and projects.

In addition to that, Obama often times had to seek advice and assistance from the Ayer’s led Collaborative in regards to the programmatic aspects of grant proposals. Ayers even sat on the same board as Obama as an “ex officio member”.

They both also sat together on the board of the CAC’s Governance Committee. Obama and Ayers were two parts of a group of four who were instructed to draft the bylaws that would govern the CAC. Keep in mind that the “A” in CAC is for Annenberg, the owners of FactCheck.org.

The funding for Ayer’s projects and those of his cronies was approved by Board Chair, Barack Obama.

  • 26 votes
#1.74 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:45 PM EDT
Comment author avatarCatydidExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Republicans really need to remember that Bush had knowledge of the possibility of the 9-11 attacks. Limp wristed liberals we may be, but if repubs want to start this ridiculous finger pointing, your heroes Bush and bush jr. Will go down too.

  • 6 votes
#1.75 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:48 PM EDT
Comment author avatarstarsailingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

WHY DID REPUBLICONS JUST VOTE AGAINST A JOBS BILL TO HELP VETERANS?

BUSH SENDS OUR SOLDIERS INTO IRAQ WAR ON A LIE OF wmd'S IN IRAQ, WHEN IT REALLY WAS FOR WAR PROFITS IN NO BID CONTRACTS FOR CHENEY'S COMPANY HALIBURTON.

Now our soldiers are returning, wounded, and dying from their wounds, their lives turned upside down because of multiple deployments, and what do the war profiteers do to them? They turn their backs on vets and vote against them. Our vets are commiting suicide at a record rate, and repubs vote against our troops. With all the money the greedy rich made from war profits, you think that those Greedy rich would ask repubs to pass the jobs bill for vets.....Nope not a chance. Romney did not speak up, Ryan did not speak up for our vets.

Republicans tell our vets that come home that they are the 47% they don't care about.

Soldiers and vets vote for President Obama/Biden and Team democratic America 2012, they have your backs when it is your turn to be protected!

  • 8 votes
#1.76 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:49 PM EDT

The Cairo newspaper had it on the front page before it happened so why didn't Lyin Joe Biden and his inept white house cronies know it? When you add up all the mistakes by the white house including the green billions $$$$$ there is only one solution. The whole administration is incompetent. I don't think they are able to do a cover up. When the assassinations by terrorists occurred they said let's say it was the movie and thougth not only Americans but the entire world was stupid enough to believe them. Not so fast there...we saw the lie immediately. Any body watching TV saw it was not a demonstraton.

Poor Bubba he thought in 2016 he was going to be first man and his wife just let another man throw her under the bus. Wait until Romney wins the election and watch the pardons come flying out of Obama's mouth! Sorry Bubba, no more white house maid chasing for you.

  • 28 votes
#1.77 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:49 PM EDT

"Everybody should pull together as Americans."

Yes Hillary we will but first you have to tell the President to admit that he dropped the ball because of his lack of leadership. I can imagine how Ambassador Stevens felt, no help from the White House even though he requested help. So sad.

  • 27 votes
#1.78 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:49 PM EDT

Our secretary of state failed in her duty to keep our ambassador, Chris Stevens, safe. He is dead. The big question is who told our UN ambassador to very officially announce something to the American people that was not true and why was such an announcement made. If everyone tells the truth and there is nothing to hide then a few phone calls should come up with the answer but apparently there is something to hide because the answer has yet to be discovered. What is the administration hiding? Where is the transparency that the President has promised?

  • 23 votes
#1.79 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:50 PM EDT
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Catydid: Morons to you because they make sense unlike the usual LIB vomitus spewed out on this Liberal rag?

HUGE eyeroll back to you for your pathetic attept to muddy the water with BUSH from 2001, no less. Why don't you blame HIM for this...you don't seem to agree it is totally owned by Obama/Clinton.

  • 19 votes
#1.82 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:55 PM EDT

Seriuosly what we need to do is just this: Take the country Pakistan for instance and supply them with funding for eductation and a well stepped up security. Let them deal with their problems inside their own country. And let the world know that 10,000 troops will land there if anyone attempts to harm them in any way. Its that simple to send a message that we are invested in the peoples future in Pakistan plain and simple.

And I don't mean 10,000 troops to attack another country I mean 10,000 troops to defend and insure the peace of the people of Pakistan. You can either do right and exspect good results or do a half ass job and exspect half ass results. You have to first educate people and let them decide freely what to do with all that they have learned always. And then let the good and the bad weed themselves out naturally.

    #1.83 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:55 PM EDT

    Please, if you want to blame Bush, have at it. The topic currently is the attacks in Benghazi, and the lies that the administration persisted in. Now, had Obama not used the video excuse over and over, addressing the UN council with the same lie, telling his team to repeat the lie and not giving any time away from campaigning to attend to the death of an American Ambassador or appearing on Letterman and the View and prancing around with Beyonce et al, perhaps there is room to make excuses, but only if you're a 'limp wristed liberal' who apparently would forgive Obama ANYTHING so long as you believe he will follow your agenda.

    • 26 votes
    #1.84 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:57 PM EDT

    Catydid, thank you for posting. The Bushes are no longer President. Neither of them were responsible for telling the UN Ambassador to officially announce something to the American people that was not the truth. I have never before heard our UN Ambassador make an official announcement to the American people. There is something wrong knows and I am sure that the President must know the details but in the name of the transparency that he promised, he is not coming forward.

    • 21 votes
    #1.85 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:00 AM EDT

    The final Board of Directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge in 2001 were:[46]

    1. Patricia Albjerg Graham
    2. Barack Obama

    The founding members of Chicago School Reform Collaborative announced in 1995 were:[38]

    William Ayers

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Annenberg_Challenge

    Some don't trust wikipedia much but it at least agrees with some of what flame thrower says.

    • 13 votes
    #1.86 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:01 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarstarsailingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    ROMNEY THE DRAFT DODGER RAN AWAY TO FRANCE WHEN IT WAS HIS TURN TO FIGHT FOR AMERICA.

    NOW ROMNEY WANTS YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS, YOU HUSBAND AND WIFE, YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER TO GO FIGHT ANYWHERE FOR MORE WAR PROFITS!

    That's right, Romney liked the Bush Cheney team and how they made war profits for their buddies , now Romney wants in on the action. Romney hired 17 of 24 advisers from the Bush Cheney Rove cabinet specifically to destroy the economy and make more profits from the crash like the greedy rich did under Bush Cheney Rove. stop the country from going backwards with Bush/Cheney/Rove/Romney/Ryan.

    Vote for President Obama/Biden 2012and help keep the country moving forward!!!

    • 4 votes
    #1.87 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

    And what branch did Obama serve in? really?

    • 21 votes
    #1.88 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:11 AM EDT

    Seriously? You nutty leftists actually THINK that Mr. Bush had intelligence prior to 9/11 which indicated the targets, the methods, or the date, of the upcoming attacks? Okay, I'll bite, but with a caveat. Show me ANY evidence which supports your insane idea and I will vote for this useless failure we have now, Mr. Obama. The evidence cannot be the rantings of similarly nutty fools, but must be the kind of evidence claimed above--intelligence reports.

    So, if you aren't liars, and I think you are liars, then you should easily be able to provide the proof you claim exists.

    • 26 votes
    #1.89 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:11 AM EDT

    You have a serious problem staying on the topic of the story starsailing!!!!!!This article is about Hillary Clinton taking the blame for the TRAVESTY that happened to The Ambassador and 3 others. Romney is not in office ,YET. GET OVER YOURSELF!!!!

    • 12 votes
    #1.90 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:14 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarstarsailingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    When Embassies & Consulates were being attacked during the Bush years, where was the outrage from the Right?
    2002 - June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

    2003 - May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

    2004 - May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including 1 American.

    June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.

    Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

    2005 - Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

    2006 - Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy is foiled.

    2007 - Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.

    Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.

    2008 - May 26, Iraq: a suicide bomber on a motorcycle kills six U.S. soldiers and wounds 18 others in Tarmiya.

    June 24, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills at least 20 people, including three U.S. Marines, at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.

    June 12, Afghanistan: four American servicemen are killed when a roadside bomb explodes near a U.S. military vehicle in Farah Province.

    July 13, Afghanistan: nine U.S.soldiers and at least 15 NATO troops die when Taliban militants boldly attack an American base in Kunar Province, which borders Pakistan. It's the most deadly against U.S. troops in three years.

    Aug. 18 and 19, Afghanistan: as many as 15 suicide bombers backed by about 30 militants attack a U.S. military base, Camp Salerno, in Bamiyan. Fighting between U.S. troops and members of the Taliban rages overnight. No U.S. troops are killed.

    Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.

    Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai's landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans.
    Source: answers at yahoo.com

    • 3 votes
    #1.91 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:16 AM EDT

    starsailing

    Why do you insist on defending failure?

    • 23 votes
    #1.92 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:17 AM EDT

    Starsailing is deeply and profoundly enamoured of Obama and like any lover, will defend his beloved against any and all accusations, regardless of the truth.

    • 29 votes
    #1.93 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:21 AM EDT

    They had requested security for Tripoli not Benghazi, which is 400 miles away.

    • 3 votes
    #1.95 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:27 AM EDT

    Even better than the "save the emporer" ramblings is the "don't judge us for being failures" B.S.:

    "Rather than focusing on who to blame for the attacks, the State Department stayed "focused not on why something happened that was for the intelligence community to determine, but what was happening and could happen,” Clinton said. “We did everything we could to keep our people safe, which is my primary responsibility.”"

    Really? "focused NOT ON WHY it happened"?... Yet they issued statements condemning a YouTube video AND purchased airtime on Libya TV to have the condemnation of free speech replayed there?

    The first attempt to cover up the administration's utter incompetence by misdirection failed, so welcome to Plan B - "The sacrificial lamb" (Hillary).

    P.S.

    Wonder how all of the female Democrat sheep are feeling about now? Hillary just got shoved under the bus to protect the man pushing her... and Hillary without question is more competent than B.O.


    • 18 votes
    #1.97 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:30 AM EDT

    starsailing, 0123456789, Catydid

    Your NON Factual Spam is already DISCREDITED at post #1.64.

    US Ambassador is a Political Appointee of the US President with Direct Access to the US President.

    SOS Clinton "Funding was not an Issue".

    OBAMA LIED US AMBASSADOR DIED.

    • 29 votes
    #1.98 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:35 AM EDT

    "a tragedy like this should be viewed in a non-political way", SAY WHAT? The embassy asks for more security, doesn't get it and four Americans die including our Ambassedor because of a lame incompetent Whitehouse and we should view it in a "non-Political way".

    Give me a freekin break. If a Republican Whitehouse had this happen the Democrats would be marching on the white house lawn with pitchforks and baseball bats, to say the least.

    Then to cook up a big lie and send some lacky out to build on that lie. They all should be tried for deriliction of duty not just voted out.

    • 19 votes
    #1.99 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:43 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarstarsailingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Bush...murderer in chief of U.S. troops

    Romney coward in chief ran away to France then says he wished he could have been a part of Viet Nam war, all the coward had to do was sign up!

    Romney says too costly to go after Bin Laden and would not do it. Flip Flops after Obama killed Bin Laden and Mittster says he would have made the same decision. Coward and liar in chief.

    Republican Chickenhawks in chiefs....everyone except Bush Sr who called his son a traiter, saying the person who outed Valerie CIA agent was a traitor!!!!!

    WHERE IS THE RT WING OUTRAGE OF ROMNEY HIRING BUSH TEAM OF FAILURE AND MURDERING OF OUR TROOPS FOR WAR PROFITS?

    • 3 votes
    #1.100 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:52 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarstarsailingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    RYAN PLAN ......TAKE FOOD STAMPS AWAY FROM STARVING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO PAY FOR TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH.

    Where is the rt wing outrage when Ryan and Romney say to starving children and families, you are the 47% go ahead and starve while we put money in offshore accounts.

    Romney plan to protect embassies would be to send all the starving children there and line them up all around embassy as shields.

    All rt wingers believe in UNICORNS! Why is that?

    • 3 votes
    #1.101 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:59 AM EDT

    Marbles

    Although Hilary Clinton is responsible for the Security of the Embassies, How do we know that she was not under duress from the White House to not put more security in Libya?

    The Narrative has been that things are getting safer in the Middle East. Who's to say the requests were denied to keep the narrative in tact.

    What came out earlier today was that there was $2.2 Billion available to upgrade security at embassies. The budget did not specify how much money of the budget was allocated to Embassy Security. That is done at the discretion of the White House. So, while the budget was cut, what got cut was the discretion of the White House and State Department.

    • 8 votes
    #1.102 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:27 AM EDT

    US intelligence admits Syria arms aid goes to Al Qaeda

    By Bill Van Auken
    16 October 2012

    American Intelligence officials are acknowledging that the bulk of the weapons flowing into Syria for the US-backed war to topple the regime of Bashar al-Assad are going into the hands of Al Qaeda and like-minded Islamist militias.

    A lead article appearing in the New York Times Monday confirms the mounting reports from the region that jihadist elements are playing an increasingly prominent role in what has become a sectarian civil war in Syria.

    “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats,” the Times reports.

    The article reflects the growing disquiet within US ruling circles over the Obama administration’s strategy in Syria and, more broadly, in the Middle East, and adds fuel to the deepening foreign policy crisis confronting the Democratic president with just three weeks to go until the election…

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/oct2012/syri-o16.shtml

    • 9 votes
    #1.103 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:28 AM EDT

    Iwonder@ 1.86: Better to explain your reference...but I will now. This info' is verifying from Wipikedia about Factchecker.org...which CLAIMS to be non-partisan, but in fact has STRONG liberal, even radical ties...which certainly blows their non-partisan claim!

    I am asking everyone who loves to cite ANY factcheckers these days if their "factchecker" has been factchecked! So much left media snuck in EVERYWHERE...it's beyond irresponsible.

    Feel free to check out my post above @ 1.72 for more info' about this.

    • 9 votes
    #1.104 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:32 AM EDT

    From New York Times:

    "...The disorganization is strengthening the hand of Islamic extremist groups in Syria, some with ties or affiliations with Al Qaeda, he said: "The longer this goes on, the more likely those groups will gain strength."..."

    Rebel Arms Flow Is Said to Benefit Jihadists in Syria

    By DAVID E. SANGER

    Published: October 14, 2012 120 Comments

    WASHINGTON — Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats.

    That conclusion, of which President Obama and other senior officials are aware from classified assessments of the Syrian conflict that has now claimed more than 25,000 lives, casts into doubt whether the White House's strategy of minimal and indirect intervention in the Syrian conflict is accomplishing its intended purpose of helping a democratic-minded opposition topple an oppressive government, or is instead sowing the seeds of future insurgencies hostile to the United States….

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/world/middleeast/jihadists-receiving-most-arms-sent-to-syrian-rebels.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    • 8 votes
    #1.105 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:33 AM EDT

    Of course, why would she tell the truth when she will lose her job if she does.

    • 12 votes
    #1.106 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:11 AM EDT

    Hillary takes her Sec. of State Job seriously. She sincerely cares about what happened.

    Sometimes, a crisis like this will fall thru the cracks. What are they supposed to do?---it happened.

    The people who were killed is tragic. My condolences to all families that had family members murdered.

    Al-Qaeda was hell bent on getting September 11th, 2001 going again. They think they are in charge---we need Obama to smack them with harsh words, and start calling them Terrorists, not "Killers".

    We must keep our people safe in these Barbaric Countries---they have probably all learned a lesson about saving Americans first, as they do their dangerous jobs in rogue Countries.

    • 3 votes
    #1.107 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:24 AM EDT

    OK< What ever, One thing that really makes me sick is that we do give Billions of dollars of aid and still we are attacked and our American people killed. Enough is Enough.

    • 12 votes
    #1.108 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:24 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarUncle Bob 512Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    The thing is that all you Republican Romney supporters posting here don't really give a rats ass about this tragedy in itself. You just want to play politics over the tragic deaths of Americans,period. None of you were posting outrage when the same type of thing happened under a Republican President. You just see it now as an opportunity to attack President Obama. Just like Romney trying to make hay off the hero Seal's death,until his Mother told him to cut it out. You guys are the kind of people like in the saying "they would steal the pennies off a dead mans eyes". You all know that the request for extra security was for the EMBASSY in Tripoli only. It wouldn't have been in Benghazi anyway.And so far all your fake Congressional "bi-partisan" hearings have done is out a secret CIA base in the region.Messing with out nations ability to defend ourselves. I would say you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. But your party has shown they have no shame.

    • 5 votes
    #1.109 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:25 AM EDT

    don't you talk about this being political. you damn right it is political, it was political when nixon had to resign for a small break in called watergate. I watched the congressional hearings and there was no slacking from the committee. the press wrote everyday about nixon getting out of office. what the hell is the press today doing...not a gawddamn thing. nothing. there is only two ways this is going, clinton is going to take the heat for a rumdumb president, or there has been a major deal between the both of them. and I will take the latter. this is the biggest cover-up in our hstory of the US.

    • 7 votes
    #1.110 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:14 AM EDT
    JBufordDeleted

    "I really believe that tragedies like what happened in Benghazi should be viewed in a non-political way," Clinton continued. "Everybody should pull together as Americans."

    Like the way you and Barry did?

    Non-political….as in falsely blaming Republicans?

    In testimony Wednesday before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Charlene Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, was asked, “Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

    Lamb responded, “No, sir.”

    Where was Hillary when they BEGGED for more security???

    SHAME SHAME SHAME! She KNEW!

    Rather than focusing on who to blame for the attacks, the State Department stayed "focused not on why something happened that was for the intelligence community to determine, but what was happening and could happen,” Clinton said. “We did everything we could to keep our people safe, which is my primary responsibility.”

    Because they don’t want FURTHER digging to find out it was WORSE that we were told? If this was BUSH, she would be calling for BLOOD!

    Liar! If you did EVERYTHING, you would have provided the security they ASKED for and they would still be alive!

    • 14 votes
    #1.112 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:55 AM EDT

    Mr. Obama can not take responsibility for anything, So now Hillary Clinton has to step forward for him and take the blame for the lack of security in Libya leading up to the terrorist planned assassination hit on our Ambassador and 3 other Americans and the theft of sensitive security information. Not to mention the lies about it afterwards. No wonder women are leaving Obama in droves. Women don't like spineless weenies. Let alone disengaged spineless weenies.

    • 11 votes
    #1.113 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:59 AM EDT

    "We did everything we could", except give them the appropriate level of security when it was requested and after several attacks had taken place before this one. Now stop asking questions, Barack has a campaign to run and he is doing a piss poor job, so we don't need anybody else messing this up by asking more questions.

    BTW, who is the "we", does that include the President, or is he disengaged and uninformed?

    • 10 votes
    #1.114 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:06 AM EDT

    This Obama regime never ceases to amaze me. They say, let's just all work together so that this never happens again. LMFAO!! They never accept responsibility for anything! Imagine if this happened while Bush was prez. Does anyone with a half a brain really think the liberals would give him a break? Using Clinton's logic, the Bush handling of Katrina should have never been investigated.

    • 9 votes
    #1.115 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:13 AM EDT

    what a trooper hillary is! obama lies and spreads mistruths about her during the last election and now she falls on her sword for him. is anything ever his fault? i own a small buisness and i thought who would i want to expand and build my company? that would be romney. now who would i want for a pr guy you know entertain clients take them out and play golf shoot hoops joke around travel never spend any time in the office someone who is good at bs this would be obama!

    • 6 votes
    #1.116 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:19 AM EDT

    And the central questions remain unanswered. Why did Obama send Susan Rice out to lie on all the Sunday shows? Why did Mr. Obama himself make such a big deal of the video when he knew it had nothing to do with the attack? why did he and Hillary spend tax payer dollars to make an apology commercial about the video and never mention the terrorist attack in it ? Why has Mr. Obama failed to address the nation about the terrorist attack on 9/11? And last, but not least, WHY IS MR> OBAMA SP DAMN INCOMPETENT OR IS HE PURPOSELY HIDING THE FULL TRUTH TO PROTECT HIS CAMPAIGN?

    I never thought I would see the day when a President would use a cover story, concocted by terrorist to cover an assassination hit on 9/11, to keep the truth from the American people in an effort to keep his self interest protected. It is and always has been all about the campaign for Obama. It is disgusting to dishonor our men that died in our service by lying about what happened, because Mr. Obama didn't want the public to know the truth before the election.

    • 9 votes
    #1.117 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:21 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarDisabled VoterExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Two days of mindless dribble of nothing more than blatant distraction.

    Why does the GOP want to move the discussion away from a recovering economy to U.S. foreign policy that has remained essentially unchanged for decades?

    Some people will never get beyond the propaganda.

    It's the economy stupid! That's unless the economy doesn't happen to be so bad that you cannot sell your lies to improve it!

    • 3 votes
    #1.118 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:35 AM EDT

    Feisty(of course nowhere to be seen today) and the little group that bands around her are every bit the coward as the man they worship, Obama. Obama couldn't be a responsible man and face the heat so he is having Hillary do it for him.

    • 13 votes
    #1.119 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:39 AM EDT

    A good indication of how much interest there is in a story is the rate that new comments are being made even after NBCNEWS moves it away from the top spot. Obviously there's much interest in this story. And from the beginning the Obama people were saying that this is only an issue because the Republicans and Fox News were were making it an issue. Aren't you glad the Republicans and Fox News made this an issue?

    • 9 votes
    #1.120 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:44 AM EDT

    Only an Obama supporter would call questions about an assassination terrorist attack on 9/11, that resulted in the death of our Ambassador and 3 other Americans and the thef of sensitive security information. subsequently downplayed and attempted to be covered up by lies from the President and members of his administration "mindless dribble" The only thing mindless is YOU

    • 9 votes
    #1.121 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:45 AM EDT

    Obama will do anything to throw someone else under the train rather than man up! But I suppose throwing Hilary under the train is not such a bad thing, she's done anyway. I mean just look at her, is this someone that we want to represent us? She looks tired, very tired.

    Another thing; Obama keeps saying he inherited all these problems, the national debt, the national economy, unemployment etc. but yet he ran for office saying how he was going to fix everything with his 'Hope and Change' BS ......... Hey man, you campaigned for the job, made a lot of promises that you couldn't keep and it all backfired on you, again, be a man and man-up, you would gain some of the respect you want but don't deserve.

    You also said that if you couldn't get it done, you're a one term president, be a man of your word and again, man-up, so far you've done nothing but jump on Air Force One at $186,000 per hour to catch a basketball game and whisk you Michelle and Oprah off to see if you could get the Olympics to come to Chicago, another blundered failure at the American's expense, sounds like it's time to man-up and get out bro'.

    One and done .........

    • 11 votes
    #1.122 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:47 AM EDT

    Perhaps if the Obama Administration hadn't been apologizing for the "Innocence of Muslims" we could have compartmentalized the damage faster.

    • 3 votes
    #1.123 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

    From his own grandmother, to Hillary, O'bama has now thrown nearly everybody under the bus. I wonder what they offered her to fall onto the sword. One thing is for sure, she does not aspire to be President any longer.

    • 11 votes
    #1.124 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:15 AM EDT

    President Obama and Team America took out Bin Laden when republicons could not and would not.

    VOTE PRESIDENT OBAMA AND TEAM AMERICA 2012!!!!!

    Starsailing, you conveniently left off the part....USING INTELLIGENCE THAT BUSH GOT!

    That Barry voted AGAINST!

    Yeah, Bin Laden is dead...and Al Qaida is ALIVE!

    • 14 votes
    #1.125 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:22 AM EDT

    Can we say "Fall guy"??? She reports directly to the President and, with 9-11 coming up and in a country we HELPED overthrow their gov't...we were not concerned about terror? And she didn't happen to mention this to Obama? Either she wilfully kept it from Obama OR Obama is neglegent for not asking about it.

    This wouldn't have happened if we kept our nose out of the Libyan's business to begin with and let them deal with their country and not assisted the terrorists in taking over the gov't... These people in the middle east overthrow their dictators who allow freedom of religion and keep the peace...only to install Sharia law and oppression of all religions that are not the religion of "peace".

    • 5 votes
    #1.126 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:29 AM EDT

    Make no mistake about it, the anti-American activity in the Muslim world is a direct result of Obama's psychology. For whatever reason, Barack Obama feels an unnatural compulsion to protect Islam from perceived "insults". We saw this in his attempts to intercede on behalf of the planners of the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque" near the site of what was the World Trade Center, and we see it in the many comments he has made to the Islamic world and to Americans. Unfortunately, those Islamic leaders intent on harming us are smarter than we generally think they are, and they have shrewdly developed strategies to utilize Obama's emotional vulnerability for this purpose, thus they invented the Youtube video pretext specifically to appeal to Obama's vulnerability and Obama himself is unfortunately only too eager to be played in this manner. The denial of necessary security to the Benghazi compound is directly related to this "Obama Doctrine", which is intent on convincing the world that America trusts the good intentions of Islam.

    There's no doubt in my mind that Obama is doing this because he has the good intentions of promoting one of the world's major religions (Islam) as benevolent. He himself is not a Muslim, but he has this psychological need. In the process of acting upon his "good intentions", his doctrine makes Americans vulnerable, and he mounts a bizarre cover-up to the September 11 Islamic celebratory attacks against Americans. We haven't seen even the tip of the iceberg on this. If the "Obama Doctrine" is successful, Iran could (God forbid) be celebrating future September 11's in an even bigger way.

    It's sad that all the hopes and optimism that many Americans had for our first multi-racial president come down to this shameful attempt by Obama to mislead the American people.

    • 6 votes
    #1.127 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:38 AM EDT

    What's so sad about is group is they are all liars, Intelligence was in place and were warned. Hillary doesn't know what a truth is...and thinks we are ALL stupid enough to believe her lies...

    These four men are dead and they were on watch for our country, and we are responsible for their lives' and safety!

    • 5 votes
    #1.128 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

    We have tens of thousands of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq doing absolutely nothing good for our country, but we can't protect our own embassies and diplomats because we do not have enough security staff??? Washington DC is full of TRAITORS!

    • 6 votes
    #1.129 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:44 AM EDT

    O'bama has ruined the chance for women to have thier first President. He has manipulated Hillary! At least women might get free birth control. I suppose that makes it ok.

    • 4 votes
    #1.130 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

    Totally amazing. Obama sends Clinton out to accept the blame for the failures of his administration. The bottom line is that this administration built their entire foreign policy on Bin Laden is dead and al-Quaida is impotent. A week or so later four Americans are dead and so is the Obama foreign policy. The DNC then does everything they can to deflect the blame until after the elections.

    Obama gets up and blames the spontaneous terrorist attacks on a Web film. He then blames the State Department and intelligence on not giving him the proper information. Really? I sure that he gets intelligence information on a daily basis. Unfortunately he choose to ignore facts and rely on his fantasy of the middle east and watches his whole foreign policy unravel. In this scenario people died.

    Who sent the UN ambassador out to spin a tale about what they knew was a lie? Why did it take weeks for the POTUS to get the facts about what actually happened in Libya because it didn't. Does the POTUS really want us to believe that he was not immediately informed about an attack on the US consulate? He knew full well what happened but he choose to just lie to protect his foreign policy failure.

    The more information that comes out the more we are learning about the character of the man in charge. We don't need a TALKING HEAD playing the role of the POTUS. We need a person that understand that it is a dangerous world and protecting this country is his/her primary objective.

    How can we take this guy seriously any more? The Libs can try and spin this anyway the want but the fact is that people died because of this president's fantasies.

    • 6 votes
    #1.131 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

    Where's the RESIGNATION?

    • 8 votes
    #1.132 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:02 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarstarsailingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    ROMNEY FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE SEND THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN JOBS OVERSEAS TO AID CHINA!

    ROMNEY FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE TAKE PROFITS FROM OVERSEAS AND HIDE THEM IN oFFSHORE ACCOUNTS TO AVOID BEING AN AMERICAN. REAL AMERICANS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES.

    WHY DO REPUBLICANS HATE AMERICAN WORKERS?

    Romney's company Bain is shipping more jobs to china as we speak. Those workers who lost their jobs contacted Romney's office. Romney refuses to do anything to save those America jobs. Romney will profit from this company sending those jobs to China.

    Republicons block the vote on 7-19-12 that would end those tax breaks for Romney's company that is now taking those jobs to China. Republicons fully responsible for loing those American jobs once again.

    Republicons block the vote to 7-19-12 to give tax breaks to those companies that would bring those jobs back to America. Republicons responsible for blocking jobs that could have come back to America!

    • 2 votes
    #1.133 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:05 AM EDT

    PAUL RYAN FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE, I CAN SEE MILWAUKEE FROM MY WINDOW!

    The only foreign policy experience Paul Ryan wants to know about is when he helps to end capital gains taxes on Romne'ys money, which offshore account can Ryan hide his money in like Romney does!

    • 2 votes
    #1.134 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:11 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarstarsailingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    ROMNEY HIRES 17 OF 24 BUSH ADVISERS FOR HIS TEAM. THEIR CAMPAIGN SLOGAN IS " 4 MORE WARS!

    Yes the same people that helped Bush/Cheney fail in Afghanistan by letting Bin Laden escape, then helped Bush/Cheney set up lie for going into Iraq for more war profits.

    Why vote for the same team that sent thousands of our troops to their death for war profits?

    Why vote for the same team that caused thousands of troops to be wounded and still dying from those wounds, just so they could get war profits for Cheney's company haliburton with no bid contracts?

    Why vote for the same team that put 2 wars on the American credit card and helped to cause the economy to crash?

    ROMNEY/RYAN/BUSH/CHENEY/ROVE/NORQUIST THE TEAM THAT VALUES $$$$ OVER AMERICAN LIVES!

    • 2 votes
    #1.135 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

    Hey Starsailing....O'bama sucks!

    • 10 votes
    #1.136 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:21 AM EDT
    JBufordDeleted

    Mainebound For the misinformed posters above, Ryan DID vote to cut the spending that would increase security, budget submitted went from 135 million to over 300, and Ryan said no way.... Do YOUR fact checking Reps... Teabags belong in hot water... sheesh

    Before you start referring to "misinformed" poster you first might be informed about the topic, which you are not. The amount approved for fiscal year 2012 was $264 million less than "requested", and covers construction and maintenance, not just security. It was not cut, it was increased, but not increased to the amount Obama proposed in his Budget. Obama requested $1.8 billion for embassy security, construction and maintenance for the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30. The House came back with a proposal to cut his request to $1.425 billion. Ultimately, the House agreed to increase funding to $1.537 billion after they negotiations with the Senate. Which was an INCREASE from the previous year, but less than Obama requested. So get your facts straight.

    Why should it have been increased anyway? It shouldn't have. What should have happened is they should have pulled security from France. Ask yourself a simple commonsense question, why does the State Department have more security in a Country we have no problems with then a country this President decided to change leadership in without really knowing who or what the next leadership groups were. After two attacks, why didn't they pull most of the security from France and place them in Libya. You are also aware they have 21,000 security detail in Iraq of which 6000 are in Baghdad. That's not counting the Troops we still have there. Why didn't they pull at least 2000 from Iraq after the first attack, and certainly after the 2nd attach far before the 9/11 anniversary.

    Also, you can tought the security budget all you want, but they should have had Marines guarding that Embassy, especially after two known previous attacks, which falls under the DOD budget.

    They had plenty of funds to secure that Embassy. You can find excuses all you want, but this Administration didn't just make a small mistake, they have made a HUGE tactical error. Total incompetence from the State Dept up to the President. It is so clear that winning an election was far more important then protecting American lives.

    • 4 votes
    #1.138 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

    How about we stay on topic and with the facts:

    A report came out yesterday that the State Dept. is sitting on about $100 million that was intended for upgrades to embassies around the world (security upgrades, staffing, etc.). The analysis was that they haven't been spending it because they don't want it to seem like we have reasons to upgrade our overseas embassies. Thus, "We did all we could" is clearly incorrect.

    Simlarly, they are now saying that there was a drone watching the event unfolding and sending video back to the states. So why didn't anyone know what happened when there was actually video of the event?!?!

    Another thing that has come out is that the ambassador did request additional support and security, the State Dept. did put out some warnings of 9/11 attack potentials, and that the State Department knew that Al Queda is growing in Libya and mobilizing. Where is the "we didn't know" moment? If you were collecting information for months leading up to the attack and knew that the threat level was rising (maybe not having a specific plan exposed), wouldn't you make the required adjustments?

    Now Hillary is taking the blame for a month of miscues regarding the event. I think it's clear that she's doing so to reduce the punches against the President in the last month of election season. Funny thing, she's now saying that the "buck stops here". So what's the President to do? If Hillary didn't provide the leadership, then he should ask for her resignation. Mind you that she's already said that she won't be sticking around next term, so that's pretty much not an issue. It will be interesting how the President chooses to address the topic from this point forward (point fingers toward Hillary? admit that it was a terrorist attack? say that the State Dept. is dealing with it as is the Congressional committee investigating the attack- that won't have any results until after the election?).

    I think it's clear that the situation was boloxed up from about a year before the attack, that embassy protocol was working against us (no ammo in weapons, no upgrades, reduced security, don't look offensive(PC)), and when things blew up the administration didn't know what to do about it but attempt to deflect the situation and cover it up. No matter who's administration does this it's bad for the country, our representatives, and our foreign policy. Just for argument- let's say that the attacks on our embassies were met with force (people breached the walls and were met with defensive weapons and a few were killed). How would the President react? How would the Press react? If there was a Republican in office- how would it have been dealt with in the press, etc.?

    • 2 votes
    #1.139 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

    'Starsailing'

    We are between a rock and a dark hole, but this dark hole has lied, cheated, stolen, lied, cheated, threatened, lied, cheated, betrayed his own countrymen and women, oh he's all for killing innocent babies, whose lives' will never be.....did I mention he is a liar, traitor, thief, and one of the most dangerous men in the world, while betraying ALL AMERICAN'S...through his lying, cheating, etc...

    American's Eyes are now open, Romney will be held in check!!! This other piece of $hit needs to be flushed back to where he came from!!!

    • 3 votes
    #1.140 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:37 AM EDT

    Clinton does not want to assign blame for the lack of security because her own name would be at the top of the list! Go figure.

    • 3 votes
    #1.141 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:43 AM EDT

    So far the only excuses I have seen from the Obama supporters in response to this tragedy is:

    A) The reupublicans cut funding for embassy security (what they dont mention is that the funding was piggy backed on additional legistlation which was bad for the country. Additionally, that voting would not have stopped the administration from being able to send military members to guard the Americans on the ground in Libya and any Dem who argues that money is the reason is lying and basically assuming that you are all stupid.)

    or B) That the fact that the administration left Americans to die with no security in Libya isn't bad because the Republicans let 9/11 happen. (These people are just nuts and no intelligent person should entertain these conspiracy theorists. The people who believe that 9/11 is the republican's fault are the same people who probably believe the moon landing was staged and that the JFK assassination was an inside job. 9/11 happened because the different intelligence agencies in the government were not allowed to share information with each other. this policy was set forth before Bush took office.)

    What I have not heard is any sort of real justification as to why the security request was denied for a consulate which obviously should have been a security priority, seeing that it was in the middle of a radical islamist country that had just experienced a bloody civil war. Not to mention the dozens of attacks that had already been carried out against western forces in the area this year. I have also heard no justification for the repeated LIES by the administration during the weeks following the attack, blaming the violence on some Youtube video no one even heard of until the animals started rioting in Cairo. The American people deserve real answers from this administration and should not be kept in the dark and lied to any longer.

    • 7 votes
    #1.142 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

    I think Hillary Clinton is right. This should not be a political thing, although everyone wants to make it political because it is an election year. There is more than enough blame to go around if you want to make it political because attacks on U.S. embassies are not rare, and Republicans have had more than their share. There was an attack on the U.S. Embassy in Ankara, Turkey in 1957 under Eisenhower. There were 2 embassy attacks under Ford, 8 under Reagan, 2 under Bush, Sr., and 12 embassy attacks under Bush, Jr. I think if you research the matter, you will find that there have been more attacks on U.S. embassies under Republican administrations than under Democratic ones.

    • 2 votes
    #1.143 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:13 AM EDT

    I cant believe Hillary is making herself the sacrificial lamb…and Bill is allowing this?

    This goes MUCH deeper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DIG PEOPLE, DIG!!!

    • 6 votes
    #1.144 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:30 AM EDT

    Mickey, it is political only because it speaks to Barry's complete incompetence or his lack of character due to lying to cover it up - choose one. Barry has made this an issue, not the Republicans. Had Barry been competent and truthful there would be no issue.

    @ Ed-navdoc:

    Barry's name is at the top of the list. No excuses, either he is incompetent and didn't know or he is lying.

    • 6 votes
    #1.145 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:33 AM EDT

    Somebody needs to help hillary explain it to her boss - obama. He and his supporters have been blaming W for the "security breach" that resulted in the little incident on September 11. But when there is a security breach on his watch it is the state dept's fault.

    Something tells me that she is not only throwing in the towel as far as "accepting" blame for obama but that she has had enough of his BS and will not continue as SoS past the elections. She thinks it should be non-political when it has been every bit political as of yet. It was her boss that came out with the lame excuse of it being a youtube video. How can that be - western youtube videos aren't allowed in that stone-age country.

    • 3 votes
    #1.146 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:43 AM EDT

    Chuck in Olathe,

    "Mickey, it is political only because it speaks to Barry's complete incompetence"

    And what about the 12 embassy attacks under the presidency of Bush, Jr.? I don't see any particular incompetence in the Obama administration in this Benghazi attack. Where is that "incompetence" supposed to lie?

    • 1 vote
    #1.147 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:43 AM EDT

    Mickey, you're missing the point. Bush is not up for re-election, Barry is.

    People that care about things like honesty, character, reliablity, trust - not to mention competency - are wondering about the community organizer that couldn't. Couldn't lead a country, couldn't deliver on his promises, couldn't be bothered to attend security meetings - and now couldn't complete simple tasks that would have protected the very lives he took an oath to protect. Barry couldn't even be honest about what happened. He has proven for four years that regardless of the rest of his failings, he will never own up to his responsibilities - he will always blame someone else, he will always be untrustworthy.

    HE LIED.

    • 5 votes
    #1.148 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

    Mickey, the incompetence comes from his avoidance of responsibilty - not attending security briefings, his inability to understand the few briefings he attended where he could have heard the security needs, his inablity to act on known dangers.

    Three choices, Barry is incompetent or a liar - or an incompetent liar.

    Remeber Watergate? Nobody died at Watergate.

    • 4 votes
    #1.149 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

    Want to thank ALL THOSE who collapsed my comment above!! PROVES my point and the TRUTH you can't deal with. BOTH CLITOON and THEOBAMA are just as responsible for the MURDERS of our people ---just as GUILITY as if they pulled the trigger!

    POSTED ABOVE----

    WHAT a pathetic LIAR----just like the OBAMANATION !! THEY BOTH knew about the dangers that OUR PEOPLE WERE IN......in some cases as far back as JULY.

    OBAMA had the INTEL in 2 cases 5 DAYS prior to the attack and 72 HOURS from a LIBYIAN INTEL OFFICER----THIS is ABOUT covering up for the PILE of CRAP ---LIAR in CHIEF!!
    WORD to THE LIAR in our WHITE HOUSE---TIME to GET OUT OF OUR WHITE HOUSE!

    BOTH Clitoon and the obama are just as GUILTY of MURDER as are those who pulled the trigger---ROMNEY needs to tell HIS AG to bring charges on these two traitors and ALL OTHERS involved!

    OBAMA YOU are a TOTAL FAILURE and a STUPID LIAR---TIME for you to PACK it in and get out of OUR WHITE HOUSE and OUR COUNTRY!

    • 58 votes

    #1.57 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:19 PM EDT

    • 4 votes
    #1.150 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

    jscusme69 - Just getting him out of the White House will be enough.

    As for getting your comments collapsed -

    Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.
    William F. Buckley, Jr.

    • 5 votes
    #1.151 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:18 AM EDT

    so why do dems keep trying to compare their mistakes with the repubs? it does not make the mistakes or ineptness they show any better it's like children claiming the other child did it. what ever happened in the past should not make it okay for the dems to try and throw blame to make their illogical views ok. I for one do not want a socialist america and am sick of other countries not respecting our great nation.

    • 5 votes
    #1.152 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:25 AM EDT

    Chuck in Olathe,

    "Mickey, you're missing the point. Bush is not up for re-election, Barry is."

    No, Chuck. I think it is you who are missing the point. I said in my original post (#1.143) that the only reason people want to make this a political thing is because it is an election year. Republicans are desperately grasping at anything and everything they can find to use to attack the Obama administration. By focusing on this particular attack while ignoring the 12 attacks under the Bush administration, you are only showing your particular political bias.

    • 2 votes
    #1.153 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

    TO: John Doe-2241225 who wrote:

    "...They claim to want to avoid the "blame game" but their first move is always to find some way to direct ALL of the blame to Republicans. Usually through lying. They blame the Republicans for the budget cuts, even though more democrats voted for those cuts than Republicans..."

    Blame Republicans? All this time I thought Hillary Clinton was a Democrat.

    As for budget cuts, Republicans' whole campaign for the White House, the House and the Senate is based on "budget cuts" and it would not be possible for more Democrats to vote for budget cuts than Republicans because there are more Republicans in the House of Representatives and I think there are only 2 more Democrats than there are Republicans in the Senate.

    Oh, are you trying to say that Republicans have stopped rubber-stamping each other, because that would be another lie.

    Republicans have got to be the lyingest folks on the planet.

    Republican lies never seem to stop, and others sound like they're purely insane with their over the top, outrageous allegations.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 2 votes
    #1.154 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

    okie58, I couldn't agree more. However, I think that Barry is where they are getting the idea that if you blame it on someone else, refuse to acknowledge mistakes or short-comings and lie about it when the truth is pointed out. After all - it seems to work on the average libbie.

    Tunnel vision and denial are the cornerstones of the libbie faith. It's the only possible explanation for the adulation heapoed on Barry by his adoring supporters when confronted with his four years of failure, unkept promises and profound lies.

    • 4 votes
    #1.155 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

    TO: okie58 who wrote:

    "... what ever happened in the past should not make it okay for the dems to try and throw blame to make their illogical views ok..."

    Republicans are constantly trying to erase their past.

    Let me put it this way, hypothetically, if something like a hurricane or other act of God came along and completely and utterly destroyed your home all the way down to the basement, would that make any difference to you a year later?

    Of course if would, which is the same as Republicans spending 8 years tearing America and the American People apart and instead of rebuilding, Republicans want to pretend like nothing ever happened.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 2 votes
    #1.156 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

    Mickey-1983943 says

    No, Chuck. I think it is you who are missing the point. I said in my original post (#1.143) that the only reason people want to make this a political thing is because it is an election year.

    Nope - I saw that. Please read carefully. This whole thing is things is an example of a lack of character in Barry, and several examples of a man who is over his head and cannot meet the duties and responsibilities of his job.

    It is a political issue, but not wrong to be a political issue. You are implying either that we shouldn't be talking about it because it might hurt Barry's image (too bad, he shouldn't have lied, he should have performed his duties), or that this isn't a valid and revealing story - it is and it is.

    Because this speaks to Barry's incompetence and lack of character it becomes the very things that people should be considering when they walk into the voting booth. This is why it is fair game and a valid discussion by the voters. The fact that this idea seems to be over your head explains to me how and why you still want to support Barry. Tunnel vision and denial.

    There really are similarities between this and Watergate, and that one brought down a sitting President - except that nobody died at Watergate - and that my friend makes this not just a valid story and subject but and extremely important one.

    WAKE UP.

    • 4 votes
    #1.157 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:54 AM EDT

    @ American girl;

    It's Barry that's up for re-election, not Bush. Libbies want to discuss anything BUT Barry's four years of failures. Denial.

    If your house blows down you rebuild it and go on. You quit whining. You quit trying to assign blame - and you sure as heck stop using it as an excuse for other things going wrong that ARE in your control.

    Go on - keep whining - keep that libbie pity party going if it makes you feel better - after all, Barry's whinig seems to work pretty well on the libbie mind - the truth has become a mystery to you.

    • 5 votes
    #1.158 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

    The "Teflon" President continues to have someone or something else take the fall for him.

    Congratulations, Mrs. Clinton.....you have just been thrown under the ObamaWagon along with your husband. How do you feel when your lack of management resulted in the death of an American Ambassador and three other Americans ? Another item to add to your RESUME when you make your run in 2016.

    Yep, a Community Organizer does just that, organize then when something goes wrong and it is someone else's fault. Something is amiss here.....on yeah......LACK OF LEADERSHIP.

    American Girl-724855....Still living in a Progressive fantasy World.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Voted for Mr. Obama in 2008 ? Embarrassed yet ?

    • 5 votes
    #1.159 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

    Spot on Chuck!

    And what happened to the video? What mission to recover arms? What arms? Mission for who?

    The security team he was traveling with – two Navy Seals, one of which had made a video only days before to say he was going on a mission to recover arms from the war area


    • 3 votes
    #1.160 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

    a blame game is one thing.. admitting your failures and mistakes is another. Saying "we did everything we could" is complete denial. If we believe we did "everything we could" then we surly have learned nothing and nothing further will be done in the future to prevent attacks like this and ensure the safety and security of our embassy's and staff. The Requests for protection should not have been denied no matter whos "fault" it was. Our embassy's need better fire suppression system and safe rooms need to be "safe". Contingency plans need to be in place for this exact type of thing. How many times and how many close calls in the past and future will it take before our State Department wakes up to responsibility. Hillary says she takes "Responsibility" ok well wth are you going to do and how are you going to change? Saying "i take responsibility" at the same time saying "We did everything we could" when we all know they didnt is almost like an oxymoron mixed with a lie.

    • 4 votes
    #1.161 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

    point is if your going to "take responsibility" you have the responsibility to admit your mistakes and you have the responsibility to make the changes needed and you have the responsibility to LEARN from your mistakes. You cant say "i take responsibility" and "i did nothing wrong".

    • 2 votes
    #1.162 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

    It's embarrassing to me as an American that there are so many ignorant, uneducated Americans, both Republicans and Democrats, in this country who know next to nothing about human nature, world politics, history and "civilization" and yet want to point fingers at everyone tasked with a responsibility every time a mistake is made (In hindsight everyone has an opinion on what should have been done but no basis to validate their opinion) and react with purely emotional responses. Armchair quarterbacks. Why don't you all wise up and do something and quit blaming everyone else....you are the problem.

    • 2 votes
    #1.163 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

    @ jons;

    Are you seriously suggesting that identifying problems is wrong? If Barry made a mistake then he should have done the responsible thing. Being a man of no character however precluded him doing that - instead he did what he always does - duck, pretend it didn't happen, and when the truth comes to light blam it on someone else.

    Everybody makes mistakes - heck, just look what this nation did in 2008. People of responsibility and character admit them and then work to try and fix them - just as we as a nation should now, and get this loser out of the Oval Office..

    • 5 votes
    #1.164 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:21 PM EDT

    Jon S.-885496...."Why don't you all wise up and do something and quit blaming everyone else....you are the problem."

    Yeah Progressives....take Jon's advice: "Wise up....and quit blaming everyone else.....". You definitely are the problem.

    Responsibility and LEADERSHIP starts at THE TOP.

    • 4 votes
    #1.165 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

    For under $500,000 including salary... could have put in place systems that would have no only "prevented" the embassy from being swarmed it would have made doing so almost impossible. without making it look like a fortress..

    • 2 votes
    #1.166 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

    TO: Chuck in Olathe who wrote:

    "...It's Barry that's up for re-election, not Bush..."

    Finally, a sentence Republicans can actually remember! Anthing else, not so much.

    I have a right to voice my opinion and you have NO right to impinge on my Constitutional right to freedom of speech.

    We already have enough Republican insult comics with brains no bigger than a pea.

    It sure would be nice if Republicans took their hate speech over to Faux Noise for awhile, or did Faux close down its blogs cause it was sick and tired of all the hate speech Republicans were posting over there.

    President Obama is up for re-election, and don't forget to vote for him as well as a straight Democratic Ticket this November!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 1 vote
    #1.167 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

    @ johngis;

    I heard a congressman sitting on the committee than oversees and approved the security buget speak on this topic. He said that a general increase in budget is routinely voted down, but that specificallt targetted funds are rountinely accepted.

    Had Barry been attending the security briefings and known the security problem - or had Hllary made specific requests for security improvements - they would have been accepted.

    Barry, however, is apparently more interested in leading people to believe there are no more terrorists threats, than actually doing something about the problem.

    • 4 votes
    #1.168 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

    American Girl-724855 says

    TO: Chuck in Olathe who wrote:

    I have a right to voice my opinion and you have NO right to impinge on my Constitutional right to freedom of speech.

    and then

    It sure would be nice if Republicans took their hate speech over to Faux Noise for awhile, or did Faux close down its blogs cause it was sick and tired of all the hate speech Republicans were posting over there.

    Nobody here suggested you couldn't have your say - in fact I invited you to keep whining - nobody but you, that is. Libbies don't want to hear a differeing opinion, especially one that holds them accountable. Try putting your fingers in your ears and shouting "naynaynaynay...." That way you don't have to admit you're wrong or make stuff up.

    By the way - those immature insults do nothing positive for your arguement, and believe me, you need all the help you can get. You add nothing of substance to this discussion, just regurgitation on the crap you listen to on CNN and MSNBC and of course, the immature insults and name calling.

    • 5 votes
    #1.169 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

    Chuck in Olathe,

    "This whole thing is things is an example of a lack of character in Barry, and several examples of a man who is over his head and cannot meet the duties and responsibilities of his job."

    You can try to make it sound as "intellectual" as you like, but all you are doing is spouting Republican talking points.

    "There really are similarities between this and Watergate, and that one brought down a sitting President - except that nobody died at Watergate - and that my friend makes this not just a valid story and subject but and extremely important one."

    I think that is just nonsense. This bears no relationship at all with Watergate. Watergate was an attempt by Nixon to undermine the entire democratic process. This was a mere nothing in comparison. You are just trying to blow it all out of proportion so you can get your friend Willard "Who Am I Today" Romney into the White House.

    • 1 vote
    #1.170 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

    david-475776,

    Good post. Let's not overlook Clinton's arming of the Bosniak forces and the importation of 1,000 mujahedin into Bosnia (who would become the el-Mujahed Brigade). Many of them were former Algerian GIA and at least 3 of the 9/11 bombers served with the el-Mujahed (1992-1995). There are still enclaves in Bosnia populated by these foreign veterans and the second generation of "white-al Qaeda" that they spawned. Now we have a failing state (Bosnia) and an entity that should not be a state (Kosovo) in the middle of the tinderbox that is the Balkans. We bombed Serbia in the 1998-1999 war on the basis of faulty intel provided by the KLA. Clinton will point to the Dayton Accords as one of his accomplishments, however, he laid the groundwork for a conflagration that will rival the Caucasus.

      #1.171 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

      Let's get the facts in order...more security was requested but rejected because there was no funding. That funding was rejected by the Republicans. The way I see it, the security should have been granted then put on the shoulders of the Republicans for rejecting the funding in the first place and force them to fork over the emergency funds from their own pockets. With all the hype the far right is spewing, the Democrats should shove it in their faces by plastering billboard signs of the rejection.

      Let's see...4,000 people lost their lives on 09/11/2001 on USA soil and we all came together in UNITY. 4 people lost their lives on foreign soil where war and riots are every day way of life and all the Republicans can do is DIVIDE this country apart by placing blame.

      Dear Democrats...should a win come in November for Romney/Ryan...let's remember this so that we can give them a taste of their own medicine. Something that has long been overdue during the GWB administration.

      • 3 votes
      #1.172 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

      @ Mickey, you are on the right track - sort of - but entirely by accident. Barry is complicit in getting someone killed through inaction and incompetency while all Nixon did was try to cover up a break-in. The similarities end with the cover-up attempted by these two reprobates.

      To bad it bothers you when you hear the truth and it doesn't agree with the world as it looks through the bottom of your kool-aid glass - and to bad you can't see beyond the lies offered up by your candidate and his spin machine, too bad for you that you think referring to Romney as "Willard" somehow absolves you from being responsible for the accuracy of your opinions. Call him all the names you want - it changes nothing - and adds nothing to your "argument".

      Imagine the amount of denial and tunnel vision required to believe Barry didn't know about the attack - probably in "real time" - the amount of denial required to believe that Rice went out on her own with a fabricated story - that Barry, even though he avoided attending most security briefs, believed himself it was an attack because of that film. Imagine the lack of character involved to go to Las Vegas the next day to campaign as four Americans directly under his watch lay dead - due to his lack of insight and incompetency - and then lie his butt off about it for three weeks.

      What have you got as an answer Mickey? I haven't even mentioned Barry's four years of failed economic policies, his racially divisive campaing stategies and speeches, or the rude behavior of his VP (oh wait, never mind, you appreciate immature behavior) Go ahaead, call Romney another immature name - that'll take care of it, that will make Barry look soooo much better.

      • 4 votes
      #1.173 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

      American girl, I read comments on all sites to get a nice cross section of views. Unfortunately what I see from a high percentage of Obama supporters is name calling and insults with no real argument as to why the actions (or inactions) of our president is acceptable. As Chuck pointed out, this doesn't really help anyone to see why you think the president is doing a good job.

      • 4 votes
      #1.174 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

      Too funny, American Girl wants to voice her opinion but denies Chuck the right to his……so much for TOLERANCE!

      Those who preach tolerance, fail to see their OWN intolerance!

      • 4 votes
      #1.175 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

      FedupwithFed;

      Here's one I love -

      Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.
      William F. Buckley, Jr.

      • 4 votes
      #1.176 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

      Julie - sorry you have cystic fibrosis - we all have something we must deal with - cancer, heart disease, diabetes. Good luck with treatment, God bless.

      Please get some of your own facts straight. Charlene Lamb - during the Congressional hearings last week when directly questioned about the funding cut directly affecting the lost lives it went like this:

      “It has been suggested that budget cuts are responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Miss Lamb, You made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which lead you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?” asked said Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R., Calif.)

      “No, sir,” said Lamb.

      The libbies want to deflect blame - an Obama tactic - by trying to change the subject or blame someone else. This attempt to turn the tables is no different.

      • 3 votes
      #1.177 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

      When I went into the service, the first thing I learned is when something went wrong, there were no excuses and I had to take the blame, I was in command, even as a young LT.

      I retired a Colonel, and no matter what happened, no matter who was a fault, it fell back on me, as the commanding officer, it was my responsibility to know what, when and why my people did anything.

      My question would be this, "Who is in command", Clinton may be in charge of that department, but who is in command, that person is the one responsible, and that person is the president.

      I had LT's, Captains, and Majors, each had jobs to do, but if it went wrong, it was my fault, it was my job to stay on top of what my people did, and nothing was allowed to be done that I was not privy too.

      If Obama did in fact not know about the requests for additional security, then he was not doing his job as a commander, plain and simple, he failed to have control of his responsibilities; every aspect of the jobs of every appointed person in his administration is his responsibility.

      Like the old saying goes, "There are no excuses"!

      As for the "We did everything we could do" thing, NO, you did not, this was a security issue that involved Americans and U S property, they deserved all the protection this country could give.

      They were in a hostel land, and U S military should have been used for security, not local people, do they hire these non-U S security to protect the president.

      • 3 votes
      #1.178 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

      Jim;

      Best post of the day.

      Thanks for your service.

      • 4 votes
      #1.179 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

      Idiots.

      GOP Sucks, don't make personal attakcs.

      owencoffin, quit derailing about 9/11 please. Stay on-topic.

      Leaving many comments collapsed for derailing or grenade trolling. Let's address the issues, folks. Not other users or conspiracy theories.

      • 4 votes
      #1.180 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

      Chuck in Olathe,

      "To bad it bothers you when you hear the truth and it doesn't agree with the world as it looks through the bottom of your kool-aid glass - and to bad you can't see beyond the lies offered up by your candidate and his spin machine, too bad for you that you think referring to Romney as "Willard" somehow absolves you from being responsible for the accuracy of your opinions. Call him all the names you want - it changes nothing - and adds nothing to your "argument"."

      I think the same thing could be said of you only you can't see it. What about Romney's lies? You know, the ones you eat up so avidly as if they were truths. And it particularly upsets me to find that you do not seem to think Nixon's attempt to undermine the democratic system was any big deal. It shows how much respect you have for democracy. But of course, I guess you wouldn't think it was a big deal since Nixon was a Republican. And, by the way, what is your problem with my referring to Romney as Willard Romney? Willard is his first name, you know.

        #1.181 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

        Mickey;

        I believe I understand your problem - you're not reading with comprehension. I did not at any point even imply that what Nixon did was okay or was not "any big deal". I said it didn't compare to Obama's complicity. And it doesn't. Too bad you're "upset".

        Nowhere have I said I give Republicans a free pass. I don't. I've probably voted Democrat more than twice as often as I have Republican. The difference here is such a clear choice though, A community organizer without enough character to answer for his mistakes or even enough character to stop lying about them vs a successful business man and Governor, a religiously dedicated man whose record is one of community service.

        I know it's the libbie mantra to say being successful in business is a sin - but that's by people like Barry who don't understand business - which is why Barry was embarrassed in the 1st debate and why he is cluless on how to get us out of this mess he's helped to create.

        I didn't realize you meant "Willard" as a sign of respect. I suppose I should consider refering to Obama as "Hussein" instead of Barry - it would be more accurate.

        Here is what I DO notice. I see you keep saying "Willard Lies" without any providing any examples, as I have done. I notice you didn't have an answer about the whole train of uninterupted deception, misrepresentation and outright lies by Hussein these past weeks over this one thing - or the other examples of incompetency I mentioned. You debate like Hussein.

        • 2 votes
        #1.182 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

        Chuck in Olathe,

        "Here is what I DO notice. I see you keep saying "Willard Lies" without any providing any examples, as I have done. I notice you didn't have an answer about the whole train of uninterupted deception, misrepresentation and outright lies by Hussein these past weeks over this one thing - or the other examples of incompetency I mentioned. You debate like Hussein."

        Neither have you provided any examples of Obama's alledged lies and misconduct. You just keep accusing him of being guilty of such.

        "I know it's the libbie mantra to say being successful in business is a sin - but that's by people like Barry who don't understand business - which is why Barry was embarrassed in the 1st debate and why he is cluless on how to get us out of this mess he's helped to create."

        There is certainly nothing wrong with being successful in business as long as that success was achieved through honest means. But many people have questions about the honesty of the means by which Romney achieved his success, and there is nothing wrong with questioning that, either. I hope you are not naive enough to believe that every successful businessman is an honest businessman.

          #1.183 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

          Mickey; Thanks for proving my point about you not comprehending what you read - or maybe you're not reading - who knows.

          I'll try one more time and then you're on your own.

          Hussein told us on David Letterman that the attack was caused by the video, when he had absolute proof no later than the next day that it was a terrorist attack - a lie. He trotted Rice out to atleast 5 TV interviews with the same story, each one being a lie. We were then told by the White House this was all part of a mob attack, when on the night of the attack the Hussein had a live feed from a drone, another lie. Every time his press secretary stood before the press during briefings with the same stories - each time - it was a lie. I could go on but it's a waste of time because at the end of this you'll still be asking "What? Huh?".

          If you don't see these lies for what they are then you'll never connect the dots on the bigger picture of why this is important.

          Again, even after I asked for examples, all you have to say is "Some people have questions about Romney's honesty". What the h*** does that mean? You can't even tell me who those people are, much less why they have question. In fact, you seem unable to tell me anything except to repeat some "questions".

          Mickey - do some research - do some real reading, not just a quick listen to CNN. You don't understand any of this - and that makes you a perfect Hussein supporter, because they don't like people that understand the issues. And please, don't waste my time with more general accusations lobbed somewhat in Romney's direction. It's boring.

          • 3 votes
          #1.184 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

          Chuck in Olathe,

          "Mickey; Thanks for proving my point about you not comprehending what you read - or maybe you're not reading - who knows."

          Let's not get into exchanging personal insults now. I hope I have not insulted you.

          "Hussein told us on David Letterman that the attack was caused by the video, when he had absolute proof no later than the next day that it was a terrorist attack - a lie."

          Not a lie at all. Are you not aware that when something like this attack on the U.S. embassy occurs there is bound to be a lot of confusion as to just what happened until all the facts are sorted out? There was, in fact, a lot of rioting going on all over the Middle East at that time over this film insulting Islam so it would have been only natural to assume to begin with that that was the cause of the attack. When the facts became better known, they realized it had been a terrorist attack. You only assume Obama was lying because you don't like him. Perhaps your hero, Romney, could have spared himself a great deal of political embarrassment if he had waited until all the facts were sorted out before jumping in and shooting his big mouth off in an effort to gain political capital on this matter.

            #1.185 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:58 PM EDT

            Joel Rosenberg says: Consider, too, this story by Reuters, headlined, "U.S. officer got no reply to requests for more security in Benghazi." "A U.S. security officer twice asked his State Department superiors for more security agents for the American mission in Benghazi months before an attack that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, but he got no response. The officer, Eric Nordstrom, who was based in Tripoli until about two months before the September attack, said a State Department official, Charlene Lamb, wanted to keep the number of U.S. security personnel in Benghazi 'artificially low,' according to a memo summarizing his comments to a congressional committee that was obtained by Reuters. Nordstrom also argued for more U.S. security in Libya by citing a chronology of over 200 security incidents there from militia gunfights to bomb attacks between June 2011 and July 2012. Forty-eight of the incidents were in Benghazi."

            Consider, too, this story by Bloomberg, headlined, "Requests for More Libya Security Spurned, Issa Says." "Requests for additional security at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, before the Sept. 11 attack were rejected by the State Department because of a desire to convey 'normalization,' the Republican chairman of a House panel said today. Representative Darrell Issa of California said U.S. officials in Libya made repeated requests for additional security in the weeks before the attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. 'They repeatedly warned Washington officials of the dangerous situation' in Libya, Issa said at a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing examining the attack. 'Washington officials seemed preoccupied with the concept of normalization' after the rebellion that ousted Muammar Qaddafi."

            Charlene Lamb, the U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in charge of diplomatic security, actually had the gall to tell a Congressional committee last week that argued that our diplomats in Libya had all the security they needed. "We had the correct number of assets in Benghazi at the time of 9/11," Lamb testified. The Los Angeles Times reported that Lamb testified that "the mission had five diplomatic security agents, plus several U.S.-trained Libyan guards and members of a local militia on standby, when the attack occurred."

            How could Ms. Lamb say that under oath with a straight face? If our diplomats had had all the security they had needed, they wouldn't be dead.

            Some administration officials have been trying to suggest in recent weeks that the U.S. government didn't have the money to adequately protect our people in Libya. Some have even accused Congressional Republicans of seeking to cut funding for diplomatic security. Yet, as Politico has reported. "Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) says the State Department is sitting on $2.2 billion that should be spent on upgrading security at U.S. embassies and consulates worldwide, but the Obama administration will not spend the funds."

            What's also baffling and outrageous is the fact that President Obama has skipped 62% of his daily intelligence briefings in 2012. Consider this column in the Washington Post: "President Obama is touting his foreign policy experience on the campaign trail, but startling new statistics suggest that national security has not necessarily been the personal priority the president makes it out to be. It turns out that more than half the time, the commander in chief does not attend his daily intelligence meeting. The Government Accountability Institute, a new conservative investigative research organization, examined President Obama’s schedule from the day he took office until mid-June 2012, to see how often he attended his Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) — the meeting at which he is briefed on the most critical intelligence threats to the country. During his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times — or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent — falling to just over 38 percent. By contrast, Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting."

            Americans died in Libya because they weren't properly protected by our government, even while they were serving our government. No more spin. No more politics. The administration needs to tell the truth, the whole truth, and admit their mistakes. Even Bob Woodward of the Washington Post said he was troubled by the actions of the Obama team given the chaotic and dangerous environment in Libya at the time. He decried a "passivity" in the White House on international crises.

            • 3 votes
            #1.186 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

            Chuck

            Very good response to "Mickey" as well as the whole lot of Obama fanatics!! I made the mistake of reading a random of their postings and it is totally mind-boggling how these people have a total blank for brains and thought trains!! I saw one post that was blaming Romney avoiding the draft by going to France however, he never brought up the fact that the last Democratic President (Bill Clinton) was a draft dodger who went to Canada!! Both sides have their weak spots, but I know of no President that has hidden his past from the American People to the degree that Obama has although Bill Clinton did a pretty good job of it himself!! Bill does have a step up on Obama since his parents were provably born in this country. Obama has a mother born here but who knows about his daddy or even who his daddy actually is!!

            The downfall of a democractic country begins with the economic collapse and downsizing military; the influx of noncitizens creating a strain on benefits, and fighting among the classes within!

            All in all, I believe that if enough citizens don't start using their GOD given brains, this country is going to go down the drain if Obama gets a second term and continues to run it into the ground....We may not be able to speak our minds on blogs like this without getting shot or imprisoned.

            • 1 vote
            #1.187 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

            If you did all you could, you silly, old, wrinkled hag, then our people would not be dead. Toss Hillary out and under the bus Bozobama, if Bill will let you.

            • 1 vote
            #1.188 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:50 PM EDT

            American girl:

            Ooooh...love it when someone gets all fired up about "don't tell me I can't use my freedom of speech", and also "don't hate, but it's okay if I throw out all the venemous garbage I want to aimed at who I loathe"...yeah...you can certainly dish it out. But I doubt you can take it. There is one thing I do not understand in all of this...how can you possibly call yourself a live and let live kind of person, say that you are open-minded, but then your mind slams shut at the first indication that someone does not agree with what you say? Well, maybe I am wrong about this...you didn't say those things, but most liberals claim that is how they are. You are correct, however, on one thing...you most certainly have the right to speak your mind. That certainly does not mean that you are correct in what you say, though.

              #1.189 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:35 PM EDT
              Reply

              So Hilary is going to fall on the sword to cover for Obama. Wow. What a surprise.

              • 58 votes
              Reply#3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:18 PM EDT

              Oh you can bet that is absolutely the plan.

              • 42 votes
              #3.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:24 PM EDT

              This is what happens when you have the fox guarding the hen house....really.....they basically had the muslim brotherhood in charge of support security...that is why the four guyz were in fear for their lives...they informed the state dept. that the security was taking pictures of their embassy and detailing they're actions....so they had real-time for Osama's killing don't give me this rat-a$$ excuse that they didn't know nothing....really...that's a real hard one to believe....the lies are mounting and mainstream media is still sucking up to them.

              • 27 votes
              #3.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:32 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarGOP SucksExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Hey idiot, Mishka. What is that, Soviet? Listen up you low oxygen moron. The Ambassodor HIMSELF requested low/no security for himself. He risked his life daily but wanted to be low-key. He chose to stay at the consulate where the security was lax. The 2 security contractors who were there for his personal safety were NOT EVEN ON SITE. You and your right wing racist pals are so far off-point and so sadly misinformed. The Ambassador was a friend of the Administration. Your idiot VP candidate is the head of the House Budget Committee. They line-itemed his safety right out of the picture. They probably hoped something like this would happen. They are demons sent straight from hell. Get a grip. Idiot. Fox guarding the henhouse. More like FoxNews eating your brain. Moron.

              • 12 votes
              #3.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:51 PM EDT

              At least they have a plan for that what about jobs?

              • 5 votes
              #3.4 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:56 PM EDT

              He thinks that will save his ass, that's what Nixon thought when he screwed John Dean.

              • 8 votes
              #3.5 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:20 PM EDT

              With all the mess that goes on in this country, why should we have ambassadors in places like Libya? If these people want to fight among themselves, let them do it, as long as they're not bothering the USA. That may be selfish of me, but I feel we are now and have been for a long time too involved with other countries' problems. Insofar as feeding the hungry, we have a lot of hungry people over here. Just hope we never have a war among ourselves -- with all this bickering and blaming that goes on in this country. Let's hope Peace reigns.

              • 3 votes
              #3.6 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:29 PM EDT

              In a May 3, 2012, email on which Ambassador Stevens was copied, the State Department denied a request by a group of Special Forces assigned to protect the U.S. Embassy in Libya to continue their use of a DC-3 airplane for security operations throughout the country.

              Four days after the use of an ancient DC-3, along with other security requests, was being denied, on May 7, 2012, the State Department authorized the U.S. Embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric-vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool's new Chevrolet Volts.

                #3.7 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

                I thought the Dems loved their WOMEN! Is that translation to hiding behind their skirts? First Susan Rice, now Hilary. Is this election ever going to be over. It's time to reclaim America!

                • 9 votes
                #3.8 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:22 AM EDT

                Even better than the "save the emporer" ramblings is the "don't judge us for being failures" B.S.:

                "Rather than focusing on who to blame for the attacks, the State Department stayed "focused not on why something happened that was for the intelligence community to determine, but what was happening and could happen,” Clinton said. “We did everything we could to keep our people safe, which is my primary responsibility.”"

                Really? "focused NOT ON WHY it happened"?... Yet they issued statements condemning a YouTube video AND purchased airtime on Libya TV to have the condemnation of free speech replayed there?

                The first attempt to cover up the administration's utter incompetence by misdirection failed, so welcome to Plan B - "The sacrificial lamb" (Hillary).

                P.S.

                Wonder how all of the female Democrat sheep are feeling about now? Hillary just got shoved under the bus to protect the man pushing her... and Hillary without question is more competent than B.O.


                • 4 votes
                #3.9 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:34 AM EDT

                Thanks Gerrie... I wasn't going to post today but your post was 100% correct. Good luck ladies and gentalmen... 21 days left.

                  #3.10 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:05 AM EDT

                  As long as Debbie Wasserman Schultz is still allowed to speak on the President's behalf, I doubt the sincerity of this "apology" and that this was indeed Clinton taking one for the team. I smell a Clinton-Obama deal in which Clinton will become VP in 2014 (once the dust settles). Schultz should have been canned on a number of occasions in which she was caught fibbing.

                    #3.11 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:04 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Hillary takes one for "Team O'Blunder". Not a big Hillary fan, however, she has larger stones and more credibility than Obama.

                    • 57 votes
                    Reply#4 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:19 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarPamela McGrathvia Facebook

                    I used to respect the Clintons but not any more. She's taking one for the Obama team which means she could care less about the country. She's done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    • 40 votes
                    #4.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

                    She can now kiss 2016 or even 2020 good bye now..

                    • 25 votes
                    #4.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

                    Hillary is making a big mistake in taking the blame for Oblunder the muslim in chief. NO chance she will ever be the first female POTUS now!!!! IF she really wanted a shot she should've stayed the hell out of the Oblunder adminstration!!! Bill only sticks up for Oblunder because of his slim hope remaining to be come the first, first man.

                    • 25 votes
                    #4.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:51 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarGOP SucksExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Pamela, Miller, why are you so dumb? Are you in the South where Fox News is on basic cable? Check it out, it's only on basic cable where the really stupid people live. Do you have indoor plumbing there in dirt-floor dumb-ass ville?

                    • 6 votes
                    #4.4 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:55 PM EDT

                    She is done.

                    • 14 votes
                    #4.5 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:57 PM EDT

                    It seems that "GOP Sucks" has a problem with the truth and stoops to calling names, and he or she wonders why they are mostly ignored with a screen name like that...

                    • 20 votes
                    #4.6 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:06 PM EDT

                    GOP SUCKS I wish I knew Russian so I could call you in IDIOT in more than one language. 4 Americans dead Obama calls it a "bump in the road' Pull your head out of Obama's luggage carrier.

                    • 20 votes
                    #4.7 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:29 PM EDT

                    I totally agree...I'm not a Hilary fan either.....but OMG WHY? nooooooooo Hilary your not that stupid don't do it.....YOUR BOSS IS A IDIOT !!!!!

                    • 10 votes
                    #4.8 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

                    GOP SUCKS.....WOW....YOU ARE A IDIOT.....you can't think of anything intelligent to say so you talk crap about the south.....The GREAT people down south have more brains and class then you will ever have you spinless twit....NO I'm not from the south I'm from the Well educated West Coast thats why I know YOUR A IDIOT !!!!!!!

                    • 5 votes
                    #4.9 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:56 PM EDT

                    @Dick Scott-4404813

                    GOP сосет идиот - GOP soset idiot / Russian

                    GOPは白痴で吸う - Goppu wa hakuchi de suu / Japanese

                    GOP Sucks es un idiota - Spanish

                    Here Ya Go................ :)

                    Hey GOP!!! I'm from Ohio and you are totally clueless. I love it in the South. Great people......... In fact much better than you.

                    • 4 votes
                    #4.10 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:09 AM EDT

                    GOP,

                    I have just one question for you:

                    If the Ambassador wanted LESS security, like you so stated, how come THIRTEEN requests for MORE security poured in to the State Department -which we all know now- and were IGNORED???

                    You can tell us all day long he may not have wanted it, but clearly, someone there did, and they knew something was going to happen soon. Sorry, but I'm not buying it. And to call the calculated murder of FOUR Americans 'a speed bump' is callousness and insensitivity at its very worst. A vote for Obama is a vote for MURDER. Move 'fOrward' at your own peril. I've had all the 'Hope and Change' I can stand.

                    • 5 votes
                    #4.11 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:15 AM EDT

                    By Clinton taking blame, it also means Obama is at fault. I own a company and employ 90 people. If any of the 90 make a mistake, it's my fault. Even if my janitor f_cks up, it's my fault. And I have no problem with this philosophy. I should be held accountable for everyone. It's called leadership. This is something you libbies know nothing about.

                    • 4 votes
                    #4.12 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:27 AM EDT

                    Good post Bobster... I wish your company great success (unless your company makes kiddie porn or helps "GOP sucks" in any way)

                    21 days left people.

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.13 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

                    Howard and Bobster, VERY nice post by both.

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.14 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:18 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Ms. Clinton said this: " is my primary responsibility.”

                    Failure again.

                    • 35 votes
                    #5 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:19 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarunderemployedExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Yeah, Mario, no one with the label "Democrat" is allowed a terrorist attack. But it was okay when terrorists took out the WTC and hit the Pentagon. That was just a little blip on the radar. Anytime the terrorists succeed in killing anyone it is a tragedy. But considering how many terrorists are out there, Obama and his team have done a damn fine job in limiting the damage that they do. You would prefer another WTC?

                    • 17 votes
                    #5.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

                    Do you mean the first WTC attack, when Clinton took no retaliatory action, or the second one after Clinton ignored the warnings of his intelligence community? Oh yeah, don't forget he also passed on the opportunity to have Bin Laden given to him with a big ribbon tied around him.

                    • 45 votes
                    #5.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:27 PM EDT

                    Don`t forget the USS Cole or the embassy`s in Africa...

                    Yeah, it`s all Bush`s fault. Y`kow how pathetic that sounds nowadays underemployed?

                    And why is that, bye the way? You better off now than you were 4 years ago?

                    • 32 votes
                    #5.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:31 PM EDT

                    I see why you're 'underemployed'. The WTC was the first attack of that magnitude on American soil. Since then, our approach to security has drastically changed. Obama is responsible for the coverup in this instance, and there most definitely is one.

                    • 26 votes
                    #5.4 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:31 PM EDT

                    Agree Brian!

                    • 15 votes
                    #5.5 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

                    Srich: As I posted a few days ago on another thread, if you don't count Bosnia, Somalia, Kosovo, the first WTC attack, the USS Cole, the Oklahoma City bombing, blowing up a Chinese embassy, an asprin factory, and occasionally launching a cruise missile at Iraq..... then the Clinton administration was pretty peacful.

                    • 27 votes
                    #5.6 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:38 PM EDT

                    CNR- I love reading your posts! Always good to see you : )

                    • 10 votes
                    #5.7 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

                    Bombing is such a good way to make friends right.......

                    • 6 votes
                    #5.8 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:58 PM EDT

                    What gets me is this was our counselate in Lybia, not Switzerland. This is a country torn by civil war with an unstable Muslim population. Yes, our people needed more security: why couldn't anyone in the administration see that?

                    It's nice that other embassies and consulates are being fortified, but it's too late for 4 Americans.

                    • 15 votes
                    #5.9 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:00 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarGOP SucksExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Hey look at all the Fox newies we have here! Nice to see you all but I think it's way past bedtime for you children. Iwas just thinking about that 9 minutes after 911 where your hero GW just sat there stunned and maybe wet his pants when he realized Cheney wasn't joking that morning. Oh wow. Bummer. It is trly tragis, this Lybia thing, but let's see, hmmm, how many died? 4? And in NY on 911? Four thousand? Hmmm. Oh and right they had that pesky memo that said "Bin Laden to fly planes into tall buildings in US". Right. shut up now. than you.

                    • 7 votes
                    #5.10 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

                    Oh, quit with the 'blame Bush' crap. Your guy lied and covered up, them's the facts. Had he not lied, things would be different, however, coverup equals guilt. Sorry, you go ahead and vote for Obama, practice making excuses, you'll need them.

                    • 15 votes
                    #5.11 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:37 PM EDT

                    You are right. I would not entrust the security of my dog to Hillary Clinton. From the President on down, they need to quit lying about what happened in Libya. Its a shame that the President and Leon Panetta lied to Ambassador Stevens mother about this attack.In November vote all these clowns out. Ambassador Rice : quit opening your mouth: everything about Libya is a lie that you are spouting. Americans are not stupid.

                    • 12 votes
                    #5.12 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:39 PM EDT

                    Axelrod said yesterday on national TV that the safety was ultimately the responsibility of the president. Looks to me like more incompetent confusion.

                    • 13 votes
                    #5.13 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:56 PM EDT

                    GOP,

                    There was a memo that said "Bin Laden to fly planes into tall buildings?" Could you kindly post it somewhere where we can all see it? After all this time, this is the first I'm hearing of such a memo. But hey, let's shift attention away from BENGHAZI and the FOUR AMERICANS MURDERED to revisit 9-11 and try to create parallels between the two events that DO NOT exist.

                    For one thing, Bush had FAULTY intelligence. For the past four years, Obama has been operating with NO intelligence.

                    I guess I missed the memo.

                    • 2 votes
                    #5.14 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:23 AM EDT

                    of course it is the president's responsibilty to protect the american people where ever they go or stay. hillary is covering up for that loamkebrain obama. as has been mentioned, she is now done for the 2016 presidential election. wonder howe billy boy is gonna take it. since he made the deal with obama to come to the DNC and shoot off his big bazoo as for obama to stump for hillary. well, that is now kaput.

                    • 2 votes
                    #5.15 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:30 AM EDT

                    GOP, first, it was 7 minutes that you whiny libs keep crying about...yeah, it took 7 minutes between the time Andy Card (not Cheney, you idiot) informed of the attack in NYC and when he left...personally, I don't think that's unreasonable; to process what he was just told and then to politely exit the venue of children. Secondly, if you're going to whine about that 7 minutes, then you must condemn Obama's campaign trip to Vegas. Third, it's an estimated 3000 people who died, not 4000. Oh, and that "pesky little memo that said 'Bin Laden to fly planes into tall buildings in US...'" Well, did the memo specify which buildings, which city, which day, what time, what flight? No. If I told you that sometime in the next month, someone is going to murder someone, can I expect you to prevent the murder based on that info? No. Pull your head out of Obama's arse and think logically.

                    • 4 votes
                    #5.16 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

                    Hey GOP Sucks, how ya doin? Let me help answer that for you. You aren't doing so good, talking about republican's and their hate, you and the other completely blind ultra-libs that have been threatening all moderates and conservatives for years, name calling, divisive and just plain nasty. You sound like you are off the deep end and appear to be foaming at the mouth worse than ever. The fact that Al, Jesse, Barack, Nancy and a good lot of the leaders the Ultras now worship are so nasty and divisive it kind of makes sense.

                    What you keep spewing about WTC attack #2 (yes, #1 happened under the CLINTON administration) is a complete distortion of the facts about Bush and what he knew. There was increased chatter, there was ominous signs, but there were absolutely no specifics. Hence why DHS was formed, to hopefully bring together small bits of seemingly unimportant information into a bigger picture that may possibly result in preventing future attacks. Does it work or not is a topic of other threads. The topic of this thread is that the Obama admin, including Hilary were given specific detail about a plan of attack against USA assets in Libya. They were give multiple request for additional security by the ambassador and/or his security detail and in the hours and days following the attack, the responses from the administration (including but not limited to calling the murder of Americans "a bump in the road") with their blatant lies. Worse yet is that they continue to lie in the face of the findings released to date.

                    You and others have talked about the pictures of GWB being stunned and shocked by the news that the first plane was not an accident and that all hell was breaking loose. Well no crap he was, I certainly remember where I was when it happened, then news break-ins on the radio and how in shock I was when I called in to my unit to find out what my orders were, their honest answer was "we aren't sure yet, we can't believe this just happened". I am sure that there was a bit of that with Obama and Hilary also, and I understand it completely. That is where the difference ends. In 2001 the country's leadership became unitized, solid and lead and the administration laid out a plan and stuck to their guns for better or worse. The current administration apologized, campaigned, pandered, lied about some film when they knew DAMN good and well it was a planned attack and now they are still lying about it after the truth is out.

                    That's the difference, Nixon was impeached over watergate burgulary cover-up, Clinton was impeached over zipper-gate. Someone explain to me why Obama isn't getting impeached over Libya-Gate, the supplying of arms and comfort without the consent of congress and then followed with the blatant dieregard for the safety of our foreign service personel? Have our standards for how our elected officials are to act REALLY sunk that low?

                    If they can't behave, give em a wave. I don't care what party, send them packing.

                    • 2 votes
                    #5.17 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:27 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    I looking at Biden's comment during the recent debate and then Carney's explanation that Biden meant that the Whitehouse didn't know about what the State Dept./Intelliegnce knew...can only mean one of two things. Either the Obama administration is grossly incompetent or liars.

                    • 57 votes
                    Reply#6 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:20 PM EDT

                    BOTH!!!!

                    • 46 votes
                    #6.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

                    @Frank --- How about BOTH!

                    • 38 votes
                    #6.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

                    Frank in Sac: The answer is - both.

                    • 38 votes
                    #6.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:24 PM EDT

                    Yes, both. The fact is the middle east countries have a very different philosophy in being friendly. If they know someone is going to attack you, it is not their place to call you and let you know. They don't take sides either. We should not be giving them money or support. Let them fight it out with their own kind.

                    • 24 votes
                    #6.4 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:27 PM EDT

                    You all are correct. DZ..I should have added a third possibiity. The Obama adminstration is just plain stupid.

                    • 26 votes
                    #6.5 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

                    Obama Administration=stupid,incompetent,liars.

                    • 21 votes
                    #6.6 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:54 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarwarthog213-984171Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    So you think Romney will be any more honest, honestly thats the stupidest thing ever....

                    • 4 votes
                    #6.7 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:00 PM EDT

                    wart- Just when did this story become about "Romney"????? The stupidest thing ever is the deflecton and the denial of Obama supporters and Obama himself in this matter.

                    • 21 votes
                    #6.8 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:25 PM EDT

                    Most Americans Warthog would rather be an employed Romney supporter than an unemployed Obama supporter.

                    • 16 votes
                    #6.9 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

                    Here's Hopin Lyin Joe Biden and his boss are on the Train of Change leaving DC in January.

                    • 9 votes
                    #6.10 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:58 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    She lie's as well as her husband slick willie. He could have gotten OBL twice and wouldn't let the CIA pull the trigger, can't trust marxist to do what is right, always worried about their dictatorship and free ride off the voter's.

                    • 35 votes
                    Reply#7 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:21 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarBorninUSAExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Good grief, learn to spell, punctuate, and speak the English language. Then maybe some of us will listen to your rants, albeit CRAZY!

                    • 4 votes
                    #7.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:01 PM EDT

                    Born: Content, dearie.

                    • 4 votes
                    #7.2 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:09 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    You failed your job Hillary and you need to resign. All those people who lied about what happened when they knew what caused it is inexcusable and you're at the top of the heap of people who wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face. It was never a video it was terrorist pure and simple and thats what the people there were telling you. I would very much like to know who told people to lie and coverup the truth and I think the rest of Americans have the right to know also. I used to have a great deal of respect for you but after this, it's gone forever, you lied to the American Public.

                    • 34 votes
                    Reply#8 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

                    There is NO CREDIBILITY TO THE ENTIRE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!!! Hilliary didn't say that she asked the Secretary to the UN to Lie for 3 days on national TV...that would be Obama. He also lied in his speech to the UN, citing 6 (Six) times it was a movie trailer.

                    Why did Obama lie ? He's commander and chief of dog and pony TV shows only. UNFIT to be president of anything that matters.

                    • 13 votes
                    #8.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:50 PM EDT

                    And now today these incompetents in the White House are telling the world including the terrorists how they are going to get them. HUH? The height of incompetency is not even describable. I realize that no one in the white house is a veteran but ask the military if you give your plan out on world wide TV before striking (the word they used).

                    • 9 votes
                    #8.2 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:05 AM EDT

                    I believe Hillary did give her resignation.. She is out in November..So what does she have to lose?

                    2016 or any other election.

                    • 5 votes
                    #8.3 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:15 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    And her other responsibility seems to be verbally assaulting and showing disrespect to many of the secret service agents who work the white house detail and also using very salty language with many others as well. Too bad she doesn't take that energy and use if for something else, something more positive.

                    • 22 votes
                    Reply#9 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

                    Given the recent history of the Secret Service level of professionalism (hookers and arrests for public drunkeness) maybe somebody needs to be on their asses!

                    • 9 votes
                    #9.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:43 PM EDT

                    She's married to Bill. I think she's used to hookers and public drunkenness by now.

                    • 14 votes
                    #9.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:26 PM EDT

                    underemployed, you make a good point except that her verbal abuse began years ago, long before the recent secret service misconduct. And, she also acts this way with others as well.

                    • 5 votes
                    #9.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:57 PM EDT

                    Actually, the SS says that is the job of Michelle...to treat them like servants.

                    • 9 votes
                    #9.4 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:07 AM EDT
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                    to bad this lady cannot assign blame how many people are dead? i bet if romney were the president or a republican blame would be very fast coming. it seems that this goverment cannot get its story straight and we the people keep puuting up with lies and deceptions when does this stop. sorry for the obvious anger this is not a political vent just a moral hang in there america things are going to get worse.

                    • 20 votes
                    Reply#10 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

                    We are tired of the LIES from this Administration. In November all of you will get your pink slip. Americans of tired of this administations belief that they can LIE to us and get away with it. We Don't Get Fooled Again.

                    • 17 votes
                    #10.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:04 PM EDT

                    Barry could beat Michelle on the White House lawn, in the middle of the afternoon, in full view of a tour bus & the libs would find blame elsewhere......

                    • 22 votes
                    #10.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:19 PM EDT

                    Hey Steve, I would go to watch that little fiasco....That would be sweet.

                    • 5 votes
                    #10.3 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:17 AM EDT
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                    That's like locking the barn after the horse has been stolen. Where was the protection on 9/11, an obvious date that should have been watched more closely. Having lived in the Middle East and understanding how the Middle Easterners think, one could almost predict that date would have been dangerous for the USA.

                    • 28 votes
                    Reply#11 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

                    Well, most in our current government blatantly OVERLOOK the obvious!!!!

                    • 16 votes
                    #11.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:57 PM EDT
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                    very suspicious, the night before debate. sorry obama the buck stops with you. even if obama didnt have anything to do with security he hired clinton. either way its a blunder.

                    • 41 votes
                    Reply#12 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

                    Commander in chief....means one thing. These creeps will lie, steal, beg, borrow, to keep their one world order from crumbling down....their elitist attitudes are so sickening....and its just all to keep afloat their agenda 21....Ron Paul was right and needs to be given credit for his accuracy of what the left will do to keep their utopia going...fact: no free ride to college kiddo's the economy will never support it without taxing the hell outta the middle class....besides i paid for mine and worked up to 2 jobs doing so....most seniors have taken out way more than they ever put in to the system so quit whinning....no one over 55 would have a change in SS benefits....i'm sick of the stupid and lazy people whinning bout crap....if you have the ability to use your hands and speak you can work! In a third world country i don't think you would survive....lion meat! Read agenda 21 and see the map for yourself....hope you like the city and no mountain activities: hiking, mtn. biking, skiing since those would be off limits along with the buffer zones.

                    • 9 votes
                    #12.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:48 PM EDT

                    Yes Dave, isn't it convenient???? Wonder how many times Obama will refer to Hillarys' failure in this if he allows any blame at all to come up???

                    • 15 votes
                    #12.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:59 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarBrandon Wagnervia Facebook

                    There have been several right before or immediately after the debate moments from these criminals. Before the first debate, the Dept. of Labor (appointed by Obama) releases a favorable jobs report (wonder what statistics were left out?). Then after the poor performance in the debate, a report is released claiming a decrease in the deficit, and now this. It's amazing how there was no improvement for 3 1/2 years until right before the election! Criminals, I tell you. Any way that you look at this Hilary thing the blood of those killed at the consulate is on Obama and his administration.

                    • 15 votes
                    #12.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

                    Boot them out..

                    ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

                    • 9 votes
                    #12.4 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:19 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    It looks like Hillary is trying to take the fall for Obama before the election. But ultimately, he is responsible for this coverup. Four Americans were murdered and we have no answers.

                    • 40 votes
                    Reply#13 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

                    Harry Truman said, "The buck stops here"

                    Barack Obama says, "What buck?"

                    • 18 votes
                    #13.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:21 PM EDT

                    Romney, Ryan, the U.S. House Republicans, and others in the TGOP are trying to turning an issue of how to prevent a reoccurrence of the Benghazi tragedy into an attack on President Obama, pure and simple. The whole issue has now become a concerted TEA/GOP effort to score political points by politicizing this tragedy.

                    To take this tragedy and turn it into an attack on President Obama and a negative narrative about President Obama's foreign policy is absurd. When compared to the 1983 terrorist bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon which killed 241 Marines when Ronald Reagan was President, the Benghazi tragedy is a substantially less egregious oversight in discovering and recognizing a terrorist threat . The Democrats didn't use the Beirut disaster as an indictment of Reagan or his foreign policy at that time and I'll bet other Americans didn't either.

                    The murder of the U.S. Ambassador and the three other Americans is a terrible tragedy and the perpetrators must be brought to justice. The lessons learned should be put to use to prevent a similar tragedy in the future. The U.S. Department of State is conducting an investigation, headed by Thomas Pickering and former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mullens. This is the investigation which will give us the answers to prevent this type of tragedy in the future, not the fully politicized rants of partisans.

                    Let's please put this Benghazi act of terror in a rational perspective, free of politics. The United States has had at least 10,000 citizens(combatants & civilians) killed in terror attacks and in the 'war on terror' in the past eleven years. The battle against terror will continue and, unfortunately, it is likely there will be more tragedy as the battle continues into the future.

                    • 4 votes
                    #13.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:38 PM EDT

                    Carlson, little buddy, you conveniently ignore the lie about the video, a lie promoted and persisted in despite the facts. Now, you can bring up all and any similar events and note one tiny little difference, the lies to coverup the events. Reagan didn't run off to campaign and appear on the View and Letterman, he would have taken that phone call and would have shown a little bit of concern for the Ambassador's wherabouts, unlike your hero who couldn't be bothered.

                    • 15 votes
                    #13.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:48 PM EDT

                    The sad thing is the President lied to Ambassador Stevens mother when she went to meet Obama and Panetta. She knows the President lied to her and is still asking this administration how her son died. I listened to Mrs Stevens on a radiio talk show(AFR) the other day and all she wants is to know how her son died. She will probably never get the truth. Another sad fact, it was more than 2 weeks before the FBI arrived in Libya to do their investigation. This administration makes me want to vomit.

                    • 17 votes
                    #13.4 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:57 PM EDT

                    M Carlson

                    What video did Reagan blame on the Beirut attack ?

                    • 6 votes
                    #13.5 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:05 AM EDT

                    Mrs. C. is stupid to take the fall the night before the debate just so O can blame her tomorrow night. On Tuesday some other fool will be the fall guy. How stupid do these arrogant people think we are?

                    • 9 votes
                    #13.6 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:13 AM EDT

                    CoCo - Have you seen the Democrat base? very stupid, practically brain dead.

                    • 10 votes
                    #13.7 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:42 AM EDT

                    You are all kidding, right? Turn off Fox news, and start paying attention to the world around you. PRESIDENT Obama, in the most recent debate, rightfully took responsibility "the buck stops with me." Compare that to the list of Republican leaders who just sit there with their hands under their rear and say "nope, not gonna do anything - this way when something happens, we can blame the dems." What about the THOUSANDS of people that were kidded on 9/11 - Does Bush take responsibility? No, he just started a few wars, getting our throwing our country into tremendous debt - but hey, he got re-elected, right? Funny, Repubs can just play the blame game all day, every day, but then they accuse democrats of doing it. I guess that's what happens when you look in the mirror all day (Faux News).

                      #13.8 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:28 PM EDT
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                      Clintonistas will burn in HELL for the destruction they have done unto the USA..
                      Liar, Liar, Liars...
                      Both have aided and abetted the world against us.
                      Look up Rhoades Scholar aka Cecil...NWO it was stated that Clinton did the most for the NWO to accomplish it!
                      Ain't that grand...both benefit from the labors and in this specific case: the deaths of others and can keep a straight face on international TV...LIES LIES, Deceitful disgusting unconscionable liars..
                      Aparently all below the White House...are attempting to try to take the fall...instead of the Kenyan god-king: and he and they will take a lot more because they have taken intentionally many innnocent lives...but have no remorse due to having no conscience whatsoever.

                      • 22 votes
                      Reply#14 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

                      Really. You and your group of morons left our embassies unguarded on 9/11 what the hell were you thinking. It is time for you to go away. You are an over achiever and you failed when it counted. The last time an ambassador was killed was in the Carter administraion. The worst administraion in history until this one. Point the finger every where except back at yourself. You should resign immediately and leave Washington. You are a cancer that will not go away and your handling of this sitaution points out you do not have statesman experience. Go away and be an ambulance chaser which would be more up your alley. I feel sorry for the families of these individuals. You should be ashamed. YOU claim to be a strong intelligent woman. Please you are no better than your so-called husband the philanderer.

                      • 27 votes
                      Reply#15 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

                      Actually, the Os can't chase amublances any more be cause they no longer can practice law.

                      • 6 votes
                      #15.1 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:17 AM EDT

                      CoCo thats correct.. Wonder what they will do after they are removed? Would love to see them on

                      a chain gang.

                      • 5 votes
                      #15.2 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:24 AM EDT

                      again, if this was nixon for example, th dems and press would be doing everything as to get him out. they did during watergate, what the hell is the press doing. praising obama. chis mathews is having orgasms over obama and obama is laughing at everyone. can't wait till the debate this evening. when obama opens his big bazoo with hillary taking blame. romney is going to way lay this guy but good. I know, i would.

                      • 2 votes
                      #15.3 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:51 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      So the buck stops at the doe.

                      If only Secy of State Colin Powell had taken blame for Iraq GWB would have beat the rap!

                      • 9 votes
                      Reply#16 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

                      President Clinton's US Law H.R.4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Justification Section 2 Weapons of Mass Destruction, Section 3 US Policy Overthrow of President Hussein, that later became US Military Operation Iraqis Freedom.

                      • 3 votes
                      #16.1 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

                      He did beat the rap. Lied to the world, killed tousand of our good men and women, enjured another 100K of our people and murdered 200,000 non combatants in Iraq.

                      He is not in jail and none of his minuins are in jail but we're all still paying for it.

                        #16.2 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:04 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        What a joke. This isn't a presidency, it's a poorly written sitcom.

                        • 39 votes
                        Reply#17 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

                        Empty chair and the Clown

                        "Its Bushs fault.... its YouTube's fault....they didn't ask for security.... It's Hillarys fault"

                        Staring B.O and Joke Biden.

                        • 9 votes
                        #17.1 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:46 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        reminds me of an old country saying that goes " after they robbed the saint they installed the iron gate!"

                        • 13 votes
                        Reply#18 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

                        well if thats true fire her and hire someone who rreally cares about other people, means you will have to get someout not related to barry's bunch

                        • 16 votes
                        Reply#20 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

                        Barron, she already gave her resignation a long time ago.. She is out in November..Another reason

                        she took the fall...

                          #20.1 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:30 AM EDT
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                          It is my opinion the Bengazi affair was another Obama deal gone bad, just like the selling of guns to the cartel. Whether or not we will ever know the truth, there was a reason why the security forces were not ready. There was a reason the Ambassador was left alone, possibly for him to be killed. Perhaps he found out something he wasn't supposed to know, and the Obama administration let it happen. Perhaps, is all anyone can say, because there is no way of knowing, and probably never wil be.

                          The Ambassador was sacrificed for some reason and those that were there, the other three, were killed for a reason, and that reason is safely locked away in the White House.

                          • 20 votes
                          Reply#21 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:24 PM EDT

                          john b : Just look at what happened when Vince Foster and Ron Brown decided to testify against the Clintons. Foster mysteriously committed suicide and Ron Browns plane went down in the Balkans. Ambassador Stevens mother said she was upset that President Obama and Leon Panetta lied to her about the events in Libya. She just wants to know how her son died. Was it the blood in the picture of the compound he was at? Did he suffocate? These questions this administration are unwilling to answer. She deserves better.

                          • 6 votes
                          #21.1 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:19 AM EDT

                          Remember all the people that died "unexpectly" during the Clinton years? One even in the park?

                          • 6 votes
                          #21.2 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:24 AM EDT

                          Well, look at the coverups in Fast and Furious and Brian Terry's family. Univision Spanish TV did the expose that no American liberal media site would, and they gave names and faces to the Mexicans killed in that Obama administration fiasco. They showed the blood on the walls and the street. Benghazi is no different, lies and coverups are becoming all too common for this administration.

                          • 6 votes
                          #21.3 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:30 AM EDT

                          Vote them out..

                          ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

                          • 7 votes
                          #21.4 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:32 AM EDT

                          just read this yesterday. this comes from a guy in washington who has some inside infor. I am not saying this is true or fiction, but one has to really think if it might be true, if we talk about obama and his sleazy crap.

                          here goes: obama had it planned with the egyptain brotherhood, to hire some thugs to kidnap stevens, the word, would get out, to the news media. obama then would send people in to rescue stevens, as this would be another october surprise. the only thing that went wrong, was that al-quada did their thing and the brotherhood had lost control of the plan. hillary knew this plan. Now, as i stated, this could be just fiction, ot it could be the truth. But knowing obama, this is a who knows for sure situation.

                            #21.5 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:05 AM EDT
                            Reply

                            The Republicon con men in the House Speaker Grover Norquist controlled US House of Representatives last year cut 500 million in funds for Embassy security around the world in addition the Republicon owned private security contractor fugged up on the job, they are paid billions so why the fugged up security? Those SEALS that were killed were not active duty military seals they were vetarans they were working for the Republicon owned security company that fugged up.

                            • 6 votes
                            Reply#22 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:24 PM EDT

                            There was money available to spend on extra security in Libya. Just because money was cut does NOT mean there is still not enough in the budget. It is simple: Money was available and Clinton (Obama - whoever) did not spend it when it was requested.

                            • 18 votes
                            #22.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:27 PM EDT

                            Sorry John but I hate to inform you that your statement has no bearing at all on the lack of security at Benghazi. Here is what Charlene Lamb,the State Dept. head of Embassy security said in her testimony.

                            “It has been suggested that budget cuts are responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Miss Lamb,” said Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R., Calif.). “You made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which lead you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

                            “No, sir,” said Lamb.

                            So funding was not an issue.

                            BTW. HR2055 was passed by the House with 149 Democrats and 147 Republicas voting for it. It did not pass the Senate so the funding WAS NOT CUT!!

                            • 22 votes
                            #22.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

                            Plenty of money for the UAW though, huh John?

                            Give it up, look in the mirror and admit you`re supporting and defending failure.

                            You`ll feel better about yourself once you do.

                            • 21 votes
                            #22.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:35 PM EDT

                            For the 4 men that were brutally RAPED AND BEATEN BY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE until DEATH, they 'do nothing'. But for a 'puppet/muppet comment' they organize a demonstation? This is embarrassing time to be an American. We do not even STAND UP for our own country! No one is 'rebelling against' this attack? They 'asked for help' and were told 'no' and they are brutally murdered and then 'America does nothing'???

                            • 14 votes
                            #22.4 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

                            Barry had the Marines guarding the beaches in Barbados... just in case he needed a quick vacation

                            • 15 votes
                            #22.5 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:24 PM EDT

                            John take the pillow case off your head. They were ex-seals trying to track down 20,000 missing weapons that your current CIC lost while bombing Libya.

                            • 10 votes
                            #22.6 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

                            One day of Obama campaigning on AF1 on our tax $ would supply security for a year in Libya.

                            • 13 votes
                            #22.7 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:27 AM EDT

                            Yup.

                            • 7 votes
                            #22.8 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:31 AM EDT

                            If you loosers were listening a news station that does not have a "C" for Chicago in its name you would have heard sworn testimony that the budget cut had NOTHING to do with her decision to refuse help.

                            • 5 votes
                            #22.9 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:59 AM EDT

                            John

                            Uninformed voters like you are why we are in the mess we are in. Please wake up and actually do some research dude. Don't just run with the crap MSNBC is feeding you.

                            • 7 votes
                            #22.10 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:05 AM EDT

                            LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!! SHAME on you OBAMA, BIDEN, HILARY,MS. LAMB, AND AMBASSADOR KENNEDY, AND THOSE OF YOU WHO BUY THE BIGGEST LOAD OF CRAP TO EVER COME OUT OF A DEMOCRATIC MOUTH!! To then aid this ridiculously transparent cover up to the families of the brave MEN who died, not to mention the American people, just to get reelected?? I won't feel sorry for you when history remembers you as cowards. A disgrace to your country and your country men and woman. I am ashamed that I ever was a democrat!! This has been the biggest disgrace since NIXON. I dont care if Obama knew or NOT! He betrayed his own AMBASSADOR, and his SOLDIERS, CIA, THE STATE DEPT, Obama consider yourself FIRED by this 47%er YOU SIR, ARE NO COMMANDER AND CHIEF. NOT in my book. And for the record when we were attacked by theTERRORIST"s on 9/11 2001 PRESIDENT BUSH called it that. He may not have always been right in everything I agree, but he called a terrorist a terrorist, he didn't call them trustworthy neighbors, allies, or buddies, DUH...and he didn't call an act of war a mob riot. I for one don't like being lied to, or mislead. Oh and also for the record Hilary...did you forget who your people are...?? This is an IMPEACHABLE ACT!!! We have impeached Presidents for LESS!!! Did we forget good ol' Bill Clinton. All he did was lie to us about being a man ho. NOONE had DIED, nor did they die on HIS watch without HIS knowing about it. To all the politicians... WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF YOUR THIEVING, LYING, CHEATING, BACKSTABBING, BLAME SHIFTING BULL SH#*. ONE PLUS ONE STILL EQUALS TWO. NOT 2 TRILLION. I am going to pull an Arlen Specter and switch to Mitt Romney. Mr. Obama, and my old democratic party....Thanks for the toughest times I have ever had to face, just trying to feed my family, put gas in my car, to get to my job, now I am struggling to keep my job, oh and now I don't even know how I am going to stay warm and cook the little food I can afford. Since woodburning is all but banned, thank you E.P.A. I will be forced to pay another large bill. to another large company making more than 350million in profit. who pay how much in taxes??? zero. AND MR. OBAMA will continue to pay that under your plan. If you really wanted to tax the wealthiest americans, you tax 10 mill. and up and you would tax unearned income too. you would close the loopholes that continue to allow these thefts to continue. like all you guys being allowed to have overseas accounts and insider trading, and where else in the world and workplace do empoyees get to vote their own raises??? REALLY??? All while cutting this, robbing that, and pilfering the other thing. Thank you uninformed voters as well. NO THING is FREE!!! WHY does going green have to mean going broke??? ever wonder...??

                            • 7 votes
                            #22.11 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:21 AM EDT

                            momdabomb Great post!! True emotions usually appear when someone is angry. Nice thing is I agree with everything you say and all true statements. Too bad there are not more Americans who are not upset and believe all the Obama and Democrat BS. For the middle class means keep us down and continue top feed us BS. I am Democrat also but will not switch but you can bet you ass I will not vote for the lying fraud Obama.

                            Hillary does not want to focus on placing the blame since she is on the dime. Working all night after the attack to protect other Americans assignet to another embassy does not get it done. Should have supplied the additional security requested in Lybia before the attack. Funds were not available but Obama can fly around the country in Air Force 1 to tv shows and campaign stops.

                            Hillarys statement "tragedy should not be a political issue" is pure crap. If a Republican was in office she and the Democrats would be like vultures. It is definitely a political issue since it shows the concern the administration has for Americans serving in foreign countries. The video lie to cover up the truth from the American people was purely for political purposes. Obamas actions were an insult to the victums and his honoring they later does not erase his first lack of lack of interest.

                            Deport Dumbo (Obama) with Yellow Bird.

                            • 5 votes
                            #22.12 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:52 AM EDT

                            MomDaBomb and Tom2 - Well said. Hillary is, and has always been a lying professional politican. Just as she NOW says "nobody should take the blame" for the Benghazi debacle; she had the same approach when she said that 2 million people being slaughtered in Rwanda during her husbands reign of free sh_t to the worthless was "not genocide", and her husband "shouldn't take the blame". She is perhaps the most evil woman that has ever entered the American political arena, and I personally hope she and her entire staff of cronies and incomptants are hung out to dry in a court of law. Ask Stevens family or the families of the Navy SEALS that died protecting the USA staffers in Libya because the SD did not provide adequate security if Clinton had "done everythingl that was possible to keep our people safe".

                            • 2 votes
                            #22.13 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:28 AM EDT

                            John432 - What total drivel, and you can jam it where the grass doesn't grow. Now it's Norquist that controls Government spending and veterans that died protecting americans don't count because they weren't on active duty. Pathetic! As long as loyal little droids keep making excuses for the most inept administration since Jimmy Carter's, good people will continue to die and the nation will continue to deteriorate. Your "facts" are as runny as diarrhea from a goose, and your attempt to perpetuate the current spin of trying to blame the Libya debacle on Republicans is worthy of Air America and Daily Kos crap. Got news for you, the American people are on to the BS and it's showing at the polls. Go take your fiction to those that believe it like Hollywood, Souros inc., and the DNC. Most of us know it for what it is - CRAP! Maybe it will take Obama and Clinton being IN the next Embassy that is hit by Al Qaida to get them to start putting Americans first and motivate folks like YOU to get off the propaganda band-wagon. Of course something like that would have to happen in the next 4 weeks because come November BOTH of them will be out of jobs. You of course will probably be whining about bent chits on ballots or why illegals were'n't allowed to vote using their California ID Cards. Give me a break.

                              #22.14 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:39 AM EDT
                              Reply

                              I have a lot of faith in women but this particular one has failed at everything she does. Nothing personal Hilary but please go away and just count you money and think happy happy things. A public service message from me and I'm pretty sure that even Mr. Obummer would endorse this message.

                              • 19 votes
                              Reply#23 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:24 PM EDT

                              Maybe the Clintons can live in the gate house on the Obama estate in Hawaii.

                              • 11 votes
                              #23.1 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:31 AM EDT
                              Reply

                              You can't protect ol' Bill from skanks, what makes you think you can protect an american overseas from terrorist.

                              • 10 votes
                              Reply#24 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:25 PM EDT

                              I agree Hilary is stepping up NOW but it is a little late. People are dead because of the failure to beef up security as requested. But, what about the man who was arrested because his cheap film was blamed for the Libya attack when it was premeditated terrorists instead? He was really the "fall guy". The recognition that worthless little Utube film received was unwarranted and then did upset Muslims and caused death threats to the actress. That is inexcusable. Duck and weave - that is what the Obama admin is trying to perfect.

                              • 19 votes
                              Reply#25 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:25 PM EDT

                              Does anybody know where that filmaker is now and what is happening to him???

                              • 3 votes
                              #25.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

                              Nope, no word on the filmmaker. Interesting how the administration can go after him, especially when they needed a scapegoat. Perhaps the administration declared him a terrorist and had him detained indefinitely.

                              • 10 votes
                              #25.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

                              You could be right mygirl1. Sure would be interesting to know what is happening to him. Seems like the media has gone totally cold on this, wonder why????!!!!

                              • 10 votes
                              #25.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:57 PM EDT

                              Last I read, he was locked up in Los Angeles, on probation violation charges stemming from an internet fraud conviction.

                              • 1 vote
                              #25.4 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

                              Yes, he is in jail. I heard it had to do with the internet also...Parole violation.. He should be

                              released and NOW. More lies and trumped up charges.

                              • 2 votes
                              #25.5 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:39 AM EDT

                              Actually, the filmmaker is in prison for violating his probation.

                                #25.6 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:47 AM EDT

                                He has been arrested. The media was notified. He was cuffed, hooded and perf walked in front of the media. This is not how a parole violator with his record is usually treated. What a show! What a distraction from our failed president! What a threat to our 1st amendment rights!

                                • 6 votes
                                #25.7 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:12 AM EDT

                                Why aren't they going after the ones who paid for the making of the film ????? Supposedly the money came from rich jewish in the filming industry that gave the money for the production ????

                                  #25.8 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:42 AM EDT

                                  Who cares, who paid for the film. it is their right, just as it is the right of those that gave to Michael Moore's films.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #25.9 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:22 AM EDT

                                  Now that Hillary falls on the sword for Obama,who takes the sword for the cover up and lies?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #25.10 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:17 AM EDT

                                  What do you want, Miracles. We're lucky we got this much.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #25.11 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:31 AM EDT

                                  She may have taken the fall but ultimately, the buck stops with Pres. Obama - no more, no less

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #25.12 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:28 AM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  Hmmm. Interesting that her comments came the day before the debate.

                                  • 18 votes
                                  Reply#27 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

                                  I wondered that too....

                                  • 12 votes
                                  #27.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:27 PM EDT

                                  She took responsibility. You've just never seen how a real government works. You're probably under 30. All you've seen is Republican incompetence and denial.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #27.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:31 PM EDT

                                  No, she did not. Two weeks after the fact is not taking responsibilty. One day after the fact would have been fine. I don't think she knows what her roles are, that is, outside of starting wars. See "Clinton on Syria" for a history brief. Does your momma know you are playing on her computer?

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #27.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:39 PM EDT

                                  "She took responsibility. You've just never seen how a real government works. You're probably under 30. All you've seen is Republican incompetence and denial."

                                  Like Solyndra? ACA? The fact the government can`t even pass a freeking budget? How about Libya and a 2 week charade that looks more and more like a high level cover-up? You know they had a drone overhead, right? That`s real time footage, Marky.

                                  Marks give it up. Stop defending and supporting failure, you`ll feel much better about yourself when you do.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #27.4 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:45 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  And this the day before a critical debate, how unbelievably shocking- not! Just pathetic.

                                  • 20 votes
                                  Reply#28 - Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:26 PM EDT
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